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What does not warn the Ministry of Health

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This week, the IV International Festival of Social Technologies in Defense of Family Values ​​"For Life-2013" took place in Moscow. As a member of the Trade Union of Citizens of Russia, the Party the Great Fatherland and the coordinator of our Russian Billion project, I was given the opportunity to participate in this important event, make a report and express support for the initiative to ban the killing of unborn citizens of our country.


Abortion is weapon mass destruction. Today, along with homosexuality, sexual promiscuity, drug addiction, alcoholism and other life-destroying vices, they are a legalized way for the total reduction of the population of Russia. It does not fit in the head - as you can consciously, in your right mind and solid memory, decide on this.

What does not warn the Ministry of Health


I do not want to condemn anyone, but when I have to be present when I talk about how to preserve a pregnancy or get rid of a baby, for example, to wait for a career advancement and go on maternity leave from a new, more prestigious position, it always seems to me that these women have gone crazy That the whole world has gone mad. And I, along with all too. Because I am witnessing the madness that I allow to happen. But what can I do? Of course, as a mother of many children, I sincerely try to improve, to appeal to the dictates of my heart. The look of the interlocutors becomes clear, brightens, the facial features soften ... But, as a rule, this happens only for some short moments. Alas, too often in such cases, the mind infected with the destruction bacillus wins. A weak voice, no, a barely audible squeak of an enchanted heart turns out to be powerless.

But all this is nothing more than a natural consequence of a long and persistent information war against us. I cannot fail to quote an excerpt from the Ost master plan: “By means of propaganda, we must constantly inspire the population to think that it is harmful to have many children ... At the same time, the widest propaganda of contraceptives must be developed. The distribution of these funds and abortion should in no way be limited. It is necessary to promote the expansion of the network of abortion clinics in every way ...

Are our women guilty? And, in general, are these unfortunate creatures with crippled souls Women? For those who, according to only the fact of birth, are destined to be continuers of life and keepers of the hearth. And how many of them there are! Abortions not only undermine women's health (we already have infertility before 25% (!) Of married couples), they also cripple the psyche, turning our compatriots into the killers of their own children, economically exploited by society. I have repeatedly heard that the murdered children then often dream of them. An acquaintance told me that for several years now her unborn son came to her in a dream and said: “Mom, I forgive you. Be happy, mommy! ”But how can she, for the poor, forgive herself?

Burnout syndrome, a sense of emptiness, occurring after an artificial termination of pregnancy, often develop into a protracted, chronic depression, contributes to suicidal intent and deprive life of any meaning. Nature cannot be fooled, but it would be wrong to believe that in this way she will cruelly avenge these crimes against life. Nature cannot be cruel, but it is fair, everything in it is natural, and thus it only silently tries to defend itself, save itself, survive.

The statistics are terrifying. According to studies, 64% of women experienced forced abortion by their close environment, 84% were not informed about the child’s development and the consequences of the abortion for themselves, 31% experienced physical health problems after an abortion, 65% acquired clinical depression and post-abortion syndrome. In 3,5, the risk of premature death from various causes increases, and the suicide rate among those who performed an abortion is 6 times (!) Higher than those who gave birth (data source: www.theunchoice.com).

Meanwhile, the discussion of the upcoming abortion occurs not only among unmarried women, but also in the so-called prosperous families. In order of importance, these conversations are held somewhere between talking about how to spend the next vacation and when to make repairs in the apartment. Personally, I find it hard to imagine how you can continue to live under one roof with your husband, who suddenly offered his wife a walk to the doctor to get rid of the upcoming unwanted troubles. How can one believe after what happened that this man loves, and is he capable of loving at all? But it is especially incomprehensible how a woman can become an accomplice, and even more so the organizer of such a terrible crime? What attitude on the part of her man, on the part of Life itself, can she even count on?

With these hard thoughts, I was returning to Kazan on a flight of a Russian airline. In order to switch a little, I decided to look through the company logbook. Attention attracted a strange advertisement that occupies a whole page in the July issue. The message promises to all seekers of one hundred percent happiness, and in addition (apparently, as an unobtrusive bonus) and one hundred percent love! And no less. “Do you want your morning awakening every day to become a reason for unspeakable joy?” - advertises philosophically? It turns out that for this you need only ... take the dog from the shelter. Everything is easy! Finally, the title of a dog shelter - “Call of the Ancestors” finished me off. As they say, insanity was strong. And why are we, the restless, still tormented by the perennial question, what is the meaning of life? I also had several other ideas about what secret signs my remote ancestors could send me from time immemorial ...

With this advertising photo, smiling broadly, a young woman looks friendly and sympathetic, full of strength and health. She keeps on a leash no less contented big dog. I am by no means against helping our smaller brothers and other manifestations of kindness. Frankly, I really love dogs. And I love cats, hamsters, birds, rats, mice and other winged and tailed animals. I speak only against the substitution of concepts and I can not be indifferent to all these systemic manifestations of the final brainwashing of my fellow citizens. I believe with full confidence and even insist that a normal woman of childbearing age is not enough to adopt a dog for one hundred percent happiness.


“Absolute Happiness” promised by everyone


Our world is turned upside down. And at this time we are proud and, perhaps, rightly, consider ourselves the crown of humanity. No wonder, now we can transmit thousands of kilometers and in a fraction of seconds of thought, fly over the weekend to the warm sea or to the north pole. All around civilized people, anyway. Do you want to give birth now? No problem! One pill is enough ... We can buy everything your heart desires. In a pinch, take out a loan. How will we pay? Here is the main question. Because the main essence and truth of life lies in the fact that just what your heart desires is not sold for any money. And Satan has his own interest rates on such loans.

By the way, about Satan. Until the twentieth century, the killing of a child, both before and after birth, was a particularly serious crime, a terrible sin in the whole world and cruelly punished. And in the twenty-first century, the Devil, distracting and entertaining humanity with all sorts of new temptations, almost convinced us of the absence of its existence. Or no longer? Is this terrible Old Testament prophecy destined to come true? So, now the pregnancy is interrupted by the will of the woman without any discussion is completely legitimate, in public medical institutions at the state expense. That is, at the expense of the whole nation. Thus, along with tacit consent, we all also pay taxes on these devilish rituals. We are all accomplices, panderers, child-murderers, if we do not make any attempt to counter it. And it must be admitted.

It is time, finally, for all of us to understand that talking about any human rights in a country where children are killed is nothing more than demagoguery. I wonder why the gentlemen liberals bashfully keep silent about the violation of the rights of millions of Russian babies being killed in the womb of their own mothers? Maybe because these forgetful and, apparently, not too attentive gentlemen, so ardently and unitedly protecting the interests of all sorts of perverts and freaks, are vitally interested in the same thing as the owners who feed them from the master's hand? And these “forgetfulness” and “inattention” are generously paid for by our dying future? Among us, we live in clover traitors, these servants of the Devil, and in their heads do not blow, and do not lead with a horn. They just do their simple demonic work. Maliciously introduce juvenile justice under the guise of protecting the rights of children. They introduce in our kindergartens and schools a sexual interrogation, in which they present the concept of abortion to immature baby souls as just an innocent method of contraception with the sauce of a tempting opportunity to live for yourself and enjoy the idleness of vicious life. Lobby other anti-people actions, buying up the sinful souls of Russian parliamentarians, seducing them with Satan’s bloody chervonts. Fool us as they want, and we?

By agreeing with this bloody harvest, society loses any moral basis for opposing any other kind of killing a person with a person, other forms of lawlessness, violence and arbitrariness, undermines its fundamentals, kills its future and the meaning of existence, degrades and rushes like crazy for everyone pairs to the sure death. It is not by chance that Hitler initiated mass abortions (as well as sterilization) in the occupied territories, seeking the earliest extermination of the conquered peoples. And now the Nazi genocide programs have become our national “reproductive health” programs! Could our grandfathers of the front-line soldiers ever conceive, giving their lives for their Motherland, that they shed blood in order for their grandchildren to kill their great-grandchildren in cold blood?

History it is repeated, it is difficult to come up with something new, and the current occupants use the old methods of influence. Today, abortions, which are jealously multiplying the law imposed on the occupied territories, are widely used by the world's puppeteers behind the scenes to implement the policy of neocolonialism, undermining the demographic potential of the peoples inhabiting their territories. The idea that infanticide is a social norm, is just a modern way of regulating life comfort, is methodically being introduced into the consciousness of the communities being exterminated.

From a religious point of view, abortions are a satanic sacrifice of children, depriving them of the possibility of holy baptism. Peoples who allow them are deprived of Divine grace, doomed to loss of sovereignty, military-political defeats and social upheavals threatening destruction in the absence of collective repentance and abandoning demonic rites: “... and sacrificed their sons and their daughters to demons; they shed innocent blood ... - and the land was defiled with blood ... And the Lord's anger burned against His people, and He abhorred His inheritance and delivered them into the hands of the pagans, and those who hate them began to possess them. Their enemies oppressed them, and they humbled themselves under their hand ... ”(Ps.105: 34-42)

It becomes as clear as God's day that any programs protecting the rights of children are lies and hypocrisy, if they do not imply a ban on abortion. We are sadly aware that today many people lose a sense of awe before the mystery of human life and the higher laws of the existence of the Universe; they are not afraid, unlike their ancestors, of sin and the Lord’s punishment. And at that time, when the various rights of all perverts from the human tribe and even the interests of animals are protected, only the infant in the womb of his mother remains unprotected, becoming the bloody victim of the consumer society.

Judge for yourself that it was with the legalization by Khrushchev of murder of babies (Khrushchev's resolution of abortions in the USSR in 1955 - this is his first crime after Stalin’s death) all the problems of our life today began. The instability and disorder in which we have been wallowing in the last decades is a logical consequence of the deliberately losing bloody bargaining with deceiving demons. Is it any wonder after the accession of this satanic cult with its deadly rituals in our land that the number of traitors, murderers, sodomites and other perverts and geeks is growing in Russia?

The legalization of abortions was followed by new persecutions of the Orthodox Church, the second wave of collectivization, which finally destroyed the Russian village. The USSR and in terms of the legalization of abortions and in their number came out on top in the world. The country stood almost 40 years waist-deep in the blood of unborn children and fell limply under the onslaught of a sworn enemy, losing goals and a sense of its existence. Maybe we should still have the courage to see this simple causal relationship? Today, when from the once colossal country we inherited only a fairly truncated allotment named Russia. Maybe we should think about the fact that this is far from the limit of delimitation, and also about what will happen next ...

In this regard, it is worth recalling Stalin’s family policy, which consisted in refusing to eliminate the family: returning criminal responsibility for homosexuality in the 1934 year, banning abortions and introducing state support measures for families with children in the 1936 year. Let's admit that today our fellow citizens refer to the material difficulties inherent in modern life as the main reason for the refusal to have children. With these arguments, as well as with the statement that women should give birth, not because they have no choice, but following an exceptionally light desire to give a new life, one could, of course, agree. If it were not for one significant "but." Most of us who celebrate Victory Day every year were born because their mothers, grandmothers and great-grandmothers did not have an abortion in those tragic and difficult years for all of our people 1930-40. And these great Soviet women not only gave birth, but also raised, raised, often alone, worthy citizens of their country. Do we today have the moral right to place our conformism at the forefront and thereby justify our own laziness?

The world is desperately balancing on the edge of the abyss of non-existence. The eyes of many people with hope and anxiety are turned to Russia as the last bulwark of morality, strength of mind and common sense. It is on her shoulders that the fateful role of the salvation of all mankind is entrusted. Our long-suffering, patient Motherland, with a heroic history, with deep, stable traditions, with a strong, but at the same time peaceful character, with its truly great Russian soul - is a country chosen by God. But any patience has a limit. The earth that does not have time to dry out of the shed blood of powerless innocent babies killed by their mothers and fathers cannot be happy.

But we, not only the participants of the conference, but all sensible Russian people, still believe that all is not lost for us, and therefore we call upon the healthy forces of society to promote a speedy legislative ban on abortions and the introduction of effective measures of state support for pregnant women and families with kids. We unite with this sacred intention, despite the fact and, possibly, despite the fact that our Ministry of Health and Social Development does not take this initiative. And also for some reason it does not warn us about the imminent danger of the degeneration of our nation. I wonder why this is happening and is it ours, is it a ministry?

To achieve the above goals, we decided to create a permanent center for coordinating joint projects, events and actions. We will be glad to any support, participation and everything that will contribute to the process of understanding the importance of the issue of abandoning abortion and voicing this topic in your environment. We believe that the quality of national consciousness depends on each of us. We must say our decisive no to the destruction of our souls. We must fight for our children, for the future, for life. Do it right now. Then it will be too late. Too late...
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  1. smel
    smel 15 July 2013 06: 45
    15
    Largely agree with the author. However, there is still a double opinion on this issue. Not only is a person responsible for a new life, but also a STATE that establishes the rules of life for those already living. If the state is the Motherland, then this is one thing. If the state does not pull on the stepmother, this is completely different. But actually the questions are posed. A PLUS
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 15 July 2013 18: 11
      +1
      Quote: smel
      However, there is still a double opinion on this issue.

      My opinion also does not quite coincide with the author. A simple prohibition can not solve the problem. A set of measures is needed. I have already discussed the topic, I wrote, I do not want to repeat it.
      I set a minus for the article. Satan shouldn’t be pulled in, and even with a capital letter.
    2. starshina78
      starshina78 15 July 2013 20: 14
      +1
      Abortion cannot be banned. Sometimes women have to do them in order to save their lives (you cannot give birth for medical reasons), but in other cases it is murder! An abortion kills the life that is born. On the other hand, many are afraid to give birth. Because of what sometimes happens in our maternity hospitals (there are cases of infection of children with anything, children are dropped or banal sloppiness), because of fear: "What will I do with the child? I have no job, I have no home, the parents are yelling, the guy quit, "married couples go for an abortion practically for similar reasons (not a stable income, no housing). All calls from the state to give birth rest on one thing - the housing issue. It's good if fathers and mothers are rich, you can take a mortgage from your husband or "Kingdom of Heaven!" For your grandmother, you can leave your apartment, but in other cases you can get a dead end. The maternity capital is not large enough to buy an apartment (somewhere in the outback it may be possible, but it is unlikely that people living in the center will go to live in Tmutorokan). And it is not serious to expect benefits from the fact that it will bring benefits in the future. the state needs such a program. so that women strive to give birth. Increase the child allowance, payments for the birth of a child, up to an interest-free loan for housing, good health insurance (since we have practically started to live with paid medicine), a place in desads, and most importantly, it is propaganda to give birth, the prohibition of any propaganda of homosexuality, for which to plant for a long time, to organize psychological rooms at gynecological departments (the church does better than any psychologists, it takes such women under its wing and helps them in every possible way), to raise the status of the mother, and many other things.
  2. My address
    My address 15 July 2013 06: 50
    17
    Well, to do so that those who depend on the well-being of the future mother are interested in the birth. The company has privileges, the governor claps a shoulder from the president, the mayor is kicked for the lack of space in the kindergartens.
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 15 July 2013 09: 41
      +7
      Yeah, but in our country, on the contrary, when I was my head of a small enterprise, I had to submit documents to compensate for payments for two children born at the enterprise. He cursed everything in the world, lingering for two or three months with documents and corrections in the social insurance, sitting out at meetings of the commissions on refusal, and when his wife hinted that it would be worth making such payments for her children (a one-time allowance even before 1,5 years), said , go it yourself and make out, if necessary. And this despite the fact that the salary was white and all taxes and contributions were paid. And the eldest son, when he went to second grade, the turn came to kindergarten, although they stood in line immediately after birth.
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 15 July 2013 12: 05
        11
        The state is not even going to deal with the issue of extinction of the indigenous population - why should it?
        It is easier to increase the quota for citizenship of the Russian Federation - for migrants (500 a year!). And there is no problem. A migrant is much more profitable, no complaints, no rights, he wanted, he took away citizenship and adyu!
        In addition, the reduction of the indigenous Russian population is very impressive to the world elite, this can also be cut down on dough. sad
        And so we live, endure, be silent.
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  4. domokl
    domokl 15 July 2013 07: 47
    11
    The state needs a person only when the time comes to serve in the army. And that's it. Neither before nor after this moment the state is worried ... There are no kindergartens, we will solve the problem someday, education in schools requires a lot of money, we will solve it, rest, we will decide ... We will decide everything .. And the children are born constantly .... or are not born.
    The easiest way is to blame everything on the depravity of youth, on irresponsibility, on the sexual licentiousness of society. But the main thing is not that. The main thing is to be a parent in the country was simply beneficial. Both from the material and moral points of view.
    And about the next organization, bureaucrats, we can produce this ... This is not to raise children.
    1. Canep
      Canep 15 July 2013 08: 24
      15
      In May of this year, the population of Kazakhstan exceeded 17 million, and this despite the fact that the Russians are still leaving the country. Abortions are not prohibited in the country, and the birth rate exceeds mortality and migration. It may make sense to pay attention to the experience of the Kazakhs. The affordable housing program has been running for a couple of years. Buildings of kindergartens become back what they were built for. The medicine is truly free for mothers and children. And much more, (and without maternal capital).
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 15 July 2013 10: 25
        +5
        Yes matkap - it’s still bred. It is really possible to start it up only to improve housing conditions. And what can you improve on 400 thousand in the city? Plus a lot of restrictions even on this. I have a second child of 4, and we have just taken this certificate now. They wanted to expand the house, children in the attic each have a separate room and a playroom so that they would not interfere with their grandfather, so again the problem. The house is recorded on the grandfather. And all sailed.
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv 15 July 2013 10: 32
          0
          Yes matkap - it's still bred

          Bred to shift their problems to the state. If you do not know the rules for owning real estate, then these are YOUR problems, but not of the state.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 15 July 2013 10: 50
            +1
            Yeah, how can you still own real estate if the house is built with money from the sale of apartments and part of the money of his grandfather, because his apartment was also sold. What is your proposal for real estate ownership in this particular case? Plus, do not forget that pensioners do not pay property tax, and we would have to pay in full. It seems that for large families there are also benefits for this tax. But so far I have not found confirmation of this.
            1. leon-iv
              leon-iv 15 July 2013 11: 05
              +1
              who owns the property if it is? You Or grandfather or shared ownership?
              You write clearly.
              1. alicante11
                alicante11 15 July 2013 12: 11
                0
                Share ownership. From two apartments.
                1. leon-iv
                  leon-iv 15 July 2013 12: 14
                  0
                  YOU have clearly spelled out whose.
                2. Ezhaak
                  Ezhaak 15 July 2013 12: 37
                  +1
                  Quote: alicante11
                  Share ownership. From two apartments.

                  Well, then you were looking for a way to save. Found it. And they got a stick in the wheels, but none of you thought about it.
                  1. alicante11
                    alicante11 15 July 2013 13: 10
                    +1
                    In the sense of saving? Where is the savings here? It is said that the construction, or rather, the purchase of a house, left the money from two apartments.

                    YOU have clearly spelled out whose.


                    Who cares?
                    20% mine, 80% grandfather.
      2. Tatar
        Tatar 15 July 2013 14: 16
        +2
        not with us as good as they say. and statistics can also deceive, in order to report to the top that everything is fine. that’s what it’s for you. the average wage in the village is 4-5 thousand rubles. and it’s all for sowing and harvesting in winter for unemployment vacations. they buy milk in the village for 8 rubles, while in the city they sell 3,2% 60-70 rubles. in the city, it’s good to even find a salary of 8-10 thousand rubles. and as for affordable housing, it’s mainly officials, relatives of those who work in this affordable housing program, and those already have an apartment, because they can leave it as a guarantee, and so there are worries, someone overlooked, someone does not want look, or maybe someone specifically turns a blind eye, so it really is not far from the revolution (prices are translated into rubles)
      3. smel
        smel 15 July 2013 14: 29
        0
        Why are the Russians leaving? From a good life?
    2. Armata
      Armata 15 July 2013 08: 52
      10
      Quote: domokl
      The easiest way is to blame everything on the depravity of youth, on irresponsibility, on the sexual licentiousness of society. But the main thing is not that. The main thing is to be a parent in the country was simply beneficial. Both from the material and moral points of view.
      Hello Alexander. But you cannot close your eyes to this either. Here's a simple problem. My son is 20 years old, he still does not have a girlfriend. But no, simply because he was brought up differently, he does not like those who changed guys 20 times a year, he does not like the hangers-on. Now the majority are brought up according to the rules "Do what you want, if only you don't bother us." One acquaintance allowed his daughter to live with an 14-year-old boy at the age of 18. Isn't this a moral problem?
      1. Hon
        Hon 15 July 2013 09: 38
        -15 qualifying.
        Quote: Mechanic
        . My son is 20 years old, he still does not have a girlfriend.

        Is there a girl with no one, no? These are different things, many of my friends do not have girls, while the word "male" is the most accurate definition for them.
        1. Armata
          Armata 15 July 2013 09: 41
          +8
          Quote: Hon
          Is there a girl with no one, no? These are different things, many of my friends do not have girls, while the word "male" is the most accurate definition for them.
          Do not be rude. A man lives on a barracks basis at the academy, and on weekends to his parents (he is coming to us). You can walk your males with your friends and look for someone to slip in.
          ь
          1. Hon
            Hon 15 July 2013 09: 44
            -15 qualifying.
            Quote: Mechanic
            You can walk your males with your friends and look for someone to slip in.

            Does your son prefer Dunku to Kulakova? laughing
            1. Armata
              Armata 15 July 2013 10: 02
              +2
              Quote: Hon
              Does your son prefer Dunku to Kulakova?
              Are you jealous? Look for your own kind, and then bear poverty and fatherlessness.
              1. Hon
                Hon 15 July 2013 10: 09
                -13 qualifying.
                Quote: Mechanic
                and then bear poverty

                Am I misery? smile not at the address oh not at the address)) In fact, your son has two girls on the even right on the odd left really have something to envy laughing
                1. Armata
                  Armata 15 July 2013 10: 15
                  +6
                  Quote: Hon
                  Am I misery? not at the address oh not at the address)) In fact, your son has two girls on the even right on the odd left really have something to envy
                  How lazy I am to argue with a stupid redo. And then they ask questions. Where have family values ​​gone in Russia? I’ll answer it myself. They disappeared because of people like this Hon.
                  1. Hon
                    Hon 15 July 2013 11: 29
                    -13 qualifying.
                    Quote: Mechanic
                    Where have family values ​​gone in Russia? I’ll answer it myself. They disappeared because of people like this Hon.

                    What is what is, well, nothing soon your son will take matters into his calloused hands and correct the situation laughing
                    1. Armata
                      Armata 15 July 2013 12: 15
                      +9
                      Quote: Hon
                      What is what is, well, nothing soon your son will take matters into his calloused hands and correct the situation
                      I do not meddle in his affairs. But those who laugh a lot over the topic of creating a family are clearly not worthy of those who are looking for one, but for life. It is these abortions of society that just then raise questions about polygamy (and no mistake, freedom to visit swingers' gatherings), abortion, same-sex marriage, and freedom of emigration to their own kind.
            2. cdrt
              cdrt 15 July 2013 11: 39
              +1
              And they themselves seem to be unfamiliar with her wassat
              1. Hon
                Hon 15 July 2013 14: 06
                -3
                Quote: cdrt
                And it’s as if they weren’t familiar with wassat

                My girlfriend Kristina's name is Komsomol, athlete, beauty wink
      2. s1н7т
        s1н7т 15 July 2013 09: 41
        +2
        [quote = Mechanic] But no, simply because he was brought up differently, he doesn’t like those who changed guys 20 times a year, don’t like engraftments. [quote]
        Absolutely agree !!! good
        1. cdrt
          cdrt 15 July 2013 11: 40
          0
          Bullshit is complete.
          Every generation is full of good, decent people. The problems are more likely in the complexes ...
      3. cdrt
        cdrt 15 July 2013 11: 37
        +1
        The son himself is 18 years old. VMK MSU budget, Olympiad
        Good normal girlfriend girls, and his girlfriend is a good decent man.
        So ... apparently this is not the problem
        1. Hon
          Hon 15 July 2013 14: 10
          -3
          Quote: cdrt
          The son himself is 18 years old. VMK MSU budget, Olympiad
          Good normal girlfriend girls, and his girlfriend is a good decent man.
          So ... apparently this is not the problem

          And I’m talking about the same thing. If you don’t like girls in a disco, meet in the library, there’s still a lot of beautiful, smart and properly educated
    3. alicante11
      alicante11 15 July 2013 09: 42
      +1
      Well, why, even when taxes have to be paid.
    4. host
      host 15 July 2013 10: 50
      +1
      The capitalist system is dying away, and Russia has abandoned the idea of ​​socialism in order to please the dying world of CAPITAL and has gone along its path.
      And now we understand that capitalism naturally develops into fascism with a human grimace and good intentions leading to hell.
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    1. cdrt
      cdrt 15 July 2013 11: 49
      +1
      If you read the polls (psychologists, not sociologists), then abortions are largely done due to the infantility of the male partner.
      Sex drive is a natural part of human behavior.
      Well ... the sexual revolution has already taken place (in the USSR through the efforts of the Bolsheviks back in the 1920s).
      Why then should only a woman suffer?
      Maybe this is true - if a woman becomes pregnant, does the biological father bear the payment of the standard of living for a child (i.e. 15K rubles per month) up to 20 years old? He didn’t give money - to prison and from there at 15K per month.
      Well, as the ancient Turks had - an obligation to marry. Not married - the death penalty.
      And then only ban abortion.
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 15 July 2013 22: 18
        +1
        Quote: cdrt
        If you read the polls (psychologists, not sociologists), then abortions are largely done due to the infantility of the male partner.
        Sex drive is a natural part of human behavior.
        Well ... the sexual revolution has already taken place (in the USSR through the efforts of the Bolsheviks back in the 1920s).
        Why then should only a woman suffer?
        Maybe this is true - if a woman becomes pregnant, does the biological father bear the payment of the standard of living for a child (i.e. 15K rubles per month) up to 20 years old? He didn’t give money - to prison and from there at 15K per month.
        Well, as the ancient Turks had - an obligation to marry. Not married - the death penalty.
        And then only ban abortion.

        Where from the 15K zone ??? People in the wild do not see such money ...
    2. Ivan.
      Ivan. 15 July 2013 13: 17
      0
      Quote: Svobodny
      [VOTING FOR THE PROHIBITION OF ABORTION IN RUSSIA [/ leech]

      The link leads to "public services" - any cooperation, starting with authorization through snils (digital name of a person), is an approval and legalization of FZ210 and consent to transfer the state's obligations into the sphere of SERVICES, with subsequent transfer into effective hands.
  6. ImPerts
    ImPerts 15 July 2013 08: 10
    +2
    Blaming everything on poverty and the state is easiest. Like, we don’t want to produce poverty. Like, the state must solve the problems, and we will give birth. Moreover, the state must solve the problem of toxicosis and painless childbirth. It is also necessary to make sure that the pregnancy proceeds quickly and imperceptibly, does not leave stretch marks on the stomach and then the chest does not sag.
    - People kiss in your films, and in a minute they have a baby! You and I have kissed so much already ...
    - You see, Diana ... How can you explain this? It's called "editing"!
    - Kiss - chick - wedding - chick - and - baby!
    “Oh, Johnny, I want to be in the cinema.” Please do the installation!
    If a person does not want to mess with children, he will find many reasons not to give birth. In the countries of the "golden billion", the birth rate is kept at the level only at the expense of immigrants. And immigrants come from countries where the state does not deal with this issue.
    1. domokl
      domokl 15 July 2013 08: 17
      +5
      Quote: ImPerts
      If a person does not want to mess with children, he will find many reasons not to give birth. In the countries of the "golden billion", the birth rate is kept at the level only at the expense of immigrants. And immigrants come from countries where the state does not deal with this issue.

      And if a person wants to bother with children, but does not know how to feed them, for what money to teach, how to send to kindergarten or on vacation? I won’t talk about all kinds of gold, it’s enough to look at Moscow. The level of life is higher than everyone else in Russia, and the birth rate? Just because people really calculate the prospects of their family with several children (and they are not very good even in Moscow) and the prospects for the future children (only geniuses will go to the budget department), but there’s no money to pay for school and any academy.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 15 July 2013 10: 20
        +2
        With the fact that our state thinks only in words of increasing the birth rate, I agree. But with the fact that everything in this matter needs to be left at the mercy of the state - no. For whom are we giving birth to children? For the state? For myself, because it is joy, for procreation, and then only for the state. As they say. One child for the parents, two for the grandparents and the third for the state. Tell me, when was life better than now? Or before the revolution, or in the first five-year plans of the USSR? And in fact they gave birth and raised children. And the population was increasing. So we are already ashamed to nod at the state and at the "bad life".
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv 15 July 2013 10: 25
          -2
          With the fact that in our country the state only thinks in words about raising the birth rate, I agree.

          And what is maternal capital?
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 15 July 2013 10: 51
            0
            This is a corruption component. For those who have connections in a pension fund and can cash this capital.
            1. leon-iv
              leon-iv 15 July 2013 11: 00
              +1
              Well then, I'm a terrible corrupt official, for right now with my wife we ​​are choosing a new second apartment. And part of the down payment will be maternity capital. CHYADNT?
              1. alicante11
                alicante11 15 July 2013 11: 05
                0
                It is interesting in which city can you add 400tys to buy a large apartment? Do not tell me?
                1. leon-iv
                  leon-iv 15 July 2013 11: 06
                  0
                  her only mortgage is only hardcore. And 400 thousand is part of the down payment.
                  1. alicante11
                    alicante11 15 July 2013 12: 13
                    +1
                    Yes Yes. And how much are mortgage payments, if not a secret. However, this is not very important, after I repaid three loans, one of my own and two of my father's, during the year, I have sworn to have something in common.
                    1. leon-iv
                      leon-iv 15 July 2013 12: 44
                      0
                      Have not chosen an apartment yet. For we will choose for a long time the wife wants a three-ruble note.
                  2. cdrt
                    cdrt 15 July 2013 12: 16
                    0
                    An example is Naberezhnye Chelny.
                    My friends - maternity capital - down payment on a mortgage. The apartment is odnushka, worth 1.2 million rubles. They will pay 8-10 thousand per month on a mortgage. They resettled her husband’s mother in a separate apartment, and stayed in her own.
                    1. alicante11
                      alicante11 15 July 2013 13: 13
                      +1
                      Well, this was our first option. To remove the father. Convert kopeck piece into three rubles by moving the wall in the niche and moving our bedroom to the niche. But when the third child was born, it became clear that living in an apartment was not real.
        2. cdrt
          cdrt 15 July 2013 12: 13
          +1
          Hmm ... so this is inversely related processes. The better you live, the lower the birth rate.
          A very effective way to stimulate it (half irony) wink - lack of a pension system.
          + State support in the form of new free (or inexpensive) kindergartens, schools, children's clinics, hospitals.
          Well ... religious education, instilling the concept of good and evil, the fact that abortion is a product of irresponsibility (primarily a man), that children and family are the only way to live a normal life, etc.
      2. ImPerts
        ImPerts 15 July 2013 11: 55
        +3
        Alexander, I don’t know where you work, but now I work in medicine. And in the first place among expectant mothers, that it is difficult, painful and disgusting. And if the state paid money for pregnancy and childbirth, then I have no confidence that this would serve as a guarantee of an increase in the birth rate. Then they would cry about the lack of kindergartens and more. In principle, this can be seen without it. They give birth for benefits and other benefits, money is drunk, and children are abandoned.
        Who wants to give birth, and who needs a reason, he is looking for her.
        Now psychology is like that. We will give birth to you, and you give me money, only I will not bring up, I have not yet been dogged.
        You really need to calculate your capabilities, but if you need to calculate everything, then you need to leave here. In a calm, quiet Scandinavia. There you can fuse the child into the guardianship and again be a free bird.
        "... Most of us, annually celebrating Victory Day, were born due to the fact that their mothers, grandmothers and great-grandmothers did not have an abortion in those tragic and difficult years for all our people in 1930-40s. And these great Soviet women not only gave birth, but they also raised, educated, often alone, worthy citizens of their country. Do we today have the moral right to prioritize our conformity and thereby justify our own laziness? ... "
        The author is right, right. They did not calculate, gave birth and cared.
      3. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 15 July 2013 12: 49
        0
        Quote: domokl
        that people really calculate the prospects of their family

        It is you subtly hinting at the cars that are not expensive apartments, rest somewhere out there and throwing money in the night taverns of Moscow. No, I'm sorry, but they are categorically for abortion than simple hard workers.
    2. mogus
      mogus 15 July 2013 08: 56
      +4
      if zp 10-15t.r., then you can feed / dress children with promises and desire? One yes - two? (silent about the third)
      It seems that we live in one country, but why such a spread in income? Or are you in another country?
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 15 July 2013 10: 40
        0
        If the question is for me, how can I tell you ... I’ll just say what you need to achieve, and not cry over low salaries. I’ve been living with my first wife, we also reasoned, they say, now we’ll make money, make an apartment, and even then ... And when they began to earn money, we finished building the apartment, and then we ran away. It’s just that you don’t have to sit in one place and cry that you live poorly, but look for opportunities. I came after being allocated at the institute in 2000 by a teacher at a technical school for 700 rubles a month, after 3 of the year I already had 12tys a month, becoming head. branch. When the opportunity turned up, he opened his own business, when it became difficult, he moved to another industry. Now I’m going back to college.
        1. cdrt
          cdrt 15 July 2013 12: 20
          -1
          1. In my opinion, W. Buffett said - don’t say that I’ll make money, there will be children. Money will appear only after the children appear wink
          2. I completely agree. If, under the same starting conditions, 10 years after the institute, one earns 50-80 thousand rubles, and the other whines that he is not enough for 10 thousand - maybe it’s not in the state, but in the second? Maybe the first - worked at one time in two jobs, received a second education, did not drink beer in the evenings with friends, but stupidly worked for 10 years, and the second drank beer. Maybe the second one is not a pity - what has it earned then it has?
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 15 July 2013 13: 30
            +1
            Well, I would say that, after all, "tearing the veins" is bad. A person should have time for work and rest and to be with his family. And to work for 11 years without holidays, mostly without days off, having the entire household on his wife and not seeing practically children, this is not life. For the first time in all this time, I have been sitting at home for a whole month, doing almost nothing at work. Not even familiar.
        2. mogus
          mogus 16 July 2013 05: 34
          0
          the question was not for you, but I will answer.
          His job - if people get an average of up to 15 tr, then a lot of people can afford to buy (and how with low purchasing power to develop their business? Also, I know what I'm talking about). Do not cry, do something - so two classmates are already in non-rubber ...
          Earlier, I gave an example for comparison: Manchuria and Zabaykalsk - the same amount of money (MAPP) passes through both cities, but compare them by photo (heaven and earth). Only recently they decided to leave half of the fees from the camps (usually on average 3/4 is taken to the federal center) - it is not possible to develop if the lion's share is taken to Moscow, where they are mastered ...
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 16 July 2013 09: 35
            0
            Perhaps not everyone understood. But I cited the option of having a career. Do not come to get ready and do not sit on this get ready. When I came to college, my classmates on the railway received 4-6 thousands, and I came to 700. And after three years he received more of them. Those. you need to look for a place where you can start, albeit sacrificing something before it.
            It is clear that not everyone can make a career. But then you have to go to work lion, for a part-time job. And your business is not an option now, if you do not trade or become affiliated with government agencies or large corporations, then you will become bent.
            Regarding Moscow, yes, everything is rowing for itself. Everything that brings money. Only Psole 2005 gobbled up large enterprises in Khabarovsk and the region of 8. What will you do? It would be possible to drop a bomb that would destroy everything within the MKAD, but Russia would not suffer, there would be no problems. And so ... it remains only to adapt.
            But there is no sense to go there either. for one who has risen - a hundred of those who are trampled into the mud. Where he was born there and come in handy.
    3. aviamed90
      aviamed90 15 July 2013 12: 17
      0
      Impertz

      You forget that, in fact, the state was created for the well-being of citizens, and not citizens for the well-being of the state.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 15 July 2013 13: 14
        +1
        Who told you such nonsense :)?
        1. aviamed90
          aviamed90 15 July 2013 13: 18
          +1
          alicante11

          Do you think differently? Justify, if not difficult!
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 15 July 2013 14: 05
            +1
            Why justify, do you really live on another planet? Look around.
  7. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 15 July 2013 08: 17
    +1
    Stalin, Hitler, Khrushchev, dogs ... Horses mixed up in a bunch, people ...
    Abortion and contraception are family planning tools. Children need not only to give birth, but also to raise, educate, educate. I do not want my 15 children to see chocolates only in shop windows, and good clothes and toys only for peers. Mindless reproduction is the destiny of animals, and not of a rational person.
    1. Svobodny
      Svobodny 15 July 2013 08: 35
      +2
      Quote: Mikhail M
      inheritance of animals, not reasonable man.

      Even the evil wolf does not kill her children.
      And about
      Quote: Mikhail M
      family planning tools
      operating in Russia, I advise you to consult with specialists from the United States Department of State - they will tell you a lot about birth control.
      1. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m 15 July 2013 13: 28
        0
        What do you offend wolves so much?
      2. revnagan
        revnagan 15 July 2013 16: 10
        0
        Quote: Svobodny
        Even the evil wolf does not kill her children.

        This is true only if the wolves drive a pregnant moose cow, it abortes. Well, there is such a thing, even cracking. You can do analogies between people and animals yourself.
        1. Hon
          Hon 15 July 2013 16: 29
          +1
          A pregnant rabbit can dissolve in itself embryos if there is a shortage of food or other difficult factors, in addition, in nature there are frequent cases of eating their offspring. Only in man such mechanisms are not inherent, that is, making an abortion for a person is unnatural.
    2. Svobodny
      Svobodny 15 July 2013 08: 47
      +4
      Quote: Mikhail M
      15 children

      Michael, God grant you exactly as much as you wrote.
      laughing
      And I'll add to the sweets for you))) I’m sure, and the men will take off.))))
      1. ImPerts
        ImPerts 15 July 2013 11: 58
        +1
        100
        If you plan everything, then for 15 children you need to become a top manager of Gazprom to provide them not only with sweets.
    3. kavkaz8888
      kavkaz8888 15 July 2013 09: 18
      -1
      Pure chёs. About such philosophers the article is also written.
      What is the truth 15 children? Or so, for the visitors?
      1. Svobodny
        Svobodny 15 July 2013 09: 21
        0
        kavkaz8888, Mikhail suggested that he would have so much. Afraid not to feed.)))
    4. Kahlan amnell
      15 July 2013 09: 37
      0
      Abortion and contraception are family planning tools.

      Michael, would you like your mom and dad to also plan a family? To be scraped out of your mother? Abortion and contraception are tools of killing and destruction. There are natural and safe methods for family planning. I don’t know how it is with you, in Chelyabinsk, but in Moscow, I know, for many years and successfully the Public Association for Promoting Family Health “HOMO AMANS” (“Loving Man”) has been operating.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvPoDQOGOFc
      1. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m 15 July 2013 13: 31
        +2
        It operates in Moscow, but the name of the Russian letters was not enough?
        You do not relate to foreign agents by chance?
        1. Kahlan amnell
          15 July 2013 14: 05
          +1
          It operates in Moscow, but the name of the Russian letters was not enough?
          You do not relate to foreign agents by chance?

          Young man, you will be joking and mocking in front of your girlfriends. "Homo Amans" (Man in love) is Latin. Or do you and doctors classify as foreign agents because they use Latin?
          Become familiar with the activities of the association before making a judgment.
          I have nothing to do with "Homo Amans", simply because I am not a Muscovite. But I see the result of their labors: parents who have been diagnosed with infertility safely give birth to healthy children. Families that are on the verge of disintegration remain. And how many abortions were prevented thanks to their educational activities - you can't count.
          If you didn’t practice unnecessary “wit”, but inquired about the activities of these people, you would be ashamed of your own, unfounded, attack.
          I hope you at least listened to my words ...
      2. Hon
        Hon 15 July 2013 14: 48
        -1
        Quote: Kahlan Amnell
        Abortion and contraception are tools of killing and destruction.

        And what is bad about contraception?
        1. Kahlan amnell
          15 July 2013 16: 34
          0
          In the one about which you know - all badly!
          There is a desire to understand the issue?
          Welcome to the online resource for true and accurate information.
          http://eps-metod.ru
          1. Hon
            Hon 15 July 2013 16: 41
            -2
            Quote: Kahlan Amnell
            In the one you know about - everything is bad!

            I only use latex, you can still be protected on the calendar.
            1. Kahlan amnell
              15 July 2013 23: 24
              0
              Think gum is safer and won't affect you in any way?
              Well then, you can continue to be confused ...
              Or take a chance and open your eyes.
    5. alicante11
      alicante11 15 July 2013 10: 21
      +3
      In-in, therefore, it is necessary to make 15 children see sweets not only in the windows. And it depends on you, not on the state.
  8. svskor80
    svskor80 15 July 2013 08: 38
    +2
    Unfortunately, a large number of children are now inevitably associated with financial difficulties that are difficult even for children to explain. The state really does not really help that much, the endless collection of some sort of information and evidence that you are not a "camel". But I agree with the author - abortion is not permissible, you need to plan a family competently before pregnancy, and if such took place only to give birth and without options.
    1. user
      user 15 July 2013 08: 51
      +2
      I think that the problem is that the state pays little attention to this issue (solely maternal capital). Under Soviet rule, this was a top priority.
      Now, if for every 3 child they were given an apartment according to sanitary standards or a cottage, then the birth rate of FIGs, which Central Asia or the Caucasus surpassed Russia
    2. cdrt
      cdrt 15 July 2013 12: 24
      -2
      Yeah, but with the addition. The girl gave birth - married, not married, with a biological father - 15 thousand rubles per month, or (if income is higher - 25%). He didn’t give two months - a prison listing all the earnings of the mother of the child. Then you look and there will be less abortion
      1. Hon
        Hon 15 July 2013 14: 43
        -1
        Quote: cdrt
        Yeah, but with the addition. The girl gave birth - married, not married, with a biological father - 15 thousand rubles per month, or (if income is higher - 25%). He didn’t give two months - a prison listing all the earnings of the mother of the child. Then you look and there will be less abortion

        Yeah, only paternity is left to prove))
  9. washi
    washi 15 July 2013 08: 50
    +3
    And if a person wants to bother with children, but does not know how to feed them, for what money to teach, how to send to kindergarten or on vacation? I won’t talk about all kinds of gold, it’s enough to look at Moscow. The level of life is higher than everyone else in Russia, and the birth rate? Just because people really calculate the prospects of their family with several children (and they are not very good even in Moscow) and the prospects for the future children (only geniuses will go to the budget department), but there’s no money to pay for school and any academy.
    Or maybe it's a matter of elementary EGOISM? As many argue, having picked up Western "values", it is necessary to live for yourself, take a walk. And then it's too late.
    Or maybe someone will argue that in the Caucasus, Central Asia and Kazakhstan there is a very rich population and that is why they breed in all?
    Or the matter is education and traditions.
    1. Hon
      Hon 15 July 2013 14: 32
      0
      Quote: Vasya
      The standard of living is higher than all in Russia, and the birth rate? Just because people really calculate the prospects of their family with several children (and they are not very good even in Moscow) and the prospects of future children (only geniuses will go to the budget department), and pay for study and any academy no money.

      We have half of the department on maternity leave, so there is no problem with birth rate in Moscow visually. The standard of living is certainly higher than in many regions, only the cost of odnushka starts at 5 rubles. In general, most of all large families in villages in which collective farms did not fall apart, that is, where people have a stable income (not necessarily high, most importantly enough) and there is the opportunity to have decent housing.
  10. serge
    serge 15 July 2013 08: 58
    +2
    While "our" government is openly lying about the desire to improve the demography in the country, from 4 to 8 million abortions are performed in Russia every year. Those. over the past 20 years, our country has lost 100 million citizens due to abortion. And abortions are performed not by Tajiks, not by Chechens, but by Russians. Ban abortion - and the Russian population will begin to grow by 6 million a year.
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 15 July 2013 16: 16
      +1
      Quote: serge
      Prohibit abortion - and the Russian population will begin to grow by 6 million a year.

      Oh, how everything will be fine !!! And you can also prohibit getting sick and growing old and dying. There will be great profits for the state! Yes, they will simply get rid of in secret, and civilians will die, and "doctors" will be welded. ...
    2. sergo0000
      sergo0000 15 July 2013 16: 25
      +2
      Quote: serge
      While "our" government is openly lying about the desire to improve the demography in the country, from 4 to 8 million abortions are performed in Russia every year. Those. over the past 20 years, our country has lost 100 million citizens due to abortion. And abortions are performed not by Tajiks, not by Chechens, but by Russians. Ban abortion - and the Russian population will begin to grow by 6 million a year.
      Scary numbers to be honest.
      It is interesting to read what healthy strong men write about abortion, BUT I would very much like to hear an opinion on this issue of our women site. hi
      1. dustycat
        dustycat 15 July 2013 23: 46
        0
        In the light of the lack of real family support and the development of industry, 99% of women answer about the abortion ban is known - to be MASTERED to all prohibitors of abortion.

        Abortion is a social phenomenon.
        Because the alternative is an increase in crime and suicide.
        Abortion can be defeated only by socialization of the world economy.
        When every child is needed. As a man.
        And not as a means of pressure on others to work for pennies.
  11. vitek1233
    vitek1233 15 July 2013 08: 59
    +5
    To the author of Big Plus, if I’m not mistaken, she’s the mother of four children
  12. Kahlan amnell
    15 July 2013 09: 26
    +2
    Moderators deleted 5 from 7 photos. If you look at the article on the source, you will see the horror that abortion workers see every day.
  13. leon-iv
    leon-iv 15 July 2013 10: 01
    +4
    But I’ve personally said for a long time more than once what’s needed
    1 Prohibit Abortion Without Medical Indications
    2 Introduce a childless tax from 25 years until the birth of the 2 child with a deferment of 5 years after the birth of the first
    3 Solve the problem with kindergartens and nurseries
    4 Expand foster care program.
    1. Armata
      Armata 15 July 2013 10: 04
      +3
      Quote: leon-iv
      But I’ve personally said for a long time more than once what’s needed
      1 Prohibit Abortion Without Medical Indications
      2 Introduce a childless tax from 25 years until the birth of the 2 child with a deferment of 5 years after the birth of the first
      3 Solve the problem with kindergartens and nurseries
      4 Expand foster care program.
      Hey. Instead, we have juvenile justice.
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 15 July 2013 10: 09
        +1
        Juvenile justice has always been and will be. My wife worked with her three or four years ago, so quite sane people work in the Ivanovo prosecutor's office. But with abortion is really more difficult. Moreover, it is not clear because such a problem is in the entire "white" world and not only in Russia. Moreover, in the same USA, families of 3-4 people have not been accepted for a long time. And the age of first childbirth has already been shifted to 3-4 years.
        1. serge
          serge 15 July 2013 19: 48
          0
          ... the age of the first childbearing has already shifted to 28-32 years.
          -----------------
          Accordingly, the number of children with physical and mental disabilities is enormous, since in order to give birth to healthy children, it is better for a woman to give birth before the age of 30. In the clinics of the corresponding profile, a woman who gives birth for the first time after 30 years is unofficially called "old primiparous".
      2. cdrt
        cdrt 15 July 2013 12: 27
        +1
        The patronage family - actually fits into juvenile justice very organically ... you can say its basis.
        You just need to ... take away the children from their parents and transfer them to the foster family.
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv 15 July 2013 12: 36
          -1
          ..can say its foundation.
          You just need to ... take away the children from their parents and transfer them to the foster family.

          if you choose children at home / foster family, then the choice is clearly for the family because it is a family. And I repeat once again Juvenile justice was and will be. This is an old branch of RIGHT.
    2. IRBIS
      IRBIS 15 July 2013 15: 07
      +2
      Quote: leon-iv
      But I’ve personally said for a long time more than once what’s needed
      1 Prohibit Abortion Without Medical Indications
      2 Introduce a childless tax from 25 years until the birth of the 2 child with a deferment of 5 years after the birth of the first
      3 Solve the problem with kindergartens and nurseries
      4 Expand foster care program.

      Where to live? Or pay the bank a mortgage for 15-20 years? No, I agree to pay, but not such amounts! Overpayment is - 150% of the loan amount, at best! If you add here that house prices are wild, then it becomes sad. It is possible to "prohibit" and "enter", only it is necessary at the beginning of the "nests" to ensure that the "chicks" do not "fall out".
    3. dustycat
      dustycat 15 July 2013 23: 39
      +1
      Quote: leon-iv
      But I’ve personally said for a long time more than once what’s needed


      Item number 0 forgotten.
      0. Castrated.
  14. Middle-brother
    Middle-brother 15 July 2013 10: 10
    +2
    I fully support the author of the article. There is nothing to blame on the state and complain about their problems. A child will appear - God will not leave him, there will be money and strength, let it be hard and there will be more problems. Than to talk about the revival of the Motherland and the unwillingness of the state to help, we must begin with ourselves in order to change something for the better. Do what you must, and be what happens.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 15 July 2013 12: 31
      +1
      Darn!!!
      Is there even one daughter’s father? wink
      How many single mothers in the Russian Federation ???
      And who thought - among them, what percentage of abortions to childbirth?
      Maybe the number of abortions - including an indicator of Russian male worthlessness?
      For some reason, among my friends, in all normal families they give birth as much as possible (in the biological sense) wink ).
    2. revnagan
      revnagan 15 July 2013 16: 25
      0
      Quote: Middle Brother
      A child will appear - God will not leave him, there will be money and strength, let it be hard and there will be more problems.

      And why doesn’t God help those dirty beggar kids who roam the market? My wife and I are pulling our own, and someone gave birth, received and drank money, and in the trash, why doesn’t God help? No brothers, if the state directly every penny is sucked out of your pocket through hospitals, kindergartens, schools, housing and communal services, from normal people and spends them to support alcohol addicts, then no prohibitions on abortion can stimulate the birth rate. give birth for money.
      1. Middle-brother
        Middle-brother 16 July 2013 11: 41
        0
        The question is not about dirty babies - beggars, this is a question to their mothers, who gave birth, do not understand from whom. Try to give birth to your second child - yes, it will be very difficult, but I think you won't go around the world. I repeat, in order to change the situation as a whole, everyone needs to start with themselves, "fight" on their own front.
  15. aviamed90
    aviamed90 15 July 2013 11: 24
    -7
    One gets the feeling that the author, under the words "woman" and "mother," presupposes a dumb brute, which is OBLIGED to give birth to please the state and by its order! But this is not the case!

    Gentlemen, we are not in a stable among sows! And we do not need to fulfill the plan of the next five-year plan!


    A woman certainly has the right to decide for herself whether to give birth to her or not. Let's respect her rights.

    And if our "social" state wants to improve the demography in the country, then there are other ways for this.
    But against the background of propaganda of violence, sex (not love), the rule of money, etc. it looks wild. The state itself has built this vicious circle, supports the existing order of things and is still offended by citizens.

    And there is NOTHING to do, or to do a minimum, and then declare: oh, you are such and such bad citizens that you are not fruitful for state needs - just arrogance on his part.

    Here is the position of the state:

    "The woman's eyes lit up.

    “I understand your irony, professor, we will leave now ... Only I, as the head of the cultural department of the house ...”

    “The master,” Philipp Philippovich corrected her.

    “I want to offer you,” the woman pulled out several magazines, bright and wet from snow, from her bosom, “to take several magazines in favor of the children of Germany.” A fifty dollars piece.

    “No, I won’t take it,” Philipp Philippovich answered briefly, glancing at the magazines.

    Perfect amazement was expressed on the faces, and the woman was covered with a cranberry coating.

    “Why do you refuse?”

    - I do not want.

    - You do not sympathize with the children of Germany?

    - Sorry.

    - Are you sorry for fifty dollars?

    - Нет.

    “So why?”

    - I do not want.

    Paused.

    “You know, professor,” the girl spoke, sighing heavily, “if you weren’t a European luminary and you wouldn’t be interceded in the most outrageous way (the blonde pulled her over the edge of the jacket, but she waved it off) of a person whom I’m sure we’ll clarify that you should be arrested.

    - For what? - asked Philipp Philippovich curiously.

    - You are a hater of the proletariat! - the woman said proudly. "(" Heart of a Dog, M. Bulgakov ").
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 15 July 2013 12: 19
      +2
      Yeah, it must decide for itself, only explain to her how to decide - this is the task of parents and the state.
      1. aviamed90
        aviamed90 15 July 2013 12: 23
        -2
        alicante11

        That's it!
        I'm glad you understand my point.
    2. radio operator
      radio operator 15 July 2013 14: 41
      +2
      Quote: aviamed90
      One gets the feeling that the author, under the words "woman" and "mother," presupposes a dumb brute, which is OBLIGED to give birth to please the state and by its order! But this is not the case!
      Gentlemen, we are not in a stable among sows! And we do not need to fulfill the plan of the next five-year plan!
      A woman certainly has the right to decide for herself whether to give birth to her or not. Let's respect her rights.

      I will answer you with the words from this article:
      ... often in such cases, the mind infected with the bacillus of destruction wins. A weak voice, no, a barely audible squeak of a bewitched heart is powerless.

      I wonder why gentlemen liberals bashfully keep silent about the violation of the rights of millions of Russian babies killed in the womb of their mothers? Perhaps because these forgetful and, apparently, not too attentive gentlemen, who so vehemently and unanimously protect the interests of all kinds of perverts and freaks, are vitally interested in the same thing that the hosts feeding them from the master's hand? And are these “forgetfulness” and “carelessness” generously paid for at the expense of our dying future? Among us live happily traitors, these servants of the Devil, and they do not blow into the mustache and do not lead the horn. They just do their simple demonic work.

      1. aviamed90
        aviamed90 16 July 2013 19: 17
        -1
        radio operator

        Then I will answer you.

        Who told you that I am for abortion?
        Of course - this is bad and a sin.

        Have you ever seen my endorsement of abortion? I'm against it too!

        But I believe that a woman HAS THE RIGHT to resolve this issue herself. And without orders from the state.

        And the role and duty of the state is to create such living conditions (financial, environmental, psychological, social, etc.) in order to minimize their number.

        What is not happening.

        And you give me quotes about the liberals!
        1. Slav
          Slav 21 July 2013 10: 26
          0
          You compare a woman to a sow.
          Was your mother a sow too?
  16. stroporez
    stroporez 15 July 2013 11: 57
    0
    it's disgusting to watch when the "leaders" are trying to talk about the demographic situevina, and then they themselves send the lads into battle with 60 rounds on the barrel. I can't say ----- "they took care" .......
  17. ImPerts
    ImPerts 15 July 2013 12: 05
    +2
    Quote: user
    Now, if for every 3 child they were given an apartment according to sanitary standards or a cottage, then the birth rate of FIGs, which Central Asia or the Caucasus surpassed Russia

    How to tell you. I know the young shoots, which the apartment got as a gift for graduation, my parents gave me a car at the end of school, got a job (not a top, but enough for Turkey with ultra-inclusion, Cyprus and Greece too. Even winter ones, they are happy to go somewhere) . And they don’t want children, they didn’t walk up. Career did not. The country cottage was not built. Grandparents want to play around, but ...
  18. strange and pretty meaningless
    strange and pretty meaningless 15 July 2013 12: 16
    +5
    Article plus. Among us live happily traitors, these servants of the Devil, and do not blow into the mustache, and do not lead the horn. They just do their simple demonic work. Maliciously introduce juvenile justice under the guise of protecting the rights of children.
    Yes, that's right.
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 15 July 2013 12: 44
      0
      abyrwalg

      Whom do you specifically mean?

      And about the "servants of the Devil" - I agree!
      Especially good about "mustache", "horns" and "demonic work"!

      You can already formulate the problem! Why not?

      But I do not agree with the author of the article.
  19. radio operator
    radio operator 15 July 2013 13: 18
    +3
    Abortion is a weapon of mass destruction. Today, along with homosexuality, sexual licentiousness, drug addiction, alcoholism and other vices that destroy life itself, they are a legalized way to reduce the total population of Russia. It absolutely does not fit into the head - as consciously as possible, in your right mind and solid memory, decide on this.


    I cannot but quote an excerpt from the Ost master plan: “By means of propaganda we must constantly inspire the population with the idea that it is harmful to have many children ... Along with this, the broadest propaganda of contraceptives should be launched. The distribution of these agents and abortions should in no way be limited. It is necessary to contribute in every possible way to expanding the network of abortion practitioners ... "


    The legalization of abortions was followed by new persecutions of the Orthodox Church, the second wave of collectivization, which finally destroyed the Russian village. The USSR and in terms of the legalization of abortions and in their number came out on top in the world. The country stood almost 40 years waist-deep in the blood of unborn children and fell limply under the onslaught of a sworn enemy, losing goals and a sense of its existence. Maybe we should still have the courage to see this simple causal relationship? Today, when from the once colossal country we inherited only a fairly truncated allotment named Russia. Maybe we should think about the fact that this is far from the limit of delimitation, and also about what will happen next ...


    Absolutely and completely agree with the author!
    Here they are the roots of the destruction of the people in action. Okay, liberal-minded citizens are working out a bribe, but the country's leadership ... Why does it, in fact, follow the liberals?
    Some questions and rapidly growing and growing cemeteries with Russian names on the graves.
  20. Passer
    Passer 15 July 2013 13: 22
    +5
    The state policy on the issue of children has long been understood: children should be born immediately 18 years old, not too smart and not too educated, fit for military service due to health reasons (moreover, education and health should be from birth, the state will not do this) then, immediately after birth, join the army, having served in the army, immediately go to work, or look for work, or sit without work, having reached retirement age - die immediately (so as not to disturb the pension fund with problems of its maintenance). Something like this.
  21. lexe
    lexe 15 July 2013 13: 28
    +3
    Nobody said that the number of women and men who cannot produce offspring is growing sharply. This is against the backdrop of huge profits from pharmaceutical companies. People in schools are already refusing to vaccinate children. A quiet wave of people's suspicion of the authorities will grow. I won’t take the liberty to say that the process is already it is being controlled with might and main ... the process of population regulation by means of hidden viruses and pharmacological agents under the guise of treatment for other diseases. If this goes on, we really will slide into this suspicion into the dark ages. The fact that we eat as if everything is in the know.
    Make taxes on childlessness --- well, well ... Soon it will probably become the main budget item laughing
    Advertising with a dog just struck me ... nothing to add. Although these ersatz substitutes, I already understood why.
  22. Randy
    Randy 15 July 2013 14: 43
    +1
    I am 26 no girl and never was! And I do not care, alone is good, each person has the right to choose what to do and how to live! Under the law, of course
    1. Middle-brother
      Middle-brother 16 July 2013 11: 45
      0
      Quote: Randy
      And I do not care, alone is good, each person has the right to choose what to do and how to live

      This is called selfishness. In 26 years it's time to think about why you exist
  23. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 15 July 2013 15: 19
    -5
    Specifically, we need an influx of people in the air. But. Regarding all the arguments given in the article, in its entirety. Does the author realize that she is calling us all, and her children too ... to kill? Our natural niche is crowded. We are destroying the planet for a single purpose, and this goal is not enrichment at all, as many people think. We destroy everything around us for food production. The worst chemical plants are fertilizer plants. The loudest howl is about GMOs. Could you say, critics, how do we feed 7 billions of people with natural food? Can we recruit a couple of armies of Christ for a radical increase in food supplies?
    So the birth of all children is their massacre, when another debate over land and food begins. And the murder is not nuclear, but accurate, with a rifleman, splinters, mines, bombs ... nothing? So it’s possible, so the author has everything about the sacrament of baptism? Yes, science can still increase food production. But no matter how we cross the limit beyond which sterilization of the planet from completely insolent parasites ...
    With regards to why the Russians give birth reluctantly ... Money is ashes. This is just an excuse covering up a reason that people themselves are not always aware of. They give birth to children in the future. So that they live there, ahead. Unwillingness to have children is simply an understanding (true or false) that in the future children have no place or this place is intolerant, do not take it. Why were there so many children before? Because if you raise a child correctly, give him the knowledge and skills that parents have, he will find his place in the future. So people thought before ...
    And now there are huge problems with this, because a lot of people and themselves then realize that they are completely superfluous in the world. What kind of children are there? Why does the world need another manager? There are already a surplus of resource eaters. It is "beautiful" (in their flawed understanding) to live oneself - yes. But to procreate competitors for yourself ... and now give money to him, and he will grow up, as if he did not take away a warm chair from dad ... No, no offspring ...
    1. Svobodny
      Svobodny 15 July 2013 15: 47
      +3
      Quote: Mikhail3
      7 billion

      ALL 7 BILLION. can fit within the Moscow Ring Road, giving each 1 sq. km. meter! These are mathematical calculations.
      Words about overpopulation are deliberate propaganda.
      Quote: Mikhail3
      Resource eaters and so on.

      140 million people, every ninth of whom is a Muscovite ... It's a good overabundance ... Look around, it's summer now - berries, mushrooms, greens - a riot of life. And we all groan that we do not have enough resources, and we need absolutely what is called "tie in a knot". And this is the opinion of a healthy Russian peasant! ...)))) Isn't it funny to you yourself?
    2. alicante11
      alicante11 15 July 2013 16: 13
      +2
      Rave. It is simply necessary not to enrich thousands of families in the world, but to develop science. To find options for intensive and extensive expansion of the human environment.
    3. lexe
      lexe 15 July 2013 16: 34
      +1
      Do you understand what you wrote Michael?
      You just clearly voiced the hateful model of society ...
      Why do you think such people as Trotsky, Lenin, Chubais, Hitler and others appear ... - just when those thoughts that you have just voiced pass through yourself.
      This is called zombie and ideological recruitment of statesmen.
      But I do not blame you for this. The idea is logical for an atheistic rational ear and is built, it seems, on the iron arguments of a limb. -And is the iron arguments?
      Instead of encountering a problem with an open visor, with large families, breakthrough medicine, normal products, they solve the problem quietly. Do you understand that only when the people themselves are completely aware!this problem then he just massively!will sit down for textbooks and will not just bite science but bite laughing And this will be the era of great scientific discoveries — why do we refuse this?
      But space is endless ...
      And the last ... We are not at the stage of progress now to decide who is garbage and who is worthy of life ... Breaking the millennia-old traditions, we are ruining the invaluable things that we have, the people. And the people are a complex organizational form, where the loss of any chain is reflected in everything.
      Mendeleev was the encrypted code of the Russian peasant numerous people. It was our genius. We will not have more of this, but we must strive!
  24. Umnichka
    Umnichka 15 July 2013 16: 59
    0
    The question, of course, is a complex and delicate one, but thanks to our numerous "liberal friends" and others like them, the situation is close to catastrophic in the near future. I used to have a positive attitude towards abortions, etc., but if we do not strictly (for example, only for medical and other reasons) restrict abortions, including understanding the possibility of abuse, we will soon create a situation where we will be in the literal sense of the word to cut, like rams, representatives of more nascent peoples, and all our today's fears and searches for arguments, etc., will be terribly caricatured to us.
  25. Petrovich 0881
    Petrovich 0881 15 July 2013 18: 26
    +2
    1. think about the desire to have a child before it appears. and if before the mind it was not enough to take responsibility on the content of education, etc. on yourself and do not whine. Well, if the state in which the trip throws, it will be good.
    2. And the drunk giving birth every 1,5-2 years for a child and then she is deprived of rights against him almost immediately, also prohibit abortion? her children contain no-ah on our taxes. and who then leaves the child’s / orphanage?
  26. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 15 July 2013 21: 45
    0
    ... Alas, too often in such cases, the mind infected with the bacillus of destruction wins ...
    ... heal late. Just format ...
  27. dustycat
    dustycat 15 July 2013 23: 25
    -1
    The best cure for abortion is castration.
    Of course, saving the life of a newborn is very baarodno.
    And who will help this unborn not to get into the ZK because his mother simply will not have time to raise him because she will need to earn a living for herself and her child and for kindergarten for him.
    Or another option. Asocial mother who gets pregnant as a cold catches a cold and from whom she has no idea because she does not dry out.
    If the child is lucky, he has a chance to become a man.
    But the reality is that one of thousands is lucky.
    And I do not need Bach to bring his syphilic mother of a well-known profession.
    He is one of a thousand.
    Want to stop abortion - eliminate social press.
    Or castrate yourself and your children.
  28. shpuntik
    shpuntik 16 July 2013 01: 39
    +4
    Yes, really ... Blame today's girls? It is difficult for them: there is propaganda from all sides, and we men condone. And many adult men do not understand the essence, although they have daughters.
    And, after all, the great apes and other monkeys have no hymen. Then people, why is she ?! That would not be monkeys.
    And I appeal to men who say to a woman with a child, or an obviously married lady: "Girl, forgive me, how much is this?", While you lower the word "girl" below the plinth, devalue it. Choose a different compliment, there are tons of synonyms.
    When virginity will be appreciated, then society will not hurt, as it is now. And if not, it will be even worse, and today's life will seem like paradise. Because something that is contrary to God will not remain without consequences. It always has been. I apologize for the sermon ...