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The split of the world elite forces Putin to decide who he is

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The split of the world elite forces Putin to decide who he isStaying away from Russia will not work, you will have to join one of the camps


A few days ago I had a long conversation with Dmitry Anatolyevich ... no, do not think of anything - Zhuravlev, who told me in detail about his concept of “homogeneous elite”. I will not get into subtleties (I think that DA himself can tell about this, and he also tells in some of his interviews), I will only note the main conclusion. Its essence is that in modern Russia there is only the initial formation of the elite, it is still completely homogeneous. This is all one group, a sort of broth, in which the internal connections and understanding of their unity are much stronger than the internal contradictions. Therefore, in principle, it cannot become a tool for the development of a country, since such development requires powerful intraelite contradictions - which, by the way, can only become the basis for a normally working concept of separation of powers.

Theoretically, this concept is exactly the opposite of my views, which say that tough contradictions are growing inside the Russian elite, but our conversation showed that these differences are not really fundamental. The fact is that I describe the objective factors that influence intraelite relations, but the whole trick is that the elite itself categorically refuses to recognize these factors, more precisely, their scale and a very long duration.

In part, this may be a consequence of a developed instinct of self-preservation, since in today's crisis situation intra-elite wars may tear this very elite (more precisely, according to Zhuravlev, proto-elite) into small parts, with the subsequent disappearance of a greater number of them; partly due to serious limitations in understanding the situation. Or maybe for some other reason. But the fact itself, in general, takes place: the modern Russian “elite” fears a crisis, a people, Western special services - but by no means their own internal contradictions.

Yes, of course, Voloshin and Co. organized a “swamp process” against Putin. However, how quickly he was blown away and which, in general, not very serious people led him, testifies that the purpose of this whole action was not so much the destruction or overthrow of Putin as its restriction within the existing political system. That is, the main task of the "family" (in the broadest possible sense of the word - as the oligarchs of the formation of the 90's, the pre-Putin years) was not so much to break the system (which is already a serious intra-elite war), as to put a specific person in a specific framework.

We note that the fact that this did not work out just indirectly testifies to the fact that things are not going very well: ordinary, regular actions are not enough to bring the system of intraelite relations into a state of equilibrium. But the “family” used not quite regular actions: for the first time in 10-12 years, the resource of appeal to society was used to resolve intraelite contradictions.

Maybe everything would have ended in peace, even with the evolving crisis, but here there was one extremely important circumstance that directly affects the processes in our “proelit broth”. Circumstance is - the case of Strauss-Kahn. Again, without going into details: it was the revolt of the US bureaucracy against the global financial elite, which deprived it of its last major source of profit - the emissions of the US Federal Reserve. Just in case, I repeat: it was not the issue that disappeared, but the mechanism of its redistribution, which was not controlled by the global financial elite, but by the White House apparatus.

As a result, the global financial elite split into three groups - “money changers” (they are also “rotshilds”), “finintern” (they are also “lenders” or “alchemists”) and “Americans” (they are also “Rockefellers”; capital letters, As you know, I did not set it on purpose). And all these three groups are actively putting pressure on the Russian proto-elite to solve their goals. The task of “changing” is to ensure the creation in the Eurasian space of its own currency zone (conditionally, “ruble”), and they have placed the main stake on Putin (and on whom else?). Accordingly, their main enemies are the Russian liberals, whom the money changers, like other parts of the world financial elite, a few years ago were carefully holily and cherished, who work for the IMF (finintern’s coordination center) and for the US special services.

Today, the Americans no longer want the collapse of Russia (read the recent works of Brzezinski), but are extremely interested in Russia becoming a tool against China and, most importantly, in no case form its own currency zone, that is, remain in the dollar zone. As for the "Finintern", he has rather tactical than strategic interests in Russia, but the fact that he is against the creation of emission currency zones is unambiguous.

So, regardless of the contradictions between these groups, they strongly put pressure on our "protoelite" in terms of solving the most important task. The “money changers” need the ruble zone to be, and the rest is absolutely useless. Accordingly, Putin in various ways tries to impose integration tasks within the framework of the Customs Union and wider to the government and the Central Bank, and they not only refuse to do this, but also undermine what has already been done. If we were talking about purely internal affairs, then God would be with them (they would have understood the inside of the elite, and the contradictions would go nowhere), but considering the external factor, everything is not so clear.

Here it is necessary to add one more important circumstance. Whether Putin likes it or not, he is tightly associated with the integration theme. And there is no way to neglect this, since there can be troubles such as Russia’s demonstrative disregard for G7 or stories with Snowden, in which we look like whipping boys. There are other problems that we can get: for example, an Islamic explosion in the south of the country. In such a situation, we strongly need serious international allies. And who could they be?

If we are talking about the United States, then we need to throw the entire integration group out of power, handing over Kazakhstan and Belarus at the same time (the first to China, the second to the European Union) and finally losing the remnants of any international authority. If we are talking about "money changers", then you need to remove the "liberals." And there can already be no internal collusion here, since it is necessary to determine either one or the other basic platform. In general, "Rabinovich, or remove the cross, or wear panties!"

Actually, theoretically it would be possible to try to behave like Ukraine, that is, to sit on two chairs at once, which our elite has so far done. The trouble is that the issue of independent currency areas is fundamentally important for all international participants. Either there will be such zones, and then there will be no “finintern”, and “Americans” will lose a lot in international weight, or they will not be - and then there will be no “change”. Here, in the two years that have passed since the “Strauss-Kahn case,” everything has already been decided completely without us, and therefore we will have to join either one camp or another.

By the way, it is very interesting to look at the position of the “Americans” - the only force that will remain in any case, since the United States, in general, does not disappear anywhere (we do not consider alternative scenarios due to their low probability). They are quite ready to work with the current liberals, but there is serious information that they are already preparing a program to create "new liberals" who are not involved in any way with privatization, and therefore have electoral prospects in Russia. Since liberal ideas live in any society, in the event of a victory for “money changers” and stripping of the current liberal camp in Russia, this backup scenario will most likely be launched.

However, this is already a deviation from the topic - rather, an illustration of how seriously the participants in the process treat it. For us, it’s fundamentally important: the structuring of the “protoelite broth” in our country can happen much faster than everyone thinks, due to factors external to our elite and the country.
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  1. deman73
    deman73 12 July 2013 07: 27 New
    -7
    sheer bullshit, we are on our own and this is the main thing
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 12 July 2013 08: 32 New
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      Quote: deman73
      we are on our own and this is important

      This is definitely nonsense!

      Russia's problem lies precisely in the fact that there is a clan struggle. They don’t think about how to develop the country, they think about how to maintain more power and get more money.
      There is a good video in the subject. I recommend everyone to watch! good

      http://www.rline.tv/programs/tochka-zreniya/video-15721/
      1. escobar
        escobar 12 July 2013 14: 50 New
        +2
        Quote: nycsson
        There is a good video in the subject. I recommend everyone to watch! http://www.rline.tv/programs/tochka-zreniya/video-15721/

        THIS IS JUST TRAGIC AND MORE LIKE LOSS OF SOVEREIGNTY.
      2. Sea snake
        Sea snake 13 July 2013 01: 14 New
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        Quote: nycsson
        There is a good video in the subject. I recommend everyone to watch! good

        Thanks for the video! Even downloaded smile to reconsider and more fully comprehend.
        Yes, situation ... without a "firm hand" here, however, can not do ... and maybe they are preparing for this?
        One thing is good - judging by the intensification of actions in the field of defense and combat readiness, the country's leadership has finally made the right conclusions, which have been known for so long: "If you want peace, if you want to be reckoned with you, get ready for war!" ... that is, just arm yourself, be strong. Russia’s friends are only its Army and Navy! It always has been.


        I didn’t read the article. what
    2. Canep
      Canep 12 July 2013 10: 33 New
      +1
      Article 26 mentions the elite, and not once did the author bother to explain what (whom) he had in mind.
    3. neri73-r
      neri73-r 12 July 2013 11: 32 New
      +2
      we are on our own and this is important

      Eeeee no, friend !!! Nobody has succeeded in living in society and being free from this society, perhaps a little freer than others, yes (example: the USSR, especially Stalin, and probably the USA in the modern world)!
    4. host
      host 12 July 2013 12: 56 New
      +2
      It is not regrettable, but rather it is.
      No one thinks about the people.
      If the economic model does not change, then there will continue to be a stratification into the very poor and very rich.
      Some will fight for survival, others for the preservation of their wealth and power.
      And in a couple of generations on earth there will be a fascist global regime, with all the attributes (gas chambers and camps for lower races).
  2. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 12 July 2013 07: 29 New
    +6
    ARTICLE about bidders.
    The peoples of the world for them a bargaining chip.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 12 July 2013 18: 30 New
      0
      Quote: Lech from ZATULINKI
      ARTICLE about bidders.
      The peoples of the world for them a bargaining chip.


      Quite a normal analysis. Actors only a little.
  3. pensioner
    pensioner 12 July 2013 07: 33 New
    +6
    I didn’t understand anything ... Not enough yesterday, not enough ...
  4. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 12 July 2013 07: 45 New
    +6
    History shows that often in life something that no one expects. As they say wait and see.
  5. Asgard
    Asgard 12 July 2013 07: 51 New
    10
    Quote: deman73
    we are on our own and this is important

    Here it is right ....
    As for the "delirium ... mares" I would argue, Misha sees some of the things one of the first ,,,,, BUT he lives on old ideas about the paradigm of "elites" - in fact they are NOT. (Entih "elites")))
    There are "schemes" in which certain People are included ...
    Vova Putin is no exception, (over how his media defend and exaggerate his “pooh”)))) We remember how “out of nowhere” I came up with nothing like a “little man” meter with a little ....
    13 years have passed and there are really nothing to do, the analytics of his decrees and the adopted laws of law says that this is a "doll" ....

    Mosque - sawed BZHRK-happy now harnesses to create))))
    Rosneft and the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers and even do not know who to prefer)))))

    but it is necessary PEOPLE .... to return HIS INTERESTS.
    it would be necessary to already cease to be a "litter", but here the problem is with intelligence))))

    so THIS will be done by other PEOPLE .....
    1. Furnace driver
      Furnace driver 12 July 2013 10: 07 New
      +1
      in the light of recent rapprochements with China, the stake has been placed on “money changers,” because China has long been a Rothschild reserve: Israel’s supplies of the most modern systems to China, the transfer of its center to this region are also recalled. and there will be a creation soon of the Golden Yuan
    2. zMouze
      zMouze 12 July 2013 10: 11 New
      -4
      You re-read your creation ... Think about what you wrote ... Then think again ... If you have enough "reasoning", delete the post.
    3. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 12 July 2013 21: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Asgard
      so THIS will be done by other PEOPLE ....

      again doing shamanism, one and the same boo, boo, boo- "Putin g-o-v-n-o" - "Others will come." Who else, check or drop a tambourine and do not rumble, do not litter the brains of your fellow tribesmen with your cheap propaganda. I, too, am not thrilled with Putin, but bring at least a little worthy alternative for this time and then click.
  6. Dimy4
    Dimy4 12 July 2013 07: 57 New
    +6
    We are Russian civilization. It let the rest think to adjoin someone there or not.
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 12 July 2013 11: 34 New
      +1
      I wish it were so! But the world is much more complicated, and now we are weak! To make this a reality, you need to work hard and take time!
    2. Orik
      Orik 12 July 2013 12: 10 New
      0
      Quote: Dimy4
      We are Russian civilization. It let the rest think to adjoin someone there or not.


      Gold words. Only our kakistocracy does not even think in such categories! We do not have the elite, there are corrupt mongrels who choose whose ass to lick better.
      Russia will be saved by returning to its origins, gaining high meanings and building YOUR civilization model, and not the choice between plague, cholera or smallpox, as the "patriotic" Moishey Khazin, Leontyev and others are trying to us.
  7. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 12 July 2013 08: 07 New
    +2
    There are a couple of proverbs that are, in general, against the article: “your brother involuntarily” and “the raven will not peck out the crow”. And they are supplemented by a third: "the lords are fighting, and at the lackeys forelocks are cracking." Judging by how quickly they deal even with the manifestations of opposition and how these manifestations calm down or give way to repentance just as quickly, firstly, the intra-elite opposition is weak and not ideal (besides the desire to live well), and secondly, those in power understand the danger of a possible split and thirdly, they have the necessary resource for its rapid suppression.
  8. creak
    creak 12 July 2013 08: 09 New
    +5
    Yes, what is our elite? This is a foam that interests nothing but its own good and for which Russia is: "this country." Neither they nor their children connect their future with Russia - this is the whole trouble.
    1. Joker
      Joker 12 July 2013 08: 13 New
      +8
      Here, this is a dog, not the elite. The elite are scientists, doctors, and not a crowd of baryg who sell their country from year to year.
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 12 July 2013 08: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: Joker
        Here, this is a dog, not the elite. The elite are scientists, doctors, and not a crowd of baryg who sell their country from year to year.

        I completely agree. This "elite" should first of all think about the people!

        http://www.rline.tv/programs/tochka-zreniya/video-14977/

        I recommend to watch!

        By the way, why not embed video?
        1. Joker
          Joker 12 July 2013 09: 07 New
          +1
          By the way, why not embed video?

          I do not know, I just throw links from YouTube, they work.
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 12 July 2013 11: 06 New
            +1
            Quote: Joker
            I do not know, I just throw links from YouTube, they work.

            Yes, I tried. Does not work. request I wanted to put the video in the subject, now I’ll try again.
            1. VAF
              VAF 12 July 2013 23: 02 New
              +1
              Quote: nycsson
              I wanted to put the video in the subject, now I’ll try again.

              Alex ... hold on, +! drinks

        2. Airman
          Airman 12 July 2013 09: 25 New
          +2
          [quote = nycsson]. [/ quote]
          I completely agree. This "elite" should first of all think about the people!

          [/ Quote]
          This "elite" must first die.
          1. Orik
            Orik 12 July 2013 12: 12 New
            0
            It is a pity that I can only plyusanut ... hi
        3. Poppy
          Poppy 12 July 2013 11: 08 New
          +2
          the elite never and never thinks about the people, but only about their own well-being
          only by external efforts can it be made to do something useful, these efforts can be from the tsar (president) or directly from the people ... in Russia it always came from the tsar, i.e. in other words, the “good” king was with the people against the elite, and the bad king was with the elite
          with good countries developed, with bad - it degraded
          not sure if we are able to change this scheme
  9. Circle
    Circle 12 July 2013 08: 15 New
    +2
    But what if the author of the material claims the resource? After all, the article was originally called differently: "On the imminent fate of the Russian elite and who will replace it." And it was posted http://www.odnako.org/blogs/show_26677/
    About Putin in the title - as you can see - there is not a word. Yellowness began to give.
  10. papss
    papss 12 July 2013 08: 19 New
    0
    I liked the conclusion
    "Americans" today do not want the collapse of Russia
    apparently, Khazin himself is being read by Brzezinski ... and reading it reasoning ... What they want, before that, Russia to mate with China is a fact ... This result would be the best for the USA ...
    As for Putin and his choice ... the latter should be decided of course ... but over the past, especially 3 years, the West has demonstrated its approach to objectionable politicians (Gaddafi), countries (Syria, Libya), legitimate governments (Egypt, Mursi). .. what Putin can expect, the swamp showed well ... not very serious people (according to Khazin) - they said, "you will still get paid ..."
    1. kuxx15
      kuxx15 12 July 2013 11: 03 New
      0
      they don’t want to, because we can’t ... we are your friends ... thank God Lord Medvedev is no longer the president, and if it had happened much faster than Brzezinski had expected
  11. slvevg
    slvevg 12 July 2013 08: 20 New
    +2
    Perhaps this article explains why such oddities regularly occur in ministries: some in the forest, some for firewood. Against the background of constant idle talk and sometimes real actions to improve the work of one ministry, absolutely destructive reforms are adopted in others, and IT takes years, then a 180-degree turn, and where are we going? What games? When even the majority of the population understands, and the authorities are blind? Or ... this is not our power! With regards to most CIS countries.
  12. Ascetic
    Ascetic 12 July 2013 08: 24 New
    14
    The main contradiction of global global capitalism is contradictions primarily between the financial and industrial world elites.To paraphrase the classics of Marxism-Leninism between speculative finance capital and transnational corporations. Apparently, the financial elite does not want to share power with anyone and does not reckon with anything in order to maintain the power of loan interest. And how the contradictions between the elites are resolved, the world has already experienced more than once. As soon as capitalism enters its next phase, whether it be monopoly capitalism, imperialism, and now globalism, all this begins with crises and usually ends with world wars.
    We must remember that the world ruling elite always benefits from confrontation in societies, between states, because it will always win in confrontation, even if one of the parties wins. independent state elites can restrain and resist the actions of the modern world ruling elite. Strengthening the ruling elites of these states leads to a weakening of the influence of the world ruling elite, and, therefore, makes it more pliable for concessions and changes, because these elderly bloodsuckers are not gods and want to live long and continue to rule.
    And therefore, no matter how powerful those in power would like, in order not only to remain in power in the country but to banally survive, the process of NATIONALIZATION OF THE ELITE is inevitable. And only industrial capital and the siloviki are interested in strengthening and consolidating the state, while liberal compradors and traders of various kinds, coupled with scammers, are not interested in a strong state that limits their uncontrolled appetites, and therefore they need to get rid of their influence. faster is better.
  13. Strashila
    Strashila 12 July 2013 08: 44 New
    +6
    Just the so-called world elite, on a good example of the Russian, showed that the territories of their states they are neither who nor call them nor how negative . While they are tying money from their states, thereby undermining their economy and security, they are interested in them, but no more.
  14. Yura
    Yura 12 July 2013 08: 55 New
    +5
    We have what we have. Smart people sit. They write smart, meaningful articles and comments. Forgetting only that always and everywhere in human relationships, whether personal, public, any, there is a domino principle (that is, any action is dictated by a chain of previous events and will entail a chain of events that are already predetermined). One thing surprises me, almost everything that is not written and it is said especially about the negative aspects that comes down to V.V. To Putin and to his overthrow, you even start to think that this is painful and not far. But try to do it like this, imagine at least at the family level, let's say you have difficulties, you were cut off at work, but your wife, despite this, lowered her cash reserves in a store in two days, one of the children got carried away in the bathroom and flooded the neighbors with bottom, that is, relations are spoiled, not a small repair cost is coming up, another child had a fight with the guys in the yard in blood, a showdown with the police, someone once moved somewhere and once again cuts the rubber of a car with a knife, it needs to be changed. A man stands on the balcony of the tenth floor and thinks: - "for what, but what to do next." The everyday situation is widespread today, but not everyone can solve it quickly, or even completely. And you are Putin and Putin, remember that we are all those whose actions or inaction will affect the events and decisions made tomorrow, I'm not talking about the impact of external influences almost always directed to our detriment.
  15. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 12 July 2013 09: 04 New
    0
    Maybe in the West there is some kind of elite, then in Russia it certainly does not exist, at least in the sense in which the word "elite" is usually understood.
  16. Metlik
    Metlik 12 July 2013 09: 48 New
    +1
    The formation of the elite is strongly influenced by our Russian mentality, in particular, the rejection of wealth as a symbol of success in life. But without national capital, there can be no national elite.

    Let us recall that for the liberation of Russia not only the organizational skills of Prince Pozharsky were needed, but also the money of the merchant Minin. Where will today's Minins come from if the assets of the Russian Federation are sold either to embezzlers or to Western corporations?
  17. wax
    wax 12 July 2013 09: 53 New
    0
    "Americans" today no longer want the collapse of Russia (read Brzezinski’s latest works), but are extremely interested in Russia becoming an instrument against China

    Real, and not Griboedov’s, grief from the mind. The collapse of Russia is the strategic goal of the United States and the West as a whole, which has not been lost sight of throughout the 20th century. And it is precisely destroyed Russia that is the main tool against China. Another thing is that this does not work with Putin, so maneuvering with the use of chocolate or slings is required to achieve the main goal. The support of mercenaries and terrorists in countries geographically close to Russia, their training and religious-fanatic education to create the conditions for permanent self-sustaining chaos - that is what now, perhaps, has become the spearhead of US foreign policy against Russia. A striking example of the success of the chaotization policy is Egypt, which will never rise to the Nasser achievements of half a century ago = the country is thrown back a century. Syria is the site of one of the manifestations of the strategic battle with Russia. It is difficult for us, but we must not cede the last secular regime in the region to obscurantists. There is a line and OUR front.
  18. 1536
    1536 12 July 2013 09: 59 New
    +6
    After reading the article, for some reason I recalled an episode from the movie “The Diamond Arm” when a policeman Mikhal Ivanovich came to Semyon Semenych Gorbunkov and said that Gena was a friend of Semyon Semyonitch — he was no other than a criminal hunting him. "Why don’t you catch him then?" - the Gorbunkov lawfully asks. "To peck a larger fish!" - the policeman answers philosophically. Whatever word you call the people who make decisions in Russia today - the elite, the gang, the interest club, etc., they clearly chop the branch on which they sit.
  19. Smersh
    Smersh 12 July 2013 10: 03 New
    0
    As a result, the world financial elite split into three groups - “changed” (they are also “Rothschilds”), “fininter” (they are also “interest-holders” or “alchemists”) and “Americans” (they are also “rockefellers”; capital letters, as it is clear, I didn’t put it on purpose). And all these three groups are actively pressing the Russian proto-elite to achieve their goals.


    by 4, we have our own position and our own group, and we are not marianettes in the wrong hands, so that some groups will press us
  20. King
    King 12 July 2013 10: 06 New
    +4
    Thank you for the article. Once again you read the article and you understand that there are so many opinions and how many people, but they boil down to one thing - the struggle with Russia and within Russia has been and will be until then flogging our country.
  21. Son
    Son 12 July 2013 10: 25 New
    +1
    And why is Khazin not considering the option of “Clamping” his “elite” (you can push them together) and try to play your game ..?
    1. Yura
      Yura 12 July 2013 20: 06 New
      0
      Quote: Son
      "Clamp" your "elite" (you can push) and try to play your game ..?

      It is even necessary to do this, and the options for this are darkness. For example, it is permissible to award fiscal authorities with thirty percent of the money returned to the state that was hid, hid, underfunded to their employees in the form of legal salaries, as well as from received and given bribes and kickbacks. And I think when it comes to tens, if not hundreds of billions, the tax, police and other fiscal services do not have to blame at all that it is their direct duty to fight corruption and theft with bribery, they will do everything very quickly. And in addition to this, it should be profitable for entrepreneurs and other managers who do not specialize in construction to build housing for their employees or to buy, that is, not to tax at all, at first glance, the money that was not received by the state should be returned to the owners of the apartments. It should be profitable for entrepreneurs to spend money on social issues, but it should not be profitable to simply put money in a small bag, and withdrawing and storing money in general in a small egg in our country should become unprofitable. I understand that this requires taking difficult decisions, and I also understand that this is a risk to some extent, but to do this anyway, the situation has matured to the limit, even if there are some other steps, but they are needed.
  22. kuxx15
    kuxx15 12 July 2013 11: 01 New
    -1
    and have to agree, one way or another ?!
    Quote: Dimy4
    We are Russian civilization. It let the rest think to adjoin someone there or not.
  23. Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov 12 July 2013 11: 06 New
    0
    in principle, it cannot become an instrument of the country's development, since such development requires powerful intra-elite contradictions - which, by the way, can only become the basis for a normally working concept of separation of powers


    Tell me, in which country is the separation of powers? Not only does this principle work, but at least it just exists ... Or does someone think that the courts, law enforcement, lawmakers, and the media are controlled not from one center?

    The only tool for the development of the country can be tough discipline, or let’s say so the self-discipline of the country's leadership. Unconditional submission to the idea of ​​the development of the country, not personal and collective enrichment.
  24. Igarr
    Igarr 12 July 2013 11: 16 New
    +2
    Hello people...
    "..A few days ago I had a long conversation with Dmitry Anatolyevich ... no, don’t think about anything - Zhuravlev ..."
    So here I am, a few days ago ..had.
    It's great that everything is painted like that - three elites, three components, three clans, three groups, three founders, God loves the trinity ... one Putin in all white, like a piano in the bushes ...
    Strauss-Kann got confused ...
    And such newly created counterweights, like BRICS, were out of business. It’s strange.
    ..
    In my opinion, the next "profound" quasi-scientific and famously terminated article is NOTHING.
    The Americans are against the invaders, but for Putin, but against ... but for .., at the same time .. contrary to that .. however .. because. FOR..
    ..
    Michael said or too much.
    Or most likely - too theoretical .... AVOS ..
    1. arkady149
      arkady149 12 July 2013 15: 00 New
      +1
      Of all the comments, the most suitable. I fully support.
  25. honest jew
    honest jew 12 July 2013 11: 17 New
    +6
    Quote: deman73
    , we are on our own and this is important
  26. Valery-SPB
    Valery-SPB 12 July 2013 11: 55 New
    +1
    We have an elite that is a corrupt girl. The change of elites in our country is the same girl that in the nearest store the dress also changed her makeup.
  27. ImPerts
    ImPerts 12 July 2013 11: 56 New
    +1
    That's right, it already sounded here, wait and see. We will live - see, survive, find out. Intoxication with the freedom of 80's (or 90's, who believes) has given way to a decade of anarchy and survival. And so on. People sober up, change their views, the polarity of assessments of what is happening and what is happening. Who, in the wake of revelatory publications, thought that the reign of Leonid Ilyich would be perceived as the golden age of the USSR, and Joseph Vissarionovich would be rediscovered? And who in the year of the fortieth year thought that the USSR’s victory in the Second World War would be carefully leveled and compared to the USSR with the Third Reich?
    Do you remember how, in the wake of perestroika, transparency and new thinking, we perceived the actions of the CCP and the PLA on Tiananmen Square? How did the whole world react? And where is the whole world? Where is China and where is the USSR.
    "... However, the political community of Russia again experienced a surge of interest in what happened then - for quite a few people involuntarily compared those bloody days with the May riot of the opposition in Moscow. To a large extent this was due to the emotional statement not by anyone, but by the newly elected spokesman President Putin Dmitry Peskov, who wished to “smudge the liver of the protesters on the asphalt.” And this phenomenon is rather unpleasant, if not dangerous, because before you look for recipes from your neighbors, you need to figure out whether they are suitable for us ... "
    http://argumenti.ru/history/n342/182155
    Famous Sinologist Yevgeny Bazhanov: "In China at that time, the soft version would have led to complete collapse"
    Read on: http://izvestia.ru/news/349250#ixzz2YodPFYhY
    .............
    They made their choice and took a step. But who then thought that the Chinese step would be right and have such consequences for that world order, world order?
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 12 July 2013 16: 44 New
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      "They made their choice and took a step. But who then thought that the Chinese step would be right and have such consequences for that world order, world order?" ImPertz  Today, 11:56 AM

      Yes, all normal-minded people “thought”, and understood that the Chinese leadership was taking the right steps, destroying the representatives of the “5th Column” on Tiananmen Square, thereby preserving a stable and prosperous China, millions of lives of its people.
      Only the liberoid "pro-Western figures" who uphold "human rights" to the detriment of society as a whole scream about the "bloody Chinese regime."
  28. ovgorskiy
    ovgorskiy 12 July 2013 12: 36 New
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    Some kind of nonsense, if you do this, you will work for the Americans, you will do differently, you will also work for the Americans, and even if you follow the third option, you will work for the Americans early. In my opinion, Khazin was a little obsessed with conspiracy theories. Yes, analysts, they are such Analytics.
  29. Sochi
    Sochi 12 July 2013 12: 36 New
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    What the hell the dog elite? As long as these are simply uneducated godfathers who have piled up money and the tops of business, they will be interested in short-term profits, which will then be of no interest to them ... The elite will say something completely different, these are people who move the state forward and work for its benefit. In order for such people to become the head of state, more than one generation needs to grow up, the children of these godfathers are not much different from them ... But grandchildren and great-grandchildren ... And yet, we need a leader who can keep them in check (current and subsequent), then wait for the birth of the real elite.
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 12 July 2013 21: 30 New
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      Quote: Sochi
      the children of these godfathers are not much different from them ... But the grandchildren and great-grandchildren ... And yet, we need a leader who can keep them in check (current and subsequent), then we will wait for the birth of the real elite.

      Idealistic, but I would certainly like that would be so blatant. drinks
  30. t-95
    t-95 12 July 2013 12: 36 New
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    Mr. Khazin, a good expert, but one thing, whose expert is he, or rather from whom? I think that this is an attempt to gently probe the ground for the return of liberal ideas to our society. Veil them with ideas of protecting national interests, sing about the venality of our power, etc. , and then say that the States do not want the collapse of Russia. Here they are friends where they were hiding ............. But only one. In 1917, the same smart people thought we would put our own and make a cash cow out of Russia. It didn’t work out. And now, how not to calm down. They don’t need us strong, they don’t need us at all. And our elite has one way, definitions are national interests. The interests of Great Russia.
  31. varov14
    varov14 12 July 2013 12: 41 New
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    We don’t have elite yet. Until 17g it was Russian, the Soviet disappeared in 91, the new one has not yet grown. Some of the thieves and underserved elites. In general, the national elite should play its own game, not the world. But the methods here can be different, it would be good for the country and for ourselves.
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  33. valokordin
    valokordin 12 July 2013 13: 13 New
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    Money changers, as I understand it, Rothschilds-Jewish capital, we have that probably the same thing, well, why should Putin join this or that camp. If the president does not express the interests of national capital, and even better than state capital, then, for all his tricks, he will not rule the ball in the country for long.
  34. Semyon Albertovich
    Semyon Albertovich 12 July 2013 15: 11 New
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    It is necessary for Russia to be itself or we will become like the European Union - European Honduras.
  35. slaventi
    slaventi 12 July 2013 15: 22 New
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    In Russia, nationally oriented elites are being formed. The political elite went through the American sieve "we see what, laws are being passed" what "reforms" the government is pursuing. The business elite, meaning big business, is comprador, almost all big business has foreign jurisdiction. Russia there is an opportunity to be a leader among those countries whose elites have set their sights on liberation from the American dictatorship, in particular the BRIGS countries.
  36. i-gor63
    i-gor63 12 July 2013 15: 45 New
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    Why is everyone trying to stick Russia to someone? Type- "with whom are you Stirlitz?".
  37. uhu189
    uhu189 13 July 2013 12: 15 New
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    Recently I read an article here, where our liberals were listed among the Rothschilds - you have already decided the gentlemen with the distribution of roles wink ... But seriously - the author, it seems to me, greatly simplifies the whole model and how correctly he distributes roles - it is not clear, and most importantly, on what is this idea of ​​the world order based? The whole trouble of Russia is that we are constantly forced to be with someone, and we just need to be with ourselves and conduct exclusively our interests and those of our allies, and not any shadow backstage groups. In my opinion, the best choice in a similar scenario proposed by the author is not to choose at all and to bend your line, as the USSR did before the 53 year