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Syria, G8 and Russia's special position

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The consistency of the Russian policy in the Syrian issue has allowed to keep the situation in the framework of international law


New position of Egypt (where events are changing rapidly) and Jordan on Syria, the US statement that they have evidence of the use of Damascus chemical weapons, and the prospect of confronting the guards of the Islamic Revolution with the American special forces seemed to have alienated the idea of ​​convening a peace conference, to which they had already placed a timid hope, reinforced by an active attack on the positions of the Syrian army militants. Experts talked about the Iraqi scenario, which became a consequence of “Colin Powell's test tubes”, and the Syrian issue turned out to be the central topic of discussion at the G8 summit, the results of which, contrary to forecasts, showed quite real parameters of cooperation on the Syrian crisis.

The United States almost crossed the border, the consequences of the crossing of which would have been impossible to prevent when a dangerous decision was made to supply weapons to the Syrian opposition (albeit with certain reservations). At the same time, the White House said that the American intelligence report that Syrian government troops use chemical weapons was the last straw (despite the fact that one of the members of the independent commission under the auspices of the UN, Carl del Ponte, reported that the opposition used chemical weapons).

Forcing situation

The question of evidence of the use of chemical weapons in Syria by government forces was extremely important for Western countries, since this fact could justify the need to sell weapons to the rebels. Since the EU did not extend the embargo on the sale of weapons to Syria at the end of May, the countries of the union have such a right, but they are not in a hurry to use it. British Foreign Secretary William Hague said that you first need to try to resolve the conflict by political means.

The US’s decision to supply weapons to the Syrian opposition caused a variety of assessments, and senators John McCain and Lindsay Graham added fuel to the fire, who in a joint statement noted that the United States should not limit itself to increasing the volume of military assistance to the opposition, but must undertake a military operation and strike cruise missiles on the troops of Assad.

It is clear that the US president is under heavy pressure from the so-called hawks. However, it is also extremely important for Americans to have loyal military force among the Syrian opposition, which they could quickly provide with arms, train and begin to control. After two years, the Syrian free army still remains extremely fragmented, Islamists and radicals are gaining strength, there is a struggle for leadership, it is experiencing an internal crisis, not subject to a single center (after injuring its former commander Riad Al-Assad) and is weak in terms of military training. There are independent Salafi detachments (the largest of them is Jabhat al-Nusra), and on the side of the militants representatives of other countries, including Russia (about 200 people) take part in the battle, which was officially announced by FSB director Alexander Bortnikov.

At the same time, a process began on the Syrian-Jordanian border, which is associated with the preparation of a no-fly zone. Patriot anti-aircraft missile systems, F-16 combat aircraft and five thousand soldiers arrived in Jordan, according to the official version, as part of the annual Life of the Lion exercises. During these maneuvers, not only purely military operations, but also the actions of the police and humanitarian organizations, including assisting refugees from Syria and neutralizing possible unrest in their camps, were practiced. At the same time, after the completion of the exercise, the weapon must remain in Jordan. However, for the introduction of a no-fly zone, a UN Security Council sanction is required, which cannot be obtained without the consent of the Russian Federation and China. Moreover, after the sharp statement by UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon about the unacceptability of unilateral taking such steps without a proper UN mandate, it is clear that it will be practically impossible to implement.

Moreover, the dynamics of events in the Middle East are increasingly demonstrating the limits of the possibilities of American policy: after the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq, this country is increasingly moving away from the patronage of the United States (taking, in particular, a firm position on Syria), and recently the United States announced the beginning negotiations with the Taliban on the future of Afghanistan (and this is almost 12 years after they were removed from power with the direct participation of the Americans).

Syria, G8 and Russia's special position

Therefore, the situation is still intensifying in order to involve neighboring countries in the Syrian conflict, implying that Turkey can also get involved in it, although for her the Syrian issue is still in the background, as the authorities, stubbornly not wanting to meet the rally participants, may resolve internal serious contradictions. But the Israelis have bombed Syria three times over the past year, it has become for them a field of confrontation with Iran. Israel is not ready to coexist with a nuclear Iran, whose leadership has repeatedly called for the destruction of the Jewish state, and the Israeli Prime Minister, in turn, from the podium of the UN General Assembly, stated that if there is no progress in curbing Tehran’s nuclear program, Israel reserves the right to act alone. Therefore, the force scenario with respect to Iran continues to be preserved, and the calculation is apparently being made that the Sunnis (in the face of having strengthened their influence in the region of Saudi Arabia and other monarchies of the Persian Gulf) will support it.

What is the reason for such a frank decision of the United States, adopted with respect to the Syrian opposition on the eve of the summit? First of all, they were pushed by the events in Syria itself, when government forces after the winter defeat began to press the rebels and turn the situation around, regaining control over many parts of the country, and especially their strategic success was to take the stronghold of the armed opposition of the city of Quseir on the border with Lebanon. After this, the Assad troops launched an active offensive and attacked Aleppo, with the result that confidence appeared that they could win the war. The rebels declared an urgent need for anti-tank and anti-aircraft equipment to counter the government offensive. Al-Qusayr was of paramount military importance for the militants (as a point of receipt of military aid from Lebanon and a springboard for launching a large-scale offensive against Damascus). That is why the Syrian opposition as a condition of their presence at the international conference on Syria demanded an immediate stop of the storming of this city.

Egyptian President Mohammed Mursi (ousted from power) after the US decision to supply weapons to the Syrian opposition hurried to make a statement about the severance of diplomatic relations with Syria. Moreover, the former president requested the leaders of the Lebanese Hezbollah to withdraw their troops from Syria, and also called on the world community to establish a no-fly zone over it. Official Damascus described this statement as joining the orchestra of conspirators and instigators led by the United States and Israel.

Moscow view

With their harsh statements, the United States effectively nullified the seemingly established dialogue on Syria and put Russia in a difficult situation on the eve of the G8 summit. The main intrigue of the negotiations at this forum was whether the communiqué would be adopted with or without Russia (according to the formula “7 + 1”, as Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper put it).


The negotiations were not easy, as the West initially sought to endorse a new “road map” in Northern Ireland and finally convince Russia not to persist in the Syrian issue, putting an end to diplomatic solutions to the conflict. French President Francois Hollande again criticized Moscow for the supply of weapons to Damascus, and British Prime Minister David Cameron presented a draft statement on Syria, including the question of transferring power from Assad to the transitional government, as well as the G8’s commitment to develop a detailed plan for resolving the political situation after Assad. Seven forum participants were ready to subscribe to this document, but the question of the departure of the Syrian president was unacceptable for Russia. The head of Russia, as noted by various media, in matters of the Syrian conflict and the future of Bashar al-Assad was one against the "seven".

The final document, however, was accepted jointly, but most importantly, in the wording that suited Russian diplomacy: without demanding Bashar al-Assad’s departure, but condemning the use of chemical weapons by any party to the conflict, and not only by government forces. The G8 also agreed on the need to hold a conference in Geneva and noted the importance of a political solution to the problem with the participation of all parties to the conflict. Separately, the importance of excluding al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups from the political process was highlighted. At the same time, the Russian side, in turn, agreed with the wording about the special responsibility of the Syrian government for the observance of human rights and international humanitarian conventions. All this demonstrated: the talk of extreme disagreements in the G8 was somewhat exaggerated and confirmed the fact that the reserves of a diplomatic settlement have not yet been exhausted. And following the summit, Barack Obama made it clear that the United States is not going to organize a military invasion of Syria.

Russia, as always, was supported by Germany, perfectly aware that it is now necessary to solve its own economic problems. This deepened the split within the European Union, whose leaders, due to a different understanding of the tasks, act separately, often entering into competition, which naturally complicates the conflict resolution process and creates favorable conditions for the activities of extremists of all stripes. German Chancellor Angela Merkel urged not to allow isolation of Russia, since without Moscow the conflict in Syria could not be resolved, and also clearly stated that Germany would not supply arms to the opposition.

It is difficult to say with certainty whether Geneva-2 will take place, but one very important outcome of the summit on the Syrian crisis is that now the United States is unlikely to start supplying opposition weapons in the near future. This means that the Syrian government forces will have time to continue the offensive operation on the militant positions and the chance to complete this operation successfully. Moreover, the opposition will have no reason to put forward preliminary conditions to sit at the negotiating table, if the opposition itself by this time still has something to represent.

The situation in Syria is often compared with the situation in Iraq or Libya. However, a direct analogy to the Algerian events of the 90s suggests itself. At that time, too, it seemed that Algeria would not be able to emerge from the growing spiral of violence, and the Algerian army was unable to suppress the armed Islamist groups operating throughout the whole country, which was inundated with weapons. Having chosen the President of the country in 1999, Algeria, despite the darkest predictions, went on its own way, moving to the path of political reconciliation of the parties to the conflict with the mutual desire to create conditions for joint activities and finding common goals for further development in the framework of the model of the national-Islamic state. The entire subsequent political process only reinforced this tendency: a coalition of pro-government parties (which included, in particular, the moderate Islamic party, the Society for Peace movement, which secured the majority of seats in the legislature) acted along with two other political forces: the Islamic Alliance and berber parties and independent deputies.

In Algeria, this balance of political forces was preceded by a long period of civil war, which lasted almost ten years, and an equally long period of formation of a new political system, which is aimed at creating a state mechanism capable of resisting and actively resisting possible attempts to destabilize it. Such a model was justified during the period of the “Arab Spring”, when the performances that began in Algeria quickly faded away. The significant difference, however, is that the Western countries supported the political transformation in Algeria by actively supporting President Abdel Aziz Bouteflika in his endeavors, as well as oil revenues that helped this state stabilize the economic situation and restore the country's image in the international arena. In contrast to Algeria, Syria actually survived for many months, under the siege of external threats from the world community, which, of course, made the process of stabilization much harder. And the political transformations that began to resolve the conflict with the political opposition by fulfilling its demands (referendum on the new constitution, the introduction of a multiparty system, elections), were almost immediately blocked by external forces that declared the Syrian president illegitimate. Subsequently, the armed struggle acquired an uncontrollable character, and in Syria, the interests of regional and extra-regional players were tied up in a tight knot, which brought the process of political settlement to a deaf impasse.

Moscow continues to advocate a dialogue between the conflicting parties with the participation of all interested countries, including Iran, Turkey and Saudi Arabia. Such a position of Russia implies the development of a tool for making a political decision in a multipolar world, but not the approval of the right of a specific group of states to solve all internal and regional problems by military means. And it is precisely this sequence with which our policy was pursued in the Syrian issue that allowed us to keep the situation within the framework of international law. It is clear that the further process of Islamization or democratization of the Middle East depends on how this conflict is resolved. Non-interference in Syrian affairs will open up prospects for further reorganization of the country. The final communiqué of the summit on Syria, adopted jointly with Russia and designed to keep regional players from intervening in the Syrian crisis, is aimed precisely at this. In this sense, Russia at the G8 summit was the winner, and the winner, as you know, is always the same.
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  1. SPACE
    SPACE 14 July 2013 07: 47
    37
    G8 Summit, "The Wolf and the Seven Kids".
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 14 July 2013 08: 01
      24
      It is not enough to win a victory; it still needs to be kept; Putin, I think, will not let her out of her hands.
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 14 July 2013 13: 55
        10
        All this fuss around
        Syria, G8 and Russia's special position
        , What reminds me most of all is the game of cheaters in the person of the EU and the USA, who, by their meager stupidity, consider that they have a LOKH (represented by Russia) at the table. But they forgot that this sucker himself is not so bad. laughing... Putin understands very well that these "smart guys" have five aces up their sleeve. But they don't know what moves the GDP has in mind. I would suggest that they first try to count our proverb. Fuck them on the snout, two in the mind, how many will be in the head. laughing You can’t fight with Russia and you can’t threaten it, it’s best with us be friends.
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 14 July 2013 20: 27
          -6
          "the game of cheaters in the face of the EU and the United States, which, in their feeble mind, believe that LOCH (represented by Russia) is sitting at the table with them." - no, not a LOKH, but TORGASH! With incompetent amia, with government officials with property abroad. With serious internal contradictions in the country. With a rickety economy and thoroughly corrupt politics.
          In the USA and in Europe, there are no fools in power (they made their way there, and did not buy positions) and are well aware of what the modern RF is.
          And they clearly know how long a trader in the Russian Federation will live ...
          "For the first time Russia has published data on the state of oil and gas reserves. The corresponding figures were reported by the head of the Ministry of Natural Resources Sergei Donskoy. As it turned out, experts underestimated our reserves. According to the agency's estimates, there will be enough minerals for at least another 30 years."
          Sorry if I destroyed someone's rainbow fantasies about the Russian Federation, but that's how it is!
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 14 July 2013 21: 15
            +3
            Quote: S_mirnov
            In the USA and in Europe, there are no fools in power (they made their way there, and did not buy positions)

            Naive child, do you sincerely believe that in other countries they come to power somehow differently?
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 14 July 2013 21: 32
              -2
              "Naive child, do you sincerely believe that in other countries people come to power in some other way?" - uncle, you won't believe laughing , nowhere else in Europe and America, so do the mandates of deputies like in the Russian Federation. Yes, most people do not know what kind of faces they are sitting in the State Duma!
    2. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 14 July 2013 08: 32
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      Quote: SPACE
      G8 Summit, "The Wolf and the Seven Kids".

      rather a wolf, macaque and six hyenas.
      1. SPACE
        SPACE 14 July 2013 08: 36
        11
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        rather a wolf, macaque and six hyenas.

        well then Wolf, macaque and six sixes. laughing
        1. tronin.maxim
          tronin.maxim 14 July 2013 09: 22
          +6
          Quote: SPACE
          well then Wolf, macaque and six sixes

          How accurate you are!
        2. Suhov
          Suhov 15 July 2013 01: 52
          0
          Quote: SPACE
          well then Wolf, macaque and six sixes.

          With the assessment of Germany - I do not agree.
          The Germans reckon with the interests of Russia and Germany is most suitable for the role of Russia's strategic partner.
          If we unite, no one will give us a decree.
          Only Russians and Germans know how to fight.
          In addition, we have already hit them snot several times, so they should know their place.
          wassat
          1. Che
            Che 15 July 2013 19: 19
            0
            The Germans and I were always at the level, the Angles plagued our countries, and now this cannot be allowed to them.
    3. RA77
      RA77 14 July 2013 08: 50
      19
      G8 Summit, "The Wolf and the Seven Kids".

      And "kids" is a verb! (c) KVN
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    5. builder
      builder 14 July 2013 10: 27
      +2
      G8 Summit, "The Wolf and the Seven Kids".
      goats
    6. S-200
      S-200 14 July 2013 11: 09
      +1
      Quote: SPACE
      "The wolf and the seven Young goats".

      A colleague, it will be more politically correct:
      "Wolf and six goats + goat"
      laughing
      1. Sakhalininsk
        Sakhalininsk 14 July 2013 11: 45
        +7
        Quote: S-200
        "Wolf and six goats + goat"


        And here, by the way, my grandmother said in two ... I personally would not have guaranteed that there was only one goat)))) given the activity of Western homosexuals, with a high probability we can assume that a couple of three are crappy holey ...
    7. Arthur 775
      Arthur 775 15 July 2013 00: 32
      0
      well done ........
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  2. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 14 July 2013 08: 31
    +2
    The situation in Syria is the second marker (the first is Snowden). Say "A", say "B". Putin will keep Syria against all - a REAL politician and a REAL force. Will not hold - accordingly. And the situation is difficult. There are no eight kids. There are eight goats and, unfortunately, with horns.
    1. sedoj
      sedoj 14 July 2013 12: 31
      +4
      Quote: serge-68-68
      No eight kids. There are eight goats and, unfortunately, with horns.

      Not understood. And who is the eighth goat?
      1. redwar6
        redwar6 14 July 2013 17: 10
        0
        Hmmm, maybe the eighth big brother he meant, but SaShu was mentioned ..
  3. dojjdik
    dojjdik 14 July 2013 08: 35
    +4
    Algeria has long been controlled by French Jews and the former Fransgas, so there is now silence; and in Iran the oil and gas fields are nationalized - that's why the stupid quibbles of the Israeli government about the non-existent "nuclear program" and to Syria, Israel's propaganda quibbles about the non-existent chemical weapons - the goal is the seizure of the entire Persian Gulf and the robbery of oil and gas similar to Saudi Arabia and Qatar ; why is it that states and other countries can sell weapons to Israel, but we cannot sell even defensive air defense to Iran, a question to Lavrov
    1. mole
      mole 14 July 2013 16: 19
      +1
      Sadly ... All life is a game, states and the interests of corporations in it are actors, and people (people) in it are scenery. belay
  4. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 14 July 2013 08: 36
    +8
    Our political firmness on the world stage in recent years has been very pleasing! This has not happened for a long time. The prestige of Russia is growing !!
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 14 July 2013 08: 56
      +7
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Our political firmness on the world stage in recent years has been very pleasing! This has not happened for a long time. The prestige of Russia is growing !!

      Putin is to blame again))
      1. mole
        mole 14 July 2013 16: 21
        +1
        And the Ministry of Foreign Affairs! Do a great job! good
  5. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 14 July 2013 09: 07
    -8
    Quote: Russ69
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Our political firmness on the world stage in recent years has been very pleasing! This has not happened for a long time. The prestige of Russia is growing !!

    Putin is to blame again))

    Putin has no way out .. Even if instead of him someone else would have been forced to conduct the same policy differently "terrible Russian revolt" There is such a concept boiling point, so in Russia it is at the red line .. And if the war, the majority will stand under arms and they will crumble (no drones, precision weapons, etc.) will not save anyone.
    1. omsbon
      omsbon 14 July 2013 11: 01
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      Quote: MIKHAN
      .Even if instead of him another would have been forced to conduct the same policy in a different way "terrible Russian revolt"

      Can you imagine that the authorities are currently struggling with a drunkard or a dimon iPhone, that one of them would be capable of confronting on a summit? To defend the interests of Russia? Do not make me laugh!
    2. mole
      mole 14 July 2013 16: 36
      +3
      In the 90s, the boiling point was much lower! Now it’s far to a boil. Most all the same, they are busy with business and will not get up under arms. Although they can easily. It is necessary to raise and educate children, and not to rebel. And Russia is stronger to do without looking back at Chubikov and Serdyukov. They have no place in the history of the Russian State, but in that case - if the State is STRONG! The strength of any state - depends on the life position of each citizen. Dissatisfied have always been and will be - not to please everyone. But the main thing is not to harm your State!
      1. Suhov
        Suhov 15 July 2013 01: 57
        0
        Quote: Mole
        Dissatisfied have always been and will be - not to please everyone.

        Can you guess everyone?
        laughing
    3. redwar6
      redwar6 14 July 2013 17: 13
      +1
      Do not tell. Any revolutionary movement is supported, first of all, by the West. For example, I’ll go for the government. If, God forbid, this happens.
      1. mole
        mole 14 July 2013 17: 57
        +1
        God grant that it doesn't happen! Gregory, I hope not for the Government, but for the good of His State! As for the West - not by the West, but by Corporations (that is, those who have money), that's what they are doing. And here - do not succumb to the "demon", look ahead! Now the Revolution can also be sponsored by Asia. The main thing to consider - WHAT IS FAVORABLE FOR YOU AS A CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY - I proceed from the fact that I am pleased to know that if I am taken prisoner in any other state, then I WILL BE SURE that they will release me, and most importantly, then, explain to the world community - THIS IS OUR CITIZEN! AND WE DID EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO RETURN IT! And on this basis, support the one who defends YOUR inters. This is democracy.
        1. redwar6
          redwar6 15 July 2013 01: 22
          +1
          Rather like that.
  6. KBPC50
    KBPC50 14 July 2013 09: 38
    +2
    How do these bastards want to get drunk on human blood !!! But time passes, and soon the Arabs will conquer the whole Geyropu !!! The weapons themselves were being pushed.
    1. faraon
      faraon 14 July 2013 10: 16
      -9
      Well, if you so want, get ready to buy a hijab for your wife and daughters, buy a Koran in Russian for yourself, do circumcision, learn how to get up at 4.30 in the morning, unfurl the green banner of Islam and meet your own. Only I doubt that they will regret you, how wrong you were you will stay with them.
      1. aleksandroff
        aleksandroff 14 July 2013 14: 15
        +4
        that’s why I don’t understand Israel. why does he support and help that motley crowd of militants who could spread to him and Europe. it is possible to agree with the Syrian president (secular power), but not with the militants. how inconsistent is Israel, some of your Arabs are good, but others are not. and interestingly, support is precisely for those Islamists who can wear Israel hijabs. although the Bible says that God will help you and they won’t conquer you.
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 14 July 2013 14: 48
        +4
        Quote: faraon
        .Only I doubt that they will regret you

        Unlike Jews, Russians do not need pity, Russians themselves will "pity" anyone.
        1. Samminosh
          Samminosh 14 July 2013 15: 14
          0
          Then why be surprised at the Israeli position?
          They, too, will "regret" whoever you want in the region
          But there is no peace treaty between Syria and Israel, 40 years already as a war.
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 14 July 2013 17: 25
            +3
            Quote: Samminosh
            Then why be surprised at the Israeli position?
            They, too, will "regret" whoever you want in the region

            This is a delusion, Israel stands as long as the industrial power of the United States stands behind it, I repeat once again, this is not the power of Israel, this is the power of the United States, Israel does not have its own "power".
      3. mole
        mole 14 July 2013 16: 40
        +1
        So Israel itself provokes all this disgrace. So the quran in Hebrew is more likely to start selling than I buy a hijab to my wife wink
      4. rauffg
        rauffg 14 July 2013 22: 58
        +2
        I am a Tatar. My Muslim grandfathers fought for Russia and worked for Russia. My Muslim grandmothers did not wear hijabs, but tied scarves, like many women in Russia. My wife and daughter will not wear a hijab, this is my word.
        1. Che
          Che 16 July 2013 19: 11
          0
          Rauf.
          Since the times of Great Tartary we are one country. Cards do not lie. They lie politics.
  7. Siberian
    Siberian 14 July 2013 09: 41
    -7
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Our political firmness on the world stage in recent years has been very pleasing! This has not happened for a long time. The prestige of Russia is growing !!

    Political firmness is good, but somehow everything is sloppy and not confidently childish.
    1. omsbon
      omsbon 14 July 2013 11: 04
      +7
      Quote: Siberian
      Political hardness is good, but somehow everything is sloppy and not confidently childish.

      Buddy Michael!
      According to an adult, is it with obscenities and beating of the muzzle? hi
      1. Siberian
        Siberian 14 July 2013 13: 12
        +1
        Quote: omsbon
        Quote: Siberian
        Political hardness is good, but somehow everything is sloppy and not confidently childish.

        Buddy Michael!
        According to an adult, is it with obscenities and beating of the muzzle? hi

        Not quite of course, but something like that would be possible. A bit more polite, who knows he will understand. PS star-striped nothing shy.
  8. faraon
    faraon 14 July 2013 10: 07
    -5
    Quote: dojjdik
    Algeria has long been controlled by French Jews and the former Fransgas, so there is now silence; and in Iran the oil and gas fields are nationalized - that's why the stupid quibbles of the Israeli government about the non-existent "nuclear program" and to Syria, Israel's propaganda quibbles about the non-existent chemical weapons - the goal is the seizure of the entire Persian Gulf and the robbery of oil and gas similar to Saudi Arabia and Qatar ; why is it that states and other countries can sell weapons to Israel, but we cannot sell even defensive air defense to Iran, a question to Lavrov

    What, YOU want to say, dear, by your post, That for you the stable situation in the country is nonsense (Algeria), well, this country cannot develop its own reserves, for this there are concessions and all Algeria and the French will benefit from it. The country will prosper .
    As for Iran and its nuclear program, again set the emphasis correctly. Show this
    the leader of the state who would openly declare his plans and voice them in the world media (Ahmedijinjad), and who after all this will allow him to have nuclear weapons. And as for the nuclear program, then YOU, dear, are mistaken, it exists and unfortunately develops elsewhere direction. Do not forget the nuclear weapon is a deterrent, not an aggression. It is not a club which you can swing left and right.
    Now With regard to Syria and its chemical weapons, again you are wrong to have it there in large numbers, I believe this is a threat not only to the inhabitants of the Middle East and the entire ecology of the region, it does not make out who is its own and who is a stranger. Moreover, if it turns out to be in the hands of religious fanatics.
    Now, about 6 Persian Gulf has been standing there for a long time there, so all questions themselves fall away. This question has long been resolved between Russia and the USA
    1. LENINGRADE
      LENINGRADE 14 July 2013 10: 29
      +2
      What about Syria and its chemical weapons, again, you are wrong to have it there in large numbers ------- Have you seen it? Why are you talking nonsense!
      1. omsbon
        omsbon 14 July 2013 11: 30
        +4
        Quote: LENINGRADE
        - Have you seen him?

        Dear Pharaoh!
        I also have a question about Syrian gas. Did you smell him? What smells? hi
    2. aleksandroff
      aleksandroff 14 July 2013 14: 26
      +5
      that is why it is necessary to leave the Assad alone so that the chemical weapons are in good hands. in the hands of the legitimate leadership of Syria, who is Assad. otherwise the fanatics will come to you with him. and "thank" you for your help. and about the development of oil - maybe Russia in the 90s also could not carry out the development of fields itself, since foreign companies came here and almost completely lowered the economy of Russia. and France and some others, this is a colonial country, and it was still not good for anyone when she robbed and plundered Africa.
    3. smile
      smile 14 July 2013 15: 30
      +5
      faraon
      Concessions exist for that. to pump resources from colonial countries. more for nothing. They have not made and will not make any of the countries prosperous. Any country, having become at least a little independent first thing, stops looting its resources with the help of concessions.
    4. mole
      mole 14 July 2013 16: 59
      +1
      The region will flourish if, in the internal sovereignty of the states of this region, it will not be targeted by neighbors. From these blows, the ecology is definitely not improving, and even more so from the 6th fleet. So the questions disappear by themselves!
      And by concessions, dear, name at least one state in which the standard of living would rise from external interference? I can name Venezuela, after nationalization, in which there is a REAL increase in living standards (we do not consider a handful of those offended).
      You can also give the IMF an example - such loans for the development of the economy allocate that after these loans the states have shown rampant economic growth for several decades.
      Do not tell, your state’s policy is one of the most philanthropic in the world. I absolutely agree with you. am
  9. SmacXnumx
    SmacXnumx 14 July 2013 10: 18
    0
    Mom and seven on the benches. (The kids got quite a beat off)
  10. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 14 July 2013 10: 36
    10
    Putin’s political experience is not bad .. A man is far from stupid .. It’s hard for him now. One against almost everyone .. Russia is weak so far. He balances on the verge of a foul. Let it work! I am for him!
    1. Philemon
      Philemon 14 July 2013 15: 19
      +1
      I agree. Of course there are claims to him ... but, not having objective information, it is difficult to judge. We don't even know a hundredth of what is happening at the very top. And the fact that he is not an ordinary person is indisputable. And this can already be clearly seen against the background of the GXNUMX (not to mention such marginals as Yeltsin, Gorbachev, Dimon - God forgive me !!!).
  11. wax
    wax 14 July 2013 12: 11
    0
    Russia was the winner at the GXNUMX summit, and the winner, as you know, is always alone

    That's right, Marina!
  12. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 14 July 2013 12: 25
    +4
    Quote: omsbon
    Quote: MIKHAN
    .Even if instead of him another would have been forced to conduct the same policy in a different way "terrible Russian revolt"

    Can you imagine that the authorities are currently struggling with a drunkard or a dimon iPhone, that one of them would be capable of confronting on a summit? To defend the interests of Russia? Do not make me laugh!

    I'm talking about too .. !! Over Ukraine, 200 0 tanks are offered for cut .. we damn thanks to Gorbach and Yeltsin almost everything was put in the cut .. Now we are recovering with mats ..
  13. Htuek
    Htuek 14 July 2013 12: 34
    +1
    Quote: faraon
    Well, if you so want, get ready to buy a hijab for your wife and daughters, buy a Koran in Russian for yourself, do circumcision, learn how to get up at 4.30 in the morning, unfurl the green banner of Islam and meet your own. Only I doubt that they will regret you, how wrong you were you will stay with them.

    Why are you so nervous. or this government of your country (judging by the flag) is ready to throw firewood at the muzzle of war.
    And okay, the Koran and the hijab, even in this scenario we have a right to exist, but judging by everything, your Israelis will have something like a "night of long knives."
  14. Yurban
    Yurban 14 July 2013 12: 53
    +2
    Putin, well done.
  15. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 14 July 2013 14: 09
    0
    We’ll see who’s done and what will come of it. But Syria should never be thrown to the mercy of these bloodsuckers and circumcisers. Putin understands this very well, his political future is directly connected with Syria, but the Russian government is hardly in agreement with him!
  16. faraon
    faraon 14 July 2013 14: 16
    -1
    Quote: LENINGRADE
    What about Syria and its chemical weapons, again, you are wrong to have it there in large numbers ------- Have you seen it? Why are you talking nonsense!

    Not only that, owing to my work, I know where, how much and how it is protected. This is not a military secret. And believe me, this is a huge arsenal that can destroy everything in the region. Therefore, I am afraid. For example, do you have a gas mask? I have a whole family including a one year old baby.
    1. mole
      mole 14 July 2013 17: 08
      0
      I have IL in the safe, for hunting, but I don’t hunt people. But if I give it to a stranger, then there is a high probability that someone will sooner or later lose their lives. But until my house was taken away from me, with all the contents, it will not be applied to people. And my neighbors will not need body armor. By the way, I also have a gas mask, but I only keep it for work.
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 15 July 2013 02: 46
      +3
      Quote: faraon
      Do you have a gas mask? I have a whole family including a one year old baby.

      I do not have.
      And I don’t need him here in Russia.
      Welcome back home!
  17. faraon
    faraon 14 July 2013 14: 19
    0
    Quote: omsbon
    Quote: LENINGRADE
    - Have you seen him?

    Dear Pharaoh!
    I also have a question about Syrian gas. Did you smell him? What smells? hi

    That’s why I answered the question in a comment to Leningrader. And believe me, this is a terrible weapon. And do not downplay the danger of its use.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 14 July 2013 14: 58
      +5
      Quote: faraon
      And do not underestimate the danger of its use

      Of course you are right, do not underestimate the danger of using Israeli nuclear weapons, but let's bomb Israel, Russia can.
  18. MG42
    MG42 14 July 2013 14: 20
    +5
    It is clear that the further process of Islamization or democratization of the Middle East depends on how this conflict is resolved.

    Assad supports Iran with all its might, the Republic of Iran = the most powerful stronghold of the Islamic world, at the same time radical Islamists are fighting in the ranks of the SSA, about democratization and Islamization = example Egypt, the protege of the Muslim brothers Mursi was removed, the tourist business "Bedouins" did not go ... but the government was taken by the army, clearly not Democrats either ..
  19. faraon
    faraon 14 July 2013 14: 23
    0
    Quote: Htuek
    Quote: faraon
    Well, if you so want, get ready to buy a hijab for your wife and daughters, buy a Koran in Russian for yourself, do circumcision, learn how to get up at 4.30 in the morning, unfurl the green banner of Islam and meet your own. Only I doubt that they will regret you, how wrong you were you will stay with them.

    Why are you so nervous. or this government of your country (judging by the flag) is ready to throw firewood at the muzzle of war.
    And okay, the Koran and the hijab, even in this scenario we have a right to exist, but judging by everything, your Israelis will have something like a "night of long knives."

    Maybe, maybe you’re right, but we don’t have the Ural mountains for which we can retreat. So we’ll have to fight and there is no other choice, either we or they are us. As long as the score is 3-0 in our favor
    1. aleksandroff
      aleksandroff 14 July 2013 14: 34
      +2
      here and your Jewish cunning surprises. Help those who are ready to tear you to pieces. look, no matter how you outwit yourself. 3-0 is what’s due. while your victories are not visible, you are only looking for problems.
    2. smile
      smile 14 July 2013 16: 00
      +1
      faraon
      A clear honest answer. Although I don’t like your aggressive policy. For honesty +
      1. mole
        mole 14 July 2013 17: 13
        0
        With honesty - I agree. He says - he seems to believe in something! good
    3. mole
      mole 14 July 2013 17: 11
      0
      Quote: faraon
      So far, the score is 3-0 in our favor

      You are funny, unfortunately, and look like a scorpion who is trying to sting himself.
  20. knn54
    knn54 14 July 2013 14: 29
    +6
    Judging by the fact that the US Senate has banned the sale of weapons, and there are disagreements in the UK, the West has no former unity between the prime minister and the House of Lords. And Russian diplomacy is gradually lowering the level of the West’s political will with the PRC.
    Maybe I'm wrong, but the tough policy of the Russian Federation in relation to the "blue" plague showed EVERYONE who is HEALTHY in this world.
    And thanks to ONLY Russian media, people from ALL the planet saw firsthand the “alternative” to Assad.
    KEEP IT UP!
    PS "No need to bend under a changing world, let it bend under us."
    1. Philemon
      Philemon 14 July 2013 15: 27
      +1
      Pleased with the comment ... Especially about the "blue plague" ... We need to make this term worldwide. Lucidly. Support bloggers.
  21. faraon
    faraon 14 July 2013 14: 42
    0
    Quote: aleksandroff
    that is why it is necessary to leave the Assad alone so that the chemical weapons are in good hands. in the hands of the legitimate leadership of Syria, who is Assad. otherwise the fanatics will come to you with him. and "thank" you for your help. and about the development of oil - maybe Russia in the 90s also could not carry out the development of fields itself, since foreign companies came here and almost completely lowered the economy of Russia. and France and some others, this is a colonial country, and it was still not good for anyone when she robbed and plundered Africa.

    Yes, calm down at last. No one is stopping Assad from forging a victory. A flag is in his hands, even if he does not put Hizbale’s weapons on it, that’s all. This is the main condition. It’s acceptable for Israel. Pay attention. The bombing is carried out only on strategic objects, weapons that are intended for Hezbollah.
    As for the African countries of the former colonies of England and France. Until then, as long as they were colonies, they were stable states with a puppet government. Look what Libya, Samoli, and the whole of Africa are now. One is not a silent military conflict. Understand me, the cook cannot lead the country correctly . What came of it (the Kukharkino board) You yourself have been observing for twenty years.
    Russia is a great country and can itself develop both gas and oil and their processing. You do not compare the countries of Africa with Russia. This is not the level of education, culture, understanding. Although there are smart people there, but they cannot turn the country into right direction as they are units
    1. Samminosh
      Samminosh 14 July 2013 15: 06
      0
      Quote: faraon
      Quote: aleksandroff
      that is why it is necessary to leave the Assad alone so that the chemical weapons are in good hands. in the hands of the legitimate leadership of Syria, who is Assad. otherwise the fanatics will come to you with him. and "thank" you for your help. and about the development of oil - maybe Russia in the 90s also could not carry out the development of fields itself, since foreign companies came here and almost completely lowered the economy of Russia. and France and some others, this is a colonial country, and it was still not good for anyone when she robbed and plundered Africa.

      Yes, calm down at last. No one is stopping Assad from forging a victory. A flag is in his hands, even if he does not put Hizbale’s weapons on it, that’s all. This is the main condition. It’s acceptable for Israel. Pay attention. The bombing is carried out only on strategic objects, weapons that are intended for Hezbollah.

      Like the Yakhont missiles and the research institute in Damascus? Or the not yet delivered S-300s, because of which Netanyahu unsuccessfully rode to Moscow? An unwashed Lebanese savage cannot cope with such a technique; training in Russia is necessary there; and Assad has no time for the war with Israel, his problems are in abundance for many long years.
      I perfectly understand the position of the Jews in the Syrian war and, in your place, probably would have acted the same way, but let's not dissemble?
      Strikes against Syria are not only inflicted on Hezbollah, it is preferable for you to gnaw each other's throats with the SSA and lag behind the Jews.
      And the fact that half the country will be filled with blood, without the S-300 and NATO anti-ship missiles, it could well put its snout there, so these are not your problems. Firewood is cut - chips fly, or something like that.
    2. 3 inches.
      3 inches. 14 July 2013 15: 19
      +1
      a cook doesn’t mean ... and who can? please find me an educational institution where presidents are prepared for countries. and remind you of such names as Stalin Napoleon and even da Hitler who managed to raise their countries in a short time so that the current highly learned rulers so I don’t even dream about it. So you’re flying over with a cook. But remember back those leaders whose ancestors in the 20th generation are kings emperors and others, but with such baggage they managed to destroy the flourishing states in an extremely short time.
    3. mole
      mole 14 July 2013 17: 24
      +1
      Michael, and the cook can competently manage. I know from my life experience. And I also know that a person with several higher educations is not able to solve, banally, everyday issues. It is not tricky to drive with your hands, but to achieve the set goals, this is a different level and talent is needed here, at least at the household level, and even without the level of world education. I can cite a lot of examples from history and personal experience. The main ability, and secondary education. Please don’t hang up clichés. Here is not the site where you can "drive your ears".
    4. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 15 July 2013 03: 01
      +3
      Quote: faraon
      the cook cannot lead the country. What came of it (the Kuharkino rule) you yourself have been observing for twenty years.

      I agree ...
      The people were "shod" with the promise of shitty values.
      Now the entire "civilized Western world" is applying these values ​​as a "Procrustean bed", not wanting to notice the bloody rains of the Arab spring.
      And today we "slurp" the stew, brewed by "leaky" cooks according to crappy recipes. We may get indigestion, but we have a cure for both Russia and the "cooks".
  22. faraon
    faraon 14 July 2013 15: 00
    -1
    Quote: aleksandroff
    here and your Jewish cunning surprises. Help those who are ready to tear you to pieces. look, no matter how you outwit yourself. 3-0 is what’s due. while your victories are not visible, you are only looking for problems.

    Yes, nobody helps anyone. Israel is neutral in this conflict, how can you not understand this? The legitimate government of Syria, led by Bashar al-Assad, must stop supplying weapons to Hezbollah and you will not see or hear Israeli planes in the sky of Syria. Only intended weapons are bombed. Hezbollah’s terrorist organization, since it’s going to be directly used against Israel in the hands of this organization, and this will have very serious consequences for neighboring Lebanon. And the hezbollah will turn out to be white and fluffy as always, and the people will suffer.
    1. Samminosh
      Samminosh 14 July 2013 15: 09
      0
      Honestly, do you really think that Assad will give Hezbollah rocket technology so hard to pay?
      No one answered the end-user certificate, and Assad will have to answer for the use of such technology.
      And they all know this very well, including the Alavite.
  23. faraon
    faraon 14 July 2013 15: 03
    -1
    Quote: Setrac
    Quote: faraon
    .Only I doubt that they will regret you

    Unlike Jews, Russians do not need pity, Russians themselves will "pity" anyone.

    Yes, of course, I would still be sorry for Russians. In Russia, many more Russian women are still coming up with - You mean it.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 14 July 2013 15: 09
      +3
      Quote: faraon
      Yes, of course, I would still be sorry for Russians. In Russia, many more Russian women are still coming up with - You mean it.

      So I had no doubt that a Jew would say THIS, there is no need to hurt Russian women, discuss your "women". You know better than me what I mean, consult a psychiatrist.
      1. Samminosh
        Samminosh 14 July 2013 15: 11
        -3
        These are the words of one ancient Russian military leader, by the way.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 14 July 2013 17: 32
          0
          Quote: Samminosh
          These are the words of one ancient Russian military leader, by the way.

          Ancient? Is that what it's called now? You are probably a foreigner, Russian wouldn’t write like that.
          1. Samminosh
            Samminosh 14 July 2013 18: 01
            0
            Do not fall into insanity.

            With these words, Menshikov reassured Peter I after the savage losses of the Russian army.
            Then they were mistakenly attributed to Zhukov.
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 14 July 2013 18: 43
              0
              Quote: Samminosh
              With these words, Menshikov reassured Peter I after the savage losses of the Russian army.
              Then they were mistakenly attributed to Zhukov.

              And the stenographer, sitting behind the wall, wrote down the words with which Menshikov reassured Peter the Great. No, not like that, you are an eyewitness and you saw everything with your own eyes! Or maybe it was recorded in the tale of bygone years?
              1. Samminosh
                Samminosh 14 July 2013 19: 13
                -1
                This is a legend that has been around for hundreds of years.
                And you’re an eyewitness to the campaign that it was not Menshikov who came up with this, but personally the Jews to discredit the Russian people.
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 14 July 2013 19: 34
                  0
                  Quote: Samminosh
                  This is a legend that has been around for hundreds of years.
                  And you’re an eyewitness to the campaign that it was not Menshikov who came up with this, but personally the Jews to discredit the Russian people.

                  These are your fantasies, in my words there is nothing like that. This legend is just someone’s invention.
                  1. Samminosh
                    Samminosh 14 July 2013 20: 05
                    0
                    They brought you a famous old quote, you turned to the individual)))
                    1. Setrac
                      Setrac 14 July 2013 20: 29
                      0
                      Quote: Samminosh
                      They brought you a famous old quote, you turned to the individual)))

                      I did not insult anyone, no transition to personality. And I do not consider THIS a quote, it is an invention of historians. Menshikov did not say such a thing, but if he did, then this information could not reach us.
  24. faraon
    faraon 14 July 2013 15: 18
    -2
    Quote: Samminosh
    Quote: faraon
    Quote: aleksandroff
    that is why it is necessary to leave the Assad alone so that the chemical weapons are in good hands. in the hands of the legitimate leadership of Syria, who is Assad. otherwise the fanatics will come to you with him. and "thank" you for your help. and about the development of oil - maybe Russia in the 90s also could not carry out the development of fields itself, since foreign companies came here and almost completely lowered the economy of Russia. and France and some others, this is a colonial country, and it was still not good for anyone when she robbed and plundered Africa.

    Yes, calm down at last. No one is stopping Assad from forging a victory. A flag is in his hands, even if he does not put Hizbale’s weapons on it, that’s all. This is the main condition. It’s acceptable for Israel. Pay attention. The bombing is carried out only on strategic objects, weapons that are intended for Hezbollah.

    Like the Yakhont missiles and the research institute in Damascus? Or the not yet delivered S-300s, because of which Netanyahu unsuccessfully rode to Moscow? An unwashed Lebanese savage cannot cope with such a technique; training in Russia is necessary there; and Assad has no time for the war with Israel, his problems are in abundance for many long years.
    I perfectly understand the position of the Jews in the Syrian war and, in your place, probably would have acted the same way, but let's not dissemble?
    Strikes against Syria are not only inflicted on Hezbollah, it is preferable for you to gnaw each other's throats with the SSA and lag behind the Jews.
    And the fact that half the country will be filled with blood, without the S-300 and NATO anti-ship missiles, it could well put its snout there, so these are not your problems. Firewood is cut - chips fly, or something like that.

    You misunderstood the air strikes being carried out on caravans with weapons designed for Hezbollah, Israel does not intervene in the Syrian civil war. On whose side is what you said in your post, yes it is true, and indeed there is no guile here, this is Syria’s internal conflict, let it It is resolved by itself. This conflict did not begin in Israel, so the blood of which was flooded half the country is not in the hands of the Israelis, but on those defectors who betrayed the legitimate government of Assad. What they repent of, but the train, as they say, is gone. So Dear everything that happens in Syria and Egypt is an internal affair of these countries
    1. Samminosh
      Samminosh 14 July 2013 15: 41
      +3
      The conflict was initiated from outside, you are enjoying its fruits, and if you are not caught by the hand, this does not mean that Israel "does not intervene."
      Airstrikes are carried out at the headquarters of the Syrian army, as well as at the locations of strategically important weapons such as air defense and cruise missiles, to which Hizbala has nothing to do.
      They can be used only by Assad.
      So let's really stop hypocritical. You are helping to destroy Syria.
      Hizbalah is just an excuse.
  25. faraon
    faraon 14 July 2013 15: 25
    -1
    Quote: Setrac
    Quote: faraon
    Yes, of course, I would still be sorry for Russians. In Russia, many more Russian women are still coming up with - You mean it.

    So I had no doubt that a Jew would say THIS, there is no need to hurt Russian women, discuss your "women". You know better than me what I mean, consult a psychiatrist.

    No, you misunderstood, if you make such statements just to bomb or something like that, you take into account the opposite consequences. And finally, think about it at the beginning, and then make statements. And the psychiatrist has nothing to do with it. And as for the Russian women, they can’t cope with their functions again, they don’t do anything in the army, think about who will become operational in a year.
    1. bord731
      bord731 14 July 2013 17: 08
      -1
      In order for you to be correctly understood, learn to express your thoughts correctly and watch your spelling ... sorry for directness ...
    2. mole
      mole 14 July 2013 17: 26
      -1
      Lack of personnel - replace drones. wink
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 14 July 2013 17: 38
        0
        Quote: Mole
        Lack of personnel - replace drones.

        First we replace ourselves with drones, then drones replace us with ourselves? tongue
  26. dojjdik
    dojjdik 14 July 2013 15: 31
    0
    the score 3-0 from a military point of view is stupid - Israel cannot yet apply a massive raid on Syria; and these raids on the sly will not bring any change; but Syrian air defense will gradually shoot and there will come a moment when the rudeness of Israeli pilots comes to an end
    1. Samminosh
      Samminosh 14 July 2013 15: 43
      0
      They will bring it.
      For all the formidable rhetoric of the air defense, Israeli planes are trying not to notice.
      A war on so many Syrian fronts cannot be pulled.
  27. faraon
    faraon 14 July 2013 15: 36
    -2
    Quote: 3 inches.
    a cook doesn’t mean ... and who can? please find me an educational institution where presidents are prepared for countries. and remind you of such names as Stalin Napoleon and even da Hitler who managed to raise their countries in a short time so that the current highly learned rulers so I don’t even dream about it. So you’re flying over with a cook. But remember back those leaders whose ancestors in the 20th generation are kings emperors and others, but with such baggage they managed to destroy the flourishing states in an extremely short time.

    That is precisely what destroys the state of their own people to build a bright future, as well as sell sawn and so on, that is, not able to take on the fateful decision to develop the country. Understand you need a competent ruler who would meet the modern requirements of the development of statehood, a sober politician, not a politician.
    1. mole
      mole 14 July 2013 17: 28
      +1
      I got the impression that you are here with provocative goals!
  28. faraon
    faraon 14 July 2013 15: 46
    -1
    Quote: smile
    faraon
    Concessions exist for that. to pump resources from colonial countries. more for nothing. They have not made and will not make any of the countries prosperous. Any country, having become at least a little independent first thing, stops looting its resources with the help of concessions.

    And he finds new concessionaires who are engaged in concrete plunder of the state, bringing income to specific individual representatives of the ruling elite (Example Libya, Russia)
  29. faraon
    faraon 14 July 2013 15: 54
    -3
    Quote: Samminosh
    The conflict was initiated from outside, you are enjoying its fruits, and if you are not caught by the hand, this does not mean that Israel "does not intervene."
    Airstrikes are carried out at the headquarters of the Syrian army, as well as at the locations of strategically important weapons such as air defense and cruise missiles, to which Hizbala has nothing to do.
    They can be used only by Assad.
    So let's really stop hypocritical. You are helping to destroy Syria.
    Hizbalah is just an excuse.

    Where do you get this information? It is not at all purely logically incomprehensible that Israel is obsessed with what is happening in Syria, why it needs army headquarters, and in general the Syrian Army, which has been fighting the opposition for two years only with the help of units and military experts from Russia, has finally begun to substantially beat and oppress all these oppositionists. For Israel, the main thing is that the weapons of the conflict zone should not fall into the hands of the Hezbollah terrorist organization. And you just don’t tell me that Hezbollah is white and fluffy. And it is fighting on the side of Syria just so that Iran does not stop funding this organization.
    1. mole
      mole 14 July 2013 17: 35
      +1
      And yet,
      Quote: faraon
      Is it really purely logically not clear that Israel is obsessively on the drum
      what’s most important is the principles of democracy and universal values.
      И
      Quote: faraon
      Where do you get this information?

      Hezbollah is our enemy, Al Qaeda is our friend, Syria is a friend, but we are delivering targeted strikes ... They are completely confused and themselves are confused.
      Do you have friends other than the USA and the Russian Federation? Although the Russian Federation is also under the "?"
      OUR ancients said - "One is not a warrior in the field"! I admire your spirit - but with this approach, you will perish.
      1. Samminosh
        Samminosh 14 July 2013 17: 57
        0
        RF friend?
        Somehow we are not very friends with them.
        Israeli provision of Georgia before the five-day, Soviet provision of the Arabs before the six-day.
        One warrior in the field, if he knows that he is alone.
        Snowden guarantees.
        1. mole
          mole 14 July 2013 18: 06
          0
          Not very, not very. But still friends. In any case, we are not fighting. Snowden, unfortunately, is alone and EMU does not guarantee anything. There are no exact guarantees! And there - how it goes. I believe in a happy end! All the same, sorry for Don Quixote!
          1. Samminosh
            Samminosh 14 July 2013 20: 07
            0
            We are not at war with the United States. But you can’t name friends.
            Let's not go into sophistry?
  30. Samminosh
    Samminosh 14 July 2013 17: 20
    +1
    Quote: faraon
    Quote: Samminosh
    The conflict was initiated from outside, you are enjoying its fruits, and if you are not caught by the hand, this does not mean that Israel "does not intervene."
    Airstrikes are carried out at the headquarters of the Syrian army, as well as at the locations of strategically important weapons such as air defense and cruise missiles, to which Hizbala has nothing to do.
    They can be used only by Assad.
    So let's really stop hypocritical. You are helping to destroy Syria.
    Hizbalah is just an excuse.

    Where do you get this information? Is it really purely logically not clear that Israel is obsessed with the drum that is happening in Syria

    The closest adversary against which regular airstrikes are applied has become "all over the place"?
    Do you believe that yourself?
    why does he need army headquarters, and in general the Syrian Army, which has been fighting the opposition for two years only with the help of units and military experts from Russia
    Where are the military specialists coming from? We only help with technical equipment (under old contracts, eslicho) and diplomatic support, if military personnel there, if they go, then from Iran.
    But the USA, Saudis, Qatar are engaged in open support for bandits. And the preparation and equipment.
    By the way, are you not afraid that all these American MANPADS and anti-tank systems will then be used against IDF?
    For Israel, the main thing is that the weapon of the conflict zone does not fall into the hands of the Hezbollah terrorist organization.
    But if in Al-Nusra or Al Qaeda, then it’s normal, right?
    And you just don’t tell me that Hezbollah is white and fluffy. And she is fighting on the side of Syria just so that Iran would not stop funding this organization.
    Yes, she is not white and fluffy. Hostile to Jews and as unprincipled in practices as Israel.
    What side current is the Yakhont and S-300, which you are constantly opposing?
    This is the defensive weapon of the Syrian state, not Hezbollah.
    1. faraon
      faraon 14 July 2013 23: 44
      -1
      Yes, Syria is the closest belligerent adversary, Avio strikes are carried out in warehouses with weapons designed by Hezbollah (by the way, the latest information with missiles from the SNN was not confirmed either by Syria or other sources)
      If you are so sure that all the problems come from Israel, then what is more difficult for Israel to roll into dust the same Syria, Egypt, and everyone who is directly dangerous. Think about it!
      Possessing the most combat-ready army equipped and modern, as well as US support (as you say), it was not difficult.
      but as you see, Israel is observing what’s just happening in Syria, and moreover, it made a statement about the entry of Russian peacekeepers to the Golan heights, so that later they wouldn’t speak and suck Israel’s aggression against Syria.
      Yes, and that Israel in relation to Syria is territorially this sixth part of the population a little more. It's ridiculous to simply compare.
      so, dear, believe Israel, it’s obscene all the same, it maintains neutrality in this conflict. Since any military operation is primarily money and not small. For what it should spend it. There are more important goals in the social, medical and educational sphere.
      You ask where the military specialists are from, and then you answer what’s from Iran, and from where, where there are academies, military schools that train specialists of this profile. If not for nuclear specialists from Russia, the station in Bushehr would still be called the construction site of the century I hope that you will not deny it.
      Israel is a small state; it cannot withstand all terrorist groups; therefore, the main goal is Hezbollah. Well, Al-Nusra or Al Qaeda is a prerogative of Russia and the USA to amuse their national consciousness, but how can it be.
      Yes, as far as weapons are concerned, maybe you are right, but the probability of falling into Hezbollah’s hands is very high. Or do you think that Israel has nothing to do but fly and blow, There are intelligence departments that monitor any movement of weapons, and then give recommendations to the army.
      1. Rosomaha67
        Rosomaha67 15 July 2013 00: 09
        -1
        .... dear faraon, I must say that I am quite loyal to the state of Israel, I even consider it to be our ally in the Middle East in some way, the main thing is that he does not come here to us and there on his borders I fully support his policy in the attitude of the aggressors and the Palestinians, we have enough of our "goats" so I understand you. Just say that Israel is completely neutral in this conflict, there’s too much, well, not in the traditions of your state, and the national trait can’t get anywhere (please don’t regard it as anti-Semitism) well, you cannot deduct not to have at least a little of your own "gesheft", but I will not believe it.
        1. faraon
          faraon 15 July 2013 00: 44
          0
          Dear Rassamaha, it’s not a matter of gesheft, it’s more serious. Israel has everything to repulse the attack even more, to strike back, but whoever needs it, all this haemo swarm. It’s much cheaper to prevent aggression than to stop it - that’s all the benefit.
          I’ll explain to you, dear. Any war, even a small one, is, above all, irreparable losses in manpower and equipment, and now don’t consider me a cynic in our state, the first place is worthy compensation for the loss of a soldier. It will not return the mother to her son, but will give her a decent life to a very old age. (again, sorry for cynicism)
  31. Darth Revan
    Darth Revan 14 July 2013 18: 04
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    Quote: kartalovkolya
    but the Russian government is unlikely to agree with him!


    And change it to Putin weakly? Let DAM be played in London with its iPhones and iPads!
  32. vezunchik
    vezunchik 14 July 2013 19: 41
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    Israel first used the latest submarine fleet to strike at an object in Syria. According to the London Sunday Times, on July 5, the Dolphin-class submarine launched medium-range cruise missiles.

    They hit military depots in the Syrian Mediterranean port area. According to the publication, the target was 50 anti-ship missiles "Yakhont", the supply of which the Syrian army carried out by Russia.

    The current attack was the fourth in a row that Israel conducted against targets in Syria over the past two years, the newspaper notes. However, before that, similar operations were carried out using aircraft.
    AND WHERE OUR PRAISED WITH 300? IS THE MOST STRONGEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD ISRAEL ??? and OURS HOW ALWAYS P ... DAY ???
    1. igor67
      igor67 14 July 2013 21: 24
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      Quote: vezunchik
      Israel first used the latest submarine fleet to strike at an object in Syria. According to the London Sunday Times, on July 5, the Dolphin-class submarine launched medium-range cruise missiles.

      They hit military depots in the Syrian Mediterranean port area. According to the publication, the target was 50 anti-ship missiles "Yakhont", the supply of which the Syrian army carried out by Russia.

      The current attack was the fourth in a row that Israel conducted against targets in Syria over the past two years, the newspaper notes. However, before that, similar operations were carried out using aircraft.
      AND WHERE OUR PRAISED WITH 300? IS THE MOST STRONGEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD ISRAEL ??? and OURS HOW ALWAYS P ... DAY ???

      Yes, it’s a chip, there is a Russian reconnaissance vessel, wouldn’t it be possible to record the launch of three missiles from a submarine, or the attack of aircraft?
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    3. rauffg
      rauffg 15 July 2013 00: 04
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      Anglo-Saxons lie, drive propaganda.
      The Sunday Times, an English Sunday newspaper. Published since 1822 in London and Manchester by Times Newspapers, Limited. Publishes political information, comments on current international and domestic issues, materials on sports and cultural topics. It reflects the interests of financial and industrial capital. Readers of "S. t." are mainly the big and middle bourgeoisie and the intelligentsia
  33. 1goose3
    1goose3 14 July 2013 19: 57
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    Quote: SPACE
    G8 Summit, "The Wolf and the Seven Kids".

    ... and seven goats. laughing
  34. Sergey47
    Sergey47 14 July 2013 21: 16
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    Our political firmness on the world stage in recent years has been very pleasing! This has not happened for a long time. The prestige of Russia is growing !!

    Che is growing somewhere not there. With Snowden, everything is somehow fearful. We show S-300 from around the corner and threaten "Uzhooo ... we are for you," but we do not supply Assad. Iran was also not given. Some show-off instead of concrete and firm steps. Deeds are needed, not threats.
  35. individual
    individual 14 July 2013 22: 35
    +1
    "... the final communiqué of the summit on Syria, adopted jointly with Russia and designed to keep regional players from interfering in the Syrian crisis. And in this sense, Russia at the GXNUMX summit was the winner, and, as you know, there is always one winner."

    Self-complacency is not necessary, we know the price of the treaties and the communiqué of the United States and NATO.
    Not yourself so with the hands of the Saudis and Qatars, it is possible to supply Western weapons to bandits in Syria. And Israel has its own policy of intervention in the region.
  36. faraon
    faraon 14 July 2013 23: 51
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    Quote: Setrac
    Quote: Samminosh
    They brought you a famous old quote, you turned to the individual)))

    I did not insult anyone, no transition to personality. And I do not consider THIS a quote, it is an invention of historians. Menshikov did not say such a thing, but if he did, then this information could not reach us.

    Well, guys, you give a discussion of world problems and you don't know where you come from about Russian women. Learn the literature. Bulgakov "Heart of a Dog" quote belongs to Professor Preobrazhensky
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 16 July 2013 13: 18
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      Quote: faraon
      You give discussing world problems and you don't know where you come from about Russian women. Learn the literature. Bulgakov "Heart of a Dog" quote belongs to Professor Preobrazhensky

      Professor Preobrazhensky is a fictional character, even if there is an analogue in life, the quote belongs to the writer Bulgakov, based on your words. But the question is where did he get this phrase?