Sevastopol authorities are offended because of the repair of ships of the Black Sea Fleet of Russia in Bulgaria

The chairman of the Sevastopol City Council, Yuri Doinikov, expressed regret over the current practice of repairing ships of the Black Sea fleet Russia in NATO countries.

“It is difficult for me to comment on the decisions of the Russian Federation, the naval leadership. The leadership of the city council and state administration has been repeated several times: historically, if there is a base, it cannot be maintained without a repair component, ”Doinikov said, reports“ New Region 2 ”.

According to Doinikov, the established practice of repairing the Black Sea Fleet ships in the NATO countries is "incomprehensible and a little offensive."

“It is possible that it plays its part that there are pricing requirements for VAT. But we are interested in our ship repair enterprises being loaded with orders, including from the Black Sea Fleet, ”Doinikov stressed.

Recall that earlier the City Council of Sevastopol called on the governments of Ukraine and Russia to agree on the resumption of repair and modernization of the Black Sea Fleet ships at the Sevmorzavod.

The last time the Black Sea Fleet ship was repaired in Sevastopol in 2003. It was the cruiser "Moscow". However, then ships of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation were sent for repairs to Bulgaria.

Strategic investor of the Sevmorzavod Petro Poroshenko recently held talks in Moscow with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and State Duma Speaker Sergei Naryshkin.

“Explain to me when we are upgrading the projects of the Russian Black Sea Fleet ships based in Sevastopol, we are not deploying at the Sevastopol factories where Russian citizens work, by the way, we are sending for modernization and repair to NATO countries - to Bulgaria, Romania. How do we explain this? Very often, decisions made in this way simply discredit the very idea of ​​our cooperation, ”he said.

“The reaction was. They wrote down, said “we will figure it out” and “we believe that this is wrong,” said Poroshenko said the outcome of the negotiations.

Poroshenko became a strategic investor at the end of the Sevmorzavod 2010 year. The shareholder fully repaid the old debts of the enterprise. Over the past four years, Sevmorzavod increased production seven times, sales volume - more than 5,5 times, from 11 to 61 million hryvnia, or 246 million rubles.

Comments

[experienced]

Bugaga, and how much can you mock Russia on the Black Sea Fleet on gas ...? Return went
Well, the "offended" we have it ...

[dustycat]

But it doesn’t come to mind that it’s a shame for people for a power?

[Misantrop]

Quote: dustycat

doesn’t come to mind that it’s a shame for people for a power?

Is this Poroshenko? For power? It was he who was offended that the Russian Federation did not want to buy shares of Sevmorzavod, as he suggested. I don’t know how and what he invested in there, but the current repair capabilities of this plant, alas, are not impressive. And before, let's say, they didn’t amaze us ... They only had a good dock, so they pushed him separately into sublease. And without a dock, why the hell? If "Zaporozhye" was not pulled out with repairs, what can we say about larger ships? And for the number of ships that the Black Sea Fleet now has, the capabilities of the 13th plant are quite enough

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: seasoned

Bugaga, and how much can you mock Russia on the Black Sea Fleet on gas ...? Return went

Lech, this government is stirring up water, but the Sevastopol residents themselves are much closer to Russia. Than anyone. It’s worthless. That there are such problems, it may affect the future.

[experienced]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Yes, this government is stirring up water, but the Sevastopol residents themselves are much closer to Russia. than anyone. Sucks. That there are such problems in the future may affect.

Yes, all this is 100% FOR YOU AND YOUR COMMENT, Sash Sevastopol was Russian and will remain RUSSIAN !!!
And WHICH CHUVYRLA BEFORE THIS WAS NOT POSSIBLE, THIS IS ITS PROBLEMS // !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do not like caps and exclamations, but used

[My doctor]

Experienced, but you yourself were in SEVASTOPOL? I bet you're not experienced at all.
In the name of this city, all letters are uppercase.

[King]

as the Russian proverb says - On offended X .. put. Nenad Russia’s brain to make a ro base in Sevastopol, etc.

[Fetel]

There is Ukraine with its cunning authorities, and there is the openly pro-Russian city of Sevastopol, which only lives from the Black Sea Fleet. Why set up against your loyal allies, residents of the Russian, hundredth, city?

[Nicholas C.]

Quote: FeteL

there is an openly pro-Russian city of Sevastopol, which only lives from the Black Sea Fleet.

Sevastopol is pro-Russian. And the owner of Poroshenko Sevmorzavod - anti-Russian - is an active supporter of Ukraine’s joining NATO, the EU, etc. He would get the lion's share. Why feed him? Moreover, he kicked the Russian co-investor from the factory. Which, however, does not prevent Poroshenko from having his car business somewhere near Nizhny Novgorod. And Sevmorzavod now lies. For whom to raise it? For the enemy of Russia?

[Very old]

But I am more concerned with the fate of the people. Well, what kind of repair will be given in Romania? What, then again look for the extreme? In the city of Russian Glory, classy specialists not in the first generation live and work. All powders come and disappear without a trace, we also have enough of them. In the words of my unloved Luzhkov, he is our Sevastopol, dare ...

[Ezhaak]

Quote: King

as the Russian proverb says

And for those Russians who work at the ship repair plant, too, one must act according to a proverb? And then we are surprised why Sevastopol residents renounce Russian citizenship? Sorry, but I also disagree with you.

[King]

And what about citizenship? this is the trouble of the Russian people that they are trying to immediately think and help everyone. and in difficult times he finds himself alone with his misfortune. they themselves destroyed the USSR and chose commodity-market relations, so we are looking for where they have fallen in price. and if the benevolent people of Sevastopol want to get contracts here, advice - choose pro-Russian power and smarter. It is possible that the contract for the repair of ships with Bulgaria is a fee for the southern stream.

[Sinbad]

Sorry, I pressed the wrong button. But in fact, I agree.

[Captain Vrungel]

SW King! Tell me the recipe, how to choose pro-Russian power and smarter?
Once, V.V. Putin three times congratulated Yanukovych ahead of time on his election as president, made a mistake, crawled Yushenko. Now Yanukovych, another mistake. We will not hide. The stake of Russia was placed on him, but, ....
And a lot depends on you with us? Never mind. The world is ruled by capital, big capital and vulgar pennies, what we call democratic principles and democratic values. What's wrong? Try to get into the deputies of the lowest level without money in a shady, democratic way and you will understand that the rich have come up with democracy for money in order to make money. Show at least one state where at least one candidate without a personal bank account is in power democratically.
Unfortunately, little depends on us. It is not us, they are the inhabitants of heaven in power, we are bred and brought down, thrown into a fight or pacified. We are for them an easily manageable biomass to achieve their interests and goals. An example is the passage of a cortege of members. All together stand in a protracted traffic jam. They and we will never be "man to man friend, comrade and brother". "To each his own" sparkles above us.

[saturn.mmm]

Probably someone has a share in Varna.

[dustycat]

Most likely, the one who pushed or appointed Serdyukov to the post.

[Very old]

It is possible, Michael. Is the quality of repair in our time in 1st place?

[Very old]

Chief Military Prosecutor: "Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu has previously admitted that the created outsourcing system did not meet expectations, primarily in terms of repair and maintenance of weapons and military equipment." the prosecutor has nothing - they stole 4,4 billion are not trifles

[ia-ai00]

“Explain to me when we do not place the projects for modernizing the ships of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, based in Sevastopol, at the Sevastopol factories where Russian citizens work, by the way, but we send them for modernization and repair to NATO countries - to Bulgaria, Romania.

And what, in Russia there are not enough people, there is no unemployment? Yes, and these NATs can stuff the Black Sea Fleet ships with anything and if necessary, use as intended ... I do not understand!

[domokl]

[quote = ia-ai00] And what, in Russia there are not enough people, there is no unemployment [/ quot
We have everything. Only factories and shipyards are loaded under the most I can’t. And there’s no reason to hire anyone. And on the matter of stuffing ... Not weapons and electronics are being repaired. Mechanics, hulls, etc. are being repaired.

[ia-ai00]

And nothing can be "sewn up" into the hull of a ship, and "put" into the mechanics of some defective or wrong metal part. also can’t? After all, these are military vessels, and cheap is hardly always justified.

[Very old]

Alexander, remember the "kingston" story - after renovation

[domokl]

Nothing personal. We can be repaired where it is cheaper. And if Sevastopol repair plants need orders from Russia, then the price should be appropriate with the same quality of order fulfillment. Translating purely economic issues into the political plane is not grateful. Ukraine has already tried to put such pressure on Russia.

[Very old]

Alexander, in this I cannot agree with you, "after all, these are our people, they will help us" Personally, I do not give a damn about the powder, but not the quality of the repair. Well, what are the Romanians, Bulgarians

[Misantrop]

Quote: Very old

Personally, I spit on the powder, but not on the quality of the repair.

What is the point, in the current state, and even without a dock, to ensure QUALITY is unlikely to succeed, alas And to plant money, and then remodel there in Sevastopol at the 13th plant? Labor must be paid, but labor must be. And the result of labor is non-zero

[Thunderbolt]

So there was infa that the Bulgarians repair for debts, tobish for almost free. And if so, then it is more profitable for Russia. And Romanians also have to ..?

[skrgar]

Quote: Thunderbolt

So there was infa that the Bulgarians repair for debts, tobish for almost free. And if so, then it is more profitable for Russia. And Romanians also have to ..?

So it may be so ... and it may be so right. But it’s not right, they definitely need to be repaired in Sevastopol, and even if few Russian citizens work there ... and even if the Ukrainian "oligarch" rules (he will have an interest in cooperation with RF). In general, here is our "jamb", Russia, not Ukraine .. Enough already "butting" .. The money should remain in Sevastopol, and the employment of people .. And Bulgarians .. yes they went traitors !!

[Garrin]

Quote: skrgar

.In general, here is our "joint", Russia, not Ukraine .. Enough already "butting" ..

I think this is not about "butting" the point.
- Firstly. Agree with Thunderbolt. If there are dog workers, then you need to recover debts by any means.
- Secondly. Could they make quality repairs? I mentioned it for a reason, just below, I mentioned Zaporizhzhya.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: skrgar

.A Bulgarians .. yes they went traitors !!

No, let them work out And so, sailors or the Sevastopol residents themselves must answer: is it good or bad.

[escobar]

Quote: skrgar

So it may be so ... and it may be so right. But it’s not right, they definitely need to be repaired in Sevastopol, and even if few Russian citizens work there ... and even if the Ukrainian "oligarch" rules (he will have an interest in cooperation with RF). In general, here is our "jamb", Russia, not Ukraine .. Enough already "butting" .. The money should remain in Sevastopol, and the employment of people .. And Bulgarians .. yes they went traitors !!

I completely agree with such a balanced opinion. In my opinion, this is the best vision of the situation for our countries and the specific situation. And those here are trying to impose hu @ mi on us-flawed people.

[MG42]

Quote: Thunderbolt

So there was infa that the Bulgarians repair for debts, tobish for almost free. And if so, then it is more profitable for Russia

Well, even if this is so .. only this is a momentary benefit, and the rulers do not see beyond their noses, since Bulgaria = this is only a business <partner> Bulgaria joined NATO on March 29, 2004, and now it is not a comrade for the Russian Federation. Missile defense and NATO are getting closer to the Russian Federation..Punishing Ukrainian Svidomo for stubbornness, pro-Russian citizens also fall under the whip..the owner is a master ..

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: MG42

.only this is a momentary gain

Who argues, everything should be at home But, as the distinguished Misanthrope has already explained, in order to repair warships at home factories in a high-quality manner, you need to invest, create conditions (no dock). This gives you the opportunity to repair cheaper in a NATO country due to paying off debts. momentary gain and the whole business works this way, if it is of course pure business and state interests are not taken into account much.

[MG42]

Quote: Thunderbolt

So it turns out to be a momentary benefit and the whole business works like that, if it is of course pure business and government interests are not taken into account.

That’s the problem that drives in Ukraine and now I’m convinced that pure business in Russia is also ..

[skrgar]

Quote: MG42

Quote: Thunderbolt

So it turns out to be a momentary benefit and the whole business works like that, if it is of course pure business and government interests are not taken into account.

That’s the problem that drives in Ukraine and now I’m convinced that pure business in Russia is also ..

Yes, wait a minute so to judge, it is quite possible that Serdyuk and Vasilisa signed an agreement with the Bulgarians .. (I have to do it) .. Let's wait, maybe Rogozin will voice this "jamb"

[MG42]

Quote: skrgar

Yes, wait a second, it’s quite possible that Serdyuk and Vasilisa signed an agreement with the Bulgarians ..

No offense. It reminded me of our Prime Minister Azarov <the papists are to blame for everything!> = previous authorities ..

[mmmakm]

I was always amazed at puffiness, pathological envy and idiocy ov. There will be soon Sevastopol. What is the pace of building a base in Novorossiysk.

[domokl]

Construction is construction, but Sevastopol is an ideal bay. We will leave, they will come

[Simon]

The bay will not help them, when ours will be nearby in Novorossiysk.

[MG42]

Quote: Simon

The bay will not help them, when ours will be nearby in Novorossiysk.

Come on, compared, in Sevastopol, the geography for the fleet is much more profitable and the terrain for the base, in Novorossiysk can the cruiser "Moscow" be based?

[itkul]

Quote: mmmakm

I was always amazed at puffiness, pathological envy

That's right, I immediately remembered the phrase from the cartoon about Prostokvashino, “How greedy people are to someone else’s good”

[Very old]

Sevastopol is OUR, and always will be. Whatever happened in the future (soon or distant), Sevastopol is not only history, memory, but much more

[King]

Oh, in vain Crimea was given, it is necessary to buy it back.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: domokl

Sevastopol is the perfect bay

The very location of Crimea and Sevastopol in the Black Sea is unique and offers many advantages. I was there , maybe those who live there and do not feel it keenly (their city, affairs, concerns), but I immediately felt a special energy. The sieges did not pass without a trace, traces remained.

[23424636]

a simple solution - sell the plant ock or the like - do not stint.

[Garrin]

According to Doinikov, the established practice of repairing the Black Sea Fleet ships in the NATO countries is "incomprehensible and a little offensive."

And they are not offended that the only submarine in Ukraine was repaired at the Russian plant, and it would have crumbled like that.

[Russ69]

Given the state of our fleet, it is possible to toss an order to Sevastopol. But everything rests on the money of the customer and the price of the contractor. With regards to Bulgaria, this is probably the only way to repay the loan.
But in general, especially offending Sevastopol where enough pro-Russian sentiments should not be, purely from a political point of view.

[Very old]

"From a purely political point of view" - but why is it needed - the main thing is the quality of work. Since when for debts they work diligently and conscientiously. And in Sevastopol they have not forgotten who they are and for whom they work.

[dustycat]

In the course of the story with "Empress Maria" someone did not teach anything.
I wonder how many "bookmarks" are on those "refurbished" ships now?
The story with "micro-concrete" at the US Embassy in Moscow may be replaced by the story with "peace technologies" used in the repair of Russian ships. "Micro" from the word microphone.

And will it not work out so that when the motherland orders the armament refuses to fulfill the fire command despite all the efforts of the crew?

[1c-inform-city]

And why did everyone get alarmed? In Bulgaria, only BDK and auxiliary units of the fleet are being repaired. Nobody will send Moscow there, it will go to Sevmash. Bulgars are repairing for debts and at reasonable prices. And as for the Sevastopol plant, I can tell you how it was torn up in the nineties. that they can patch up the hulls. The plant does not belong to Russia and I think that armed ships will not be put there for repair. Moreover, Ukraine requires customs duties on supplied parts and this is the main reason why Mr. Poroshenko will not receive orders! I myself have to do with Sevastopol and I see, while Ukraine rules there will be nothing worthwhile.

[Simon]

So Ukraine itself is to blame. It is necessary to join the customs union. Large customs privileges will immediately appear.

[MG42]

So far, only the observer status of Ukraine in the CU is actively preparing an association agreement with the EU in the fall. In general, the vehicle will be replaced by EAC = Eurasian Union ..

[dimon-media]

How much can you do ananism? few of their seaports on the Black Sea? In order for there to be no dictate for leasing, the number of combat units of the fleet and blackmail for basing and repairing the Black Sea fleet in Sevastopol, Russia needs to take a principled position on this issue. That is, build a new naval base. For example: Novorossiysk (although there already is, if only expanded), Gelendzhik, Anapa. I understand that building a base and infrastructure for it is expensive. But it's worth it! It will be unnecessary to report to anyone for the commissioning of new ships in the Black Sea Fleet and no lease and pressure from the Ukrainian government. There are many precedents of blackmail and pressure on their part !!!
PS sorry to leave Sevastopol. So much Russian blood was spilled for him. If they can, let them return Crimea with him. If they can’t return, then let them build a new base! There is no third. The Russian fleet should be based on Russian territory.

[King]

It is possible now in Abkhazia to base the base.

[Stamp]

Because of this policy, the number of pro-Russian citizens in Sevastopol will decrease both in general and in Crimea, for nationalists this is the other way around, the more such news the better.
Although the strategic investor Poroshenko, nicknamed the "chocolate hare", is a rather murky type, one of the main sponsors of the Orange Revolution, he is definitely not for the TS.

[AlexxNik]

We often repair ships in South Korea, where all the floating docks are used for repairs, judging by the shaded inscriptions, originally from the Crimea. it’s unlikely that they have acquired new ones, and the question arises: how are they going to serve the fleet, if, of course, the question of developing funds is generally raised, and not just pocket

[individual]

In general, all this is not clear.
In Bulgaria, the situation around the monument resumed again Soviet army in the center of Sofia.Nationalists favor its demolition.
The same requirements are put forward by the demolition of the "Alyosha" monument in Plovdiv.
The authorities deliberately covered the inscription "The Soviet army liberated from the grateful Bulgarian people" with the flags of the European Union ...
The Russian Embassy is silent, and business dealers are loading the potential enemy from the NATO camp by repairing the ships of the Black Sea Fleet!
This makes the government a national betrayal of Russia.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: individ

The authorities deliberately covered the inscription "The Soviet army liberated from the grateful Bulgarian people" with the flags of the European Union ...

And here they are s and ya. My grandfather named him in honor of him, so my opinion is here uniquely

[common man]

1. I myself do not know, so please enlighten. Do we have that the entire industry of Sevastopol consists of the Sevmorzavod? Write how many people work on it, including Russian citizens.
2. If Poroshenko is so against Russia, then there can be more bookmarks at his plant than in Bulgaria. (Although the question is, what are the Bulgarians so eager to put enemy electronics in our ships?)
3. If the plant is half-dead, then a bunch of attendants should be put into it. Russia will upgrade the plant at its own expense, and then Poroshenko will repair Turkish frigates there. (Just an example, but who will forbid him?)
4. Are there any complaints about the work of the Bulgarians.

[Captain Vrungel]

As for the repair of Turkish frigates in Sevastopol. Late. Turkey has enough shipbuilding, shipbuilding, ship repair plants and shipyards. They do it quickly and efficiently. A large number of Bulgarian specialists work in Turkey. And ships from the used USSR (Ukraine, Russia, Moldova, Azerbaijan) are successfully and relatively inexpensively repaired there. While we were breaking up shipbuilding and ship repair enterprises, Turkey created.

[And raid]

There are more Russians in Sevastopol than in Russia and they need to be supported in every possible way, and not "drowned". Although Russia has always thrown its heroes!