Iran will strengthen the Caspian fleet with elite troops

The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps will deploy its units in the Caspian Sea, indicating that Iran has begun to attach greater importance to security in the Caspian region. A Corps officer told the Fars news agency that a training center would be established in the Caspian Sea, "whose task will be to prepare the naval units of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps to carry out the necessary operations in the waters of the Caspian Sea."

According to Fars, earlier security in the Caspian Sea was provided by the usual navy, and Corps units were responsible for the Persian Gulf. But the situation seems to have changed. "The Corps Naval Forces, currently protecting the country's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, will extend their activities to the Caspian Sea, although the security of the Iranian Caspian waters is under the jurisdiction of the country's naval forces."

This step was taken against the backdrop of the recent announcement of the intention of Russia and Iran to hold joint exercises in the Caspian Sea, as well as Iran’s own exercises "in order to demonstrate Iran’s ability to protect the country's territorial waters."

Alex Vatanka, an expert on security issues in the Iranian context at the Institute of the Middle East, told our blog that this move is most likely caused by silent tension with Azerbaijan over the sea border and, in particular, hydrocarbon deposits in its disputed areas.

“It is not worth it to relate to the deployment of units of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. Corps soldiers are, by their nature, more daring than ordinary soldiers fleet, which can lead to tension with other littoral states. This, of course, is especially true for Azerbaijan and this step [of Iran] is directed, in particular, against it. Iran recently announced the discovery of new hydrocarbon deposits in the Caspian and I suspect that it will explain the strengthening of the Navy, in particular, the need to protect its economic interests. Nevertheless, I do not think that Iran, at a strategic level, intends to open a new front line in the Caspian. No, I rather see this as a tactical move from Tehran to put pressure on Baku and, in general, get more leverage on the Caspian Sea for the future. ”

In Iranian media recently, a number of publications have appeared on the topic of security in the Caspian. In addition to the above links, read here, here and here (in English). All this opens up a new, intriguing page in stories naval arms race on the Caspian Sea.

Comments

[Airman]

Now it’s clear why Kazakhstan urgently ordered 2 minesweepers in Russia.

[Vadivak]

Quote: Povshnik

Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps to deploy units in the Caspian

If earlier the IRGC suppressed dissenters like the students' revolt in 2000, now they have the most modern weapons in their hands. His budget is incomparably larger than the army budget. And people from the IRGC occupy key places

[INTER]

This step is aimed primarily in response to the Azerbaijani and Turkmen ambitions!

[Yarbay]

Quote: INTER

This step is aimed primarily in response to the Azerbaijani and Turkmen ambitions!

What are the ambitions of Azerbaijan?))))

[Yarbay]

*** “It is not worth it to relate to the deployment of units of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. The Corps soldiers are by nature more impudent than the ordinary Navy, which can lead to tension with other Caspian states ** -what nonsense ???
what are they impudent ???
Sometimes freeze such stupidity !!)))

[Blackgrifon]

I don’t know about the temperament of the IRGC fighters, but the fact that the IRGC is better equipped and motivated is a fact. Another thing, what does the fleet and the IRGC have to do with it?

[Yarbay]

Quote: Blackgrifon

I don’t know about the temperament of the IRGC fighters, but the fact that the IRGC is better equipped and motivated is a fact

Yes, they are equally equipped and motivated)))))

Quote: Blackgrifon

Another thing, what does the fleet and the IRGC have to do with it?

Well, in principle, they have their own separate * fleet * of high-speed small boats!

[Hektor]

Well, why, according to the author, the remaining 500 thousand are impudent and cowardly, and generally they should not be counted ...

In general, what kind of ambitions can we talk about when there is one corps with the Azerbaijani one (and the main forces, 3 motorized brigades and ALL support units are located or are located close to the combat zone), and there are three corps with the Iranian one, and the IRGC tank division is stationed in Ardabil, and this is if you do not remember about a trifle.

[Marek Rozny]

Quote: Povshnik

Now it’s clear why Kazakhstan urgently ordered 2 minesweepers in Russia.

So what? Does Kazakhstan border Iran on the Caspian? We are not going to fight with Iran, we have normal relations. The task of the border guards in the Caspian is primarily to protect against potential terrorists who could spoil our oil interests, protect fish from poachers (usually Russians), as well as in the event of a NATO invasion of Iran and the subsequent American occupation of this country. Then there will be a threat that NATO troops will appear in the Caspian. You understand that this will fundamentally change the situation in the region.

[Alexander Romanov]

The wrong direction is being strengthened.

[Airman]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

The wrong direction is being strengthened.

Our interests in the Caspian are great, therefore we are also arming the Caspian flotilla with new vessels.

[tungus]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

The wrong direction is being strengthened.

In my opinion, just that. Iran is proactive. The States are trying to get into the Caspian Sea to control Central Asian oil and gas. Again, to ensure the safety of pipelines passing by Russia. These are their "vital interests". Azerbaijan was entrusted to be the main conductor of these ideas. Strengthening the fleet in the Caspian, first by Russia, and then by Iran, suggests that the US intentions are serious and they will achieve their goal. All interested parties are militarizing while there is still time.

[Yarbay]

Quote: tungus

Iran is proactive.

Yes, nothing shines there for Iran!
We see their coast with radars at a glance!
Missiles Gabrielle and URAN-e will quickly sober up these !!

[Hektor]

Iran is proactive.

When Saddam got into Kuwait, he also thought that he was ahead of the game ... and then the whole Middle East took up arms against him.

[Furnace driver]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

The wrong direction is being strengthened.

Maybe ours in the Caspian are strengthening the wrong direction? Of all the states that have access to the Caspian, only two states can allow large-scale military operations in the Caspian. Russia seems not going to attack anyone, but from whom then is it defending itself?
Given that Russia does not seek to attack its neighbors in the Caspian, it is asked why Iran should strengthen in this direction ... Unless they were going to fight with the Russians. There is no other explanation.

[sader]

that's why our c300 do not want to sell them

[smersh70]

once the mullah of Iran regime once ran into a fist)) .. if the US sets goals, they achieve them .... soon, and this regime will end.
by the way, in the early 2000s, Iranian aircraft flew into the airspace of Azerbaijan ... the air defense was ready to bring them down ... plus the MIG-25s were raised by alarm .... but Heydar Aliyev did it wisely .... he canceled the order to shoot down. and settled politically --- planes arrived from Turkey and ostentatiously flew over Baku.))) .. then the GDP also threatened that it was not good to get into someone else's territory ..))))

[Blackgrifon]

Quote: smersh70

once the mullah of Iran regime once ran into a fist)) .. if the US sets goals, they achieve them .... soon, and this regime will end.

Mb I am mistaken, but as long as there is Iran, the UAE and Qatar will not climb into your country and into Russia with their militants.

[Yarbay]

Quote: Blackgrifon

Mb I am mistaken, but as long as there is Iran, the UAE and Qatar will not climb into your country and into Russia with their militants.

Do not be Iran still do not climb !!!)))
This is Iran trying to climb to us, but so far without success!

[Blackgrifon]

Quote: Yarbay

This is Iran trying to climb to us, but so far without success!

He is climbing over everyone, but so far, it seems to me, Iran is an adversary and the main opponent of the Arab monarchies (which are already climbing everywhere), the latter are a little tied up. In the meantime, let them bite each other - the main thing is that there are no winners.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: xasharat

Azerbaijan also leads a discussion on the acquisition of new ships. A couple of these and you can sleep peacefully.

This is a Swedish corvette of the Visby class.
At least a dozen of them - in which case - an eternal dream to the crews.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: tungus

[... The strengthening of the fleet in the Caspian, first by Russia and then by Iran, indicates that the US has serious intentions and they will achieve their goal ...

Not sure.
Rather, I’m sure that if they succeed, then not everything.
Especially in the Caspian.
Here, the British did not sit.
And it is not easy for us with the Caspian states ... and they themselves are in difficult relationships with each other.

[Blackgrifon]

Quote: Sergey S.

And it is not easy for us with the Caspian states ... and they themselves are in difficult relationships with each other.

That's for sure - how much blood has been shed in this region. But we are still simpler - we have been acting there since the 16th century.

[ed65b]

They started stirring about Azerbaijan. You can’t deal with Karabakh there, but are you ready to mate with Iran, your navel will not break? After all, you will be torn like a hot-water bottle.

[smersh70]

Quote: ed65b

They started stirring about Azerbaijan. You can’t deal with Karabakh there, but are you ready to mate with Iran, your navel will not break? After all, you will be torn like a hot-water bottle.

Ed65b .-- such a stun that you are with a stoic or fellow countryman or his relative ..the Azerbaijanis did something bad to you .... you write off topic ... one provocation on your mind)))) ...
not drift ..... here the USA will definitely tear Iran)) you wrote here recently about Erdogan .. that the end to him and everything else ... I warned you - don’t say gop until you jump over)) ... forever your forecasts do not come true.) do not come true now .....

[ed65b]

Smersh. I am not a fortuneteller or fortuneteller. It seems to me exactly whether Erdogan will be in power or not. This is not all the same to you because you have signed up for them as allies. the fact that Iran for your soul is strengthening is obvious. We have no problems with him. But the rhetoric of your president makes you think not only of Armenians but also of Iran. Regarding my provocations, they calm down their fellow countrymen in the forefront.

[smersh70]

Quote: ed65b

It doesn’t matter to you because you signed up for them as allies

we don’t sign up to anyone, unlike your beloved neighbors ... we only signed up for the non-joining movement and about Iran let it strengthen, the flag in his hands !!!!! this is his right !!!
and now the essence itself - read Zhirik’s speech today--
Russia is constantly quarreling with the Muslim world. This was stated at a press conference on July 10 by the head of the LDPR faction in the State Duma of the Russian Federation Vladimir Zhirinovsky, Russian media reported.

“Everything from the south, all this confrontation. It was impossible to enter Afghanistan - it was specifically provoked by entry to quarrel with the Muslim world, ”he said, Russian media reported. “They constantly quarrel, provoke. Armenia and Azerbaijan - on purpose! We are forced to defend Armenia, otherwise Turkey and Azerbaijan will destroy it and devour it. That's all. And all against Russia. Are we protecting Syria? Do we need this Assad (Syrian President Bashar Assad - ed.) Needed? This is the next blow to Iran, and Iran is the South Caucasus, ”he said.

[ed65b]

Do not take seriously the words and sayings of Vladimir Volfovich, he says a lot about Bush in Baghdad and about boots in the Indian Ocean too.

[smersh70]

Quote: ed65b

Baghdad and about boots in the Indian Ocean too.

but he openly says what they think about in the hearts of the Kremlin ..It is clear that he is a buffoon, but he has been and has been led for many years))))

[klimpopov]

Well, here I am. In general, an entertaining conversation unfolded. I’m sitting and watching - maybe I’ll put in my five cents

[Dober]

Quote: klimpopov

I'm sitting here watching

like 3 Azerbaijanis with all their strength thrash themselves in the chest with a hoof. Well, this is normal, you can even say GOOD. They feel support from the Turks, amers, and with them the whole NATA. But this is no longer "good" in relation to Russia, in the markets of which they sell "their apricot"
But from the side of the rest of the members of the forum there is a clear STEB over the "confrontation" of Azerbaijan / write in full for a long time / and the Persians. If they clash, then it will be extremely beneficial (possibly) to the rest of the Caspian countries and Israel, but certainly not to the belligerents themselves.
So the words of the song - "my dear, if only there was no war!"

PS. Klim, do not want to change the profile? There are a couple of options -

[klimpopov]

Yes, next will be white Obama

but certainly not the belligerents themselves.

That's for sure...

[Blackgrifon]

Quote: smersh70

but he openly says what they think about in the hearts of the Kremlin

Something is not heard in the Kremlin thinking about the bathing of our soldiers in the Indian Ocean. All modern doctrine is aimed at defending borders and covering strategic allies.

[smersh70]

Quote: Blackgrifon

All modern doctrine is aimed at defending borders and covering strategic allies.

when they think, of course they don’t hear or it turns out that when you think someone hears you .....
Live and learn)))))))))))

[Blackgrifon]

Quote: smersh70

when they think, of course they don’t hear

When they think, they do. Zhirinovsky periodically issues not such "state secrets".

[klimpopov]

What everyone has in mind is Zhirik's tongue! He has such a profession - to talk about what others are thinking! And by the way, he has occupied his niche and has been holding 20 for over odd years and indeed bored without him, once even voted for him

[smersh70]

Quote: klimpopov

and generally bored without him,

after a drink with the guys, when there’s nothing to say already)))) we usually put a duel between Zhirik and Khazanov from YouTube cool drunk under them))))))))))))

[klimpopov]

Well, he's all about it! In general, he says rather clever things (it happens) that he is a poser and an epotazhnik - well, now on the modern political stage it’s no other way ... alas. Otherwise, the public will lose interest. But the sense of him, too ...

[Sergey S.]

Quote: xasharat

Plus, do not forget about the 30 million Azerbaijanis who live there, so that they don’t have enough !!!!

About ten years ago I knew one Iranian Azerbaijani!
How he thanked me for congratulations on Iran’s victory in a football match with the Americans ...
How did he dream of uniting Azerbaijanis as part of Iran ...

[ayyildiz]

Not all Iranian Azerbaijanis have the same position!

[smersh70]

Quote: Sergey S.

How did he dream of uniting Azerbaijanis as part of Iran ...

it’s understandable that a person’s desire to unite his country !!!!! after all, the Germans did the same ...... God forbid to unite countries and citizens to unite ..
By the way, the bulk of Iran’s elite is ethnic Azerbaijanis ... well, by the way ....

[Lopatov]

Quote: smersh70

it’s understandable that a person’s desire to unite his country !!!!! because the Germans did the same

Are you talking about the Anschluss of Austria and the union with the Sudeten Germans?

[smersh70]

Quote: Spade

Are you talking about the Anschluss of Austria and the union with the Sudeten Germans?

Comrade Lopatov !!! I'm talking about the unification of the Federal Republic of Germany and the German Democratic Republic !!!!!!!!! oh how hard it is for me)))))))))))

[Lopatov]

And you carefully read the posts that are answered

Quote: Sergey S.

How did he dream to unite Azerbaijanis as part of Iran ...

Is Azerbaijan ready to become one of the Iranian regions?

[Yeraz]

Quote: Spade

Is Azerbaijan ready to become one of the Iranian regions?

The Persians themselves will be the first to oppose this. Imagine a situation in the north of Iran where Azerbaijanis live compactly in the number of 30 million, and the northern region with a more secular and much larger nationalist population in the number of 9 million will join.
Do you think Iran needs this ???

[ed65b]

Quote: smersh70

Quote: Sergey S.

How did he dream of uniting Azerbaijanis as part of Iran ...

it’s understandable that a person’s desire to unite his country !!!!! after all, the Germans did the same ...... God forbid to unite countries and citizens to unite ..
By the way, the bulk of Iran’s elite is ethnic Azerbaijanis ... well, by the way ....

You can’t say so Smersh, it’s what kind of carte blanche you gave the Armenians

[smersh70]

Quote: ed65b

You can’t say so Smersh, it’s what kind of carte blanche you gave the Armenians

I understand you)))))))) these are 2 different things .... 30 million live in the south .. man-originally. in the north 10 million .. now consider neighbors --- and in Nagorno-Karabakh, all 125 thousand .. and also resettled to the territory of Azerbaijan (remember a monument in the Mardakert region in honor of the 175th anniversary of the resettlement of Armenians (built in 1978) ...

[ed65b]

Do not forget there is a precedent about Kosovo, the mono-ethnic majority squeezes out the "third-party" ethnos and separates. Pandorra's box is open as VVP said.

[smersh70]

Quote: ed65b

About Kosovo, do not forget the precedent, m

Well, we are on the side of Serbia !!!!! and we just have excellent relations with it !!!!!! ... and after Kosovo they returned the platoon of our soldiers from there

[xetai9977]

SERGEY S. About 10 years ago, Iran was rich and Azerbaijan was poor. Now the places have changed, and I’m more than sure that your friend wants to unite the country already under the Azerbaijani flag.

[Sergey S.]

The point is not in wealth.
And then this Azerbaijanian stood out among the Arabs and other Muslim friends (Africa and Asia) growth, article and determination.
I asked him. why have I never met, sorry for the details of our conversation, such "thoroughbred" Azerbaijanis. All my Azeri acquaintances in the former USSR were not much like him - tall. broad-shouldered, curly.
To which he replied that real Azerbaijanis live in Iran, that they created modern Iran on the wreckage of Persia, and that those who once left Iran live in the Caucasus.
He told a lot of interesting things about nations. But it was a long time ago. and I don’t remember everything.
I only remembered - Come to us - we have the best country in the world, ”he stopped short and added,“ almost like Russia. ”

[smersh70]

Quote: Sergey S.

All my acquaintances from Azerbaijan in the former USSR were a little like him - tall. broad-shouldered, curly.

you’re probably caught growing less than 1.60

Quote: Sergey S.

Come to us - we have the best country in the world,

come to us, to Kolyma .... no, better, you are better to us

[essenger]

Quote: Sergey S.

Come to us - we have the best country in the world, ”he stopped short and added,“ almost like Russia

Is he definitely Azerbaijani? I think he looks like one Armenian with the name Petrosyan)))

[xetai9977]

SERGEY S. Yes, he told you the truth! After all, Iran became Persian only at the beginning of the 20th century with the advent of the Pahlavi dynasty (with the help of English bayonets). And for centuries Tabriz was the capital of Azerbaijan. Only you, not knowing the history of the region, did not understand it. And about the growth ... how did you manage to always meet the undersized Azerbaijanis? Personally, I have a height of 186cm at 95 kg. And most acquaintances and friends are the same. There are of course undersized, but who does not have them?

[Totenkopff]

Something from history I remember that the Persians are Iranians.

[xetai9977]

You know the story poorly. The Russians are all entirely Russian?

[essenger]

Quote: Sergey S.

How did he dream of uniting Azerbaijanis as part of Iran

we also have stupid people who dream of joining the russian federation.

[Sergey S.]

I think that you offend people in vain.
It is unlikely that they will be able to join Russia, but smart people will not refuse to join in a single Union, but on advanced social principles.
You can speak different languages, the main thing is to dream of one thing - the happiness of children and personal dignity.
And Russians know how to help friends.

[essenger]

Quote: Sergey S.

Unlikely to join Russia

Yes, of course, we are working on this so that it does not succeed.

[klimpopov]

And how many "stupid" people we have
And all the same, the Russian Federation-it is necessary to somehow observe the elementary framework!

[essenger]

Quote: klimpopov

And how many "stupid" people we have

Thank God a little.

Quote: klimpopov

And all the same, the Russian Federation-it is necessary to somehow observe the elementary framework!

firstly, if you haven’t noticed, there are no capital letters in my sentence.
secondly, I’m not writing a dictation of the Russian language here. I try to express my opinion.
thirdly, "elemental" is spelled with one "L"

[klimpopov]

1. Ellementary - elementary AchEPyatKa!
2.

firstly, if you haven’t noticed, there are no capital letters in my sentence.

I noticed - that's why I wrote ...
3.

secondly, I’m not writing a dictation of the Russian language here. I try to express my opinion.

You know, when people try to express their opinion more or less competently, then they listen to it more.

As we hear - we say so ...

[knn54]

The US plans to help Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, and Kazakhstan deploy their own fleets as part of the Caspian Guard program. That is, REALLY creating a military group in the Caspian Sea, which the United States can also join. These republics reacted to the Russian CASFOR program with “coolness”. So the actions of the Russian Federation and Iran to strengthen their naval forces in the Caspian are quite justified.

[Ram chandra]

I hope that the Kazakhs will act smartly - they will take the fleet, but they will not clatter against Iran like Turkey against Syria.
Although - well, these Americans with their own democracy. Then you won’t get into trouble.

[Marek Rozny]

Well, we already took boats from amers at the very beginning))) And a bunch of other equipment (only 120 Humvees), plus other goodies from the United States. Even for many years they were hanging on to the idea that perhaps we would send troops to Afghanistan, but in fact we are following Washington's ears. Two years ago, interesting documents surfaced on Wikilix - the correspondence between the US Ambassador to Kazakhstan and the US Secretary of Defense, where he openly complained that the Kazakhs were taking "gifts", but they were not even going to take any real steps towards rapprochement with NATO))))) )) Abydna the ambassador was)

[dojjdik]

all garbage: Azerbaijanis will never fight with the Persians; Jews of course want this - because they have access to the Caspian Sea; I think Elkhan understands that it will not work for Israel and Azerbaijan to pardon Azerbaijan; enough stupid and unnecessary wars, and so the western border is closed so also the southern one with Iran will be closed; Israel and American Jews standing behind him can not see Iranian oil and gas in any way; and the Caspian (and drilling) will be controlled by all the Caspian countries and not just by Israel alone

[smersh70]

Quote: dojjdik

Azerbaijanis will never fight with the Persians; Jews of course want this

to read all this to Lopatov with ed56 ...))))))))))))))))

[Yarbay]

Quote: dojjdik

Jews certainly want this - because they have access to the Caspian Sea

Jews have access to the Caspian Sea !!
They are our friends, you are welcome)))))))))

[ed65b]

Can Azerbaijan buy a battleship on the cheap? put on a raid near baku, be the coolest in the Caspian. and what salutes can be given from the main caliber during parades, for the whole region.

[smersh70]

Quote: ed65b

Can Azerbaijan buy a battleship on the cheap?

if necessary, we will buy an aircraft carrier the benefit of money is) and give the date of your birth, we will celebrate it with salutes ...

[xetai9977]

superbober71 Probably where do you live everyone cluck? Or does your upbringing such- do not allow discussion without vulgarity and insults?

[ayyildiz]

APA reports that the President of the State Oil Company of the Republic of Azerbaijan, Rovnag Abdullayev, told reporters about this.

He said that a shipbuilding plant is being built in Baku: “Currently, the plant is being built. In addition to civilian ships, this plant will implement the production of warships for the Navy and Coast Guard. ”

[FC SKIF]

I feel Khan is coming to Sev. to Azerbaijan. Not only from the Armenian highlands, but also from the Caspian side, too.

[ayyildiz]

In recent years, Azerbaijan has made significant progress in modernizing and strengthening the Caspian fleet, which it inherited from the Soviet government. Today, the Navy of Azerbaijan in its power is the second after the Russian in the Caspian Sea. The Azerbaijani Navy consists of a brigade of mostly surface ships, which includes the Coast Guard Division, the Landing Ship Division, the Tractor Division, the Search and Rescue Ship Division and the Repair Ship Division. The VFM has at its disposal dozens of ships of various types and purposes. Since the beginning of the 2000-s, Azerbaijan has been closely cooperating with the United States and other partners in order to modernize the Caspian fleet. For the protection of strategically important objects of the oil and gas structure, the Special Forces are based in the VFM.

Today, the Azerbaijani Navy is provided with personnel by the Azerbaijan Higher Naval School. In this matter, Azerbaijan is cooperating with the Turkish Navy. In addition, cooperation has been established between the Higher Naval School of Azerbaijan and the US Coast Guard Academy. Within the framework of the Work Plan for Military Cooperation signed between Azerbaijan and the USA, the main place is taken by the strengthening of maritime security of Azerbaijan. As part of the Work Plan, special forces of the Navy of Azerbaijan conduct military exercises in the field of conducting special military operations, ensuring the safety of the marine energy system, clearing mines, inspecting ships under any conditions in the Caspian Sea, preparing operations for lifting, searching and hijacking, underwater operations and coastal intelligence, etc. With the purchase of Gabriel-5 cruise missile anti-ship missiles from Israel, Azerbaijan has greatly strengthened its own positions in the Caspian.

[smersh70]

Quote: FC Skif

I feel

and I can smell that you’ve smoked today

[xetai9977]

fc Scyth As they say in our Ganja "o sana elə gəlir" - it seems so to you.

[Totenkopff]

Yes, and also in the field of ballet ahead of the rest.

[individual]

The Caspian is an unresolved zone of problems of five states and each has its own interests.
Everyone has their own approaches to the solution of the Caspian, and when, not when there will be aggravation.
To protect interests, everyone pumps up their fleet.

[ed65b]

Quarrels, skirmishes, but is there anything Azerbaijan can answer to strengthen Iran and transfer the IRGC to the Caspian? There, after all, the guys didn’t make a finger. And surely they know how to fight no worse than the army of Azerbaijan. Yet fanaticism, insolence and personal devotion to the country's spiritual leaders. explosive mixture. In the Iraqi conflict, tanks lay down without hesitation. so fearlessness they do not occupy. Is the army of Azerbaijan so good to resist them?

[Megatron]

Yes, what to tear the throat, then a powerful Azerbaijani lobby dug in.
No constructivism.

[ed65b]

It's right. Trenched reptiles dost corrode dust.

[xetai9977]

ED 65B Have you already experienced the effect of dust?

[smersh70]

Quote: Megatron

a powerful Azerbaijani lobby was dug in here.

thank you friend !!!!!! for the high rating put to us !!!!!! it means that it was not in vain that we received the best Soviet education in the world .... it was not for nothing that we drank packs of black ko (v) f before the computer ..... . smoked a lot of cigarettes ...
it is necessary to adequately represent our position on the site and the opinion of our fellow citizens ...
sometimes in conversation with friends I bring your thoughts ... and I write here the opinions of friends ....

[ayyildiz]

Quote: superbober71

Iran during this time brought the humanoid (shipanze) into space and successfully completed the mission by returning the live monkey

Only one flew away and the other returned

[essenger]

Quote: superbober71

was an American litter

And it says people from Ukraine? GESTURE !!!

[Totenkopff]

Why are you enjoying the basin? Really kid says. I esteemed and do not feel your joy, you are a golem provocateur and Troll, only until the Azerbaijanis understand this, an analogue of the priest Gapon.

[Sergey S.]

The discussion is dumb.
Iranians people
Azerbaijanis are people.
There is nothing to pack them in bottles.
The Iranians are great, that they go their own way without clinging to anyone.
For this they respect from every normal person. They respect themselves. Therefore, they do not need someone else's freedom.
Azerbaijanis, no matter how they say it, are dearer to us. Long and long lived together.
In our cities there are still a lot of them, and such an impression, the farther, the more. They need to understand Russia nicer than the motherland.
Azerbaijan can order any weapon, it can teach its officers in any hole, like America, with us they will still live in peace.

And there are Armenians. Also friends of Russia, who have to cover up and protect. But what if the people with a tragic fate after the Turkish genocide of 1915 are still not calm at the borders. Armenians know the price of children's and women's blood better than many, and after Sumgait, the old wounds became unhealed.

However, the fact that Russia is not abandoning friends in trouble is well known to Georgians - the people of Transcaucasia closest to Russians in spirit. This is a metamorphosis of history and politics ...
It is a pity that we have to discuss such topics.
I hope that I personally did not hurt anyone, moreover I did not offend national feelings.
It is a pity that there is no USSR.
Then such topics were raised only by windbags, which were not allowed to move in production due to incompetence. And the rest worked for the common good, who extracted oil, who produced tractors, who served in the army. And there was a small military flotilla in the Caspian Sea, obviously not intimidating Iran, but for order and protection of the sea ranges where the "Caspian monster" flew.

[Yarbay]

Quote: Sergey S.

Armenians know the price of children's and women's blood better than many, and after Sumgait, the old wounds became unhealed.

What kind of baby blood ???
Armenians shed children's blood, yes, but they don’t know the price !!
This we know the price of Armenian fascism!
and in Sumgait, the Armenians killed the Armenians!
You probably have not heard about Grigoryan?


The same thing in 1915 in Turkey, the cities slaughtered Turks !!

February 1915 Turkey. In the book of J. Malevil, “The Armenian Tragedy of 1915”, it is indicated that the number of civilian Muslim population of Eastern Anatolia, systematically destroyed by Armenian terrorist and bandit formations, barely reaches 1 people. According to the author, many Russian officers, outraged by this massacre, used force against Armenian thugs. Naturally, the atrocities and pogroms of the civilian population, coupled with the frank duplicity of Armenian propaganda, soon overflowed the patience of the Ottoman authorities, and on the order of the High Command on April 600, 000, the Ministry of Internal Affairs ordered the immediate closure of all Armenian committees - terrorist organizations in Istanbul and other major Turkish cities.

[Yarbay]

Quote: Sergey S.

Armenians know the price of children's and women's blood better than many,

Armenians know how to shed children's and women's blood !!
Rather, the Armenian fascists!

[ed65b]

Regarding the massacre of civilians by the Armenians during the conflict in Karabakh, I read the memory of the Armenian commander, he directly states that this was done consciously and specifically to undermine the morale of Azerbaijanis and as an indication that they will go to the end. So crimes are not justified by any higher considerations. Kill the warrior in battle, do not touch women, the elderly, children, especially children. And frozen lumps with dead women on the slopes of the mountains. Horror. The softest epithet.

[Yarbay]

Quote: ed65b

I read the memory of the Armenian commander, he directly states that this was done consciously and specifically to undermine the morale of Azerbaijanis and as an indicator that they will go to the end.

This is not the memory of the Armenian commander)))))) do not lie !!!!)))
This was an interview with the current President of Armenia Sargsyan, then he commanded the detachments of terrorists Tom de Val !!
Otherwise, you are right!
But I assure you, you can’t even imagine what horror is!

[ed65b]

Quote: Yarbay

This was an interview with the current President of Armenia Sargsyan, he then commanded the troops

since he commanded it means he was a commander where do you see a lie?

[Yarbay]

Quote: ed65b

since he commanded it means he was a commander where do you see a lie?

he was a financier))))
he financed these gangs and organized, an ordinary terrorist, a gangster !!
he just did not write memories !!
Now he would be glad to give up his words!

[ed65b]

If you think that I justify war crimes, then you are deeply mistaken. All those responsible for crimes must answer according to the law. it doesn’t work out according to the secular, there will be a judgment of God, and there you will not hide and you will not bother. All will receive according to their deeds.

[Yarbay]

Quote: ed65b

All those responsible for crimes must answer according to the law. it doesn’t work out in a secular way, there will be a judgment of God, and there you will not hide and you will not bomber. Anyone will receive according to his deeds.

It's right!!

[Sergey S.]

Quote: ed65b

If you think that I justify war crimes, then you are deeply mistaken. All those responsible for crimes must answer according to the law. it doesn’t work out according to the secular, there will be a judgment of God, and there you will not hide and you will not bother. All will receive according to their deeds.

I agree.
But the judgment of God is running low.
For no matter what people do, God's punishment does not come ...
For me personally, the Great Patriotic War border.
In the Leningrad blockade, only 641 people died from hunger and cold officially. I remember this figure from childhood. understand. that this is not complete data ...
And no god, nor Jesus. Allah did not intercede for them and did not punish the monsters.
the work of God was accomplished by the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army. Ready to pray on her now.

[Sergey S.]

Azerbaijanis!
War crimes are crimes.
But as the war in Chechnya has shown, the question is not simple in each particular case. It is hard to believe that a normal person will kill another person just like that.
But the fact that it was the Armenians who often had to escape from their homes was a fact.
Probably one of them took revenge, took revenge cruelly and unjustifiably.
Although the opposite side can also be understood. After all, not every nation is driven from place to place like that ...
Too many reptiles in the media that scare stories or make dishonest comments.

Solids:
It is disgusting to live with the concepts of the Middle Ages.
Especially after a period of no, but friendship of peoples. Let it be naive, but sincere for ordinary people.
To cool.

[Yarbay]

Quote: Sergey S.

But as the war in Chechnya has shown, the question is not simple in each particular case.

No, the question is simple!
There are people and there are fighters !!

[valokordin]

Aliev probably needs to build an aircraft carrier. If he wants, he will. I can imagine how on this aircraft carrier he will sail to Makakhachkala for joint exercises.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Yarbay

There are people and there are fighters !!

The Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army are fighters!

But participants in interethnic conflicts, even with the most decent behavior, should not be among the heroes.
For a war against a people (even a stranger) is a tragedy for a normal peasant.