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In Moscow, at the round table discussed the creation of scientific units in the Armed Forces

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In the Russian International Information Agency "RIA News"a round table was held, the main topic of which was the creation of scientific companies in the Armed Forces.


The event was attended by Deputy Minister of Defense Colonel-General Oleg Ostapenko, State Secretary, Deputy Minister of Defense Nikolai Pankov, well-known military experts, representatives of leading media, the scientific community of the country and public organizations, the official website of the Ministry of Defense informs.

The call for servicemen to scientific companies began on July 5. The first units have already been formed from students of MSTU. Bauman, MAI, MIPT, other technical universities.

The idea of ​​creating scientific units in the Armed Forces provides for attracting students to carry out scientific work in the interests of the Russian Defense Ministry during their service in the army.

One of the main issues that interested all participants of the round table and caused an active discussion is the principles and criteria by which the effectiveness of the scientific work of military personnel in such units will be assessed.

As Nikolai Pankov explained, “it is hardly worth relying only on commander's assessments — in this case, it is very important how the work of military personnel is assessed by supervisors and scientific consultants.”

In turn, Oleg Ostapenko explained that no one would immediately demand a result. "The sequence of solving a given task or a scientific problem is important here," he stressed.

He also noted that "the work of each soldier will be evaluated separately, and from such assessments the final one will be formed for the whole company".

Oleg Ostapenko said that the Ministry of Defense will also create a naval scientific company, which will be formed from students at specialized universities.

According to him, the circle of its main tasks will include, in particular, "developments in the interests of the military department in the underwater, surface and robotic areas."

In addition to scientific companies of a technical nature, the possibility of creating scientific units of a humanitarian profile is being considered. One of them can be created at the Central Archive of the Ministry of Defense of Russia.

"We are now actively working in this direction. Here you are both military sociology, and psychology, and история"- said Nikolai Pankov.

“Perhaps history is the first. Let the young specialists study the history of the Second World War, let their scientific work be connected with working out irrefutable arguments against historical falsifications that today breed both in Russia and abroad,” Nikolai explained his thought Punks.

The participants of the round table were also concerned about the question of whether traveling abroad would be limited for servicemen of scientific companies.

As Oleg Ostapenko explained, "there are certain restrictions, but they are not related to going abroad, on the contrary, they are possible, because you can't boil in your own juice, you need to share experiences, know what the scientific community of the world is doing."

As for the exact number of scientific companies that will be created in the Russian army, it has not yet been determined.

“We didn’t count the number of scientific companies, we went according to the principle: better is less and better. To begin with, there will be four such companies,” said Nikolai Pankov.
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  1. ShturmKGB
    ShturmKGB 12 July 2013 09: 36 New
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    The thing is necessary and correct, the intellectual potential must be used correctly ... there is no need to hammer nails with a microscope, let them make discoveries!
  2. Airman
    Airman 12 July 2013 09: 46 New
    +3
    Initially, it was planned to create 2 companies for the experiment, now 4, with going abroad to exchange "experience". There are no results yet, but already round tables. Apparently a lot of thieves turned out, in the 2-x companies do not fit.
    1. little man
      little man 12 July 2013 15: 58 New
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      Right! Otherwise, the meaning of all this nonsense is not clear!
      What can these students think of? Graduated graduates even swim in production or research institutes until they gain experience. And here ....
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 12 July 2013 22: 17 New
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        Quote: man
        What can these students think of? Graduated graduates even swim in production or research institutes until they gain experience. And here ....

        My friend has a son. From the age of seven, he got addicted to flying toys, such as a helicopter. From the beginning there were the simplest Chinese batteries, then more impressive, with gyroscopes. Now he and his dad are collecting on "gasoline" with video recorders. Both mayo ...
        He’s already a ready-made UAV operator since childhood, on occasion he can scout “from horizon to horizon”. It will be needed - it can also “plant” a missile at a target.
        Here explain to me why you want to send him to run with a machine gun through the fields?
        1. little man
          little man 13 July 2013 00: 05 New
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          I explain. It turns out a scientist or not - the question. And these so-called "scientific"
          companies are not the best place for such experiments. And serve already now there’s nobody to guard the border, watch, serve the plane ... But I don’t want to pay taxes on your neighbor’s gifted boy
          1. Rus2012
            Rus2012 13 July 2013 05: 26 New
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            Quote: man
            serve the plane ...

            just those will be ... from Mayevtsy! Go in cycles, comrade man ...
    2. the polar
      the polar 12 July 2013 17: 25 New
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      Quote: Povshnik
      Initially, it was planned to create 2 companies for the experiment, now 4, with going abroad to exchange "experience". There are no results yet, but already round tables. Apparently a lot of thieves turned out, in the 2-x companies do not fit.

      This "initiative" should be associated with the recently adopted law on restrictions on admission to the civil service, for those who did not serve in the army. Now the kids will be swaying in the "scientific companies", with traveling abroad and resting in Monte Carlo from the "scientific works"
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 12 July 2013 18: 05 New
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        Quote: Polar
        Now the kids will be swaying in the "scientific companies", with traveling abroad and resting in Monte Carlo from the "scientific works"

        Dear, reversals are possible in any business.
        But, this is not a reason - do nothing! Right?

        If the scientific company does not give the result after a year, then IMHO will be dissolved.
        Of course, as elsewhere there will be “blacks” and “majors”. And where are they not?
  3. Rus2012
    Rus2012 12 July 2013 09: 57 New
    +5
    Actually, they (specialists in the Moscow Region) grab on the fly how and in what areas to open topics: UAVs, cyber (hacking) ... history ... :)
    Probably, they closely monitor I-no and listen to our conversations :)))

    Imagine a picture - a major or a cap 30godkov (always wearing glasses) leads his brood of young nerds to the canteen or to divorce ... :)))
    A couple of hours drill and fizra a week - Toko do not forget!
    Taburetkin’s daytime sleep - Mona abolish ... :)
    Well, for the on-duty shift of hackers - coffee and chocolate are a must! For subtle brain work ... :)
  4. Alexander-Tomsk
    Alexander-Tomsk 12 July 2013 10: 14 New
    +3
    Nonsense, what scientific discoveries can be made during the year of service in these companies ...
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 12 July 2013 12: 21 New
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      Quote: Alexander-Tomsk
      what scientific discoveries can

      smart pepper-studentus or a graduate of the university - a laboratory assistant "on the grab" at the wizard corns pros, will help a lot ...
      A hacker from his youth - can also do a lot if he gets into a "familiar field" ...
      "Digitization" of the archives of the Second World War, also think - is not the case?
      A person who is fond of flying toys can already control UAVs at a professional level. Do you disagree?

      Then, a few geniuses can remain for research in military institutes and the former. n / a, do not you?

      IMHO, from slender geniuses - the sense is more at the computer than on the field in the mud ...
  5. Letnab
    Letnab 12 July 2013 10: 51 New
    +2
    That's it, nonsense !!! year of service, and scientific work ... for thieves again feeding trough!
  6. vladimirZ
    vladimirZ 12 July 2013 15: 25 New
    -1
    Ah, how much love is shown for us, even if the “egg is not worth it” business, but if this “business” is approved from above, then the bureaucrats and careerists will break their foreheads, but they will prove “what a brilliant idea has crossed the minds of the authorities”.
    Well, is it really incomprehensible, if only from everyday experience, that in 12 months not a single “yesterday’s student” - a graduate of any university, wherever he worked, even in a civilian super-scientific laboratory, will not make anything “new”. A graduate of a university needs 3-4 years, with hard work, under the guidance of older colleagues, in order to "enter the topic", the specifics of the laboratory, design bureau, and enterprise.
    Remember, at least "your young years" after high school and do not hang "noodles on the ears" of our people.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 12 July 2013 17: 34 New
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      Quote: vladimirZ
      Remember, at least "your young years" after high school and do not hang "noodles on the ears" of our people.

      I personally, a respected colleague-opponent, "drove into the subject" after the 1 month !!!
      This month was spent on orientation - where what is located and who is responsible for what in the department-institute and on admission to independent work. Those. on the organizational structure of the institution.
      Of course there are, and there were “young specialists” —that 3 and 5 years were not enough to work 100%
      If you say so, then you have such a "monastery" ...
      Try now with this approach, "drive" into a foreign country - they will not accept. And rightly so! By the end of studies, there should be achievements, and not only in the form of a "red diploma", but in publications, reports, patents, etc.

      PS: about 12months. services - will soon come to their senses and return at least 2goda!
      2 years and even a year is enough to understand "who is who" and what it costs. Is not it?
  7. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 12 July 2013 17: 38 New
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    In my opinion, nothing practical will come of it. It can turn out where there is a truly native environment, atmosphere, leadership in the subject.
    And in the army, it really turns out hammering nails with a microscope - the guys, “tadpoles” will be engaged in step-dressing, walk around outfits, dig the ground and learn other army wisdom.
    Putting them at headquarters — the entire office will be their job.
    Let them be better sent on a mandatory basis to specialized laboratories, centers, so that their non-ossified brains are loaded by profile!
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 12 July 2013 17: 58 New
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      Quote: Starover_Z
      And in the army, it really turns out hammering nails with a microscope - the guys, “tadpoles” will be engaged in step-dressing, walk around outfits, dig the ground and learn other army wisdom.

      For information, dear colleague, over the hill, by the way, the concept of SU "Polarisa" was issued by last-year students at the university ...
      Kada himself studied - from the 2go course he was involved in research. And not only me, a third of the membership. groups - talented guys - worked in laboratories, and on closed topics. Received including + 2 ... 3 steps. It so happened that after the university - at work, the salary was less than before ...