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How do weapons for snipers

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A few weeks ago, I was able to visit a factory that produces sniper rifles and hunting rifles. Honestly, I could not even imagine how difficult it is all done, but first things first.


How do weapons for snipers


The project for the construction of a rifle factory itself arose recently in 2008, and the first product was released just two years ago in March 2011. The plant was built almost from scratch, initially in its place were premises in a monstrous state. May 15, 2010 began overhaul. The flagship of production - the ORSIS sniper rifle - is the short name for the phrase "weapons system. "But we will return to stories plant, and now let's go inside.

My path passes through the workshop, in which the trunks are processed. The blank in which the hole will be drilled and the cutting will be done is called a “blank”. Blanks are delivered to the factory from the USA.



These machines handle parts for rifles. Here, in the blanks, they first drill a hole, the width of which depends on the caliber of the future rifle. By the way, some machines were designed in the design bureau of the plant with the assistance of consultants from Switzerland and Germany.



In general, the plant has more than 30 machine tools for various purposes with numerical control (CNC). They are very different, there are simpler, for simple operations, and there are those that do really unique things, according to the technologies, which I heard about for the first time.



Barrels made of special stainless steel weapons.



Pay attention to the coin. It stands edge on the moving part of the machine, which cuts the barrel from the inside. The smoothness and accuracy of the course in this operation is so high that it does not allow the coin to fall. At the end of the post you can see the video of this process.



The same machine. Here you can see how a rod that makes cuts — the 4-6 spiral bands — comes together in a barrel form; they help to stabilize the trajectory of a bullet. The cutting is done with a special metal hook, which is also manufactured at the factory.



The tool enters the stationary workpiece and leaves a single micron depth mark on the cutter. To facilitate cutting into the barrel pours oil. The process of cutting the barrel lasts 3-5 hours. For one rifling, the tool should go inside 60-80 times. After that, the barrel is manually polished with lead-tin lapping and cleaned of oil.





After these operations, the trunk enters the laboratory.



Here, experts probe the bore of a bore-scope (a relative of the endoscope) for defects - scratches, pits or cracks. The barrel is checked several times: after drilling the hole, cutting and polishing.





Go ahead to the second shop. Another small discovery - not a drill rotates on a machine but a part! The drill slowly cuts into the stainless steel.



What kind of wood we will find out a little later.



Pig, which will soon become the main part of the bolt mechanism.





The cnc machine processes the detail of the slide mechanism, which is immediately cooled with water.





Further, this item is subject to quality control. With the help of this device (on the left) the characteristics which the part must correspond to are determined.





The general plan of the second workshop.



Further our path lies through the shop where they make a bed. It is with this same jigsaw that a piece is cut out, from which an almost finished product will be cut out on the machine.



For each model make their own box. It provides structural rigidity. For tactical rifles use a bed from aluminum, for sports - from a special weapon laminate. In addition, the factory to order makes a box of valuable wood, for example of walnut.



The machine also works on software control.





One blank of this part can cost several tens of thousands of rubles. If you carefully look at one of these bars, you can notice the 4 plywood layer or as it is called differently - wood laminate.











After processing on a milling machine, masters manually grind it, apply brand notches with a laser and impregnate it several times with oil. In one shift, the master makes the 2-3 bed.







In the workpiece is a notch for the trunk, after which it is once again covered with oil and only then varnish.



Let's go further.







Here you can see how the blanks are ground.



Next we are waiting for the painting shop.







And in the next room I was waiting for a small opening.



Here, using high-precision equipment (the cost of which amounts to tens of thousands of euros), parts for the bolt group (triggers, fuses, triggers) are cut out of metal, which could not be done with the help of other machines.



Parts are cut using electrical erosion technology. That such a thread, it can be from molybdenum or brass.



Everything happens like this: the thread from the coil is threaded through a small hole in a metal sheet or a pig, fixed from the bottom so that it can be wound onto another coil. Then this sheet is immersed in a bath of water, into which high voltage and current flows.



The thread is quickly wound on the second spool and the machine thus cuts out parts that are highly accurate to microns. This process can take 3-4 hours. Such a modernized jigsaw.



Here, too, CNC, a person only sets the program and monitors the accuracy of the operation.





Here from this disc



the excess is cut so that another part can be inserted.



And yet I was surprised that the thread can cut at an angle. Here from the middle of this cylinder is cut a detail, which is round on one side, and on the other in the form of an asterisk.



Details of the trigger mechanism.



It can be seen that several sheets were welded together to cut out the maximum number of parts.





We are leaving this shop and are heading the assembly area; this is the last stage before the rifle enters the shooting range.
In these boxes are ready-made rifles.



The specialist collects the details of the bolt group together, attaches them to the trunk, followed by the process of glass bedding. A special mastic is applied to the rifle bed, metal parts are placed in it and left for a day until completely dry. Then the parts are taken out again and given for painting, and on the bed there remains their exact impression, which allows the tree to fit into metal. This provides greater accuracy to the weapon.









After painting the parts are put together again. Specialists of the technical control department inspect the finished product and give a conclusion that the rifle is ready to fire.



At the plant there are very young workers.



Every day the plant produces up to 10 rifles per day.











In addition to rifles, Austrian Glock pistols of various calibers are assembled at the factory.











And this is a refrigerator, but in it you will not find vegetables, fruits, beer, yesterday’s dinner and other snacks. It is also used when assembling a rifle. How, you ask?



The fact is that when assembling some parts, it is necessary to fasten some details to the bed as tightly as possible. If this is done at room temperature, then the screws will crash too much into the product and may spoil it, so these parts are placed in the refrigerator for a while so that it squeezes a bit (I hope everyone remembers physics) and it could be screwed as tightly as necessary, without risk spoil the bed.



We leave the assembly shop and head to the shooting gallery. This is the final stage of checking the rifle for quality and accuracy. All weapons pass through the sighting.





You need to get a vooooon to that little point. See something? I do not) The length of the shooting range - 100 meters.



Tests of accuracy of weapons are conducted by masters of international class in shooting. The room here is small, about 2 meters on 2. We put on headphones so as not to go deaf.



High-class shooters have repeatedly won shooting competitions thanks to this rifle.





By the way, Stephen Sigal is a big fan of hunting and weapons and ordered an exclusive rifle at the Orsis plant.
photo from the site of the plant



At the factory there is a salon of weapons, where you can look after yourself with a rifle, buy spare parts for it.

























And a small video where you can see firsthand how all this is done:

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  1. Predator-74
    Predator-74 16 July 2013 08: 04
    +1
    Very cool! The pictures captivate the eye, plus article. good
    1. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. 16 July 2013 08: 10
      +3
      "The blank in which the hole will be drilled and cut is called" blank ". Blanks are supplied to the factory from USA."

      We do not have suitable steel for gun barrels? Is this production a complete tracing-paper with American technology? But, in any case, soon it will be our technology.
      1. Timeout
        Timeout 16 July 2013 08: 42
        12
        Stainless steel weapons are produced in Russia and the quality is not worse than Amersky, but the demand for it is small, in the mass production of weapons chromium-molybdenum steels are used due to higher performance properties. Factories agree to release at least 100 tons of stainless steel. But Orsis will not physically digest so much.
      2. Joker
        Joker 16 July 2013 09: 12
        +4
        We do not have suitable steel for gun barrels?

        There is, of course, I read the conversation with the ORSIS workers, there they covered this topic, so our steel makers are bullied at such prices that ORSIS has to buy steel in the US at a price much cheaper than ours.
        Is this production a complete copy from American technology?

        From and to everything generally foreign, our employees and designers are ours alone.
        But, in any case, it will soon be our technology.

        Keep your pocket wider, there has never been anything secret in technology, only here we have foreign machines, an Izhmash won the parachute on antediluvian machines, and the guys made smarter and bought everything new abroad, hence the quality is several times better, and in the production of rifles it is VERY important, it’s not AK where all the parts go (hence reliability) accuracy is needed here, but accuracy depends on the quality. In order to smother the technology, you need to grind the machines, but we have nowhere to do them, such as opening a factory for the production of Swiss machines, but only they are completely different in purpose. We have always been able and capable of making weapons, but we don’t appreciate such people here, Lobaev’s rifles, remember. A law would be passed to allow firearms in the country and such as ORSIS would have opened up to a dozen and made AKN for 5 automatic for years. And by the way, while ORSIS has the best rifles at the moment, orders have them bye bye and before 2015 they will not have 100%, about ammunition, it’s not a problem to set up production of the analogue, there would be a desire, only it isn’t there. Therefore, ORSIS relies on the civilian markets of Europe and the USA, and our hunters also buy, as the ORSIS said, there is no hope for orders from the state, so we work ourselves without looking at them.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 16 July 2013 19: 08
          0
          Lobaev failed in the transition to the series.
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 16 July 2013 20: 24
            +1
            Quote: Pimply
            Lobaev failed in the transition to the series.

            And IZhevtsev with their SV98-338M lowered ...
            the optics are especially cool, not a single sight of ours (survived).
  2. Imperial
    Imperial 16 July 2013 08: 30
    +6
    A good selection, the author sincerely smiled that the drill did not rotate belay this is a turning machine, not a drilling one, I could be wrong, but the turning method for the gun barrels the British about two hundred years ago as they began to cut, someone else there conducted experiments on heat dissipation.
    1. Timeout
      Timeout 16 July 2013 12: 14
      +2
      All technologies used in Orsis, generally accepted and know-how, do not carry themselves. Here are the materials for acquaintance, specially took a period of technology differences of 50 years.

      http://rghost.ru/47454479 Производство стволов

      http://rghost.ru/47454506 Технология производства стрелково-пушечного и артиллерийского оружия
      1. Imperial
        Imperial 16 July 2013 13: 11
        0
        Thank you, download and be sure to take a look.
        1. Timeout
          Timeout 16 July 2013 13: 16
          0
          Especially take a look at page 122 in "Making Barrels"
          1. Imperial
            Imperial 16 July 2013 18: 13
            0
            I admit honestly I’m not a pro at this, but it somehow struck me right away, I don’t know how to say it. In general, I’ll start from the end. I didn’t work as a turner, but I studied in a Soviet school, and as you know it was the CPC and working off according to work, that’s where they taught us to work on different machines ... hmm, maybe it’s nastalgia, but the time was good and the education was MULTILATERAL, it’s good to do something on your own hands, but if you know, then you think it’s possible to make butt from the mouthpiece? the material is beautiful, durable, but with size? is it possible to glue?
            1. Kir
              Kir 16 July 2013 18: 24
              +1
              They are made of glued burl, generally in optimum from walnut butt, and in general what the delta does not like (although the weight). By the way, what about drying? otherwise arrays are demanding to dry.
              1. dustycat
                dustycat 16 July 2013 21: 18
                +1
                The array just dries longer and that's it.
                There is still such drying over red-hot salt. Russian gunsmiths had salt for a long time, but there are no vacuum installations.
      2. mirag2
        mirag2 17 July 2013 16: 55
        -1
        What does this know-how have to do with it? The fact is that they USE these technologies USE-WORK using these technologies DO, and do not say that here we made the rifle from the world's best mosin barrel (1916) - and this is the best in a rifle in the world, because during the Second World War II a bunch of Germans were shot from it. Technologies should not stand still - and we should not say that we all know, and have not revealed any secrets! They must BE USED! NOW! And the more and the more faster and more accurate and with full dedication to their work, the better.
  3. Timeout
    Timeout 16 July 2013 08: 35
    +3
    Good, but limited production ... Reminds me of small western private weapons workshops. The entire cycle is sharpened for the manufacture of rifles. Giant prices prices for interchangeable barrels, sights and Glock, obtained at 200% percent than other sellers and manufacturers. And the T-5000 rifle is still good!
    1. Mister X
      Mister X 16 July 2013 21: 32
      0
      Quote: Timeout
      Good, but limited production ... Reminds me of small western private weapons workshops.

      I agree.
      Father Fedor (12 chairs) dreamed of a candle factory,
      and these gentlemen set up production in accordance with their interests
      and addictions.

      The flagship of production, the ORSIS sniper rifle, is an abbreviated name for the phrase "weapon systems".
      Author escogido7

      A small addition:
      The rifles manufactured at the Promtekhnologii GK plant are called ORSIS.
      In Latin, there is a consonant word Ursus - Bear.
      This beast has always been a symbol of Russia.
      Smart, strong and dangerous animal, the Bear is respected among hunters.
      The second source of the ORSIS name is the phrase “Weapon System”.

      Quote: GarySit
      Are there many hunters who want to buy a rifle for 100 or more kilo rubles?
      And in the West there is plenty of its good.


      At the Guns.RU forum, Uncle Jura wrote that he chose a bolt and was considering the 3 option:
      Saco 85, Manlicher or ORSIS.
      I chose ORSIS SE (Hunter), caliber 308WIN, step 11 / 5, length 22 inches, 6 dollars, without sights,
      Geracote Black graphite coating, DTK 003, Picantini-10MOA plank, box type Hunter B1, laminate.
      Цена: 89186.00 р.
      I was satisfied with my choice.

      As they say, for each product there is a merchant.
      Rest assured!
      With the help of Stephen Seagal and other VIP clients, they will promote their products and provide themselves with customers.
      for several years to come.
      1. Mister X
        Mister X 16 July 2013 21: 34
        0
        Quote: Andrey77
        The photo shows an ordinary "garage".

        The area of ​​the Moscow plant exceeds 3000 m2.
        A rather big garage.
        It produces small series of Infinity, Acura, Lexus and Gelendvagen hand-assembled.

        Quote: GarySit
        The usual private arms production, organized by a symbiosis of former shooting athletes and officials who invest in future gifts. So what is next?

        About "100 people" work in the GC "Promtekhnologii".
        That is about 100 jobs.
        So ORSIS is not only gift rifles for wealthy gentlemen,
        but also something for the working people.

        Quote: GarySit
        How long did Lobaev's Tsar Cannon and Diana-T hold out?

        I believe that a lot depends on the organizational abilities of the management team,
        from the ability to “solve issues”, “push their products” and
        bleed competitors by any means.
        Remember the enterprises of the Demidovs:
        how much time did they produce guns, mortars, fusees and supplies for them?
        And at this time, the royal enterprises were languishing.

        Quote: Andrey77
        posting a photo of machines horseradish how many years ago - the height of cynicism.


        This is still not the IzhMashevsky machines of the 1916 model year, as described above, but more modern.
        We would have to criticize someone to smithereens.
        How much was said and written: industry was destroyed and squandered.
        And in this case, there were people who from scratch solved all organizational issues and set up production.
        It’s worth it!
        So no.
        They bought the wrong machines.
        Not there they buy metal.
        Wrong people set up production.
        In general, everything is not right and wrong, so let's mix it all up with the earth.
        And then we will wait for the right people to come,
        they will buy the right machines and will buy the right metal.
  4. Igor39
    Igor39 16 July 2013 08: 48
    +1
    Rogozin built a good factory for himself, takes care of the army with words, but makes grandmothers for himself.
    1. Joker
      Joker 16 July 2013 09: 17
      +3
      It is not good to envy other people, besides, he is not engaged in baryzhevism. As for me, this is a great business, there would be more such businessmen in Russia, you see, and the GDP would grow and we would not buy American products.
  5. mirag2
    mirag2 16 July 2013 09: 01
    +3
    We don’t have such steel — or are people cretins? Why, then, do they buy steel there? Maybe they are friends of Navalny and help states in their own way?
    "Good, but limited production ..." Yes, limited, because
    60 years old from IZHMASH, who are snickering at state orders and state support of fat-assed ranks, have the audacity to produce SV-98 on 1916 machines and demand a price of 120-000 rubles per barrel.
    I wonder how much such a rifle would cost, if suddenly the sky fell to the ground, smashed to smithereens and made such a trunk on IZHMASH? One and a half million! No less! And they would yell that this is a prototype, but in order to put such rifles into the army, every year you need to inject 3 billion, and then they would not do a damn, and they would say that there is not enough money.
    1. Joker
      Joker 16 July 2013 09: 19
      +6
      We don’t have such steel — or are people cretins? Why, then, do they buy steel there? Maybe they are friends of Navalny and help states in their own way?

      We have steel, the prices are only higher than the US prices and are sold only in large quantities. You want to live, be able to spin because of the greed of industrialists give money to the United States, but as always.
      1. Timeout
        Timeout 16 July 2013 12: 18
        0
        Our steel is cheaper than imported, here is the material for comparison (not advertising) http://www.avers-steel.ru/prices/cena_krug.html Everything is described specifically, an analogue of Amersky steel 417R - 20X13.
        1. Timeout
          Timeout 16 July 2013 12: 35
          0
          Sorry, 416R steel.
      2. dustycat
        dustycat 16 July 2013 21: 32
        0
        This is not the greed of the industrialists.
        Just electric arc furnaces in the USSR did not make small volumes.
        From 100t and more.
        And 100t is enough for this plant for a year. And even more.
        In order to withstand the composition of the steel, it is necessary to perform at least three heats in one crucible after its manufacture. Well, where else 200 tons of not quite that began to put?
        Well, the cost of handmade crucibles from imported chemicals and sand (after the destruction of the factory in GusHrustalnoye, only natural was left from the domestic ones, but it’s not quite right) add a price.
        And with small-tonnage induction even funnier. They simply are no longer produced in Russia (there is a plant in Minsk, they were in Gomel and Kharkov). The price is added by customs. A 400 kg furnace turns gold and pays off only with three-shift operation and the same problem with crucibles.
        But again, 400kg for this plant is in excess and where to put 2 defective and 6 more before the crucible burnout?
        And our factories do not have subsidies for employment and high-tech.
        1. bootlegger
          bootlegger 16 July 2013 23: 50
          0
          If we count only on the trunks, then based on its approximate weight of 2-2,5 kg. the plant will need 10 (units per day) x (365 days a year) x (2,5 kg trunk weight) = 9125 kg of blanks per year. Excluding holidays and weekends.
        2. m262
          m262 17 July 2013 00: 01
          +1
          I answer as a specialist in the field of:
          1. Arc furnaces come in different capacities, for example, at MTZ from 3 to 12 tons, at BMZ from 50 to 100;
          2. The chemical composition of steel depends little on the crucible, more on the charge and qualification of the smelter (we have both);
          3. I’ll probably tell someone military secrets bully but the crucible is made of pulverized quartz (marshallite), Gomel sand (who understands the topic), boric acid and water, what is the strain in Russia with sand or water? wassat ;
          3. The crucible has at least 12 heats for the IST04 furnace, for arcs it has dozens of heats, so that the cost of the crucible is greatly increased;
          4. After melting the stainless steel, you can melt anything on the same furnace!
          5. The price of steel mainly consists of the price of alloying materials + energy, the rest is nonsense, miserable interest!
          6. Induction furnace with a capacity of 400 to 700 kg. simple as 5 kopecks and developed in 1946, what nafig hi-tech?
          It's just that with our rollback system it's easier to buy steel in the USA!
          1. Kir
            Kir 17 July 2013 01: 01
            0
            So, if only steel had a problem in shipping in such batches, it just seems to those who work in the sales department and the owners would like to immediately clear off a certain amount, so that they can scratch their belly until the next time they are shipped, and you need to twirl with small ones.
      3. mirag2
        mirag2 17 July 2013 16: 57
        0
        They don’t pour such steel grade. And there is nothing to do with it. We never have a demand for such steel. And only for the sake of ORSIS they will not launch it into production, the volume is small. What are you, just like children.
    2. Timeout
      Timeout 16 July 2013 09: 24
      +3
      For Mirage2
      Dear, do you know how to read? Is there a difference, a ton or 100 tons? There is such a thing as saving, it’s cheaper to buy 100 forms from amers than 100 tons in Russia! I’ve been doing weapons for almost 15 years, and I’ve learned enough about brands of weapons steel. And do not forget that the SV-98 is a mass weapon, and not a dozen trunks were produced per month. Especially Izhmash and bureaucrats is a completely separate conversation. You are not surprised at the cost of the T-5000? Its production cost is not more than 40000 rubles, if you calculate the cost of materials and all man and machine hours. You just have to be objective!
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 17 July 2013 17: 02
        0
        And why is such a massive weapon interesting? What would you give at least something to your hands? And for some reason, people who should use the SV-98 only use it as a last resort. It’s because of the lowest quality of manufacturing. bad at hand! Why are all sorts of Austrian, Finnish, English rifles purchased? What do you think? Why?
        1. Kir
          Kir 17 July 2013 19: 04
          0
          Is kickbacks and stuff like that? Moreover, it seems that purchases are mainly made at the time of the beloved stool, so everyone thinks there is more.
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  6. leonardo_1971
    leonardo_1971 16 July 2013 09: 42
    +5
    I would like to try to shoot from this rifle! but the prices seem to be prohibitive. I cannot afford the pensioner of the special forces.
    1. Timeout
      Timeout 16 July 2013 10: 04
      +1
      T-5000 costs from 180000 rubles, depending on the caliber and coverage, and this is without a sight.
  7. Garysit
    Garysit 16 July 2013 10: 24
    +4
    The author of the article has never before seen the production of weapons from here and puppy delight from the technologies of 20 years or more ago, especially deep drilling, etc. A typical private arms production, organized by a symbiosis of former shooting athletes and officials investing in future gifts. So? How long did Lobaev's Tsar Cannon and Diana-T last? Are there many hunters who want to buy a rifle for themselves for 100 kilo rubles or more? And in the West, there is enough of their own good. Just business, nothing personal !!!
    1. Timeout
      Timeout 16 July 2013 12: 21
      0
      Again, business for the state (taxpayer) account!
    2. Andrey77
      Andrey77 16 July 2013 13: 35
      +2
      I agree. The author not only did not discover America, but to post photos of horseradish machines how many years ago is the height of cynicism.
    3. dustycat
      dustycat 16 July 2013 21: 34
      0
      1940s technology if that.
    4. mirag2
      mirag2 17 July 2013 17: 16
      0
      The fact of the matter is that it turns out that many "hunters" acquire rifles for their work for 100 or more kilo rubles. Look at the well-known kardena on the Internet, and so he says that the SV-98 will lie in his safe all his life. but there is the Finnish Sako TRG22. Why did the state spend 150 rubles - to keep it in the safe - the people who made it received money FOR ANYTHING. That's the point. Why protect it? Or in this way with To fight unemployment in Izhevsk? Everyone should do their job efficiently, try their best. I do exactly that, and I think that EVERYONE should do this. I made rubbish, NO money to you. Especially state ones.
  8. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 16 July 2013 12: 14
    +1
    All this is very beautiful. Question. Here we have machining centers of unprecedented precision. Well, when will we stop toil with Western norms and start doing things based on Baryshev's "mechanical laser"? The complex surfaces of his bolt group are no longer a problem, are they? Having increased survivability on the basis of the latest technologies, what prevents us from obtaining automatic rifles that have not yet been produced anywhere in the world?
    1. Timeout
      Timeout 16 July 2013 12: 28
      +2
      As long as our arms dealers (and dealers in general) are oriented to the west, everything will remain so. An article about the destroyed enterprises was recently published at the military academy, and among these enterprises there is a factory that produced CNC machines with characteristics that are 2 times higher than Western ones. The technologies were sold in good faith to the west and are patented there. And now we are sucking a finger, since we can no longer use them without the knowledge of the same west. And it turns out we need to buy our technology back ...
      1. nekromonger
        nekromonger 16 July 2013 14: 52
        +2
        this article was sucked out of your finger, you can’t even imagine how much we lagged behind then, and even more so now in machine tool building. Since the 80s, we have had German, Japanese, Swiss, and all complex high-precision machine tools in this industry. Do not listen to anyone, in this industry we are far behind than in the automotive, for example.
        1. Timeout
          Timeout 16 July 2013 16: 02
          +2
          In which? Armory? Or machine tool? Just when he was a pettechnic, he went through internship at a military ship repair plant. And I watched there a Soviet-made universal CNC milling and milling machine that was even sharpened programmatically for the manufacture of parts of ship automatic machines, and that was 1986. Later, after almost ten years, I saw almost the same Austrian-made machine, the difference was only in the size of the automation cabinet!
        2. Kir
          Kir 16 July 2013 17: 54
          0
          Most often they lagged behind in the embodiment in the material and not in the design idea, and as a result, the equipment of others, plus or rather minus, we can make a small series that has no analogues in novelty and quality, or rather piecewise, but when it comes to the mass here ... ...., their (gimmicks) gain only in the fact that everything is calculated on the fact that any more or less armless can make a decent quality, and we have to correct some of the shortcomings of high-class masters due to experience and skill, I read a mistake in the drawings (unfasten the sleeve from VK6M).
          With regards to the same article, it’s incomprehensible toli that the author set out for people who don’t know anything, or he himself was still special in technique.
          1. dustycat
            dustycat 16 July 2013 21: 49
            0
            Kuzmashzavod in Novokuznetsk from which the "Mining Tool" LLC remained.
            In the Second World War, it was redone from workshops for a weaving factory under an arms factory.
            Not a single imported one (a machine manufactured in the GDR is not considered to be imported - a gearbox with a strapping made from electricians and electronics produced in the GDR by the Ivanovo Autoway Plant). The galvanic workshop is rabaraholin.
            Unfortunately 70% is given by the time and the lack of heating in the trash "effective managers". The instrumental is generally turned into a supermarket in the most impassable place.
            In metal in machine tool industry they did not lag behind.
            As for the poor mass production - come on, let's end everything at the end of the date.
            But. The uniformity and high quality of the holes in the cutting tool is achieved on the machine on which the weapons were made.
        3. dustycat
          dustycat 16 July 2013 21: 39
          0
          The lag in machine tools began in the 1990s.
          When all machine tool industry was covered with a copper basin.
          As for imported machines - tell the Japanese.
          They suffered a lot because the Red Proletariat closed - the beds of their machines and equipment were made there.
          1. Kir
            Kir 16 July 2013 21: 48
            0
            Do you mean the KP in the Shabolovka area, which then smoothly moved to the Kaluga region on the 2nd site? So we also Stankolit together with Sergo rattled type of harmful production.
        4. Andrey77
          Andrey77 16 July 2013 21: 51
          +1
          I agree completely. Mechanical engineer himself, setting up machines. And who put you a minus? In machine tools and engines, we were 50 years behind in the USSR. In this area, URA patriots are better off hiding.
  9. Sashko07
    Sashko07 16 July 2013 13: 24
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    I began to look at the photographs without having read the full beginning - I thought that the plant was somewhere in the USA, then it dawned that the Russian, well done, IZhevsk plant would have raised it to such a level.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 16 July 2013 13: 39
      +2
      Are you kidding me? I understand that IZHMASH is in a deep ass, but it is necessary to acquire modern machines, and not those in the photo. The photo shows an ordinary "garage". Yes, the products are better than on IzhMash! And this is an accusation against the state defense enterprise!
      1. max702
        max702 16 July 2013 23: 56
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        I agree! as I saw JET (balmy Chinese) ahrenel !!! and this is hi-tech super duper production ... what if people really give good equipment?
        pc; why on the equipment about which they say with aspiration "several tens of thousands of dollars" they put an experienced worker with considerable work experience, and in the army for a unit for several hundred or even millions of dollars of a green 18-year-old youth ... a paradox what
    2. SIT
      SIT 16 July 2013 16: 24
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      Quote: Sashko07
      still the Izhevsk plant would be raised to such a level.

      Making mass weapons with such rifling technology is impossible. For army weapons, it was abandoned in the middle of the 20th century and switched to poisson or forging on a mandrel. There, the productivity of hundreds of trunks per day.
      1. dustycat
        dustycat 16 July 2013 21: 51
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        Drawing machines in the 19th century actually appeared.
  10. Wiruz
    Wiruz 16 July 2013 17: 47
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    ORSIS T-5000 - THING !!! I didn’t shoot myself, but I heard a lot. God grant that I accepted it into service.
  11. Wiruz
    Wiruz 16 July 2013 17: 50
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    I hope ORSIS with its T-5000 will not be squeezed out of Russia as, at one time, the Tsar Cannon was squeezed out from its SVL.
    1. Imperial
      Imperial 16 July 2013 17: 57
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      Well, there, as far as I remember, Rogozin Jr., so ...
    2. Kir
      Kir 17 July 2013 00: 48
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      It is impossible to squeeze out what is dead born, look at a review about them (if I don’t confuse it on some kind of hunting one), so there either the author of the article is a complete stump or the "specialists" were still there.
  12. valokordin
    valokordin 16 July 2013 18: 38
    +3
    In the USSR there were more abruptly machine tools than these, these imperious thugs destroyed the domestic machine-tool industry, nothing remained. Recently I saw in the workshop 1-K-62, 63 years old, and this miracle lathe works without repair.
    1. nekromonger
      nekromonger 16 July 2013 22: 48
      -2
      and makes crooked details ...
      1. Kir
        Kir 17 July 2013 00: 51
        +1
        And they did not try to debug, or maybe the problems are not in the machines, but in the "big specialists".
  13. neznayka
    neznayka 16 July 2013 19: 04
    +2
    Of course, I thank the author for the efforts, but ... There is nothing new in the information, and especially in the technical plan. The article is another attempt to promote ORSIS. No, he is certainly the best that we have at the moment, but not so much to say
    High-class shooters have repeatedly won shooting competitions thanks to this rifle
    -Enlighten what? A rifle is a week old, and it has already "won everything that is possible" well, just like a Strizh pistol - no one was holding it in their hands, but bl.t is the best in the world (according to Rogozin). About Segal generally smiled - well, since HE ordered, then yes, buy urgently and for everyone.
    PS For those who like to scream (especially when idle) they had experience using the T-5000 in .338 caliber, although it is very modest, a test shooting was organized at the competitions in Abinsk in 2011. It’s a good rifle, but nothing more than natural, especially considering that there is nothing ours in it.
  14. Fastblast
    Fastblast 16 July 2013 19: 10
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    Class!
    Thanks for the photo story!
  15. Des10
    Des10 16 July 2013 20: 06
    +1
    Figured wire cutting - surprised, but:
    "Another small discovery - it is not the drill but the part that rotates on the machine! The drill slowly cuts into the stainless steel."
    Did the author not see a conventional lathe? laughing
    To evaluate a rifle, data from comparative tests with analogues are needed, and so is advertising.
    1. max702
      max702 17 July 2013 00: 02
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      Wire cutting, plant "ChMZ" 80s machine "BOSH" workshop number 12 of repair and metalworking, nothing special, though at the end of 90 they forgot how to set up and the whole machine died ...
  16. PSih2097
    PSih2097 16 July 2013 20: 30
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    As I already said, there is nothing fundamentally new, we are waiting for a sniper house from our defense or at least a miniature power source (the size of a Crona) in a couple of megawatts ...
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 16 July 2013 21: 53
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      Are you talking about AMP ammunition?
  17. atesterev
    atesterev 16 July 2013 20: 54
    +2
    And the machines are adversary! Yes, and they deliver the blanks from there ... Some regular KOKOM (a well-known abbreviation for the older generation) will prohibit the import of spare parts, tools and blanks, and krantets to the Orsis ... This is not good !!!
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  19. JackTheRipper
    JackTheRipper 16 July 2013 21: 43
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    I also liked the article. Yes, and once again I was convinced that we need all the same in those areas in which we now began to lose in some areas, copy from foreigners all the best that they have, transferring all this to ours "soil".
    Yes, "SVD" was good for its time, but now there are already better samples, unfortunately ...
    The same applies to the "PM", which had to be changed the day before yesterday for a more modern version of the pistol, at least the same copy of the "Glock"
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 16 July 2013 21: 57
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      America was not discovered. But for this, it is necessary to build a new arms factory. And our warehouses are filled with old "Kalash" for 200 years.
      1. m262
        m262 17 July 2013 00: 19
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        Amers say when they "soaked" Bin Laden, did they find only AKS and PM-money for Glock and M4?
  20. PValery53
    PValery53 17 July 2013 00: 12
    +1
    Private, leisurely high-quality production with a well-thought-out technical process gives high quality, but at a very expensive price. About electro-erosion machines. I have been repairing electronics from this "miracle of technology" (periodically) for 12 years, so these machines are not at all the squeak of modern technical thought. The developed "device" ORSIS-5000 looks very impressive and, God forbid, to shoot accurately in skillful hands. And the Russian machine-tool industry was ruined by the perestroika, as if it were their main goal. It is easy to bankrupt, but it is not so easy to revive "the basis of our prosperity" anew, even if we have skimmed off the main perestroika.
    1. Kir
      Kir 17 July 2013 01: 06
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      And by the way, what kind of purity the electro-erosion gives at the output, the laser I know gave the 12th class of purity.
    2. Andrey77
      Andrey77 20 July 2013 12: 17
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      I must disappoint, in the machines we were 15 years behind the world companies. I serve our, German, Italian and a couple of American. The gap was somewhere in the 50-60s. years. What are perestroika in the 60s? By the arrival of Gorbach, the gap was ALREADY FIRST. Blame Brezhnev’s grandfather.
      1. Kir
        Kir 20 July 2013 14: 58
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        I wouldn’t touch Leonid Brezhnev. But part of the directors of machine-tool construction and not only productions should be remembered here with a kind word. When you write about the backlog, what did you see and know all the developments that did not go? I have at least (maybe so lucky) on the one hand dyak famous person in the furniture was! so they created lines and stuff, but they were deliberately spoiled, for what? yes that prices would not fall at least !!! The Kingdom of Heaven father visited closed exhibitions (the department belonged to the ministry), he also saw machines that had no analogues at that time, so ....
        1. Andrey77
          Andrey77 21 July 2013 12: 51
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          I have not seen the development. I am now setting up (with a mat and a file) our machines. And in German I just change a penny part (for some reason, this part is not cheap in our machines). Show me our designs. Here we had developments, but for some reason no one saw them. Special machines for working in near-Earth space?
  21. ko88
    ko88 13 September 2013 12: 27
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    I wonder when we will have new rifles in our troops instead of the SVD?