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Threats to Israeli aircraft over Iran

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The Iranian military leaders were greatly relieved when the “moderate” Hasan Rouhani was elected instead of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as a result of the recent elections. Rouhani is known as an excellent negotiator and as one with whom you can communicate normally. Ahmadinejad did not possess any of these qualities, and his constant and hysterical threats against Israel made the likelihood of a war with Israel all the more real. The situation was further aggravated by the growing threat of Iran’s creating a nuclear weapons. Ahmadinejad also liked to brag about how well prepared Iran is to set the heat for Israel when it decides to fight with Iran. At the same time, Iranian military leaders shivered from fear because they knew that the military power that Ahmadinejad boasts is largely an illusion. The constant stream of boastful press releases issued by the Iranian military had the goal of raising local morale, not to describe some real improvement in Iran’s military capabilities. The Israelis were aware of this, however, like Ahmadinejad himself, but the numerous threats to Israel had already caused Israeli counter-threats. The problem was that Israel had much greater potential to attack Iran than to defend Iran.

Israel, unlike Iran, has huge reserves of fuel, ammunition and other supplies needed for warfare (within 30 days). Despite the fact that Iran produces a lot of oil, it does not have oil refineries capable of producing aviation fuel in sufficient quantities. Iran has a small number of smart bombs and missiles, and this is not at all comparable to what Israel has at its disposal.

Israel can launch more than 500 aircraft (mainly F-15 and F-16) against Iran per day (several flights a day). This is in addition to more than double the number of weapons with a smaller radius of action. Israel has more than 25 000 smart bombs and missiles (not counting smaller missiles such as Hellfire). For several days, the Israeli air force is able to destroy the little that Iran has as its main weapon systems (armored vehicles, airplanes, warships, weapons, and research and production facilities). Worse, early statements about Iranian military power will not only be exposed as false, but the real military power will be significantly reduced by the Israelis. Of course, Iranian military leaders do not want this to happen, although some authorities of the religious dictatorship ruling Iran saw a positive point in this development. In their opinion, the Israeli attack could unite all Iranians against the generally unloved government.

The Iranian problem is that three decades of sanctions made it impossible to replace outdated and worn-out equipment or even maintain old systems in good condition. Thus, the best defense system against Israeli attacks (air defense systems and fighter aircraft) is largely absent. Iran has an ancient and probably ineffective system against Israeli means of suppressing air defense.

Thus, for example, Iran faces growing problems of maintaining the X-NUMX era of the F-5 in the flying state. Those few aircraft that still have a high accident rate and low combat readiness due to maintenance problems (including the lack of spare parts). Parts for American aircraft still used by Iran are very difficult to find. Iran partly solves this problem. However, the Iranian air force is pretty much window-dressing. They have a lot of airplanes, which for the most part are part of the Air Force only nominally and not capable due to their age and lack of spare parts. Those who are able to fly are likely to become good targets for Israeli fighters.


The Iranian Air Force is still trying to recover from the effects of the Islamic revolution of 1979 year (which led to an embargo on the supply of spare parts and new aircraft). Despite this, many Iranian military aircraft remain flying, but only for short periods of time. The main reason for this is the extensive smuggling of spare parts. Two of their aircraft, the American F-4D and F-5E Tiger, are still widely used around the world. Some people have spare parts for these aircraft, and Iran can buy them. Iran still has about 40 of such aircraft at its disposal, less than half of them are combat ready.

Another thing with the most expensive military aircraft of Iran, the US F-14 Tomcat. Iran was the only export customer for this aircraft. Some F-14s were able to fly, despite rumors of sabotage by American AIM-54 Phoenix missile technicians when they left Iran. To demonstrate this, Iran made a flyby of 25 and F-14 over Tehran in 1985. Today, Iran has about 20 and F-14, less than half of them are combat-ready.

Iran is trying to buy new foreign aircraft. In the 1990s, with the end of the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union, they sought to buy them from Russia. Despite low prices, a combination of Western pressure (not selling aircraft) and Iranian financial problems, not many aircraft were received. One unforeseen opportunity was the Gulf War in 1991. Many Iraqi planes (most of them Soviet-made) fled to Iran to avoid an American strike. The Iranians never returned them. So Iran was with the 60 th MiG-29. There were also 18 Su-24, reinforced by the purchase of additional in Russia. Spare parts can also be purchased on the black market, but the MiG-29 is extremely difficult to maintain by plane, even with all the necessary spare parts.



Currently, Iran has about two hundred fighters and fighter-bombers, but only half of them can be put into battle, and usually only one flight per day. The chronic shortage of spare parts limits the amount of time that aircraft can spend in the air. This means that pilots do not have enough flying skills. Poor maintenance and untrained pilots lead to more aviation accidents.

Iran is also poorly prepared when it comes to ground defense. Iran has managed to keep in operation a number of Hawk's American anti-aircraft missile systems, purchased in the 1970s. However, today they are not capable of anything, and the Israelis know all about these Hawk. Iran has limited access to the procurement of new systems in Russia and China and, in general, is poorly prepared to repel the Israeli attack.
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  1. Sars
    Sars 12 July 2013 07: 48
    22
    The article is another Jewish propaganda.
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 12 July 2013 08: 13
      24
      The author wrote an article in a somewhat exaggerated form, but it will be even more difficult to prove the opposite. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Iran is naturally not so weak, but of course it will not withstand the Israeli-American strike (the Americans will support the Israelis directly or in a veiled form, but they will necessarily support ) .The Iranian Air Force is even less combat-ready than in the 80s, given the sanctions, the considerable age of aircraft, problems with spare parts, etc. More or less, air defense forces can still resist, but no more, given the high level of Israeli and American EW forces, and accordingly the poor equipment of Iran. It is unlikely that the ground forces will come into play. The allies will try to crush the military and economic infrastructure with the first blow. Any collision does not bode well for Iran. There is only hope for the negotiation focus of the new president. But one must take into account that Ayatollah Khamenei does not have real power in him.
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 12 July 2013 11: 15
        +2
        Quote: xetai9977
        The author wrote an article in somewhat exaggerated form,

        The author wrote approximately as described ...
        The constant stream of boastful press releases issued by Iranian

        Can be changed to
        Israeli constant boastful stream of press releases

        and so agree with you
        Quote: xetai9977
        The truth is somewhere in between
        1. Professor
          12 July 2013 12: 51
          -3
          Quote: Scoun
          Israeli constant boastful stream of press releases

          Where are these Israeli press releases? Did you see them? This article is American.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 12 July 2013 12: 55
            +7
            Quote: Professor
            This article is American.

            Professor, so chesh are Africans your partners or yak?
            1. Professor
              12 July 2013 13: 04
              +3
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Professor, so chesh are Africans your partners or yak?

              Americans and your president calls partners. Have you forgotten? wink
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 12 July 2013 13: 16
                0
                Quote: Professor
                Americans and your president calls partners. Have you forgotten?

                Partners !!! and not allies wink Do you know whether there are different partners, there are good ones, but there are .... mmmmmm, how are your allies laughing
                1. Professor
                  12 July 2013 13: 38
                  +5
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Partners !!! and not allies. And do you know whether there are different partners, there are good ones, but there are .... mmmmmm, how are your allies

                  You have already decided whether they are "partners" for us, then "allies". wink
                  These allies never sent a single soldier to fight for Israel and vice versa.
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 12 July 2013 13: 55
                    +4
                    Quote: Professor

                    You have already decided, then they are "partners" for us, then "allies"

                    They are partners for us and we have recently put them in the pose of doggy, and for you are allies. Although a professor with such allies you and the enemy of the Islamists do not need wassat
                    Quote: Professor
                    These allies never sent a single soldier to fight for Israel and vice versa.

                    They give you money and weapons, is that not enough for you + political support. + sponsorship of terrorists in Syria. great allies laughing
                2. neri73-r
                  neri73-r 12 July 2013 13: 40
                  0
                  Partners !!! and not allies. And do you know whether there are different partners, there are good ones, but there are .... mmmmmm, how are your allies


                  And also partners eeeeeeee ... when one is on top, and the other (another) is below, or one is bent and the other is behind, well and so on ...! laughing
            2. Orchestrarant
              Orchestrarant 13 July 2013 10: 03
              0
              Maybe the owners? wink
              1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                SASCHAmIXEEW 16 July 2013 18: 09
                -1
                Their masters are Judasionist money tops in the person of the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Morgan, Bush and other worshipers idol Mamon !!! That's who you need to overthrow !!!
          2. Scoun
            Scoun 12 July 2013 14: 06
            +3
            Quote: Professor
            Where are these Israeli press releases?

            Professor, don’t worry you like that .. these press releases are you on the forum and you post today's article a translation than an example? you posted it here on the forum
            In addition, one F-16 aircraft is capable of 16 bombs. Spice-250 and, in addition to the ability to simultaneously destroy several targets, it is able to hinder the operation of the enemy radar, simultaneously dropping a large number of bombs. It will be very difficult for S-300 air defense systems and the like to deal with these capabilities. "

            http://topwar.ru/29831-izrailskaya-bomba-sposobnaya-spravitsya-s-300.html#commen
            t-id-1277084
            Well, I can search about the best drones, tanks, about the "dome" about about about ...
            Israel will be the first foreign country to adopt the fifth-generation F-35 multirole fighter ...

            You are not "a burden" to praise your weapons, so why shouldn't the Iranians praise theirs? just an American article who wrote not prompt?
            from comments on the article itself))))
            I think the daft person who wrote this article is getting his pay check from the Jews or his got his head up his ass ..

            According to the article itself, it is clear that a biased person wrote .. he could not use such expressions as
            A constant stream of boastful press releases
            1. Professor
              12 July 2013 14: 51
              -4
              Quote: Scoun
              In addition, one F-16 aircraft is capable of 16 Spice-250 bombs.

              Offset good

              Quote: Scoun
              Well, I can search about the best drones, tanks, about the "dome" about about about ...

              Well it's useless. You won't find the "best" ones.

              Quote: Scoun
              I think the daft person who wrote this article is getting his pay check from the Jews or his got his head up his ass ..

              I can post a ton of such comments to you. In any English-language article, there are not such comments, Muslims are being tightened.

              Quote: Scoun
              A constant stream of boastful press releases

              Here he is right, an optoelectronic system drawn with Photoshop, an airplane made of cardboard, a helicopter made of "tin", painted rocket launches, a substituted monkey in space, etc. But the main thing is that all this is presented as the great achievements of the Islamic revolution.

              PS
              F-35, then what? Ordinary update of the American fleet. F-16s are being written off, aren’t they going to replace them with instant? wink
              1. Beck
                Beck 12 July 2013 20: 12
                +5
                And why the author of the article believes that Rouhani may conduct a different policy. And Ahmadinejad could not conduct any other policy. Ahmanidzhad expressed, and Rouhani will only express what the Ayatollahs will say to them. Iranian presidents are the mouthpieces of orthodox religious understanding of the world by medieval ayatollahs.
                1. Essenger
                  Essenger 12 July 2013 22: 47
                  +4
                  Quote: Beck
                  Ahmanidzhad expressed, and Rouhani will only express what the Ayatollahs will say to them.


                  YOU are mistaken, Ahmadinejad has recently been in a lot of conflict with Khamenei. Even the latter did not let Mashai (Ahmadinejad’s protege) to the elections. And Rouhani is closer to Rafsanjani than to Khamenei.
                  1. Beck
                    Beck 12 July 2013 23: 09
                    +6
                    Quote: Essenger
                    You're wrong,


                    And why am I mistaken. This is a candidate that contradicts something in detail. But all candidates were admitted to the elections only after consideration of their candidatures by a special committee of the Guardians of Islam. That is, all obedient ones who were ready to fulfill the will of the ayatollah passed. Well, which of them will win does not matter for the ayatollah.
                    1. aksakal
                      aksakal 13 July 2013 01: 20
                      +5
                      Quote: Beck
                      But all candidates were admitted to the elections only after consideration of their candidatures by a special committee of the Guardians of Islam. That is, all obedient ready to fulfill the will of the ayatollah passed. Well, which of them will win does not matter for the ayatollah.

                      - Beck, I rephrase what you said: But all candidates were admitted to the elections only after consideration of their candidatures by a special committee - the most influential representatives of the elite. That is, all obedient ready to fulfill the will of this very elite have passed. Well, and which of them will win, for these elitists it doesn’t matter anymore... On my own I would add - but it matters for the representatives of the plebs (politically correct - the electorate), they have the feeling that they were given a choice, and they made this choice. Guess which country we're talking about? And yet - why do you still have a note of condemnation in relation to Iran for such nuances, but in relation to the country about which I asked you a riddle, there is no such condemnation even close? Moreover, you are still an ardent supporter of the ideas of that country. Are you a citizen of that country? Or are you still (which I hope) are you my compatriot? Why do you condemn one country for the fact that in another country exactly the same order has existed for a couple of centuries? Because they are of a bright race and therefore they can, but black-assed Iranians cannot? I will disappoint you - look at your butt (use a mirror). And draw your conclusions. There is no difference in the regimes of the country that Iran is, but only Iran does not bomb its neighbors and has not destroyed a single country, does not climb up to us and does not force our girls to wear a burqa, although the Iranians force their girls. They just want to live according to their own laws, let them live, but you have notes of condemnation here - "the ayatollahs decide everything for them!" But with regard to Israel, they have a belligerent rhetoric precisely because Israel is a very aggressive country, as we have seen more than once, and the last time quite recently. Israel's only rhetoric seems to be peace-loving, in fact - between the lines it reads "if only to exterminate the Arabs with impunity and occupy all this territory where our ancestors lived like", more than once slipped among the local Jews, and all this is confirmed by real actions. Beck, look in the mirror again, you will never be among them! In the best case, they will wash the toilets, and it will be a great honor for you. What am I with the country that I will always be at knives with Israel, let them not climb, we will live fine without them, we have everything for this. And they will climb (and they will climb!) - well, I will be such that that Syrian cannibal will seem to them a harmless lamb!
                      1. faraon
                        faraon 13 July 2013 01: 38
                        +1
                        Dear Judging by your previous comments, I see that YOU are a person worshiping the Christian religion. So read in the New Testament where it says about the Arab people of Palestine. And as for washing sort, then here is what anyone likes. Want to wash your right, do not want to study, get education and the flag is in your hands. But usually people like you come to Israel start kissing the holy land, put on a black lapserdak, grow paisies. And they start talking when they go to a Russian store, they give free rein to the gentiles, they opened pig shops
                      2. Xnumx kopeek
                        Xnumx kopeek 13 July 2013 04: 55
                        +1
                        the Gospel does not say anything about "Palestinian Arabs" - Tee is clearly overheated today. Rely on the Talmud then .- / goyi, akumi, etc. your Nazi clinical crap /
                    2. Revolver
                      Revolver 13 July 2013 04: 14
                      0
                      Quote: aksakal
                      I’m with the country that I’ll always be on knives with Israel, let them not climb, we’ll live perfectly without them, we have everything for this. And they will climb (but they will climb!) - well, I will be such that that Syrian eater will seem to them a harmless lamb!

                      As I understand it, your "here" refers to Kazakhstan, judging by the flag and pseudonym? So I dare to assure you that neither the United States nor Israel will come to you. If only simply because you (KZ) gave up to neither one nor the other. Most of the people in America know that there are such Kazakhs in the world solely thanks to the film "Borat", and they imagine Kazakhs about it. And the same is true in Europe, Africa, Latin America, and the part of Asia that does not border KZ, such as India. So you can throw thunder and lightning at this Jew Sasha Cohen, but it was he who put you on the world map (not physically, of course, but in the brain). Is this the reason for your dislike of Jews? Or is the Islamic duty orders to jihad, if not with dagger and not in the martyr’s belt, even on the Internet?
                      And you here seem to have decided to pick up the advantages of rolling a barrel to Israel and the Professor personally? Probably type, Israel and Jews are not very much loved here. But isn't it disgusting? Indeed, in fact, those who do not like Jews here will call you "chypka" at a personal meeting, say, in Moscow, and even with an epithet that means "intimately used" in the normative vocabulary. Because, apart from the Jews, they almost certainly do not like all non-Russians. Especially in a conflict situation such as a lack of tables in a cafe.
                    3. aksakal
                      aksakal 14 July 2013 01: 42
                      -1
                      .
                      Quote: Nagan
                      After all, in fact, the same people who do not like Jews here will call you at a personal meeting, say in Moscow,

                      - Dear, I'm not talking about everyday situations in which anything happens. Here the site is political, and the situation is political. I ran into the Professor very harshly for the DPRK, and not only for the Professor, for the DPRK I also ran into those with whom I am a like-minded person on other issues. Here I speak for Iran, I don't give a damn about these advantages. And I will speak for Venezuela and Cuba. Someone will sarcastically say - "Oh, what a set of countries!" And from that moment on, I will just harshly run over, precisely because the reason for his malice is LIBERAL intolerance, the refusal to other countries the right to live as they want! My hit on the professor behind the DPRK was precisely (okay, in the form of a dispute over dubious photos of hungry children) for denying the North Koreans the right to live according to their Juche ideas and an attempt to justify the possible US aggression against the DPRK at that time, as if because of hungry children ... What does the United States and the professor personally care about the hungry children of the DPRK? My attack on my compatriot is also essentially for denying Iran the right to live according to its own laws from the Ayatollahs. As you can see, I am a democrat. And those who call themselves "democrats", forcibly imposing this very democracy or even organizing harassment in the media, are in fact dictators. And my posts are essentially for democracy at the state level. As you can see, I am a democrat. And those who call themselves "democrats" by force imposing this very democracy or even organizing harassment in the media are in fact dictators. And my posts are essentially for democracy at the state level
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                2. SASCHAmIXEEW
                  SASCHAmIXEEW 16 July 2013 18: 30
                  0
                  aksakal. You are right about everything !! How some people like to poke their nose into other people's affairs! Without thinking about the consequences ...
            2. superbober71
              superbober71 13 July 2013 01: 31
              -1
              All right, Ahmadinejad is a classic national socialist and moved his policy in this vein to the detriment of stupid clericals ... But as they say it is not yet evening and the existing economic problems, together with general corruption in clerical circles, I think will make Iran return to the right path.
        2. Airman
          Airman 12 July 2013 23: 58
          0
          Quote: Professor


          Professor, I respect YOU for critical analysis of all articles, but today you are wrong.
          1. Professor
            13 July 2013 08: 40
            +2
            Quote: Povshnik
            Professor, I respect YOU for critical analysis of all articles, but today you are wrong.

            I respect your opinion and we do not always have to agree. I continue to consider the Iranian Air Force and Air Defense primitive. hi
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 16 July 2013 18: 39
              -1
              The best thing is "tried and convinced" and so, the paper will endure everything ....
  • Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 12 July 2013 17: 52
    -2
    Quote: xetai9977
    For any clash, Iran does not bode well

    I’m worried about the Bushehr nuclear power plant. Destruction or deliberate damage can greatly complicate life in the region. Although I do not think that Israel will touch it now
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 13 July 2013 04: 25
      +3
      Quote: Pilat2009
      I'm worried about the Bushehr nuclear power plant.

      Two Chukchi went to the district center for political information (who did not find it, there was such a thing under the Soviet regime, participation in it was voluntary-compulsory), they return to the camp.
      - You know, however, Honduras bothers me very much ...
      - And you do not scratch him.

      wassat
  • Beck
    Beck 13 July 2013 16: 27
    +3
    Yeah. Wow. It happened.

    I CONGRATULATE all adequate FORUMAN and the ADMINISTRATION of the site. In my memory, this is the first time, maybe not the first time, because I don’t go to all pages.

    Congratulations on the fact that all komenty of an inadequate, hamovitny hooter - 20 kopecks, are deleted. Previously, such pages as he and their unceremonious, boorish, insulting comments were full of pages.

    Everything flows, everything changes.
  • Sirocco
    Sirocco 14 July 2013 15: 55
    -1
    Rauf, you know, few of us have thought about such facts of victorious wars, the USA and haliui, such as the fact that they fought with Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya, their modern weapons (Airplanes) against mid-air defense systems, or near the end of the last century of production . And such a war is not an offset for them (USA EU Israel) It's like taking a candy from a child. That's when they encounter modern air defense systems of Iran, Syria, (Whether these countries have them or not, this is a mystery or maybe a surprise) Then we’ll talk about the superiority of the Israeli and American falcons. By the way, in Israel there are not so many pilots, and how many pilots is Israel ready to lose?
  • Hunghuz
    Hunghuz 13 July 2013 18: 04
    -1
    hi Well, are you so clinging to God's chosen Palestinians ......... ??? the Jews have nothing to do with it)))
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 16 July 2013 18: 42
      -1
      1000 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  • papss
    papss 12 July 2013 07: 48
    +5
    "Woe to the country that cannot defend itself against an air strike." Once said, Zhukov G.K. For Iran, this danger is now greater than ever ...
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 12 July 2013 08: 09
    15
    *** Iran has limited access to procurement of new systems in Russia and China and is generally poorly prepared to repel the Israeli attack. *** -So what??))))))))))
    Such a shock that the professor reassures himself)))))))))))
    what to write this article about, I'd rather express my opinion with these words in the comments !!
    1. mogus
      mogus 12 July 2013 10: 03
      +3
      hi
      We read news with popcorn:
      "In Jerusalem, ultra-Orthodox once again attacked a soldier of the IDF"
      On Shmuel HaNavi Street in Jerusalem, an ultra-Orthodox crowd attacked a car carrying an IDF soldier. According to the radio station "Reshet Bet", the soldier who was attacked is also a member of the religious community. Hooligans blocked the road to the car and threw stones at it. They also shouted insults and curses at the serviceman. The soldier was forced to get out of the car and find shelter in one of the buildings before the police arrived. Reshet Bet reports: after the serviceman was evacuated from the dangerous area, he filed a complaint with the police. This is the second such attack on IDF servicemen in Jerusalem in the last three
      of the day. July 9th ultra-Orthodox crowd
      youth almost lynched a serviceman
      in the Mea Shearim quarter. Three attackers are in custody awaiting trial.


      http://www.newsru.co.il/israel/12jul2013/des302.html
      "Emergency at the IDF exercises: a paratrooper nearly crashed due to a malfunctioning parachute"
      On Wednesday, July 10, at the Palmachim military training ground near Rishon Le-Zion, a joint exercise was held by the reconnaissance battalion of the airborne brigade, the Maglan special unit and the Yahalom special forces of engineering troops. During airborne exercises, on
      the parents of the servicemen were invited, an emergency occurred: one of the soldiers did not open the main parachute. According to the newspaper "Maariv", the paratrooper's reserve parachute did not work immediately either. Fortunately, in the end, the fighter managed to cope with it and land safely. A special commission has been created to investigate the causes of the emergency.

      And F16 the other day fell ...
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      2. igor67
        igor67 12 July 2013 15: 10
        +2
        . I found this video, at first my brother pulls a small hand in an army jeep, then his father
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 12 July 2013 15: 56
          +2
          Judging by the video, no matter what the unfamiliar soldier was leading and less scared, they led their own .. but nevertheless small in hysteria.
          Igor, but why did they take the small one away?
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 12 July 2013 16: 54
            +6
            Quote: Scoun
            Igor, but why did they take the small one away?

            I didn’t get it either !!
            1. datur
              datur 12 July 2013 20: 28
              +3
              [quote = Yarbay] [quote = Scoun] Igor, but why did they take the small things away? [/ quote]
              I didn't understand that either !! --- apparently in the opinion of the Jewish soldiers he is a noble terrorist "!!!
            2. Pimply
              Pimply 12 July 2013 23: 20
              +1
              Explained below
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 12 July 2013 23: 17
            +1
            Threw stones at passing cars. They drove to their parents, talked, and then with his father handed over to the Palestinian police.

            If someone thinks that the stone thrown by the child into the car is garbage, it can say this to the recently deceased 30-year-old Israeli and his nine-month-old son. Or a seriously injured woman.
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 12 July 2013 16: 52
          +5
          Quote: igor67
          found this video, first a brother pulls a small hand in an army jeep, then his father

          Hi Igor!
          Well, what kind of bestiality ??
          Why scare a child ??
          I do not understand!!
          1. igor67
            igor67 12 July 2013 21: 58
            0
            Quote: Yarbay
            Quote: igor67
            found this video, first a brother pulls a small hand in an army jeep, then his father

            Hi Igor!
            Well, what kind of bestiality ??
            Why scare a child ??
            I do not understand!!

            Apparently, they were definitely scared so that they wouldn’t be harmful for the future, but I think more than my father, and most likely my father will put in a belt, according to the physiognomy of his father at the end it was visible. Actually, there are a lot of videos where they substitute their little boys for filming, there is a famous video where a girl of about 10 yells hysterically at a soldier, well, what can she understand at 10 years old, for that, press shots
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 12 July 2013 23: 20
            +1
            I gave a comment above. The kid was throwing stones at cars, apparently following the example of his older comrades. This is by no means a safe matter, no matter how a game it may seem - from such "stones" there are several dead (including a nine-month-old child) and seriously injured: the drivers were unexpectedly involved in an accident or were injured by glass fragments. My friend almost lost her eye.
            1. Xnumx kopeek
              Xnumx kopeek 12 July 2013 23: 32
              -7
              Quote: Pimply
              I gave a comment a little higher. The kid threw stones at cars, apparently, following the example of senior companions with glass shards. My acquaintance almost lost her eye.
              -
              why does your friend need an extra eye?
              1. Beck
                Beck 12 July 2013 23: 53
                +9
                Quote: 20 kopeek
                why does your friend need an extra eye?


                There is such an expression - "Nothing is simpler and nothing is so appreciated as Politeness."

                And there is a saying - "Hamlo, which is threshing floor, dries up, but it stinks."
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              2. Pimply
                Pimply 13 July 2013 00: 30
                +4
                Why do you need extra fingers? Indeed, judging by what you have written, they are clearly superfluous.
        3. mogus
          mogus 12 July 2013 18: 54
          0
          I brought the posts above to what ... "Professor", good butting, it is clear that Iran is trying to show violent activity. But showing and having the opportunity is still different. For the next N years, they will raise Syria, it will not be up to you (I hope that after that everything will subside - they will sign peace treaties). In Syria, a lot of steam came out, and how much more will come out ...
          You are all trying to boast of your new Homeland - you have the right, only to the overwhelming majority of the people - it doesn’t matter (yes, sometimes some people come out, but these are the ones who cannot find an understanding person in real life, so they are splashing everything on the net ...). By mass, you support Assad (not an angel of course), but who will be different (it’s unlikely that you will be cannibals next door).
          You have your own, everyday problems, your own ...
        4. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 12 July 2013 19: 47
          0
          [quote = igor67]. I found this video, first the brother pulls the small by the arm into an army jeep, then his father [/ quot

          And what did you mean by that? Do you like this scene? Well then, you’re a sick man, which was to be proved. This whole worthless world is not worth a single tear of a child!
          The article is another Israeli or American nonsense. You try popping into Iran, I think this will be the last war for the United States and for Israel!
          1. igor67
            igor67 12 July 2013 22: 01
            +4
            [quote = Ruslan why are you poking at me? There is no need for a child’s tears, ask the parents of this child for the sake of filming the child is substituted, and more than one soldier did not even touch the child, they ask who the father of the child is.
            1. Shumka
              Shumka 12 July 2013 23: 21
              +3
              Igor, we have Russians / Russians ,, .. They say so. A soldier will not offend a child. Monument in Treptow Park a reminder to everyone, I will die, but I will save even the enemy of the child. I’m not the most courageous .... but something like this ... And something like that, I begin to believe the Palestinians that Israel bombed children,
              1. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 12 July 2013 23: 59
                0
                This shit, that even though the hair from the head fell?
                As for "not offending", in Afghan auls and Chechen villages not only militants were killed in air strikes.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 13 July 2013 00: 44
                  +4
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  This shit, that even though the hair from the head fell?

                  I do not know shit is not shit, but it contradicts my life principles !!!
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 13 July 2013 00: 49
                    0
                    And if it was an Armenian boy, Alibek? ;)
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 13 July 2013 00: 54
                      +6
                      Quote: Pimply
                      And if it was an Armenian boy, Alibek? ;)

                      I swear by the Almighty I would say the same thing !!
                      I love children very much and cannot see when they cry !! I carried frostbitten children in my arms!
                      Maybe I'm a bad soldier!
                      1. Pimply
                        Pimply 13 July 2013 01: 15
                        -1
                        Alibek, how old is a child? How many? And what exactly do you propose to do in this case?
                      2. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 13 July 2013 01: 24
                        +3
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Alibek, how old is a child? How many? And what exactly do you propose to do in this case?

                        I don’t know, it’s probably different for everyone, but looking at his son, he was a child and this year he’s still a child who doesn’t think much!
                        In this case, you probably should have talked with your parents! I think you have such laws too !!
                        I knew a child who accidentally killed his sister, is there a more serious crime, but they didn’t do anything to him, because he didn’t understand what he was doing! Maybe he will grow up to understand and suffer !! I knew a second-grader who saved his sister, but he was hit by the current to death !!
                        What are you ?? how can this be ???
                      3. Pimply
                        Pimply 13 July 2013 01: 41
                        -1
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        What are you ?? how can this be ???

                        How so? Accept that a child can be a killer?
                      4. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 13 July 2013 01: 47
                        +2
                        Quote: Pimply
                        How so? Accept that a child can be a killer?

                        So, all over the world they understand it! An 8-year-old child playing with a gun fired a bullet that killed his sister!
                        In your opinion it was necessary to plant it ???????
                      5. Pimply
                        Pimply 13 July 2013 01: 55
                        +1
                        No. And 10-year-old girls, who intentionally strangled a classmate in Kazakhstan because of a doll and mocked her before this for six months, obviously should be under special supervision, and their parents should not only have preventive conversations.
                      6. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 13 July 2013 02: 01
                        +3
                        Quote: Pimply
                        And 10-year-old girls who intentionally strangled a classmate in Kazakhstan because of a doll

                        This is different!
                        at 10 years old, a child understands a lot and you are right, this child should be under the supervision of a psychologist, not in prison, and even it cannot be carried out automatically for * conversation * !!! again, you do not need to compare a 5 year old child even with a 10 year old !! Or You and babies under the machine lead to * conversations * ??
                        You know, Zhenya doesn’t need to whitewash and try to shield the soldier because he is your native !!
                        You yourself understand that here the soldiers, to put it mildly, went too far !!
                      7. Pimply
                        Pimply 13 July 2013 02: 09
                        -1
                        Alibek, this is not another. It is the same.

                        Another situation - a five-year-old child makes nuts off the rail. Or, for example, pulls out and rolls out sewer manholes. Your actions?
                      8. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 13 July 2013 02: 31
                        +5
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Alibek, this is not another. It is the same.

                        Another situation - a five-year-old child makes nuts off the rail.

                        Eugene, I can’t bring to you that a 5-year-old child does not understand what he’s doing and you don’t explain to him at the muzzle of a submachine gun scaring him that he is not doing it right !!!!!I hope it reaches you this time!
                        And stop stopping comparing a 5-year-old child with 10 and 13 year old children !!
                      9. Pimply
                        Pimply 13 July 2013 02: 43
                        0
                        A five year old child repeats after elders. The fact that he does not fully realize - but does not understand how you express yourself, does not mean that he can be allowed everything, right? So he will throw a grenade behind the elders, for example.

                        Once again - at what age do you propose to consider the actions of the child conscious? 6, 7, 8 years?
                  2. Shumka
                    Shumka 13 July 2013 16: 30
                    +1
                    Alibek, and you ask them - what if it is a Jewish child?
                    they will not tell you what adults and the state are responsible for the children.
                    More and more agree with David Duke.
                  3. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 13 July 2013 17: 01
                    +2
                    Quote: Shumka
                    Alibek, and you ask them - what if it is a Jewish child?
                    they will not tell you what adults and the state are responsible for the children.

                    I asked yesterday, I didn’t get an answer !!
                    I will never agree with Duke !!
                    I respect the Jewish people and respect sincerely, like all nations!
                    Many friends of the Jews !!
  • Pimply
    Pimply 13 July 2013 00: 35
    +4
    Personally, he grabbed a 13-year-old child by the ear when his school somehow went into stone-throwing. The kid was detained, then released. Have you ever stood under a shaft of stones and seen its consequences?

    The first terrorist I detained who was about to explode on a bus was 16 or 17 years old. Child.

    When their children or strangers are asked, they usually choose their own.

    The next question is whether they try to make sure that other people's children do not suffer. Try hard. But this is not always possible.

    Israel was killing Palestinian children. Like women, old people, teenagers. You won’t believe that people die in war. Did Israel do everything to prevent these people from dying? Yes, I did. Did Israel at the same time put the life of its citizens as the highest priority? Yes, I did.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 13 July 2013 01: 05
      0
      Quote: Pimply
      Personally grabbed a child of 13 years by the ear,

      Zhenya is 13 years old and 5 years it is not the same !!!
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 13 July 2013 01: 15
        +1
        So no one caught this maltz by the ear. They found a father, handed over a father with the son of the Palestinian police. Or do you suggest leaving his stones toss?
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 13 July 2013 01: 25
          +4
          Quote: Pimply
          Or do you suggest leaving his stones toss?

          Mlyn, he is a child of ZHENIA !!!!!!!
          Why scare ??
          MILLION 5 YEARS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 13 July 2013 01: 19
        0
        So therefore, they grabbed him by the ear, and took him home to the folder. Just like the police would do with a street bully of his age. Or do you think he would roar less?
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 13 July 2013 01: 31
          0
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          So therefore, they grabbed him by the ear, and took him home to the folder.

          I didn’t see that he was being taken to a folder, sort of with a folder they drove somewhere !!!!!
          I respect and love your people sincerely, but in this case I believe that those soldiers acted incorrectly, even criminally !!
          It's my opinion!!
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 13 July 2013 01: 43
            0
            How wrong? They found a father, drove with his father, had a conversation, and handed over to the Palestinian police. Explain what is crime, plz
          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay 13 July 2013 01: 48
            +3
            Quote: Pimply
            How wrong? They found a father, drove with his father, had a conversation, and handed over to the Palestinian police.

            What does he understand to take him to a conversation !! ???
            Are you sick on your head or something ??????
          3. Pimply
            Pimply 13 July 2013 02: 00
            0
            He understands that because of him, throwing stones, his father was taken to a conversation. Or do you suggest leaving him throwing stones?

            According to Palestinian human rights activists, Israeli soldiers brought the boy to the house of the Masavad family, where his mother was at that time. They informed the woman that they intend to surrender the child to the Palestinian security forces. However, the boy’s mother refused to talk to them until her husband arrived. When the father of the child returned from work, an IDF officer showed him a stone that his son had thrown into the settler’s car. After this, the father and his son were taken to a military base, where they spent about half an hour. After that, they were again brought to Hebron and handed over to Palestinian police.
          4. Yarbay
            Yarbay 13 July 2013 02: 10
            +3
            Quote: Pimply
            He understands that because of him, throwing stones, his father was taken to a conversation. Or do you suggest leaving him throwing stones?

            I say that you are not all right with your head, if you think so !!!
            I am very sorry for you!
            It’s a crime and it’s also criminalizing !!
            In my opinion, I already said what to do, do not exaggerate!
            I swear I did not expect from you!
            Quote: Pimply
            He understands that because of him, throwing stones, his father was taken to a conversation. Or do you suggest leaving him throwing stones?

            According to Palestinian human rights activists, Israeli soldiers brought the boy to the house of the Masavad family, where his mother was at that time. They informed the woman that they intend to surrender the child to the Palestinian security forces. However, the boy’s mother refused to talk to them until her husband arrived. When the father of the child returned from work, an IDF officer showed him a stone that his son had thrown into the settler’s car. After this, the father and his son were taken to a military base, where they spent about half an hour. After that, they were again brought to Hebron and handed over to Palestinian police.

            And before that they brought the child to tears !!
            I repeat it was enough to pick up the father for a conversation !!
            This crime is what your soldiers did !!
            And do not pretend that nothing happened and that this is normal !!
          5. Pimply
            Pimply 13 July 2013 02: 17
            -1
            Alibek, you’ll rubbish, I'm sorry. Emotional, with a bunch of exclamation points bullshit. The child committed an act dangerous to the lives of other people. He was taken to his parents, after which they recorded the situation first in the Israeli security agencies, then in the Palestinian ones.

            Once again - what is the crime. Decrypt, and give me, please, your algorithm of action in such a situation. Besides screaming, this is a crime.
          6. Yarbay
            Yarbay 13 July 2013 02: 24
            +4
            Quote: Pimply
            Emotional, with a bunch of exclamation points bullshit.

            Do not be foolish to say Zhenya, here everyone knows the history of my exclamation marks, that is why I often write with exclamation marks !!
            And this is what I say not nonsense, but what you say is not just nonsense but also an excuse for a crime !!
            Yes, I am now speaking emotionally, because I can’t stand fascism and when they offend the weak !!
            Quote: Pimply
            Once again - what is the crime. Decrypt, and give me, please, your algorithm of action in such a situation.
            No need to lie, he was not taken to his parents, but was taken away with his father!!
            I decoded above, but you pretend that you do not understand!
            I repeat once again for you, it was impossible to scare a child and take him somewhere at gunpoint!
            The actions of your soldiers are criminal!
            It was enough to take my father to talk !!
            If you do not understand this, then alas, I see in you the same criminal !!
          7. Pimply
            Pimply 13 July 2013 02: 37
            -1
            Alibek, no songs, okay. First of all, you didn’t answer me what should be done in such a situation.

            He was taken to his parents, so he was taken with his father to fix the incident, then he was taken to a Palestinian police station.

            Once again - specifically, what is the crime of such actions, and your algorithm of actions, plz.

            For example. A woman in her forties and her three little daughters was injured in a car collision with a truck on Highway 5 near Ariel. The youngest of the girls, a two-year-old baby, was taken to the Ichilov hospital in critical condition, the rest received moderate injuries.
            According to the truck driver, the cause of the car accident was the Palestinian stone throwers. Around 18:30 a stone hit the truck, the driver stopped on the side of the road and went out to see what happened. The car following him, in which a resident of the settlement of Yakir with three daughters was traveling, crashed at full speed into a standing truck from behind.

            By the way, get acquainted - 25-year-old Asher Palmer and his one-year-old son. Killed by a stone throw. Tell them something about fascism.
          8. Yarbay
            Yarbay 13 July 2013 07: 23
            +5
            Quote: Pimply

            By the way, get acquainted - 25-year-old Asher Palmer and his one-year-old son. Killed by a stone throw.

            They died not as a result of a stone throw, but the mistakes of one of the drivers !!
            And I’ll tell them the same thing !!
            So you asked me with help saying that if there was a * Armenian child * ??
            Now I understand why you asked like that !!
            There seems to be a difference for you !!
            That is, if there was a Jewish boy, it would hurt you!
            And so the Arab children can kill him, interrogate him blindfolded !!
            And we are talking about a specific case!
            I can show you hundreds of pictures of children killed by your soldiers, why didn’t you judge them?
            Reasoning how you are sick on the head and I really would like you to see the same attitude towards your children, but your children are not to blame for the cruelty and heartlessness of their parents!
            The Almighty from each inshalah will ask for deeds and intentions!
          9. Yarbay
            Yarbay 13 July 2013 07: 31
            +2
            Quote: Pimply
            First of all, you didn’t answer me what to do in such a situation.



            Or are you trolling me Zhenya or are you blind!
            I answered three times and I'm not going to feed the troll!


            Keep fighting with the kids!
            it will bring you * Glory * !!!

        2. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 13 July 2013 02: 40
          +3
          Quote: Yarbay
          here everyone knows the story of my exclamation points

          Alibek hi And your famous brackets laughing Has you made peace with Azir?
        3. Yarbay
          Yarbay 13 July 2013 07: 27
          +2
          Quote: Ruslan67
          And your famous brackets

          Ruslan, I have already written 100 times here that when I was learning to write on a computer, I wrote in different languages!
          And there, commas and dots under different keys, shook, often mistaken, and the exclamation point is the same for everyone!
          Remained a habit!))
          and the rest I do not comment!
  • Old skeptic
    Old skeptic 13 July 2013 02: 23
    +1
    Quote: Pimply
    Personally, he grabbed a 13-year-old child by the ear when his school somehow went into stone-throwing. The kid was detained, then released. Have you ever stood under a shaft of stones and seen its consequences?


    The issue of stone throwers has been discussed many times here.
    The answer is simple - the borders of 1967.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 13 July 2013 02: 40
      +1
      Will not help. More than half of Palestinian society is not going to recognize Israel within these borders. In all cases, only a break in the armed struggle is considered, and even then - only part of the groupings.
      1. Old skeptic
        Old skeptic 13 July 2013 02: 46
        -1
        And you try ....

        This is a rotten otmaz - We will not return foreign land, because it will not change anything.

        How is it in Hebrew.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 13 July 2013 02: 52
          +1
          Funny, why do you think she is a stranger? If you were driven out of your apartment, does it mean that the new tenants own it rightfully. Until 1967, no one was thinking of any Palestinian state. Do you know? No? Ask Jordan and Egypt. So let's not need songs and fairy tales.
        2. Old skeptic
          Old skeptic 13 July 2013 02: 56
          0
          The "apartment" had to be defended many centuries ago to the last drop of blood (it is not good to throw away wink ).
          And you prefer how ..... to scatter through the cracks, and spread plague and infection around the world.

          But the crusaders did not go to Egypt, not to Syria, much less to Israel, but to Palestine.
        3. Pimply
          Pimply 13 July 2013 03: 10
          +4
          They defended. Read The Jewish War. One of the most violent anti-Roman uprisings.

          Quote: Old Skeptic
          But the crusaders did not go to Egypt, not to Syria, much less to Israel, but to Palestine.


          Which does not mean that it was a state. It was a region, a territory. I recommend that you read about the origin of the name. The Roman emperor Hadrian crushed in 135 AD e. Jewish revolt against Rome led by Bar Kochba. He changed the name of Jerusalem to “Elia Capitolina” and ordered the entire territory between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River to call Syria Palestine - “Syria Palaestina” (Latin version of the Greek name). The renaming was carried out in order to erase the memory of the kingdom of Judah.
          Failed.
        4. Old skeptic
          Old skeptic 13 July 2013 03: 16
          +1
          Quote: Pimply
          They defended. Read The Jewish War. One of the most violent anti-Roman uprisings.


          And how, then you were spread all over the world if you fought to the last drop ...........?
  • Pimply
    Pimply 13 July 2013 02: 44
    +4
    In addition, there was an attempt to transfer territories under full Palestinian control. Exit from Gaza. Ended in an armed coup and civil war in autonomy, as well as regular rocket attacks on Israel.
    1. Old skeptic
      Old skeptic 13 July 2013 02: 52
      -1
      It's not about autonomy, but about an independent Palestinian state, and their civil war is not your problem (as well as the Syrian one).
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 13 July 2013 02: 56
        +2
        It’s completely Israeli. The group that came to power in Gaza bombarded Israel. The Palestinian state is not viable, at the moment it is a split artificial entity that exists on sponsorship money. Gaza gives money to Qatar and Iran, the West Bank - the European Union, USA, LAS, Israel. Terrible Israel supplies water, electricity to the PA, and heals Palestinians in hospitals. The story of the Palestinian state appeared after 1967, before that it really did not interest anyone.
      2. Old skeptic
        Old skeptic 13 July 2013 03: 05
        +2
        An artificial education is Israel (donated by the so-called international community at someone else’s expense).
      3. Pimply
        Pimply 13 July 2013 03: 12
        +2
        Israel did not appear thanks to a piece of paper. There are a lot of papers, but are there many real states? Israel defended its independence in the war against several states. The decision of the UN General Assembly does not give anything - it is advisory, no more.
      4. Old skeptic
        Old skeptic 13 July 2013 03: 20
        0
        And now you will tell me about the thousand-year war of the Jews with different invaders in their land (promised). wink
  • Beck
    Beck 13 July 2013 09: 07
    +4
    Quote: Old Skeptic
    The issue of stone throwers has been discussed many times here.
    The answer is simple - the borders of 1967.


    Initially, who did not want to live within the 1967 borders, even within the 1948 borders defined by the UN? This Arabs did not want. They wanted to erase the borders of Israel, throw the Jews into the sea and live on their own. Therefore, several wars were unleashed, but there were always beats. If they recognized the borders of 1948 and the right of Jews, as a people, to exist on their land, then there would not be a current situation.

    Being beaten several times, Egypt realized that you couldn’t do anything by force and signed a peace treaty with Israel and now there are no problems with the border. Palestinian and Arab Orthodox and terrorist groups, despite being beaten regularly, do not want peaceful coexistence and continue to refuse to recognize Israel at all.

    They don’t recognize - it’s their business, but then you don’t have to scream for the whole world, when they once again get a rebuff.
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 13 July 2013 14: 29
    +1
    [quote = igor67] [quote = Ruslan why are you poking at me? There is no need for a child’s tears, ask the parents of this child for the sake of filming the child is substituted, and more than one soldier did not even touch the child, they ask who the father of the child is.

    You will not be able to justify the actions of Israeli soldiers in this video, because child abuse, whether it be physical or psychological, cannot be justified by a normal person. In vain you posted this video.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 13 July 2013 14: 55
      +1
      Quote: Ruslan_F38
      You will not be able to justify the actions of Israeli soldiers in this video, because child abuse, whether it be physical or psychological, cannot be justified by a normal person. In vain you posted this video

      The first time I agree with you !!
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 13 July 2013 23: 16
        +1
        Quote: Yarbay
        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        You will not be able to justify the actions of Israeli soldiers in this video, because child abuse, whether it be physical or psychological, cannot be justified by a normal person. In vain you posted this video

        The first time I agree with you !!


        Mutually!!! I agree with you!
  • Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 12 July 2013 08: 27
    0
    article - baaalshoy minus.-
  • Nayhas
    Nayhas 12 July 2013 08: 36
    +4
    And what is the Professor wrong about? What Iran does not have normal aviation? Yes, it’s time for Iranian aircraft to go to the aviation museum ... How is this junk capable of opposing the Israeli Air Force? Iran’s situation with the Air Force is slightly better than that of the DPRK, but is still not able to solve any problems. Is this recognized by the Iranian Air Force? I think yes, they understand that it is impossible to defeat Allah alone ...
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 12 July 2013 09: 08
      15
      Quote: Nayhas
      And what is the Professor wrong about? What Iran does not have normal aviation?

      No, not in this, but in a silly bias !!
      it's not an analysis, but a hack !!

      What, besides the Hawk system, Iran has no air defense systems and air defense systems ???
      The article is not about anything, I suppose that the Professor, as always, hopes that the * patriots * will come running and he will * argue with them * and get 1000 minuses, tell everyone that he doesn’t care, that anyway he will do whatever he wants, he’ll do it!
      Damn all the Iranian generals were shaking from fear and violence, diapers, but only the great analyst * professor *))))))) knew about this)
      1. ayyildiz
        ayyildiz 12 July 2013 13: 39
        +6
        3 Д Iranian production radars!
        1. Guun
          Guun 12 July 2013 20: 14
          +2
          Rather, in Chinese.
          1. ayyildiz
            ayyildiz 12 July 2013 21: 03
            0
            They say Iranian production!
            1. Revolver
              Revolver 13 July 2013 04: 30
              +1
              Quote: ayyildiz
              They say Iranian production!

              Well, yes, they put the Chinese radar on the Russian KamAZ - it means they did it.
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 12 July 2013 23: 22
        +1
        Alibek, what is serious?
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 13 July 2013 00: 45
          +2
          Quote: Pimply
          Alibek, what is serious?

          Almost nothing)))))))
          Except for the S-300, is it a Chinese copy)))))
          But if this analysis should be ALL and prove that all this is NOTHING !!!
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 13 July 2013 00: 49
            +1
            Quote: Yarbay
            Except for the S-300, is it a Chinese copy)))))

            And where is it? 8)
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 13 July 2013 00: 56
              +1
              Quote: Pimply
              And where is it? 8)

              Zhenya is too lazy to look for that photo from the parade, but I think you saw her !!
              And the ascetic said that there is, I at least do not agree with many of his statements, but he knows a lot about this !!
  • Rus_87
    Rus_87 12 July 2013 08: 47
    +8
    Well, what can I say, everything is in the Professor’s style, Israel is the most powerful and developed state in the world, and if they are found, the Jews will be defeated almost in one day ... It's ridiculous ... With a poor Palestine, they would first decide the question, for half a century, everyone can’t figure it out, then they would jump on others. And then Israel reminds me of a Pug, which only yaps, but consoles itself with thoughts of how strong and invincible it is.
  • Svarog
    Svarog 12 July 2013 08: 56
    +2
    Do you really think that the war will go only over the territory of Iran? Around Israel, a bunch of countries from which will go to the "holy" war. Israel will suffer the most from this. There are a lot of planes, and the borders from a heap of small detachments will be bombarded with bombs? If everything was so rosy for Israel, it would have bombed Iran without hesitation. So far, except for preparing the public of the United States and Israel for the upcoming war with Iran, I see no sense from this article.
    1. Dezzed
      Dezzed 12 July 2013 09: 55
      +7
      Unfortunately / Happiness to the "holy war" no one when not in a hurry.
      Example: in 1967, Israel attacks Egypt. and what, Syria, is not easy Arab
      brother, but also an ally bound by a military treaty, will not enter the war within 3 days.

      during these 3 days, passing false information to Egypt about the alleged movement of the Syrian military into the depths of Galilee (northern Israel).
      and finally entering the war, Syria does this not on its own initiative, but as a consequence of the Israeli strike through Lebanon and at the Golan Heights.
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 12 July 2013 11: 22
        +5
        Quote: DezzeD
        and finally entering the war Syria does this not on its own initiative, but as a consequence of the Israeli strike

        So all the same, the main aggressor is Israel, and then everything is a dove of Israel pretending to be))) oh you burned the office laughing
  • svskor80
    svskor80 12 July 2013 09: 00
    +3
    In a direct clash of the armed forces, Israel (all the same, not in a day of course) will defeat Iran completely. Iran can win back partisan war and terrorist attacks. I think this is the main danger to Israel. Well, apart from the fact that such a conflict can easily become the fuse of larger-scale and bloody events, where Israel, in turn, will not play any role.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 13 July 2013 04: 51
      +1
      Quote: svskor80
      Iran can recoup guerrilla warfare and terrorist attacks

      Terrorist attacks - quite, it is in their capabilities and style. But guerrilla warfare - where is it? Israel will definitely not occupy Iran, it will tear apart nuclear and military facilities in Iran to the smithereens and half, and this will calm down. In Israel, there are no Persians even on the most plump partisan detachment, and even strained the forests, not to mention the Polesye swamps. And to involve the Palestinians in this matter - so they would have already guerrilla without Iran if they could.
  • dojjdik
    dojjdik 12 July 2013 09: 02
    +2
    yes, the ridiculous attempts of the Jews to frighten the Persians; Well, if Israel is really so "strong" why then all lie about some non-existent "nuclear" weapon of the Iranians and pretend that we are "afraid" of such an unpredictable neighbor; lied to Israeli propaganda; and you will not get the oil and gas reserves of the Iranians, no matter what lies you spread
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 13 July 2013 05: 00
      +1
      Quote: dojjdik
      and the oil and gas reserves of the Iranians you won’t get, no matter what lies you spread


      Why are Iranian oil and gas reserves so dear to you? And by the way, if not for sanctions, Iran would already be pulling a gas pipe to Geyropu. And with whom, in your opinion, would they compete there? Right, with Gazprom. And you, as a patriot (hopefully) of Russia, do you need it?
      1. dojjdik
        dojjdik 13 July 2013 08: 44
        -1
        and the fact that after the capture by Israel (and the State Jews behind it) of oil and gas fields, the military budget of your beloved America and NATO will become not 600 billion and 800-900 billion (before the capture of the Libyan and Iraqi fields it was 300-400 billion) and Iranian gas will never we are a competitor because we are political and military partners (it would be ridiculous if Israeli Jews competed with American) and we would be economic: Russia really needs it (Qatar has long been six among Jews, we won’t make porridge with it)
  • Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 12 July 2013 09: 16
    0
    Quote: svskor80
    In a direct clash of the armed forces, Israel (all the same, not in a day of course) will defeat Iran completely. Iran can win back partisan war and terrorist attacks. I think this is the main danger to Israel. Well, apart from the fact that such a conflict can easily become the fuse of larger-scale and bloody events, where Israel, in turn, will not play any role.
    -
    - everyone has already seen Izr. defeated Hezbollah in 2006. wassat
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 12 July 2013 09: 19
      +7
      Quote: 20 kopeek
      - everyone has already seen Izr. defeated Hezbollah in 2006

      We must be more serious if it were not for the political decision of the leaders of Israel, then Israel would have crushed * Hezbullah * in a month, two !!!!
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 13 July 2013 05: 09
        +2
        Quote: Yarbay
        We must be more serious if it were not for the political decision of the leaders of Israel, then Israel would have crushed * Hezbullah * in a month, two !!!!

        I often did not agree with you, but here you have an obvious plus.
        Oops, clicked on the minus, belay but went to your http://topwar.ru/user/Yarbay/ and corrected. And another plus below. And still I apologize most sincerely.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 13 July 2013 07: 39
          +2
          Quote: Nagan
          I often did not agree with you, but here you have an obvious plus.
          Oops, clicked on the minus, but went to your http://topwar.ru/user/Yarbay/ and fixed it. And another plus below. And still I apologize most sincerely.

          Dear, what are you !!
          Enough your comment on the support of my statement!
          Dear, what are you !!
          Enough your comment on the support of my statement!
          Believe me, no apologies!
          I’m even embarrassed!
          Thank you!
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 12 July 2013 10: 36
      +8
      Quote: 20 kopeek

      - everyone has already seen Izr. defeated Hezbollah in 2006. wassat

      Well defeated. If from 1999 to 2006 the year Israel was fired at by the NURSs of the militants of Kh-lah, border patrols were attacked more than 700 five times and five times, then after the 2006 war there was not a single shot and not a single provocation. Hezbollah understood the lesson.
      Was the war successful? In my opinion, no. The political leadership thrice changed the priorities of military operations, and the military only a week before the end of the war decided to transfer the border operation to a serious offensive in the depths of Lebanon.
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 12 July 2013 19: 12
        +2
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Well defeated.

        21.08.2006 (13.30)
        Ten IDF reservists participating in hostilities in Lebanon completed a protest march to the Prime Minister’s Office in Jerusalem. They demand the immediate resignation of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Defense Minister Amir Peretz and IDF Chief of Staff Dan Halutz.

        According to one of the participants in the protest march, the country's political and military leadership failed to fulfill their responsibilities during the military campaign in Lebanon. Reservists believe that the head of government, the minister of defense, and the chief of general staff are personally responsible for the failure of the Lebanese campaign.
        May 04, 2007 (13:37): The Israelis demanded the resignation of the Prime Minister and Minister ...
        More than 100 Israelis took part in the demonstration, which demanded the immediate resignation of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Defense Minister Amir Peretz in connection with the failures during the Second Lebanon War. The demonstration was held despite the fact that due to the sandstorm the air temperature

        Aron comment on what rallies?
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 12 July 2013 19: 20
          +6
          Quote: saturn.mmm

          Aron comment on what rallies?
          what does it mean in what? I myself went with half of my battalion. Well, you can’t fight like that !!! The corps de ballet, their mother ... am ! In the morning we take Beit Jabel, in the evening we return to the border, and X-la again sets up positions in the night and in the morning we again storm this town. And all this pornography under the pretext of reducing victims among the civilian population. Do not rash the salt on the wounds, already today it makes you sick!
          1. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 12 July 2013 21: 47
            +2
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            I myself went with half of my battalion.

            I expected that the headquarters did not work in the best way. I would like to know your opinion on Hezbollah’s actions in this conflict, but this is not a state organization.
            The cessation of shelling of peaceful settlements can already be considered a victory.
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 12 July 2013 23: 20
              +4
              Quote: saturn.mmm
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              I myself went with half of my battalion.

              I expected that the headquarters did not work in the best way. I would like to know your opinion on Hezbollah’s actions in this conflict, but this is not a state organization.
              The cessation of shelling of peaceful settlements can already be considered a victory.

              They were waiting for us. For 6 years after the IDF left Lebanon, they created an excellent system of bunkers, firing points and land mines. L / s is brave, well trained, competently acts from ambushes.
            2. Pimply
              Pimply 12 July 2013 23: 37
              +3
              Hezbollah is, in fact, a state in a state equipped better than half the region’s armies, unless there is manned aircraft.

              With the help of Hezbollah, Iran and Syria created an additional tension point for Israel on the northern border, and Iran, in fact, created a frontier frontier, without a direct border with Israel.

              Of course, a truly full-fledged Hezbollah army is far away. But this is a powerful guerrilla group with a huge missile arsenal. Moreover, such that many countries can envy him.
              1. uhu189
                uhu189 13 July 2013 00: 41
                +1
                And you can tell in more detail about the missile potential. Just as far as I understand, heavy rockets just can’t be launched, these are not mortars, launchers for them are quite serious. They need to be serviced, hidden, aimed at goals. It’s just that I won’t believe in life that the Israeli intelligence did not find such installations and could not destroy them from the air. Why was the ground operation to start for what? Grind manpower - so you won’t kill everyone and your losses will also not be negligible, occupy the territory - so no one has occupied it. The raid was organized along the lines of defense - but Hezbollah was not defeated. What goals were set, and was it possible to achieve them? If you answer your vision - I will be grateful
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      3. beard999
        beard999 12 July 2013 19: 39
        -1
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Well defeated.

        Demagogy. I can remind you a number of facts:
        1. On August 13, 2006 (the last day of hostilities), Hezbollah carried out a massive shelling of northern Israel - (in the Kiryat Shmona region alone, about 100 rockets exploded, Shlomi, Safed, Krayot, Haifa, Western Galilee were subjected to massive shelling ... ) Some sources claim that this day was a record, for the number of Hezbollah launched missiles, for the entire period of the July war.
        2. On August 13, 2006, fierce fighting took place in the area of ​​the Lebanese city of Aita al-Shaab. It is only 700 meters (!!!) from the Israeli border, i.e. in a territory that seems to have been under the control of the IDF a long time ago.
        3. On July 16, 2008, when exchanging according to the “all for all” principle, in response to the transfer by Hezbollah of the bodies of Goldwasser and Regev, Israel returned 190 bodies and a total of 5 (!!!) captured Hezbollah soldiers. And Israel no longer had captives, not slain. And the number of Hezbollah fighters at that time in Israel itself was estimated at 4500.
        Well, what kind of "rout" can we talk about? Do not invent, Hezbollah has fully preserved its combat effectiveness.
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        after the war of 2006 there was not a single shot and not a single provocation

        Another lie. Just for an example: http://ria.ru/trend/Lebanon_firing/. But it doesn’t even matter. The main thing is that Hezbollah stopped shelling solely on its own initiative, and not as a result of a military defeat, and subsequently, in general, it only adhered to the armistice in 2006. Its Hezbollah missile arsenal, after the end of the July war, restored very quickly, already by November 2006 http://txt.newsru.com/world/12nov2006/umo.html.
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Political leadership

        And what could your "political leadership" do? It is likely that the "political leadership" of Israel wanted to quickly turn the entire territory to Litani into a lunar landscape, but who would let him do it? No wonder Israel is called the 51st Middle Eastern state of the United States. Orders for the scale of the operation, and for its cessation, came more from Washington than from Tel Aviv. During the July war, against the Israel was the entire Middle East, without exception, including the United States' Arab allies. And the Americans do not want to spoil relations with the Arabs.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 12 July 2013 19: 51
          +6
          You know to me by drum all the zhurnolamerskaya derbene. I know one thing before 2006, Hezbollah had no desire to live peacefully, and now they’ve been afraid to hiss once more for seven years in the direction of Israel. For seven years, the North of Israel has such peaceful conditions as it did not know from the 60 of the last century. This is a fact.
          1. beard999
            beard999 12 July 2013 21: 54
            -1
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            That is a fact

            This is not a fact, but a gobbled Israeli propaganda. And very stupid, because you are engaged in self-deception. And I don’t know what else could be dumber than a similar position ...
            You said above that there were no shelling by Hezbollah. So - this is a lie. They were. Nothing serious yet. But Nasrallah will order and thousands of missiles will fall on Israel again, and no one will ask you, because Hezbollah is not defeated and completely combat-ready, and does not carry out shelling solely because for the time being (and the Persians) this position is beneficial. And whether you like it or not, Israel is in no way able to influence this situation. And do not lie about "peaceful conditions." Hezbollah has not signed any peace with you and is not going to sign it.
            And the only serious fact is the fact that for 25 days of fighting, the regular army of Israel, having an absolute advantage in military and tactical forces and manpower, was unable to defeat partisan units, moreover, on a very limited theater of war (about 25x25 km in size, from border to r . Litani). This is a fact.
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 12 July 2013 23: 23
              +3
              There were no shelling. Iran’s missile weapons are for Israel a much greater threat than the entire arsenal of Hez-lah. I do not know what Nasrallah will order, but for the last 7 years he has lived in a bunker, and the Israeli North is at peace and tranquility. And this is not propaganda but a fact.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 13 July 2013 07: 42
                +1
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                Nasrallah, but for the last 7 years he has been living in a bunker, and the Israeli North is at peace and tranquility.

                I did not understand the world of the north of Israel associated with the living of Nasrullah in a bunker ???
              2. beard999
                beard999 13 July 2013 15: 30
                -1
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                this is not propaganda but a fact

                The propaganda is statements about the defeat of Hezbollah in the July war of 2006. And you are simply manipulating the "facts". Here you write: "The north of Israel has such peaceful conditions as I did not know from the 60s of the last century." And where does Hezbollah? In the 60s and 70s. this organization did not exist at all. It was founded in 1982 in the summer of 2006, Hezbollah had its first serious direct clash with the IDF, and it withstood it with dignity. And you could not defeat him. The fact that there is no such massive shelling by Hezbollah is not your merit, but the decision of Hezbollah itself. Tens of thousands of Hezbollah rockets have not disappeared. Hezbollah is not your Hamas chantrap, it will not be exchanged for a trifle. But you try to tuck into one way or another in Iran, and again, right away, the floor of Israel will sit in the basements.
        2. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 12 July 2013 21: 56
          +2
          Quote: beard999
          Well, what kind of "rout" can we talk about? Do not invent, Hezbollah has fully preserved its combat effectiveness.

          Many members of Hezbollah died in this war, Hezbollah has authority in Lebanon, like a faction in parliament, I don’t know for sure, everyone got what the Israelis wanted for a peaceful sky, Hezbollah recognized.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 12 July 2013 23: 38
            +1
            Hezbollah is part of the government.
            1. saturn.mmm
              saturn.mmm 13 July 2013 00: 25
              +1
              Quote: Pimply
              Hezbollah is part of the government.

              For a long time I was simply interested in this issue, something was messed up, so if something excuse me.
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 13 July 2013 00: 37
                0
                In Lebanon, the coalition government, Hezbollah, until recently, was part of it. It still has a serious influence and refuses to disarm - despite the memorable UN resolutions.
          2. beard999
            beard999 13 July 2013 15: 31
            -1
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            Many Hezbollah members die in this war

            The number of Hezbollahs, together with reservists, in various sources ranges from 8000 to 12000. According to the results of the July war, Hezbollah itself acknowledged the deaths of about 250 of its fighters, Israeli sources (in particular Granovsky) write about “more than 700” killed, the UN about “less than 500” killed members of Hezbollah, Mustakbal in their parliamentary report talked about 400 dead. Choose any number. None of them testifies to the defeat of Hezbollah. The maximum number of people killed is less than 10% of the total traffic. Hezbollah's popularity in Lebanon is high. They can not only quickly restore their numbers, but also at the same time carry out a serious selection in their combat units.
        3. Pimply
          Pimply 12 July 2013 23: 38
          +2
          In my memory, since 2006 there have been 2 or 3 shellings, and not by Hezbollah fighters. Against more than 700 in the previous 6 years.
  • AK-47
    AK-47 12 July 2013 09: 17
    +1
    Many Iraqi planes fled to Iran to avoid an American strike. The Iranians never returned them.

    It’s not gentlemanly.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 12 July 2013 09: 42
      +6
      Quote: AK-47
      It’s not gentlemanly.

      they didn’t agree and didn’t do anything ... especially to the Saddam!
      1. AK-47
        AK-47 12 July 2013 10: 12
        -1
        Quote: Yarbay
        they didn’t agree and didn’t do anything ... especially to the Saddam!

        Suppose your garden plot accidentally the ball flew in, isn’t this the reason not to give it away?
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 12 July 2013 11: 10
          +8
          Quote: AK-47
          Suppose a ball accidentally flies into your garden plot, doesn’t this reason not to give it away?

          unethical comparison !!
          Let's say a knife or an ax fell on my site not just a neighbor but an enemy with whom we are suing!
          Of course I would not return !!
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 12 July 2013 23: 46
      +1
      What gentlemanhood? Iran and Iraq fought for 8 years, Iraq started the war.
    3. Denis
      Denis 13 July 2013 02: 04
      0
      Quote: AK-47
      It’s not gentlemanly.
      Many Iraqi aircraft (most of them Soviet-made) fled to Iran to avoid an American strike
      The task is completed, the strike was avoided and ready for action
      Iraq has not been a friend to them for a long time, not Saddam, not the current pro-Amerian
  • Humpty
    Humpty 12 July 2013 09: 24
    +5
    Smoothly on paper, but (Zionists) forgot about the ravines.
    I wonder if there is at least one country that Iran attacked first in recent years 150.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 13 July 2013 05: 18
      +2
      Well, if you dig a little deeper into history, then Russia, in particular, will appear on this list. They destroyed the embassy, ​​killed all the staff, including Ambassador Griboyedov (yes, the same one, "Woe from Wit"). And an attack on an embassy enjoying extraterritorial status is the same as an attack on a sovereign territory.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 13 July 2013 07: 46
        +2
        Quote: Nagan
        Well, if you dig a little deeper into history, then Russia, in particular, will appear on this list. They destroyed the embassy, ​​killed all the staff, including Ambassador Griboyedov (yes, the same one, "Woe from Wit"). And an attack on an embassy enjoying extraterritorial status is the same as an attack on a sovereign territory.

        Well, if you dig even deeper, then Griboedov was not an angel in that situation!
        Yes, and officially apologized, appeased with gifts and supposedly the hooligans are to blame))))
        But Russia had and still have bigger problems with Iran!
  • Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 12 July 2013 09: 24
    -1
    Quote: Yarbay
    Quote: 20 kopeek
    - everyone has already seen Izr. defeated Hezbollah in 2006

    We must be more serious if it were not for the political decision of the leaders of Israel, then Israel would have crushed * Hezbullah * in a month, two !!!!
    -
    ---two? horseradish with two.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 12 July 2013 09: 28
      +7
      Quote: 20 kopeek
      two? horseradish with two.

      Maybe earlier!
      Time would depend on what kind of casualties the Israeli command would have been prepared for!
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 12 July 2013 09: 36
        +4
        Quote: Yarbay
        Time would depend on what kind of casualties the Israeli command would have been prepared for!

        It has nothing to do with it. Everything depended solely on the extent to which Israeli politicians could resist the pressure of the "international community", that is, liberal fundamentalists entrenched in American and European power structures.
        1. Ustian
          Ustian 12 July 2013 13: 25
          +2
          Quote: Spade
          how much Israeli politicians could resist the pressure of the "international community"

          And in my opinion, they put pressure wassat
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 12 July 2013 23: 48
          +1
          Exactly
      2. omsbon
        omsbon 12 July 2013 10: 50
        +1
        Quote: Yarbay
        Time would depend on what kind of casualties the Israeli command would have been prepared for!

        Hi Alibek!
        It seems to me that the Israelis would not have gone to great losses, they tried to solve everything by air strikes, without a ground operation.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 12 July 2013 12: 09
          +6
          Quote: omsbon
          Hi Alibek!
          It seems to me that the Israelis would not have gone to great losses, they tried to solve everything by air strikes, without a ground operation.

          Hi Andrew!
          Here I do not agree with you !!
          The fact is that I think that without a ground operation there the problem of the destruction of Hezbollah cannot be solved!
          And the more they bombed, the more noise there is in the world and there will be little effectiveness in the military aspect!
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 12 July 2013 09: 28
      15
      He is right. The Israeli army is not a single army of neighbors or any other military grouping and is not suitable for indictment. And individually, and all together.

      In Israel, wars lose to politicians.
      1. Essenger
        Essenger 12 July 2013 14: 35
        +1
        Quote: Spade
        Israeli army no army of neighbors


        What about Turkey?
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 12 July 2013 23: 58
          +1
          Turkey, to some extent, Egypt. Turkey has a certain lag in technology, but a more powerful fleet (although, for example, Israel has the same submarines better).
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          2. ayyildiz
            ayyildiz 13 July 2013 17: 43
            +1
            We have 14 submarines, this year the construction of 6 submarines type 214 begins
        2. Revolver
          Revolver 13 July 2013 05: 27
          +2
          Quote: Essenger
          Quote: Spade
          Israeli army no army of neighbors


          What about Turkey?

          Turkey will become Israel’s neighbor only if Syria disappears from the map. And so Turkish planes will not reach Israel, as well as most Israeli (F-16) to Turkey. The F-15s will fly, but the hanging tanks will gobble up most of the payload.
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 12 July 2013 23: 55
        +1
        It should be borne in mind that, among other things, there is enormous international pressure on Israel.
    3. omsbon
      omsbon 12 July 2013 10: 45
      +5
      Quote: 20 kopeek
      -two? horseradish with two.

      Reasoned and very convincing!
  • andrejwz
    andrejwz 12 July 2013 09: 28
    0
    The constant stream of boastful press releases issued by the Iranian military was aimed at raising local morale,

    Is the article translated by the "Professor" intended to raise the morale of the Jewish military?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 12 July 2013 09: 44
      +7
      He is already tall. Knowledge of the enemy, confidence in their technique and in their preparation, unconditional support of their own population.
      They do not need the press to further boost morale through the statues.
  • Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 12 July 2013 09: 32
    -9
    Quote: Yarbay
    Quote: 20 kopeek
    two? horseradish with two.

    Maybe earlier!
    Time would depend on what kind of casualties the Israeli command would have been prepared for!
    -
    "B" in history does not beat. "If my grandmother beat a dick, she beat a bi grandfather"
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 12 July 2013 09: 40
      12
      Quote: 20 kopeek
      "B" in history does not beat. "If my grandmother beat a dick, she beat a bi grandfather"

      This * grandmother * (Israel) has a member and she beats not only grandfather, but also all his relatives)))))
      And beats as he wants)))
      1. omsbon
        omsbon 12 July 2013 11: 01
        +1
        Just imagine how circumcision is done, I understand why Israel is pounding all grandfather's relatives. laughing
  • viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 12 July 2013 09: 47
    +3
    Well, what can I say, everything is in the style of the Professor ... and no matter what the post, the Israeli propaganda and the Israel-pug in the shade of the very knowledge of whom, etc., she rushed over the bumps (thinking). Well, I don’t see any propaganda (but I see a list of reasonably reasonable calculations from the brow who has all the prerequisites for this, both in terms of the versatile knowledge available to him ... already, PROF is clearly better than all of us put together aware of the real current MATTERS at the local TVD). I don’t see a pug dog in the face of their army, even if it’s cracked, for me, they look more like an English bulldog - the torso is small, but the head is large and in the mouth is full of incisors without signs of caries ... as far as I am in the subject, we have, and not until recently they had a rather lengthy Santa Barbara-style series in the Moscow region with a stinky exhaust in the end, we had a couple of decades of a truly SCOTTIC attitude towards the army, due to which we ourselves almost turned into something pug-like.
    And the last thing - why in a dispute many immediately jump to a national sign ??? Is it fashionable and glamorous?
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 12 July 2013 12: 07
      +9
      Quote: viktor_ui
      Well what can I say, everything is in the style of the Professor

      Quote: Rus_87
      Well what can I say, everything is in the style of the Professor

      Professor congratulations, you are so famous that articles are already darned on the strategypage imitating your style. I don’t see another explanation since you translated the article without adding anything from yourself, but some immediately recognized your style.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 12 July 2013 17: 00
        +5
        Quote: Rumata
        Professor congratulations, you are so famous that articles are already darned on the strategypage imitating your style. I don’t see any other explanation since you translated the article without adding anything from yourself, but some immediately recognized your style

        Yes, do not scuff!
        The professor is translating precisely low-grade and completely useless articles in this case!
        The professor has a choice whether to translate high-quality articles or an evil hack!
        He chooses hack to his liking!
        That's all!
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 13 July 2013 00: 00
          +2
          The professor has translated a fairly high-quality article. There are stylistic flaws in translation, no more. I would not say that the article is something outstanding, an ordinary middling, but call it base, Alibek - why?
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 13 July 2013 00: 50
            +2
            Quote: Pimply
            I would not say that the article is something outstanding, an ordinary middling, but call it base, Alibek - why?

            Eugene read the beginning of the article !!
            That the author has a special technique and thanks to the increasing pulse of Iranian generals determines their animal horror ??
            This is hack!
            With all due respect to you, Eugenny!
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 13 July 2013 01: 18
              +1
              Alibek, the usual imagery of speech. And within reasonable limits.

              This is not a monograph on the subject, this is an article.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 13 July 2013 13: 11
                0
                Quote: Pimply
                Alibek, the usual imagery of speech. And within reasonable limits.

                Where is reasonable ???
                If about Jewish generals, would it also be reasonable ??
                Quote: Pimply
                This is not a monograph on the subject, this is an article.

                Mlyn Zhenya I know what a monograph is and what an article is!
                in this case, it’s a low-quality hack!
  • Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 12 July 2013 09: 50
    -4
    Quote: Yarbay
    Quote: 20 kopeek
    - everyone has already seen Izr. defeated Hezbollah in 2006

    We must be more serious if it were not for the political decision of the leaders of Israel, then Israel would have crushed * Hezbullah * in a month, two !!!!
    -
    - "If not for the Russian winters, mi, Germans, bi won. Since mi fought exclusively in winter, and in summer they drank tea with Zhukov and with cherry jam"
  • pensioner
    pensioner 12 July 2013 09: 50
    11
    Ahmadinejad also loved to brag about how well prepared Iran was to set the heat for Israel when it decided to enter the battle with Iran. The Iranian military leaders were shrinking with fear, because they knew that the military power that Ahmadinejad boasts is largely an illusion.

    After reading the professor’s article at the Iranian Air Force headquarters, seven shot themselves. 317 pilots needed psychological help. Iranian Ministry of Defense announced a competition for vacant posts. The 3rd aircraft categorically refused to take off and persuaded others to do so. Shot on the spot. The Iranian Air Force has never suffered such losses. Mourning declared ...
  • Bongo
    Bongo 12 July 2013 09: 56
    +6
    MiG-29 is extremely difficult to maintain aircraft, even with all the necessary spare parts
    ... Is it more difficult to maintain than Iran's Phantoms and Tomkets?
    In general, the article is very biased, the main threat to Israeli aviation in the event of a conflict will be not relatively small Iranian fighters but anti-aircraft missile systems. No wonder the Israelis did everything so that C-300P did not get into Iran.
  • Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 12 July 2013 10: 09
    -7
    Quote: Yarbay
    Quote: 20 kopeek
    "B" in history does not beat. "If my grandmother beat a dick, she beat a bi grandfather"

    This * grandmother * (Israel) has a member and she beats not only grandfather, but also all his relatives)))))
    And beats as he wants)))

    Israel has only one member-propaganda / and provocative /. And that circumcised wassat
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 13 July 2013 05: 43
      +4
      Quote: 20 kopeek
      Israel has only one member-propaganda / and provocative /. And that circumcised

      And you, I’m sorry, were holding it in your hands and tasted it, what do you set out with such knowledge of the matter?
  • Akim
    Akim 12 July 2013 10: 11
    +5
    Professor, you represent one side of a hypothetical conflict. Of course, there is no hyperbole in these arguments and Iran does not have a normal air force, but anyway, it is not worth counting on an easy victory in the air, especially since Iran is developing its own air defense systems.
    1. Professor
      12 July 2013 11: 25
      +8
      Quote: Akim
      Professor, you represent one side of a hypothetical conflict. Of course, there is no hyperbole in these arguments and Iran does not have a normal air force, but anyway, it is not worth counting on an easy victory in the air, especially since Iran is developing its own air defense systems.

      Quote: Akim
      Professor, you represent one side of a hypothetical conflict. Of course, there is no hyperbole in these arguments and Iran does not have a normal air force, but anyway, it is not worth counting on an easy victory in the air, especially since Iran is developing its own air defense systems.

      Nobody talks about an easy victory at all, moreover, the local establishment does not want war at all and there is no military rhetoric in the local press. Only nuclear weapons are feared, since everyone here understands that Iran is a paper tiger.

      Quote: andrejwz
      Is the article translated by the "Professor" intended to raise the morale of the Jewish military?

      Jewish military do not read Military Review and strategypage. They train, even reservists, 30-40 days a year ...

      Quote: retired
      After reading the professor’s article at the Iranian Air Force headquarters, seven shot themselves. 317 pilots needed psychological help.

      They needed this help when they were shown a cardboard toy airplane on which they had to fight.


      Quote: LM66
      If you make translations, then you need to translate into Russian, and not publish an illiterate text.

      Flag in your hands, translate into Russian. Or do you only know how to criticize?
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 12 July 2013 11: 47
        0
        Quote: Professor
        They needed this help when they were shown a cardboard toy airplane on which they had to fight.

        Good afternoon Professor. The weapon is of course mysterious ... And if this is a kamikaze plane? Or a shock drone? (A pilot in the cockpit is for desa.) Something does mean that. So that ...
        1. Professor
          12 July 2013 12: 50
          +2
          This cardboard airplane is not capable of flying even in principle, except for ironic grins, this idea does not cause anything else from experts. Show you their own helicopter?
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 12 July 2013 13: 14
            0
            Then light up the missile program, which’s a little thing ..
            1. Professor
              12 July 2013 13: 40
              +4
              Quote: Thunderbolt
              Then light up the missile program, which’s a little thing ..

              And it is possible. I will find the corresponding article, I will post it. They learned to cheat with rockets and were caught red-handed.


              PS
              and the monkey in space has grown
              1. Thunderbolt
                Thunderbolt 12 July 2013 14: 07
                -1
                Quote: Professor
                I will find the corresponding article, I will post it.
                Thank you (and then an article about Israel’s missile defense). And doesn’t it seem to you that this cosmic weightlessness caused pathological changes in the macaque's body (?), So the mole formed bully
                1. Professor
                  12 July 2013 14: 55
                  +3
                  100%. The Squirrel flew, and the Arrow type returned. laughing
                  1. Thunderbolt
                    Thunderbolt 12 July 2013 15: 24
                    0
                    North Korea, over there, "smacking" missiles at America. While the flight is undershot, they shoot. And between you and the Persians, the distance is not so significant, and Iran itself is not Korea. What game does he play with the same China ..? in, and who knows it. The state of the Iranian Air Force you summarize is correct, but what kind of "fintiflyushki" escaped from open sources, what "fog of war" will envelop your efki when they take off by order of the BBC from Azerbaijani and Saudi airfields As you subtly noted). All targets in Iran "necessary" for your high-precision weapons are buried in rocks. So you need to have the appropriate means. They used to say that the Americans gave you something. Except for that.
                    1. Professor
                      12 July 2013 15: 33
                      +2
                      Quote: Thunderbolt
                      All targets in Iran "necessary" for your high-precision weapons are buried in rocks.

                      These nuclear facilities are far hidden, and now you can’t hide the aircraft and air defense much. Satellites see with a resolution of 30 cm, not to mention drones.
                      1. Thunderbolt
                        Thunderbolt 12 July 2013 15: 50
                        0
                        Well, the ultimate goal of your operation will not be S-200 positions, but protected nuclear facilities. If there are appropriate weapons, then there are no questions.
                        Quote: Professor
                        Satellites see with a resolution of 30 cm, not to mention drones.
                        Satellites and you can "wait", the drone is also serious, but here the main danger is your intelligence intelligence. If you have your own "Stirlitz" (or better a lot) from the Persians, then you will definitely not hide anything.
                      2. Fetel
                        Fetel 12 July 2013 17: 29
                        -1
                        "resolution of 30 cm" - of course you said a lot))))

                        Read at your leisure a textbook of the Russian language, Professor.
                        The letter "P", the word "resolution" applied to optics.
                        Learn - no, not materiel - learn the Russian language, look, you in a foreign land began to slowly forget it ...
                      3. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 12 July 2013 18: 15
                        +4
                        Quote: FeteL
                        "resolution of 30 cm" - of course you said a lot))))
                        Read at your leisure a textbook of the Russian language, Professor.
                        The letter "P", the word "resolution" applied to optics.
                        Learn - no, not materiel - learn the Russian language, look, you in a foreign land began to slowly forget it ...

                        Are you sure that it is necessary for the Professor to learn Russian, and not for you materiel? This word is often used in the application to electronic-optical devices pros. So you should consider whether to argue with him on this topic.
                2. pensioner
                  pensioner 12 July 2013 18: 16
                  0
                  Quote: Professor
                  00%. The Squirrel flew, and the Arrow type returned.

                  What if a mistake? They didn’t overlook anything. Have you heard about the Victory Parade (not yours)? There is a lot of everything there that historians are still pondering ...
                  1. Professor
                    13 July 2013 08: 58
                    +1
                    Quote: retired
                    What if a mistake? They didn’t overlook anything.

                    Iran has had too many of these mistakes lately. Photoshop drives. wassat
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 12 July 2013 10: 14
    +1
    The Israeli military has become a target for criticism from their own human rights defenders. The humanitarian organization Btselem accused IDF officers of detaining a five-year-old Palestinian child in the city of Hebron on the West Bank of the Jordan River. And as proof, she posted footage of the shooting, which shows how the soldiers surround the baby.

    Wadi Masvade threw a stone at the car. Later, during interrogation by the police, he admitted that he was methyl in a cat, but got into a car. But as a result, he had to face the army. Soldiers, according to human rights defenders,
    they detained the boy and took him home, there they blindfolded the eyes and hands of the father of the child, holding them both in the house for about half an hour. Then the father and son were taken to a police station in Hebron, where they were handed over to the Palestinian guards who were questioned and soon released, ITAR-TASS reports.

    Analysts believe the incident could generate widespread public outcry. Employees of "Btselem" have already stressed that the military have the right to detain children over 12 years old, and for the younger ones they must find other means of influence.

    The army responded by stating that throwing stones could harm passers-by, and cited statistics: from January to May of this year, more than 150 Israelis suffered from such incidents. In addition, the army statement separately emphasizes that the child was not arrested and no charges were brought against him.
    http://www.vesti.az/news/165396
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 12 July 2013 12: 43
      0
      A soldier will not offend a child
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 12 July 2013 17: 02
        +2
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        A soldier will not offend a child

        offended!
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 12 July 2013 19: 51
          0
          Everything is like in a rhyme: A soldier will not offend a child, Of course, if he does not see it. And so, podzhopnik and forward, Fly like a ball into the garden. laughing
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 13 July 2013 00: 07
          +2
          150 wounded by stones in recent times, there are those killed, Alibek.

          I gave information about the situation above.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 13 July 2013 07: 49
            -1
            Quote: Pimply
            I gave information about the situation above.

            this is not information, but an excuse for a crime !!
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 13 July 2013 00: 07
      +2
      Bezel. The organization is extremely left-wing, it receives part of the money from Arab sources, does not hesitate to go for forgery.

      Betselem activists say the child was "arrested" by Israeli soldiers for throwing stones at cars. However, this moment is not in the video. Also, there is no continuation of this story in the video.

      According to Palestinian human rights activists, Israeli soldiers brought the boy to the house of the Masavad family, where his mother was at that time. They informed the woman that they intend to surrender the child to the Palestinian security forces. However, the boy’s mother refused to talk to them until her husband arrived. When the father of the child returned from work, an IDF officer showed him a stone that his son had thrown into the settler’s car. After this, the father and his son were taken to a military base, where they spent about half an hour. After that, they were again brought to Hebron and handed over to Palestinian police.

      The Israel Defense Forces' press service told Haaretz newspaper: “We are very sorry that the Betselem activists decided to publish a video without discussing what happened to the IDF. It is about a child who threw stones at cars going to Hebron. Israeli soldiers tracked down the child's father and then handed them over to the Palestinian police. " The message emphasizes that at no stage of the proceedings the boy was arrested.

      Representatives of the IDF press service also noted that "even a stone thrown by a child can cause great damage."
    3. Revolver
      Revolver 13 July 2013 08: 19
      +2
      Ah, how bad it is - the boy and his father were handed over to the police, notice in your own Palestinian and not in the Israeli.
      For comparison, this is how the Palestinians act with Israeli children. Do you think it is unacceptable for children to shed tears - how about blood?
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Shalhevet_Pass (к сожалению нет русской версии - пользуйте Google online translate)

      Here is a photo of this girl. She was not even a year old. Her fault was that she was sitting in a stroller. She was killed by a sniper, a member of the military wing of Arafat Fatah .. In optics, he could not help but see who he was shooting at. He did exactly what he had in mind. And then the official newspaper of the Palestinian Authority said that the girl was shot dead by her mother. Why the Jews did not iron the creatures with tanks after this - I do not understand and will never understand.
      Well, minus it!
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 13 July 2013 08: 37
        +1
        Quote: Nagan
        Ah, how bad it is - the boy and his father were handed over to the police, notice in your own Palestinian and not in the Israeli.

        it is much worse than bad !!
        it does not matter where they passed !!
        The question is the behavior of the soldiers and the fact that they terrorized the child!
        Quote: Nagan
        Here is a photo of this girl. She was not even a year old. Her fault was that she was sitting in a stroller. She was killed by a sniper, a member of the military wing of Arafat Fatah.
        You please do not check me for lice !!
        Any killer of a child is ANIMAL for me, regardless of nationality or religion!
        I’m talking about a specific case of a foul attitude towards a young child, and you and Zhenya are trying to prove to me that this is * normal *, they say, they kill Jewish children too !!
        Yes pah for those who do and think so!
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 13 July 2013 10: 59
          +1
          I see that you are able to discuss civilly. Let's debate.
          The picture that you posted is awful. Children don't have to suffer. But adults should not equip missile launchers in residential areas - after all, they knew the creatures that they would be bombed, and specifically wanted this, so that later they would pity everyone and everything and put pressure on Israel. The pilot saw the launcher in his sight, and it was his duty to bomb it, otherwise such pictures would come from Israel as a result of the "hail" shelling. And what the "grads" can do to residential areas - everyone saw in Ossetia in 2008, and then no one seemed to mind that the "rooks" were processing Georgian positions, well, except for the tie eater and his associates.
          But what you fasted is not a crime. This is collateral damage - sorry, I do not know how in Russian, I have not heard such expressions in the Union.
          But what I fasted is aggravated premeditated murder. So your comparison is incorrect. But I will not minus, because I understand your motives (I hope). If you find a photo of Arab children deliberately killed by the "Israeli military" - show it, and I agree with you.

          Yes, about the killer. This was found and given to him for 3 life - but it was necessary to hang.

          Quote: Yarbay
          Yes pah for those who do and think so!

          Please do not spit anymore - this does not decorate you.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 13 July 2013 12: 10
            0
            Quote: Nagan
            Children should not suffer.

            this is the only correct answer!

            The rest is garbage and about missiles and about chance and intentionality!
            We are not talking about the murders of children, which I repeat condemn categorically!
            The conversation was about a child over whom the soldiers criminally mocked!
            In response, trying to somehow justify and shield the soldiers, you and Eugenius are bringing me in to the slaughter of Jewish children !!
            and Eugenius in a cynicism went around everyone as soon as the Jewish soldier turned out to be a criminal !!
            To my repeated answers to his questions, he writes to me that he never received an answer to his question !!
            Knowing Eugene as an intelligent person, I suppose that either from shock carries nonsense or trolls !!
            Quote: Nagan
            Please do not spit anymore - this does not decorate you.
            in some who have lost their conscience do not care !!
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 13 July 2013 12: 18
              +1
              If a five-year-old child throws fireplaces into cars and is detained by the police, takes him crying home, and then detains his father for half an hour to draw up a protocol, will these policemen be criminals? Did I list all the actions of Israeli soldiers, or do you know something else about their unauthorized actions?
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 13 July 2013 12: 32
                +2
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                If a five-year-old child throws fireplaces in cars and is detained by the police, takes him crying home, and then detains his father for half an hour to draw up a report, will these policemen be criminals?

                Aron Are you sick too ??

                On the video frames, the child was not taken home, but was taken away from home and with his father under machine guns !!
                No need to twist * Jewish options * !!
                Everything is clearly visible on the frames!
                In Baku, a 5-year-old child is not led under the machine to the station, just as I think around the world!
                And if someone did this, I would also consider that a villain and a criminal, the same as these in the form of your soldiers!
                I did not see what you listed!
                But the soldiers on the frames acted like scum !!
                1. Rumata
                  Rumata 13 July 2013 16: 15
                  +3
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  On the video frames, the child was not taken home, but was taken away from home and with his father under machine guns !!

                  What a kindergarten. The army and border guards carry out police duties in the territories, but this does not mean that they should go around the unarmed Kasbah. Throwing stones is an attempt on a person’s life, and thank God the child was a little scared while small. can and grow adequate.

                  Quote: Yarbay
                  And if someone did this, I would also consider that a villain and a criminal, the same as these in the form of your soldiers!
                  I did not see what you listed!
                  But the soldiers on the frames acted like scum !!

                  They escorted a child who was trying to kill someone with his father to the police station, then released. Oh yes unrealistic scum. There were times when children younger killed Israelis. We somehow slowed down the 7-year-old, in whose backpack there was a bomb. And how many cases were when the children poured acid on the soldier, well, or tried. All this is done for a reason, a lesson for a child, a lesson for parents, a common message to all those who set children against them, that they too will calculate.
                  But you live in some kind of your own, invented, universe where soldiers give candy to children after an attempted murder, they forgive everyone, they don’t try to find out anything, they ride, unarmed, on a Kasbah on a pony, and poop rainbows.
                  But how much righteous anger, such bastards made the poor child cry, who could have killed another family a couple of hours ago, MONEY.
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 13 July 2013 17: 08
                    -1
                    Quote: Rumata
                    . All this is done for a reason, a lesson to the child

                    this is not a lesson to a child !!
                    This is FARKING !!
                    Quote: Rumata
                    But how much righteous anger, such bastards made the poor child cry

                    Of course BAGS!
                    And I will be happy about the death of every PAD that wears this fascist uniform!
                    And you continue to justify bestiality!
                    At first they tried FALSE, now incredible predictions !!
                    1. Rumata
                      Rumata 13 July 2013 17: 48
                      +2
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      And I will be happy about the death of every PAD that wears this fascist uniform!

                      Well, someone would have doubted. Either you comment on the Sharia law and the cutting off of heads, or you hysterical like a woman about a terrorist child whom the "fascists" made to cry, beasts. In every second comment “I have Jewish friends, I respect them,” although he himself is an obvious xenophobe, and even an Islamist, an explosive mixture. A person who lives according to the medieval concepts of the Koran, honors the "prophet" whose teaching brings up such individuals ...

                      teaches us how to live ...
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 13 July 2013 18: 04
                        0
                        Quote: Rumata
                        Well, someone would doubt it.

                        Who would doubt that you are utter fuckers !!!
                        I will not hysteria, it was just a surprise to me that you are such finished cattle and child killers!
                        Quote: Rumata
                        teaches us how to live ...

                        Such fascists as you do not need to learn to live !!
                        You must be destroyed!
                        Quote: Rumata
                        In every second comment "I have Jewish friends, I respect them," although he himself is a clear xenophobe

                        I have friends Jews, not Fascists like you !!

                        With each new comment you show your true face, the face of the Zionist fascists!
                      2. Rumata
                        Rumata 13 July 2013 18: 47
                        +2
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I will not hysteria, it was just a surprise to me that you are such finished cattle and child killers!

                        Yes, yes, the child was killed in the video. They just escorted me to the police station accompanied by my father and let them go, so you’re hysterical like a woman. No need to tell tales about the fact that his eyes opened, everything became clear, Ascetic was right. For those who read your comments from the very beginning, everything has long been clear. I understand it would be a terrible video in which they killed a child, ate something else, and then there is such a kindergarten and so many emotions.
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        You must be destroyed!

                        so what's the problem? I bought a ticket and go ahead to fight against infidels, carry my antediluvian morality and religion, where it is normal to cut your head and limbs according to Sharia (your words), and to escort a child to the police station after trying to inflict damage on him and let him go is fascism. You yourself wrote a lot of interesting things about the fact that an abandoned Islam should be sentenced to death, dogs are dirty animals, and many more pearls of a person with brains washed by religion. And this is not us, but you need to be treated.
                        You played this performance unsuccessfully, you would have waited until the video was taken off more seriously, otherwise the circus came out big top with a tantrum during the main role in the PMS.
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              2. Yarbay
                Yarbay 13 July 2013 17: 13
                0
                Quote: Yarbay
                and thank god the child was a little scared while small. can and grow adequate.

                I repeat this bestiality and filth!
                wish you experience the same thing !!
                I can not wish it to your children !!
                You are just moral urds!

                You need to be treated, you are already sick on the head!
                How does the land carry such cattle ??
                I always asked, and still seeing people like you, I don’t see the answer!
                Apparently from the Nazis you are not much different!
                Probably all the same, Ascetic was right!
                1. Aaron Zawi
                  Aaron Zawi 13 July 2013 19: 02
                  +1
                  Oh well. We’ll see how you will explain not the forwarding of a minor bully home, but the death of dozens, maybe hundreds of Armenian children, when your MLRS begin to hammer on Stepanakert. Well then, you will definitely be 100% on your side.
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 13 July 2013 22: 26
                    +2
                    Quote: Aron Zaavi
                    We’ll see how you will explain not the forwarding of a minor bully home, but the death of dozens, maybe hundreds of Armenian children,

                    If this happens, I will sincerely regret it, and not how you lie!
                    I repeat Aron again, we are not talking about children killed during the bombing!
                    It is a question of moral terror and intimidation by large, adult fascists, a small 5 summer child and the justification of this act !!!
                    This is moral ugliness !!
                  2. Aaron Zawi
                    Aaron Zawi 13 July 2013 22: 47
                    +1
                    Quote: Yarbay

                    It is a question of moral terror and intimidation by large, adult fascists, a small 5 summer child and the justification of this act !!!
                    This is moral ugliness !!

                    Those. if in any other place in the world large, adult uncles in uniform (for example, policemen) catch a five-year-old bully and take him / her home to put daddy’s gun for his son, for he doesn’t really talk with the snot and he weeps for he understands that this belt cannot be avoided terror against a five year old child? In general, I would like to see your personal reaction if in Moscow a five-year-old kid throws a stone in your car.
                    PS Unfortunately the guys who detained the jerk received a penalty. It turns out that when detaining teenagers throwing stones, soldiers are required to call the police.
                  3. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 13 July 2013 22: 59
                    +1
                    He writes everything correctly. I remember that my friend and I decided to check the information that the "Volga" had an armored windshield. They threw stones. They broke it from the third, or fourth. They were captured by bloody executioners from the Soviet militia. We sat and waited for their parents at the base. Until the evening. By this, we suffered a non-healing psychological trauma. I am still afraid of throwing stones on the windshields of cars.
                  4. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 13 July 2013 23: 21
                    +1
                    Quote: Spade
                    By this, an unhealed psychological trauma was inflicted on us.

                    I agree ... and it's not funny
                    Quote: Spade
                    I’m still afraid to throw stones on the windshields of cars.
                    That you still got off well!
                  5. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 13 July 2013 23: 38
                    +1
                    Really want to pry off the bloody Zionist warrior, and for lack of reason to inflate an elephant from a fly? This is ridiculous

                    Quote: Yarbay
                    That you still got off well!

                    And this kid got off well. There is a hope that he will remember all this well. And he will not be put at 16 for throwing stones at cars with grave consequences or they will not cover him with a rocket from a drone at 26 during the deployment of a launcher on the roof of a hospital.
                    Criminal inclinations must be squeezed in the bud. It is not necessary to leave everything at the mercy of adult Palestinian uncles, who have turned the local "Good night, kids" into a program promoting shahidism.
                  6. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 14 July 2013 00: 56
                    +1
                    Quote: Spade
                    There is a hope that he will remember all this well.

                    hardly...
                    he is only 5 years old !!
              3. smersh70
                smersh70 14 July 2013 00: 30
                +1
                Quote: Spade
                By this, an unhealed psychological trauma was inflicted on us.


                It’s a pity, comrade Lopatov, that Shchelokov’s department made a big mistake that day))) if it acted differently, today we would have a completely different Lopatov smile
              4. Yarbay
                Yarbay 14 July 2013 00: 58
                +1
                Quote: smersh70
                ) if she acted differently, today we would have a completely different Lopatov

                La died)))))))))))))))))
              5. Lopatov
                Lopatov 14 July 2013 09: 15
                +1
                I was registered in the nursery after 4 years anyway. However, I no longer inflicted damage on other people's property.
          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay 13 July 2013 23: 20
            +1
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Those. if in any other place in the world large, adult uncles in uniform (for example, policemen) catch a five-year-old bully and drive / take him home,
            Well no!
            Wrong write Zionist mister!
            The child was detained until his father was brought to tears, and then, together with his father, they were taken to a conversation somewhere!
            Do not lie !!
            A 5-year-old child does not understand what he is doing, he should not ask him, but from his parents! You need to talk with your parents !!
            Tell my son now, go throw a stone at someone, he will do it and will not understand why he is being punished !!
            Keep silent, don’t justify moral ugliness !!
            I myself did something stupid as a child without understanding what I was doing !!
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            I’d like to see your personal reaction if a five-year-old boy throws a stone in your car in Moscow.

            And what kind of reaction can I have ??
            THIS IS THE SAME CHILD !!

            in my compartment, at one time, they stoned me when I was driving through Gudermes!
            As a child, I threw snowballs at trolleybuses and trams !!
      2. smersh70
        smersh70 14 July 2013 00: 27
        +1
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        your MLRS



        and our MLRS Israeli production. where your conscience looked when they sold .... winked
        are we going to plow the fields with them or something, or to grow grapes, you are our humanitarian)))))))) ....

        I have always been on the side of Israel, but after your words, I think chtoli request
      3. Yarbay
        Yarbay 14 July 2013 00: 58
        +1
        Quote: smersh70
        I have always been on the side of Israel, but after your words, I think chtoli

        Even after his words, I am on the side of Israel)))))
        but not on the side of the Nazis)))
      4. Lopatov
        Lopatov 14 July 2013 09: 18
        +1
        The presence of MLRS does not mean that they will fall somewhere. In addition, the Armenians will always know the coordinates of the launchers, so that they will not last long.
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 13 July 2013 18: 58
    +1
    Stop. Let’s you watch the video again. What induced machines. The boy was caught on the street for uncle hooliganism in uniform. They say he went to your house, of course he’s hysterical. For now he will receive a belt from Bati.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 13 July 2013 22: 30
      +1
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Stop. Let’s you watch the video again.

      This is you look carefully !!
  • Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 12 July 2013 10: 21
    -4
    Quote: Yarbay
    The Israeli military has become a target for criticism from their own human rights defenders. The humanitarian organization Btselem accused IDF officers of detaining a five-year-old Palestinian child in the city of Hebron on the West Bank of the Jordan River. And as proof, she posted footage of the shooting, which shows how the soldiers surround the baby.

    Wadi Masvade threw a stone at the car. Later, during interrogation by the police, he admitted that he was methyl in a cat, but got into a car. But as a result, he had to face the army. Soldiers, according to human rights defenders,
    they detained the boy and took him home, there they blindfolded the eyes and hands of the father of the child, holding them both in the house for about half an hour. Then the father and son were taken to a police station in Hebron, where they were handed over to the Palestinian guards who were questioned and soon released, ITAR-TASS reports.

    Analysts believe the incident could generate widespread public outcry. Employees of "Btselem" have already stressed that the military have the right to detain children over 12 years old, and for the younger ones they must find other means of influence.

    The army responded by stating that throwing stones could harm passers-by, and cited statistics: from January to May of this year, more than 150 Israelis suffered from such incidents. In addition, the army statement separately emphasizes that the child was not arrested and no charges were brought against him.
    http://www.vesti.az/news/165396

    - a cat, probably with pace? Then the boy is well done.
  • LM66
    LM66 12 July 2013 10: 37
    0
    If you make translations, then you need to translate into Russian, and not publish an illiterate text.
  • individual
    individual 12 July 2013 10: 38
    +1
    The article covers the problems of a possible confrontation between Iran and Israel.
    The author is anonymous, but writes under the order of the "Department of Intelligence and Special Tasks" "Mossad".
  • IRBIS
    IRBIS 12 July 2013 10: 48
    +1
    Well then. It remains now to confirm all this in practice. I wish the Israeli pilots a "pleasant" flight. "Professor", let the self-rescue kits be checked, they will be useful to them.
    1. Professor
      12 July 2013 11: 29
      +5
      There are no wars without losses, nevertheless, someone repeatedly bombed Syria without self-saving means.
      1. Zopuhhh
        Zopuhhh 12 July 2013 12: 10
        -4
        Bombed and launched missile attacks from neighboring countries - these are two big differences :)
        1. Professor
          12 July 2013 12: 58
          +4
          Quote: Zopuhhh
          Bombed and launched missile attacks from neighboring countries - these are two big differences :)

          The 2007th year, they bombed a nuclear facility deeply penetrating into Syria.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 13 July 2013 00: 09
            +1
            2008, prof.
      2. IRBIS
        IRBIS 12 July 2013 12: 40
        0
        Quote: Professor
        There are no wars without losses, nevertheless, someone repeatedly bombed Syria without self-saving means.

        I agree with you. Only everything is somehow "rosy" with you. I'm not in terms of teasing and mocking, believe me. Syria is another story. Believe me, Israel will have time to regret it. Especially if Assad is removed.
        1. Professor
          12 July 2013 12: 56
          +3
          Quote: IRBIS
          And Syria is a separate story. Believe me, Israel will still have time to regret it. Especially if Assad is nevertheless removed.

          Israel is already crying with crocodile tears for mother Teresa Assad. We will not get Two wars with him, their support of terrorists, constant provocations, etc. What would happen now without them?

          "Self-fulfilling prophecy" of the Kremlin in Syria. Interview with political scientist Bertie
          How can various scenarios in Syria affect Israel?

          The Syrian civil war poses a threat to Israel’s security for many reasons. The war in Syria leads to instability in the border states with Israel. One of them is Lebanon, in which, due to the situation in Syria, relations between Shiites and Sunnis have worsened. While Shiites and Sunnis are fighting mainly in Syria, armed conflicts break out between them in Lebanon. In addition, Lebanon is in political paralysis. The confrontation almost deprived the country of a functional government. The situation in Syria has a negative effect on Jordan, which is doing everything to cope with the huge influx of refugees, and it is becoming increasingly difficult to solve this problem every day.

          The longer the war in Syria lasts, the more chances that the border between Syria and Israel will become like Sinai. For Israel, the Sinai in the Golan Heights is extremely dangerous. The more radical Islamists participate in the war, the more likely it is that some of them will be involved in terrorist activities against Israel.

          Israel is good at dealing with states, but dual power in Syria deprives Israel of such conventional methods of influence as intimidation. In addition, Syria has powerful stockpiles of chemical weapons. The lack of centralized authority raises concerns about which hands this weapon will fall into.

          Many in Israel are afraid of Islamists coming to power in Syria, but this threat is not as serious as it seems at first glance. The coming to power of the Islamists does not necessarily lead to aggression against Israel. In Egypt, for example, more recently, Islamists were in power, but they did not want a war with Israel. The Jewish state is quite comfortable with another neighboring Islamic regime, provided that it does not seek armed conflict. And such an aspiration is unlikely in the case of Syria, exhausted by the civil war.
      3. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 12 July 2013 20: 13
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        There are no wars without losses, nevertheless, someone repeatedly bombed Syria without self-saving means.

        Professor, as you usually say, proof in the studio, didn’t you even take a parachute with you?
        Cool article, Iran does not have kerosene.
        Ali Dekhkanian, head of the engineering and technical service of the Isfahan oil refinery, said that with the commissioning of new production facilities by the end of this year, the volume of aviation fuel production at the plant would reach 5 million liters per day.
        Earlier, Iranian kerosene did not meet the EURO-5 standard and did not go for export to Europe.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 13 July 2013 00: 10
          +2
          Iran has capacities. However, it is worth noting that they are limited, and most processing plants are outdated.
        2. Professor
          13 July 2013 09: 03
          +1
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          Professor, as you usually say, proof in the studio, didn’t you even take a parachute with you?

          The proof of the Turks was demonstrated in the form of a can (hanging fuel tank) with inscriptions in Hebrew.
          And the problems with fuel in Iran are not news. By the way, aviation kerosene is far from Euro-5.
  • viruskvartirus
    viruskvartirus 12 July 2013 10: 49
    0
    Iran is not a "whipping boy", it certainly has a number of military technologies and an efficient army. And if you look at the map, then Iran is solid mountains, a natural fortress.
  • Ross
    Ross 12 July 2013 10: 49
    0
    Quote: Yarbay
    *** Iran has limited access to procurement of new systems in Russia and China and is generally poorly prepared to repel the Israeli attack. *** -So what??))))))))))
    Such a shock that the professor reassures himself)))))))))))
    what to write this article about, I'd rather express my opinion with these words in the comments !!


    These are the very thoughts that this opus aroused in me!
  • Perch_xnumx
    Perch_xnumx 12 July 2013 10: 58
    +1
    Any Iranian aggression against Israel is suicide, if only because Israel has nuclear weapons, not to mention conventional weapons and the full support of America in case of aggression. Israel is prevented from living by someone at some stage being able to retaliate in the event of Israel’s sudden desire to bomb, as we see it in Syria. For the bombing of Iran, Israel needs intermediate airfields, air refueling, the countries that provide such sites automatically become allies of Israel and targets for retaliatory strikes. Comrade Professor forgot such a trifle as analyzing at which airfields they will land and how they will refuel.
    Israel has its own interests, but Russia has its own that are directly related to security. Iran is a stable, stable country. What do we see in countries democratized by America and its jackals, radical Islam, terrorism, banditry, the destruction of Gentiles, reprisals against the losing strona.
    So eat your bloody democracy yourself, just do not choke.
    1. Professor
      12 July 2013 11: 30
      +3
      Quote: Perch_1
      Comrade Professor forgot such a trifle as analyzing at which airfields they will land and how they will refuel.

      T. Professor did not write this article ...
      Nevertheless, they say that the Saudis and Azerbaijanis are ready to provide their airfields.
      1. Fetel
        Fetel 12 July 2013 14: 45
        -1
        However, most experts still believe that it will be extremely difficult for Israelis to conduct an operation against Iran on their own. They note that even the US Air Force, which has bases near the borders of Iran and a much wider arsenal of forces and assets, would not be easy to cause significant damage to existing nuclear facilities.

        "There is only one superpower in the world that can cope with this task. Israel is only good for pinpoint strikes here and there," summed up retired General David A. Deptula, a former US Air Force intelligence officer.
        - in short, the author of the article I D AND O T. Professor, on my own behalf I will express my wish for you not to translate such insanity anymore ... Better write an article about the Iranian S-300, which Israel did not want to see in Syria under a stupid and far-fetched pretext that they "will fall into the hands of the terrarians and ani will immediately take them over" wassat , and which, as they say, I don’t know whether this is true or not, has long been in Iran.
        1. Professor
          12 July 2013 15: 19
          +1
          Quote: FeteL
          in short, the author of the article ID&T T. Professor, I will express my own wish that you don’t translate such insanities anymore ...

          Refute the argument:
          Air Force Composition
          Combat readiness
          Air Defense Composition
          Etc.
          1. Fetel
            Fetel 12 July 2013 17: 38
            -2
            Professor, you are suggesting to me not to refute the obviously false information, but to actually supplement the article - that is, in fact, write my own personal review. Why the heck is it for me? I and others have already pointed out what is wrong in the article - it is incomplete and biased. It is one thing to write "Iranian Tor-Ms in such a lousy state that they are not even capable of driving" - here you can deny something, prove, finally post a photo of a brand new STAINLESS "Torah" in Iran ", and another thing is in your article, it is easy to keep silent about the "Torah" and about other air defense systems of Iranian air defense, as if Iran has no other air defense systems besides the "Hawk." despite the fact that they are not mentioned by you.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 13 July 2013 00: 11
              +2
              Do not refute. Just provide data that would testify to the real state of the Iranian Air Force.
            2. Professor
              13 July 2013 09: 05
              +1
              Quote: FeteL
              you offer me not to refute clearly false information, but to actually supplement the article

              No need to write an article, indicate in your comment in 30 lines
              Air Force Composition
              Combat readiness
              Air Defense Composition
              Etc.
              and less idle talk, and more numbers
      2. xetai9977
        xetai9977 12 July 2013 15: 58
        +5
        Azerbaijan will NOT provide airfields in any case. Firstly, the Israelis will fly and fly away, and we will live with the Iranians. Secondly, about 35% of the Iranian population are ethnic Azerbaijanis. Does it mean we will help to bomb them? Naturally, relations with Iran are strained, but not to such an extent.
        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 12 July 2013 16: 52
          +3
          In addition, the Iranian leadership managed to pursue such a foreign policy that it doesn’t have a good relationship with any of its neighbors. .
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          2. superbober71
            superbober71 13 July 2013 01: 41
            0
            obviously impudent nonsense. Iran has excellent relations with Armenia, quite friendly even with the Russian Federation, because the Russians are building NPPs for them and not for you, they have excellent relations with Pakistan and they are constantly selling gas, which really doesn’t please your Jewish owners. But Pakistan made it clear that in the event of a Zionist attack on Iran, it is ready to use ALL available means to protect its ally. so go ahead ...
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 13 July 2013 06: 14
      +1
      Quote: Perch_1
      What do we see in countries democratized by America and its jackals, radical Islam, terrorism, banditry, the destruction of Gentiles, reprisals against the losing strona.
      So eat your bloody democracy yourself, just do not choke.

      It was not for nothing that they said: "What is in health for a Russian, then death for a German." To paraphrase, "that an American (as well as an Israeli, a German, and other normal white people, to whom, I hope, you include Russians) is in good health, the Arab is ruined." Well, Islam is not combined with civilization.
      But, unfortunately, Washington does not want to understand this. They are thrilled by the word "democracy" as the Soviet leadership was thrilled by the word "socialism" or "non-capitalist path of development." Remember how socialism was built in Afghanistan and, if memory serves, in Nasser Egypt, and all other Asian-African-Latin American countries, and how did it end?
  • Boricello
    Boricello 12 July 2013 11: 08
    -1
    I don’t know how anyone, but I am satisfied with the hat-inspiring mood of the Jews. So people absolutely can not assess the situation and all the factors. And it will end badly for them. In general, when you read Jews you don’t understand or cry or laugh. The most honest, most intelligent and most invincible country. wink In general, Israeli statements remind me of Tobaccos from Mowgli. While the big brother next to them are heroes. But if 1 remain.?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 12 July 2013 11: 48
      +7
      Quote: Boricello
      While the big brother next to them are heroes. But if 1 remain.?

      Usually "big brother" slowed them down. In general, Israel has such an army that both Russia and Kazakhstan can only be quietly envious.
      And in terms of technical equipment and training of both military personnel and mob. the reserve is one of the best armies in the world. And it surpasses all the armies of its region by a head. So what about "shapkozakidatelstvo" you are at the wrong address
      1. Xnumx kopeek
        Xnumx kopeek 12 July 2013 11: 54
        -5
        Quote: Spade
        Quote: Boricello
        While the big brother next to them are heroes. But if 1 remain.?

        Usually "big brother" slowed them down. In general, Israel has such an army that both Russia and Kazakhstan can only be quietly envious.
        And in terms of technical equipment and training of both military personnel and mob. the reserve is one of the best armies in the world. And it surpasses all the armies of its region by a head. So what about "shapkozakidatelstvo" you are at the wrong address
        -
        taking into account the Jewish kipi and hats, one can declare the superiority of the Israeli army over all armies of the world by even 3 heads! with pace wassat
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 12 July 2013 12: 13
          +5
          Quote: 20 kopeek
          taking into account the Jewish kipi and hats, one can declare the superiority of the Israeli army over all armies of the world by even 3 heads! with wassat paise

          He is proud of you -
    2. Fetel
      Fetel 12 July 2013 14: 30
      -2
      Israel is really cool - as long as the West supports it. Remember how much resources came from abroad, from Western governments, from foreign Jewish communities during the Revolutionary War.
      He would have survived without the help of Britain, the USA and financial injections - a very big question with an obvious answer.
      1. Professor
        12 July 2013 14: 56
        +4
        Quote: FeteL
        Remember how much resources came from abroad, from Western governments, from foreign Jewish communities during the Revolutionary War.
        He would have survived without the help of Britain, the USA and financial injections - a very big question with an obvious answer.

        Enlighten in reality. How many? For one, compare with what the Arabs received. It will be interesting to read.
        1. Fetel
          Fetel 12 July 2013 15: 48
          -4
          So do you acknowledge the fact of supplies, supplies and assistance from Western countries and Jewish foreign communities to Izmail, or not? Recognize - I will specify how much. Do not recognize - make yourself a fool, because there were facts of help, and it turns out that you are denying objective reality))) It’s better not to say anything, you’ve stupidly purged this argument)))
          1. Professor
            12 July 2013 15: 54
            +3
            I admit, admit, but let the Arabs know you have helped and are helping more. Here is a story.

            Quote: FeteL
            It’s better not to say anything, you’ve thoughtlessly purged this argument)))

            How old are you? What a dispute? You have not given a single figure or argument. For your part, it's just a chatter.

            Quote: Professor
            He would have survived without the help of Britain, the USA and financial injections - a very big question with an obvious answer.

            I am especially interested in "helping" Britain to Israel (I emphasize Israel, not the Arabs). Enlighten, and we will laugh at this "help".
            1. Fetel
              Fetel 12 July 2013 17: 41
              -1
              I admit, I admit
              - as required.
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 13 July 2013 00: 19
                +4
                Once again - give an example of British aid to Israel in 1948, our illiterate witness.
              2. Professor
                13 July 2013 09: 10
                +1
                Quote: FeteL
                Q.E.D.

                Are you able to read the sentence to the end? How is it with Arab help? The help that the USSR and Russia received?
      2. Gooch
        Gooch 12 July 2013 14: 57
        +8
        Quote: FeteL
        Israel is really cool - as long as the West supports it. Remember how much resources came from abroad, from Western governments, from foreign Jewish communities during the Revolutionary War.
        He would have survived without the help of Britain, the USA and financial injections - a very big question with an obvious answer.

        In Russia, resources and money are also immeasurable, but it’s just not very clear, the resources and finances must be correctly managed, which Israel shows by example.
      3. Pimply
        Pimply 13 July 2013 00: 18
        +1
        BRITAIN ??? Given that half of the Arab armies were armed by Britain, the other half by France, and the British also scored with military advisers (one Jordanian Arab Legion is worth it). You are joking? Or the United States, which imposed an arms embargo on Israel ???

        Israel was saved by good personnel, the influx of a large number of Jews, developed infrastructure, and, to some extent, the support of the diaspora and volunteers.
        1. phantom359
          phantom359 15 July 2013 12: 29
          0
          Quote: Pimply
          BRITAIN ??? Given that half of the Arab armies were armed by Britain, the other half by France, and the British also scored with military advisers (one Jordanian Arab Legion is worth it). You are joking? Or the United States, which imposed an arms embargo on Israel ???

          Israel was saved by good personnel, the influx of a large number of Jews, developed infrastructure, and, to some extent, the support of the diaspora and volunteers.

          Forgot to add - and the Soviet Union. In particular, political support and a bit of military support. C 199 for example.
      4. Revolver
        Revolver 13 July 2013 07: 09
        +1
        Quote: FeteL
        Israel is really cool - as long as the West supports it. Remember how much resources came from abroad, from Western governments, from foreign Jewish communities during the Revolutionary War.

        Remember with gratitude. Especially Czechoslovakia. From there, the former German carbines Mauser-98, Schmeissers, MG-42, Messerschmitt 109 (well, really not the best Czech variation with the Junkers engine, but thanks for that), ammunition, and much more came to Israel. Now tell me, without the consent, but rather, even the instructions of Comrade Stalin, would the Czechs put at least one pistol cartridge?
        And the Naglichians, by the way, supplied the Arabs, and also everything from small arms to Spitfires. So by their mercy, Israel was a repetition of the "Battle of Britain" - the battles of the Messers against the Spitfires. Moreover, the English officers directly commanded the most combat-ready part of the Arabs - the Jordanian legion. If not for them, Israel would have received all of Jerusalem back in 1948. This is the question of British aid.
    3. Beck
      Beck 12 July 2013 22: 53
      +8
      Quote: Boricello
      So people absolutely can not assess the situation and all the factors. And it will end badly for them.


      If the Jews could not assess and predict, they would not have built the most powerful state in the region in 65 years. And Arabs and Jews started together in 1947. And where are the Syrians, Jordanians, Lebanese, Egyptians, and where are the Jews.

      And until now, the deplorable always ended for the neighbors of the aggressors, not for Israel.
  • ovgorskiy
    ovgorskiy 12 July 2013 11: 11
    0
    "Professor" issued something like a "battle sheet" "the enemy will not pass - the victory will be ours" for domestic consumption in Israel. It's not clear why we need this? Perhaps the author is right, but why do the rulers of Israel pay so much attention to Iran if it has no chance ??? Some Sahaks also constantly threaten Russia, and what, we need to hide under the table. Paying attention to especially talkative talkers is more expensive. And again, if everything is so bad in Iran, then how will they make an atomic bomb? After all, it will be more difficult to make it than an air defense missile? Contradiction or willful deception?
    1. Professor
      12 July 2013 13: 00
      +4
      Quote: ovgorskiy
      for domestic consumption in Israel.

      I repeat, the given resource in Israel is not read. Is it hard to realize?
      1. Fetel
        Fetel 12 July 2013 14: 27
        -3
        The information does not have to hang on only one resource, but your "battle sheet" came out for you - just in the spirit of Israeli jingoistic patriotism.
        But a repeat for you is only for domestic consumption in Israel.
        1. Professor
          12 July 2013 14: 58
          +3
          Quote: FeteL
          But a repeat for you is only for domestic consumption in Israel.

          You can repeat this stupidity as much as you like. In Israel, for the population they write in Hebrew.
          What is written in the article about the Air Force and Air Defense of Iran able to refute?
          1. Fetel
            Fetel 12 July 2013 15: 40
            -2
            Professor, I know what is written in Hebrew in Israel.
            For example, like on this forum: http://www.israel-forum.org/ - well, there’s such a Hebrew that there’s nowhere else to go, even I understand it even though I don’t know Hebrew))) Well, it's just complete Hebrew! ))))
            Will you find Israeli forums in English yourself, or will you order me to work?

            Regarding the nonsense in the article - tell us how you can refute the half-truth? That's when you write an OBJECTIVE analysis of the Iranian armed forces - then it will be possible to talk. In the meantime, the article does not fully disclose the topic, for example, even such a good complex as "Tor-M2E" is not mentioned in it. Even the S-200 are not mentioned, even the fact that they have undergone a serious modernization is not mentioned, what should I refute? Half-truths are worse than lies.


            Well - I actually meant that information can be presented on any forum in any country. You don’t have to be seven spans in your forehead to guess that it will be presented in the language of this country ... I thought you were a little smarter, although you certainly are the most, smartest and most cunning person in the world, right, Professor? ;)
            1. Professor
              12 July 2013 15: 49
              +2
              Quote: FeteL
              Well - I actually meant that information can be presented on any forum in any country. You do not have to be seven spans in the forehead to guess that it will be presented in the language of this country ...

              Blah blah blah...
              Where was this satya presented in Hebrew only for domestic consumption in Israel? It is in Hebrew and not in Russian, Amharic, Georgian or some other language of emigrant communities (in these languages ​​it is not there either)? Or even in English, but on an Israeli resource that is read by someone else besides me? fool

              PS
              Here is an example for domestic consumption only in Israel:
              IDF tested a long-range missile

              ניסוי: מערכת הנעה רקטית שוגרה מבסיס פלמחים
            2. zaazua
              zaazua 12 July 2013 17: 27
              +5
              about "Tor-M2E" speech was not conducted because there are dumb of them!
              29 complexes 9K331 "Tor-M1"
  • Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 12 July 2013 11: 11
    -2
    Quote: Perch_1
    Any Iranian aggression against Israel is suicide, if only because Israel has nuclear weapons, not to mention conventional weapons and the full support of America in case of aggression. Israel is prevented from living by someone at some stage being able to retaliate in the event of Israel’s sudden desire to bomb, as we see it in Syria. For the bombing of Iran, Israel needs intermediate airfields, air refueling, the countries that provide such sites automatically become allies of Israel and targets for retaliatory strikes. Comrade Professor forgot such a trifle as analyzing at which airfields they will land and how they will refuel.
    Israel has its own interests, but Russia has its own that are directly related to security. Iran is a stable, stable country. What do we see in countries democratized by America and its jackals, radical Islam, terrorism, banditry, the destruction of Gentiles, reprisals against the losing strona.
    So eat your bloody democracy yourself, just do not choke.

    -Bomb-
    /// - Wanting is not harmful. Let them once again bomb Syria with Syrian S-300 IDR toys /.-
    Iran has long had 30 s-300s. If not more / bought from Croats / -
    Now they are upgrading the S-200.
    -Make their air defense systems.
    - Generally - And do not confuse the Persians with the Arabs. Different genomes.
    / See the history, by the way, where the Persians always beat the Arabs /
    -
    etc-
  • Straus_zloy
    Straus_zloy 12 July 2013 11: 51
    +1
    What leads to underestimation of the enemy, there are a lot of examples in world history. Take, for example, the Russo-Japanese War, on the eve of which the Russian emperor contemptuously called the Japanese in his diaries "macaques"
    1. super.ufu2013
      super.ufu2013 12 July 2013 15: 53
      0
      both extremes are evil, and the test of them is war
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 13 July 2013 07: 33
      0
      Quote: Straus_zloy
      Take, for example, the Russo-Japanese War, on the eve of which the Russian emperor contemptuously called the Japanese in his diaries "macaques"

      Well, Nicholas had a personal tooth on the Japanese - some awesome samurai chopped him with a katana there, it’s good that in passing when he was still a prince on a visit. Paid for his personal whim, as always, Russian soldiers, sailors, and officers.
      Or maybe it would be better if the samurai did not miss. Mikhail would become king, and he, according to his contemporaries, was smarter than his brother. And certainly he wouldn’t marry a German with a hemophilia gene and would not bring Rasputin closer. And there would be no outrages of 1917.
      1. Beck
        Beck 13 July 2013 09: 53
        +3
        Quote: Nagan
        Or maybe it would be better if the samurai did not miss. Mikhail would become king, and he, according to his contemporaries, was smarter than his brother. And certainly he wouldn’t marry a German with a hemophilia gene and would not bring Rasputin closer. And there would be no outrages of 1917.


        I will continue a little. In general, the Japanese are to blame for most of the cataclysms of the 20th century. The Russian revolution began with them, the Bolsheviks came to power, the division of the world on ideological grounds, the cold confrontation of the two systems, the alarming expectation of a nuclear cataclysm.

        It would be better if the Japanese in the Battle of Tsushima did not sink half of the ships of Admiral Rozhdestvensky's 2nd Pacific squadron. It would be better if they would have sunk just one cruiser, how much easier life would be for the world in the 20th century. So no, this cruiser stayed afloat, survived. He returned home to the Baltic, and on October 25, 1917 at 21:40, he fired a fatal shot from a tank gun that turned the whole world over. If they had driven yaontsv, they probably would not have missed the cruiser Aurora.
  • smprofi
    smprofi 12 July 2013 12: 17
    +2
    Quote: Professor
    Only nuclear weapons are feared, since everyone here understands that Iran is a paper tiger.

    Well, in this regard, "there is an opinion" that Israel should fear not Syria and Iran, but Pakistan and Saudi Arabia
    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/tarek-fatah/israel-iran_b_3506504.html
    http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/2.294/in-face-of-iran-threat-saudi-arabia-mulls-nuc
    lear-cooperation-with-pakistan-1.383153
  • ed65b
    ed65b 12 July 2013 12: 17
    0
    before reading a quarter, I realized what her professor’s hand wrote. And therefore there’s nothing to discuss. Only one passage about the fuel of which Israel already has for the whole month of the war and 25000 thousand bombs speaks of the Georgian version of the war. Fast, and if it doesn’t work out and will be protracted? The author is modestly silent.
    1. superbober71
      superbober71 12 July 2013 21: 55
      -1
      yeah fast, just for the flight time of the horde of the Iranian balistic family ...
  • ed65b
    ed65b 12 July 2013 12: 21
    -1
    ptofessor. Representatives of Azerbaijan swear by their mother that they have an independent politician and no one decree to them. And they will not fight against Iran and will not allow anyone to use their territory.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 12 July 2013 13: 00
      +1
      Quote: ed65b
      Representatives of Azerbaijan swear by their mother that they have an independent politician and no one decree to them. And they will not fight with Iran and will not allow anyone to use their territory

      And where does Azerbaijan ??
    2. Professor
      12 July 2013 13: 02
      +3
      Quote: ed65b
      ptofessor. Representatives of Azerbaijan swear by their mother that they have an independent politician and no one decree to them. And they will not fight against Iran and will not allow anyone to use their territory.

      What is the relationship between independent politics and the provision of aerodromes? Azerbaijan also does not benefit from a nuclear neighbor with an unpredictable religious leadership. In this case, the interests coincide. I’m silent about the Saudis.
      1. ayyildiz
        ayyildiz 12 July 2013 13: 35
        +7
        No one benefits from a vigorous Iran in the region!
      2. Cheloveck
        Cheloveck 12 July 2013 18: 42
        0
        Quote: Professor
        What is the relationship between independent politics and the provision of aerodromes? Azerbaijan also does not benefit from a nuclear neighbor with an unpredictable religious leadership. In this case, the interests coincide. I’m silent about the Saudis.

        There is no connection?
        And do you have a desire to get a lyulyu for oil communications?
        Gave their territory - the allies - get it.
        Until now, I am surprised that Iraq at one time did not hammer on the Saudis.
        Fortunately, Iran is not Iraq.
    3. smersh70
      smersh70 12 July 2013 13: 04
      +1
      Quote: ed65b
      Representatives of Azerbaijan swear by their mother that they have an independent politician and no one decree to them. And they will not fight against Iran and will not allow anyone to use their territory.




      correctly! we have a lot of vector relations with all state partners, including with our neighbors ..... except of course Armenia ... although they were also offered to run an oil pipe through Armenia in the early 2000s ... didn’t agree .. take off God. ...
      and Iran is our neighbor - although our 30mln is there .. and there aren’t even elementary schools in our native language, all the same it is our neighbor !!!!!!!!!! t you need to be friends with him ... hi I swear by your cigar smile
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 12 July 2013 15: 05
        -2
        that's what I’m talking about. Yesterday, on the branch, they correctly said that the Jews would try to pull Azerbaijan into their squabbles. This is the first message.
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 12 July 2013 15: 18
          +2
          Quote: ed65b
          azerbaijan


          AZERBAIJAN !! for your information hi

          but from your words came out, quite the opposite !!!!!
          1. ed65b
            ed65b 12 July 2013 18: 07
            -2
            Do not go nuts, I am writing from a mobile.
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 13 July 2013 08: 38
            -1
            Quote: smersh70
            Quote: ed65b
            azerbaijan


            AZERBAIJAN !! for your information hi

            And he can see Mishani am learned. He also said something like "azebarzhan" all the time. I once looked at that Congress of People's Deputies.
            1. ed65b
              ed65b 13 July 2013 22: 09
              0
              Nagan you ..... (understand?).
              just wrote today koment which was interpreted yesterday. Rough tongue lick?
    4. Yarbay
      Yarbay 12 July 2013 13: 53
      +3
      Quote: ed65b
      And they will not fight against Iran and will not allow anyone to use their territory.

      You look at the map ???
      Why Israel for war with Iran Azerbaijan!
      One illiterate started a rumor, others picked up !!
      I personally for helping Israel !!
  • _KM_
    _KM_ 12 July 2013 12: 29
    0
    Put article plus. It is clear that we all cheer for Iran :-) but in fact, it will be very difficult for Israel to defeat it. It is more logical to continue to crush threats, forcing the opponent to spend more and more money on defense. The main thing is not to cross the line, after which Israel will preventively strike. Disclaimer: Israel can strike without threats against itself. So Iran should also develop its army, and not be limited to verbal attacks alone.
  • Ustian
    Ustian 12 July 2013 13: 21
    +1
    Meditative article with mantras like:
    Israel has
    ,
    Israel can
    ,
    Iran is trying
    ,
    Iran is facing
    ... AUM-M-M smile
  • Ustian
    Ustian 12 July 2013 13: 32
    +2
    A little off topic: Why do orthodoxes do not pay back their debt to the fatherland through military service? Will Israeli fighting women defend? request
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 12 July 2013 14: 37
      0
      Even the Professor will not answer this question.
      1. Professor
        12 July 2013 14: 59
        0
        Quote: Den 11
        Even the Professor will not answer this question.

        This is an elementary religious obscurantism.
        1. Ustian
          Ustian 12 July 2013 17: 15
          0
          Quote: Professor
          This is an elementary religious obscurantism.

          Potentially fifth column. sad
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 13 July 2013 08: 47
      0
      Quote: Ustian
      A little off topic: Why do orthodoxes do not repay a debt to the fatherland through military service?request


      Each nation has the right to have its own traditions. As Ben Gurion seemed to say (and maybe Herzl - I don't remember exactly) "Israel will only become a normal state when a Jewish policeman arrests a Jewish prostitute." Again, I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the quote, but the meaning is clear.
  • Fetel
    Fetel 12 July 2013 14: 22
    0
    I have not read such wild nonsense for a long time ...
    I am not saying that everything is OK in Iran, but not a word has been said about the latest Iranian air defense systems "Tor-M", nor about its helicopter or tank fleet, nor about its development of its own aircraft, in the whole article one thought is persistently imposed on "Jews cool peppers, and the troops of Iran g ... but ". It seems that you are reading a propaganda brochure before the start of the war. I would like to see from the Professor an OBJECTIVE assessment of the armed forces of Iran, and not the insanity of the type of garbage transferred by him.
    1. Professor
      12 July 2013 15: 05
      +1
      Quote: FeteL
      nor about his helicopter or tank fleet



      Quote: FeteL
      nor about his own aircraft development



      Quote: FeteL
      I would like to see from the Professor an OBJECTIVE assessment of the armed forces of Iran, and not insanity like the garbage transferred by him.

      April 1st has not yet arrived. In essence, are you (the composition and combat readiness of the Air Force and Air Defense of Iran) capable of reporting something?
      1. Fetel
        Fetel 12 July 2013 15: 29
        0
        April 1st has not yet arrived
        - so what are you, Professor, SUCH nonsense (I'm talking about your article) spread? Reread user comments, reading the majority opinion, you will become smarter.

        Iran’s tanks are T-72, and other Soviet ones are very good, helicopters are shahhed 285, Bell AH-1 Cobra, are these bad cars? But go on, I beg you - it's so sweet when you vibrate the most sloppy, in your opinion, examples and models of weapons and declare that all the Iranian armed forces are sloppy)

        Regarding the photo of the Iranian "KaKher" - you have successfully confirmed your reputation as a troll, professor, since you posted it, and not a photo of the Iranian-developed Azarakhsh fighter, well, I will do it for you.
        1. Professor
          12 July 2013 15: 40
          +3
          Quote: FeteL
          Iran’s tanks are T-72, and other Soviet ones are very good, helicopters are XHNUMX, Bell AH-285 Cobra, is it bad cars?

          Tanks are generally off topic, forty-year-old helicopters without corresponding spare parts, and how many are there? Do you have more photos to upload?

          Quote: FeteL
          Regarding the photo of the Iranian "KaKher" - you have successfully confirmed your reputation as a troll, professor, since you posted it, and not a photo of the Iranian-developed Azarakhsh fighter, well, I will do it for you.

          Well thanks, now Boogie nervously smokes on the sidelines. What do you call a modern fighter? Know how many of them were built?

          You would not be too lazy and looked in my articles for materials about Iranian fighters, there are not one or two articles there. hi

          Reread user comments, reading the majority opinion, you will become smarter.

          Specifically, the composition of the Iranian air force and so on. Is there anything to object to or will you continue to engage in verbiage?
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            1. Pimply
              Pimply 13 July 2013 00: 40
              -1
              Then write the truth. And back it up with data. Forward.
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 12 July 2013 16: 07
          +1
          Poured American light tactical F-5A "Tiger". Born in 1959. In service with Iran
          I don't think we can talk about an "Iranian-designed fighter"
        3. Revolver
          Revolver 13 July 2013 09: 10
          -1
          Quote: FeteL
          photo of an Iranian-designed fighter Azarakhsh,


          This one of yours, Azarakhsh, looks suspiciously like the F-5 Tiger, which was developed in the early 1960s, and was originally meant for export to poor countries that don’t get anything more expensive like Phantom and have no quality personnel.

          In terms of combat qualities, it was somewhere between the MiG-17 and MiG-21. Iran going to put IT against F-15? Truly, they are hoping for the help of Allah - well, with this help, the World War I Svich can PAK FA to smithereens and smashed in half, it just seems to me that the mullahs will not persuade Allah to personally intervene, even if they break all the floors in mosques with their foreheads.
          1. phantom359
            phantom359 16 July 2013 22: 50
            -1
            And what should he look like - F22? very funny.
    2. Ustian
      Ustian 12 July 2013 16: 51
      +1
      Quote: FeteL
      the latest Iranian air defense systems "Tor-M"

      I don’t know the truth or not, but In February, 2012 WikiLeaks published messages exchanged between employees of Stratfor Global Intelligence.
      One of the messages dated February 26 of the 2009 of the year concerned Russian-Israeli relations. According to Stratfor, Israel gave Russia information about UAVs delivered to Georgia, and in return received from the Russian side secret codes for Tor M-1 air defense systems delivered to Iran. Iran received 29 complexes at the end of the 2006 year. In the first case, we are probably talking about a data transmission system from UAVs to the operator
      (http://topwar.ru/30657-geopoliticheskaya-mozaika-saakashvili-schitaet-chto-puti
      n-uvazhaet-gruziyu-bolshe-chem-uvazhaet-ee-onischenko-a-transparency-internation
      al-utverzhdaet-chto-pravitelstva-teryayut-doverie-grazhdan.html)
  • Kir
    Kir 12 July 2013 14: 31
    +2
    Honestly, the article ......., you unpleasantly hit me Professor, I have a feeling that you are not an engineer but a hollow from agitprop, and with regards to Iran being caught in something, so I'm sorry if you sit down and rummage in the garbage bin that is called the Internet where the wind blows from the minke whales, you can find quite a few other sins. but it’s that kind of lyrics. another thing is why an Amersky article without critical reviews on your part as a person with a technical background and who has served and also lives in his historical Homeland, or do you entirely agree with this propaganda chatter?
    1. Professor
      12 July 2013 15: 13
      +2
      Quote: Kir
      or do you totally agree with this propaganda chatter?

      I completely agree with what is described in the article on the state of the Iranian Air Force and Air Defense. I even think that in reality things are even worse. I have repeatedly posted articles about Iran's "military achievements" and this is only a small part of what gets into the press. For example, it's no secret that Iran will experience fuel problems.
      1. Kir
        Kir 12 July 2013 15: 22
        -1
        An interesting movie, if you are sure of this, then what are the unbelted striped boors waiting for or like (sorry for not being politically correct) how many times we will send ordinary Jews in a certain direction, and then, under the banners of protecting the oppressed and other propaganda fornication, we will start bombing and in parallel search for someone even introduce sanctions, then forgive you that the cattle are being slaughtered by the Zaoken "friends", well then ....
        1. Professor
          12 July 2013 15: 41
          +1
          IMHO Obama fulfills the Nobel Peace Prize. He is a great peacemaker, and then the Americans are already in Iraq and Afghanistan.
      2. Fetel
        Fetel 12 July 2013 17: 45
        +1
        Then why the article does not mention the latest "Torah" and modernized S-200?
      3. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 12 July 2013 20: 59
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        . For example, it is no secret to anyone that Iran will experience problems with fuel.

        But at the expense of fuel, I would not say what kind of problems I need to clarify. And the Air Force, in comparison with Israel, is rather weak (to put it mildly), I would not have put it on them.
  • ed65b
    ed65b 12 July 2013 15: 08
    0
    Israel is reminiscent of a major boy who sitting in a Mercedes donated by a rich dad spits in all directions where the spit takes out and swears.
    1. super.ufu2013
      super.ufu2013 12 July 2013 15: 54
      +1
      well, he not only spits, he also waves his fists
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 13 July 2013 09: 23
        -2
        Quote: ed65b
        Israel is reminiscent of a major boy who sitting in a Mercedes donated by a rich dad spits in all directions where the spit takes out and swears.


        Quote: super.ufu2013
        well, he not only spits, he also waves his fists


        Waving, admittedly, not bad. Those who fell under the hand didn’t think so.
  • Cat
    Cat 12 July 2013 15: 10
    +1
    Threats to Israeli aircraft over Iran

    The first question that arises after reading the article: where, in fact, how do Israeli planes come from in the Iranian sky? What did they forget there? Don't fly over your territory, no one threatens them there =)
    1. smprofi
      smprofi 12 July 2013 16: 01
      0
      Quote: Cat
      Don't fly over your territory, no one threatens them there

      that nadis F-16 due to engine problems flopped into the sea. the crew, 2 people, were saved. but all F-15 and F-16 gringo productions were joked until the cause of the incident was clarified.
  • ed65b
    ed65b 12 July 2013 16: 00
    0
    frankly in a short war, Iran and Israel can not withstand it. The whole question is whether Israel will be limited only to air attacks or not? in case of pull
    Israel’s entry into a land-based mission will not be so unambiguous in terms of the damage caused to the attacker. Iran will certainly be defeated, but what price is Israel and the United States willing to pay for it? ”
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 13 July 2013 09: 39
      0
      Quote: ed65b
      Iran will certainly be defeated, but what price is Israel and the United States willing to pay for it? ”

      Some reasonable amount of jet fuel and anti-bunker bombs with guidance. Maybe also sea-based popeye cruise missiles. If America intervenes, then also "axes". I can’t name the exact number, but Iran will be enough to be thrown back into the Middle Ages. However, they have a place with their Islamist ideology in the Middle Ages.
      1. Totenkopff
        Totenkopff 14 July 2013 00: 20
        +1
        soon the whole of africa and the whole east will be there because of such after-effects as you and the jews. Only more accurate and how would we not be in their ranks ourselves, judging by recent events, we have not gone far from the Saudis. A totalitarian society interspersed with fag.
  • slaventi
    slaventi 12 July 2013 16: 12
    +3
    The Russian authorities are ready to offer Iran the Antey-2500 anti-aircraft missile systems to settle the dispute over the contract for the supply of S-300 systems.

    "We are talking about possible deliveries of Antey-2500 complexes to Tehran. They are a modified version of the S-300V system, developed at one time to meet the requirements of the air defense of the ground forces," sources close to the Russian system of military-technical cooperation (MTC) told the newspaper , and sources in the Kremlin confirmed.

    As the sources of the publication noted, the Antey-2500 complexes do not legally fall under Medvedev's decree.
    Antey-2500 is a serious threat to the Israeli Air Force in the skies of Iran.
  • fzr1000
    fzr1000 12 July 2013 16: 13
    0
    Iran still has such a thing. Sloppy came from Wiki, but still


    Karrar Attack UAV A large number of heavy attacking UAVs with a maximum payload of 1 tone. It is the main attacking UAV of the Iranian army.
    Ababil Impact UAV A large number of Medium ("midi") UAVs for reconnaissance and attack purposes.
    Sofreh Mahi Attack UAV At least 1 flying prototype. Developed in Iran, a heavy attacking UAV. It uses stealth technology. It was developed using technologies of foreign UAVs captured on its territory, including RQ-170 Sentinel technology.
    Mohajer 1,2,3,4 UAVs A large number A series of medium ("midi") Mohajer UAVs is designed for reconnaissance and targeting of laser ammunition to targets.

    Mohajer 1 is the first UAV developed in Iran. It was developed and entered service in 1985.

    Zohal UAV A large number of Micro UAVs of vertical take-off for tactical reconnaissance.
    A1 UAVs Significant number of Promising medium reconnaissance UAVs.
    Shaparak UAV Significant number of promising medium reconnaissance UAVs.
    Ra'd UAVs A significant number of Advanced Medium Reconnaissance UAVs.
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 12 July 2013 16: 36
    +1
    I went to waronline see what they think on this topic, so there are assessments of the capabilities of the Air Force AOI
    much more modest than in the article translated by the professor.
    According to them, without taking into account tankers, scouts, UAVs and military vehicles, the Air Force will be able to put up to 150 shock machines against Iran. 4 squadrons of F-16I and one each F-15I and F-15C / D. This, of course, is not enough given the territory of Iran and the location of nuclear facilities at great depths.
    1. Fetel
      Fetel 13 July 2013 00: 05
      +1
      Now the Professor will hate you for this post)))
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 13 July 2013 10: 11
      +1
      Iran has repeatedly stated that in the event of a strike on its territory, no matter who inflicted it, the response will fly to American bases in the Persian Gulf. And Uncle Sam will be offended by this. How many AUG are there, 2 or 3? And this is at least 3 dozen F-18s each, plus escort with "axes". I do not think that it will come to strategic aviation, but if it does, the B-52s have not forgotten how to roll carpets, and there are also B-1 and B-2. In general, polar chanterelles will start in Iran. But Obama does not want to fight yet, and Bibi is holding his "friend" by the collar. How long will this unwillingness be enough for him? I don’t know, and again, if it turns out that the mullahs are close to acquiring the bomb, Obama may not be able to keep Bibi.
    3. Professor
      13 July 2013 10: 24
      0
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      I went to waronline see what they think on this topic, so there are assessments of the capabilities of the Air Force AOI
      much more modest than in the article translated by the professor.
      According to them, without taking into account tankers, scouts, UAVs and military vehicles, the Air Force will be able to put up to 150 shock machines against Iran. 4 squadrons of F-16I and one each F-15I and F-15C / D. This, of course, is not enough given the territory of Iran and the location of nuclear facilities at great depths.

      There is no contradiction, do not confuse the number of aircraft with the number of sorties. And this is also mentioned in the article.
  • Cheloveck
    Cheloveck 12 July 2013 16: 38
    0
    Damn, what terrible Jews !!!!!!
    Already takes the horror. lol
    Hmm ...
    1. phantom359
      phantom359 16 July 2013 22: 53
      0
      Quote: Cheloveck
      Damn, what terrible Jews !!!!!!
      Already takes the horror. lol
      Hmm ...

      And then. Well, very scary.
  • Boricello
    Boricello 12 July 2013 17: 30
    +2
    Quote: FeteL
    I am not saying that everything is OK in Iran, but not a word has been said about the latest Iranian air defense systems "Tor-M", nor about its helicopter or tank fleet, nor about its development of its own aircraft, in the whole article one thought is persistently imposed on "Jews cool peppers, and the troops of Iran g ... but ".

    Why write that ?. The professor has repeatedly written that all Russian weapons are r ... but .... And the Jewish rulez is forever. The article is most likely just a provocation of a professor wink . No one has any doubt that the army of Israel is stronger than the army of Iran. This is a fact that no one disputes. But there is always a but. Recall the Iraqi company. Almost all of Iraq’s command staff sold out for American paper and Iraq was rolled out in a short time. But there was a but !!!! Falluja. With all the technical superiority of the coalition forces, they were able to defeat only after the use of banned phosphorus weapons. In the end, it’s not the technology that fights, but the people. and woe to the Jews if in Iran there will be at least 5 such Fallujas.
    (Oh look at me now my real rank on the forum, foreman wink )
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 12 July 2013 17: 40
      +2
      In the end, it’s not the technology that fights, but the people. and woe to the Jews if in Iran there will be at least 5 of such Fallujas.

      Are you kidding me? What Falluja? The Israeli - Iranian conflict can only be a missile.
      1. Xnumx kopeek
        Xnumx kopeek 12 July 2013 23: 22
        -2
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        ]
        Are you kidding me? What Falluja? The Israeli - Iranian conflict can only be a missile.

        "That's the thing, it's in the air. And there Israel will be uncomfortable. Yes, and on the ground too. So you have to dig a tunnel - Tel Aviv-Tehran. And crawl."
    2. Professor
      13 July 2013 09: 18
      +1
      Quote: Boricello
      The professor has repeatedly written that all Russian weapons are r ... but ....

      Examples in the studio, you our nonsense.
  • smprofi
    smprofi 12 July 2013 17: 49
    +1
    hehehe heehee, and Israel is successfully advancing in the creation of a ballistic missile. the range is likely to be quite large (enough to reach Iran) because the civilian Shavit, for example, is able to put the satellite into orbit.
    today's test run:

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      1. Beck
        Beck 12 July 2013 23: 05
        +7
        Quote: superbober71
        in general, this suggests that the Jews have a device capable of delivering a nuclear warhead to anywhere in the world ... but something is not heard howling representatives of the mattress about it


        So you do not know the whole reason why the world community may not want Iran to have nuclear weapons. The agreement on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons was signed by all countries and at the same time assumed certain obligations. Here is the world community and wants Iran to fulfill its obligations.

        The contract was not signed by three countries - India, Pakistan, Israel. Therefore, they have no obligations, and de jure no one can blame them for something. That is why these countries have their own nuclear weapons.

        And no less important. These countries, their leaders have never spoken, and the words of the leaders are officialdom, that it is necessary to wipe out a state from the face of the earth, that some people must be destroyed. They did not announce to the world what to build, the New Islamic Order in the whole world. They did not say that the United States is big Satan, Russia is small and they need to be slaughtered.

        And the ayatollahs spoke. If you like the New Islamic Order in the future, then now get ready for circumcision.
        1. Fetel
          Fetel 13 July 2013 00: 04
          +1
          Beck, and you turn out to be a jerk.
          To begin with, the agreement on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons DOES NOT ALLOW countries to develop their own nuclear weapons, it prohibits transferring it to other countries. And to have one’s own nuclear weapons is Iran’s holy right, because Israel took possession of it?
          By the way, Iran did not say that it was going to destroy Israel, enough to quote fake.
          And, if you do not know, the only country in the world that uses atomic bombs to destroy cities with civilians is America.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 13 July 2013 00: 18
            +2
            Quote: FeteL
            Beck, and you turn out to be a jerk.
            To begin with, the agreement on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons DOES NOT ALLOW countries to develop their own nuclear weapons, it prohibits transferring it to other countries.

            I would not be so categorical.

            http://www.un.org/ru/documents/decl_conv/conventions/npt.shtml

            Each of the non-nuclear-weapon States parties to this Treaty shall not accept the transfer from anyone of nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices, nor the control of such weapons or explosive devices, either directly or indirectly; not to produce or acquire in any other way nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices, nor to seek or accept any assistance in the production of nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices.


            And Iran has signed this agreement. So, it has no right to have its own nuclear weapons
          2. Beck
            Beck 13 July 2013 00: 36
            +5
            Quote: FeteL
            Beck, and you turn out to be a jerk.


            M-yeah. Not knowing the essence yet and call names. Read the contract and I think if you are not ashamed, it will be embarrassing. The agreement directly prohibits those countries that have signed it from striving to possess nuclear weapons and military atomic technologies. And Russia, the USA, China, England, France should transfer nuclear weapons and technology to someone.

            Quote: FeteL
            By the way, Iran did not say that it was going to destroy Israel, enough to quote fake


            Himself in the news releases saw and heard how Ahmadinejad said this.

            Quote: FeteL
            And, if you do not know, the only country in the world that uses atomic bombs to destroy cities with civilians is America.


            I once wrote, I will repeat for you.
            When US troops took Okinawa, questions arose of landing troops on the Japanese islands proper. The General Staff of the American army calculated, in connection with the statement of the Japanese government, that Japan would fight until the last soldier, that the war could drag on for another year and a half. That the losses of the American army can reach one million, the Japanese army up to 3 million, the civilian population of Japan up to 5 million. And what is a military strategy is to achieve victory in the shortest possible time with minimal losses. The US government was faced with the dilemma of whether or not to use nuclear weapons. After all, atomic weapons will not be kept a secret for a century. And then the mother will be asked the mother of the million dead American soldiers - How, having a powerful weapon and the ability to quickly end the war, you put a million of our sons. USA used weapons. 200 thousand people died, but about 8 million remained alive and the war ended in a week's time.

            If in November 1941, when the Nazis besieged Moscow, Soviet aviation carried out atomic bombing of two German cities, I would not mind. Because the war would have ended with the surrender of Germany in December 1941 and there were no 20 million dead Soviet people and 50 million in Europe.

            You aren’t just an idler, can you answer me without the stamps of communist propaganda?
            1. Fetel
              Fetel 13 July 2013 10: 35
              +1
              Yes, with the agreement on nuclear weapons, I got pierced, I admit. But Iran does not create its own nuclear weapons, whatever the shakers of test tubes with white powder would say. And if he creates it, it’s not so long to get out of it, just as the DPRK did, picking up its bomb — it just left without any problems.

              Regarding Iran -
              Himself in the news releases saw and heard how Ahmadinejad said similar
              - Do you own Farsi that you understood everything without translation? http://www.1in.am/rus/a_a_18546.html Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy, Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Dan Meridor, in an interview with Al-Jazeera, acknowledged that the famous quote about “the need to erase Israel from the world map” , often attributed to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has in fact never been uttered.
          3. Pimply
            Pimply 13 July 2013 00: 41
            +1
            Each of the non-nuclear-weapon States parties to the Treaty undertakes not to accept the transfer from anyone of any nuclear and / or other nuclear explosive devices, or to control them either directly or indirectly; as well as not producing or acquiring in any other way nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices and not accepting any assistance in their production.
          4. Professor
            13 July 2013 09: 25
            0
            Quote: FeteL
            By the way, Iran did not say that it was going to destroy Israel, enough to quote fake.

            To study, study and study again ... Although in your case this is unlikely to help.
            Transcript: Iran President ?? s speech threatening Israel
            Iran's President Says Israel Must Be 'Wiped Off the Map'
    2. superbober71
      superbober71 12 July 2013 22: 45
      -1
      Quote: smprofi
      for civil Shavit, for example, is able to put a satellite into orbit.
      today's test run:

      in general, this suggests that the Jews have a device capable of delivering a nuclear warhead to anywhere in the world ... but something is not heard howling representatives of the mattress about it
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 13 July 2013 00: 45
        -1
        And there is a very long time. However in Israel

        a) There is a serious system of balances - in particular, a powerful judicial system, the only real democracy in the BV, and a free press. The system does not cause serious concern among the main players. So that
        b) Israel did not sign one small treaty, and did not violate its provisions.