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Iran will strengthen the Caspian fleet with elite troops

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The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps will deploy its units in the Caspian Sea, indicating that Iran has begun to attach greater importance to security in the Caspian region. A Corps officer told the Fars news agency that a training center would be established in the Caspian Sea, "whose task will be to prepare the naval units of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps to carry out the necessary operations in the waters of the Caspian Sea."


According to Fars, earlier security in the Caspian Sea was provided by the usual navy, and Corps units were responsible for the Persian Gulf. But the situation seems to have changed. "The Corps Naval Forces, currently protecting the country's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, will extend their activities to the Caspian Sea, although the security of the Iranian Caspian waters is under the jurisdiction of the country's naval forces."

This step was taken against the backdrop of the recent announcement of the intention of Russia and Iran to hold joint exercises in the Caspian Sea, as well as Iran’s own exercises "in order to demonstrate Iran’s ability to protect the country's territorial waters."

Alex Vatanka, an expert on security issues in the Iranian context at the Institute of the Middle East, told our blog that this move is most likely caused by silent tension with Azerbaijan over the sea border and, in particular, hydrocarbon deposits in its disputed areas.

“It is not worth it to relate to the deployment of units of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. Corps soldiers are, by their nature, more daring than ordinary soldiers fleet, which can lead to tension with other littoral states. This, of course, is especially true for Azerbaijan and this step [of Iran] is directed, in particular, against it. Iran recently announced the discovery of new hydrocarbon deposits in the Caspian and I suspect that it will explain the strengthening of the Navy, in particular, the need to protect its economic interests. Nevertheless, I do not think that Iran, at a strategic level, intends to open a new front line in the Caspian. No, I rather see this as a tactical move from Tehran to put pressure on Baku and, in general, get more leverage on the Caspian Sea for the future. ”

In Iranian media recently, a number of publications have appeared on the topic of security in the Caspian. In addition to the above links, read here, here and here (in English). All this opens up a new, intriguing page in stories naval arms race on the Caspian Sea.
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  1. Airman
    Airman 11 July 2013 12: 00 New
    +6
    Now it’s clear why Kazakhstan urgently ordered 2 minesweepers in Russia.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 11 July 2013 12: 09 New
      +4
      Quote: Povshnik
      Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps to deploy units in the Caspian


      If earlier the IRGC suppressed dissenters like the students' revolt in 2000, now they have the most modern weapons in their hands. His budget is incomparably larger than the army budget. And people from the IRGC occupy key places
      1. INTER
        INTER 11 July 2013 13: 29 New
        +4
        This step is aimed primarily in response to the Azerbaijani and Turkmen ambitions!
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 11 July 2013 18: 23 New
          +3
          Quote: INTER
          This step is aimed primarily in response to the Azerbaijani and Turkmen ambitions!

          What are the ambitions of Azerbaijan?))))
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay 11 July 2013 18: 22 New
        +3
        *** “It is not worth it to relate to the deployment of units of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. The Corps soldiers are by nature more impudent than the ordinary Navy, which can lead to tension with other Caspian states ** -what nonsense ???
        what are they impudent ???
        Sometimes freeze such stupidity !!)))
        1. Blackgrifon
          Blackgrifon 11 July 2013 21: 13 New
          0
          I don’t know about the temperament of the IRGC fighters, but the fact that the IRGC is better equipped and motivated is a fact. Another thing, what does the fleet and the IRGC have to do with it?
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 11 July 2013 21: 14 New
            +5
            Quote: Blackgrifon
            I don’t know about the temperament of the IRGC fighters, but the fact that the IRGC is better equipped and motivated is a fact

            Yes, they are equally equipped and motivated)))))
            Quote: Blackgrifon
            Another thing, what does the fleet and the IRGC have to do with it?
            Well, in principle, they have their own separate * fleet * of high-speed small boats!
        2. Hektor
          Hektor 11 July 2013 22: 45 New
          +3
          Well, why, according to the author, the remaining 500 thousand are impudent and cowardly, and generally they should not be counted ...

          In general, what kind of ambitions can we talk about when there is one corps with the Azerbaijani one (and the main forces, 3 motorized brigades and ALL support units are located or are located close to the combat zone), and there are three corps with the Iranian one, and the IRGC tank division is stationed in Ardabil, and this is if you do not remember about a trifle.
    2. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 14 July 2013 01: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: Povshnik
      Now it’s clear why Kazakhstan urgently ordered 2 minesweepers in Russia.

      So what? Does Kazakhstan border Iran on the Caspian? We are not going to fight with Iran, we have normal relations. The task of the border guards in the Caspian is primarily to protect against potential terrorists who could spoil our oil interests, protect fish from poachers (usually Russians), as well as in the event of a NATO invasion of Iran and the subsequent American occupation of this country. Then there will be a threat that NATO troops will appear in the Caspian. You understand that this will fundamentally change the situation in the region.
  2. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 11 July 2013 12: 01 New
    +4
    The wrong direction is being strengthened.
    1. Airman
      Airman 11 July 2013 12: 16 New
      0
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The wrong direction is being strengthened.


      Our interests in the Caspian are great, therefore we are also arming the Caspian flotilla with new vessels.
      1. tungus
        tungus 11 July 2013 13: 00 New
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The wrong direction is being strengthened.

        In my opinion, just that. Iran is proactive. States are trying to get into the Caspian Sea to control Central Asian oil and gas. Again, to ensure the safety of pipelines passing by Russia. These are their "vital interests." The main conductor of these ideas is entrusted to be Azerbaijan. The strengthening of the fleet in the Caspian, first by Russia, and then by Iran, indicates that the US has serious intentions and they will achieve their goal. Here are all the parties concerned and are militarized while there is time.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 11 July 2013 18: 25 New
          +3
          Quote: tungus
          Iran is proactive.

          Yes, nothing shines there for Iran!
          We see their coast with radars at a glance!
          Missiles Gabrielle and URAN-e will quickly sober up these !!
        2. Hektor
          Hektor 11 July 2013 22: 51 New
          +4
          Iran is proactive.


          When Saddam got into Kuwait, he also thought that he was ahead of the game ... and then the whole Middle East took up arms against him.
    2. Furnace driver
      Furnace driver 11 July 2013 13: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The wrong direction is being strengthened.

      Maybe ours in the Caspian are strengthening the wrong direction? Of all the states that have access to the Caspian, only two states can allow large-scale military operations in the Caspian. Russia seems not going to attack anyone, but from whom then is it defending itself?
      Given that Russia does not seek to attack its neighbors in the Caspian, it is asked why Iran should strengthen in this direction ... Unless they were going to fight with the Russians. There is no other explanation.
  3. Sader
    Sader 11 July 2013 12: 09 New
    +1
    that's why our c300 do not want to sell them
  4. smersh70
    smersh70 11 July 2013 12: 20 New
    +4
    once the mullah of Iran regime once ran into a fist)) .. if the US sets goals, they achieve them .... soon, and this regime will end.
    by the way, in the early 2000s, Iranian aircraft flew into the airspace of Azerbaijan ... the air defense was ready to bring them down ... plus the MIG-25s were raised by alarm .... but Heydar Aliyev did it wisely .... he canceled the order to shoot down. and settled politically --- planes arrived from Turkey and ostentatiously flew over Baku.))) .. then the GDP also threatened that it was not good to get into someone else's territory ..))))
    1. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 11 July 2013 21: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: smersh70
      once the mullah of Iran regime once ran into a fist)) .. if the US sets goals, they achieve them .... soon, and this regime will end.


      Mb I am mistaken, but as long as there is Iran, the UAE and Qatar will not climb into your country and into Russia with their militants.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 11 July 2013 21: 51 New
        +2
        Quote: Blackgrifon
        Mb I am mistaken, but as long as there is Iran, the UAE and Qatar will not climb into your country and into Russia with their militants.

        Do not be Iran still do not climb !!!)))
        This is Iran trying to climb to us, but so far without success!
        1. Blackgrifon
          Blackgrifon 12 July 2013 21: 34 New
          0
          Quote: Yarbay
          This is Iran trying to climb to us, but so far without success!


          He is climbing over everyone, but so far, it seems to me, Iran is an adversary and the main opponent of the Arab monarchies (which are already climbing everywhere), the latter are a little tied up. In the meantime, let them bite each other - the main thing is that there are no winners.
  5. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 11 July 2013 13: 23 New
    +4
    Quote: xasharat
    Azerbaijan also leads a discussion on the acquisition of new ships. A couple of these and you can sleep peacefully.


    This is a Swedish Visby corvette.
    At least a dozen of them - in which case - an eternal dream to the crews.
  6. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 11 July 2013 13: 29 New
    +1
    Quote: tungus
    [... The strengthening of the fleet in the Caspian, first by Russia and then by Iran, indicates that the US has serious intentions and they will achieve their goal ...

    Not sure.
    Rather, I’m sure that if they succeed, then not everything.
    Especially in the Caspian.
    Here, the British did not sit.
    And it is not easy for us with the Caspian states ... and they themselves are in difficult relationships with each other.
    1. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 12 July 2013 21: 35 New
      0
      Quote: Sergey S.
      And it is not easy for us with the Caspian states ... and they themselves are in difficult relationships with each other.


      That's for sure - how much blood has been shed in this region. But we are still simpler - we have been acting there since the 16th century.
  7. ed65b
    ed65b 11 July 2013 13: 31 New
    +5
    They started stirring about Azerbaijan. You can’t deal with Karabakh there, but are you ready to mate with Iran, your navel will not break? After all, you will be torn like a hot-water bottle.
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 11 July 2013 13: 42 New
      -3
      Quote: ed65b
      They started stirring about Azerbaijan. You can’t deal with Karabakh there, but are you ready to mate with Iran, your navel will not break? After all, you will be torn like a hot-water bottle.



      Ed65b .-- such a stun that you are with a stoic or fellow countryman or his relative smile ..the Azerbaijanis did something bad to you .... you write off topic ... one provocation on your mind)))) ...
      not drift ..... here the USA will definitely tear Iran)) you wrote here recently about Erdogan .. that the end to him and everything else ... I warned you - don’t say gop until you jump over)) ... forever your forecasts do not come true.) do not come true now ..... fellow
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 11 July 2013 13: 53 New
        +6
        Smersh. I am not a fortuneteller or fortuneteller. It seems to me exactly whether Erdogan will be in power or not. This is not all the same to you because you have signed up for them as allies. the fact that Iran for your soul is strengthening is obvious. We have no problems with him. But the rhetoric of your president makes you think not only of Armenians but also of Iran. Regarding my provocations, they calm down their fellow countrymen in the forefront.
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 11 July 2013 14: 28 New
          -1
          Quote: ed65b
          It doesn’t matter to you because you signed up for them as allies



          we don’t sign up to anyone, unlike your beloved neighbors ... we only signed up for the non-joining movement hi and about Iran let it strengthen, the flag in his hands !!!!! this is his right !!!
          and now the essence itself - read Zhirik’s speech today--
          Russia is constantly quarreling with the Muslim world. This was stated at a press conference on July 10 by the head of the LDPR faction in the State Duma of the Russian Federation Vladimir Zhirinovsky, Russian media reported.

          “Everything from the south, all this confrontation. It was impossible to enter Afghanistan - it was specifically provoked by entry to quarrel with the Muslim world, ”he said, Russian media reported. “They constantly quarrel, provoke. Armenia and Azerbaijan - on purpose! We are forced to defend Armenia, otherwise Turkey and Azerbaijan will destroy it and devour it. That's all. And all against Russia. Are we protecting Syria? Do we need this Assad (Syrian President Bashar Assad - ed.) Needed? This is the next blow to Iran, and Iran is the South Caucasus, ”he said.
          1. ed65b
            ed65b 11 July 2013 14: 47 New
            +4
            Do not take seriously the words and sayings of Vladimir Volfovich, he says a lot about Bush in Baghdad and about boots in the Indian Ocean too.
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 11 July 2013 15: 06 New
              +5
              Quote: ed65b
              Baghdad and about boots in the Indian Ocean too.



              but he openly says what they think about in the hearts of the Kremlin smile..It is clear that he is a buffoon, but he has been and has been led for many years))))
              1. klimpopov
                klimpopov 11 July 2013 15: 41 New
                +2
                Well, here I am. In general, an entertaining conversation unfolded. I’m sitting and watching - maybe I’ll put in my five cents hi
                1. Dober
                  Dober 11 July 2013 16: 31 New
                  +6
                  Quote: klimpopov
                  I'm sitting here watching

                  like 3 Azerbaijanis that there are forces hammering their hooves in the chest. Well, that's fine, you can even say GOOD. They feel support from the Turks, Amers, and with them the whole NATA. But this is no longer "good" in relation to Russia, in the markets of which they sell "their apricot"
                  But only from the rest of the forum users an obvious banter can be seen over the “confrontation” of Azerbaijan. / Write in full for a long time / and by the Persians. If they interlock, it will be extremely beneficial (possibly) to the rest of the Caspian countries and Israel, but certainly not to the belligerents themselves.
                  So the words of the song - "my dear, if only there was no war!"

                  PS. Klim, do not want to change the profile? There are a couple of options -
                  1. klimpopov
                    klimpopov 11 July 2013 16: 36 New
                    +1
                    Yes, next will be white Obama wassat good
                    but certainly not the belligerents themselves.

                    That's for sure...
              2. Blackgrifon
                Blackgrifon 12 July 2013 21: 38 New
                0
                Quote: smersh70
                but he openly says what they think about in the hearts of the Kremlin


                Something is not heard in the Kremlin thinking about the bathing of our soldiers in the Indian Ocean. All modern doctrine is aimed at defending borders and covering strategic allies.
                1. smersh70
                  smersh70 12 July 2013 21: 58 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Blackgrifon
                  All modern doctrine is aimed at defending borders and covering strategic allies.


                  when they think, of course they don’t hear fellow or it turns out that when you think someone hears you ..... laughing
                  Live and learn)))))))))))
                  1. Blackgrifon
                    Blackgrifon 20 July 2013 23: 13 New
                    0
                    Quote: smersh70
                    when they think, of course they don’t hear


                    When they think, they do it. Zhirinovsky periodically issues and not such "state secrets."
            2. klimpopov
              klimpopov 11 July 2013 15: 39 New
              +1
              What everyone has in mind is Zhirik's tongue! He has such a profession - to talk about what others are thinking! And by the way, he has occupied his niche and has been holding 20 for over odd years laughing and indeed bored without him, once even voted for him wassat
              1. smersh70
                smersh70 11 July 2013 15: 55 New
                +4
                Quote: klimpopov
                and generally bored without him,



                after a drink with the guys, when there’s nothing to say already)))) we usually put a duel between Zhirik and Khazanov from YouTube laughing cool drunk under them))))))))))))
                1. klimpopov
                  klimpopov 11 July 2013 16: 03 New
                  +1
                  Well, he's all about it! In general, he says rather clever things (it happens) that he is a poser and an epotazhnik - well, now on the modern political stage it’s no other way ... alas. Otherwise, the public will lose interest. But the sense of him, too ...
  8. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 11 July 2013 13: 33 New
    +3
    Quote: xasharat
    Plus, do not forget about the 30 million Azerbaijanis who live there, so that they don’t have enough !!!!


    About ten years ago I knew one Iranian Azerbaijani!
    How he thanked me for congratulations on Iran’s victory in a football match with the Americans ...
    How did he dream of uniting Azerbaijanis as part of Iran ...
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 11 July 2013 13: 48 New
      +2
      Not all Iranian Azerbaijanis have the same position!
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 11 July 2013 13: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: Sergey S.
      How did he dream of uniting Azerbaijanis as part of Iran ...



      it’s understandable that a person’s desire to unite his country !!!!! after all, the Germans did the same ...... God forbid to unite countries and citizens to unite .. hi
      By the way, the bulk of Iran’s elite is ethnic Azerbaijanis ... well, by the way ....
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 11 July 2013 13: 55 New
        0
        Quote: smersh70
        it’s understandable that a person’s desire to unite his country !!!!! because the Germans did the same

        Are you talking about the Anschluss of Austria and the union with the Sudeten Germans?
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 11 July 2013 14: 16 New
          0
          Quote: Spade
          Are you talking about the Anschluss of Austria and the union with the Sudeten Germans?


          Comrade Lopatov !!! I'm talking about the unification of the Federal Republic of Germany and the German Democratic Republic !!!!!!!!! hi oh how hard it is for me)))))))))))
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 11 July 2013 14: 34 New
            +2
            And you carefully read the posts that are answered

            Quote: Sergey S.
            How did he dream to unite Azerbaijanis as part of Iran ...


            Is Azerbaijan ready to become one of the Iranian regions?
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 11 July 2013 16: 49 New
              +6
              Quote: Spade
              Is Azerbaijan ready to become one of the Iranian regions?

              The Persians themselves will be the first to oppose this. Imagine a situation in the north of Iran where Azerbaijanis live compactly in the number of 30 million, and the northern region with a more secular and much larger nationalist population in the number of 9 million will join.
              Do you think Iran needs this ???
      2. ed65b
        ed65b 11 July 2013 14: 44 New
        0
        Quote: smersh70
        Quote: Sergey S.
        How did he dream of uniting Azerbaijanis as part of Iran ...



        it’s understandable that a person’s desire to unite his country !!!!! after all, the Germans did the same ...... God forbid to unite countries and citizens to unite .. hi
        By the way, the bulk of Iran’s elite is ethnic Azerbaijanis ... well, by the way ....

        You can’t say so Smersh, it’s what kind of carte blanche you gave the Armenians laughing
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 11 July 2013 14: 53 New
          +3
          Quote: ed65b
          You can’t say so Smersh, it’s what kind of carte blanche you gave the Armenians



          I understand you)))))))) these are 2 different things .... 30 million live in the south .. man-originally. in the north 10 million .. now consider neighbors --- and in Nagorno-Karabakh, all 125 thousand .. and also resettled to the territory of Azerbaijan (remember a monument in the Mardakert region in honor of the 175th anniversary of the resettlement of Armenians (built in 1978) ...
          1. ed65b
            ed65b 11 July 2013 15: 18 New
            +1
            About Kosovo, do not forget to have a precedent, the mono-ethnic majority squeezes the "outside" ethos and separates. Pandorra's box is open as GDP said.
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 11 July 2013 15: 32 New
              +5
              Quote: ed65b
              About Kosovo, do not forget the precedent, m



              Well, we are on the side of Serbia !!!!! and we just have excellent relations with it !!!!!! ... and after Kosovo they returned the platoon of our soldiers from there hi
    3. xetai9977
      xetai9977 11 July 2013 15: 03 New
      +4
      SERGEY S. About 10 years ago, Iran was rich and Azerbaijan was poor. Now the places have changed, and I’m more than sure that your friend wants to unite the country already under the Azerbaijani flag.
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. 11 July 2013 15: 42 New
        +4
        The point is not in wealth.
        And then this Azerbaijanian stood out among the Arabs and other Muslim friends (Africa and Asia) growth, article and determination.
        I asked him. why I have never met before, sorry for the details of our conversation, such "thoroughbred" Azerbaijanis. All my acquaintances from Azerbaijan in the former USSR were a little like him - tall. broad-shouldered, curly.
        To which he replied that real Azerbaijanis live in Iran, that they created modern Iran on the wreckage of Persia, and that those who once left Iran live in the Caucasus.
        He told a lot of interesting things about nations. But it was a long time ago. and I don’t remember everything.
        I only remembered - Come to us - we have the best country in the world, ”he stopped short and added,“ almost like Russia. ”
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 11 July 2013 15: 46 New
          +2
          Quote: Sergey S.
          All my acquaintances from Azerbaijan in the former USSR were a little like him - tall. broad-shouldered, curly.


          you’re probably caught growing less than 1.60 fellow

          Quote: Sergey S.
          Come to us - we have the best country in the world,


          come to us, to Kolyma .... no, better, you are better to us laughing
        2. Essenger
          Essenger 11 July 2013 17: 34 New
          -2
          Quote: Sergey S.
          Come to us - we have the best country in the world, ”he stopped short and added,“ almost like Russia


          Is he definitely Azerbaijani? I think he looks like one Armenian with the name Petrosyan)))
        3. xetai9977
          xetai9977 11 July 2013 18: 19 New
          +2
          SERGEY S. Yes, he told you the truth! After all, Iran became Persian only at the beginning of the 20th century with the advent of the Pahlavi dynasty (with the help of English bayonets). And for centuries Tabriz was the capital of Azerbaijan. Only you, not knowing the history of the region, did not understand it. And about the growth ... how did you manage to always meet the undersized Azerbaijanis? Personally, I have a height of 186cm at 95 kg. And most acquaintances and friends are the same. There are of course undersized, but who does not have them?
          1. Totenkopff
            Totenkopff 11 July 2013 19: 05 New
            -2
            Something from history I remember that the Persians are Iranians.
            1. xetai9977
              xetai9977 11 July 2013 20: 38 New
              +6
              You know the story poorly. The Russians are all entirely Russian?
    4. Essenger
      Essenger 11 July 2013 15: 19 New
      +2
      Quote: Sergey S.
      How did he dream of uniting Azerbaijanis as part of Iran


      we also have stupid people who dream of joining the russian federation.
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. 11 July 2013 15: 46 New
        +4
        I think that you offend people in vain.
        It is unlikely that they will be able to join Russia, but smart people will not refuse to join in a single Union, but on advanced social principles.
        You can speak different languages, the main thing is to dream of one thing - the happiness of children and personal dignity.
        And Russians know how to help friends.
        1. Essenger
          Essenger 11 July 2013 16: 18 New
          +1
          Quote: Sergey S.
          Unlikely to join Russia


          Yes, of course, we are working on this so that it does not succeed.
      2. klimpopov
        klimpopov 11 July 2013 15: 48 New
        +1
        And how many "stupid" people we have wassat
        And all the same, the Russian Federation-it is necessary to somehow observe the elementary framework! hi
        1. Essenger
          Essenger 11 July 2013 16: 24 New
          +2
          Quote: klimpopov
          And how many "stupid" people we have


          Thank God a little.

          Quote: klimpopov
          And all the same, the Russian Federation-it is necessary to somehow observe the elementary framework!


          firstly, if you haven’t noticed, there are no capital letters in my sentence.
          secondly, I’m not writing a dictation of the Russian language here. I try to express my opinion.
          thirdly, "elemental" is written through one "L"
          1. klimpopov
            klimpopov 11 July 2013 16: 45 New
            +1
            1. Ellementary - elementary AchEPyatKa!
            2.
            firstly, if you haven’t noticed, there are no capital letters in my sentence.

            I noticed - that's why I wrote ...
            3.
            secondly, I’m not writing a dictation of the Russian language here. I try to express my opinion.

            You know, when people try to express their opinion more or less competently, then they listen to it more.

            As we hear - we say so ...
  9. knn54
    knn54 11 July 2013 14: 00 New
    +4
    The US plans to help Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, and Kazakhstan deploy their own fleets as part of the Caspian Guard program. That is, REALLY creating a military group in the Caspian Sea, which the United States can also join. These republics reacted to the Russian CASFOR program with “coolness”. So the actions of the Russian Federation and Iran to strengthen their naval forces in the Caspian are quite justified.
    1. Ram chandra
      Ram chandra 11 July 2013 16: 30 New
      +4
      I hope that the Kazakhs will act smartly - they will take the fleet, but they will not clatter against Iran like Turkey against Syria.
      Although - well, these Americans with their own democracy. Then you won’t get into trouble.
      1. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 14 July 2013 01: 42 New
        +1
        Well, we already took a boat from the amers at the very beginning))) Yes, and a bunch of other equipment (only 120 Humvee ones), plus other nishtyaks from the United States. Even for many years they hung noodles on their ears that it would be possible to send troops to Afghanistan, but in reality we are heading for Washington. Two years ago, interesting documents surfaced on Wikileaks - the correspondence of the US ambassador to Kazakhstan with the US Secretary of Defense, where he openly complained that the Kazakhs are taking “gifts”, but are not even going to take any real steps towards rapprochement with NATO))))) )) Abydna, Mr. Ambassador was)
  10. dojjdik
    dojjdik 11 July 2013 14: 06 New
    +2
    all garbage: Azerbaijanis will never fight with the Persians; Jews of course want this - because they have access to the Caspian Sea; I think Elkhan understands that it will not work for Israel and Azerbaijan to pardon Azerbaijan; enough stupid and unnecessary wars, and so the western border is closed so also the southern one with Iran will be closed; Israel and American Jews standing behind him can not see Iranian oil and gas in any way; and the Caspian (and drilling) will be controlled by all the Caspian countries and not just by Israel alone
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 11 July 2013 14: 19 New
      0
      Quote: dojjdik
      Azerbaijanis will never fight with the Persians; Jews of course want this



      to read all this to Lopatov with ed56 ...))))))))))))))))
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 11 July 2013 22: 13 New
      +4
      Quote: dojjdik
      Jews certainly want this - because they have access to the Caspian Sea

      Jews have access to the Caspian Sea !!
      They are our friends, you are welcome)))))))))
  11. ed65b
    ed65b 11 July 2013 14: 42 New
    +1
    Can Azerbaijan buy a battleship on the cheap? put on a raid near baku, be the coolest in the Caspian. and what salutes can be given from the main caliber during parades, for the whole region.
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 11 July 2013 14: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: ed65b
      Can Azerbaijan buy a battleship on the cheap?


      if necessary, we will buy an aircraft carrier laughing the benefit of money is) and give the date of your birth, we will celebrate it with salutes ... wassat
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        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 11 July 2013 20: 45 New
          +5
          superbober71 Probably where do you live everyone cluck? Or does your upbringing such- do not allow discussion without vulgarity and insults?
    2. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 11 July 2013 15: 21 New
      +2
      APA reports that the President of the State Oil Company of the Republic of Azerbaijan, Rovnag Abdullayev, told reporters about this.

      He said that a shipbuilding plant is being built in Baku: “Currently, the plant is being built. In addition to civilian ships, this plant will implement the production of warships for the Navy and Coast Guard. ”
  12. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 11 July 2013 15: 10 New
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    I feel Khan is coming to Sev. to Azerbaijan. Not only from the Armenian highlands, but also from the Caspian side, too.
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 11 July 2013 15: 29 New
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      In recent years, Azerbaijan has made significant progress in modernizing and strengthening the Caspian fleet, which it inherited from the Soviet government. Today, the Navy of Azerbaijan in its power is the second after the Russian in the Caspian Sea. The Azerbaijani Navy consists of a brigade of mostly surface ships, which includes the Coast Guard Division, the Landing Ship Division, the Tractor Division, the Search and Rescue Ship Division and the Repair Ship Division. The VFM has at its disposal dozens of ships of various types and purposes. Since the beginning of the 2000-s, Azerbaijan has been closely cooperating with the United States and other partners in order to modernize the Caspian fleet. For the protection of strategically important objects of the oil and gas structure, the Special Forces are based in the VFM.

      Today, the Azerbaijani Navy is provided with personnel by the Azerbaijan Higher Naval School. In this matter, Azerbaijan is cooperating with the Turkish Navy. In addition, cooperation has been established between the Higher Naval School of Azerbaijan and the US Coast Guard Academy. Within the framework of the Work Plan for Military Cooperation signed between Azerbaijan and the USA, the main place is taken by the strengthening of maritime security of Azerbaijan. As part of the Work Plan, special forces of the Navy of Azerbaijan conduct military exercises in the field of conducting special military operations, ensuring the safety of the marine energy system, clearing mines, inspecting ships under any conditions in the Caspian Sea, preparing operations for lifting, searching and hijacking, underwater operations and coastal intelligence, etc. With the purchase of Gabriel-5 cruise missile anti-ship missiles from Israel, Azerbaijan has greatly strengthened its own positions in the Caspian.
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 11 July 2013 15: 33 New
      +3
      Quote: FC Skiff
      I feel



      and I can smell that you’ve smoked today laughing drinks
    3. xetai9977
      xetai9977 11 July 2013 20: 52 New
      +5
      fc skiff As they say in our Ganja "o sana elə gəlir" - it seems to you so.
  13. Totenkopff
    Totenkopff 11 July 2013 15: 54 New
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    Yes, and also in the field of ballet ahead of the rest.
  14. individual
    individual 11 July 2013 17: 49 New
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    The Caspian is an unresolved zone of problems of five states and each has its own interests.
    Everyone has their own approaches to the solution of the Caspian, and when, not when there will be aggravation.
    To protect interests, everyone pumps up their fleet.
  15. ed65b
    ed65b 11 July 2013 17: 49 New
    +1
    Quarrels, skirmishes, but is there anything Azerbaijan can answer to strengthen Iran and transfer the IRGC to the Caspian? There, after all, the guys didn’t make a finger. And surely they know how to fight no worse than the army of Azerbaijan. Yet fanaticism, insolence and personal devotion to the country's spiritual leaders. explosive mixture. In the Iraqi conflict, tanks lay down without hesitation. so fearlessness they do not occupy. Is the army of Azerbaijan so good to resist them?
  16. Megatron
    Megatron 11 July 2013 18: 13 New
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    Yes, what to tear the throat, then a powerful Azerbaijani lobby dug in.
    No constructivism.
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 11 July 2013 18: 16 New
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      It's right. Trenched reptiles dost corrode dust.
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 11 July 2013 21: 16 New
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        ED 65B Have you already experienced the effect of dust?
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 13 July 2013 00: 01 New
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      Quote: Megatron
      a powerful Azerbaijani lobby was dug in here.


      thank you friend !!!!!! for the high rating put to us !!!!!! it means that it was not in vain that we received the best Soviet education in the world .... it was not for nothing that we drank packs of black ko (v) f before the computer ..... . smoked a lot of cigarettes ... drinks
      it is necessary to adequately represent our position on the site and the opinion of our fellow citizens ...
      sometimes in conversation with friends I bring your thoughts ... and I write here the opinions of friends .... hi
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    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 11 July 2013 20: 39 New
      +4
      Quote: superbober71
      Iran during this time brought the humanoid (shipanze) into space and successfully completed the mission by returning the live monkey

      Only one flew away and the other returned
    2. Essenger
      Essenger 11 July 2013 21: 27 New
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      Quote: superbober71
      was an American litter


      And it says people from Ukraine? GESTURE !!!
  18. Totenkopff
    Totenkopff 11 July 2013 19: 02 New
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    Why are you enjoying the basin? Really kid says. I esteemed and do not feel your joy, you are a golem provocateur and Troll, only until the Azerbaijanis understand this, an analogue of the priest Gapon.
  19. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 11 July 2013 20: 31 New
    +5
    The discussion is dumb.
    Iranians people
    Azerbaijanis are people.
    There is nothing to pack them in bottles.
    The Iranians are great, that they go their own way without clinging to anyone.
    For this they respect from every normal person. They respect themselves. Therefore, they do not need someone else's freedom.
    Azerbaijanis, no matter how they say it, are dearer to us. Long and long lived together.
    In our cities there are still a lot of them, and such an impression, the farther, the more. They need to understand Russia nicer than the motherland.
    Azerbaijan can order any weapon, it can teach its officers in any hole, like America, with us they will still live in peace.

    And there are Armenians. Also friends of Russia, who have to cover up and protect. But what if the people with a tragic fate after the Turkish genocide of 1915 are still not calm at the borders. Armenians know the price of children's and women's blood better than many, and after Sumgait, the old wounds became unhealed.

    However, the fact that Russia is not abandoning friends in trouble is well known to Georgians - the people of Transcaucasia closest to Russians in spirit. This is a metamorphosis of history and politics ...
    It is a pity that we have to discuss such topics.
    I hope that I personally did not hurt anyone, moreover I did not offend national feelings.
    It is a pity that there is no USSR.
    Then such topics were raised only by empty chimes, which were not given in the industry due to incompetence. And the rest worked for the common good, who produced oil, who produced tractors, who served in the army. And there was a small military flotilla in the Caspian Sea, which was obviously not against Iran, but for the order and protection of marine ranges, on which the "Caspian Monster" flew.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 11 July 2013 21: 20 New
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      Quote: Sergey S.
      Armenians know the price of children's and women's blood better than many, and after Sumgait, the old wounds became unhealed.

      What kind of baby blood ???
      Armenians shed children's blood, yes, but they don’t know the price !!
      This we know the price of Armenian fascism!
      and in Sumgait, the Armenians killed the Armenians!
      You probably have not heard about Grigoryan?


      The same thing in 1915 in Turkey, the cities slaughtered Turks !!

      February 1915 Turkey. In the book of J. Malevil, “The Armenian Tragedy of 1915”, it is indicated that the number of civilian Muslim population of Eastern Anatolia, systematically destroyed by Armenian terrorist and bandit formations, barely reaches 1 people. According to the author, many Russian officers, outraged by this massacre, used force against Armenian thugs. Naturally, the atrocities and pogroms of the civilian population, coupled with the frank duplicity of Armenian propaganda, soon overflowed the patience of the Ottoman authorities, and on the order of the High Command on April 600, 000, the Ministry of Internal Affairs ordered the immediate closure of all Armenian committees - terrorist organizations in Istanbul and other major Turkish cities.
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 11 July 2013 21: 32 New
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      Quote: Sergey S.
      Armenians know the price of children's and women's blood better than many,

      Armenians know how to shed children's and women's blood !!
      Rather, the Armenian fascists!
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 11 July 2013 21: 57 New
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        Regarding the massacre of civilians by the Armenians during the conflict in Karabakh, I read the memory of the Armenian commander, he directly states that this was done consciously and specifically to undermine the morale of Azerbaijanis and as an indication that they will go to the end. So crimes are not justified by any higher considerations. Kill the warrior in battle, do not touch women, the elderly, children, especially children. And frozen lumps with dead women on the slopes of the mountains. Horror. The softest epithet.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 11 July 2013 22: 01 New
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          Quote: ed65b
          I read the memory of the Armenian commander, he directly states that this was done consciously and specifically to undermine the morale of Azerbaijanis and as an indicator that they will go to the end.
          This is not the memory of the Armenian commander)))))) do not lie !!!!)))
          This was an interview with the current President of Armenia Sargsyan, then he commanded the detachments of terrorists Tom de Val !!
          Otherwise, you are right!
          But I assure you, you can’t even imagine what horror is!
  20. ed65b
    ed65b 11 July 2013 22: 05 New
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    Quote: Yarbay
    This was an interview with the current President of Armenia Sargsyan, he then commanded the troops

    since he commanded it means he was a commander where do you see a lie?
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 11 July 2013 22: 06 New
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      Quote: ed65b
      since he commanded it means he was a commander where do you see a lie?

      he was a financier))))
      he financed these gangs and organized, an ordinary terrorist, a gangster !!
      he just did not write memories !!
      Now he would be glad to give up his words!
  21. ed65b
    ed65b 11 July 2013 22: 37 New
    +2
    If you think that I justify war crimes, then you are deeply mistaken. All those responsible for crimes must answer according to the law. it doesn’t work out according to the secular, there will be a judgment of God, and there you will not hide and you will not bother. All will receive according to their deeds.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 11 July 2013 23: 41 New
      +4
      Quote: ed65b
      All those responsible for crimes must answer according to the law. it doesn’t work out in a secular way, there will be a judgment of God, and there you will not hide and you will not bomber. Anyone will receive according to his deeds.

      It's right!!
  22. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 11 July 2013 23: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: ed65b
    If you think that I justify war crimes, then you are deeply mistaken. All those responsible for crimes must answer according to the law. it doesn’t work out according to the secular, there will be a judgment of God, and there you will not hide and you will not bother. All will receive according to their deeds.

    I agree.
    But the judgment of God is running low.
    For no matter what people do, God's punishment does not come ...
    For me personally, the Great Patriotic War border.
    In the Leningrad blockade, only 641 people died from hunger and cold officially. I remember this figure from childhood. understand. that this is not complete data ...
    And no god, nor Jesus. Allah did not intercede for them and did not punish the monsters.
    the work of God was accomplished by the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army. Ready to pray on her now.
  23. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 11 July 2013 23: 28 New
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    Azerbaijanis!
    War crimes are crimes.
    But as the war in Chechnya has shown, the question is not simple in each particular case. It is hard to believe that a normal person will kill another person just like that.
    But the fact that it was the Armenians who often had to escape from their homes was a fact.
    Probably one of them took revenge, took revenge cruelly and unjustifiably.
    Although the opposite side can also be understood. After all, not every nation is driven from place to place like that ...
    Too many reptiles in the media that scare stories or make dishonest comments.

    Solids:
    It is disgusting to live with the concepts of the Middle Ages.
    Especially after a period of no, but friendship of peoples. Let it be naive, but sincere for ordinary people.
    To cool.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 11 July 2013 23: 43 New
      +4
      Quote: Sergey S.
      But as the war in Chechnya has shown, the question is not simple in each particular case.

      No, the question is simple!
      There are people and there are fighters !!
  24. valokordin
    valokordin 12 July 2013 06: 29 New
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    Aliev probably needs to build an aircraft carrier. If he wants, he will. I can imagine how on this aircraft carrier he will sail to Makakhachkala for joint exercises.
  25. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 13 July 2013 00: 32 New
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    Quote: Yarbay
    There are people and there are fighters !!

    The Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army are fighters!

    But participants in interethnic conflicts, even with the most decent behavior, should not be among the heroes.
    For a war against a people (even a stranger) is a tragedy for a normal peasant.