New from Zenit

An interesting such thing called the forearm B-30 and the bracket above the gas tube B-31.
A sort of domestic Quad Rails.

Actually the fore hand ...

It has three strips for mounting attachments and six holes for connecting with the bracket B-31 ...

The cut-out on the left side was made for the standard untabka…

To enhance the strength of the forearm, weakened by the window for the sling, on the opposite side of the bar does not have
transverse cutouts for fixing attachments from longitudinal movement ...

The back of the forearm has the configuration necessary for docking with the receiver ...

The bracket above the gas tube B-31 has six threaded protrusions for connection with the forearm B -30 ...

and the top bar with a cutout for the front gas pipe coupler ...

Install the forearm.
As usual, we use a hammer for a more tight fit of the forearm to the receiver, the benefit of the plastic material of the forearm contributes to the disappearance of possible gaps.
A tip of a forend we put on a corresponding ledge ...

Remove the cover from the gas tube and install the tube on the machine ...

Install the bracket B-31 and fasten the whole economy with screws ...

By the way, the Quadrille from UTG was at hand.
Plugs from which covered extra "road ways".
Over time, I will buy a set of colored stubs ...

No, and all the stuff stuck on.
Like a lantern, another lantern combining an IR illuminator and an IR LCC, and a constant knob - a bipod ...

And on the left I attached an attachment ...

With the handle removed and the plugs installed, the handguard is very comfortable in the hand ...

- without caps ...

The extended handguard allows you to bring installed lights to the muzzle of the barrel, reducing the shaded areas.
Extends the range of movement of the front arms, combining their presence with the installation of a number of different bipods.
And simply protects the hands of the shooter from burns.

For machines that do not have a side bracket, it is proposed to install an extended bracket above the gas tube on the B-30 shank ...

This product is called B-32 ...

The high position of the upper plank is caused by the desire to preserve the possibility of using a mechanical sight, up to permutations of the linkage sight.
On the left side of the lining there is a corresponding cutout for accessing the latch clamp ...

But your machine with such a forearm can be safely used as an accessory, for whatever be a fantastic movie ...

For those who do not wish to part with a grenade launcher, the company has manufactured a shortened version of the Sparky B-30 / B31.
This handguard B-10M ...

and bracket above the gas tube B-19 ...

Together, it looks like this ...

Comments

[Lopatov]

Why not provide troops of this kind with modernization kits for small arms stored in warehouses?
At the current level of development of CNC machines, the high price of milled parts is due more to the appetites of the manufacturer than to the cost.

[Strashila]

By and large, all this can be simply cast, with machining of the landing surfaces. Judging by the photo, it is so.

[Lopatov]

There are many options, from casting to powder technology.

[Pimply]

So in general they talk about it. Rogozin showed upgrade kits even on TV. True, they were an Israeli company CAA Tactical

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Pimply

Rogozin showed upgrade kits even on TV. True, they were an Israeli company CAA Tactical

If not difficult, a photo in the studio where Rogozin advertises CAA Tactical. From what I have seen, these are all the same Zenith products (including a body kit for converting AK into bullpup).

[dustycat]

Quote: Strashila

By and large, all this can be simply cast, with machining of the landing surfaces. Judging by the photo, it is so.

This is injection molding on presses with a minimum of machining.

[Sirocco]

I could be wrong, but the option with the ebb, much worse than machining from the disc, on a milling machine. And secondly, the price tag is not humane, at our traders. B-32 is for example 6 tyrov. But in general, it is high time to supply weapons in this configuration.

[Civil]

and how much does this upgrade increase the mass of AK? product weight please

[PSih2097]

Quote: Civil

and how much does this upgrade increase the mass of AK? product weight please

B30 and B31 weigh 270 ± 10 g. + 116 ± 5 gr. accordingly, the butt is 540 ± 10 g, the front handle is 200 grams, an IR flashlight with a LOC 210 gr. well, etc.

[PSih2097]

Next
One-piece milled rail over the receiver B-13 "Classic" 176 gr., Sight Lucid HD7 with a 2x magnifying attachment 369 gr.

[Lopatov]

And how much does it increase efficiency?

[PSih2097]

Suppose you were dragged to a shooting range, from which it would be more convenient for you to shoot from a simple Kalash or from a Kalash where optics and a laser link are attached? in which case will your accuracy increase?

[Lopatov]

Suppose, before entering Chechnya, I pulled mine on the shooting range three times a week. Did they need optic collimators and other pieces? Of course not!!! They will ruin everything, break it, they will not be able to use, they will not be able to wear due to the huge weight of the machine. In general, it is necessary to make them full-time weapons of time-tested stones and clubs.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Spade

Suppose, before entering Chechnya, I pulled mine on the shooting range three times a week. Did they need optic collimators and other pieces? Of course not!!! They will ruin everything, break it, they will not be able to use, they will not be able to wear due to the huge weight of the machine. In general, it is necessary to make them full-time weapons of time-tested stones and clubs.

And who told you that it will be full-time, you want to buy and cling, you want not to buy ...

[Lopatov]

That's the whole ficus picus, that it should be regular.

[Sirocco]

Quote: PSih2097

And who told you that it will be full-time, you want to buy and cling, you want not to buy ...

Which is successfully done by many of the specialists, including KARDEN.

[lepa-72]

I agree with you - all this is nonsense. You can’t take it to the forest. You fight for grams, and then show-offs per callogram.

[allosaurus]

in-in, and also about its functional value

[Strashila]

Everything is so fashionable ... current there was one question ... how quickly this miracle will be cleaned of dirt in the field ... and what will become the fasteners in this design from constant swelling-twisting.

[dustycat]

Quote: Strashila

Everything is so fashionable ... current there was one question ... how quickly this miracle will be cleaned of dirt in the field ... and what will become the fasteners in this design from constant swelling-twisting.

Screws say GOST - in any hardware store sold.
The safety of the internal thread is guaranteed by the principle - "if it works, disassemble" and the manufacture of internal threads from a metal harder than screws.
It is wise to clean metal parts from the dirt in the field - as they do with AK - plastic will quietly survive to the base and the dishwasher. With which all army canteens and food outlets are now equipped.
In addition, dirt adheres to plastic more difficult and falls away easier.
And the self-cleaning plastics themselves are already quite mass produced.

But still, designers should think about external clamps and threadless couplers. Moreover, there are ideas for such devices on the AK itself.

By the way, about the long rail above the receiver - why not supplement it with a duplicating mechanism for the shutter handle on the other side?
You still have to buy a saiga 410 caliber and think of it yourself.

[Owl]

As the AKMS automatic machine gun (1976 of release), the B 32 product is very interesting.

[PSih2097]

Bracket over gas pipe and receiver B-32 "Classic"
http://www.zenitco.ru/catalog/1717/1819/1810/

[avt]

Wow! In Kalash, we’ve been unfurled , in "Star Wars" you can shoot in a new series.

[dustycat]

Look at the "fifth element" - an ultramodern multifunctional complex - AKSU in plastic camouflage.
Also, by the way, you can buy - only without a network gun, an ice cube, rockets and homing bullets.

[vomag]

what are you ?? and they didn’t serve the army ?? how to disassemble and clean this device in the field it will be awesome as it’s not easy (just press the bolts to kill me), this kind of heroism is needed in a shooting gallery or better in the action movie once again there’s someone something is proved by basting pontoons with a body kit from a karden (further more a glamorous body kit from a Versace from liberals Dolce and gobana pink ak .......) nooo better send this **** to the guys who drive the militants in the mountains they will quickly write where to put it then ka in the harsh army language!

[PSih2097]

Quote: vomag

Nooooo better send it **** to the guys who drive the militants in the mountains, they will quickly write down where to put it in the harsh army language!

Well, go to Karden’s LJ page and read what they write on "harsh army language"
Page address: http://karden.livejournal.com/

[vomag]

I read nothing new question answer! Yes, he is an officer there somewhere is located there? I ask what for ordinary soldiers, it’s all right? Tactical flashlights bipods a terribly high collimator stub handle bipod forend anatab bolts with nuts and screws ... (tired of listing) no one in their right mind would put such ***** on the machine and conscripts that they don’t lose, they will drink it !!!!

[Lopatov]

You're right. Only stones and clubs. In case of breakage, they can be replaced in the nearest grove.

[Sleptsoff]

This is not for conscripts, but for specialists is done, which does not have to wallow in the mud for weeks.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote from Sleptsoff

This is not for conscripts, but for specialists is done, which does not have to wallow in the mud for weeks.

For conscripts. Do not exaggerate the difficulty of working with the collimator. But in general the kit is quite decent. In mass production, it is quite good and not expensive to equip the CB.

[dustycat]

And why on the M16 so many things hung?
For professionals, it’s quite normal.
In our country, it seems, in the light of world fashion, professional troops should also appear.
For cannon fodder with annual preparation and trilinear or CBT excess.
The advantage of AKM as it is in the army is its ease of use with unskilled care.
But even he needs places to hang devices and lights.
A collimator for dummies is easier to learn than a slot-fly - at least a teapot is easier to learn with it to hit the target.
For a year of service, a motorized rifle maximum can be taught to hit the target. To teach him how to apply to the battlefield and move safely on it - and two years is not enough without a special electroshock laser training kit. Which since the beginning of the 1980s has not been adopted by the USSR.

That's exactly what you need to think of with screws. AK developers did not just leave them in the mechanism of the machine. Only four screws in the butt are never twisted.

[Pimply]

And why should these parts be cleaned in the field. Explain for a start.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Pimply

And why should these parts be cleaned in the field. Explain for a start.

I don’t understand either ... for some reason everyone thinks that our army needs Kalash in the form in which they come from the factory, the example of the same Americans, Europeans, Israelis doesn’t want to take into account why it is considered to be too much, for me it’s so - you can afford to buy - buy and cling, because for the army such kits are too expensive ... I already gave an example of modernization of Kalash worth 89 rubles, and the most expensive optics there are 000 rubles.
Moreover, the weight increases by only 300 grams from the standard.

[PSih2097]

Quote: vomag

I ask why the simple soldiers is it that

Do you think the young guys who are joining the army are a stupid, brainless cattle, and they can only be trusted with a mosin in their hands, only because there’s practically nothing to break there?

Quote: vomag

terribly high collimator

Have you ever seen domestic callimators? that's where tall ...

[vomag]

I don’t write anything about the current! I didn’t write anything! (I respect the young and healthy people who serve those who serve) I would like to personally present this device and march to you personally for 20 km on a wooded or wooded marshy to choose in and would have a look what you need and what to throw already at 5 km !!!

[duke]

but in my opinion useful accessories have the right to life !!!

[roma-belij]

Cool device, I wonder how much it all costs and where to get it.

[PSih2097]

Quote: roma-belij

Cool device, I wonder how much it all costs and where to get it.

go to the site zenitco.ru it’s a body kit, a Lucid HD7 sight with a 2x magnifying nozzle, a $ 249 sight, a $ 49 nozzle plus shipping ...

[Andron24]

This is not a forearm ... This is the Lego constructor

[Yuri11076]

futuristic appearance has the usual Kalashnikov assault rifle ...

[Azov]

[/ Quote]
I don’t understand either ... for some reason everyone thinks that our army needs Kalash in the form in which they come from the factory, the example of the same Americans, Europeans, Israelis doesn’t want to take into account why it is considered to be too much, for me so - you can afford to buy - buy and cling
[/ Quote]
Because the United States and Israel fight all the way somewhere, that’s all sorts of stray people cling to for ease of use. And for permanent-based units, with firing once a month, these bells and whistles are unnecessary

[georg737577]

As I can imagine, how many muds are able to heat and hold these stray in a real combat situation ... For a shooting gallery, or a cool type of weapon - that’s it. And if you urgently need to remove the lid - a matter of life?

[PSih2097]

And the 74M cover can be removed without problems ...

[bbss]

Gryazyuk will be on it ... Neither plastic nor a dishwasher will help. Maybe the guys from the operational units will like it.

[PSih2097]

Have you personally tried to use it? or judge by appearance?

[a.hamster55]

Maybe maybe for specialists or pros and for short-term tasks. Do you have to clean the gas pipe with a piston with a complete disassembly of this device?

[individual]

And what about the weight of the resulting product?

[PSih2097]

this product (which is on top) weighs 300 grams heavier than the original AK-74M (without an bracket with optics):

[crambol]

Quote: bbss

Gryazyuk will be on it ... Neither plastic nor a dishwasher will help.

All together - CCGT - dust-dirt-trap.

[Demid163]

Well, I’d set the scope, the rest is gone.

[lucidlook]

Fighter of the CSN FSB "Alpha" at the IPSC competition in Solnechnogorsk, 2011.

[Zomanus]

Good weight. Of course, you must first grow to understand why this is and for what. And then the questions of complexity, weight, and cleaning go away by themselves ... That is, this is not for conscripts.

[mejik]

Oh, I don’t know, Matroskin, why are you quarreling over her (s)
Each adult man determines for himself the value of this device. the conscript is unable to do this for the simple reason that the motherland thinks for him in the person of unknown uncles. it will be necessary and the tank will stop in Kalash, and he will spit, to an unknown hero, on any stray. there would be a barrel and there would be a bullet.

[Igor 34rus]

Unfortunately, not everywhere bosses allow tuning, even if you are ready for such expenses.

[Larus]

If the army will have a normal training system for a soldier for combat and other amenities, then the conscript will figure out what comes in handy for him, and what is unnecessary for his work and whether it will be necessary at all. it’s just their studies that will determine their reasonableness. In my time, we weren’t taught anything at all and were shot at 12 rounds every six months and asked what kind of complaint we had.
In general, such things should be supplied to the troops and there it will be decided specifically by soldiers whether they need it or not.

[a.hamster55]

Aha and a small case with a multi-tool and a hammer on belt A after use right away to the RAV workshop.

[operator35]

body kit is certainly good, only at first to teach how to shoot employees and military personnel.
There are no training programs and methods, so the kit does not replace the ability to shoot and, most importantly, to hit ....

[From]

2-3 months ago in one of the Kommersant publications ("Ogonyok" or "Vlast") there was an article about the participation of special forces from Chad in the operation to destroy Abu Zeid in North Africa. The article says that the Chad special forces prefer the AK-47 with an aluminum forend (for attaching sights and other things) made by a French company (it seems). I am attaching one of the photos.

[aver]

And you "Kalash" as you do not drill ....