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There are no analogues to Ukrainian aviation enterprises in the world - M. Lutsky

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There are no analogues to Ukrainian aviation enterprises in the world - M. LutskyUkraine has powerful manufacturing capabilities in the field of aviation, which have no analogues in the world. About this in the comments UNN said Chairman of the Supervisory Board of the National Aviation University Maxim Lutsky.


"Ukraine is one of six countries in the world with full aviation the cycle is the training of specialists, and production, and design bureaus, and operation, etc. In terms of operation, Ukraine has always occupied leading places. Today we have powerful production facilities - these are Odessa, Kiev, Zaporizhzhya, Kharkov plants. There are no analogues in principle in the world today. We have service aircraft from Russia, Kazakhstan and from all the neighboring countries, "said M. Lutsky.

Recall, the State company Ukrspetsexport won a tender for the provision of services for the repair and modernization of MiG-21 aircraft for the Air Force and Air Defense of the Republic of Croatia.

The tender also involved the company "Aerostar" (Romania).

Ukrspetsexport will provide Croatia with repair services for 7 MiG-21 aircraft. Repairs will be carried out at the facilities of the state enterprise Odesaviaremservice, which is part of the State Concern Ukrobronprom. In addition, the Croatian Ministry of Defense will purchase in the Ukrspetsexport Group another 5 repaired MiG-21, which are the property of Odesaviaremservice LLC.
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  1. dominion
    dominion 9 July 2013 14: 08 New
    43
    Ukrainian gorilka has no analogues in the world.
    1. afire
      afire 9 July 2013 14: 19 New
      +4
      We all, both Ukraine and Russia, will soon need this potential, but I don’t understand the essence of praise, it’s good.
      ps bold - not used.
      1. strange and pretty meaningless
        strange and pretty meaningless 9 July 2013 15: 11 New
        15
        "There are no analogues to Ukrainian aviation enterprises in the world" and so... "State company" Ukrspetsexport "won a tender for the provision of services for the repair and modernization of MiG-21 aircraft for the Air Force and Air Defense of the Republic of Croatia." request Unprecedented deal ...
        But in Ukraine there are such shipyards in Nikolaev. There were ... Polygon "Thread" - for the products of these shipyards. If not for ebn ... SOVIET nuclear trio "Anchar" - "Orlan" - "Ulyanovsk" would have plowed the seas. This is where we need to go - and not with an "independent" broom of revenge about "proto-ukrov".
        1. domokl
          domokl 9 July 2013 15: 41 New
          +7
          Quote: abyrvalg
          But in Ukraine such shipyards in Nikolaev. There were ..

          I read it and was surprised ... Ukeraina really still has a good base in the field of aircraft manufacturing, especially transport, only, alas, the author breezes, she doesn’t enter anywhere.
          That's why they are engaged in nonsense. Modernization of the junk of the military. The scientific and technical potential is destroyed little by little.
          In general, I have the opinion that Ukraine is Russia, only 15-20 years ago. lol and in her movement she doesn’t want to miss the rake that we at that time ... laughing
          1. cdrt
            cdrt 9 July 2013 19: 04 New
            +5
            100500
            I am often in Ukraine. Sensation - RF years 93-94.
            It seems that both countries then fell into timelessness, only the Russian Federation got out of there, and Ukraine cannot
            1. Imigrantt
              Imigrantt 9 July 2013 19: 31 New
              +7
              I completely agree, I myself have been living in Kerch for twenty years! Citizenship really did not change because he foresaw an awful situation! All enterprises were not only plundered, but they did not leave a stone unturned !!! Two factories are still working on small capacities! "Zaliv" shipbuilding once made the world's largest tankers, now the tulkin fleet repairs it from time to time! Yes, the Voykov Metallurgical Plant, the Italians are pouring lampposts !!! But Kerch was an industrial city! And now it is not an industrial and not a resort - just the edge of geography, and so the whole of Ukraine will not climb out of the scoop! Only with a scoop did the money regularly pay, but on SELF and NOT COVERED, everyone chews as much as he can, and in this situation, you should not indulge in bragging, and wishful thinking! And people are leaving - it can be seen from the good life! When a five-year-old child fantasizes, this is understandable, but when a government official, to put it mildly, pi..it is simply displaced !!! lol
              1. alexdol
                alexdol 9 July 2013 20: 39 New
                +3
                Imigrantt SU "When a five-year-old child fantasizes it is understandable, but when a government official, to put it mildly, pi..it is just displaced !!!"
                -------------------------------------------------- -----
                Quite right, I am very FUNNY too! I will not speak for everyone, but I can say for the Kharkov Aviation Plant - it is almost destroyed! Although the equipment was still old, the staff ran away! Salaries are not paid on time, constant delays. And how it works can be judged by ONE plane per YEAR barely handed over. Those who worked there during the Soviet era say that six TU-134s were produced steadily in a MONTH, and in emergency mode - up to TEN! In Kharkiv today, only BAZARS and all sorts of markets are flourishing ... So there is nothing for people to hang on their ears ... And in addition, I give a link to my verse about the "Khaz dispensary"
                http://stihi.ru/2009/08/13/6620
                1. allosaurus
                  allosaurus 11 July 2013 11: 02 New
                  0
                  I agree with you, but Maxim Georgievich Lutsky said how he farted in a barrel.
            2. dominatus
              dominatus 10 July 2013 02: 46 New
              -2
              Quote: cdrt
              only the Russian Federation got out of there, but Ukraine cannot


              It got out thanks to the fact that oil prices rose from $ 16 to a hundred-plus.
              But Russia still has everything ahead: oil prices are falling, liquefied gas is beginning to flow to Europe from the Middle East, the cost of gas has dropped from 370 billion to 78, the stabilization fund formed in excess of profits from the sale of oil and gas is already empty, production growth has practically stopped and. etc
              1. afire
                afire 10 July 2013 10: 29 New
                0
                Quote: dominatus

                It got out thanks to the fact that oil prices rose from $ 16 to a hundred-plus.
                But Russia still has everything ahead: oil prices are falling, liquefied gas is beginning to flow to Europe from the Middle East, the cost of gas has dropped from 370 billion to 78, the stabilization fund formed in excess of profits from the sale of oil and gas is already empty, production growth has practically stopped and. etc

                I heard it somewhere laughing winked
        2. ziqzaq
          ziqzaq 9 July 2013 16: 00 New
          +3
          Quote: abyrvalg
          Ukrspetsexport "won a tender for the provision of services for the repair and modernization of MiG-21 aircraft for the Air Force and Air Defense of the Republic of Croatia." An unprecedented deal ...

          Haha, there really are no analogues ....
        3. Constantine
          Constantine 9 July 2013 18: 06 New
          +5
          "independent" pomelo of revenge about "proto-ukrov".


          This is what. The other day, in a VK group dedicated to science, I met in the comments a man from Zaporozhye who sincerely did not understand why Russia was the legal successor of the USSR, and not all the republics that demanded independence. In addition, he sincerely believes that the Russian Empire was destroyed by Nikolai, and indeed RI has always been backward. I tried to explain to him, but the person was so deep in the brain that he even refused to listen. 89 year of birth, seemingly an adult, he must understand. It's a shame for the brothers recourse
          1. buywol
            buywol 9 July 2013 19: 42 New
            +2
            And with what fright are all republics of the legal successor of the USSR? Russia gave a wabble to these legal successors. What contribution did the Baltic states make, they only had grandmothers more than any republic of the USSR. The Caucasian republics are all subsidized. Asians other than Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan on subsidies. So which brothers? If everyone lived at the expense of MATUSHA RUSSIA. And now they fill their pockets, at the expense of RUSSIA. There is no IV Stalin on you. Put you all against the wall or raise all of SIBERIA. It would be more useful.
          2. Bear52
            Bear52 10 July 2013 01: 35 New
            +1
            Constantine
            89 years of birth, seemingly an adult,
            Smiled! drinks fellow
        4. andygra1967
          andygra1967 9 July 2013 21: 54 New
          +1
          Dear abyrvalg, not with ebn it all started :(, earlier much earlier. For me, both of them with the labeled hellish cauldrons to lower (I hope that just ebn is splashing there now), I'm sorry for the anxiety, it all touches the soul
      2. Kolya
        Kolya 10 July 2013 04: 44 New
        0
        Another 5 years of independence and nothing will remain of all this.
    2. bodriy
      bodriy 9 July 2013 14: 25 New
      -4
      On the way Rogozin went ... did not become wise!
    3. buzuke
      buzuke 9 July 2013 14: 33 New
      +4
      so you won’t praise yourself ...
      1. Denis
        Denis 9 July 2013 14: 37 New
        +3
        Quote: buzuke
        so you won’t praise yourself ...

        There is a lot of hunting in the European Union.
        1. slavik_gross
          slavik_gross 9 July 2013 15: 07 New
          +9
          and there they will quickly lower their factory ... it is not profitable for the European Union ...
          1. Constantine
            Constantine 9 July 2013 18: 07 New
            +1
            Or they will buy and make rem. some sort of airbase base.
        2. Simon
          Simon 9 July 2013 16: 48 New
          +6
          That's just the European Union does not need Ukrainian air power. For they’re getting worse quickly under such a government.
    4. Siberian German
      Siberian German 9 July 2013 14: 53 New
      +9
      and they have beer-obolon-tasty and girls uhhhhh why should be measured it is necessary to cooperate and put the rest 5 \ 6 with cancer (without pederastic desire)
    5. krasin
      krasin 9 July 2013 16: 28 New
      +5
      Ukraine has powerful manufacturing capabilities in the aircraft industry, which have no analogues in the world.

      What is the use if ours refused to jointly make the T-50 (or F-50, I already forgot) because sell everything
      and all secret technologies. With them while Nezya do nothing together, if only to eat fat!
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 9 July 2013 17: 20 New
        +6
        Was in Ukraine, Ordzhonikidze. Observed the ruins of the Soviet factories Gidropribor (periscopes) and Gidroapparat (torpedoes). The situation, like in Russia, is devastation. Ours is certainly better, you can live off the trade in minerals.
        "There is nothing to do with them yet" - the Russians and Ukrainians will have to do a lot of things together, but the governments of the Russian Federation and Ukraine really have nothing to do together. Some rob their own people, others their own. Why should they unite then?
    6. Nevsky
      Nevsky 9 July 2013 17: 21 New
      +5
      It would be more correct: "Ukraine has no analogues in the world!" laughing
      1. krasin
        krasin 9 July 2013 21: 58 New
        -1
        Quote: Nevsky
        It would be more correct: "Ukraine has no analogues in the world!" laughing

        Because in the ass!
    7. pensioner
      pensioner 9 July 2013 17: 46 New
      +5
      Quote: dominion
      Ukrainian gorilka has no analogues in the world.

      In vain you are so in vain ... Khanty and Mansi will argue with you! Cloudberry - how beautiful it is! Civilization has reached them ...
    8. Quiet
      Quiet 9 July 2013 20: 37 New
      0
      There are no analogues to Ukrainian aviation enterprises in the world

      This refers to the remnants of the aviation enterprises of the USSR on Ukrainian soil ???

      Trying to upgrade and improve the junk stuff the price ..... !!!! fool
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 9 July 2013 21: 49 New
        0
        Alone snot!
        There was an aircraft repair plant in Vinnitsa. Now, for two years now, its remains cannot be divided.
        All sawing and sawing, when finally they begin to invest in the manufacturer ???
        1. Quiet
          Quiet 9 July 2013 22: 03 New
          0
          Alone snot!

          And they minus me for the truth ... probably Bendera revenge ... am
    9. Su24
      Su24 10 July 2013 04: 00 New
      +1
      In terms of operation, Ukraine has always occupied leading places.


      They forget a little that it was the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, and not "independent".
  2. orff
    orff 9 July 2013 14: 09 New
    +5
    oh right now, tearing will begin! such articles are best avoided here. the results are clear. more than 200 comments are waiting
  3. Interface
    Interface 9 July 2013 14: 10 New
    +5
    [There are no analogues to Ukrainian aviation enterprises in the world - M. Lutsky

    And I can cross stitch, like that!
  4. sapsan14
    sapsan14 9 July 2013 14: 11 New
    31
    There are no analogues of Ukraine in the world laughing
  5. Dub4ik
    Dub4ik 9 July 2013 14: 13 New
    10
    Some kind of too loud statement what I do not know what to say request
  6. vano1305
    vano1305 9 July 2013 14: 16 New
    20
    Well, yes, where are the Ukrainian capacities for Boeing and Airbus, with about five hundred issued planes per year for each ...
  7. artist-mamluk
    artist-mamluk 9 July 2013 14: 18 New
    11
    Thank you all the same, the USSR, they built a lot in the fraternal republics.
    1. Kail_seven
      Kail_seven 9 July 2013 14: 51 New
      +9
      Quote: artist-mamluk
      Thank you all the same, the USSR, they built a lot in the fraternal republics.


      Probably you meant the RSFSR, since the USSR is a collection of these very "fraternal republics" who, nevertheless, created industry on their COMMON territory, together.
      1. Kail_seven
        Kail_seven 9 July 2013 15: 03 New
        0
        What do you disagree with? Justify.
    2. Simon
      Simon 9 July 2013 16: 52 New
      +3
      Only these fraternal republics did not value anything and managed to ruin everything.
      1. Kail_seven
        Kail_seven 9 July 2013 18: 03 New
        +4
        Only these fraternal republics did not value anything and managed to ruin everything.


        Some of which have saved more than ours, for example, Belarus.
  8. pensioner
    pensioner 9 July 2013 14: 23 New
    +9
    There are no analogues to Ukrainian aviation enterprises in the world - M. Lutsky
    Boeing, Airbus and Sukhoi nervously smoke on the sidelines ...
  9. igor67
    igor67 9 July 2013 14: 24 New
    17
    He worked at the airline for 15 years, in Ukraine, maybe the cycle is closed in the sense of production, but at the expense of analogues in the world - bullshit! And what does the MiG21 contract have to do with this? In the Soviet Union in Ukraine, aircraft repair plants or, rather, repair plants, were concentrated, all of them were military units, our factory of the 17th Air Army was subordinate. What there are no analogues in the world, that is, the enterprise may have rails of the 37th year of manufacture, on which the hoist rides,
    1. Corneli
      Corneli 9 July 2013 15: 16 New
      17
      Quote: igor67
      He worked at the airline for 15 years, in Ukraine, maybe the cycle is closed in the sense of production, but at the expense of analogues in the world - bullshit! And what does the MiG21 contract have to do with this?

      But no ... The whole point of the article is to stir up passions between Ukrainians and Russians. One name already provokes. The article itself is stupid about nothing! The electoral delirium of the deputy, even without special, clever interesting details. Well, an extra little thing about repairing as many as 7 MiG-21s (the latest EPT aircraft) is just a bomb!
      P.S. In short, the author is a dull provocateur and a troll! negative
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 9 July 2013 16: 07 New
        +7
        Quote: Corneli
        Well, as for the repair as much as 7 whole MiG-21s

        Well, Cho, MiG-21 already, indeed, few people are repairing, just as few are repairing Il-2, TB-3 and Sopvich triplanes.
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 9 July 2013 18: 20 New
          +3
          Quote: Vladimirets
          and triplanes "Sopwith".

          Fokker d1 was offended and cried ...
        2. Simon
          Simon 9 July 2013 18: 46 New
          +2
          ABOUT! I propose to establish there the production of biplanes "Ilya Muromets" Sikorsky, 1914 model. A good car, it can be put into series production at Ukrainian "powerful" factories, since they are repairing antediluvian equipment. laughing
    2. My doctor
      My doctor 9 July 2013 20: 55 New
      0
      rails so what? in the Republic of Bashkortostan, at one enterprise, an overhead crane is being changed for a crane girder with a span of 24 m.
  10. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 9 July 2013 14: 24 New
    +3
    Have one thing. But using it at full power is more difficult here alas.
  11. sashka
    sashka 9 July 2013 14: 31 New
    +4
    There are no analogues to Ukraine .. Selling and omnipresent .. However, this applies to Russia as well. Heavenly manna has fallen on my head, but what to do is not clear. On which side are they eating? we weren’t taught this ...
  12. shark
    shark 9 July 2013 14: 40 New
    +3
    The guy said everything on the case! It just so happened that Ukraine now has nothing special to be proud of. And he says, look, you have such treasures under your feet. You just have to bend down and take ... There is a basis for growth in Ukraine. There is no will to grow.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 9 July 2013 14: 44 New
      +5
      Quote: shark
      Just bend down and

      In-in ...
    2. sashka
      sashka 9 July 2013 15: 28 New
      +4
      And we are too lazy .. Ilya Muromets spent more than four terms on the stove. Well, now Vladimir is swinging .. Russia is endless .. But someday patience ends .. We are not gay Europeans .. Everything is real and serious .. Zadolbalo or zadolbali , "smart" faces of "presidents" .. Maybe we will start to move .. Or we will march on the spot .. Zadolbalo ...
      1. Tatanka Yotanka
        Tatanka Yotanka 9 July 2013 20: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: Sasha
        . Ilya Muromets spent over four years on the stove.

        so he’s 30 years old
        and this one, alas 13
        there are 17 more in stock
        should we endure or not?
    3. IRBIS
      IRBIS 9 July 2013 16: 38 New
      +5
      Quote: shark
      One has only to bend down and take it.

      Just do not bend over - the situation in the world is not the same now! You never know who can be behind. One of them bent down in a bathhouse ... And now all of Europe is a continuous bathhouse ...
  13. virm
    virm 9 July 2013 14: 45 New
    +3
    Why is it in the form of Soviet Aeroflot?
    1. MG42
      MG42 9 July 2013 14: 52 New
      +6
      Quote: virm
      Why is it in the form of Soviet Aeroflot?


      Why is he in uniform at all? wassat
      Biography M. Lutsky.
      Born June 04, 1976 in Kiev. Graduated from Kiev Polytechnic Institute, Faculty of Informatics and Computer Engineering, “Computer and Intelligent Systems and Networks” (1998); Graduate School of the Kiev Polytechnic Institute (2001). In 2001-2022 he worked as the first deputy chairman of the board of CJSC IC Ukrainian Reserves. In 2006, he passed to the Verkhovna Rada No. 48 on the list on the BYuT list. After the dissolution of the parliament, the deputy minister of science and education worked for two months. In the early parliamentary elections in 2007, he was already on the list of the Party of Regions.

      Now he is a People’s Deputy, First Deputy Chairman of the Parliamentary Committee on Education and the First Vice-Rector of the National Aviation University. Candidate of Technical Sciences (2004).

      MP from the Party of Regions Maxim Lutsky assures that he will not distribute products with his photo to voters.
    2. MG42
      MG42 9 July 2013 14: 57 New
      +3
      Lutsky himself said that he earned his first money in 1992 by selling sausages and bread bought in a store to foreigners in a cafe. Naturally, at an inflated price. Such a business made it possible to earn up to $ 30 a day - crazy money for that time. The first earnings allowed Maxim Lutsky in 1995 to open his first Lenox enterprise, which was engaged in the supply of computers. Wife of Lutsky, Elena was engaged in a network of Internet cafes in universities, including - in the National Aviation University of Kiev. His wife's connections and his own business helped him become the first vice-rector for corporate governance, and then quickly grow to the first vice-rector.

      In parallel, Maxim Lutsky was engaged in the insurance business. In particular, in 2001-2012 he worked as the first deputy chairman of the board of CJSC IC Ukrainian Reserves. Today, according to media reports, Maxim Lutsky is related to the following companies: LLC Lenoks. Computer software of LLC Maximal. Computer software, furniture production of Unity LLC. Insurance.

      Lutsky posted his photo on packages of drugs intended for the treatment of vascular diseases of the brain and are given out to patients free of charge with the obligatory permission of a doctor. Subsequently, Lutsky indignantly declared that “the information that the drugs were distributed free of charge” was published on the drugs by activists of the social initiative “Solomenka - Effective Power” together with the Red Cross. Later, information appeared that Lutsky continues to agitate the people of Kiev, giving them champagne with his portrait. Earlier it was reported that Lutsky, who is the godfather of the Minister of Education Dmitry Tabachnik, will run for the district on Solomenka in Kiev.
      1. MG42
        MG42 9 July 2013 16: 56 New
        +5
        It would be better if someone today congratulated our free president Viktor Fedorovich Yanukovych on his birthday! am
        After all, exactly July 9 1950, a great leader was born in the working village of Zhukovka near Enakievo!
        1. MG42
          MG42 9 July 2013 17: 08 New
          +2
          UA - Viktor Yanukovych Christmas Day Presidents - 63. The reception for the support of Foros is the governor, the deputy and the government. Vipusk TSN. Rank 9 stick for 2013 rock

          RU - Viktor Yanukovych celebrates his birthday today. To the President - 63. Congratulations at the State House in Foros from the governors, deputies and officials. Release TSN. Morning July 9, 2013
        2. Snow
          Snow 9 July 2013 21: 46 New
          0
          and what kind of pisdul is that in his hand?))
          1. MG42
            MG42 9 July 2013 22: 12 New
            +2
            This is the mace of the President of Ukraine >>> made of gilded silver = one of the state. symbols of the president.
            On his neck he is wearing the sign of the President of Ukraine in white and yellow gold.
            This is from the inauguration of the president photo ..
            1. IRBIS
              IRBIS 10 July 2013 17: 07 New
              +2
              Quote: MG42
              This is the mace of the President of Ukraine >>> made of gilded silver = one of the state. symbols of the president.
              On his neck he is wearing the sign of the President of Ukraine in white and yellow gold.

              Now I understand what all the presidents are doing there. This is how much all such brilliant give !!! Stunned ...
  14. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 9 July 2013 14: 49 New
    +2

    Quote: igor67
    What there are no analogues in the world, that is, the enterprise may have rails of the 37th year of manufacture, on which the hoist rides,

    Cursed by golly laughing . Most likely a dream.
  15. silver_roman
    silver_roman 9 July 2013 14: 52 New
    13
    I agree with him. the situation is unique, unparalleled: the country has everything to develop, and it rolls downhill. Some managers, lawyers and hucksters around. I say, because himself from Kiev. and not many who remain in the factories receive pennies ...
    sadly, comrades!
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 9 July 2013 15: 30 New
      +3
      I agree with you. If there was a desire, in five years everything would have worked at full capacity, and then ... then yes - there were no analogues of manufactured transporters in the world.
      I really wish you to hold on and not lose what is left.
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman 9 July 2013 15: 39 New
        +3
        Thank you, Denis. Give Putin a lease for a couple of years, maybe it will be good. Let’s put our yanyka into the scam ... lol
        1. valokordin
          valokordin 9 July 2013 16: 26 New
          -1
          Quote: silver_roman
          Thank you, Denis. Give Putin a lease for a couple of years, maybe it will be good. Let’s put our yanyka into the spill ... lol

          Yes, take it for God's sake, but you won’t succeed, since you have neither gas nor oil, although you can master the production of asphalt shale gas with Germany.
          1. silver_roman
            silver_roman 9 July 2013 18: 02 New
            +1
            to Ukraine, an intelligent ruler and she would be able to sooo much. beautiful reserve, resources would be enough. Would 10-20 years and would not know her ...
        2. strange and pretty meaningless
          strange and pretty meaningless 9 July 2013 16: 26 New
          +4
          Leasing a puting is "counterproductive." He here would not start up everything with "grabbing". Better invite Father. Then, you look and "Mriya" will come true ...
        3. phantom359
          phantom359 9 July 2013 22: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: silver_roman
          Thank you, Denis. Give Putin a lease for a couple of years, maybe it will be good. Let’s put our yanyka into the scam ... lol

          This is not enough. It is also necessary to send the opposition to the archives, if we have "eaten" it. These clowns won't let you put things in order.
          1. silver_roman
            silver_roman 11 July 2013 10: 09 New
            +1
            I agree, but then in the sky over Ukraine they will declare a no-fly zone and begin to saw democracy.
            The Amers have done extremely well: if you have no opposition, then you are a tyrant, monarch and despot, then you belittle your people and do not take into account their opinions, then the "brave guys" will come and kick your ass, which no one will ever take anywhere.
            And if there is an opposition and you give it a descent, then the "gallant guys" take advantage of this and through it they arrange coups, both military and political, orange, gray-brown-crimson, etc. funding these jackals very generously!
  16. Muxauk
    Muxauk 9 July 2013 15: 05 New
    +5
    it was unique in the USSR, and now it is a bit older than the hangar. At such a pace, it will be so unique that it will repair the pre-revolutionary carts)))
    Although the fact that the order is already pleasing, even though the money will come, is it true that they will come to the state treasury, this is a question
    1. silver_roman
      silver_roman 9 July 2013 15: 43 New
      0
      I say, Yanyk makes an extension to his "b * rdel" ...
  17. fzr1000
    fzr1000 9 July 2013 15: 08 New
    +3
    There are no analogues to Ukrainian aviation enterprises in the world.


    I agree. Ukraine today is ... hoo .... ehe-ge .... well, you know. Sad
  18. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 9 July 2013 15: 15 New
    +1
    Well, it's just not adult to make such statements ... ill or something ...
  19. Old Cynic
    Old Cynic 9 July 2013 15: 21 New
    +3
    MIG-21 ???
    And "Ilya Muromets" they do not want to restore and sell, say, to Ethiopia?
    And there will be enough capacity, and the customer is not spoiled, and the money will flow ...
    By the way, this ... the author of the article, by any chance not from "Svidomo"?
    1. silver_roman
      silver_roman 9 July 2013 15: 40 New
      +2
      money ??? bananas and coconuts at best ... although it's better than nothing!
  20. Lukich
    Lukich 9 July 2013 15: 34 New
    +6
    ... and we have SALO the best in the world ... and Vinnitsa moonshine abruptly more than any viskar !!! ...
    1. silver_roman
      silver_roman 9 July 2013 15: 41 New
      +1
      The main optimism drinks
      but seriously, this is exactly what I was talking about. Baryzhim and we are selling everything that’s the only thing that you should cling to like never before !!!!
    2. itkul
      itkul 9 July 2013 15: 44 New
      +3
      Quote: Lukich
      and we have SALO the best in the world.


      And why, then bring our fat, that's how Ukrainians eat mother Russia

      http://vz.ru/news/2013/4/9/627988.html

      “In the Donetsk region a few meters from the border, employees of the Amvrosiyivka department detained a citizen of Ukraine - a resident of the city of Makeyevka. The man secretly tried to pass through the border post at night, ”the website of the Ukrainian department reports.
      The report notes that the offender was detained in the territory between the Russian village of Shramko and the Ukrainian Ulyanovsk.
      A man had four bags with him, according to which 130 kg of freshly frozen fat were packaged.
      “This incident was reported to the Russian border service. Soon they detained a citizen of the Russian Federation, who brought the offender by car to the border, ”the Ukrainian border service said.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 9 July 2013 15: 58 New
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        130 kg of freshly frozen fat was packaged

        Nifiga, I did not understand these citizens ... Enlighten, I do not know, but what, do I need to take out the fat according to the customs declaration? Or are there any restrictions on its import / export?
        1. itkul
          itkul 9 July 2013 16: 48 New
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          Quote: Wedmak
          Enlighten, I do not know, but what, do I need to take out the fat according to the customs declaration? Or are there any restrictions on its import / export?


          Here, there are answers to questions on customs

          http://www.pro-krym.ru/?/castom/

          Question 7. I've taken a meal with me. I like to eat on the road. They will not forbid me?
          Answer: it depends on what to eat. Food can be transported in the amount of not more than 50 euros and not more than 2 kg. All that is higher can be taken away (or levied with a wild duty). So it’s not worth eating 5 cans of black caviar or a box of potatoes on the road.
    3. pensioner
      pensioner 9 July 2013 17: 41 New
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      Quote: Lukich
      and Vinnitsa moonshine abruptly any viskar !!! ...

      I don’t know, I don’t know ... I would have thought more at the expense of Kryvyi Rih ... The infection was good!
  21. sashka
    sashka 9 July 2013 15: 37 New
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    And Peter 1 .. How will you write if you do not respect the LETTER "e". ? Russians, this is our history and our language .. There is nothing to do here who does not understand the difference .. Urya patriots .. Awww ..
  22. sashka
    sashka 9 July 2013 15: 43 New
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    And Peter 1 .. How will you write if you do not respect the LETTER "e". ? Russians, this is our history and our language .. There is nothing to do here who does not understand the difference ..
  23. major1959
    major1959 9 July 2013 15: 47 New
    +1
    Lutsky Maxim Georgievich, born in 1976, Kiev.
    Father Georgy Mikhailovich - professor of the National Technical University of Ukraine “Kiev Polytechnic Institute”, mother Nelly Mitrofanovna - researcher at the Institute of Cybernetics named after V. M. Glushkov, Academy of Sciences of Ukraine
    In 1992, he entered the Kiev Polytechnic Institute (AS UNEXPECTED!), Where he received a master's degree. In the third year, Maxim won a competition from the Association of Technical Universities of the World and went on an internship to Germany, (WHICH A GIFTED BOY).
    In 1998 he entered the graduate school of the KPI (☺)
    2004 - candidate of technical sciences.
    2008 - Vice-Rector for International Relations at the National Aviation University, and then - First Vice-Rector of NAU.
    He began his political career in the ranks of the Yulia Tymoshenko Bloc, in his words, she "carried hope to the Maidan, a skinny її vistup having reminded my heart to win."
    In the fall of 2006, he ran into the coalition of Viktor Yanukovych.
    Information appeared in the media that Maxim Lutsky was convicted under part 3 of article 213 of the Criminal Code - "dowry with my zbutu lane, finished with a wicked hat."
  24. sashka
    sashka 9 July 2013 15: 47 New
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    If you write somehow more tightly, the moderators immediately blow away the "roof" .. Could it be robots on a German site? The FSB does not sleep .. If so I'm glad ..
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  26. Strashila
    Strashila 9 July 2013 15: 56 New
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    To have it does not mean to be able to.
  27. sashka
    sashka 9 July 2013 15: 59 New
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    I am ready to "take" the blow on myself .. And you And the windows are not close here .. You do not even understand what this is about ...
  28. waisson
    waisson 9 July 2013 16: 07 New
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    this is a dumpling for us .......
  29. sashka
    sashka 9 July 2013 16: 14 New
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    I'm ready to "take" the blow on myself .. And you And the windows are not close here .. You do not even understand what this is about ... I cannot comment .. cTHUTQ GHBDTN /// SORRY ... IT HAS BEEN THIS ..
  30. escobar
    escobar 9 July 2013 16: 20 New
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    Quote: dominion
    Ukrainian gorilka has no analogues in the world.

    REALLY DO NOT HAVE. Our vodka is really cool and inexpensive. But I also like the Russian "Green Mark"))
    1. velikoros-xnumx
      velikoros-xnumx 9 July 2013 21: 40 New
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      What are you talking about? It is also vodka in Africa - vodka is a little softer, it is harsher, but whatever one may say, it's just a water-alcohol solution. Good quality of the original alcohol, the technology of obtaining the solution is followed, here you have soft vodka, if not, then vice versa. Well, there is no tasty vodka, water tinctures on vodka yes, they do.
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 9 July 2013 22: 54 New
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        Quote: velikoros-xnumx
        t. Well, there is no tasty vodka,

        It’s always not enough, wink !
        1. velikoros-xnumx
          velikoros-xnumx 10 July 2013 10: 21 New
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          There is one.
          -In moderate amounts, vodka is useful in all doses drinks
  31. Fastblast
    Fastblast 9 July 2013 16: 32 New
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    Such comrades, like this M. Lutsky, must be driven into bottles with their photos and thrown to the bottom of the Mariana Trench.
  32. Vlad_Mir
    Vlad_Mir 9 July 2013 16: 47 New
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    Advertising, advertising, advertising!
  33. Alexandr2510
    Alexandr2510 9 July 2013 16: 58 New
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    Yes, there can be power (for now), but soon there will be no one to work. Indeed, it is agreed (as mentioned above) that Ukraine unfortunately reminds Russia 15-20 years ago (relatives themselves live there). recourse
  34. 128mgb
    128mgb 9 July 2013 17: 10 New
    +2
    MIG-21 is how old are they? Is there anything else to fix? Or they were on conservation.
  35. makst83
    makst83 9 July 2013 17: 23 New
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    No offense! Truly "GREAT" achievement of the Ukrainian side, to win the tender for the modernization of the MiG-21!)))
  36. pensioner
    pensioner 9 July 2013 17: 44 New
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    Quote: major1959
    Lutsky Maxim Georgievich, born in 1976, Kiev.
    Father Georgy Mikhailovich - professor of the National Technical University of Ukraine “Kiev Polytechnic Institute”, mother Nelly Mitrofanovna - researcher at the Institute of Cybernetics named after V. M. Glushkov, Academy of Sciences of Ukraine

    Well ... Now everything is clear ... He himself has no analogues ... At least in Ukraine ...
  37. papss
    papss 9 July 2013 17: 53 New
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    Quote: dominion
    Ukrainian gorilka has no analogues in the world.

    And fat ... :) yes
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 9 July 2013 22: 54 New
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      Quote: papss
      And fat ... :)

      !good! And under the vodka: in general good good good !
  38. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 9 July 2013 18: 11 New
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    Ukraine has powerful manufacturing capabilities in the aircraft industry, which have no analogues in the world.

    Kanabis from Dutch manufacturers has no analogues in the world. wassat
    "Sukhoi", "Ilyushin", "Tupolev", "Yakovlev" went into a binge. Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman hysterical.
  39. Avenger711
    Avenger711 9 July 2013 18: 16 New
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    Hand-face, what else can you say. They have no analogues in the degree of collapse.
    1. Corneli
      Corneli 9 July 2013 21: 51 New
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      Quote: Avenger711
      Hand-face, what else can you say. They have no analogues in the degree of collapse.

      I just waited ... I looked forward to ... your appearance, how could such a "sweet article" be without your "smart" comments / thoughts! (
      P.S. Ukrainian. aviation industry hmm ... a parody, by and large ... except for Motor Sich ... there is no one to "boast"! But even so, dear "avenger", how is it there in Russia? Besides the SU brand? How is the MiG? TU? IL? I am sure they live and prosper! (GLORY TO COMRADE PUTIN !!!) The whole world is knocked down, everyone dreams of buying their products! This is not a crumpled Boeing, Logheed, Airbus ...
      But you should try hard! Write down what is there with production, income, etc. etc. at the above-listed design bureaus (och advanced in the USSR enterprises). Current try not in the spirit of the entoy article ... about "analogs"! (
      1. Avenger711
        Avenger711 10 July 2013 02: 42 New
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        How are the builders of Tupolev-Plaza and Ilyushin-finance doing, or how it is there, ask them, and Putin has nothing to do with it, but our military aviation has survived the 90s and is already issuing all kinds of Su-3x and MiG-29K to the mountain Yes, and SSJ has all the certificates, and for a long time An-148 broke, which no one except the rogue and Russia does not take. Apparently this is such a handout, participation in this project, and even at a loss.

        Antonov Design Bureau received from the Union all the necessary equipment for development, the remaining design bureaus in Moscow used common resources. Got transport planes, which are now earning loot and nevertheless, produce almost nothing. So who was there advanced in the USSR, another question.

        In short, there is an aviation industry in Russia, there is no aviation industry in Ukraine.
        1. Corneli
          Corneli 10 July 2013 03: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: Avenger711
          How are the builders of Tupolev Plaza and Ilyushin-finance doing, or whatever it is, ask them, and Putin has nothing to do with it,

          Hmm, are they not Russian companies? Why should I be aware of and even "ask" them? belay
          Quote: Avenger711
          but our military aviation survived the 90s

          Yeah! The rest of the former republics simply flourished at this time! lol
          Quote: Avenger711
          and already gives out to the mountain all kinds of Su-3x and MiG-29K,

          Well, what is a Su-3x? I’m not good at it (and what about the MiG-29K? What are you talking about? MiG-29K - the first flight of 1988 (the distant years of the USSR) and they were made (25 years have passed) as many as 20 (ite Indians). Ah yes ... it’s also like Russia, by 2015 they threaten to do 24 !!!
          Quote: Avenger711
          Yes, and SSJ has all the certificates, and for a long time An-148 broke, which no one except the rogue and Russia does not take. Apparently this is such a handout, participation in this project, and even at a loss.

          LTD!
          An-148-Start of operation-June 2, 2009 (Cost of development program-592 million cu !!!, Unit cost-30 million cu) Russia operates 14 units (pepper is clear ... why is it true xs), Ukraine 3
          Sukhoi Superjet 100-Start of operation-April 21, 2011 (Cost of development program-1,3 billion cu, Unit cost-35,4 million cu) 13 aircraft operated by Russia? moreover, as they say at a loss belay And 2 more like Laos and Indonesia ... This is definitely a VICTORY !!!
          Quote: Avenger711
          Antonov Design Bureau received from the Union all the necessary equipment for development, the remaining design bureaus in Moscow used common resources.

          It's just BUT KOMENT!
          Quote: Avenger711
          Got transport planes, which are now earning loot and nevertheless, produces almost nothing. So who was there advanced in the USSR, another question.

          Clear Ukrainian pepper !!! In the RSFSR, apparently there were no factories, design bureaus, aircraft, etc. They built everything from scratch!
          Quote: Avenger711
          In short, there is an aviation industry in Russia, there is no aviation industry in Ukraine.

          I would even agree with your "short", if only you did not write so many "long" heresies)
          In general, after reading your theses, I recall 2 pictures: http: //topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/374/dcop336.jpg
          http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/005/dsrm396.jpg
          P.S. Oh god How to razminusyvatsya on the nerves)
  40. IOwTZ
    IOwTZ 9 July 2013 19: 10 New
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    Lutsky come to us, take a steam bath.
  41. tegezen
    tegezen 9 July 2013 19: 25 New
    +1
    Capacities are different. Ukrainian aircraft factories are Soviet factories, i.e. 30 years old, obsolete in short. Airplanes don't do that now. Now end-to-end digital design, high-speed metalworking on multifunctional machine tools, stackless assembly, composites "lean production", etc., all this is available at KNAAPO, IRKUT, in Novosibirsk at the Chkalov plant and is being implemented at other plants. This is not the case at Ukrainian factories. Labor productivity is different. A different approach to production. Ukrainian factories are outdated and lagging behind, making several planes a year, in fact, manual assembly.
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 10 July 2013 02: 42 New
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      5 aircraft per year, more precisely 4,9.
  42. andsavichev2012
    andsavichev2012 9 July 2013 19: 27 New
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    The modernization of MIG-21 at the factories of Novorossia - this network is the limit of the technological possibilities of the Maloros aircraft industry
  43. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 9 July 2013 20: 16 New
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    Western Ukraine ... they’ve gotten sick ... like Moscow .... m for sale .. But the fact that the production capacities didn’t fall apart is plus for you Brothers Ukrainians .. we’ll load it .. Most importantly, do not let the amers go ... they’ll ruin it and put it on metal ..We hope for you .. !!!
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 10 July 2013 02: 44 New
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      What power? Everything collapsed for a long time, enough to work out their 500 p. Nobody except Russia needs Ukrainian products, and Russia refuses it.
  44. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 9 July 2013 20: 50 New
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    The guys on the way order for the modernization of Farmans and Newporov for Upper Baobabia.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 9 July 2013 20: 55 New
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      order to upgrade Farmans and Newpors for Upper Baobabia.

      Oh well. Our joiners will be happy to carry out this work, they’ll also fasten something modernized ... I don’t know there ... hanging crossbows, containers with cactus spines ....
  45. Corneli
    Corneli 9 July 2013 21: 41 New
    +1
    Actually, what was required to prove! The "Ukrainophiles" climbed out (GLORY TO THE TROL! WHICH WAS THAT THIS ARTICLE !!!) And away we go ...
  46. Skifo
    Skifo 9 July 2013 22: 34 New
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    It seems that if anything remains, then these are Soviet developments and factories! Previously, the scientific base in Ukraine was very powerful - for example, only 66 research institutes operated in Kharkov (according to Wikipedia). How things are now is difficult to judge ...
  47. phantom359
    phantom359 9 July 2013 22: 46 New
    +2
    Well, see, there are no analogues. In bent. I saw these analogs.
  48. Akim
    Akim 10 July 2013 04: 28 New
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    The article is really empty. But I will focus on another topic, which is being absorbed here. Many of the comments of Russians remind me of the comments of the French, who have never been to Ukraine and are used to seeing everything from high. In that year, in Donetsk, they arrived on a charter for one day, they didn’t see a damn thing, they fell into the rain and the same comments were wet. The British who lived at the campsite are happy with elephants after swimming. But also, at first, some at first looked with a high, then with a fright. Their media tried. I was not in Russia in the 93rd, but I was a teenager in the Belgorod region in the 94th. The impression of the village is not very encouraging. As for the present. I do not really believe that tsarist life began to reign in Russia in two years, for I saw on the example of Novorossiysk, Taganrog, Shakhty that this is not entirely true. And you can sweeten everyone if you want. Its G ... - raspberries.
  49. individual
    individual 10 July 2013 07: 35 New
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    Advertising "the engine of progress" about this and an article by the chairman of the Supervisory Council of Ukraine Maxim Lutsky.
  50. Sharingan
    Sharingan 10 July 2013 09: 23 New
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    "It has no analogues in the world" - has already become a hackneyed phrase among Russian officials, and now the Ukrainians have fed up.
    Where, Mlyn, do not spit - you will find yourself in something that has no analogues in the world.