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What is the USA number XXUMX in the world?

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1. US private prisons, like commercial projects, need free labor (slaves). The justice system does not deny them this. Prison sentences and total prisoners. US population 5% of the total population of the planet and at the same time a quarter of all prisoners in the world are Americans. There are 2,3 million people in US prisons (1,6 million in China) - i.e. every hundredth adult citizen of the USA is sitting.


2. The number of car thefts
What is the USA number XXUMX in the world?


3. The number of obese people


4. The amount of sweet carbonated water consumed per person 1. On average, every American sucks about 0,5l soda per day


5. Fast Food Production In 2000, US consumers spent about $ 110 billion on fast food, while 1970 spent just 6 billion.

6. 28 hours - the time that the average American spends on watching TV per week. Here, the first place the United States so far shares with Britain. There is much to strive for.

7. The volume of credit card fraud 27% of the total amount of stolen money from credit cards in the world accounted for the United States. $ 3,56 billion for 2010 year.

8. The number of bachelors and singles 26% of the total number of households in the United States are represented by only one person

9. The percentage of 4,95 divorces for 1000 people, but if you bring the statistics to the number of marriages, then Belgium will be in the first place - almost 60% of divorces for 100 weddings.

10. Number of teenage pregnancies Percentage of pregnant women younger than 20 years.


11. Child Mortality Rate due to Abuse Over the past 10 years, American fathers and mothers have killed more than 20 thousands of their children. Of the total number of dead children, 75% did not live to four years, and almost half to 1. According to this indicator, the US overtakes Canada in 3 times, Italy in 11 times.

12. The number of lawyers per capita. In total, 1,1 million lawyers work in the country, i.e. per lawyer accounts for 256 Americans (for example, in France per lawyer accounts for 1 403 people). The ratio of lawyers to prisoners - 1: 2!

13. Leaders in the production of pornographic products. 89% of all pornography in the world is made in the USA.

14. Americans most often in the world drink drugs with or without reason. Drug abusers are about 36 million Americans. 200 000 US citizens die from pharmaceuticals every year.

15. The most expensive prescription drugs in the world. On average, Americans overpay for 50% drugs compared to the rest of the world.

16. Leaders in eating antidepressants. More than 20% of all American adults take at least one drug for mental or behavioral disorders. The Court of Auditors has published shocking data - about one third of all adopted children in the United States are taking at least one psychotropic drug. Children in the United States take antidepressants three times more often than in Europe. The total number of Americans taking antidepressants doubled between the 1996 and 2005 years.

17. Leaders in the number of people with mental disorders. Every fifth adult has mental disabilities

18. The largest amount of credit card debt. On average, every American has a 4 credit card. Every seventh American has 10 and more credit cards. In March, 2011, total credit card debt was $ 785 billion.


19. The world's largest mortgage debt.


20. The total student debt to pay for education tends to $ 1 trillion.

21. Americans use the services of plastic surgeons more often than anyone else.

22. The largest number of deaths from eating disorders occurs in America.


23. According to nationmaster.com, the largest number of crimes in the world is recorded in the United States. Almost 12 million crimes per year. In the second and third place are Britain and Germany - on 6,5 million crimes a year.

24. The first country in the world in the number of idiotic laws

25. US presidential candidates plan to spend a record 2012 billion dollars for election campaigns in 11 (in Russia, candidates spent less than 50 million dollars in the last presidential election in Russia).

26. Year after year, the United States has the world's largest trade deficit - 558 billion dollars in 2011.

27. Americans make up 5% of the global population while consuming 30% of resources mined on Earth.

28. 30% of all garbage produced on the planet is in the USA

29. In 2003, the United States accounted for 68% of all land occupied by GM plants.

30. Half the psychoanalysts of the whole world are Americans (no one to talk to?)

31. The United States has the largest public debt of all times and peoples - more than 15 trillion. dollars ...

32. ... but at the same time spends on the military more than the next 12 countries combined ...

33. ... and has the largest number of military bases. There are more than a thousand of them all over the world.
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  1. Alexei
    Alexei 16 July 2013 05: 53
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    Statistics is a stubborn thing, but what I'm sure of is that the states are the first in the world to falsify facts. Masters so to speak.
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 16 July 2013 06: 26
      14
      The author, but say what I wanted?
      1. Alexei
        Alexei 16 July 2013 06: 47
        +9
        Quote: bomg.77
        The author, but say what I wanted?

        There are a lot of different statistics, but checking in real life at least one half of life is not enough. Because so many facts are not made public for the purpose you yourself know which one. It seemed like a crime, but why spoil the statistics? (for example) That's what I wanted to say.
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 16 July 2013 07: 09
          +3
          Quote: Alexej
          Here is what I wanted to say.
          Spreading the statistics, in the end it was necessary to make a life-affirming conclusion that America is here and soon it will end, it would be more fun winked
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 16 July 2013 08: 39
            14
            Quote: bomg.77
            Spreading the statistics, in the end it was necessary to make a life-affirming conclusion that America is here and soon it will end, it would be more fun

            - But why, like children, do everything. I read, I myself made conclusions laughing In many calculations, I previously read that the States in the first place, in other calculations - requires verification, but for now I will take it on faith, there are completely subjective points, such as the first place according to idiotic laws, this still needs to be checked, and secondly, that is there an idiotic law? What is the criterion?
            But on the whole, according to the SABJ, such a bias that affects the whole world, especially with 5% of the population consuming 30% of the world's resources, cannot exist for a long time. This conclusion suggests itself. The main thing is that with such frantic consumption, this nation manages to be the most miserable on the planet laughing And the corresponding processes will certainly be.
            Py.Sy. So I post it and think, and if the amer asks a question in response, like, "Ok, I admit the imbalance, but what about 1,5% of the world's population, which has 45% of all the planet's wealth, including energy, mineral resources and other mineral resources and wealth of all the wealth in the future - fresh water? Is this also a skew? " I don’t know how to answer this question. smile
            1. bomg.77
              bomg.77 16 July 2013 08: 50
              +3
              Quote: aksakal
              Py.Sy. So I post it and think, and if the amer asks a question in response, like, "Ok, I admit the imbalance, but what about 1,5% of the world's population, which has 45% of all the planet's wealth, including energy, mineral resources and other mineral resources and wealth of all the wealth in the future - fresh water? Is this also a skew? " I don’t know how to answer this question.
              That again about the Jews. laughing
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 16 July 2013 16: 20
                +1
                Quote: bomg.77
                That again about the Jews

                - beautiful translation on that guy laughing
            2. Trapperxnumx
              Trapperxnumx 16 July 2013 09: 36
              +5
              Quote: aksakal
              and secondly, what is idiotic law? What is the criterion?

              For example.
              In the city of Mobile, men are forbidden to howl like a wolf in public.
              In the same city, women are forbidden to wear stilettos.
              In the city of Los Angeles, it is forbidden to lick frogs.
              In the state of Michigan it is forbidden to throw octopuses in public places.
              In the states of New Jersey and Oregon, people cannot independently fill gasoline in a gas tank - a gas station employee should help them.

              And many others...
              1. itkul
                itkul 16 July 2013 11: 23
                +5
                Quote: Trapper7
                In the city of Mobile, men are forbidden to howl like a wolf in public.
                In the same city, women are forbidden to wear stilettos.


                I had a chance to visit this Mobile seven years ago, so the buses there mainly carry children and the elderly. All the rest travel by personal cars, a used car in the states costs almost a penny, as I remember now an eight-year-old BMW was selling for 2500 us, practically looking new, because they don’t have winters like ours. The question is, how do you imagine a woman on stilettos driving a car
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 16 July 2013 14: 08
                  +1
                  Quote: itkul
                  The question is, how do you imagine a woman on stilettos driving a car

                  Do not hesitate how they manage, and better than some men!
                  1. Karabu
                    Karabu 16 July 2013 19: 31
                    +2
                    Quote: bomg.77
                    America is here and soon it will be fun, it would be more fun

                    Are you aware that the USA has been persistently collecting the best "brains" around the world for the last 10 years? Have you heard about the green card program in the second tier countries? For example: according to this program, 50 young and promising people leave Russia every year, and believe me, the best! since there are many more who want to get a green card. so that I strongly doubt the imminent death of America
                    1. bomg.77
                      bomg.77 17 July 2013 05: 33
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                      Quote: Karabu
                      Quote: bomg.77
                      America is here and soon it will be fun, it would be more fun

                      Are you aware that the USA has been persistently collecting the best "brains" around the world for the last 10 years? Have you heard about the green card program in the second tier countries? For example: according to this program, 50 young and promising people leave Russia every year, and believe me, the best! since there are many more who want to get a green card. so that I strongly doubt the imminent death of America
                      In my koment you did not notice sarcasm? Or prefer to see what you want?
              2. SASCHAmIXEEW
                SASCHAmIXEEW 16 July 2013 15: 30
                +1
                Very reasonable and relevant laws !!!
              3. kavad
                kavad 18 July 2013 15: 10
                0
                In the state of Michigan it is forbidden to throw octopuses in public places.

                This is because in the 50s and 60s it was fashionable to come to the match and, instead of booing, throw the octopus on the field.
            3. AVV
              AVV 16 July 2013 09: 40
              +4
              And what mineral wealth ??? Besides water? And that one is in Alaska! There is no oil, they are going to drive shale gas for export, laughter and nothing more! Atomic energy is breathing in the air! Poison chicken !!! All genome-modified agriculture! Therefore, they are waging all wars for resources !!! And the printing press does not stop, the dollars print the main wealth, unsecured toilet paper and resources are being bought all over the world for it! But it can’t go on so endlessly that the whole world is for idiots they’re holding a kayuk soon. From the beginning of next year, nuclear plants will remain without cheap Russian fuel! You’ll have to pay in full for everything !!!
              1. nerd.su
                nerd.su 16 July 2013 14: 50
                +2
                In the post to which you answer, I mean the mineral wealth of Russia.
                But speaking of states ...

                Quote: AVV
                And what mineral wealth ??? Besides water?

                One should not forget that the United States is a rather big country, where there are almost any mineral resources. A favorable climate (in the latitude of Crimea and to the south the whole country except Alaska) and developed infrastructure, engineering, a good geological service - that is, in general, they have no shortage of their own resources.

                So the statement:
                Quote: AVV
                Therefore, they wage all wars for resources !!!

                - does not quite reflect the truth. Rather, they wage war so that the expression is always true
                Quote: AVV
                dollars prints the main wealth, unsecured
            4. nerd.su
              nerd.su 16 July 2013 10: 18
              +3
              Quote: aksakal
              and secondly, what is idiotic law? What is the criterion?

              Well, for example

              In the city of Lehai in Nebraska, a decree brilliant in idiocy was issued, officially prohibiting the sale of bagel holes.
              In Alaska, it is forbidden to drink moose with alcohol.
              In Alaska, it is forbidden to wake bears to photograph them, as well as throw live moose from the plane.
              In Arizona, it is forbidden to keep at home more than one vibrator or other similar objects.
              In the city of Hayden in Arizona, you face a fine if you pester frogs.

              Etc. True, it is really not easy to check the actual existence of such laws ...
              1. Gari
                Gari 16 July 2013 14: 50
                +3
                Quote: bot.su
                Etc. True, it is really not easy to verify the actual existence of such laws.

                Iowa
                In accordance with the law, a kiss can last no more than 5 minutes.
                One-armed pianists are required by law to play for free.
                Alabama
                In Jasper County, a husband has every right to beat his wife with a stick, provided that the diameter of the stick does not exceed the diameter of the husband’s thumb.
                It is forbidden to place elephants in electric ovens!
                Арканзас
                The husband has the right to beat his wife, but not more than once a month.
                Washington
                The law, designed to reduce the number of crimes, states: “Any driver who has criminal intentions must stop at the entrance to the city and inform the head of the police about them by phone.”
                It is against the law to apply a polka dot pattern to the US flag.
                It is against the law to pretend that your parents are rich.
                Vermont
                Women can use the false jaws only with written permission from the husband.
                West Virginia
                Male citizens are allowed to mate with any animals whose weight does not exceed 18 kg.
                Indiana
                It is against the law to open cans with firearms.
            5. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 16 July 2013 10: 33
              +2
              Quote: aksakal
              first place according to idiotic laws, this still needs to be checked, and secondly, what is an idiotic law?

              ban on camel riding in the city
            6. Setrac
              Setrac 16 July 2013 14: 07
              +2
              Quote: aksakal
              I don’t know how to answer this question.

              The answer is simple - Russia shares its resources, the USA consumes 30% of the planet’s resources.
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              2. regsSSSR
                regsSSSR 16 July 2013 15: 40
                +1
                Quote: Setrac
                Quote: aksakal
                I don’t know how to answer this question.

                The answer is simple - Russia shares its resources, the USA consumes 30% of the planet’s resources.



                probably probably not the usa itself, but that very magnificent state citizen in the photo above (in the article), who was so imposingly lying on a pile of garbage laughing
                1. regsSSSR
                  regsSSSR 16 July 2013 15: 58
                  +1
                  what interested me even more on the above charts is that Slovakia is on the heels of obesity on the heels of Amerai and England, occupying a leading position in the world 4th place !! quickly they became Americanized brothers slovenians !!
            7. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 16 July 2013 15: 28
              0
              And here is one answer: Do not open your mouth to a loaf !!!
          2. KazaK Bo
            KazaK Bo 16 July 2013 09: 05
            +3
            Quote: bomg.77
            Spreading the statistics, in the end it was necessary to make a life-affirming conclusion that America is here and soon it will end, it would be more fun

            bomg.77 You posed the absolutely correct question ... but understand the author-- if he makes such a direct conclusion, which suggests itself, then he will not be published even on our sovereign patriotic site ... Such are the realities of our FREE PRESS!
            1. bomg.77
              bomg.77 16 July 2013 10: 13
              +3
              Quote: KazaK Bo
              bomg.77 You posed the absolutely correct question ... but understand the author-- if he makes such a direct conclusion, which suggests itself, then he will not be published even on our sovereign patriotic site ... Such are the realities of our FREE PRESS!
              hi I noticed yesterday on my deleted comment.
          3. Flanker 92
            Flanker 92 16 July 2013 19: 21
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            Interesting about Russia, UN statistics

            Russia, according to UN statistics, occupies:
            1st place in the world in the production and export of natural gas (35% of world production).
            1 is the world's largest natural resource.
            1st place in the world in terms of reserves and physical volume of diamond exports and 2nd place in their production.
            2 is in the world in explored reserves of platinum and
            1st place in its export.
            1 is the world's largest explored silver reserves.
            2 is the world's largest explored gold reserves.
            1st place in the world in explored reserves of coal (23% of global coal reserves).
            1st place in the world in forest resources (23% of world forest reserves).
            1-place in the world in terms of drinking water.
            1st place in the world for reserves of sturgeon, crabs, pollock in 200 miles of economic zone.
            1st place in the world for proven reserves of tin, zinc, titanium, niobium.
            1 is the world's largest exporter of nitrogen fertilizers.
            1 is the world's largest peat reserve.

            1st place in the world in terms of growth in the number of dollar billionaires and 2nd place - in the NUMBER of dollar billionaires (after the United States).
            -67-place in the world in terms of life
            -71-e place in the world in terms of human development.
            -72-place in the world according to the rating of state expenditures per citizen
            -127-place in the world in terms of population health
            -111-place in the world for the average life expectancy
            134-place in the world in life expectancy for men

            And again, ahead of the rest:
            1 is number one in the world in the number of suicides among ELDERLY, CHILDREN and TEENS.
            1st place in the world in the number of divorces and children born out of wedlock.
            1st place in the world in the number of abortions and the number of children abandoned by parents.
            1-place in the world for absolute loss of population.
            1-th place in the world for the consumption of alcohol and alcohol-containing products.
            1-place in the world for the sale of spirits
            1 -th place in the world for the sale of tobacco
            1-e place in the world in the number of deaths from alcoholism and smoking.
            1-e place in the world in mortality from diseases of the cardiovascular system.
            2-place in the world sales of fake drugs.
            1st place in the world in HEROIN CONSUMPTION (21% of world production)
            1st place in the world in terms of the number of AVIACATASTROFs (13 times the global average)
            -159-place in the world in terms of political rights and freedoms.
            1. Cat
              Cat 16 July 2013 19: 26
              +3
              Quote: Flanker 92
              -159-place in the world in terms of political rights and freedoms.

              I don’t know what about the rest, but on a specific point - the UN obviously made a mistake and turned the list upside down =))
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          5. abdrah
            abdrah 17 July 2013 03: 03
            0
            so somehow -

            clickable.
      2. Igor39
        Igor39 16 July 2013 08: 19
        +2
        There are three types of lies: lodges, notorious lodges and statistics. Mark Twain.
        1. Silkway0026
          Silkway0026 16 July 2013 11: 03
          +7
          and what is the lie? big spoon? or talk about the word "lie" ???
          1. yur
            yur 16 July 2013 21: 30
            0
            A bed is the husband of a spoon.
        2. papik09
          papik09 17 July 2013 03: 49
          0
          Yes, it is precisely noticed. This is the same as logic - there is formal logic, mathematical and FEMALE. And what is female logic? And this is when there is no logic laughing
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 16 July 2013 08: 55
        +3
        Quote: bomg.77
        The author, but say what I wanted?

        The author wanted to show the world statistics and who is the "leader" in it, or did you not notice?
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 16 July 2013 11: 33
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The author wanted to show the world statistics and who is the "leader" in it, or did you not notice?
          I noticed, but I would like to finally hear the opinion of the author.
      4. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 16 July 2013 09: 00
        +9
        Quote: bomg.77
        The author, but say what I wanted?

        And he wanted to say the following - these statistics should be published in all the media, on TV ... and not sing a hack to the Amer and their lifestyle. Then our people would have thought at least a little ... but what good is this, American way of life? Do we need to copy it so thoughtlessly? Or it can develop along our Orthodox Slavic paths of development ... more humane and humane.
        Thanks to the author ... but in such cases it is necessary to indicate the place of RUSSIA ...
        1. Muadipus
          Muadipus 16 July 2013 09: 35
          +3

          And he wanted to say the following - these statistics should be published in all media, on TV ..
          I got it, and in all countries.
        2. tolian
          tolian 16 July 2013 10: 18
          +3
          And why does no one notice that the relative number of convicts is the same as in the USA?
        3. bomg.77
          bomg.77 16 July 2013 11: 40
          +1
          Quote: KazaK Bo
          And he wanted to say the following - these statistics should be published in all the media, on TV ... and not sing a hack to the Amer and their lifestyle
          That's what I ask the author about his findings.
          Quote: KazaK Bo
          ..but in such cases it is necessary to indicate the place of RUSSIA ..
          for objectivity does not hurt
      5. Jurkovs
        Jurkovs 16 July 2013 09: 02
        +3
        Quote: bomg.77
        The author, but say what I wanted?

        And where did you find the name of the author, recently many publications are anonymous. This is a question for the moderators. There is no author in the original source either. Who was able to write? What are we discussing?
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 16 July 2013 14: 51
          +1
          Quote: Jurkovs
          And where did you find the name of the author, recently many publications are anonymous. This is a question for the moderators. There is no author in the original source either. Who was able to write? What are we discussing?
          The author replied to me top comments
      6. Cap-3 USSR
        Cap-3 USSR 16 July 2013 10: 22
        +2
        Statistics speaks for itself. And to add to it something is sometimes not worth it.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 16 July 2013 12: 34
          +4
          Quote: Jurkovs
          And where did you find the name of the author, recently many publications are anonymous. This is a question for the moderators. There is no author in the original source either. Who was able to write? What are we discussing?

          Well, let's start with the fact that this is not an article, but a project and its purpose is to show the adherents of the West - Russophobes and liberals, whose side in the universal battle of Good and Evil they actually occupy. I agree with many that it looks one-sided, but for the inquisitive it will not be difficult to find statistics on the points of the draft of any state for comparison.
          1. bomg.77
            bomg.77 16 July 2013 15: 42
            0
            Quote: Tersky
            Well, to begin with, this is not an article, but a project and its purpose is to show the adherents of the West - Russophobes and liberals, whose side they actually take in the universal battle of Good and Evil. I agree with many that it looks one-sided, but for the inquisitive it will not be difficult to find statistics on the points of the draft of any state for comparison.
            Tersky agrees that it is necessary to show where good and truth are, and where lies and evil, and it must be done so that the mosquito does not undermine the nose and show its problems, and not just keep silent about them.
      7. olviko
        olviko 16 July 2013 10: 38
        +3
        I wanted to say that life at someone else’s expense does not lead to good.
      8. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 16 July 2013 11: 37
        0
        Quote: bomg.77
        The author, but say what I wanted?


        And he said everything he wanted. Do you have a little to say?
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 16 July 2013 14: 53
          +1
          Quote: Geisenberg
          And he said everything he wanted. Do you have a little to say?
          Yes. Satisfies you such an answer!
      9. rodevaan
        rodevaan 17 July 2013 02: 15
        0
        Quote: bomg.77
        The author, but say what I wanted?


        - Well, apparently so - just in case, a little truth about how "everything is fine" in the "paradise dream" of all new scattered people ...
      10. ildar335
        ildar335 17 July 2013 03: 25
        0
        the fact that such a country (usa) with such indicators SHOULD NOT EXIST!
    2. sevtrash
      sevtrash 16 July 2013 09: 44
      11
      In general, you can turn a little differently.
      A lot of prisoners - this is how justice works, they don’t die in prisons, they are kept well.
      The first ones in hijacking - so this means they have to hell with the machine, they change them like gloves, because they don’t especially bother with the signaling, which is what they steal, and you need to look at who and what they steal. It could be a business. Today I stole from you and received insurance, and tomorrow you are with me.
      Obesity - so there is something to eat, do not limit yourself.
      They watch TV - so that there is a lot of free time.
      There are a lot of credit cards - so can you afford to take a bunch of loans and live not to push?
      A bunch of bachelors - they value freedom so much, if something is wrong in the family, they don’t hold on to it like ours.
      Teenage pregnancy and abuse are real numbers, which you won't find in some other countries.
      The number of lawyers is high - that’s how everything goes according to the law, the lawyer is available to the absolute majority, this is not a developing country.
      The leader in pornographic products is the United States as a global provider of the entertainment industry and motion pictures.
      They drink a lot of drugs - so 15% of their GDP goes to medicine, which means that the level of medical care is very good.
      Leaders in mental disorders - so everyone probably goes to a psychoanalyst, they take care of their psychological health, unlike other countries.
      Credit cards and mortgages - apparently the percentage is not comparable with the Russian one, since they can afford to take them in such volumes.
      Students have a duty to study - this means everyone can afford to take money for training and pay it.
      And so on
      1. itkul
        itkul 16 July 2013 11: 05
        -4
        Quote: sevtrash
        In general, you can turn a little differently.


        Do not worry about the misunderstandings, even if they continue to live in their own fictional world, I’m generally surprised at what kind of people this article is designed for in our Internet age, now it’s not the time of the scoop with its iron curtain and all the information is online. in the states through the eyes of a simple person, not a propagandist, at least here

        http://samsebeskazal.livejournal.com/
        1. rolik
          rolik 16 July 2013 12: 17
          +2
          Quote: itkul
          about life in the states through the eyes of a simple person, not an agitator-propagandist, even here

          The headline "Everyday life of one idler" speaks eloquently for everything.
          I had one friend whose favorite song was "Chunga-Changa". When asked why this particular song, the answer was given:
          - Because you eat coconuts, eat bananas and do not need to do anything.
          In general, he lived like that without straining his work. Therefore, for a long time I did not stay anywhere until I found a place for myself as a lighthouse keeper on the White Sea. That's where everything suited him, he didn’t bother much))))))))
      2. rolik
        rolik 16 July 2013 12: 11
        +9
        Quote: sevtrash
        Credit cards and mortgages - apparently the percentage is not comparable with the Russian one, since they can afford to take them in such volumes.

        Exactly, and then they sell houses for 10 bucks. Because they cannot repay the loan, while others cannot afford it. Entire streets are empty. only the sale signs near the house.
        Obesity is certainly buzzing)))) Moreover, it is a disease that generally expresses the health of the nation.
        They drink a lot of drugs, because getting to the hospital is very expensive and too expensive. Insurance covers only a small percentage of the total amount of treatment. That jammed with drugs.
        They watch TV, because there’s nothing more to do or nafig nothing interesting. What speaks of the cultural development of the nation. Our acquaintances have a son, a student went to Detroit on a student exchange program. He lived in a family. Mom is alone with her son. Mom coming home from work immediately turned on the box and sat down with chips and beer, well, sometimes with popcorn. And so all the evenings. When asked to go to the cinema, the answer was that the TV is much better and more convenient. He suggested going to the exhibition of contemporary art, saw bulging eyes and complete misunderstanding. It was out of the question to go out after 9 pm - it was too dangerous. You can get either a knife in the side, or a bullet.
        And so on.
        And there always arises a legitimate question about people admiring mattresses. Why are you here? In the current environment, it’s so easy to take a ticket and fly to a country of great opportunities. There is still little use for you here. Since, basically, idle chelas, who spend almost the whole day at the computer and live on the money of their parents. This is the question, why, everyone is silent.
        1. afire
          afire 16 July 2013 12: 30
          +2
          I will say this - each country in the world, by some measure or by several, is the first in the world, affect this -
          1) Skill and foresight in government.
          2) The presence or absence of resources.
          3) The presence or absence of education.
          4) The presence or absence of medicine.
        2. itkul
          itkul 16 July 2013 12: 33
          +2
          Quote: rolik
          And there always arises a legitimate question about people admiring mattresses. Why are you here? In the current environment, it’s so easy to take a ticket and fly to a country of great opportunities. There is still little use for you here.


          You talk like Kazakhs in Kazakhstan about Russians, like if a Russian speaks bad words, usually truthful about Kazakhstan, then we don’t need such a Russian, let him roll into his own Russia.
          1. Essenger
            Essenger 17 July 2013 02: 53
            +4
            It seems to be talking about America. Let's not breed srach here;) I am sure we will still have time and topic to discuss the situation in Kazakhstan.
            1. papik09
              papik09 17 July 2013 03: 55
              +2
              And you know, it’s probably funny for him to remember Kazakhstan. He "did not enter" the topic, so he writes that. Never mind. wink
        3. sevtrash
          sevtrash 16 July 2013 12: 54
          -1
          Quote: rolik
          Since, basically, idle people who spend almost all day at the computer and live on the money of their parents


          Everything is good in moderation, has long been known.
          Will you argue that living conditions are better in the USA, the HDI is very high? Your business, but who now believes in it?
          I would like for Russia to catch up with and overtake the United States in many, many aspects. But this is impossible, but a pity. Maybe one day.
          And your delights - who is sitting here, so it seems to me wrong. Who has money - why sit on this forum, they are not interested in it, and, for sure, it seems an extremely stupid pastime. And whoever is busy with business has nothing to do here. But those who have a bit of a head turned around, such as slightly patriotic and not indifferent, plus not too busy making money, that is, lazy ones, are here. True, trolls need to be excluded. The degree of laziness or turning is determined by the number of comments, copy-paste does not count.
          Learn Shura laughing
          1. rolik
            rolik 16 July 2013 13: 51
            -1
            Quote: sevtrash
            Will you argue that living conditions are better in the USA, the HDI is very high? Your business, but who now believes in it?
            I will not.
            Now let's see. Our economy began to grow around 2003 - 10 years of growth. In mattress how many years of prosperity, after the great depression ?? And no disasters, greenhouse conditions. But interestingly, the Russian economy is growing faster than the United States. For the United States, greenhouse conditions have ended. And what we see is confusion, chaos, and a big tremor before the future. The national debt of mattress, astronomical. The state debt of the Russian Federation does not exceed 10% of GDP.
            It would be interesting to look at your beloved America after 15 years of total destruction of its economy. And where would she be now.
            And one more important interest. as it was recently stated, the gold that mattresses had was gone. They ate him, what will happen next is a big question mark.
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 16 July 2013 15: 49
              +2
              Where is the money Zin ...? sevtrash? And what are you doing here? Is this work?
              1. sevtrash
                sevtrash 16 July 2013 17: 48
                +1
                I ask myself what
          2. rolik
            rolik 16 July 2013 16: 44
            +1
            Quote: sevtrash
            I would like for Russia to catch up with and overtake the United States in many, many aspects. But this is impossible, but a pity. Maybe one day.

            Nothing is impossible. By 20th year, China will be the first economy in the world. And who was China 30 years ago ??? And who took him seriously ??? And in the situation that is developing now, it is not in favor of the mattress. The times of eternal buzz for her have already passed. And light bread becomes less and less. So, if you work, and not walk to various meetings, then the economy can be boosted and the mattresses go ahead.
            Good to the topic of who is sitting here.
            I am sitting here at home on sick leave, or while analysis is ongoing. There is a time. I can’t go in for a month when I’ve been at work. But you hang out here during working hours. Or isn’t it? Judging by the stitches, you came here recently. And if you just watched the materials, you wouldn’t register, right? And if you register, then you are going to do what other visitors to this site do, but what about working time? Or here's another version, maybe you are already here and have been registered before. Here are just skulls got and did facebranding, as they say now.
            So, the spoken words are carried away by the wind - Shura))))
            1. sevtrash
              sevtrash 16 July 2013 18: 06
              0
              Quote: rolik
              Nothing is impossible.

              Yes, of course, but you are distracted from the main point that you dispute - the United States is quite a worthy country for living for its citizens and Russia, so far, far away.
              Quote: rolik
              I am sitting here at home on sick leave, or while analysis is ongoing.

              I don’t care who does what during working hours or what seems like working hours for you. And I’m not going to report to you, excuse me. And about the minuses - anyway. You won’t please everyone, and why.
              1. rolik
                rolik 17 July 2013 13: 07
                0
                Quote: sevtrash
                . And I’m not going to report to you, excuse me. And about the minuses - anyway. You won’t please everyone, and why.

                Yes, to be honest, it’s absolutely violet than what you do in life. Because this is your life and you live it))))
                And I didn’t put any minuses in your address. I rarely put them at all. Because minus those who have arguments run out or simply no arguments.
      3. bomg.77
        bomg.77 16 July 2013 14: 55
        0
        Quote: sevtrash
        And so on
        + hi
    3. self-propelled
      self-propelled 16 July 2013 13: 20
      +3
      Quote: Alexej
      Statistics is a stubborn thing, but what I'm sure of is that the states are the first in the world to falsify facts. Masters so to speak.

      tell me, who originally sailed to America from Europe? these were not the highest minds, but those who were not needed in Europe (or who were hiding from justice in the Metropolis). what do you want from the ancestors of such "cream"? nothing good should be expected ...
  2. vitek1233
    vitek1233 16 July 2013 05: 58
    +5
    I personally am not a fan of the states, but the article -
  3. UFO
    UFO 16 July 2013 06: 05
    +7
    Honestly - I do not like one-sidedness, it was necessary to add the 1st place of the States in a positive way for the overall picture. sad
    1. Pit
      Pit 16 July 2013 06: 10
      +7
      And also show where and in what positions Russia is located. And it just so happens that yours was stuck, and we are in chocolate. It should show where we really are, in order to know what we should strive for and what to break from without looking back.
      1. True
        True 16 July 2013 10: 13
        12
        Our achievements in Google search if you type the phrase "Russia takes the first place in the world":

        - Russia ranks first in the world in terms of intentional killings - 21,5 per 100.000 population;
        - Russia ranks first in the world in the number of smoking children and adolescents;
        - Russia ranks first in the world in the relative number of prisoners (720-780 per 100 thousand population);
        - Russia ranks first in the world in the number of bribes when entering universities;
        - Russia ranks first in the world in terms of growth in tobacco smoking;
        - Russia ranks first in the world in terms of accident rate on roads;
        - Russia ranks first in the world in mortality from suicide among adolescents 15-19 years old;
        - Russia ranks first in the number of air crashes in the world;
        - Russia ranks first in the world in terms of absolute population decline;
        - Russia ranks first in the world in the number of suicides among older people;
        - Russia ranks first in the world in the number of divorces and children born out of wedlock;
        - Russia ranks first in the world in the number of children abandoned by parents
        - Russia ranks first in the world in mortality from diseases of the cardiovascular system;
        - Russia ranks first in the world in the number of patients with mental illness;
        - Russia ranks first in the world in terms of human trafficking
        - Russia ranks first in the world in the number of abortions and maternal mortality
        - Russia ranks first in the world in terms of heroin consumption (21% of world production)
        - Russia ranks first in the world in the consumption of alcohol and alcohol-containing products
        - Russia took first place in the world in sales of strong alcohol;
        - Russia ranks first in the world in terms of growth in HIV-infected people
        - Russia ranks first in the world in the number of air crashes (13 times the global average)
        - Russia ranks first in the world in the number of billionaires prosecuted by law enforcement agencies
        - Russia ranks first in the world in the number of accidents
        - Russia ranks first in the world in import of Chinese cars
        - Russia ranks first in the world in import of kangaroo meat from Australia
        - Russia ranks first in the world in physical volume of rough diamond exports
        - Russia ranks first in the world in explored silver reserves
      2. True
        True 16 July 2013 10: 14
        +1
        - Russia ranks 2nd in the world in explored gold reserves
        - Russia takes the 2nd place in the world in explored reserves of platinum and the first place in its export
        - Russia takes 2nd place in the world in terms of bureaucracy
        - Russia ranks 2nd in the world in the number of dollar billionaires (after the United States)
        - Russia ranks 2nd in the world in the number of suicides (after Lithuania)
        - Russia ranks 2nd in the world in the number of murders per capita (after Colombia)
        - Russia ranks 2nd in the world in the export of arms
        - Russia ranks 2nd in the world in the distribution of fake drugs (after China)
        - Russia ranks 2nd in the world in terms of production of porn films
        - Russia ranks 2nd in the world in the number of children adopted in the USA
        - Russia takes 2nd place in the world in the number of migrants
        - Russia takes 2nd place in the world in the number of prisoners per 1000 people (after the United States)
        - Russia ranks 2nd in the world in the number of people seeking asylum in the West (after Serbia)
        - Russia takes 2nd place in the list of countries with the largest number of small arms
        - Russia ranks 2nd in the world in the number of journalists killed in the last ten years (after Iraq)
        - Russia ranks 2nd in the world among manufacturers of pirated discs
        - Russia ranks 2nd in the world among spam distributing countries
        - Russia takes 2nd place in the world in the size of the submarine fleet
        - Russia ranks 3rd in the world in the number of refugees
        - Russia ranks 3rd in the world in terms of the influx of migrants
        - Russia ranks 3rd in the world in the number of cellular subscribers
        - Russia takes 3rd place in the world in the number of car thefts
        - Russia ranks 3rd in the world in the dissemination of child pornography
        - Russia takes 3rd place in the world in the number of totalitarian sects
        - Russia ranks 4th in the world in terms of zirconium stocks
        - Russia takes 4th place in the world in consumption of low alcohol
        - Russia ranks 5th in the world in terms of genetic health in the world
        - Russia takes 6th place in the world in the consumption of decorative and medicinal cosmetics
        - Russia takes 7th place in the world in the number of billionaires
        - Russia takes 8th place in the world in the number of foreign students studying
        - Russia takes 14th place in the world in terms of gold in the state reserve
        - Russia ranks 15th in the world in the number of Internet users
        - Russia ranks 16th in the world in terms of gross national income
        - Russia ranks 21st in the world in the number of patented inventions
        - Russia ranks 27th in the world in terms of education quality
        - Russia takes 32nd place in the environmental ranking of countries
        - Russia ranks 43rd in the world in terms of economic competitiveness
        - Russia ranks 51st among the least corrupt countries
        - Russia ranks 57th in the world in terms of quality of life
        - Russia takes 62nd place in the world in terms of technological development (between Costa Rica and Pakistan)
        - Russia ranks 65th in the world in terms of living standards
        - Russia occupies 70th place in the world in the use of information and communication technologies
        - Russia ranks 71st in the world in terms of human development
        - Russia ranks 72nd in the world in terms of rating of state spending per person
        - Russia takes 97th place in per capita income
        - Russia ranks 111th in the world in terms of life expectancy
        - Russia takes 120th place in the world ranking of economic freedoms
        - Russia takes 127th place in the world in terms of population health
        - Russia takes 147th place in terms of freedom of the press (out of 168)
        - Russia takes 159 place in the world in terms of political rights and freedoms
        - Russia takes 175th place in the world in terms of the physical security of citizens
        - Russia takes 182 place in the total mortality rate among 207 countries of the world
        1. patsantre
          patsantre 16 July 2013 11: 36
          +3
          Quote: True
          - Russia takes 62nd place in the world in terms of technological development (between Costa Rica and Pakistan)


          nde
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 16 July 2013 17: 31
            +7
            Quote: patsantre
            Quote: True
            - Russia takes 62nd place in the world in terms of technological development (between Costa Rica and Pakistan)


            nde

            This says that such lists are worth it. Probably everyone flies to Cospos on Pakistani missiles and Costa Rica is building nuclear power plants in other countries.
        2. Pit
          Pit 16 July 2013 11: 50
          +1
          Quote: True
          Our Google Search Achievements

          Is it worth it to believe? Considering whose company it is and in whose territory it is located.
        3. rolik
          rolik 16 July 2013 12: 30
          +6
          Quote: True
          - Russia ranks 2nd in the world in the number of suicides (after Lithuania)

          I didn’t read everything, but it was doubtful about suicides. Looked and really not true info:
          6th place in the world in the number of suicides among all ages (after Lithuania, South Korea, Kazakhstan, Belarus and Japan)
          And I remember that somewhere I heard that either Sweden or Norway came out on top in suicides. I don’t remember exactly.
          I did not look at the rest of the items.
          Because the forecasts made by Google and other agencies of our "partners" raise serious doubts about the correctness.
        4. Tersky
          Tersky 16 July 2013 12: 45
          +4
          Quote: True
          - Russia takes

          You do not share information from this Internet resource? http://www.fbi.gov/ Judging by the numbers, we have long been dead ...
    2. UFO
      UFO 16 July 2013 06: 50
      +6
      Although the photo of the "pig" in glasses in the garbage is cool! laughing
      1. George
        George 16 July 2013 07: 23
        +6

        But, but more careful in the expressions of Vadim.
        The men I heard fall into two categories:
        1 - who like full women, and 2 - who hide it.
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 16 July 2013 07: 27
          +5
          Quote: GEORGE
          The men I heard fall into two categories:

          There is a third category - they like women who they don’t like And they love women who do not need to hell tongue wassat
      2. rolik
        rolik 16 July 2013 13: 56
        +1
        Quote: UFO
        Although the photo of the "pig" in glasses in the garbage is cool!

        As the unforgettable Ostap Ibrahimovic said:
        - A sultry woman is a poet's dream))))))
      3. papik09
        papik09 17 July 2013 04: 02
        +2
        Do not judge a woman by kilograms, yes you will not be judged for centimeters wassat
    3. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 16 July 2013 07: 29
      +8
      Quote: UFO
      it was necessary to add the 1st place of the United States in a positive way for the overall picture. sad

      There are most gay people in the world per capita and blacks living on social benefits laughing
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 16 July 2013 08: 22
        +6
        Quote: Ruslan67
        There are most gay people in the world per capita and blacks living on social benefits

        Text Translation Pictures:According to statistics, one of this group must be gay ...
        Clickable Image:
    4. seller trucks
      seller trucks 16 July 2013 10: 11
      0
      Quote: UFO
      Honestly - I do not like one-sidedness, it was necessary to add the 1 places of the States in a positive way for the overall picture


      why is the so-called. "The World Factbook" - an almanac about all the countries of the world published annually by the CIA http://ciaworldfactbook.us/europe/russia.html that's where the one-sidedness and lies.
  4. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 16 July 2013 06: 09
    +8
    The most important thing is their first place-BLOCKED !!!!!!
  5. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 16 July 2013 06: 27
    +2
    I was very pleased that according to statistics, these terrible lists do not include Russia! It is not clear what their snobbery is based on, they should not be proud, but grab onto mentally abnormal heads and think about how to fix the situation. It was upsetting that their "parents" (they can't say mom, dad) kill their children. And what about stupid laws I believe 100%! The husband works in a joint company with the AMERICOS, and they, on every occasion, on glossy paper, publish brochures - "instructions" for workers on how to behave with the onset of something, what to stock up on, fly - not fly, go out - not go out, turn on - do not include and so on. etc. Over one such, published for the company's employees a month before the onset of 2000, our whole family "neighing" heartily ... Well, if one LADY in the USA thought of somehow "drying" a cat in the microwave, then it is not surprising the content of their instructions, designed for mentally not normal people who have forgotten how to think.
    1. strange and pretty meaningless
      strange and pretty meaningless 16 July 2013 06: 42
      +6
      From this series - a memo for parents: "A child dressed in a Batman costume cannot fly!" request
      And SYSHYa - leading Sea power fellow
      1. George
        George 16 July 2013 06: 45
        +2
        Quote: abyrvalg
        From this series - a memo for parents: "A child dressed in a Batman costume cannot fly!" request
        And SYSHYa - leading Sea power fellow

        Better to rock the waves than beat the rocks wink
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 16 July 2013 12: 49
          +2
          Quote: GEORGE
          Better to rock the waves than beat the rocks

          The tsunami is also a wave ... wink So your credo is very doubtful. yes .
          1. George
            George 16 July 2013 18: 05
            +1
            Quote: Tersky
            Quote: GEORGE
            Better to rock the waves than beat the rocks

            The tsunami is also a wave ... wink So your credo is very doubtful. yes .

            Do you mean this Victor? It's okay - it's a healthy thing.
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 16 July 2013 22: 28
              +1
              Quote: GEORGE
              Do you mean this Victor?

              Yuri!good! Well, a very good example laughing +
  6. George
    George 16 July 2013 06: 36
    +7
    Number of obese people

    As Zadornov said:
    -They took off all their skinny ones in films a long time ago.
  7. raja666
    raja666 16 July 2013 07: 09
    0
    Well done, Americans keep it up))))
  8. sashka
    sashka 16 July 2013 07: 19
    +5
    Without comparison with us, the article is meaningless ..
  9. Rumata
    Rumata 16 July 2013 07: 28
    +6
    Ndya article is certainly super ... I think a similar positive list will be much longer since there will be many items ranging from the country's infrastructure, whether the Navy and ending with the best universities in the world and the largest state participation in the development of science and innovation ..
    1. Cat
      Cat 16 July 2013 08: 25
      +3
      Quote: Rumata
      Ndya article is certainly super ... I think a similar positive list will be much longer since there will be many items ranging from the country's infrastructure, whether the Navy and ending with the best universities in the world and the largest state participation in the development of science and innovation ...

      well so ... given that 27. Americans make up 5% of the world's population while consuming 30% of the world's resources - it’s not surprising, all of their infrastructure, etc. Nevertheless, even in fact having the world monopoly on printing virtual money and exchanging it for real resources - one fig managed to get into crazy debts, both in terms of the country and individual citizens. Indicator, however.
      With regard to science specifically ... but what, in fact, have been discovered by the US since the end of the Cold War? But nothing. And non-fundamental too. A striking example is weapons, when Russian models, based on Soviet developments in the 80s, are quite "at the same level" or even superior.
      1. Joker
        Joker 16 July 2013 08: 48
        +2
        it is not surprising, all of their infrastructure, etc. Nevertheless, even in fact having a world monopoly on printing virtual money and exchanging it for real resources - one FIG managed to get into crazy debts, both in terms of the country and individual citizens.

        Ay, what a monopoly? The Fed is printing money, but it is a PRIVATE organization lobbying its interests, they have a lot to spit and how Americans live for them the main thing is to create for them the appearance of a beautiful life on credit, so that the grandmother can earn money, they are not controlled by the government or anyone else, they to myself. The last president who tried to resist them was shot. The United States is fully occupied by the Fed and has not belonged to itself for a long time. Debts then US 17 trillion and not the Fed, the United States grunts and the bigwigs of the Fed will find themselves another feeder, because no one pays any attention to them, but those who pay a tiny minority.
        1. Cat
          Cat 16 July 2013 10: 48
          +2
          Quote: Joker
          Aw, what a monopoly? The Fed is printing money, and it is a PRIVATE organization lobbying for its interests, spit it out deeply and how Americans live. The main thing is to create for them the appearance of a beautiful life on credit so they can earn money from the grandmother, they are not controlled by the government or anyone else, they themselves to myself. The last president who tried to resist them was shot dead. The USA is completely occupied by the Fed and has not belonged to itself for a long time

          this statement, like most conspiracy theories, is very, very controversial. If only because the Fed and the USA are a kind of Siamese twins, the separation of which is fatal with a probability of 100 percent of commercials. After all, all the influence of the Fed rests on gray-green bills, which, in the event of a collapse or just a significant decline in the United States, will instantly turn into regular waste paper. Well, gold, as if available in the coffers - is nothing more than a symbol, and is valued only in peaceful, prosperous times. And as soon as it comes to a more or less sane mess - all Fed reserves can be exchanged for a wagon of grain or an oil tank. Well, let’s not for the composition, or even the steamer with grain or the tanker with oil. In the same besieged Leningrad, on the black market, for a gold brooch (not just a precious metal, but a piece of jewelry) - they gave a couple of kilos of rotten potatoes. And then not always, but if you're lucky. And this is not a metaphor, it really was ... In addition, it is not at all a fact that in the basements of the Fed there is anything yellow and metal in general - there have been various rumors lately =)
          In general, as soon as the United States leaves the stage, the Fed owners will not be with them in the city ... no matter who they are.
          As for the said murdered president, J. F. Kennedy ... even if your statement about the customers of the murder is true - then the reason is not named. If he wanted anything, then do not confront the Fed, but subordinate it to yourself. And for yourself - this is not the US president, but the Kennedy clan. For which he paid. Otherwise, it was enough to simply declare from some high rostrum to remind the United Nations that the system has discredited itself, the bankers there are such and such and such, therefore, it is necessary to abolish, nationalize the gold and the machine, and as for the Fed’s international obligations, alas, we regret your losses ... and - EVERYTHING. Yes, there would have been a default and a collapse of the economy, you think. It wasn’t present well-fed and brazen America - then the generation remembered the Great Depression, the War, and they were preparing for the Third World in all seriousness. And the Americans did not yet have an awareness of the fact that the whole world owes them. They would survive, in general, and even easily elect their beloved Kenny for a second term. And the most interesting - the murder, in this situation, would become simply meaningless, at least for the owners of the Fed.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 16 July 2013 11: 51
            +1
            Quote: Cat
            If he wanted anything, then do not confront the Fed, but subordinate it to yourself. And for yourself - this is not the US president, but the Kennedy clan. For which he paid. Otherwise, it was enough to simply declare from some high rostrum to remind the United Nations that the system has discredited itself, the bankers there are such and such and such, therefore, it is necessary to abolish, nationalize the gold and the machine, and as for the Fed’s international obligations, alas, we regret your losses ... and - EVERYTHING. Yes, there would be a default and a collapse of the economy, think
            - - No more than a version, one of many. According to Starikov, Kennedy was only thinking about the Fed, he had not yet formed any clear plans, as a touchstone he issued a decree on April 1, 1963, on the printing of a commemorative coin in denominations of only 1 dollar not from the Federal Reserve, but from the walls of the US Treasury. And for this "probe" he was killed, for reasons of "we punish even just for thoughts that they would not even dare to THINK about it!"
            Actually, what difference does it make to the owners of a private Fed shop, in whose favor John F. Kennedy was going to sweep aside the printing press? In favor of your clan or in favor of the US Treasury? There is only one outcome for the owners of the machine - monstrous losses for them, and who gets it - they are of little interest. Remember the phrase from the movie "Brother 2"? Like, such money is NOT RISKED! Proceeding from this logical message of Kennedy, it was so, that according to another plan, he was doomed in any case. Therefore, the dispute is meaningless, the main thing is that it is clear who the killer is ("look for who benefits")
            and the motives for the murder are clear. The rest is the details.
            Quote: Cat
            And as soon as it comes to a more or less sane mess - all Fed reserves can be exchanged for a wagon of grain or an oil tank. Well, let’s not for the composition, or even the steamer with grain or the tanker with oil. In the same besieged Leningrad

            - this is if the States fall into a similar blockade. Only who is capable of doing this blockade? But if the mess is in third countries, to which the States will sell weapons, ammunition, food and other things, then this is a completely different matter! To whom is war, and to whom is mother dear?
            1. Cat
              Cat 16 July 2013 12: 56
              0
              Quote: aksakal
              - - No more than a version, one of many.
              ......................
              ......................
              and the motives for the murder are clear. The rest is the details

              the first statement is true - the version, "one of". The same is with motives: the matter is clear, the matter is dark. And the secrecy label from this case, it is likely, will never be removed, well, unless some thread of the next Snowden steals and publishes.
              Quote: aksakal
              this is if the States fall into a similar blockade. Only who is capable of doing this blockade? But if the mess is in third countries to which the States will sell weapons, ammunition, food and other

              States do not need to be blocked, it is enough to block those who sell them energy resources. And there, it’s not far from starvation, especially taking into account the fact that their GMO farming is a very energy-consuming thing.
        2. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 16 July 2013 16: 14
          0
          And who in the Fed edit the ball? Jewish bunch of the rich, who is robbing the world with the hands of Sasch and the NATO members who joined them and they are goyim, that is, you and I don’t give a damn!
      2. Rumata
        Rumata 16 July 2013 12: 21
        +1
        Quote: Cat
        As for science in particular ... and what, in fact, has been discovered fundamental by the United States since the end of the Cold War? But nothing.

        No one has discovered anything fundamental since the middle of the last century. BUT percent 80% of research in promising areas. starting with the theory of strings and all kinds of macrocosms, and ending with genetic engineering and biotechnology, are carried out in the United States. You can talk as much as you like about the fact that they lure the best specialists to themselves with money, print dollars, but the USA is now driven by science, whatever one may say. I work in the field of creating new drugs, the vast majority of these drugs are being created in the USA, part in Europe, part in Israel, Japan is also not far behind, Russia will catch up with these countries in 40 years at best. New targeted drugs that will revolutionize medeuin in 10 years, almost all studies in the USA, again new inhibitory drugs - the USA, the list goes on and on. And so in everything connected with science and technology ...
        1. Cat
          Cat 16 July 2013 13: 27
          +2
          Quote: Rumata
          The USA is now driven by science, whatever one may say. I work in the field of creating new drugs, the vast majority of these drugs are being created in the USA, part in Europe, part in Israel, Japan is also not far behind, Russia will catch up with these countries in 40 years at best. New targeted drugs that will revolutionize medeuin in 10 years, almost all studies in the USA, again new inhibitory drugs - the USA, the list goes on and on. And so in everything connected with science and technology ...

          But from this place, please, in more detail.
          Personally, I am familiar with medicine only in terms of traumatology and dentistry - everything else (knock-knock-knock on wood))) in perfect order. But not all friends and relatives are so lucky, and even to look at prices at the pharmacy or in the prices of medical institutions is not necessary to hurt yourself. So: these same prices are justified by large research costs when developing new drugs, to conduct long-playing clinical trials, and all that jazz. Hence the medical patents: medicines that could save thousands and thousands of patients are simply not available to these patients, due to the restrictions of the copyright holder, who is categorically against the mass release of these drugs by outsiders - they say we invested in research, and they will open the trade cheaply and spoil everything.
          And here, the question arises: if the research was carried out at the expense of the state (USA), then with what fright do you pharmacists buy such prices and tell tales? If all the research was done for your money, then what side are the States here? Or any other country?
          In general, the conclusion: either you wishful thinking, or one of two.

          PS: The fact that the majority of "modern" and "new" drugs are needed not so much by patients as by pharmacists - I, just in case, will not say anything. Fortunately, as I said, I did not have to test it on my own bitter experience.
          1. Rumata
            Rumata 16 July 2013 13: 43
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            Quote: Cat
            if the research was carried out at the expense of the state (USA)

            Not at the expense of the state, or rather subsidies are being knocked out, but mostly companies spend their money.
            Quote: Cat
            If all the research was done for your money, then what side are the States here? Or any other country?

            If the company is located in the United States, pays taxes in the United States, takes out benefits from the US government, the majority of employees are US citizens, then why should they create something that is not related to the USA?
            Quote: Cat
            The fact that the majority of "modern" and "new" drugs are needed not so much by patients as by pharmacists - I, just in case, will not say anything.

            Shut up. Here was Skin cancer, in which only 13% of patients survived, then they created the "Glivec" necessary only for pharmacists, and the survival rate sharply became 90%. But, of course, only pharmacists need it.
            Quote: Cat
            supposedly we invested in research here, and they will open trade cheaply and ruin everything.

            What do you want? =) What is better to have a cure for Cancer, but expensive or not to have it at all? Or should a firm invest hundreds (!!) of millions of dollars and 10-15 years to create a medicine and then give it away for free? So all companies would be bent, it's like creating processors in factories and selling them for one dollar since there are those who cannot afford to buy them. The fact that someone cannot afford a medicine is a state problem, it should subsidize important drugs, not the companies that created it.
            1. Cat
              Cat 16 July 2013 14: 44
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              Quote: Rumata
              What do you want? =) What is better to have a cure for Cancer, but expensive or not to have it at all? Or should a firm invest hundreds (!!) of millions of dollars and 10-15 years to create a medicine and then give it away for free? So all companies would be bent, it's like creating processors in factories and selling them for one dollar since there are those who cannot afford to buy them. The fact that someone cannot afford a medicine is a state problem, it should subsidize important drugs, not the companies that created it.

              I am not at all against the cure for cancer, moreover, I am not even against you making money on it. Naturally, on condition - that this is really a medicine, and not some expensive advertised xpen from "natural minerals of the Dead Sea" or "bone marrow of high-altitude sharks". Do not take it for distrust or disrespect, but there have already been so many loud statements about effective drugs for cancer ... and in the end - either surgery (if they had time) or chemotherapy. Or both. And there are no guarantees, even 50/50. So that's it.

              But this is, as it were, lyrics, but in essence: 100, 200, even 500 million dollars, and even stretched over 10 years - this is not too serious a sum for a small state, let alone a superpower with its own printing press. Even if this power is carrying out 10, 100, 1000 such projects - this is a penny compared to the costs of the same "democratization" of unwanted ones. And with all this - for those who cannot afford medicines - this is their own problem (and not the state one, as you claim). At least somewhere, but in the States for sure. There is insurance - get medical care within the specified amount, there is no insurance and money - even though you lie down and die on the threshold of the clinic, no one will scratch yourself. I exaggerate, of course, but in most cases this is exactly the case ...
              1. Rumata
                Rumata 16 July 2013 15: 32
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                Quote: Cat
                Naturally, on condition - that this is really a medicine, and not some expensive advertised xpen from "natural minerals of the Dead Sea" or "bone marrow of alpine sharks"

                Yes, such medicines, also infuriate me
                Quote: Cat
                it’s like lyrics, but in fact: 100, 200, even 500 million dollars, and even extended for 10 years - this is not a very serious amount for a small state, what can we say about a superpower

                This usually works like this. A pharmaceutical company sponsors 5-7 studies in a specific area, such as a cure for blood cancer. Most often, after a couple of years, most of the projects are closed due to lack of results, one remains, maybe two. In general, huge expenses, closed projects cost money, promising to hold for another 10 years. It is not uncommon for the full cost of creating a medicine to reach a billion dollars. BUT in the USA there are dozens of large companies, hundreds of small ones, each has more than one project, it is hundreds of billions of dollars, and it’s hard to pull at the state level. Therefore, state. Dep, for example, sponsors certain drugs. which have reached the stage of clinical trials are very rare before. Only healthy competition in market relations can allow so many studies. Yes, people are mainly driven by the desire to earn money, but in the end we get financing for drugs that will save lives, so I don’t really care what the sponsors are guided by.
                Quote: Cat
                And with all this - for those who can not afford drugs - this is their own problem (and not state, as you say)

                In Europe, Israel, Japan, with reservations in the United States, there is a state. drug subsidy programs. Nobody will give Viagra for free, but if you have cancer, instead of 100% of the cost of chemotherapy, for example, you will pay 10-15%. For example, the same "Glivec" against lymphoma in Israel for patients, cost an average of $ 200 per pack. In Russia it is not subsidized and costs 70 rubles. In Germany, they generally get paid for a penny, and the state takes on almost the entire cost. If the state does not subsidize important medicines, then people cannot afford to buy them because companies cannot afford to sell them cheaper, a vicious circle.
                1. Cat
                  Cat 16 July 2013 16: 24
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                  Quote: Rumata
                  In Europe, Israel, Japan, with reservations in the United States, there is a state. drug subsidy programs.

                  in this case we are talking about the United States - where everything rests on those very reservations. Where even very wealthy people to pay for treatment outside of insurance is almost unrealistic.

                  As for Europe and others like them ... the wife of a friend had a thyroid gland - they traveled to a bunch of clinics here, in Russia, in Germany, and you also visited the promised one. What it cost - I don't know, at least one and a half hundred thousand (a sold jeep and a loan secured by an apartment), plus some more relatives collected. And what is the result? In April, it was three years since Olya left ... of all the doctors whom she visited - only one doctor, an old Moscow Jew, calls a friend on Skype every anniversary, and brings a glass to the monitor - recalls the type. It's hard for me to argue whether this is necessary or not, but when Sasha talks about it ... really, a hefty man, so to speak, "sporty-looking", robustly beaten by life - and he has tears in his eyes ... that means something ... Moreover, it was this old doctor who was the only one who took a purely symbolic amount for examination and consultations, but refused to treat, did not see a chance. All the rest - they wrote out prescriptions, prescribed procedures, issued invoices, and at the end made a helpless gesture - they say, we tried, we tried, but alas and ah. And the money paid for the drugs - they were also used, and not stowed away, and what did not help, so no one is to blame. Just business, nothing personal.
                  I don’t know, maybe not everywhere like that ... although I doubt it - judging by the reviews of most of my friends, there are almost no doctors left. Instead of them - completely rumblers.
                  1. Rumata
                    Rumata 16 July 2013 16: 51
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                    Quote: Cat
                    one and a half hundred thousand

                    There is a difference between a citizen of a country and a medical tourist. Why on earth would Germany pay money for a Russian citizen?
                    Quote: Cat
                    I don’t know, maybe not everywhere like that ... although I doubt it - judging by the reviews of most of my friends, there are almost no doctors left. Instead of them - completely rumblers.

                    I can give you many opposite examples, as I often go to hospitals. For example, in the case of a hip fracture, in Russia, 12% do the operation, and then those who can order a prosthesis from Europe. In Israel, hospitalization is in place, the operation on the same day for the first 24 hours are critical. The operation itself is at the expense of the state. A fracture of the femoral neck, without surgery, leads to disability and without the necessary care, and eventually even death.

                    Another example is eye cancer. I myself spoke with a man who in Russia all the doctors said that you need to cut an eye or even two, that there is no treatment. According to your logic, he could not do anything since, of course, those who say that there is only money to want treatment. As a result, he had a series of special chemotherapy with complete remission and preservation of the eyes. So the stories are different. There are so many types of cancer, and for example, 30 years ago, most of them were considered incurable, but now on the contrary, most are not treated if they were not started.
                    1. Cat
                      Cat 16 July 2013 17: 10
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                      Quote: Rumata
                      There is a difference between a citizen of a country and a medical tourist. Why on earth would Germany pay money for a Russian citizen?

                      the matter is not so much in the amount - as in the fact that money is taken independently without result, without any guarantees. What are ours, what are yours, what are the Germans. And it’s okay, these are scientists who spend state grants on basic research with strange prospects - they really have no other options, and if you don’t look for anything, you won’t find anything. And it’s a completely different matter - when a private clinic takes money from a private person, it takes it regardless of the outcome of the treatment. In all areas of business, the standard clause of the contract stipulates the amount of the penalty for unfulfilled work, and only doctors and pharmacists stand apart. Theoretically, you can file a lawsuit and try to sue something, but the probability is very small ... and even then - if it turns out that the diagnosis or procedure was obviously wrong.

                      Quote: Rumata
                      In Israel, hospitalization is in place, the operation on the same day for the first 24 hours are critical. The operation itself at the expense of the state

                      The level of Israeli medicine is rightfully considered one of the best in the world, and no one is going to argue with this. I just want to remind once again: this article discusses not Israel, but a completely different country - the United States.
                      1. Rumata
                        Rumata 16 July 2013 17: 21
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                        Quote: Cat
                        the matter is not so much in the amount - as in the fact that money is taken independently without result, without any guarantees.

                        Well, here I can’t answer anything. Warranties are rarely given. Even during normal operations, there are force majeure, and what can we say about the advanced form of serious cancer. There are so many factors that it is not possible to know for sure. On the other hand, tell me. For example, your child has cancer, you are told that there is no chance, you would not continue to try? Would you regret a loan and a jeep for the sake of a 1% chance of recovery? After all, there are complete remissions in the last stages of cancer, which they are only now beginning to understand, and before they were a mystery, almost a miracle. If I were a doctor, and knew that the chance to cure even 95%, I would not give a guarantee since these 5% will not clearly come out or not.
                      2. Cat
                        Cat 16 July 2013 17: 36
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                        Quote: Rumata
                        Well, here I can’t answer anything. Warranties are rarely given. Even during normal operations, there are force majeure, and what can we say about the advanced form of serious cancer. There are so many factors that it is not possible to know for sure. On the other hand, tell me. For example, your child has cancer, you are told that there is no chance, you would not continue to try? Would you regret a loan and a jeep for the sake of a 1% chance of recovery? After all, there are complete remissions in the last stages of cancer, which they are only now beginning to understand, and before they were a mystery, almost a miracle. If I were a doctor, and knew that the chance to cure even 95%, I would not give a guarantee since these 5% will not clearly come out or not.

                        sometimes a probability of 0.1% is a lot. This is not the case. The problem is in the structure of payment itself: a surgeon performing an operation with an insignificant chance of success - in any case, does its job. Just like a therapist, an oncologist, or some other doctor. And no one says that you do not have to pay for this work, even if all their efforts are in vain. And it’s a completely different matter - to take money for drugs that turned out to be useless, and rather big money. And no matter who pays them - the state, or the patient's relatives. It is no secret that the cost of manufacturing drugs, by and large, is cheap, the main costs are research work. Which, in fact, are covered by prohibitive drug prices. And if the medicine really helped - not a problem, life is more expensive than any amount in any currency. But taking the same money with a negative result is, from my point of view, a kind of sacrilege.
                2. papik09
                  papik09 17 July 2013 04: 19
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                  Sad but familiar situation. Something very similar happened to a friend: two years of "chemotherapy", two operations, at the end drugs for pain relief. And the doctors later said that "we tried, we tried, but alas and ah."
      3. aksakal
        aksakal 16 July 2013 15: 58
        +2
        Quote: Rumata
        No one has discovered anything fundamental since the middle of the last century.

        - You confirm it yourself. At the same time, you do not specify very skillfully, why is this happening? I admire you gentlemen Israelis laughing And here I will explain why. And I blame the Americans for this, because they are to blame for this, namely that
        Quote: Rumata
        No one has discovered anything fundamental since the middle of the last century.

        The main reason for the slowdown in the pace of scientific development is an indisputable fact, given that almost all significant discoveries were made before the 70s of the last century, due to the dominance of liberal and neoliberal economic theories and led to the fact that most of these organizations began to work to solve problems that obviously promise immediate returns.
        Notice, even by the names given in our disputes below, it is clear that conscientious scientists made discoveries in the most general, most fundamental form, and by the names of American scientists you quoted it is clear that they have extremely specific discoveries so that the result is immediately noticeable - the neutrino is there opened, specifically shorter. In modern science it is impossible to take risks and tackle a scientific problem, where you can easily not achieve results. For example, to really engage in artificial intelligence (as an option: the principles of information processing by the biological brain) is very risky - you can ruin a scientific career with the first failed grant! It is much easier to take some already proven technology, consider its current problems and solve one of them. Here you have a name, a publication, and a Nobel! Isn't that what you confirm?
        Who, by what right, decided that in science, as in finance, there are win-win options with minimal risk? SCIENCE IS NOT FINANCE! This is what happens when financiers begin to steer science. Risk management, protect. This is exactly what happened in your vaunted America! And in Russia, science crashed as a result of the death of the USSR. Well, we cannot blame the USSR for our own death, but blame the States for such a commercialization-granting of science, as a result of which most of the scientific organizations began to work on solving problems that obviously promised immediate returns - well, there to refine the software, or strengthen the chip, in short, engage in bullshit, not science,
        - here we can not only, but also MUST blame the States and dismantle the current state of things in science! There will be no breakthroughs! A scientist should not be afraid to tackle the problem of interest to him! The only way!
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 16 July 2013 16: 21
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          Quote: aksakal
          their discoveries are extremely concrete, so that the result is immediately noticeable - the neutrino discovered there, specifically shorter

          Ndya ... And if I wrote like that
          - Jack Steinberger - received the Nobel for the neutrino beam method and the proof of the doublet structure of leptons through the discovery of the muon neutrino
          or
          -Richard Feynman published fundamental work on quantum electrodynamics, which had profound implications for elementary particle physics.
          Is it less specific? And the fact that without Feyman there would be no nanotechnology, that he is one of the creators of quantum mechanics and field theory, is something changing?
          Quote: aksakal
          SCIENCE IS NOT FINANCE! That's what happens when financiers start to steer science

          What can be the profit from research in astrophysics, for example, can someone sell Black Holes? Well, if someone has found funding for what he is already doing, what's wrong with that? Everyone in Russia respects scientists, but they don’t pay any money, and then they wonder why everyone leaves.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 16 July 2013 16: 43
            +1
            Quote: Rumata
            What can be the profit from research in astrophysics, for example, can someone sell Black Holes? Well, if someone has found funding for what he is already doing, what's wrong with that? Everyone in Russia respects scientists, but they don’t pay any money, and then they wonder why everyone leaves.

            - of course, no one. The very principle of evaluating works - they gave a grant, there should be a result in the form of recognition, positive reviews and publications in a certain circle of journals, citations, etc. The money is well spent! There is no such result - you are free, your scientific career is over! Of course, you cannot sell these confessions, positive reviews and publications in a certain circle of magazines, quotations to anyone for real money, you do not really understand the very vicious principle of an indispensable positive result in response to the money invested! It's like fighting drunks on the streets as insulting public order - we collect them in a sobering-up station! How to evaluate the result of work? According to plan! The more - the better, the plan to fight drunks on the streets must be carried out! The result is that they are forcibly dragging already sober citizens there, explaining to him in an apologetic tone, like, "I'm sorry bro, our plan is on fire!" Got an analogy? Do you finally understand what? You are a true Israeli, somehow you managed to measure my post for money and even sell the Black Hole laughing Though sometimes abstract from money.
            1. Rumata
              Rumata 16 July 2013 17: 09
              +1
              Quote: aksakal
              you do not really understand the vicious principle of an indispensable positive result in response to invested money

              The USSR was hopelessly left in certain fields of science precisely because it selectively subsidized what the country or the Army needed. Often people far from science decided where to make money, that's where the plan was, and they pulled all the geniuses who, despite everything, made breakthroughs. Science is becoming more expensive, nothing can be done about it. The further humanity moves, the more resources it costs. Throwing a ball from the Leaning Tower of Pisa is much cheaper than building the Large Hadron Collider. Someone will be able to come up with a commercial application for their discovery, receive money, everyone is happy. Someone will work through universities, receive a little less money, but depend less on the result, but usually they all benefit, since many scientific discoveries have no problem using money to make money.


              For example, insulin, it used to be very expensive because it was raised in pigs and other animals. Then one smart person came up with a genetic modification of bacteria. He could focus on changing their color or shape. This man made a smart decision and tried to create bacteria synthesizing insulin, he immediately found funding, was able to open several laboratories, hire assistants. As a result, the sponsors earned billions, the insulin price fell tenfold and now it costs a penny, a fermenter technology was created that continues to develop, there was a contribution to science and many laboratories picked up the idea and began to develop it, the scientist himself and everyone who worked with him didn’t are in poverty.
              WHAT CONS ?? You can turn your nose, science for the sake of money, this was not the case under the USSR. And you can come to the conclusion that this is the most optimal way in which everyone is happy, and most of all the poor diabetics who can now buy insulin without any damage to their pockets.
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 16 July 2013 19: 05
                +1
                Quote: Rumata
                Throwing a ball from the Leaning Tower of Pisa is much cheaper than building the Large Hadron Collider.

                Throwing a ball from the Tower of Pisan is an example of working with the head, the main tool here is the human brain. The Large Hadron Collider is an example of how they try to compensate for a lack of mind with quantitative indicators, hoping that the quantity will turn into quality, but this is not necessary.
              2. aksakal
                aksakal 16 July 2013 19: 39
                +1
                Quote: Rumata
                WHAT CONS ?? You can turn your nose, science for the sake of money, this was not the case under the USSR. And you can come to the conclusion that this is the most optimal way in which everyone is happy, and most of all the poor diabetics who can now buy insulin without any damage to their pockets.
                - The USSR, of course, has excesses, genetics, cybernetics and other bourgeois sciences, there were Lysenko. Science for science or science for money? A striking example is the USSR - the famous "Altai", you know this, that mobile telephony has worked up to a commercially applicable level. That same Zimin after Altai asked the Politburo for a lot of money, to the question "why? - and modify it!", Zimin already then saw how the cellular communication should look. The Politburo did not understand why to spend money on further improvement, if mobile communications already exist and a certain circle of people (nomenclature) has already been telephoned. Why do workers need mobile communications? Let's put payphones on every corner and close the question. That was the end of it. The Americans were able to commercialize this scientific development - a different approach. We see the result. But even now we see the opposite picture - you yourself see and gave examples. Insulin, cellular technologies ... Anything that will immediately have a commercial effect, the rest of the sciences are a side effect. Example. On Intelligence author Jeff Hawkins told how he was simply not given money for research in the field of artificial intelligence. Stupidly not given, it is not interesting. Fortunately, he is a rich person, for his developments (he came up with recognition algorithms without using neural networks, on the usual von Neumann architecture, now they are used in payment terminals), he created a company and carried out scientific work. The result is mediocre, but this is my subjective IMHO, the author could not get rid of his purely computer chips and applied them to the brain, which is actually funny. But the very fact of non-financing - please read and enjoy and think - science for the sake of money is the very thing. And the truth is somewhere in between.
      4. regsSSSR
        regsSSSR 16 July 2013 16: 40
        +1
        Quote: Rumata
        Quote: Cat
        As for science in particular ... and what, in fact, has been discovered fundamental by the United States since the end of the Cold War? But nothing.

        No one has discovered anything fundamental since the middle of the last century. BUT percent 80% of research in promising areas. starting with the theory of strings and all kinds of macrocosms, and ending with genetic engineering and biotechnology, are carried out in the United States. You can talk as much as you like about the fact that they lure the best specialists to themselves with money, print dollars, but the USA is now driven by science, whatever one may say. I work in the field of creating new drugs, the vast majority of these drugs are being created in the USA, part in Europe, part in Israel, Japan is also not far behind, Russia will catch up with these countries in 40 years at best. New targeted drugs that will revolutionize medeuin in 10 years, almost all studies in the USA, again new inhibitory drugs - the USA, the list goes on and on. And so in everything connected with science and technology ...



        Well, what can I say, the rulers of money want to live forever and that's invested in medicine to the fullest !!
        and all these achievements of Amer’s science will continue to be inaccessible to simple hard workers because of the exorbitant prices for these very possessions so that it’s all very conditional and bitter to realize that EVERYTHING IS DONE ONLY FOR MONEY AND PROFIT, and as a rule, people don’t give a damn! a new arms race then colossal funds would be freed up for space programs (for example) and we would have mastered Mars for a long time !! and so one massacre in the world takes place where America stubbornly takes the 1st place of the main parasitic organism devouring other people's resources! from here they have loot for the development of eternal life, again, a current for oneself loved ones
  10. Joker
    Joker 16 July 2013 08: 39
    +7
    As for universities, they would argue that the best were in the USSR and now in Russia, respectively, although their number has declined significantly. Otherwise, you are right, never liked the policy of self-deception, it is better to take the best from others, and not to dig into their dirty laundry. Something in the USA is felled by all the crowds, but they don’t want to see us, we need to figure out why, and not try to rise in our eyes by lowering the USA. Offhand, the United States has the largest GDP in the world, like our 5, the most advanced technologies and which, moreover, do not lie in zagashniki, but are used massively by the entire population, they actually have courts and laws, about fatty nonsense, there are more of them than we do and not so many that their crowds go straight through the streets, they have the most powerful army, the best support for the unemployed and pensioners, low loan rates, high salaries. and the list goes on and on, do not forget that the Internet is American, no matter who first came up with it, they launched it to the masses first. Yes, there are a lot of jambs and they have a lot, but then what are they for, do we want to adopt jambs? They would look at what works well for them, but they would adopt it. And yet, it is not necessary to put residents of the United States and their politicians on the same scale; they themselves are not thrilled by them and according to polls most of the population for non-interference in the affairs of Syria. They just competently with the filing of politicians brainwashed. I often communicate with acquaintances from Europe and the United States and no one there wants to eat us alive, but on many issues we do not agree in opinion, but this is all their propaganda, just like ours, they don’t know what is happening in the world neither they, nor we, politicians make politicians, for a long time nothing depends on us.
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 16 July 2013 09: 24
      +2
      Quote: Joker
      Yes, there are a lot of jambs and they have, but what do we need them for, do we want to adopt jambs? They would look at what works well for them, but would adopt them.

      Unfortunately, all that they have good will not work without the bad that they have and therefore transferring it to us, in addition to our good and bad, is absurd. We ourselves need to think based on our realities how to correct the situation, and not look at the amers.
    2. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal 16 July 2013 09: 42
      +1
      Quote: Joker
      As for universities I would argue, the best were in the USSR and now in Russia, respectively


      I completely agree and agree with you! But at the same time, I will make a reservation, if it were not for the USE system, it would be even better. But one more "BUT", I did not take the exam, and therefore I do not know better or worse.
    3. Rumata
      Rumata 16 July 2013 12: 30
      -1
      Quote: Joker
      As for universities, I would argue that the best were in the USSR and now in Russia, respectively, although their number has decreased significantly.

      What are they better? From the point of view of any parameters, starting from the number of published works, prestige of graduates, patents, expenses for each student, dormitories and social programs, the number of winners of international awards (Nobel, etc.), the percentage of employment in leading companies, etc. s USA comes first. Moreover, in any ranking of universities from UNESCO to Shanghai, US universities not only hold the top ten, but also make up 90% of the first 50.
      If you do not look at the ratings (where Russian universities are rarely included in the top 100), and do not pay attention to publications, then on the basis of what are you so sure of this?
      1. Joker
        Joker 16 July 2013 12: 48
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        What are they better at?

        In the fact that our graduates occupy the first places in the world at olympiads, in the fact that there were such developments in the USSR that the USA did not even dream, to take as an example F-35, where did they get the engine from? And how many years have passed since his invention. Americans are traders and businessmen, but not scientists and not military.
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 16 July 2013 13: 12
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          Quote: Rumata
          then on the basis of what are you so sure of this?

          - personally verified! In Kazakhstan, there are already graduates of both Western and Russian universities, and local universities. About local but comments, not with you.
          But a comparison of Western and Russian graduates in terms of training various kinds of technicians - alas - Russian is a cut above Western ones. They are broader in knowledge (if a western graduate of a civil engineering university taught only the calculation of power structures, that is, a constructor-builder, then a Russian, in addition to this, knows SNiPs very well, will understand in specialized laws such as "the law on garden construction", will understand and know how to make estimates and various forms of financial reporting on construction specifics and much, much more.
          Western universities are resting, and the ratings are worthless to them, I believe my eyes and eyes, and who made these ratings? In about the same way as human rights defenders were those human rights defenders that Soyden did not come to defend? According to human rights ratings, this is visible - the USA in the first places laughing laughing wassat wassat and Russia at 200 somewhere beyond Mumba Yumba laughing That's about these authors and make your ratings laughing
          1. Rumata
            Rumata 16 July 2013 13: 31
            +1
            Quote: aksakal
            I believe my eyes

            And have you had a lot of leading students from US universities? 10? twenty? And how did you determine that they are higher in knowledge? I didn’t think that I had to prove that the US universities are better than the Russian ones, it turns out it came to that. I worked with students from Russia who came under the exchange program, and so they are VERY far behind in many areas. They study what was relevant 20 years ago, but not now. They are not even aware of the newest working techniques in laboratories; research in the last 20 years in their specialization is a dark forest. For example, the HPLC analysis, which I met at the laboratory in the first year, is not known to the first degree, they don’t even have such devices, I’m not talking about more serious crystallography. This is only a small part of what I paid attention to. The theoretical base is also lame, since everything that has been done over the past 10-15 years was not even mentioned at their lectures. Perhaps the engineers graduated are good, but in terms of science, everything is very bad.
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 16 July 2013 14: 27
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              Quote: Rumata
              I didn’t think that I had to prove that the US universities are better than the Russian ones, it turns out it came to that. I worked with students from Russia who came under the exchange program, and so they are VERY far behind in many areas
              - already work, be kind.
              Quote: Rumata
              Perhaps the engineers graduated are good, but in terms of science, everything is very bad.
              - I’m talking about this. The specifics of our economy is such, it will not go to teach a person only some very narrow specificity, albeit very good at
              Quote: Rumata
              For example, the HPLC analysis, which I met at the laboratory in the first year, is not known to the first degree, they don’t even have such devices, I’m not talking about more serious crystallography.
              - he simply will not survive and knowledge of this analysis is useless to him! Framceutics is easier with us, but a graduate should be able not only to develop medicines, evaluate them, but even sposben should be able to work in a pharmacy, if he suddenly wants it, etc.
              As for scientists - in Kazakhstan, a 3-step system has been adopted - a bachelor, these are types of medium-technical during the Soviet era, a Master (two more years after a bachelor's degree) is a type of engineer, and only after that another level for another two years, this is just for science, but their local universities do not prepare, it is under the state order (a state order is being formed from applications from departments, laboratories of corporations, research institutes and others) and applicants are sent to masters abroad. So it’s hard for me to argue over Russia, but about Kazakhstan
              Quote: Rumata
              but in terms of science, everything is very bad
              University science there is nothing to argue about because of the lack of such in Kazakhstan. And in the research institute about all these things in the know, then do not worry. That institute of combustion problems, if it is not equipped with all of the latter, at least knows and even orders something or asks for some research within the framework of cooperation. Science in the USSR has never been located in universities, universities are educational institutions, not scientific, but research institutes are just scientific. Better to let it stay like that, anyway, the risks are too great in the result of the reforms - we will lose both research institutes and nothing good in universities.
              The result - in the dispute about universities as educational institutions - the Russians are no worse (I argued this), in the dispute as scientific institutions there is no subject of dispute at all - we have universities - teaching institutions so-so, insofar as, because there was no time for students to give lectures need to read.
              1. Rumata
                Rumata 16 July 2013 15: 47
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                Quote: aksakal
                Framceutics is easier with us, but a graduate should be able not only to develop medicines, evaluate them, but even sposben should be able to work in a pharmacy, if he suddenly wants it, etc.

                This applies not only to pharmaceuticals, but also medicine or, for example, chemistry. Due to the fact that most universities do not pay attention to modern research, students come out unprepared, that is, in advance worse conditions than their counterparts from the USA, for example. Those with whom I worked were very smart guys, but they spent a lot of time, just to catch up with fellow students, and this is very difficult.
                Quote: aksakal
                As for scientists - in Kazakhstan, a 3-stage system is accepted - a bachelor, these are types of medium-technical in the days of the USSR, Master (two more years after undergraduate)

                In Israel, exactly the same. They do a bachelor's degree, for example, in chemistry. Then a master with a thesis in an already defined field of chemistry, for example, nano, then doctoral, post-dock.
                Quote: aksakal
                Science in the USSR has never been located in universities, universities are educational institutions, not scientific, but research institutes are just scientific

                There are pros and cons to this. At institutes in the West, professors are engaged in scientific research and at the same time teach. On the one hand, it can be a teacher’s energy to spend a lot of energy on students when his work is in full swing, but on the other hand, he can teach what is happening now, and not 30 years ago when textbooks were written. For example, my biotechnology teacher analyzed publications a month ago with us, and focused on what is happening now, and not what was relevant many years ago.
            2. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 16 July 2013 17: 29
              0
              Quote: Rumata
              They are not even aware of the newest working techniques in laboratories; research in the last 10 years in their specialization is a dark forest.

              And where are your famous solutions to cancer treatment, stroke ??? But there is nothing. Only idle chatter with one purpose, to strip money. Both from patients, and from probable investors. And after hanging noodles on your ears, like, sorry, it didn’t work out!
              Learn to be responsible for yourself, and it's time to forget your childhood habit of poking a finger at a neighbor.
              1. Rumata
                Rumata 16 July 2013 17: 49
                0
                Quote: Hedgehog
                And where are your famous solutions to cancer treatment, stroke ??? But there is nothing

                How not? Damn, I thought so. How sad...
                1. Ezhaak
                  Ezhaak 16 July 2013 19: 12
                  +1
                  Quote: Rumata
                  Damn, I thought so.

                  Eh, if only you could think, then you would definitely notice the surviving stroke patients on the streets and people leaving the oncology who will soon return there. It is only necessary to observe. But you don’t have time for that. It is cheaper to mumble nonsense on Russian sites, waging an ideological war against Russia.
                  In Israel, insulators even publicly try to end their lives by self-immolation from a too happy and very wealthy life. hi
                  You do not need to think, Lieberman is thinking for you.
                  1. Rumata
                    Rumata 16 July 2013 19: 58
                    +1
                    Quote: Hedgehog
                    people coming from oncology who will soon return there

                    I could describe for a very long time how chemotherapy has changed over the past 15 years, which previously untreatable types of cancer are being treated, about inhibitory drugs that stop the development and metastasis of many types of cancer in almost 9 out of 10. There is much more to say about changes in early diagnosis and a genetic predisposition to cancer, and how much this has reduced mortality. Many things. But judging by your comments, it will be an extra waste of time. On this site there are enough smart people with whom it is pleasant to discuss, you do not belong to them. So pass by
                    1. Ezhaak
                      Ezhaak 16 July 2013 20: 33
                      0
                      Quote: Rumata
                      Describe how chemotherapy has changed over the past 15 years,

                      I would love to hear a story about the use of not the weakest chemotherapy on your skin. And the one that is stronger. Talking about something untested on yourself is pointless. Translation of sounds. I would be glad to look at the interlocutor after three sessions.
                      I won’t go, I'm at home. This is my business, where to go, where not to go. And it’s not up to anyone to indicate what I should do and what to refrain from.
        2. Rumata
          Rumata 16 July 2013 13: 18
          -1
          Quote: Joker
          The fact that our graduates take first place in the world at the Olympics

          In the Olympiads, in which graduates from such universities as Berkeley or MIT do not even participate. You need to look at those projects that students do, at their publication, and not at any Intel Olympiad, in which the best American students do not even participate.
          Quote: Joker
          that in the USSR there were such developments that the USA did not even dream

          Well, in the USA there were developments that were not even dreamed of in the USSR, this is not an argument. Or do you think that the USA does not dream of developments in Russia either? Look through the projects of only one MIT and you will understand that there is no point in even comparing, the USSR is no longer there, and you all live in the past. Still Buran and Gagarina remember
      2. nerd.su
        nerd.su 16 July 2013 15: 10
        +2
        Quote: Rumata
        Moreover, in any ranking of universities from UNESCO to Shanghai, US universities not only hold the top ten, but also make up 90% of the first 50.

        Darn! The United States is tapping so much money into its universities and promoting their ratings, and at the exit:
        CPC has been sponsored by IBM since 1997. The competition involves six continents. Every year, 300000 students around the world compete at their school, and then at the regional level fight for the right to participate in the world finals. A global competition has shown that Western schools are lagging behind schools from Eastern Europe and China. This year, only one American team won medals. The last North American team to win this competition was the University of Waterloo (1998).


        What a low investment efficiency! It seems to me that in the USA not only the best democracy is flourishing, but also the highest corruption ...
    4. Setrac
      Setrac 16 July 2013 19: 08
      +2
      Quote: Joker
      I often communicate with friends from Europe and the USA, and nobody there wants to eat us alive

      These ordinary people do not want to "eat us alive", the Western elite would eat us with pleasure if they could.
  11. LaGlobal
    LaGlobal 16 July 2013 09: 39
    +1
    Quote: Rumata
    Ndya article is certainly super ... I think a similar positive list will be much longer since there will be many items ranging from the country's infrastructure, whether the Navy and ending with the best universities in the world and the largest state participation in the development of science and innovation ..


    Tell me at least one great, it is an American (if there is, of course such a nation) scientist! All scholars and prominent people, disgusting Americans, simply either stolen or somehow lured.

    Open your eyes, finally. For I am sorry for you!
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 16 July 2013 12: 47
      0
      Quote: LaGlobal
      Tell me at least one great, it is an American (if there is, of course such a nation) scientist! All scholars and prominent people, disgusting Americans, simply either stolen or somehow lured.

      I can name a lot. As an example, Dr. James Watson, a purebred American who, along with Francis Crick, made, in my opinion, the most revolutionary discovery of the 20th century.
      Also read about such great people as
      - Arthur Kronberg - discovery of the mechanisms of biological synthesis of ribonucleic and deoxyribonucleic acids
      - Richard Feynman - Quantum Electrodynamics
      - Alfred Hershey - the discovery of the replication and genetic structure of viruses
      - Stanford Moore - ribonuclease
      - Robert Wilson - microwave relic radiation, on the basis of this the Big Bang Theory was created and all that came of it
      - Walter Gilbert - DNA recombination, laid the foundation for modern biotechnology and experimental evolution
      - Jack Steinberger - neutrino
      - Edwin Krebs - I think the Krebs cycle was taught at school.
      Roger Kornberg
      - Austin Chamberlain
      Etc.
      the list goes on for a very long time. The fact that you write such nonsense speaks either of complete ignorance or of cheers-patriotism of the brain ..
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 16 July 2013 14: 48
        +1
        Quote: Rumata
        I can name a lot

        I can also name a bunch.
        Quote: Rumata
        As an example, Dr. James Watson, a purebred American who, along with Francis Crick, made, in my opinion, the most revolutionary discovery of the 20th century.

        - scientists of the highest echelon? Kolmogorov, Landau, Mandelstamm, Kapitsa how do you like? This is only in the SSR about an earlier period - there are Mendeleev, and Lomonosov, and Kovalevskaya and a bunch more!
        Quote: Rumata
        Arthur Kronberg - discovery of the mechanisms of biological synthesis of ribonucleic and deoxyribonucleic acids - Richard Feynman - quantum electrodynamics - Alfred Hershey - discovery of the replication and genetic structure of viruses - Stanford Moore - ribonuclease

        - scientists of the first echelon? Yes please! Arnold V.I., Steklov, Keldysh, physicists Basov, Prokhorov, Denisov, Alferov and a bunch more. About an earlier period - there are Chebyshev, and Lyapunov, and Butlerov, and a bunch more. What surprised you?
        Separately by graphene authors. This is a TYPICAL theft. When, for direct costs, 95% of the research was carried out within the walls of the Research Institute of Nizhny Novgorod, and for indirect costs, these two "scientists" not only studied for free, but also received a scholarship, and the Americans provided them with housing and a laboratory, and based on 5% of the completed studies they wrote what you are praising here - praise further. And this is a typical theft. And not only in Russia - there are a lot of Indians, Chinese, Latinos. Here is such a science! There is nothing special to boast about, impresses stupid people, outrages smart people.
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 16 July 2013 15: 58
          +1
          Quote: aksakal
          - scientists of the highest echelon? Kolmogorov, Landau, Mandelstamm, Kapitsa how do you like? This is only in the SSR about an earlier period - there are Mendeleev, and Lomonosov, and Kovalevskaya and a bunch more!

          Not when I did not say that there were no great scientists in the USSR, on the contrary, the USSR was a forge of geniuses no less than the United States. This was my answer to the fact that there were no great American scientists in the USA, although in fact, among the 300+ Nobel laureates from the USA, most were born in the USA.
          Quote: aksakal
          Here it is, Amer’s science! There’s nothing special to boast about, stupid people are impressive, smart people are indignant.

          Firstly, there is a difference between stealing something 90% ready-made, or helping someone realize an idea. For example, if a Hindu in India came up with the ingenious idea of ​​a new processor, he tried to implement it in India for a year, two or three, but without success. He was invited to the USA and there he did everything in a couple of years. Is this considered a theft from India of a brilliant idea?
          From whom, by the way, Watson stole the idea of ​​DNA? Also in Russia, I suppose? Probably Krebs, working all his life on the metabolism of the cell, as a result, he stole something from someone, he is an American scientist, and they are all awkward.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 16 July 2013 16: 18
            0
            Quote: Rumata
            Is this considered a theft from India of a brilliant idea? From whom, by the way, Watson stole the idea of ​​DNA? Also in Russia, I suppose? Probably Krebs, working all his life on the metabolism of the cell, as a result, he stole something from someone, he is an American scientist, and they are all awkward.

            - did not deny that these are scientists of the highest echelon, re-reading the post. And here is what American scientists have led science, re-read my post above. And object, if there is anything to object. Amer is to blame for the slowdown in science - this is another charge against me, and the rationale read above in response to your previous post. This is in addition to the fact that 90% of American developments are 90% of the development of immigrants from other countries, just
            Quote: Rumata
            he tried to realize in a year, two, three in India
            or simply for the most expensive last 10 or even 5% (most often this is a full-scale experiment with subsequent fine-tuning according to the results obtained) there is a banal lack of dough! And the Americans are sitting on a printing press, it costs them nothing. So the conditions are put forward - you want to finalize, move to us, get citizenship and modify, we will provide everyone with a hut and a laboratory. Only condition - as citizens of America, the result of your scientific development will be considered American development.
            1. Rumata
              Rumata 16 July 2013 16: 37
              +2
              Quote: aksakal
              Amer is to blame for the slowdown of science - this is another of my accusations against them

              Is science slowing down? And I was sure that we were on the verge of a third scientific revolution. Compare how science has progressed over the past 40 years, it's the same crazy pace in all areas. Now the time is different, many modern discoveries, 60 years ago would have made a noise no worse than Einstein and Watson, just then it happened slowly but rarely, and now there is a stable constant process. But if you expect the creation of teleportation, hyper-jumps and gravity-tsap, then by itself, nothing happens for you.
              For example, the Yamanaki group were able to return specialized cells to embryonic ones. You may have heard about this briefly, and then because of the Nobel Prize, but this is a real revolution that will help us grow organs for transplantation, treat hopeless patients and even grow lost teeth without any prostheses. And this is useful for the layman, from the point of view of science this is a definite breakthrough.
              1. Cat
                Cat 16 July 2013 16: 55
                0
                Quote: Rumata
                For example, the Yamanaki group were able to return specialized cells to embryonic ones. You may have heard about this briefly, and then because of the Nobel Prize, but this is a real revolution that will help us grow organs for transplantation, treat hopeless patients and even grow lost teeth without any prostheses. And this is useful for the layman, from the point of view of science this is a definite breakthrough.

                As for the usefulness for the layman, you obviously got excited. For elected quite possibly, but for mere mortals ... even if suddenly, then in a very distant future. The same warriors in this regard look much better with their dual-use technologies - which are quickly transferred to, so to speak, the national economy.

                Again, Yamanaki is Japanese, even if he worked for some time in the States. The basis for his research was the work of the Englishman. What side is the USA here?
                1. Rumata
                  Rumata 16 July 2013 17: 15
                  +1
                  Quote: Cat
                  For the elect it’s possible, but for mere mortals ...

                  Well, penicillin once also cost a lot, the first computers occupied an entire floor and cost like a factory. In the beginning it will be expensive. Then it will become cheaper.
                  Quote: Cat
                  Again, Yamanaki is Japanese, even if he worked for some time in the States. The basis for his research was the work of the Englishman. What side is the USA here?

                  I gave this as an example of the fact that science is not slowing down. The first thing that came to mind is Yamanaki, I can dash here about the USA, a bunch of examples =)
                  1. aksakal
                    aksakal 17 July 2013 00: 17
                    0
                    Quote: Rumata
                    Well, penicillin once also cost a lot,
                    - you made laugh about penicillin laughing The penicillin technology was immediately available, it practically did not change, its prime cost was very low. But penicillin was very expensive, why? Yes, they wanted to pick up the cabbage, but more !!!! The Second World War was on, people were dying. Soviet wars perished from banal sepsis - it seems that the wound is non-fatal, but the mortal girl is approaching the soldier. At the same time, Soviet soldiers died, saving the same Americans and Jews from brown adversity, while the Americans at the same time tried to boil frantically on penicillin. This is such marketing - well, let's wait, another millionth of the soldiers will lose from infection, maybe they will reach them, that they need to fork out. How do you like the level of cynicism? Like? And you still protect all this? Yes, it’s not needed for nothing, you urgently need to revive your science, not at such a level of cynicism. And the Americans and the atomic bomb for the Japanese (well, if Yap has a short memory, what can you do?), And this story with penicillin, and the story of the Holodomor we will not only remember for a long time - ETERNALLY, even if we do not hope!
              2. aksakal
                aksakal 16 July 2013 16: 57
                0
                Quote: Rumata
                Is science slowing down? And I was sure that we were on the verge of a third scientific revolution. Compare how science has progressed over the past 40 years, it's a crazy pace in all areas

                and right here is yours:
                Quote: Rumata
                No one has discovered anything fundamental since the middle of the last century.

                - So which Rumata is right? First or second?
                I think the second. Because no one has discovered anything since the middle of the last century. And I explain why there. The principle of the organization of science according to the "financial" model is to blame. But
                Quote: Rumata
                For example, the Yamanaki group were able to return specialized cells to embryonic ones. You may have heard about this briefly, and then because of the Nobel Prize, but this is a real revolution that will help us grow organs for transplantation, treat hopeless patients and even grow lost teeth without any prostheses. And this is useful for the layman, from the point of view of science, this is a definite breakthrough
                - this is technology, or rather, on the border of science and technology, I’m very happy, but this is not science! Science is when there is an exhaustive explanation of why and by what mechanisms and generally how specialized cells return to embryonic cells. If this scientific theory were created, then in general for all other cellular technologies no questions would have already arisen, we would have seriously looked at the possibility of immortality, etc. And so, on the basis of numerous empirical observations and empirical conclusions, to get an experiment, to obtain a technological result, even at a speculative level, not knowing how all this transformation takes place, well done, of course, but do not confuse science with technology.
                1. Rumata
                  Rumata 16 July 2013 17: 41
                  0
                  Quote: aksakal
                  - So which Rumata is right? First or second?
                  I think the second. Because no one has discovered anything since the middle of the last century. And I explain why there. The principle of the organization of science according to the "financial" model is to blame. But

                  It starts to tire. I write one you read another. I did not say that ANYTHING was DISCOVERED, there are no fundamental breakthroughs, such as the Theory of Evolution or The Theory of Relativity. There are no such breakthroughs, or we do not feel them against the background of a furious increase in the pace of development of science.
                  Quote: aksakal
                  Science is when there is an exhaustive explanation of why and by what mechanisms and generally how specialized cells return to embryonic

                  In science, an exhaustive answer by definition is not possible. Thus, Newton created his laws of mechanics, which were exhaustive for many years. Then they sharply became only an example at low speeds of Einstein's more extensive theory. It is about the reason that the mechanics of Newton could not explain many points. The theory of relativity was discovered.
                  Since you were interested in the question I will describe in more detail about Yamanaka
                  They did not poke at random hoping to get a result, they worked on 4 specific proteins that are involved in the specialization of the cell, they were able to explain many aspects of this process, finish the sequencing of the proteins, find the places where they join the DNA and how the cell activates them, they were able to introduce genes from one cell to another and activate their expression, received pluripotent cells. Of course, there are no answers to all questions, but to call it not a science is nonsense. To call meaningful manipulations at the molecular level empirical observations is even more nonsense ..
                  1. aksakal
                    aksakal 16 July 2013 20: 24
                    0
                    Quote: Rumata
                    I did not say that ANYTHING was DISCOVERED, there are no fundamental breakthroughs such as, for example, Theory of Evolution or Theory of Relativity

                    - Listen, I am this
                    Quote: Rumata
                    No one has discovered anything fundamental since the middle of the last century.

                    Quote: Rumata
                    I didn’t say that they did NOT DISCOVER ANYTHING
                    - I read exactly what you post. Well, we will assume that you have recovered.
                    I’m just telling you then, since you are already beginning to bustle, correct yourself, and so on, I’m just trying to convey the idea - this:
                    Quote: Rumata
                    or we don’t feel them against the background of a furious increase in the pace of development of science
                    - simply no! There is NO rabid increase! No breakthroughs! Precisely because they do not exist, because of the very complex problems - what is living, how the brain works and how the intellect functions, how the Universe and the fundamental theory of self-organization are created - no one wants to do it and no one takes it. Even such a super task is not posed before science! Above, I gave an example with Jeff Hawkins, read, he is not the only one even in the super-generous science of America! You give an example of small discoveries in the process of cellular manipulations as an example of science, I say - in terms of scale this does not lie next to the discoveries of the beginning or the middle of the last century. Will you seriously deny it? Based on the scale of the deed, I don’t put it on science - too finely, very sophisticated technology - I agree, but not SCIENCE! The scope of the discoveries is not the same!
                    Quote: Rumata
                    explain many points of this process,
                    - Yes, you compare with the Einstein theory and the theory of the founders of nuclear physics in scale! Grinding computer technology, grinding cell and biotechnology is called science! laughing laughing Yes, American science only deals with this, for it senses that money is there, and the rest is not interesting to it!
                    The American science management system has led science to a standstill! Perhaps the Soviet lagged behind the intervention of ideology (such as down with the bourgeois sciences), but did not lead to a dead end! With such a system, there will be no breakthroughs, do not even wait. There is hope in the field of artificial intelligence that the US military will be able to somehow stimulate scientists, because they want a smart robot soldier (the Israelis are no less), but something has not been moving for how many years. And then worse - all science will squander only up to information and biological technologies, but what about a qualitative breakthrough?
                    1. Rumata
                      Rumata 16 July 2013 20: 38
                      0
                      Quote: aksakal
                      There is NO rabid increase! No breakthroughs! Precisely because they are not, because of the very complex problems

                      Maybe there are no historical breakthroughs comparable with Einstein or Curie. But I do not agree that there is no increase in the pace of development of science. I do not agree that science stands still, doing science, reading publications, communicating with colleagues, I don’t feel this, on the contrary, everything is gaining momentum at a frantic pace. You do not agree with me, so everyone will remain with their opinion =)
                    2. aksakal
                      aksakal 17 July 2013 00: 02
                      0
                      Quote: Rumata
                      Maybe there are no historical breakthroughs comparable with Einstein or Curie. But I do not agree that there is no increase in the pace of development of science. I do not agree that science stands still, doing science, reading publications, communicating with colleagues, I don’t feel this, on the contrary, everything is gaining momentum at a frantic pace. You do not agree with me, so everyone will remain with their opinion =)

                      - There are no breakthroughs, while the pace of the development of science is increasing laughing Logical dissonance however. Commercial science is gaining momentum, and as in your example, it will create something on the basis of accumulated empirical material (and this material has been accumulated in large quantities), not at all going to explain the phenomena on the basis of which it will create something effective and terribly profitable, and even set such a goal will not. It’s like an entrepreneur organizing people, creating something effective and terribly profitable with the help of their activity, knowing for sure that these people understood his idea and understand his instructions in the course of work, but at the same time this entrepreneur doesn’t exactly set out to understand how people , with the help of what processes in their brain, UNDERSTAND it and reasonably follow its instructions. He does not need to know this, he is based on accurate empirical knowledge that people understand him, this is enough for him. Your science, which is gaining a frantic pace, is moving exactly along this path. Is it science at all? Or another example - non-contact forms of hand-to-hand combat of Russian special forces, serious organizations took part in the development, including the Brain Institute named after Ankylosing spondylitis and even academician Ankylosing spondylitis itself took part in this. It is clear that all these phenomena, on the basis of which the system of hand-to-hand combat was created, have no explanations, but as empirical material this is used for very specific applied tasks, that is, for training special forces, that is, it is used, despite the lack of scientific justification. But this is not science!
                    3. Rumata
                      Rumata 17 July 2013 07: 39
                      +1
                      Quote: aksakal
                      There are no breakthroughs, but the rate of DEVELOPMENT of science at the same time increases laughing Logical dissonance however.

                      Again - twenty-five. I write that there are no HISTORICAL BREAKTHROUGHS OF THE EINSTEIN LEVEL, and you read this as there are no breakthroughs at all ... Just because there are many breakthroughs, I say that science is developing, these breakthroughs are simply not interesting to ordinary people who are far from this field of science. For example, in my field, after the project of the human genome was completed, a huge number of breakthroughs appeared in ten years. None of them made as much noise as Einstein's Theory, but still many of them made the most real revolution. We use plasmids in all systems, we create recombinant antibodies, our own working bio-motors, DNA-based room temperature conductors, and this is just the tip of the iceberg, we can go on for a long time. Even 20 years ago, it was all the level of science fiction, we defined the functionality of "junk DNA", this is a huge breakthrough that can hardly be overestimated, but few have heard about it and have not talked much about it on TV, the time is like that. And your understanding of science makes me cognitive dissonance
            2. FRIGATE2
              FRIGATE2 17 July 2013 07: 40
              +4
              Quote: aksakal
              - So which Rumata is right? First or second?

              If you are an elderly person, then you should be ashamed.
              I read your comments, I am also ashamed of my nation - Kazakh, that is, you.
              You shamefully proved to be an ignoramus
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 16 July 2013 19: 16
        0
        Quote: Rumata
        300+ US Nobel Laureates

        Let's remember the Nobel Peace Prize, the Nobel in the coffin probably turned upside down.
  12. Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 16 July 2013 19: 34
    0
    But, specifically, far from the Americans gave the US a television, a helicopter, and even Stealth theory. Oh, how smart they are. Try to insert a neutrino or a piece of ribonuclease into your butt, no effect, but the effect from the TV will be very huge!
  • SASCHAmIXEEW
    SASCHAmIXEEW 16 July 2013 16: 05
    0
    And in all this, it is better where we are not, I do not believe !! There is a saying: Tried, made sure! I don’t believe a word until I see it myself! And all these praises are pure propaganda !! Watching their films, they don’t live so sweetly ... He will make a smart conclusion, and he will always be true ...
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 16 July 2013 08: 30
    +3
    It seems that the author has missed one more point: whom and how many billion dollars they robbed, and robbed more than half of the world. And now they are confidently rolling down the slope, there they care!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 16 July 2013 11: 38
      +2
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      And now they are confidently rolling downhill, there they are dear!


      "Once David Copperfield covered the Statue of Liberty with a veil and it disappeared!
      “A miracle,” people thought.
      - Not a fig for myself, - thought Copperfield. "(C)
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 16 July 2013 12: 53
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        Once David Copperfield covered the Statue of Liberty with a veil and it disappeared!

        Helen, hi ! next time, let him cover the United States with a veil, then the whole world will exclaim - Miracle! And the Americans - Nevermind!
  • Corsair
    Corsair 16 July 2013 08: 31
    +2
    . Fast Food Production In 2000, US consumers spent about $ 110 billion on fast food, and in 1970 only 6 billion.

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  • waisson
    waisson 16 July 2013 08: 35
    +2
    interesting statistics something that I found in it for myself. but as well, the fellows of the planet all, God forbid we be in their place
  • Svarog
    Svarog 16 July 2013 08: 58
    +1
    One could add Russia, otherwise :(. At least approximate numbers in these ratings
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 16 July 2013 09: 14
    +1
    Do not just forget that all these statistics refer only to ordinary Americans, they were specially brought to such a state, because it is much easier to manage them, they seem to be told: “Why do you need to get into some kind of geopolitics? Why do you need to know where we are sending troops? ... Don't think about it, go to McDonald's, have a drink of soda, then go home, look at house 2 or whatever they have, and we'll take care of these boring things like economics, politics and other rubbish. " Moreover, in America, for sure, there are normal people, just the cries of pig people drown out common sense. This is an average American, what they want to turn the Russian people into, and as you can see from the same TV, the work is being stubborn and systematic, we already have our own "Americans".
  • niecke
    niecke 16 July 2013 09: 19
    +2
    and no one was surprised that we weren’t in comparison? against the background of all of them, we look no better! but everything comes out as if we were out of competition!
    1. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal 16 July 2013 09: 47
      0
      Quote: niecke
      and no one was surprised that we weren’t in comparison? against the background of all of them, we look no better! but everything comes out as if we were out of competition!


      No one! For these are statistics comparing the United States and geyropov! And why do you think that we should be present in these statistics?

      I now believe that our COUNTRY is better than any country in the world, and above all in relation to each other, in terms of humanity. And no one can convince me of this!
      1. Joker
        Joker 16 July 2013 12: 52
        0
        better than any country in the world and above all with respect to each other,

        A controversial statement, I do not think so, in the USSR maybe, but certainly not now. We have our own interests more important than others, and this is 100% true, this is the type of music with music deep past midnight, swine behavior on the streets.
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 16 July 2013 19: 30
      0
      Quote: niecke
      and no one was surprised that we weren’t in comparison? against the background of all of them, we look no better! but everything comes out as if we were out of competition!

      There are not many in statistics, they are not in the top ten, maybe we are the eleventh, or maybe the fifties.
  • knn54
    knn54 16 July 2013 09: 27
    +4
    The country is a leader in gay parades.
    PS "They are the blind, leading the blind. But if the blind leads the blind, then both of them will fall into the pit." New Testament
  • Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 16 July 2013 09: 31
    0
    Quote: Alexej
    that the states are the first in the world to falsify

    Regarding the "girl-ON" - MOST OF ALL IS REALITY ..
  • Smersh
    Smersh 16 July 2013 09: 31
    +1
    happy that these tables do not have Russia
  • Muadipus
    Muadipus 16 July 2013 09: 32
    0
    17. Leaders in the number of people with mental disorders. Every fifth adult has mental disabilities

    24. The first country in the world in the number of idiotic laws

    And These people, teach the whole world to live.

    Yankees are evil !!!
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 16 July 2013 16: 43
      0
      And what does the people have to do with it, just like the Juda-Zionist warriors fool us! It’s time to drive from power all these mendels, chubais and grefs with dvarkoviches with a filthy broom !!!
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 16 July 2013 19: 32
        0
        Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
        And what does the people have to do with it, just like the Juda-Zionist warriors fool us! It’s time to drive from power all these mendels, chubais and grefs with dvarkoviches with a filthy broom !!!

        Apparently, the Americans understand this, not for nothing the United States - in the leaders in the number of weapons per capita, perhaps the Americans will still surprise everyone, not only Russians to fight evil.
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 16 July 2013 09: 36
    0
    Joker SU
    ... Something in the USA is being felled by crowds, but they don’t want to come to us, we need to figure out why, and not try to rise in our eyes by lowering the USA

    "Crowds knock down" those who piously believe in the AMERICOS PARADISE! And those who already live there, having immigrated in the 90s, are already BRAINING, as it were, to dump from there and not to some other kind of PARADISE, but to Russia-MOTHER. Of course not all of them, but there are enough people willing to return.
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 16 July 2013 16: 51
      0
      And who escaped, mostly Jews, went to Israel, but ended up in sassch! In general, it’s free will ..! And back, I would not accept them !!!
  • LaGlobal
    LaGlobal 16 July 2013 09: 44
    +1
    Quote: waisson
    interesting statistics something that I found in it for myself. but as well, the fellows of the planet all, God forbid we be in their place

    We won’t be like that, comrade! drinks
  • Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 16 July 2013 09: 48
    0
    States is universal evil
  • honest jew
    honest jew 16 July 2013 09: 52
    +3
    - Russia entered the top 10 countries with the highest terrorist threat. Source: Global Terrorist Threat Index
    - In Moscow maternity hospitals in 30% of cases migrants give birth. Source: Director of the Institute for Demographic Research, Igor Beloborodov
    - Siberia and the Far East are ready to become uninhabited. 40% of the residents of the Far East and Siberia want to leave the region due to high cost, drug addiction, alcoholism, social unsettledness and lack of prospects. Source: VTsIOM
    - According to various estimates, from 17% to 30% of citizens want to leave Russia forever. Sources: Public Opinion Foundation and Romir Analytical Holding
    - The natural decline in the Slavic regions amounted to approximately 92 thousand people. Regions with natural growth: Chechnya, Tuva, Altai (Ingushetia is approaching). Source: Director of the Institute for Demographic Research, Igor Beloborodov
    - Russian cities took 40% of the places in the international ranking of the most endangered cities. In the rating of the most developing cities, not a single city in the Russian Federation was included. (5th place: Nizhniy Novgorod - reduction of 11,76%; 6th place: Saratov - reduction of 11,54%, 9th place of Perm - reduction of 9,67%, etc.). Source: UN report "State of the World's Cities 2012/2013"
    - More than 7,5 thousand strategic nuclear warheads have been deactivated. Source: Media based on analysis of the disarmament program.
    - About a thousand intercontinental ballistic missiles have been eliminated. Source: Media based on analysis of the disarmament program.
    - 33 nuclear submarines destroyed. Source: Media based on analysis of the disarmament program.
    - Corruption among civil servants in the army has grown 2,5 times over the year. Moreover, the statistics do not yet take into account the damage in the criminal case of Oboronservis, which has already reached 6,7 billion rubles. Source: Head of the Main Military Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation Alexander Sorochkin
    - Russia took 92nd place out of 97 countries in the ranking of compliance with the concept of the “rule of law”. Source: World Justice Project
    - The Russian Federation was in 88th place in terms of democracy, ahead of Nigeria (there are 104 countries in the list). Source: Democracy Ranking Association
    - Russia took 172nd place in terms of freedom of the press. Source: Freedom House Rating
    - from January 2013, the salary for employees of investigative committees grows by 100% and another 75% until October 2013, a total increase of 175% is planned. Source: United Russia
    - For "maintaining order" at rallies in May, employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and military 55 were awarded a total of 300 million rubles. Source: Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin
    - Signed a law to create a list of sites with prohibited content. For further blocking in Russia. The list may include all websites of opposition organizations and independent media. Source: RIA NEWS
    - More than 2000 sites (or more than 96% of all resources on the black list) are listed in the Registry and are blocked illegally. Source: RosKomSvoboda experts
    1. sevtrash
      sevtrash 16 July 2013 10: 34
      +1
      Something I do not believe an honest Jew.

      Working links, please.
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 16 July 2013 19: 37
      0
      Quote: Honest Jew
      - Russia entered the top 10 countries with the highest terrorist threat.

      I would like to clarify who sponsors the terrorists! America is the first sponsor. Britain is the second.
      1. Cat
        Cat 16 July 2013 19: 41
        +1
        Quote: Setrac
        Quote: Honest Jew
        - Russia entered the top 10 countries with the highest terrorist threat.

        I would like to clarify who sponsors the terrorists! America is the first sponsor. Britain is the second.

        that’s why they put Russia in the top ten - on the basis of the State Department’s expense sheet =)
  • honest jew
    honest jew 16 July 2013 09: 53
    +5
    STANDARD OF LIVING

    - Incomes below the subsistence level were 17,7 million people (12,5% ​​of Russians). Source: Doctor of Economics, Director of the Institute for Globalization Issues - Mikhail Delyagin
    - From January 1, 2013, the government set the minimum wage in the amount of 5 rubles. Source: Doctor of Economics, Director of the Institute for Globalization Issues - Mikhail Delyagin
    - About 80% of Russia's population lives on poverty. Source: Doctor of Economics, Director of the Institute for the Problems of Globalization - Mikhail Delyagin
    - The richest people in Russia: Alisher Usmanov, 18 billion dollars; Leonid Mikhelson, 16,9 billion; Victor Vekselberg, 18,8; Vladimir Lisin, 16,7 billion; Alexey Mordashov, 15 billion (48); Roman Abramovich, 14,7 billion; Mikhail Prokhorov, 13,9 billion; Vladimir Potanin, 13,8 billion; Vagit Alekperov, 12,4 billion; Andrey Melnichenko, 12 billion. Source: Doctor of Economics, Director of the Institute for the Problems of Globalization - Mikhail Delyagin with reference to Bloomberg Markets
    - In terms of the tax burden on business, Russia has bypassed almost all major economically developed countries and managed to come out on top in Europe. Source: experts of the audit and consulting company PWC
    - Increased insurance premiums for individual entrepreneurs by 2 times. Thousands of small IPs will be forced to close. Source: NSN with reference to the State Duma
    - On December 23, 1210 people suffered from frosts, 538 of them were taken to the hospital, 88 people died. Source: RIA Novosti with reference to the source in the medical services
    - Real estate prices in Russia exceeded prices in the US and Europe. Source: International Real Estate Agent
    - For five years, five housing and communal services tariffs increased by 117%, and inflation amounted to 63%. Source: media, citing own sources
    - In Russia, at least 3 alcoholics. Source: Head of Rospotrebnadzor, Chief Sanitary Doctor of Russia Gennady Onishchenko
    - According to official figures, there are at least 4 unemployed in Russia. Source: Rosstat
    - By 2015, the costs of Russians in housing and communal services will increase by a third. Such measures are necessary, according to the Ministry of Regional Development. Source: Head of Rospotrebnadzor, Chief Sanitary Doctor of Russia Gennady Onishchenko
    - In 11 regions of Russia, all the signs of a full-fledged financial and economic crisis are recorded. Source: Finmarket Agency.
    - Over the past 5 years, the number of people infected with HIV has doubled. Source: Head of the Federal Scientific and Methodological Center for the Prevention and Control of AIDS Vadim Pokrovsky
  • honest jew
    honest jew 16 July 2013 09: 54
    +1
    WHERE MONEY LOSES (SEVERAL EXAMPLES)

    - In St. Petersburg, 600 km of unusable pipes were laid (total cost of 3 billion rubles). Source: City Ministry of Emergency Situations
    - In Moscow, waste of 15 billion rubles was revealed. in the preparation of documents for the construction and repair of roads. Source: Moscow Audit Chamber
    - The development program for the Caucasus has been approved; 2,5 trillion rubles will be spent. Source: Media, citing the Russian government.
    - The damage from corruption in the Caucasus amounted to more than 500 million per year. Source: Head of the Department for Supervision of the Investigative Investigation and Procedural Activities of the Office of the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation in the North Caucasus Federal District Alexey Vasilkov
    - $ 2 million were donated to the African Union Peace Fund. Source: Media with reference to the instructions of V. Putin
    - In the State Duma 39 dollar millionaires "serve the people". 23 of them are members of the United Russia party. Source: website of the lower house of parliament
    - Debts of the North Caucasus to power engineers exceed 60 billion rubles. Source: Media, citing Minister of Energy Alexander Novak
    - The total debt of the republics of the North Caucasus for gas amounted to 41 billion rubles. Source: media, citing official representatives of the heads of republics
    - In the Russian Federation there are 416 official billionaires. Source: Federal Tax Service
    - Russia has written off debts worth more than $ 20 billion to African countries. Source: Director of the Department of International Organizations of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Vladimir Sergeev
    - In recent years, the Russian Federation has forgiven $ 86 billion of external debt. Source: DPNI.org with reference to a summary analysis of open sources
    - The average bribe level has grown by 33 times. Experts call the figure of 300 thousand rubles. Employees procurators in 60 thousand rubles. Sources: The annual report of the Clean Hands anti-corruption reception office and the Department of Economic Security and Anti-Corruption (GUEBiPK) of the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs
    - 53 million rubles were stolen on state contracts for the maintenance of military towns. Source: Press Center of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia
    - The State Duma has spent more than 3 million for the purchase of tablets for deputies. Source: GosZakaz website
    - About 2 billion rubles were stolen from funds for the development of GLONASS. Source: Moscow police press service
    - The program for the sale of major state-owned companies has been approved. The privatization program provides for the transfer to private ownership by 2016 of 12 large companies, including Rosneft, VTB, RusHydro, Aeroflot, as well as partial privatization of Russian Railways, Transneft and other state assets. Source: media with a link on government
    - Putin said that a separate fund will be formed for the development of socially significant Internet projects. The fund’s budget will amount to hundreds of millions of rubles. Source: Media with reference to Putin
    - Of the budgetary funds allocated for public procurement, 1 trillion rubles are stolen. Source: Media, citing Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.
  • honest jew
    honest jew 16 July 2013 09: 54
    +2
    ARMY

    - More than 7,5 thousand strategic nuclear warheads have been deactivated. Source: Media based on analysis of the disarmament program.
    - About a thousand intercontinental ballistic missiles have been eliminated. Source: Media based on analysis of the disarmament program.
    - 33 nuclear submarines destroyed. Source: Media based on analysis of the disarmament program.
    - Corruption among civil servants in the army has grown 2,5 times over the year. Moreover, the statistics do not yet take into account the damage in the criminal case of Oboronservis, which has already reached 6,7 billion rubles. Source: Head of the Main Military Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation Alexander Sorochkin
    - The Russian Defense Ministry plans to disband 161 arsenals, where ammunition and missiles were stored, 29 have already been reduced, the rest will be disbanded by 2014. Source: Head of the Main Rocket and Artillery Directorate (GRAU) of the Ministry Major General Nikolai Parshin
    - In total for January-September of the current year, 1 criminal cases of corruption in the army were in the production of military investigative bodies of the RF IC. Most of them are prosecuted for fraud, forgery, bribes, embezzlement and embezzlement. Source: Head of the Main Rocket and Artillery Directorate (GRAU) of the Ministry, Major General Nikolai Parshin
    - In Ulyanovsk, the NATO base has been launched. Source: Russian Foreign Ministry
    - The number of murders in the Russian army increased by 53%. The number of bribes doubled, the number of facts of drug trafficking increased by more than a quarter. Source: Chief Military Prosecutor Sergei Fridinsky at the Board of the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation
    - The Chinese are allowed aerial photography of the border regions of the Russian Federation. Source: Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev
    - Kazakhstan announced that it wants to take Baikonur from Russia. Source: Head of Kazcosmos Talgat Musabaev
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 16 July 2013 19: 41
      -1
      An honest Jew is as honest as the source to which he refers
      Quote: Honest Jew
      Source: Media

      I’ll clarify, is it the Jewish media?
    2. aksakal
      aksakal 17 July 2013 00: 27
      0
      Quote: Honest Jew
      Kazakhstan announced that it wants to take Baikonur from Russia. Source: Head of Kazcosmos Talgat Musabaev
      - here it is misleading, does not even blush laughing Truly "an honest Jew" is the same as a "soft diamond" or "useful poison". Do you at least read something, on this topic, what exactly Talgat Musabayev had in mind. There, the city itself will be returned under the jurisdiction of Kazakhstan, while leaving behind Russia all those buildings that it uses in its activities at Baikonur on unchanged conditions and the Cosmodrome itself! After all, this is a relief for Russia - the city is rather big there, social services and housing and communal services around the city are a separate front of costs, so Kazakhstan simply takes the city for itself, that's all! And how is it presented by you?
  • honest jew
    honest jew 16 July 2013 09: 55
    +1
    ECOLOGY
    - 100 billion tons of various wastes accumulated, including toxic. Source: Federation Council
    - Due to the systematic plundering of money from the budget, Krymsk was flooded, hundreds of people died, thousands were left without housing. The real death toll is hiding. Material damage is practically not compensated. Source: data from volunteers.
    - The warehouse of the Aktash Mining and Metallurgical Company, which still stores 140 tons of toxic chemicals, was dismantled, and the metal barrels were in the open. Source: media with links to local residents

    Putin is confident that if the "established" course continues in the coming Russia, more than 50 million will die. In his article on social policy, Putin writes that if the current state of affairs continues, the country's population will decrease from 2050 million to 143 million by 107.
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 16 July 2013 16: 59
      -1
      And all this was done by the Judaism !!! Would you go far away from RUSSIA !!! And then, after all, it will famously wake up ... and there will be no place for Judaists on the earth!
  • honest jew
    honest jew 16 July 2013 10: 01
    +2
    And you say America ....
    1. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 16 July 2013 11: 52
      0
      Listen, honest Jew, we already know everything, there are a lot of you in life, in the world, you have done so much "good" for Russia, let's at least limit your presence on the site! Have you described all the troubles of Russia here? Who is to blame for this do not want to educate? Then I will enlighten. You instilled Western pseudo "values" in Russia, your dead-end model of economic development, which ruined the country, as a result there was corruption on a national scale, theft and betrayal of national interests (I list your Western national characteristics), hence the impoverishment of the people and in excess of profits for the elite, the collapse of industry , army and navy, housing and communal services and other industries as a result, etc. How can we get rid of you and follow our correct Russian path of development? Already back off please, zi!
      1. Joker
        Joker 16 July 2013 12: 57
        +3
        Ruslan, isn’t it their own Judas who sold the USSR? Is it not Russian for jeans with pepsicola sold? The Jews, of course, love to teach others and bite, but we all collapsed ourselves and with our help, even if it consisted in the amorphousness of our behavior. Of course, the United States helped with money, but it was not the Americans who were falling apart, but Russians who were greedy for money, but we always have such people.
        1. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 16 July 2013 13: 24
          -1
          I do not remove responsibility from our Judas, Grabachev, Yeltsin, Chubais, oligarchs "in a month", but only from Judas, since the Russian people, due to their mentality, innate natural decency and kindness, were not ready for the wild capitalism that was imposed on them, for that rubbish that crawled to us from behind the hill with the sole purpose of destroying the country, driving it into the Stone Age, and privatizing all the wealth with the help of ours or theirs - but scoundrels. And you are right, these "people", these "Judas", "wielding" and now. And about this Jew - I am annoyed that it is those who are to blame for the collapse of Russia who are poking their noses at us - accusing them of the crimes of which they are "liberals-democrats" who are fucking guilty.
        2. Setrac
          Setrac 16 July 2013 19: 47
          0
          Quote: Joker
          but it’s not the Americans who collapsed, but the Russian money-hungry

          Is this a hoax, a lot in the above list of the richest in Russia - Russian surnames?
          Quote: Joker
          money-hungry Russians

          Where are the Jews there! Here are the silver plots that are still to be found.
          You are here to us, to put it mildly, sculpt a hunchback without any hesitation.
  • Letterksi
    Letterksi 16 July 2013 10: 07
    0
    I'm not interested in amers. All these numbers go on the Internet and are transformed like rumors. For example, I met that amers consume 40% of the extracted resources, and not 30% as it is written here. But from this the essence does not change, I do not care to amers. Our people have a bad habit of using the West as a reference for comparison. And for the most part there is nothing to compare because. Firstly, we simply do not keep many of the statistics cited or they are falsified (by the amers, by the way, too). Secondly, many indicators used in the West are not applicable to our conditions, and some of the indicators applicable to our conditions are simply not being conducted. Therefore, all this information is populism, misting reality. And it’s better not to compare yourself with them at all, but to be guided by common sense and live according to your habits, and not look to the west
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 16 July 2013 17: 03
      0
      10000 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Your thoughts, but to the ruling elite !!!
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 17 July 2013 00: 38
        +1
        Quote: LetterKsi
        And it’s better not to compare yourself with them at all, but to be guided by common sense and live according to your habits, and not look to the west

        Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
        10000 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Your thoughts, but to the ruling elite !!!

        - Your thoughts and youth 25 years ago, I admit, incl. and to me, who calls the ruble wooden, the USSR - a scoop, the lifestyle of a western inhabitant - an ideal, Western fashion riding on top of taste and style, Western music ... A lot to list. Sasha, what's the tip of it? The Soviet people then made a choice, but Gorbachev helped and patted, alas. This we now understand, but it was necessary to understand then! LetterSI, plus!
  • Manager
    Manager 16 July 2013 10: 16
    +4
    Why is Russia not in the ranking? Is everything fine with us? We have probably the best "free" medicine, not bribing police, people do not smoke or drink, drug addiction is defeated, cars on the streets are left open and with keys, windows on 1 floors are without bars and are open ........ In general , as always! Everything is bad everywhere, everything is fine with us alone.
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 16 July 2013 10: 18
    -1
    honest jew (2)
    - According to various estimates, from 17% to 30% of citizens want to leave Russia forever. Sources: Public Opinion Foundation and Romir Analytical Holding

    I don’t believe your "sources - the Public Opinion Foundation and the Analytic Holding", they are not "dependent", they are very envious from CUSTOMERS, to impose on the population such an "opinion" that they need!
  • Tan4ik
    Tan4ik 16 July 2013 11: 07
    +1
    It would be necessary to deprive them of psychologists at least, and then ....
  • Sirs
    Sirs 16 July 2013 11: 36
    -1
    Someone write an article - what place the Russian Federation takes in all respects and then we'll see what happens. How we will look near the USA ...
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  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 16 July 2013 11: 41
    +3
    USA, England, Israel - there is an absolute evil!
    1. slaventi
      slaventi 16 July 2013 11: 53
      +2
      That's for sure, God forbid we live to see the fall of America.
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    2. Gato
      Gato 16 July 2013 13: 16
      0
      Quote: Ruslan_F38
      USA, England, Israel - there is an absolute evil!

      Do not give a list of absolute good?
      1. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 16 July 2013 13: 29
        -1
        While thinking list of absolute good no, but as soon as the Europe becomes completely DEEP and TOLERANT, perhaps the list will appear, they will not have the Fighter!
      2. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 16 July 2013 13: 49
        +1
        I’ll have to bring it, the Americans brought their list - the axis of evil, although any sane person understands where this evil comes from - USA, Israel, England.
        Inexplicably? Explain? Chew if the obvious is incomprehensible, if you are young and brought up on Western pseudo "values" and the United States for you is an earthly paradise, and their policy of destroying entire nations seems to you a struggle for "democratic values", just like eating human organs or cutting off the head on air? Proceed?
        1. Gato
          Gato 16 July 2013 14: 45
          0
          if the obvious is not clear, if you are young and brought up on Western pseudo "values" and the United States for you is an earthly paradise, and their policy of destroying entire nations seems to you a struggle for "democratic values"

          Let’s not ascribe to me views that have never been, never will be and never will be. I just don’t really like the simplistic-bipolar perception of the world (absolute evil versus absolute good). That is, if we wake up one beautiful morning in a world in which there is no England, the USA and Israel, then there will come an earthly paradise and universal prosperity?
          These are just three states and something tells me that NOT ONLY they represent the main danger for Russia (and for the Slavs in general)
          1. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 16 July 2013 15: 21
            0
            To gato
            Let’s not ascribe to me views that have never been, never will be and never will be.


            But it pleases.

            I just don’t really like the simplistic-bipolar perception of the world (absolute evil versus absolute good).


            Regarding these countries - at present the question is exactly like this - Cameron justifies live cannibals, Obama - cutting heads of freedom fighters, all together gays and lesbians, same-sex marriages, etc. Israel is a special song in general - it destroys everyone who "interferes with parking".

            That is, if we wake up one beautiful morning in a world in which there is no England, the USA and Israel, then there will come an earthly paradise and universal prosperity?


            I don’t know about paradise, I’m not God, but the world will definitely breathe a sigh of relief!

            These are just three states and something tells me that NOT ONLY they represent the main danger for Russia (and for the Slavs in general)


            I agree with you - not only, but they are the main thing.
          2. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 16 July 2013 17: 15
            0
            Who pose a danger to the Slavs is the Judaism with their idol Mamon !!!
      3. Setrac
        Setrac 16 July 2013 19: 50
        0
        Quote: Gato
        Do not give a list of absolute good?

        The center of good is the Volga region, the epicenter of evil is New York.
  • Nero9119
    Nero9119 16 July 2013 12: 02
    +2
    These are just numbers that mean little when US forces dominate the world. Any country has its drawbacks. The army makes the United States the only superpower in the world, and the entire financial world of the planet rests on its currency.
  • varov14
    varov14 16 July 2013 12: 02
    +2
    Yes! Ten credit cards, of course the roof will go and a psychoanalyst will be required. But our state is good, taking care of a person to a minimum, and that over the past 20 years has been less and less, both in medicine and education. Therefore, you need to rely only on yourself - in the spring he planted potatoes and all defaults are on my side, I will not die of hunger, there are no psychoanalysts or antidepressants to wear. I arrived from the garden, climbed on the Internet, wrote some Chuhansk koment and was pleased.
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 16 July 2013 17: 20
      0
      And who stood at the head and now rules .. all the same bag of money, and who has this bag ... That's right for mendel, chubais, greft and other abramovich ...
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  • Russ69
    Russ69 16 July 2013 12: 25
    0
    Although I do not feel any sympathy for the United States, but the article is one-sided. If we indicate the primacy of the United States, then we must then in everything.
  • 89501358976
    89501358976 16 July 2013 13: 32
    +1
    [quote = sevtrash] In general, you can turn a little differently.
    A lot of prisoners - this is how justice works, they don’t die in prisons, they are kept well.
    The first ones in hijacking - so this means they have to hell with the machine, they change them like gloves, because they don’t especially bother with the signaling, which is what they steal, and you need to look at who and what they steal. It could be a business. Today I stole from you and received insurance, and tomorrow you are with me.
    Obesity - so there is something to eat, do not limit yourself.
    They watch TV - so that there is a lot of free time.
    There are a lot of credit cards - so can you afford to take a bunch of loans and live not to push?
    A bunch of bachelors - they value freedom so much, if something is wrong in the family, they don’t hold on to it like ours.
    Teenage pregnancy and abuse are real numbers, which you won't find in some other countries.
    The number of lawyers is high - that’s how everything goes according to the law, the lawyer is available to the absolute majority, this is not a developing country.
    The leader in pornographic products is the United States as a global provider of the entertainment industry and motion pictures.
    They drink a lot of drugs - so 15% of their GDP goes to medicine, which means that the level of medical care is very good.
    Leaders in mental disorders - so everyone probably goes to a psychoanalyst, they take care of their psychological health, unlike other countries.
    Credit cards and mortgages - apparently the percentage is not comparable with the Russian one, since they can afford to take them in such volumes.
    Students have a duty to study - this means everyone can afford to take money for training and pay it.
    And so on
    INTERESTINGLY SCHEDULED !!! THEN SUCH A QUESTION, AND BY WHICH DOES ALL OF THESE CAN IT ALLOW FOR YOU?
    1. Cat
      Cat 16 July 2013 13: 51
      +3
      Quote: 89501358976
      A lot of prisoners - this is how justice works, they don’t die in prisons, they are kept well.

      the question is not - "how is it in prisons," the question is - why are there so many criminals in a "prosperous" country?
      Quote: 89501358976
      The first ones in hijacking - so this means they have to hell with the machine, they change them like gloves, because they don’t especially bother with the signaling, which is what they steal, and you need to look at who and what they steal. It could be a business. Today I stole from you and received insurance, and tomorrow you are with me.

      If the cars to hell - then why steal? To adjust insurance to each other - why do wealthy people need such dubious earnings? Not otherwise, to see for yourself how good the content in prisons is =)
      Quote: 89501358976
      Obesity - so there is something to eat, do not limit yourself.

      Pigs, they are pigs. And not some wild and ferocious ones, but those that are slaughtered in a stable - they are devouring everything that was poured into the trough.
      Quote: 89501358976
      They watch TV - so that there is a lot of free time.

      There is free time, but there are no brains to come up with an activity that is more interesting than watching ads. Sadness ...
      Quote: 89501358976
      There are a lot of credit cards - so can you afford to take a bunch of loans and live not to push?

      A secured loan is not needed, is it worth paying interest? Unsecured will not be able to repay the loan, and especially ten - why then take it? Not otherwise, the conditions in the prison also look like hunting?
      Quote: 89501358976
      Teenage pregnancy and abuse are real numbers, which you won't find in some other countries.

      that is, if you loudly declare a problem - will it cease to be one?
      Quote: 89501358976
      The number of lawyers is high - that’s how everything goes according to the law, the lawyer is available to the absolute majority, this is not a developing country.

      The work of a lawyer is to protect offenders. Law abiding citizen lawyer - why?
      Quote: 89501358976
      The leader in pornographic products is the United States as a global provider of the entertainment industry and motion pictures.

      Art, xyle. Who would doubt =)
      Quote: 89501358976
      They drink a lot of drugs - so 15% of their GDP goes to medicine, which means that the level of medical care is very good.

      Healthy people do not need medical care. if they drink a lot of drugs, it means they get sick a lot. Why would you?
      1. Cat
        Cat 16 July 2013 14: 00
        +1
        In general, no item is a masterpiece. Already it became fun =)))
      2. sevtrash
        sevtrash 16 July 2013 15: 43
        +1
        Everything is good in moderation, someone uses the benefits well, and someone is not very. However, it also depends on the point of view, as well.
        They can afford not to cook for themselves good, tasty and cheap food, buy medicine - actually look at their life expectancy in Russia, they can buy medicine, unfortunately people get sick, and that’s all, and those who live longer have more. The idea of ​​the work of a lawyer is truncated.
        Etc.
        Somehow it makes no sense to you to prove something - everywhere the answer is on the surface, but it is simply not clear for what reason to prove - it is better to do something useful.
    2. sevtrash
      sevtrash 16 July 2013 15: 34
      +2
      Well, due to what? They sell what they need in other countries and, preferably, more expensive. Microsoft products (don't you work with this yourself?), Intel (is there a computer?), Boeing (didn’t fly on a Boeing?), Apple, in the first place, by the sold weapons. They created the best education system in the world, which is also sold, and the best students from all countries are hired. The number of scientific papers the greatest where? They buy raw materials cheaper.
      And, imagine, every country, person, company is trying to sell more expensive, buy cheaper. The main thing is that you have something to sell that others need, something that these others do not have.
      Actually, I don’t understand why I have to explain all this to you. And so, it seems, clear. The Americans have a good life for their own. Do you think you should have for others?
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 16 July 2013 14: 19
    +1
    89501358976 RU

    Oh, well, something you just DRAW on earth.
    Watch their own films on how prisoners deal with prisoners.
    And this is from the news - the policeman SEEED that the guy had a weapon, he shot him right there, not having time tell him about HIS RIGHTS ...
    Obesity is not from an excess of foods, but from foods with GMOs that they have been eating for 20 years, if not more.
    They watch TV not because of the "heap" of free time, but crushed by interests.
    There are many credit cards - they don’t think about TOMORROW that they can lose their jobs.
    A bunch of bachelors - due to the fact that their women with big claims and at home do not want to do anything.
    Teenage pregnancy and abuse are from the propaganda of liberals from promiscuity and sex drive from kindergarten. Thank God I don’t see schoolgirls with bellies around.
    The number of lawyers is high - so they have everything according to the law.
    Well, yes, a relative from the USA was visiting, she said that for every sneeze they sue each other in order to "cut down" money "easily". He says that if someone, for example, fell on the sidewalk, no one will come up to help the person, because when you lean over him, he can grab you by the collar and call the police, say that you hit him, he fell ... well, the scenario is clear. And God forbid to look askance at the Negro, or even worse to tell him that he is a Negro, then you hit the full!
    Pornographic Products - entertainment industry... Oh well...
    They drink a lot of drugs - the brain is not able to assess the benefits and harms of the drugs.
    Mental Disorders Leaders -care about their psychological health, unlike other countries.. Just these people are no longer able to cope with their own problems, I feel sorry for them...
    Credit cards and mortgage loans ... Yes, it is a DISEASE, DIAGNOSIS of the inability to calculate the consequences of not paying loans ... By the way, in Russia there are already those who took out a loan, then another one to pay off this, then again, what to pay off the second, and so on deeper into the DEBT PIT ...
    Students ... what is GOD itself?АTHAI country, and can not learn people, and in the USSR, students were paid a scholarship! ... etc...
    1. strange and pretty meaningless
      strange and pretty meaningless 16 July 2013 15: 19
      +1
      Quote: ia-ai00
      A bunch of bachelors - due to the fact that their women with big claims and at home do not want to do anything.


      good ia-ai00, you set off !!! If only this infection had not dragged here ...
  • aksakal
    aksakal 16 July 2013 14: 33
    0
    Quote: aksakal
    Quote: Rumata
    I didn’t think that I had to prove that the US universities are better than the Russian ones, it turns out it came to that. I worked with students from Russia who came under the exchange program, and so they are VERY far behind in many areas
    - already work, be kind.
    Quote: Rumata
    Perhaps the engineers graduated are good, but in terms of science, everything is very bad.
    - I’m talking about this. The specifics of our economy is such, it will not go to teach a person only some very narrow specificity, albeit very good at
    Quote: Rumata
    For example, the HPLC analysis, which I met at the laboratory in the first year, is not known to the first degree, they don’t even have such devices, I’m not talking about more serious crystallography.
    - he simply will not survive and knowledge of this analysis is useless to him! Pharmaceuticals are simpler here, but a graduate must be able not only to develop medicines, evaluate them, but even be able to work in a pharmacy, if he suddenly wants it, etc.
    As for scientists - in Kazakhstan, a 3-step system has been adopted - a bachelor, these are types of medium-technical during the Soviet era, a Master (two more years after a bachelor's degree) is a type of engineer, and only after that another level for another two years, this is just for science, but their local universities do not prepare, it is under the state order (a state order is being formed from applications from departments, laboratories of corporations, research institutes and others) and applicants are sent to masters abroad. So it’s hard for me to argue over Russia, but about Kazakhstan
    Quote: Rumata
    but in terms of science, everything is very bad
    University science there is nothing to argue about because of the lack of such in Kazakhstan. And in the research institute about all these things in the know, then do not worry. The same Kazakhstan Institute of Combustion Problems, if it is not equipped with the latter in its part, then at least knows and even orders something or asks, within the framework of cooperation, for someone to conduct some research. Science in the USSR has never been located in universities, universities are educational institutions, not scientific, but research institutes are just scientific. Better to let it stay that way, anyway, as a result of the reforms that Medvedev wanted to carry out, the risks are too great - we will lose the research institutes and get nothing sensible in universities.
    The result - in the dispute about universities as educational institutions - the Russians are no worse (I argued this), in the dispute about universities as scientific institutions there is no subject of dispute at all - we have universities - scientific institutions so-so, insofar as, because once, students need to read lectures.
  • MasterTactician
    MasterTactician 16 July 2013 15: 38
    -1
    Regarding paragraph 24.
    And the author read Russian laws in general to make such statements ???
  • Sirjey
    Sirjey 16 July 2013 15: 42
    +1
    All this statistics, of course, "pleases the eye", but the fact that Russia ranks 1st in the world in the number of adolescent suicide in Europe cannot be upset. Children and adolescents are our future, and after the barbaric perestroika, our young generation is still trying to "shout" to loved ones and others through games with death ...
  • Specialsog
    Specialsog 16 July 2013 15: 59
    0
    does the whole world contain the USA? =)
  • JackTheRipper
    JackTheRipper 16 July 2013 16: 07
    +2
    The other day, quite by accident I saw in our local newspaper an advertisement for second-hand women's underwear and almost fell off a chair :). I thought that those days when everything was completely littered with us by the second hand have already passed - but no, they even sell used cowards with might and main ...
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 16 July 2013 20: 44
      -1
      This is only aMers thought of taking underwear for second-hand! Better without THEM than after THEM!
      1. strange and pretty meaningless
        strange and pretty meaningless 17 July 2013 05: 10
        +1
        fellow sincerely said laughing
    2. strange and pretty meaningless
      strange and pretty meaningless 17 July 2013 05: 08
      +1
      Ah, smiled. I remember, in Vlada there were shops selling PRESSED second-s ... (not end). There is a metal mesh in the store - and there are a lot of cowards in it. Even looking disgusted.
  • Tourist Breakfast
    Tourist Breakfast 16 July 2013 16: 11
    0
    Hopefully, before the complete and final collapse of the United States occurs, Hollywood will have time to finish "Game of Thrones". All the same, I wonder how it will end there.
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 16 July 2013 17: 09
      +1
      Quote: Tourist's Breakfast
      All the same, I wonder how the matter will end there.

      You can rest assured that everything will end in death, maybe an actor, maybe a producer or director. But the ending will be like that. It is impossible to tear off a newborn kangaroo adhering to his mother’s bosom without crippling him. So it is here. Kangaroos stuck! laughing
      1. Tourist Breakfast
        Tourist Breakfast 16 July 2013 18: 08
        0
        I completely agree. Because gladiolus (c).
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 16 July 2013 19: 17
          0
          Not on your nelly. Gladioli for the limited. Do not repeat after Pupyrchaty, he here a couple of days ago, with this gladiolus, he cuckered the whole cuckoo like a woodpecker. Therefore, on this site, the appearance of the flowers was changed. drinks
  • Pimply
    Pimply 16 July 2013 16: 44
    0
    The most beautiful thing about statistics is that it can be adjusted as you like.
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 16 July 2013 16: 53
      0
      Quote: Pimply
      The most beautiful thing about statistics is that it can be adjusted as you like.

      And the "statistics" given on the site http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/history/2nd-lebanon-war/acv-losses/ only confirms these words
  • Kavtorang
    Kavtorang 16 July 2013 16: 53
    +2
    Somehow instead, as someone proudly at first remembered of the sovereign-patriotic forum, a dull govnosrach turned out.
    And I can tell you about an absolutely ordinary American - her mother’s husband is already 9 years old. Not a military hawk and not a Wall Street financier. A clear excess of intelligence (as indeed many on our forum) - does not shine, but it can’t be called stupid either. An ordinary old man who works hard all his life and continues to retire, because he is a good mechanic.
    And this is the fourth time they’ve come to Russia together, they don’t tell me something about the universal troubles of the USA. But the mother every time in touch from a month and a half forced stay in Russia.
    So everything in the world is relative and reviews with ratings as well.
    PS I didn’t minus anyone except the author (for one-sidedness and tendentiousness), and I threw the pluses for the objective ones, which pink glasses sometimes take off.
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 16 July 2013 21: 07
      0
      Quote: Kavtorang
      Somehow instead, as someone proudly at first remembered of the sovereign-patriotic forum, a dull govnosrach turned out.

      - First. I did not quite understand the phrase. Explain who this someone is, somewhere and somehow?
      Quote: Kavtorang

      And I can tell you about an absolutely ordinary American - her mother’s husband is already 9 years old. Not a military hawk and not a Wall Street financier. A clear excess of intelligence (as indeed many on our forum) - does not shine, but it can’t be called stupid either. An ordinary old man who works hard all his life and continues to retire, because he is a good mechanic.

      Do you know Russian men? (By the way, I recommend apologizing about the forum participants. It’s not for you to judge.)
      -Thirdly. Cavtorang, they called themselves out of order. Libo - "mummer", or - "corrupt woman" (in general, you understand, I hope.
  • Black
    Black 16 July 2013 17: 33
    +1
    Quote: bomg.77
    The author, but say what I wanted?


    remember ...
    "- what does he say?" - "It is known that ... a scoundrel, he says, a bastard ...." - "What does he want?" - "It is known that something so as not to throw .."