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13 July 1993 of the year ...

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Exactly 20 years ago 13 July 1993, the 12-I border post of Sarigora of the Moscow border detachment of the Red Banner Central Asian Border District stood in the way of a pack of thugs. Zastava fought over 10 hours of hours in complete surroundings. When all the possibilities of defense were exhausted, ammunition began to run out, all the survivors were wounded or contused, it was decided to break through from the encirclement. 18 people left the environment. At the outpost, the 22 border guard and the 3-e 201 troops of the infantry division were killed.


13 July 1993 of the year ...


From the 201 reconnaissance reports of the motorized rifle division: “12 groups with a total number of up to 14 people (mortars - 200, recoilless guns - 2, PC installations - 4 – 5, RPM - 6, XNGX, NGM - 30, RPM-10, 12) , machine guns - XNUMX – XNUMX).

Corey Hamidullo provided direct leadership. During the period of combat operations, 12 radio correspondents were working on the 10 station of the outpost. ” I will quote the official statement: “Analysis of the incoming data and tactics of the enemy’s actions show that the main purpose of the armed action was to destroy the 12 outpost and create a bridgehead in the 11 and 12 outposts for a further large-scale attack on the Kulyab direction and the implementation of plans” Government of the Republic of Tajikistan in Exile, aimed at accelerating the withdrawal of the Russian military contingent from the Republic of Tajikistan, which would enable them in the near future to overthrow of the legitimate government. Conducting a series of such actions at the border will cause political resonance among the public of the Russian Federation. ”

From 48, the men who were at the outpost at the beginning of the battle: 18, led by Lieutenant Merzlikin, broke through to the group that came to the rescue; 1 was found at the outpost after the militants left; 4 went to the outpost the next day; 25 killed (22 border guard and 3 troops of the 201 Motorized Rifle Division). The militants left their dead in the area of ​​the 35 outpost, and their losses amounted to an allegedly up to 70 people.

By presidential decree No. 1050 of 19 July 1993, for the courage and heroism in the battle at 12, six border guards were awarded the title Hero of Russia: Private Sergey Borin (posthumously), Sergeant Sergey Evlanov Sergeant Vladimir Elizarov (posthumously), Lieutenant Andrei Merzlikin, Sergeant Sergey Sushchenko (posthumously), Private Igor Filkin (posthumously).

The dead: Senior Lieutenant Mayboroda Mikhail Viktorovich, Senior Sergeant Sych Sergey Vladimirovich, Sergeant Yelizarov Vladimir Fedorovich, Sergeant Kologreev Yury Vladimirovich, Sergeant Sushchenko Sergey Aleksandrovich, Sergeant Kusyunbaev Ayrat, Private Chashchin Andrey Viktorovich, Private Kolotygin Sergey Alexandrovich, Private Verevkin Andrey Andrey Dmitry Leonidovich, Private Kulikov Mikhail Gennadyevich, Private Petrochenko Alexander Vladimirovich, Private Filkin Igor Viktorovich, Private Borin Sergey Nikolaevich, Private Ul Yibin, Vladimir, Vladimir, Vladimir, Vladimir, Vladimir Diff.

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  1. serge-68-68
    14 July 2013 07: 26
    36
    I will add: the destruction of the outpost was facilitated by its poor location - next to the dominant heights, from which shelling was organized (in this sense, objectively speaking, minus the head of the outpost, who did not provide control over them with secrets). Today, the outpost is restored and placed on the mountain.
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 14 July 2013 08: 37
      39
      This is usually - in our squad the warehouses and garage were opposite an unguarded hill and 1 person. with a barrel or PTR could make the whole part of tramps and fire victims. Regarding neither trenches nor shelters, a column is being built for 35 minutes. the rocket flies 8 ... If only there was no war. And the floor in the new barracks was destroyed in six months by washing (we washed an unpainted tree every half hour with wire and soda). The opinion about the officers' brains is obscene, what to do with them in a war is illegal.
      1. experienced
        experienced 14 July 2013 11: 50
        13
        Extra proof that the borders need to be settled on their own territory so that the border guards are not left "for slaughter" when they are attacked both from abroad and from the "rear", and they firmly knew that their task was to withstand a certain time before the main forces arrived , which will "sweep away" any aggressor and at the same time had the opportunity to literally have artillery and air support in a matter of minutes.
        1. Dober
          Dober 14 July 2013 14: 10
          18
          Quote: seasoned
          borders must be arranged on their territory,

          Ideally, the VD should not conduct "on its own territory" at all. An example of amers (mean).
          The analysis of the incoming data and the tactics of the enemy’s actions indicate that the main objective of the armed action was the destruction of the 12th outpost and the creation of a bridgehead in sections of the 11th and 12th outposts for a further large-scale attack on the Kulyab direction

          What does this mean ??? (I am not asking you personally). That unwashed, worn out by the sand, shaggy Basmachi can seize bridgeheads for conducting full-scale wars against the RUSSIAN TROOPS ??? Even on the territories of other countries. And here I agree with the Jews, who rely on the opinions of "international human rights organizations", and who raise the air force and hammer, hammer everyone who just tried to threaten them.
          Forgive me the relatives and friends of the victims, but it was a spit in the direction of Russia. Savory, fatty spit. The country's leadership did not even get tired of it. And the boys and parents washed some with tears, and some with blood ...

          I will never forget an incident in a cafe, about three years ago, a young strong man (slightly drunk), seeing a crowd of Tajiks entering the cafe, yelled - "I fought with them there, they shot at us, killed us, promised to come to our houses, for our wives and children, and now they are already here. Have we lost the war, and they are the winners? "
          They tied him up, pushed him into a corner, did not allow "justice to be done". And he, lying on the floor, under the weight of his friends, wiped a miserly tear on his shoulder, and with his free hand he fiercely and helplessly thrashed into the tiled floor ...

          Shl. And the Tajiks didn't even leave. They just slightly stopped grinning "at the wild shuravi" ...
          1. cdrt
            cdrt 15 July 2013 16: 04
            +7
            Yeah, but one of the Tajiks, who was carrying cartridges from the warehouse to soldiers in the trenches for the 12th rounds.
            Mirzlikin also said about him that they survived thanks to him, now he works in the Russian Federation as a guest worker, he is fighting off the cops with the Russian order ...
            Why not remember that.
          2. nov_tech.vrn
            nov_tech.vrn 18 July 2013 15: 55
            0
            which means that when the brave guys - Sobchak, Gavriil Popov and comrades, helped the "Islamic democrats" in their activities to destabilize Tajikistan, the "opposition" forces were supported by Afghan "friends", the Saudis, etc., etc., by the way, and Khattab lit up there, sorry he was not nailed then. And as a result, our border guards turned out to be practically the only force preventing the "Islamic democrats" and drug lords from giving orders on the border of Tajikistan and not only, but about what the "Islamic democrats" did, they do not change.
            1. valokordin
              valokordin 20 July 2013 08: 56
              0
              Quote: nov_tech.vrn
              which means that when the brave guys - Sobchak, Gavriil Popov and comrades, helped the "Islamic democrats" in their activities to destabilize Tajikistan, the "opposition" forces were supported by Afghan "friends", the Saudis, etc., etc., by the way, and Khattab lit up there, sorry he was not nailed then. And as a result, our border guards turned out to be practically the only force preventing the "Islamic democrats" and drug lords from giving orders on the border of Tajikistan and not only, but about what the "Islamic democrats" did, they do not change.

              These S.U.Ki did everything to overthrow and trample the Soviet regime and the Communists, although they themselves were, and some of their last ones wore mink coats from their borders from abroad. God, what country got into it, how much blood spilled from these Judas.
        2. nov_tech.vrn
          nov_tech.vrn 18 July 2013 15: 40
          0
          when these outposts were set up, no one in a nightmare would have dreamed of attacking an outpost of the USSR, therefore there were other criteria, the climate there is sharply continental, there are strong winds, you don’t get any material support on the hill, you are waterless, and you present the outfit before serving, then uphill, then from the mountain. There is only one way out, on a hill to keep a fortified point for cover.
      2. Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon 14 July 2013 12: 31
        +5
        Quote: Volkhov
        This is usually - in our squad the warehouses and garage were opposite an unguarded hill and 1 person. with a barrel or PTR could make the whole part of tramps and fire victims. Regarding neither trenches nor shelters, a column is being built for 35 minutes. the rocket flies 8 ... If only there was no war. And the floor in the new barracks was destroyed in six months by washing (we washed an unpainted tree every half hour with wire and soda). The opinion about the officers' brains is obscene, what to do with them in a war is illegal.


        The officers are different - a lot of worthy and experienced, but many tyrants. A good officer is the key to the survival of the unit.
        1. xan
          xan 15 July 2013 15: 50
          +1
          Quote: Blackgrifon
          A good officer is the key to the survival of the unit.

          Commander - the fate of the state (Clausewitz or Moltke, one of these)
      3. Sanyl
        Sanyl 15 July 2013 10: 16
        0
        You are talking nonsense, dear. While in front of a computer, do not consider yourself smarter than soldiers and officers who assess the situation on the spot, make decisions and fight against the enemy.
      4. cdrt
        cdrt 15 July 2013 16: 01
        0
        You can also recall that on the 12th they handed over all the ammunition to the warehouse (by order of the command), which took off into the air at the beginning of the battle. On the 11th chief of the outpost did not obey the order - and they took the battle in a completely different way.
        Interestingly, is there any connection between the order of ammunition and the total removal from office of the border guards after the tragedy of the 12th?
    2. Airman
      Airman 14 July 2013 21: 09
      -5
      Quote: serge-68-68
      I will add: the destruction of the outpost was facilitated by its poor location - next to the dominant heights, from which shelling was organized (in this sense, objectively speaking, minus the head of the outpost, who did not provide control over them with secrets). Today, the outpost is restored and placed on the mountain.


      And my question is, if Tajikistan has become an independent state, why on earth did our border guards defend THEIR BORDER? GREAT POLICY? Perhaps, but 201 divisions would have been enough. These are hostages of the treacherous policy of EBN. Eternal memory to the brave warriors!
      1. Bekzat
        Bekzat 16 July 2013 12: 38
        +2
        Greetings to all, for air defense, our border guards also stood there, on the borders of Tajikistan, and they also shot. As they say, it’s better to stop the enemy there than to drive them out of their land.
    3. Denis
      Denis 15 July 2013 00: 19
      +3
      Quote: serge-68-68
      Add: the destruction of the outpost contributed to its poor location
      And betrayal!
      On May 25, 1993, the Treaty of Friendship and Mutual Assistance between Tajikistan and Russia was approved ... In fact, this meant that the Russian military was entrusted with protecting the most complex Tajik-Afghan sector.
      What a tolerance, "just an impartial moment"
      There was another unpleasant moment. When it became clear that the outpost was not a simple raid, but an almost full-scale invasion of the Afghan army, the crews of an armored personnel carrier and a tank of the Tajik army refused to move on. The armored vehicles of the National Security Committee of the republic turned around and drove back.The Tajik Guard Forces also did not want to help
      And who dishonors the guard calling these these?
      Although someone is pushing us to disinfect
      The 7 airborne assault brigade of Tajikistan is the most experienced special forces of Central Asia
      Wai, trouble!
      What else can I say, since these are the most experienced ...
      And the same daring?
  2. 420482
    420482 14 July 2013 07: 33
    19
    There is nothing more to add. And so it says. The guys proved once again that we are dying, but we are not giving up.
    1. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 14 July 2013 07: 51
      22
      Everlasting memory. Kingdom of heaven. The warrior who died on the battlefield enters Paradise. So my grandmother remembered the dead border guards.
      Glory to the heroes! Everlasting memory ! Honor a moment of silence.
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 14 July 2013 08: 56
        +9
        Quote: Captain Vrungel
        Everlasting memory. Kingdom of heaven.

  3. Garrin
    Garrin 14 July 2013 07: 56
    33

    Always, when I look, at the very tears welling in my eyes. ETERNAL GLORY AND ETERNAL MEMORY OF GUYS !!!
    1. piotr534
      piotr534 14 July 2013 13: 11
      +9
      Always, when I look, at the very tears welling in my eyes. ETERNAL GLORY AND ETERNAL MEMORY OF GUYS !!!
      This is how real Heroes look like, ordinary boys do not stand out in anything in ordinary life. Not like those animals writing on the backs of foam all the abominations from a recent publication. ETERNAL MEMORY OF HEROES !!!
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    2. Ulysses
      Ulysses 14 July 2013 15: 46
      +9
      I watched this film many times.
      Every time there are tears in my eyes. At 50 years old. And not ashamed.
      Real heroes.
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 15 July 2013 16: 08
        +1
        Mirzlikin - a model for officers
    3. silver_roman
      silver_roman 14 July 2013 17: 33
      +3
      there are simply no words ... it hurts so much that the lives of our guys, men, our soldiers are so low.
      Well, I do not understand point-blank: there is reconnaissance, it is clear that where there is an outpost, there is also the likelihood of its breaking through and destruction .. and no one will attack the fortified object with inferior forces ... why was there one unfortunate infantry fighting vehicle ??? and rightly said: who ever came up with the idea to build an outpost in the pit ??? this is an ideal place for shelling. Thank God, GLORY TO GOD that at least some guys took their feet !!!
      I want to kill like that, but as you start to think who is to blame for this, they ask so much 9 mm to the Bosko right away!

      ETERNAL MEMORY, OUR GUYS — MEN — OUR HEROES AND DEFENDERS !!!!!!!
  4. seller trucks
    seller trucks 14 July 2013 08: 47
    18
    13 July 1993 year

    In July, the Judicial Collegium of the Republic of Tajikistan decided to ban the activity of all opposition parties in the country. This decision caused great bitterness among the leadership of Afghanistan and the commanders of Tajik illegal armed groups.
    They understood that time wasn’t working for them and decided to destroy the 12-th frontier post “Sarigory”, creating a bridgehead there for further large-scale attack on the city of Kulyab and access to the plains of Tajikistan. Moreover, they had planned in advance atrocities and abuse of the bodies of border guards in order to arouse among the inhabitants of Russia a public opinion requiring the withdrawal of the Russian military from Tajikistan.
    The operation to destroy the border post was called "Retribution," in revenge for unsuccessful attempts to break through the border in the sections of the Moscow and Pyanj border detachments. The direct command of the destruction of the outposts was assumed by the leader of the Islamic Party of Afghanistan, Kari Hamidullo, and the commander of the 55 infantry division, Kazi Kabir.
    Now many newspapers claim that a gang attacked the outpost. This is not entirely true. 14 gang units and soldiers of the 55th infantry division of the regular army of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan took part in the attack on the Sarigors. A total of about 400 people, armed with 12 machine guns, 4 recoilless guns, five rocket launchers, 30 hand grenade launchers, two mortars.
    There were 48 border guards at the outpost.
    Sandwiched by the mountains and shot from the territory of Afghanistan, the outpost "Sarigora" (in translation - "pit in the mountains") was an ideal target. In addition, help to the border guards could come only along one road that the Mujahideen had previously mined and set up numerous ambushes on it.
    In the dead of night, at 3 hours and 15 minutes, the operational duty officer of the Moscow border detachment received information about the beginning of the movement of several groups of mujahideen near the border river Pyanj, and about the impending attack on the 11 gate or another nearby border post. By this time, there was no longer any connection with the 12 gate.
    At 3 hours 50 minutes at the 12 outpost “Sarigory” the dog Dick became worried and the sentries noticed people walking from the side of the Kaferkash gorge. A heavy fire of machine guns, recoilless guns, mortars, grenade launchers and rocket launchers fell on the outpost. Fire was fought from all surrounding heights and from the territory of Afghanistan.
    At 4 hours 15 minutes, the frontier detachment command from the post at 2816 height received a message about explosions and shooting in the vicinity of the Sorigory outpost. The border detachment was raised by alarm.
    ... The BMP-2 crew did not even manage to get into the "armor". For a long time, taking positions near the car, the crew repulsed the attacks of the attackers, who were desperately trying to capture it. In these minutes, the whole flurry of fire dushmans fell on the car crew. All three crew members of the combat vehicle - Kusyunbaev, Nikolashkin and Khalitov died in the first minutes of the battle. But it was they who took over the fire of the Dushmans and allowed the border guards to take up defense along the perimeter of the outpost.
    The head of the outpost, Mikhail Mayboroda, ordered the border guards to take up a circular defense, and he himself took a position near the gates of the outpost, holding back dushmans with fire from an anti-tank machine gun. In addition to him, machine-gun fire was conducted by Private S. Borin, Private I. Filkin and Sergeant Y. Kologreev. It was along these border guards that the main fire of the Mujahideen was sent, who tried to destroy primarily the machine-gun points.
    Three times Dushmans threw grenades into the trench in which Private S. Borin fired. But seriously wounded, Sergei continued to machine-gun fire forcing the attackers to squeeze into the ground. He died when an abandoned grenade literally tore it apart.
    1. igor_ua
      igor_ua 14 July 2013 09: 10
      13
      You delicately kept silent about the fact that
      . Before the outpost was only four kilometers. But the convoy going to the aid went these kilometers at a snail's pace. When it became clear that the whole road was lined with modern mines, ambushes were arranged along the road, and not only an attack was made on the Sarigora outpost, but an armed invasion of the Afghan army in Tajikistan - the crews of the tank and the armored personnel carrier belonging to the forces of the National Security Committee of Tajikistan flatly refused to move on. The armored vehicles of the Tajik army turned around and without firing a single shot, turned backThe forces of the Republic of Tajikistan's guard, which closed the reserve column as soon as it ran into an ambush, also refused to go to the aid of the defending outpost.
      1. igor_ua
        igor_ua 14 July 2013 09: 18
        28
        Another quote from that article
        Dmitry Razumovsky
        Many of the readers probably know the name of Ulyanovsk Dmitry Razumovsky, an officer of the special forces of the FSB Vympel. But few people know that the battle at the Sarigora outpost dramatically changed his life.
        Then Dmitry served there in the Moscow border detachment as the head of the outpost of the air assault group. Mikhail Mayboroda was his best friend. D. Razumovsky even named his son in his honor - Mikhail. Dmitry often visited the outpost of his friend, and, knowing the specifics of the border troops, I am sure that he was familiar with his fellow countryman from Staraya Mayna, Yura Kologreev.
        After the battle at the 12th outpost, Captain D. Razumovsky wrote a letter to the country's leaders, where he openly said that the border guards on the Afghan border were practically forgotten and abandoned by the country. “We are ready to serve you with cannon fodder in the future,” he wrote, “we just don’t know what interests our friends are dying for. Where is your concern for the Russians, Russia? ” This letter, under the headline “The Kremlin forbade me to avenge my friends. But I will not fulfill this order ”was published in“ Komsomolskaya Pravda ”. After the publication, D. Razumovsky was summoned to the commander of the border troops in Tajikistan and sacked.
        A year later, he will serve in Vympel and die in Beslan, carrying children from a blazing school in his arms.
        1. Sandov
          Sandov 16 July 2013 13: 19
          0
          Despite traitors like EBN, our guys showed themselves to be heroes. It is a pity that heroism has to be shown in spite of such EBN.
      2. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 14 July 2013 12: 04
        +8
        Quote: igor_ua
        You delicately kept silent about the fact that
        the crews of the tank and the armored personnel carrier belonging to the forces of the National Security Committee of Tajikistan flatly refused to move on. [/ b] [/ i]

        For this it was necessary to subject them to decimation.
        And comb the territory of the AF to a depth of 50 km with Smerch installations
        Impotent government, what do you say ....
        1. Ulysses
          Ulysses 14 July 2013 16: 04
          +7
          The most rampant drunken Yeltsin democracy.
          In Moscow, everyone shared something, the real heroes of Russia were considered crazy.
          Bitter time
        2. PValery53
          PValery53 28 July 2013 19: 08
          0
          "Five-mation" or even "one-off" would solve the "problem" ...
      3. Revolver
        Revolver 14 July 2013 20: 16
        +3
        Quote: igor_ua
        the crews of the tank and the armored personnel carrier belonging to the forces of the National Security Committee of Tajikistan flatly refused to move on. The armored vehicles of the Tajik army turned around and, without firing a single shot, turned back the Guard forces of the Republic of Tajikistan, which closed the reserve column as soon as it ran into an ambush, also refused to go to the aid of the defending outpost.

        I never use such expressions in relation to normal people. But these are not people. These are chocks intimately consumed.
    2. silver_roman
      silver_roman 14 July 2013 17: 26
      0
      where was the aviation ??? where there were su-25,24, mi-24, that at least that-22 ... what nonsense ..... ???? why do we value iron more than people ????
      the territory of Tajikistan - do not care about it ... Americans have long spit on the borders of states. This is evidence in Pakistan!
    3. Corsair
      Corsair 16 July 2013 12: 01
      0
      Quote: seller trucks
      The head of the outpost, Mikhail Mayboroda, ordered the border guards to take up a circular defense, and he himself took a position near the gates of the outpost, holding back dushmans with fire from anti-tank machine gun.

      Typo?
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 19 July 2013 19: 16
        -2
        large-caliber
      2. biznaw
        biznaw 20 July 2013 23: 25
        0
        Perhaps the PCT meant or Vladimirov.
  5. seller trucks
    seller trucks 14 July 2013 08: 48
    26
    Several times the trench of Igor Filkin was thrown with grenades. But the border guard fought despite serious injuries. When Igor ran out of ammunition, Dushmans were able to approach him from the back and release two rounds of ammunition into him.
    Yuri Kologreev fired from a machine gun protecting his object - a communications center. The Mujahideen were already on the territory of the outpost and threw grenades at the border guards. In the trench of Sergeant Kologreev, three ergadesh grenades exploded, tearing his arm and leg off with fragments. Dushmans approached the bleeding sergeant and shot him point blank. So describes the death of our countryman military commissar of the magazine "Border Guard". To be honest, I’ll give you another version of his death that I heard from Yuri’s fellow soldiers - “The guys said that during the battle, when all the survivors gathered in the area of ​​the water barrel and decided how to break through, in the area of ​​the dog lover, our machine gun still beat. The guys filled the stores with cartridges, and Kologreev gathered there. There, Sergeant Elizarov fought his last battle, and they were friendly. Taking cartridges for him, Yura asked the guys to wait a while until they break through with Elizarov. He went along the trench towards the lower warehouse, and at that moment the spirits again began a heavy shelling and, under cover, began to jump into the trench. Kologreev knocked down two, and, waving his hand, ran to the dog lover. They did not see him alive anymore. Such is the fate. ”
    At the outpost, Y. Kologreev’s best friend was Volodya Elizarov, the commander of the dog service department.
    When the battle began and the BMP-2 crew began to repel the attacks of the Dushmans, the wounded sergeant V. Elizarov hastened to help the crew. Together with motorized rifles, he repulsed the attacks of the Mujahideen, and after the death of the crew he moved to the cages of service dogs and took up defense there.
    For several hours, being seriously wounded, Sergeant V. Elizarov restrained the attack of the Dushmans. When the outpost was released, 16 bodies of Afghan militants were found near the nursery.
    Volodya Elizarov died ... The Dushmans, seeing desperate resistance, threw grenades at his trench, and, after reaching the border guard, they cut off his head, still alive but wounded, and threw it into the enclosure for dogs.
    The head of the outpost M. Mayboroda died at the beginning of the battle after his spine was damaged by fragments. Three days before this fight, Mikhail turned 25 years old.
    The outpost was taken over by Lieutenant A. Merzlikin. “The outpost led the battle until the ammunition and grenades ran out,” he later recalled. “After it became clear that there was nowhere to wait for help in the near future, and those who remained at the outpost were inevitable death, I decided to break through . In a moment of a short lull, I gathered all the surviving fighters, talked about my decision to break through. Several people who found it difficult to move independently volunteered to cover our retreat ... "
    In 14.20, a group of surviving border guards began a breakthrough through the environment. The battle was already going on about 11 hours. All surviving border guards were injured. There were practically no rounds - many in the store had only 3-5 rounds left. Lieutenant Merzlikin was shell-shocked. Going to his own, he found it difficult to even remember the names of the border guards who heroically died at the outpost. What surnames, if to the question of a journalist - how old are you? -he turned to a standing fighter and asked him how old I am. He was 24 of the year.

    http://117-pogo.ucoz.ru/publ/1-1-0-5
  6. Normal
    Normal 14 July 2013 09: 23
    11
    Remember, remember ... keep quiet ....
  7. omsbon
    omsbon 14 July 2013 09: 32
    22
    The feat of limitation does not have! Glory and eternal memory to our children border guards!
    The memory of the people has cursed, that Moscow city of Volokol, which at that time was drinking in the Kremlin and plundering the country!
    1. igor_ua
      igor_ua 14 July 2013 09: 38
      10
      And the current most popular president
      that Moscow with about l about h that at that time drank in the Kremlin and plundered the country!
      buried with honor. Such are the paradoxes.
      And the relatives of that bastard from the curses are neither hot nor cold. In other orbits, they spin
      in other dimensions
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 14 July 2013 12: 08
        +4
        Quote: igor_ua
        buried with honor.

        They didn’t ask anyone for Chechnya or Tajikistan. They all died quietly and peacefully with their deaths, or are still working.
    2. Normal
      Normal 14 July 2013 11: 41
      +6
      Quote: omsbon
      that Moscow with in about l about h,

      Or maybe the Sverdlovsk bastard? Or like this: the Ural bastard. How? Eye and hearing does not break?
      Or if you are a bastard, then of course Moscow? So it’s easier and more familiar to us. So we seem right and good to ourselves, but the whole bastard, the stump is clear, in Moscow. We bastard here, in Moscow, breed, educate, educate and put on the throne so that the rest of Russia believes in its purity and holiness.
      1. Eugene
        Eugene 14 July 2013 12: 45
        -2
        Did you serve with Muscovites?
        1. Normal
          Normal 14 July 2013 14: 43
          +2
          Quote: eugene
          Did you serve with Muscovites?

          But what about? Served. Even himself from the suburbs.
          I remember once on a mountain exit after a long march our company commander (and how he loved Caucasians and Asians ... he just didn’t kiss him in the sales office) yelled at the “dead” young Lezgin: “You are Lezgin ?! Lezgin, you are a maskvach! And here he is, and was pointing a finger at Za-va from Odintsov near Moscow - Lezgin! "
          Lezgin sweated, shaking his lips, twisted his eyes with no understanding and was silent.
          But Zasov, who did not even sweat, did not become silent: No, I’m not Lezgin, he says, I’m a Muscovite, but he is Lezgin.
          What’s the matter with Muscovites, I’m with hoch .... sorry, I served with Ukrainians. There was also a certain opinion about them in the army. Is not it?
          But all this has nothing to do with this issue.
        2. deputy ___ watered
          deputy ___ watered 14 July 2013 14: 57
          +1
          we were told that rooks ___________-Muscovites arrived again. (to the extent of education to enter)
          1. Normal
            Normal 14 July 2013 15: 22
            +1
            Quote: deputy ___ watered
            we were told that rooks ___________-Muscovites arrived again.

            Underpolit?
            1. Mairos
              Mairos 15 July 2013 14: 57
              +3
              What kind of people are we ??? A Chechen always stands up for Dag, Dag for Ingush - they can support each other, and we?
              They were divided into Ukrainians, Russians, Belarusians - there was only one people. Water shit each other. Now it’s already inside, it’s gone ... Pomors, Cossacks, Urals .. they turn out to be not Russian at all now .. what's next? Invasion of Batu remember! When the Ryazan was burned, the Vladimir prince rubbed his hands quite enough .. On Kalka, each one steered on its own .. taxied,. Again we go on the same rake? Or to start helping each other, you have to become a minority in your own country?
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 14 July 2013 21: 02
        +2
        If my memory serves me, EBN was under Secretary of the Hunchback 1m MGK CPSU. And before that, yes, he taxied in Sverdlovsk, and, by the way, the Ipatiev house was demolished from his submission. And then he held the candle so sweetly, as if the saint had been communed to his face.
  8. Letterksi
    Letterksi 14 July 2013 09: 55
    +6
    But the current government played with migration and multiculturalism. I forgot the recent past. He probably wants this to happen in all of Russia, and even in the presence of women and children

    Eternal glory!
  9. ildar335
    ildar335 14 July 2013 09: 59
    10
    guys-Heroes !!! watched the video and cried ...
  10. Krilion
    Krilion 14 July 2013 10: 12
    +4
    were there any objective reasons for the fact that in 10 hours of battle there was no support for aviation or, for example, landing?
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 15 July 2013 16: 18
      0
      Google to help - in the second link, in my opinion, the film about these events is documentary.
      There is also an interview with the head of the Moscow frontier detachment (this is to him Merzlikin reports that they are survivors from the outpost). We started with an attempt to land the landing, helicopters were fired several times, it became clear that they would not be allowed to land.
      Therefore, we went along the roads.
  11. Siberian
    Siberian 14 July 2013 10: 22
    +2
    Quote: Krilion
    were there any objective reasons for the fact that in 10 hours of battle there was no support for aviation or, for example, landing?

    That's the thing, what is the reason? Maybe someone needed this delay?
  12. erased
    erased 14 July 2013 10: 26
    10
    Truly, battle is not for glory. The guys stood to their death and did not allow the enemy to defeat. Five-fold advantage in manpower, powerful weapons - and still ours survived! Glory to them forever and ever!
    In the past 5 years, several films have been made based on this battle, but why didn’t the story be made? The feat of fighters deserves to be glorified.
  13. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 14 July 2013 10: 51
    +6
    I am always amazed at the spirit of our soldiers. In fact, there is nothing to say, there are no such words.
    1. biznaw
      biznaw 20 July 2013 23: 40
      0
      Do not be amazed, in such a situation you yourself will remember Svyatoslav "The dead have no shame!"
      That is why Russia is independent, unlike all other "free and democratic" countries, a fresh example with the inspection of the board of the President of Bolivia, when the European leaders behaved like sixes at the shouts of the authorities.
      Even the struggling alcoholic did not fall to such a point, although he was recruited, but he remembered about the one who did not have a shame too, with remnants of consciousness.
  14. creak
    creak 14 July 2013 10: 58
    +7
    Just like in 1941, the battle was completely surrounded and there was no one to help. Who wants to find a way, who does not want to search for a reason. Unfortunately this case is far from the only one .. Since we did not rip off the shoulder straps and did not put them on trial, we are not guaranteed from repeating this. And the fighters glory and eternal memory.
    1. Dober
      Dober 14 July 2013 13: 32
      +4
      Quote: ranger
      we are not guaranteed to repeat such

      Not guaranteed. Be sure. The whole story proves it. Poke your finger on the calendar for military history - you will either "red" day or in "the black", and often in both at the same time.
      Where to grieve and where to rejoice is a big question. So everything is mixed up.
      And you need to remember constantly. Learn from mistakes. And get ready ...
  15. GUSAR
    GUSAR 14 July 2013 11: 05
    +4
    Eternal memory to the guys ...
  16. Maj.
    Maj. 14 July 2013 11: 08
    +4
    Eternal memory to the Heroes !!!
  17. sokrat-71
    sokrat-71 14 July 2013 11: 22
    +4
    Eternal memory to the heroes of the border guards!
  18. LaGlobal
    LaGlobal 14 July 2013 11: 31
    +5
    Honor and praise to the guys! Let the earth rest in peace!
  19. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 14 July 2013 11: 58
    +2
    They gave the BMP, but no helicopter ... I personally think that every outpost should have a helicopter, at least at the nearest strong point.
    1. experienced
      experienced 14 July 2013 12: 02
      +3
      Quote: KG_patriot_last
      They gave the BMP, but no helicopter ... I personally think that every outpost should have a helicopter, at least at the nearest strong point.

      The frontier post is located on the territory of a sovereign (alien) country, which helicopter? The Tajiks did not render their support, nor did they support their aircraft ... If only they would send the maize to drop cartridges
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 14 July 2013 12: 12
        10
        Quote: seasoned
        The frontier post is located on the territory of a sovereign (alien) country, which helicopter?

        And who needs this? If you want to be protected, allocate a piece of land from the Kulyab region to place a pair of divisions with an airfield.
        We all have fun with these bays
        1. kotvov
          kotvov 19 July 2013 19: 22
          -2
          everyone considers himself a strategist
      2. Hleb
        Hleb 14 July 2013 13: 22
        +3
        The frontier post is located on the territory of a sovereign (alien) country, which helicopter?
        experienced read yourself again
        1. experienced
          experienced 14 July 2013 13: 28
          -3
          Quote: Gleb
          experienced read yourself again

          Well? Only the component cannot understand that there is no sense in holding a helicopter, aviation and nuclear weapons at the frontier post, and the extraterritoriality of the frontier post and military base does not extend to the entire territory (airspace) of the country in which they are located. However, those who designate themselves to be a component of RA cannot, by definition, know this. lol
          Continue to component ...
          Henceforth, contact you: I will not herd pigs with you. On you with the esaul "purr" hi There are forum users with whom I’m talking to you. You don’t enter their list negative
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 14 July 2013 13: 43
            +5
            you are a seasoned balabol. and even illiterate. Only as you put it "komponet" can write that Russia cannot have aviation in Tajikistan, because it is a sovereign state.
            but say our squadron today is probably there incognito yes? and probably in violation of all international standards in 93g. the 201st included the 41st separate helicopter squadron, and the Russian Air Force aviation group was created
            and Esaula still dragged ...)
            there is no sense in holding a helicopter, aviation and nuclear weapons at a border post
            but in the frontier detachment it makes sense ??? how did I fly from the frontier detachment? no one here burst outposts. It’s enough to have support either in the detachment or in the division / base
            1. experienced
              experienced 14 July 2013 13: 51
              -7
              Quote: Gleb
              Hleb

              I don’t communicate with the uncultured components of compost winked
              Hami others and wait for stroking on the back of the neck from the "Cossack component" wassat
              1. Hleb
                Hleb 14 July 2013 13: 57
                +4
                yes, no problem. you experienced my lack of culture yourself invented. if you were really "experienced" in the army, you would treat many servicemen as comrades-in-arms, and did not invent rudeness only on the basis of my first comment
                experienced read yourself again
                I did not even think that a man can put this in a complaint))
                (for Esaul you are not a topic at all)
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 14 July 2013 13: 38
      +3
      A competent opponent in this case will incapacitate him first
      In addition, helicopters cannot be based on such unprepared sites for a long time without the necessary infrastructure for repair and maintenance.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 14 July 2013 13: 49
        0
        In addition, helicopters cannot be based on such unprepared sites for a long time without the necessary infrastructure for repair and maintenance.

        this is not discussed at all. in the first, the conversation turned to something else. in the second, there is the fact of the presence of aviation
        (sorry. thought me a question)
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 14 July 2013 14: 00
          +4
          Quote: Gleb
          secondly, there is the fact of the presence of aviation

          There is no sense in the presence of what does not work.
          1. experienced
            experienced 14 July 2013 14: 04
            +3
            Quote: Spade
            There is no sense in the presence of what does not work.

            Just people attached specifically to me ... Explain to him that the PV has its own aviation and they are structurally not part of the Russian Armed Forces just to no purpose. Chel is sure that if the Russian border post and the base also belongs to Russia, then the issue of cooperation can be resolved at the level of the beginning. frontier posts and a helicopter pilot ... During the 90s, in general, such a structural leapfrog was happening that my mother did not spoil.
            Well, what can you do and have not had to deal with such "oaks" lol
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 14 July 2013 14: 17
              +2
              Are you sure that border guards could, then, and now, help? Sheer negligence, as it was, remains.

              Here, for example, in this particular case, what was needed?
              Combat helicopters, capable of first knocking out air defense assets from attackers, and then constantly supporting them. That is, in sufficient quantity to hang over the outpost, taking turns.
              Transport or combat transport in order to deliver ammunition and take out the wounded.
              Transport, transport and combat and combat in order to simultaneously land no less than MMG-shnoy company with reinforcements.

              Moreover, all this should be ready immediately, departure without hours of coordination with the local.

              None of this was and is not. So why bother talking about this?
            2. Dober
              Dober 14 July 2013 15: 25
              -1
              Quote: seasoned
              Just people attached specifically to me ... Explain to him just to no purpose.
              Well, what can you do and have not had to deal with such "oaks"
              I don’t communicate with the uncultured components of compost
              On you with the esaul "purr"

              Not too arrogant?
              Your awareness of some issues is far from being confirmed by the presence of four cartoon stars on the drawn "shoulder straps".
              Think about it ... hi
              1. experienced
                experienced 14 July 2013 15: 29
                +3
                Quote: Dober
                Not too arrogant?

                To the best of
                Quote: Dober
                Your awareness of some issues is far from being confirmed by the presence of four cartoon stars on the drawn "shoulder straps".

                Do I pay attention to them? Can you give at least one example when I "trumped" this? What kind of groundless "assaults"? angry
                Quote: Dober
                Think about it ...

                And I’m your insane?
                1. Dober
                  Dober 14 July 2013 16: 11
                  0
                  Quote: seasoned
                  And I’m your insane?
                  Would consider as such - would not address.
                  Quote: seasoned
                  Can you give at least one example when I "trumped" this? What kind of groundless "assaults"?

                  I "one-time" expressed my opinion on the posts you posted above. The rest of the "discussion" in this vein will inevitably lead to shit, far from the topic. For this I propose to "catch the silence." stop hi
            3. smersh70
              smersh70 14 July 2013 23: 26
              +2
              well done !!!!!!!!!!! clearly and clearly !!!!! I don’t know whether you are a military man or not, but with you I would eat together !!!!!! hi
              1. smersh70
                smersh70 14 July 2013 23: 40
                +4
                Quote: smersh70
                Do I pay attention to them? Can you give at least one example when I "trumped" this? What kind of groundless "assaults"?


                experienced !! I wrote in relation to you !!!!!!!!! hi drinks
          2. Hleb
            Hleb 15 July 2013 02: 01
            0
            you should give specific examples of what exactly did not work after the squadron was included in the division. Specifically, where, when the aviation "did not work"
            1. KG_patriot_last
              KG_patriot_last 15 July 2013 12: 27
              +3
              1) The BMP is also knocked out, but this does not mean that it should not have been there, what an absurd argument ... And the helicopter does not have to stand directly on the outpost itself, it is enough for the helicopter base to be in the interior of the radius 100-200km from the outposts . Then there would be no need for an 12 hourly battle apart from the main forces. And there would be no problem of a mined and ambush road.

              2) Yes, and in general it was not necessary directly to the outpost where the battle landed with the risk of being hit, one could strike from the rear, land from a nearby height. In general, divert part of the enemy towards yourself and create a corridor.

              3) Not that the Allied military helicopters, civilian planes of any country in the world fly over any country in accordance with international agreements. It’s like a helicopter takes off and gets knocked down ... Who? Tajik air defense or what? If the base is in a foreign country, this does not mean that helicopters cannot be used. It is possible and necessary. 12 hours ... This is a sea of ​​time, during this time at least airborne with several regiments of paratroopers could fly out of Moscow and have time to completely block this gang. At the same time, it would be an act of intimidation. Well, what are we talking about? Helicopters will bring down ... Yes, in general, nuclear submarines are drowning, but this does not mean that they should not have been made and set sail on them ...
  20. Bugor
    Bugor 14 July 2013 12: 54
    +4
    I’m trying to imagine myself in the place of those who remained to cover the withdrawal .... I don’t know if I could or not .... It’s a pity for the boys, how many of these are left in the Second World War, and after ... And well, if you remember and remember, the family they won’t leave ... But to die in obscurity is terrible.
    Everlasting memory...
  21. Dober
    Dober 14 July 2013 13: 21
    +5
    For some reason, I don’t want to talk about the actions of politicians now and then, neither about the government, nor about the command, nor about much more. Everything has already been said without me ...

    Well, it was a day!
    Through the smoke
    French people dushmans moved like clouds
    And all to our redoubt.
    Lancers with motley badges,
    Dragoons with ponytails,
    All flashed before us,
    All have visited here.

    You do not see such battles! ..
    Banners fluttered like shadows,
    In the smoke, the fire shone,
    It sounded like a bulat, sarc bittered,
    The hand of the fighters is tired,
    And the cores were prevented from flying
    Mountain of bloody bodies.

    The enemy had learned a lot that day,
    What does Russian battle mean,
    Our hand-to-hand fighting! ..
    The earth was shaking - like our breasts,
    Mixed in a bunch of horses, people,
    And the volleys of a thousand guns
    Merged in a long howl ...

    It's getting dark. Everybody was ready
    Zautra fight to start a new one
    And stand to the end ...
    Here the drums crackled -
    And the busurans retreated.
    Then we began to count,
    Comrades count.

    Yes, there were people in our time,
    A powerful, dashing tribe:
    Bogatyri - not you.
    They got a bad share:
    Few returned from the field ... (C)


    Glory to the soldier’s feat! Eternal memory to the soldiers!
  22. honest jew
    honest jew 14 July 2013 14: 10
    +2
    Quote: serge-68-68
    I will add: the destruction of the outpost was facilitated by its poor location - next to the dominant heights, from which shelling was organized (in this sense, objectively speaking, minus the head of the outpost, who did not provide control over them with secrets). Today, the outpost is restored and placed on the mountain.



    Destruction of the outpost was facilitated by the negligence of the outpost commander, who complied with the order from above and handed over cartridges to the warehouse, and removed nearby posts that controlled the peaks adjacent to the outpost !!!!
    1. Alex
      Alex 15 July 2013 11: 59
      +2
      Quote: Honest Jew
      negligence of the outpost commander who executed the order from above

      ?!
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 15 July 2013 16: 31
        0
        This is not negligence, but the execution of an order.
        Although - his neighbor, disobeying orders, with his outpost left the battle in much better shape
  23. Yuri11076
    Yuri11076 14 July 2013 14: 27
    +2
    Eternal memory to the guys, they are real heroes !!!
  24. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 14 July 2013 14: 39
    +1
    It is clear that in the territory of another state,
    it’s clear that the locals couldn’t break through,
    but why in such a case for so much time
    help did not come from Russia by air ?!
    Very sorry for the young guys who died
    and suffered there because of all sorts of moments and ambitions ...
    1. Black
      Black 14 July 2013 18: 07
      +4
      Quote: Starover_Z
      It is clear that in the territory of another state,
      it’s clear that the locals couldn’t break through,
      but why in such a case for so much time
      help did not come from Russia by air ?!


      And this is understandable .... There were no fighters among the fighters, for example, "Ivan PAVLOVICH Grachev", "Ivan Borisovich Yeltsin."
      The Russian authorities were at this time busy with more pleasant things.
  25. igor_ua
    igor_ua 14 July 2013 15: 16
    +2
    Very sorry guys !! But why are those who survived silent? Why are those who came to the rescue and saw the outpost immediately after the battle silent? Why is there no interest in journalists ??! Where are the articles? Docum. films ?

    And yet, this is all an example of immense heroism and courage. Undoubtedly. But after all, and the immense spit of power to the survivors. And now the youth will read all this and what? What effect will the article have on them? Who will give their lives for those freaks that are above? For their criminal miscalculations? Those who have no other choice?

    Eh, Russia is full of obscure heroes.. They hold on. Despite everything. But only after all, the limit comes to everything .. And the required number of heroes may not be found to resist ..
    1. Dober
      Dober 14 July 2013 17: 51
      +1
      Quote: igor_ua
      But why are those who survived silent? Why are those who came to the rescue and saw the outpost immediately after the battle silent? Why is there no interest in journalists ??! Where are the articles? Docum. films ?

      Not much, but there is. Here is a recently shown film as part of A. Sladkov's program "Special Correspondent" -
      "Fire Outpost. Survivors."

      http://rutv.ru/brand/show/episode/444364
  26. Yurban
    Yurban 14 July 2013 15: 18
    +1
    Someone and how would not cling to certain statements, but the boys fought and died. Shekim memory.
  27. GEO
    GEO 14 July 2013 16: 56
    +2
    Can anyone explain why there was no help ??? Where were the turntables with the landing, if they could not shoot, for fear of getting into their own?
    I don’t believe that it was impossible to help the guys ... I don’t believe it!
  28. Odin_ne_voin
    Odin_ne_voin 14 July 2013 17: 01
    +1
    Thank you for the article, I watched ... and cried ... I immediately remembered the song of V. Vysotsky about book children who did not know wars ... God bless the soldiers guarding the borders of our country, strength of mind and fortitude, and a minimum of emergency situations.
  29. waisson
    waisson 14 July 2013 18: 00
    +2
    ETERNAL MEMORY OF GUYS LET THE EARTH THERE WILL BE FUR !!!
  30. Black
    Black 14 July 2013 18: 24
    +2
    At 15 o’clock, the airborne assault group of the Moscow border detachment under the command of Captain V. Basmanov destroyed the last machine gun crew of the Dushmans on the road to the outpost. Help went to the outpost. Only there was no one to help ... The outpost was destroyed to the ground. Night vision devices and machine guns and grenade launchers left by souls were strewn on the ground. Lieutenant Mayboroda was lying in the trench, bowing his head to the parapet. On his shoulder - killed Private Kulikov. In the trenches, on the slopes, along the territory - everywhere the bodies of the dead border guards. “Mutilated faces beyond recognition,” recalls Senior Lieutenant A. Fedotov, “many have their eyes gouged out, their arms and legs torn off, their stomach torn open, their heart cut out. The wrists of some inverted hands have deep marks from ropes, and skin has been stripped from head to toe. ” The Dushmans did not capture a single border guard - they mocked the bodies of the dead.
    In total, our children died - 25, and the corpses of bandits in various sections of the outpost defense were counted about eighty.

    There is now a war on terrorism around the world. The first battle of this war took place on July 13, 1993 at 12 outpost of the Moscow border detachment.
    The military leadership of the country in those days sent a letter to the President of Russia with a request to declare a nationwide mourning in the country for the dead border guards and take measures to perpetuate their memory.
    However, the country was in 1993.
  31. PValery53
    PValery53 14 July 2013 18: 47
    +2
    For some reason, "in the traditions" of Russia, the higher hierarchy of officials and the military is not properly punished for betrayal of subordinates and ordinary people both in civilian life and in hostilities. The history of the Chechen wars abounds in such examples. And what ? - They inflated the bogey only because of the offense of Colonel Budanov, due to the necessity of wartime. But not a single traitor from the higher realms was reared up. Again "we don't give up our own"?! ..- In response to this, an exact saying arose in the blogosphere - "for whom Budanov is not a hero, for that Russia is not a Motherland."
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 15 July 2013 16: 34
      0
      Well then, then they took off the whole top of the border guards.
  32. flanker7
    flanker7 14 July 2013 18: 55
    +2
    Yes, it’s just to raze all this banidite offspring, all along with their villages. You can’t leave a stone on a stone. Burn everything so that there is no trace, and not look at random victims. I got all this, we bury our guys, and we give the bandits another amnesty ....
  33. Pimply
    Pimply 14 July 2013 19: 12
    +8
    The feat of some is, as a rule, sloppiness and irresponsibility of others. That’s why I don’t like exploits so much - always behind them is always a mistake that has to be corrected with blood
  34. kundyshev
    kundyshev 14 July 2013 21: 11
    +4
    In 1941, the enemy's teeth began to crumble at the BORDER GUARDS, and all the years after the Great Patriotic War, the Border Guards were a granite wall on the way "to us" of various bastards (the same Damansky, Zhalanoshkol, etc.). The line of defense at the FRANCES is always at the forefront !!! It doesn't matter if it's War or Peacetime.
    In fact, in Soviet times, the selection of guys in the Border Guards was SPECIAL!
    Eternal memory to those who died at the fighting post!
    WHILE WE REMEMBER, WE LIVE !!!!

    Chief Ship foreman MCH PV KGB of the USSR (stock) Kundyshev V.N.
  35. grafrozow
    grafrozow 14 July 2013 21: 42
    +2
    I agree, Evgeny. The guys did not surrender, there were no prisoners, they died in battle as a HERO. But the battle was going on for 11 hours and there was no help, there was no outpost on the moon. The MIG-25 had a speed of 3300 km / h, there was no one to give the order. And the "fathers commanders" are ours, with some exceptions, like our leadership. In 1979, GSVG, 51 orb 1rlr "pyrol", whoever was there, will confirm, a radar post in 6 km. from the border with the Federal Republic of Germany, 56 soldiers and 1 commanders. July 17, 10 pm, lights out, we stand in underpants in the washbasin, 2a shots are fired and immediately bursts from the machine gun. The ruzhpark was opened and there were only 4 or 6 stores of cartridges, the rest are in the safe and the political officer has the keys , he replaced the company commander, and the political officer in the DOS. They grabbed a handful of cartridges, machine guns and to the sentry, he was lying and shouting that they were shooting from the bushes, and the light was shining on the territory and not behind a thorn, they lay down a little in the barracks. Then the political officer came running and The first thing he did was to take the cartridges from us "shoot each other" he took a machine gun with clips for himself, bayonets to us and led us to comb the landing for a thorn, no one was found. Then the police came and took out a bullet from the sentry's fungus. , because he continues to serve, and not alone. Reinsurers, real professionals are few, because of this there are many troubles. I feel sorry for the children and their mothers especially. Let the earth rest in peace.
  36. George
    George 14 July 2013 22: 20
    +3
    Glory to our border guards!
    Eternal memory to the fallen!
  37. aud13
    aud13 14 July 2013 22: 51
    +2
    Eternal memory of those who died at the border guards.
    At the same time, it is bitter that many border guards could have been saved if they had decided in time to provide real assistance. Also, any conclusion was drawn based on the results of this incident about the interaction of arimia and border guards.
    Are our border guards equipped with equipment that can prevent a sudden attack, for example, drones?
  38. grafrozow
    grafrozow 14 July 2013 23: 32
    +1
    Are our border guards equipped with equipment that can prevent a sudden attack, for example drones? [/ Quote]
    Yes, Victor, and also satellite communications, food processors, and the Arctic winter uniform. The Defense Ministry has already reported.
  39. rodevaan
    rodevaan 15 July 2013 03: 26
    +3
    Come on, stop whining and moaning here! They got it right here like old grandmas on a bench! You won’t pay for all.
    You know perfectly well what the 90s were for our army and population.

    They acted like men, like real Russian warriors. I do not mean nationality (the composition of the border guards was very diverse), I mean the mentality and deed.
    They also fought in Afghanistan, and in World War II, and in Russian-Japanese, as well as in World War 12, and the Northern, and generally always in all wars.
    And as long as we have this mentality, as long as we have such upbringing - the spirit of camaraderie, fighting brotherhood, responsibility for the Motherland, family, friends - our land will be safe and in defense.
    And if we follow the path of westernized perverted pseudo-"values", we will turn into a gray swamp, into a wordless one, as in the West.
    1. Bekzat
      Bekzat 16 July 2013 16: 58
      +1
      + Dear Max !!!
  40. And raid
    And raid 15 July 2013 14: 51
    +2
    Guys are very sorry, consider hell to be, and eternal memory to the dead! The question always begs - And where is the great weapon that our country is proud of and for which cubic meters of money are allocated? Is it economically impractical to use serious weapons in hazardous areas? Although, in principle, everything is true, for the government people get soldiers for free, and if that women give birth to new ones!
  41. Marek Rozny
    Marek Rozny 16 July 2013 12: 27
    +3
    The border of Tajikistan was also guarded by Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, and Uzbeks. And they participated in numerous battles against the "Basmachs". Kazakhstan lost more than 50 soldiers and officers on the Tajik-Afghan border. A total of 10 thousand Kazakh servicemen served on this border.
    One day in a seed of the 90s, my father returned home in the morning (he served in the Ministry of Internal Affairs then) and asked me to give him the flag of Kazakhstan, which I once bought with my first money and hung it on the wall in my room. Father said that on the eve a group of our soldiers died in the Republic of Tatarstan, and the MVD Ministry of Internal Affairs is looking for Kazakh flags to cover them with coffins (then the flags were in short supply; in Kazakhstan then there wasn’t even a single enterprise that could produce a state flag; they bought from the Germans and Turks). Gave, of course, without talking.
    By the way, the lieutenant from the 12th outpost M. Mayboroda is a native of Kazakhstan. Moreover, he also had Kazakh citizenship at the time of his service in the Russian army (in those years it was normal). Buried in Almaty. The grave is looked after by veterans ("Afghans" and "Tajiks").
  42. Bekzat
    Bekzat 16 July 2013 12: 42
    +3
    I greet everyone, this proves once again that the training of border guards should be at a high level, both for officers and ordinary employees. After all, it always has been, the frontiers keep the first blow !!! Honor and Glory to the Heroes !!!
  43. Sadroger
    Sadroger 17 July 2013 15: 30
    0
    Glory to the heroes who did not drop the honor of a real soldier!
    But, probably, one cannot forget another thing. This topic was discussed in sufficient detail (24 pages) on the Pogranets website (the theme of the frontier post named after 25 heroes of military unit 2033). There Nikolai Zakharchev mentioned that:
    - on the 12th outpost the day before the night raid, the outpost officer (deputy commandant) visited the outpost and made sure that all ammunition was removed from position;
    - Residents left the village 2-4 hours before the attack. So, at least 4 hours later they were informed about this? And they left without warning the border guards;
    - at the most critical moment, there was no connection with the outpost. The Mujahideen’s wired aerial (on poles) line was cut. At the radio station, the very first minutes the batteries were “drained”: the charger that had failed to work had been taken away for several days to be repaired, leaving nothing in return. With radio communications, the story came out very confusing. The frequencies at which negotiations were conducted on the air remained unchanged almost from the Afghan war. Back in April 1993, in one of the Dushman caches, among other things, a radio station was discovered, by the wave of which it was possible to determine - they know the frequency and, therefore, listen to the radio.
    Captain D. Razumovsky, the beginning, wrote even more harshly in his open letter to Komsomolskaya Pravda. DShMG Moscow PO:
    - with the ligature of part of the inhabitants of the village with the Islamists was proved back in June 1993, but they were in no hurry to evict the inhabitants;
    - according to the recollections of the participants of the battle at the 12th outpost: of the 15 Tajiks, only two fired, the rest hid behind the Russian guys;
    - the sentry at the outpost Bobohodzhaev, having discovered the "spirits", escaped without warning the outpost. Through his post, dushmans entered the outpost and were not noticed by anyone. And he came out after 2 days with a machine gun and unexpended ammunition. Who signed the decree awarding him with the medal “For Courage”? And they handed it over, although everyone knows the truth. How to explain this?
    1. volkodav
      volkodav 18 July 2013 19: 31
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      And they handed it over, although everyone knows the truth. How to explain this?

      this is explained by the tolerance of our leadership. how to explain the rewarding of Kadyrov and the assignment of a general rank to him? Pid ... they love chocks because they have them am
  44. ivanpost
    ivanpost 19 July 2013 10: 17
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    I am very glad that they received awards!
  45. ivanpost
    ivanpost 19 July 2013 10: 17
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    I am very glad that they received awards!
  46. ivanpost
    ivanpost 19 July 2013 10: 18
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    I am very glad that they received awards!
  47. Unikalla
    Unikalla 21 July 2013 00: 36
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    Hello everyone! Very interesting site!

    It has long been looking for some interesting topics :)

    Thanx 2 KO!