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North Caucasian redistribution. Russia is still reaping the sad fruits of the Khrushchev territorial administrative reforms

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North Caucasian redistribution. Russia is still reaping the sad fruits of the Khrushchev territorial administrative reformsExactly 50 years ago, just in time for the beginning of the second half of 1963, the “redrawing” of the borders of the regions, territories and autonomous republics of the Lower Volga region and the North Caucasus ended.


This “great repartition” was launched in the second half of 1950's. in connection with the restoration of a number of autonomous republics and regions, abolished in the middle of 1940. But still it seems that the main goal of the reform was still not the optimization of the administrative-territorial arrangement of such a significant for the country of the region. So, in 1956-1963. the territory of the Stavropol Territory was cut by almost a third, with the result that the region was “moved away” from the coast of the Caspian Sea. The Krasnodar Territory and the Stalingrad Region decreased by 13-15%, and the territory of the Astrakhan Region decreased by more than two thirds.

Decrees of the Presidium of the Supreme Council of the RSFSR in April 1962 and in February-June 1963 finally determined the interdistrict borders in the North Caucasus and Lower Volga national autonomies. By these acts, the central authorities secured the belonging of many Russian regions to the same national autonomies. But before these republics (and other administrative entities) in the second half of 1940. (Checheno-Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Kalmykia, Adygea, etc.) were abolished; these regions did not exist in their composition.

As part of Dagestan, for example, was a vast area located on the coast of the Caspian Sea with a predominantly Russian population.
Previously, it was partly part of the Stavropol, Astrakhan and Grozny regions of the RSFSR: these are the Caspian Kizlyar and Tarumovsky districts of present-day Dagestan. And not only all the Caspian regions of the Astrakhan region, but also some of the Volga regions of this region, as well as the Stalingrad region and Stavropol, were included in Kalmykia.

Something similar was observed in the early to mid-1920 years, when, for example, Petrovsk-port became Makhachkala (in honor of the Dagestan Bolshevik); Kamennomostsky was renamed Khadzhokh (in the south of the present Adygea), Vladikavkaz - in Dzaudzhikau, Stepnoi - in the city of Elista (Kalmykia); the resort town of Sernovodsk was transferred to the Mountain Autonomy (later Chechen-Ingushetia).

At that time, extensive native Russian territories were incorporated into many autonomous, union republics, national circles, etc.

And in 1930 - 1940. Only some of the boundaries between autonomies and Russian regions / territories, as well as some names of cities and territories, were restored in the former “reading”. In 1956-1963 The 1920's campaign, albeit on a slightly smaller scale, was actually repeated.

The author does not at all advocate a new redistribution of Russian borders, since he is well aware of the negative consequences that this may have. Nevertheless, it should be emphasized that all previous divisions, starting with 1920, infringed upon the interests of mainly Russian and Russian speakers, which today affects the socio-economic situation in these areas. As for the North Caucasus itself, the very favorable attitude of the “center” to an increase in the territory of the restored national autonomies allowed their leadership, what is called, to dictate a policy towards the entire North Caucasus.

In particular, direct and indirect subsidies from the RSFSR budget in the North Caucasus from the middle of 1950-x were distributed as follows: 65-75% were directed to national autonomies, the rest to Russian regions and territories.
As a result, the facts of overt Russophobia were increasingly manifested there, and alienation between Russians and representatives of North Caucasian nationalities grew (especially in Chechen-Ingushetia, in a number of districts of Dagestan, Kalmykia). In the middle of 1950-x - mid-1980-x, more than half of Russians and Russian-speaking residents who lived there in 1944-1956 left the region, including Kalmykia. Here is an excerpt from the report of the North Caucasus Federal District “The North Caucasus is the Russian factor (2012):“ ... For the first time, the decline in the number of Russians in the North Caucasus was noted already since the 60 of the last century, prompted by the return of Chechens and other deported ethnic groups after rehabilitation 1956 year. An important signal in this regard was the “Chechen unrest” of the 1958 of the year, which occurred immediately after the “Khrushchev's” rehabilitation of the peoples evicted during the Great Patriotic War and had a clear ethnic nature. These events clearly demonstrated that ethnicity as a factor is present in Soviet reality, and ignoring it promises the most serious consequences. From the same moment, there has been a gradual reduction in the share of the Russian population in Chechen-Ingushetia, which by the 1970 year was 14,5%. ”

It is not surprising that the economy and social sphere of the “ex-Russian” regions gradually came into neglect, unlike other territories, in the national autonomies. Say, the degradation of agricultural land remains today the maximum (up to 70-80% of the area) in precisely those areas of national autonomy that were transferred to them in the middle of 1950-x and the beginning of 1960-x. Perhaps the most striking example of this is the Black Earth (Caspian) region of Kalmykia, which until the middle of the 1950. Partly was part of the Astrakhan region and Stavropol. It can be said that from the end of 1950, similar problems accompany the socio-economic situation, in particular, northern (Caspian) Dagestan and Kizlyarshchina (north-western Dagestan), more precisely, the territories that were disconnected from the Grozny region and Stavropol the edges.

According to the Kumyk Mir Research Foundation (2012), when transferring a number of territories to Dagestan “... the opinion of the local old-Russian Russian population was not taken into account, despite the fact that it constituted an absolute majority. And the accession of the Kizlyar region was motivated by the fact that national minorities, which were not even specifically named, feel not very comfortable there, that ... they are organically alien to the Russians in terms of spiritual and material culture ... ” Moreover, it is especially noted that “the inclusion of Kizlyarschina with the Russian population living in Dagestan since the XNUMXth century was contradictory historical Act: since the expansion of the administrative borders of the autonomous republic in Soviet times was perceived there as an expansion of ethnic borders. Later, as a result of the settlement of the Kizlyar region by settlers from the mountains, relations between the indigenous population and the highlanders became more complicated. And this problem requires its resolution ... "

The aforementioned “expansion of ethnic borders” is not an exaggeration.

The rapid growth in the number of autochthonous population from the middle of the 1950-s in the same Chechen-Ingushetia, primarily in Dagestan, soon demanded "additional" territories and in adjacent regions, especially in Stavropol.
According to Maya Aliyeva (Stavropol), an expert at the Center for Migration Studies of the Russian Federation, “in 1960-1970 the migration of the peoples of Dagestan to the Stavropol region intensified. Here, the Dagestanis resettled in those areas where sheep farming was the main specialization. Due to this, in the eastern districts of the region the number of visitors from neighboring Dagestan grew rapidly. Large Dagestani families intensively settled on new places, compactly concentrating in such areas as Neftekumsky, Levokumsky, Arzgirsky, Turkmen ”(east and northeast of Stavropol in its new, reduced, end 1950 years. - A. B.).

Or here is a typical example: April 28 1962 To the Maikop (metropolitan) district of the Adygei Autonomous Region, by order from Moscow, the territory of the Tula District of the Krasnodar Territory was attached. What has increased the territory of Adygea, located inside the Krasnodar Territory, but autonomous from it, almost by half.

Moreover, up to 80% of the population of this area and today are Russian (up to the middle of 1960-x - almost 90%). Appeals of the Krasnodar Regional Administration and local residents about this decision by the “center” were not taken into account.

Well, how the fate of the Russian and Russian-speaking population in the Chechen-Ingush Republic is well known. Back in 1958, this population, for the most part, strongly protested against the actual anti-Russian policies of local and central authorities. And this opposition ended with interethnic actions and the use of military force, mainly against Russians and Russian-speakers in Grozny. In short, there is every reason to assert that many socio-economic problems in the North Caucasus and the Lower Volga region stem from distortions in the national-administrative and socio-economic policy of the “Khrushchev’s” leadership in the middle of the 1950s - early 1960s. Today we can only ascertain this fact.
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  1. My address
    My address 12 July 2013 07: 44
    +8
    Well, as a LADY brings a "fresh stream" into everything that he does not understand, so Khrushchev left a trace. The one itched, this one itches.
  2. 12061973
    12061973 12 July 2013 07: 52
    +4
    they are leaving Kalmykia because of the depressed economy, the Kalmyks’ attitude to the Russians is good, moreover, the local authorities emphasize this in every possible way, there is an unwritten order to take Russians to the leading work, solve the housing problem in the first place, even to the detriment of the case. In some cases, the school director instead of the New Year's matinee rented the room to the gypsies for a wedding, they decided to dismiss her, in response she began to write letters everywhere, including to Putin that she was dismissed on a national basis.
  3. mark1
    mark1 12 July 2013 07: 52
    20
    Was there anything without distortions in Khrushchev's activities? Perhaps this is the most real of all the "enemies of the people" of the period of the 30s - 60s (at the genetic level)
    1. luka095
      luka095 12 July 2013 08: 44
      +9
      Of all the "enemies of the people," he simply not only survived, but also achieved power in the country.
      Hence all the results of his activities.
      1. Canep
        Canep 12 July 2013 09: 59
        10
        Khrushchev’s redistribution of borders in the North Caucasus is an innocent prank compared to transferring Crimea to Ukraine.
        1. laurbalaur
          laurbalaur 13 July 2013 01: 19
          -6
          actually, Comrade Khrushchev, on the issue of transferring the Crimean Peninsula, was guided by geo-geopolitical options for resolving issues, gentlemen, Russian invaders, justify, to hell with you, this unfortunate peninsula (well, you don’t have what you can keep there and intimidate whole region)!
  4. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign 12 July 2013 08: 02
    10
    The Russian people are a system-forming factor in the existence of a multinational state: the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union, and the Russian Federation. This should always be remembered by those who are in power in the state.
    The system of distortions in the national policy and the administrative-territorial activity resulting from it, as follows from the article, developed in the 20-30s. This situation can not be redone - what has passed, then passed.
    The blow to Russia, which was inflicted by the "corn leader" after being in power in the Soviet Union, is a tragedy for the entire Russian people.
    There is practically no activity to correct the situation. Various meetings, round tables, conferences, etc. they cannot raise a specific question before the country's leadership about rectifying the situation in this area and working out acceptable solutions.
    In fact: all the efforts of state structures are aimed at solving exclusively economic issues in the form of pumping up the North Caucasus region with finances, which are successfully "mastered" by the national elites.
    On the other hand, more than one generation of Russians and representatives of the mountain peoples has grown up in this situation. People simply cannot imagine how they can live differently on these lands.
    The events of the 90s, two military campaigns, the ongoing struggle against terrorism in the region, have solved and are solving any questions, but not questions of the genocide of the Russian population, questions of eliminating the previous miscalculations of the country's leadership in terms of national, demographic, administrative -territorial activity.
    How long? ..
    1. smile
      smile 12 July 2013 14: 11
      +5
      Terrible ensign
      I think the country's leadership is frantically trying to somehow solve this problem. at least stabilize the situation without making sudden movements, fraught with a chain reaction throughout Russia. Although the results of activities, something is not visible ...
      I believe that one of the directions of activity should be systematic pressure on the authorities of the republics with the aim of forcing them to pursue the same policies towards the Russians as Germany regarding the Jews. Moreover, with their own hands, up to linking financing with the situation of the Russian-speaking population (I will not list the factors, everything is clear to everyone).
      Tight hard work is needed with the diasporas, with their informal leaders — let them curb their young ones themselves — if they cannot, let them take them out, as during recent events. Pressure-legal methods complicate their business activities ... beat the well-being of the informal leadership of the diasporas ... to make it impossible, in the case of the arrogant actions of their youth, normal business ... for example, in case of non-surrender of the offender, disrupt the normal operation of the enterprises belonging to them. ..this is quite possible to do under Russian law ...
      In Chechnya, the introduction of world lessons or a special history course according to a specially created program with an explanation of the crime of the actions of their fellow tribesmen, examples of their inhumanity, praise of those who saved the Russians and obstructed the examples that their welfare and development became possible only thanks to the Russians, that everyone who fought for Ichkeria actually acted in the interests of our common enemies. education of their complex of guilt, not a winner, etc ...

      I believe that the author, who just kicked Khrushchev, overlooked that without perestroika, when the Russian people, it is clear from whose submission, were branded as an occupier, without the collapse of the country, which was actively helped by our potential friends. without the CIA's "Enslaved Nations" program, which had been working since the XNUMXs, the land mines laid by Khrushchev would not have detonated anything!
  5. 225chay
    225chay 12 July 2013 08: 51
    +3
    Quote: Scary ensign
    The events of the 90s, two military campaigns, the ongoing struggle against terrorism in the region, have solved and are still solving any questions, but not questions of the genocide of the Russian population,

    Surely someone planned. Nothing just happens.
  6. Avenger711
    Avenger711 12 July 2013 09: 08
    +4
    Redo back. The problems of the nationalities do not care for us, without the Russians they would still have lived in villages without basic amenities, like blacks in Africa.
    1. omsbon
      omsbon 12 July 2013 11: 13
      +3
      I am with you with my soul, but the brain believes that nothing can be returned or redone back without big blood!
  7. Airman
    Airman 12 July 2013 09: 09
    +5
    Khrushchev really wanted to show the whole world how excellently we are solving the national question. So he "GIVEN" Crimea to Ukraine, almost doubled the territory of Kazakhstan at the expense of the RSFSR, to show that it surpasses the territory of France, and muddied it up in the Caucasus. Populist.
    1. Basileus
      Basileus 12 July 2013 14: 34
      0
      This is when Kazakhstan expanded due to the RSFSR?
      1. Essenger
        Essenger 12 July 2013 22: 34
        +2
        Quote: Basileus
        This is when Kazakhstan expanded due to the RSFSR?


        I am also interested, I remember that the Orenburg region was transferred to the RSFSR and Karakalpakstan to the Uzbek SSR. In addition, Orenburg was the first capital of Kazakhstan.
        1. Basileus
          Basileus 15 July 2013 08: 03
          0
          Orenburg, however, has always been Russia. As far as I remember, the center of the Kazak Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic was at first Kyzyl-Orda, and Orenburg, the historical center of the southern steppes, was transferred to the RSFSR as soon as it was finished with the post-revolutionary administrative leapfrog.
          1. Essenger
            Essenger 15 July 2013 15: 45
            +2
            Orenburg is the capital of the Kyrgyz Aut, then it was renamed into Kazak and then into the Kazakh SSR.
    2. Essenger
      Essenger 12 July 2013 14: 44
      +2
      Quote: Povshnik
      The territory of Kazakhstan


      Why are the names of my country written in small letters?
      1. smile
        smile 12 July 2013 15: 37
        +2
        Essenger
        Yeah. then there are no complaints in the comment text itself? :))))
        And about the letter, maybe it’s not worthwhile, out of nationalist motives, to petty find fault with letters? Moreover, this is clearly a typo ... at the same time, you can thank us that thanks to the Russians, a single, so large and developed Kazakhstan has appeared ... :)))) We are waiting for thanks. :))))
        1. Essenger
          Essenger 12 July 2013 16: 22
          -1
          Quote: smile
          clearly typo


          I do not think that the typo is obviously deliberately made to show my dismissive attitude towards Kazakh statehood.

          Quote: smile
          thanks to Russians, a single, so large and developed Kazakhstan appeared


          This is a controversial statement. In Kazakhstan, we have a circle of certain people who want to chop off the territories of neighboring countries.
          1. smile
            smile 12 July 2013 19: 06
            +1
            Essenger
            Well, I don’t know ... in my opinion, you are mistaken ....
            I believe, to argue with the fact that the territory of the Kazakh SSR was formed precisely in the USSR, and then. after the collapse of the Union, it began to belong to the Kazakhs ... somewhat unreasonable .... in the same way as with the fact that even in the Republic of Ingushetia the territories from which they later formed the Kazakh SSR were well developed, it was not a colony, but an ordinary territory empire, distinguished, for example, from the Ryazan region only by the presence of a sufficiently large number of benefits for residents .... No. I’m not saying that we are lambs, and you’re all-bats there ... but you shouldn’t even speak like that ...

            But about the fact that you have those there who still want to chop off something, to be honest, I learned for the first time from you ... curious ...
            1. Essenger
              Essenger 13 July 2013 02: 40
              +3
              Quote: smile
              I think you're wrong


              Each has its own truth. Of course, my views do not coincide with yours. That's what I love pluralism for.
              1. smile
                smile 13 July 2013 03: 26
                +1
                Essenger
                And here is your lie ... our points of view do not coincide far from unconditionally .... it is entirely possible that we have identical points of view on the same problems, on the same moral values ​​... and it doesn’t matter what sometimes we can’t find consensus in a petty dispute ... if we are normal, we will always agree ... always! It would be a desire ... I have it .... you also do not look like a ram .... therefore, be sure to agree! Above the nose, not everything is so bad! ....
        2. Alibekulu
          Alibekulu 14 July 2013 10: 42
          0
          Quote: smile
          We are waiting for thanks. :)))

          And you wouldn’t go ... with your thanks ..
          You yourself are not tired of repeating this mantra))
          a large number of benefits for residents ...
          I, as I understand the famine of 20-30, when 40% of Kazakhs, polygons and the Gulag camp system and many others were killed - does this apply to benefits for which you, smart guy, should be thanked ?? laughing
          1. Basileus
            Basileus 15 July 2013 08: 05
            0
            But was there only famine in Kazakhstan? To listen to newly independent states, so only the Kazakhs and Ukrainians were starved by hunger. And in the RSFSR everyone lived perfectly, ate enough of food, they did not catch enemies of the people there and did not build landfills. Would be ashamed.
            1. Alibekulu
              Alibekulu 15 July 2013 09: 29
              0
              Quote: Basileus
              Would be ashamed.
              I don’t understand why we should be ashamed? Here I have a question for you, why do not you write smile which makes all nonsense about gratitude here ..
              And, if you look at the branch, the Russians are the first to start weaving all kinds of nonsense for Kazakhstan. And, the comments of the Kazakhs are just a "response" ...
              Quote: Basileus
              And in the RSFSR everyone lived perfectly, ate enough of food, they did not catch enemies of the people there and did not build landfills.
              Give me my comments, where I wrote that everything was fine in the RSFSR ??
              1. Basileus
                Basileus 15 July 2013 09: 59
                0
                Why be ashamed? Breaking facts out of context. None of the examples you cited was specifically directed against Kazakhstan - that was EVERYWHERE.

                And there is something to thank. Or was there a developed industry in Kazakhstan before Zhuzov joined Russia? Personnel?
    3. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu 14 July 2013 10: 35
      +1
      Quote: Povshnik
      , The territory of Kazakhstan almost doubled due to the RSFSR

      So, the anti-aircraft gunner facts in the studio .. Do not breed crap .. Sometimes I advise you to read books ..
  8. nepopadun
    nepopadun 12 July 2013 09: 14
    +4
    Is that why Duggy can't live normal?
  9. Igor39
    Igor39 12 July 2013 09: 45
    +1
    When already there will put a wall and towers with machine guns.
  10. raja666
    raja666 12 July 2013 10: 08
    +5
    Khrushchev was part of the program for the destruction of the USSR historical facts speak for themselves.
  11. Sergey13
    Sergey13 12 July 2013 10: 12
    +3
    Reshape in a new way! Dag, Chechens, Karachais and other donkeys .... to determine places of compact residence, with the abolition of national republics and autonomies, and let the sheep graze! Why did our ancestors shed blood for the Caucasian land? What would these, whom we taught to go to the toilet while standing, now feel like masters? Create the North Caucasian province or region, according to the present. For any violation of the law, FOR ANYONE! plant FOR IGNITING THE INTERNATIONAL ROSE. Then everything will be fine. Only under the current government, when a cohort of "God's chosen people" has gathered at the helm of the country, this will not happen.
  12. individual
    individual 12 July 2013 10: 12
    +7
    Theoretically, Zhirinovsky is right to abolish the national-territorial division of Russia.
    The growing nationalism in the republics is the main threat to the integrity of Russia.
    1. smile
      smile 12 July 2013 14: 22
      +5
      individual
      Not theoretically - he is generally right! And let the figures of the republics. where 90 percent and higher voting for Putin is ensured, referendums are organized and they will abandon the national-territorial division in order to increase the general welfare ... let the initiative come from them ... about which they need to be informed ... let them propagate it themselves. ..this is the only way to prevent relapse.
  13. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign 12 July 2013 10: 36
    +4
    Exclusively and only cultural autonomy (national schools, technical schools, about universities - you need to think about it, teaching in your native languages, free religion) - everything else from the evil one harms the integrity of the state.
  14. Dimy4
    Dimy4 12 July 2013 11: 13
    +4
    His doos is worse than a smart enemy. Khrushchev nakulesil in all areas, and handed out military equipment for no reason ...
  15. Ulan
    Ulan 12 July 2013 11: 17
    16
    It is difficult to overestimate the extent of damage to the country that caused it to her Khrushchev. His activities were not fully investigated and not evaluated. He destroyed everything positive that had been created before him to erase the very mention of Stalin.
    Today's "historians" are fascinated by the scourging of Stalin's time, and that Khrushchev's rule was a tragedy for the country, almost no one talks about this.
    I’ll recall only a few points. I broke up agriculture. The country was on the verge of starvation. I myself remember how on summer vacation, my mother picked me up early in the morning (I really wanted to sleep) and sent me to take a queue to the store for bread.
    Almost complete destruction of peasant farms, and products from them in large quantities went to the collective farm markets and were cheap and of high quality.
    I myself found this time when the collective farm markets were full of animals — chickens, ducks, geese, sheep, milk, sour cream, meat.
    After the activity of Mykita, almost all of this disappeared. Even fruit trees in the plots of the peasants were taxed.
    I am silent about corn. Experiments on the division of district committees into agricultural and industrial, all this brought confusion and loss of control. The creation of economic councils, then their abolition. Practically abolition of material interest in the results of labor, many works were transferred to a "time frame". The hardest blow to the country with its "exposure" cult of Stalin. Moreover, he himself was one of the organizers of the repressions. Even Stalin was forced to send him a telegram to Kiev when Khrushchev, being the first secretary of the Communist Party of Ukraine, asked to increase the scope of repressions. The text was short - "Calm down d ... k". Much more can be remembered. The seething activity of this "reformer" was reminiscent of running on the spot. It was he who turned the country towards the future collapse. Brezhnev managed to soften and postpone this event, but it was Khrushchev who laid the mine.
  16. dmb
    dmb 12 July 2013 11: 22
    -1
    The article amused, and the comments even more. Especially the comment of the gentleman, who at first insulted all the non-Russian inhabitants of the Caucasus, and then offered to punish for any violation of the law as inciting ethnic hatred. The author also did not bother himself with the analysis. And he wrote an article based on the realities of today. At the same time, he completely forgot that, in contrast to the present-day "sawmakers", the state apparatus at that time more or less tried to calculate decisions. And the redistribution of territories was associated not with the "rot" of the Russian people, but with the elementary economy. It is clear that no one, including the "Trotskyist" Khrushchev (until now did not come across any justification for conferring this "honorary" title on him, and could not have assumed that the USSR would cease to exist, in Grozny there would be the largest mosque, and the bandits would receive the highest An elementary example of an economic approach; with meat in the same Grozny in the 70s it was much better than in Astrakhan not because there were Chechens there, there were very few of them then, but because there was oil refining there, which Chechens never worked at birth., the qualifications are not the same.
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 12 July 2013 16: 36
      +3
      Quote: dmb
      The article was amusing, and the comments were even more. Especially mister’s comment,

      This osloo ... to identify yourself in a place of compact residence that I would think at least a little before writing
  17. Sergey13
    Sergey13 12 July 2013 11: 27
    -3
    This article came out, I think it came out for a reason, rumors have been circulating for a month that after the "Greatest" Olympiad in 2014, in preparation for which our "best minds" who think day and night about Russia cut down a lot of money, the Stavropol Territory will be divided , part will go to the Krasnodar Territory, part of the Rostov region, and of course a part to "the best subject of the Russian Federation" - the Chechen Republic, to which Allah gives everything, well, Allah is probably GDP.
    1. smile
      smile 12 July 2013 14: 30
      +4
      Sergey1
      Sir. you rave! All these rumors are invented in the relevant departments or by creative creators-proponents and spread among the swamps, like the bacilli in the nutrient broth ... they affect only the darkest part of the people. It’s a pity, of course, that there are a lot of idiots, but the epic with MMM convincingly shows that the number of idiots is unchanged, even though you crack ... congratulations!
      1. Sergey13
        Sergey13 12 July 2013 15: 06
        -1
        There is no smoke without fire, sir. Wait and see, the brightest part of the people ... I congratulate you too
        1. smile
          smile 12 July 2013 15: 44
          +1
          Sergey13
          Smoke is where someone intentionally tries to set fire .... but does not burn! :)))
          Naturally we’ll wait, where do we go ... Moreover, you should know that without exception all such rumors have never been justified, as well as numerous doomsday ....
          Thank you for the compliment and recognition of my sanity :)))) I am ordinary and, unfortunately, I am not the best part of the people ... the main thing is not dark. :)))
  18. Russ69
    Russ69 12 July 2013 11: 30
    10
    Stalin did not overlook, with Khrushchev, oh ... did not overlook.
  19. Sergey13
    Sergey13 12 July 2013 11: 49
    +1
    Quote: Russ69
    Stalin did not overlook, with Khrushchev, oh ... did not overlook.

    Stalin did not overlook, I agree, but Khrushchev ....
    1. Poppy
      Poppy 12 July 2013 12: 52
      +3
      so Khrushchev and overlooked
      1. Sergey13
        Sergey13 12 July 2013 13: 50
        +2
        and where he looked at all, this fucking fucker, he gave the Crimea, the evicted comrades. Stalin traitors, and this is the whole people of Chechnya, without exception returned. Dig a bitch and shoot like an enemy of the people
  20. Sergey13
    Sergey13 12 July 2013 12: 03
    -2
    Quote: Sergey13
    This article came out, I think it came out for a reason, rumors have been circulating for a month that after the "Greatest" Olympiad in 2014, in preparation for which our "best minds" who think day and night about Russia cut down a lot of money, the Stavropol Territory will be divided , part will go to the Krasnodar Territory, part of the Rostov region, and of course a part to "the best subject of the Russian Federation" - the Chechen Republic, to which Allah gives everything, well, Allah is probably GDP.

    If you are minuscule, you would at least justify
    1. smile
      smile 12 July 2013 14: 37
      0
      Sergey13
      Your comment is a set of tyranny horror stories, with the lowest damage, which hydrocephalus is incapable of recognizing all the stupidity of. He is also not capable. to realize who and why it comes up with.
      Since, in addition to the swamp nonsense, the commentary does not contain either information or common sense, what can you justify? You first try to justify the nonsense you wrote, and then demand an explanation.
      1. Sergey13
        Sergey13 12 July 2013 15: 14
        +1
        Sir, as you put it, what is it to substantiate, I live in this region and I see and hear everything perfectly, right on the spot, and you think so on the banks of foggy Albion, judging by the appeal, so I think it's hard to judge the realities that are happening in our country Russia, my friend
        1. smile
          smile 12 July 2013 16: 03
          0
          Sergey13
          Please do not call me "friend" - I am not one of yours ... well, those who address each other in this way ... :))))
          Please provide evidence of your allegations:
          1. "the best minds have cut down immeasurably dough"
          who they are, by name, the country must know its heroes. because once you say, you know, you won’t just spread nonsense just like that, right? Or become?
          where they cut down and how much, if you know what you stole, you should know how much ... at the same time, preferably. at least a hint of a source of awareness.
          2. In which place of the region did you see the plans for the partition of the Stavropol Territory with Chechnya? Indicate. Do not tyrnete? Or did one woman say?
          I really want to look at that place if there is nothing indecent there ...

          I'm not blind, I see perfectly that we have problems. and about theft, I know, perhaps more so, in view of the specifics of your profession ... also I know that there are small positive changes in the fight against corruption. And we should have fewer territorial entities. I also see that the gossip spread by people like you are harmful to all of us ... including you.
          1. Sergey13
            Sergey13 12 July 2013 16: 40
            0
            laughing maybe, because of the specifics of your profession, you’ve smiled very much ... and also ... there are some small positive changes in the fight against corruption. I’ll keep silent about my profession, so as not to measure it, who knows more. But I don’t see any reason to prove, or, in accordance with the above evidence, will you be able to brutally punish the villains? If so, then, in view of the specifics of your profession, work better, and not hang in Internet.
            1. smile
              smile 12 July 2013 17: 26
              +1
              Sergey13
              Yes, do not be shy, do not be silent, it’s even interesting where people work, who make up their opinions on the basis of rumors ... :)))
              Do not dodge, please, I just asked you to name at least roughly the sources of your conviction and the people who steal, you know them, or just breshet, oh, excuse me, chatting? :)))
              In principle, I also do not see any reason to prove anything to someone whose views are formed by rumors, the sources of which he is embarrassed to call ... but you are spreading these rumors. So you want to be trusted. They called you a liar, and you wriggle already, if only you didn’t have to confirm the lie you spread ... what then is the price of your words?
              I gave the debt to the Motherland in full, do not worry ... :))) but I continue to work by profession ... because. Unfortunately, I can’t spend much time on tyrnet. I'm leaving. I'll be back later. I'd love to get a clear answer.
              By the way, I fully admit that you are more knowledgeable. than me ... but then it turns out. that you are lying not out of stupidity, but out of malice ... in my opinion, this is even worse. Bye. Waiting for an answer.
              1. Sergey13
                Sergey13 12 July 2013 18: 06
                -1
                Our smiling, and you do not accidentally relate to the moderators of this site? In more accurate terms, dogs breach and you along with them. And the views are formed by the realities of our life, and not by rumors, boy. To prove that either so dol .... am like you do not make sense. All the best, just my friend laughing
                1. smile
                  smile 12 July 2013 18: 46
                  0
                  Sergey13
                  Do not worry, I assure you, I have nothing to do with the moderators :))) on the contrary, sometimes I get pumpkins from them for rudeness. so that you can safely complain about me. :)))
                  About the expressions ..
                  1. I apologized in advance :)))
                  2. If you write an impudent lie, defend it, although, energetically maneuvering, you try to slip away from proving your words (well, then I understand you, there is absolutely nothing to say to you in confirmation of your words.) Then I just said things in your own names ... :))))
                  By the way, the expression "breach" is also used in relation to those who lie. Sometimes they add, "like a gray gelding" ... you are lying, while trying to elude the need to confirm your blatant lie ... therefore, it is you who will be wrong. :)))
                  What correct expressions do you know: "And views are formed by the realities of our life, and not by rumors, boy" ...
                  So well, you ... girl, are shaping your worldview using idiotic rumors that you are unable to confirm the veracity of? What is in the way? Clever? :)))
                  I understand that there is nothing to answer you after you have been caught lying and taken with your nose according to the results of your vital activity. And you didn’t have to prove anything to me — you had to justify your nonsense, which I called a lie ...
                  You could not say a WORD in defense of your position - look at our controversy ... NOT A WORD!
                  In this regard, I am sympathetic to pathetic attempts to offend me .... but I couldn’t rest :)))
                  And for the compliment, thank you, for good reason they tell me that I look 10 years younger than my years. :)))
                  Goodbye ... :)))) For a long time I did not come across such stupid opponents, thanks, had fun.
    2. T-73
      T-73 12 July 2013 15: 00
      +1
      Why is it a plus? Another attraction for the ears of the Olympiad, cuts, some rumors to the article have nothing to do. Out of place and tired of this disc already
      1. Sergey13
        Sergey13 12 July 2013 15: 19
        -1
        T-73, but what about the pluses I asked you?
  21. radio operator
    radio operator 12 July 2013 15: 40
    +4
    Something similar was observed in the early to mid-1920 years, when, for example, Petrovsk-port became Makhachkala (in honor of the Dagestan Bolshevik); Kamennomostsky was renamed Khadzhokh (in the south of the present Adygea), Vladikavkaz - in Dzaudzhikau, Stepnoi - in the city of Elista (Kalmykia); the resort town of Sernovodsk was transferred to the Mountain Autonomy (later Chechen-Ingushetia).

    And how many districts of Stavropol transferred to the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic are not mentioned in the article!
    The sad fact.
    Stalin returned many lands back, given by Lenin to the nat. republics. Khrushchev returned to Lenin’s rut. Now there is a continuation of Lenin-Khrushchev national politics.
  22. deman73
    deman73 12 July 2013 16: 22
    +3
    Nikita kukuruznik firewood broke throughout Russia for a long time we will disentangle and not all will be able to disentangle to the end this is a shame
  23. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 12 July 2013 16: 38
    +5
    <<< Decrees of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR in April 1962 and in February-June 1963 finally determined the inter-district borders in the North Caucasian and Lower Volga national autonomies. With these acts, the central authorities secured the belonging of many Russian regions to the same national autonomies (these regions NEVER belonged to autonomies before). In short, there is every reason to assert that many socio-economic problems in the North Caucasus and the Lower Volga region stem from distortions in the national-administrative and socio-economic policies of the “Khrushchev” leadership in the mid-1950s - early 1960s. >>>
    All the internal political actions of this uneducated tyrant swineherd, with the help of undercover intrigues (the only one who succeeded), came to power, were aimed at infringing the rights of the Russian people, to the detriment of Russia (at that time the RSFSR). This Svidomo u..od (hidden russophobe) during his reign "twisted" SO MUCH everywhere that more than one generation of peoples living now on the territory of the former USSR will try to solve the problems he created. The transfer of Crimea to Ukraine with an overwhelming Russian population, like serfs, the execution of workers in Novocherkassk, even the pearl of Russia - Lake Baikal did not leave alone, spit on the protests, built a pulp and paper mill there, etc. etc. In general, it is time to hold a discussion on the topic of the role of the tyrant-idiot in history!
  24. Gardamir
    Gardamir 12 July 2013 17: 16
    +1
    There is a small program for transforming the country, here is one of the points - "Administrative division: district-parish-region-region-state. Names of regions in the capital of the region, for example Kazan, Elistinskaya, Grozny. Geographical names of regions, for example, Caucasian, Ural, etc. *.
  25. kush62
    kush62 13 July 2013 03: 36
    0
    One is nailed, and for many years millions have to disentangle. What place they think is incomprehensible.
    If at all they think.
  26. Steppenwolf
    Steppenwolf 14 July 2013 22: 47
    +2
    ... Eh ... Comrade Stalin would have lived another 5 years - most likely this derma would not have come to rake ...
  27. vBR
    vBR 21 July 2013 19: 46
    -1
    The article is useless and even harmful. Because he again inflates the topic "we were robbed". All the post-Soviet states were cut into administrative units, which many at the forum perceive as national or ethnic, and of a type that is terribly primordial - Kazakh, Russian, Ukrainian ... These are fragments. But even the short-sighted Khrushchev in general can be reproached for having transferred part of one adm. units to the other is an anachronism. A morally pleasant attempt to absolve myself of the blame for the present: I’m like shouting "primordially Russian territories" and feeling like a patriot. The whole empire consisted of the outskirts, and Russians came there, and even before Kievan Rus it was so. The Moscow region was inhabited by the Baltic and Finno-Ugric tribes at the time of the arrival of the Eastern Slavs, so what? Those. arguments that the Russians here will have more aliens from anyone, and not from the Russians. And the screamers about the "primordially Russian land" in fact, showing daring ignorance in Russian history, provoke things that happened at the turn of the 90s. In the end, we will be told to get out to the Czech Republic and Poland - it was from there that the Eastern Slavs went east 2 thousand years ago :) This is exaggerated, but it shows the absurdity of "primordiality". Don't be l ... and a second time