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“We must improve relations with Russia, despite past events”

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Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili caused a small international scandal. He stated that the secret codes of the Hermes 450 unmanned aircraft, purchased by Georgia from Israel shortly before the August 2008 war, were transmitted by the Israelis of Russia. Observers immediately tied this statement to the failure of the Israeli purchase negotiations. weaponswhich, according to a number of media reports, were led by opponent Saakashvili, Prime Minister Bidzina Ivanishvili. The correspondent of “NI” talked with the Georgian Minister of Defense Irakly ALASANIA about this, as well as about the defense policy of Georgia.


- Please comment history with the failed purchase of "UAVs" and anti-tank missiles from Israel by Georgia.

- Georgia at this stage does not need additional weapons, and the recent visit of Prime Minister Ivanishvili to Israel was not related to the purchase of weapons. I myself have already said in this regard that we are no longer in a state of war with Russia and there is an opportunity to promote defense cooperation with Israel. This was exactly what was going on during Mr. Ivanishvili’s visit to Israel, but this visit was not focused on the purchase of weapons by Georgia.

- The issue of impeachment of President Saakashvili is being seriously discussed in Georgian society. For his early resignation expressed and many members of parliament. A question for you as a longtime opponent of the president and one of the members of the Prime Minister’s team: will there be an impeachment?

- I think we should wait until the presidential election. They will be held very soon - in October of this year. Then the people will say their word. Now people must suffer. No need to hurry. The procedure for dismissing the head of state is so complicated that it will take at least a year. This is a collection of signatures, and the court, and a second vote in parliament. For impeachment you need to collect the signatures of 50 deputies, this is a third of all members of parliament. Then a request for impeachment is considered by the Supreme Court (if the head of state committed a criminal offense) or the Constitutional Court (if he violated the constitution). Within a month, the judges pass their verdict, which must then be finally approved by at least 100 deputies. So everything is very difficult.

- Is it true that Georgia this spring increased the number of those called up for military service? This was reported by Russian media. If the call was really increased, then what is the reason? Is Georgia preparing to fight with someone?

- This is incorrect information. This year, on the contrary, we have reduced the number of recruits, although at the same time we are increasing the number of “contract soldiers”. This is being done within the framework of the military reform begun by the previous government, so that by the end of 2016, the beginning of 2017, the Georgian army will completely switch to a contractual basis. Today, 75% of all military personnel are professional military, and 25% are conscripts. Simultaneously with the reduction in the number of recruits, we plan to increase the number of reservists by changing the reserve system itself: it will be of three types - combat, territorial and civil. As a result, we want to create modern armed forces in Georgia that will meet all NATO standards. Their main goal will be to protect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of our country, as well as participation in international operations.

- At a recent meeting of the Georgia-NATO Council, Ivanishvili confirmed that part of the American troops would be withdrawn from Afghanistan to Europe, including through the railways of Azerbaijan and your country. Will American soldiers soon appear in Georgia?

- Indeed, such a route for the withdrawal of international troops from Afghanistan was approved. The project is planned to reconstruct the railway section Akhalkalaki-Marabda-Tbilisi, which will increase its throughput to 15 million tons of cargo per year. In addition, in Akhalkalaki, it is planned to build a point for the transfer of trains from the 1520 mm to the “European” gauge (1435 mm) existing in Georgia. We expect that annually 30 million tons of cargo per year will be transported via the Baku-Tbilisi-Akhalkalaki-Kars highway. The new message will not only connect the railway systems of the three countries (Georgia, Azerbaijan and Turkey), but also allow for the transportation of goods from China and the Central Asian republics to Europe.

- And what about another project, which you supported as well? I mean the restoration of the railway from Georgia to Russia through Abkhazia.

- Personally, I have long been, back in 2005 year, talked about this and advocated the implementation of this project. But now, probably, not the best time for this, as they say, he should “ripen”. And when the time comes, it will definitely be implemented. My task as Minister of Defense is to prevent in the future a new escalation of relations between Russia and Georgia. The line pursued by the new Georgian government is distinguished by pragmatism. This is extremely important for us, because we have to improve relations with Russia, despite past events.

- At the beginning of last month, a suicide bomber attacked a Georgian base in Helmand province in Afghanistan, killing seven soldiers. After that, a video appeared on the Web allegedly from the Taliban threatening Georgia ...

“For our part, we carried out a thorough investigation of the incident.” Also, a similar investigation is conducted by the command of NATO forces in Afghanistan. According to preliminary estimates, it is quite possible to argue that this attack was not directed directly against the Georgians.
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  1. smel
    smel 11 July 2013 08: 58 New
    19
    No one expects Georgia to crawl on its knees to ask for forgiveness. Georgia is not Saakashvili, and Saakashvili is not Georgia. In my opinion, Georgia just needs to learn politeness in bilateral relations and respect for history (especially common). Then Onishchenko will not be scary
    1. Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru 11 July 2013 13: 06 New
      18
      hi

      No one expects Georgia to crawl on its knees to ask for forgiveness.


      Georgia needs Russia only as a market for its wine, mineral water, mandarin and other greens ...
      And on their knees they have someone to crawl before, which they regularly demonstrate ...
      1. datur
        datur 11 July 2013 18: 55 New
        +3
        [quote = Apologet.Ru]

        Georgia needs Russia only as a market for its wine, mineral water, mandarin and other greens ...
        And on their knees they have someone to crawl before, which they regularly show ... and why do we need their tangerines and so on - I like Spanish and Moroccan citrus fruits for example, they will be tastier than Georgian ones! I do not like wine (although Hungarian Tokay, tasty), but I prefer my local mineral water !!! wink
        1. starshina78
          starshina78 11 July 2013 21: 42 New
          +3
          Have you tried "Kindzmarauli" "Khvanchkara"? If not, you haven't tasted good wine either! I do not argue "Tokai" is beautiful! But the above wines are divine! It's nectar! And what is bad about "Borjomi"? He's wonderful! And don't speak badly about what you haven't tried. Georgia may need Russia as a sales market, but Russia also needs Georgia as a friendly state with a non-aligned orientation. Why does Russia need NATO by its side? Indeed, if Georgia joins NATO, the question of revising the status of the Black Sea may immediately arise, which means that NATO ships can be permanently based in the Black Sea. Like this !
          1. Apologet.Ru
            Apologet.Ru 11 July 2013 22: 13 New
            +1
            Quote.
            As a result, in Georgia we want to create modern armed forces that will meet all NATO standards.

            And you -
            Russia needs Russia as a friendly state with a non-aligned orientation

            Do not be so naive, "the claw is stuck - the bird is lost"! And NATO is "on your doorstep" ...
    2. Dober
      Dober 11 July 2013 17: 44 New
      +5
      Quote: smel
      Then Onishchenko will not be scary

      Onishchenko is always terrible for everyone! For Georgians (and not only) it is like a slipper for a cockroach. He alone (with one ban on something) is capable of "stopping the PURCHASE of new weapons" and "reducing payments to contractors."
      Onishchenko is an environmentally friendly, economically viable Russian weapon. Very effective against all kinds of "new democracies".
  2. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 11 July 2013 09: 02 New
    10
    Politicians need to learn politeness in bilateral relations. And do not interfere with the peoples in solving their personal problems.
  3. soldat1945
    soldat1945 11 July 2013 09: 20 New
    10
    Judging by the interview, the minister is very adequate, but it’s a pity that he’s still going to NATO, we’ll wake Georgia to consider it as a probable opponent, but it’s a pity!
    1. Geokingxnumx
      Geokingxnumx 11 July 2013 10: 39 New
      0
      Quote: soldat1945
      Judging by the interview, the minister is very adequate, but it’s a pity that he’s still going to NATO, we’ll wake Georgia to consider it as a probable opponent, but it’s a pity!

      Well, yes) if everything was the other way around when we would not have conflicts. In NATO we would not be
      1. Apologet.Ru
        Apologet.Ru 11 July 2013 11: 50 New
        +6
        hi

        Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
        After receiving a grant, he went to the Strasbourg International Institute of Human Rights. In a year, as a fellow of the US Department of Statewas aimed at training at Columbia University (New York), where in 1994 he received a master's degree in law. Studied at J. Washington University in Washington, trained at the Academy of European Law in Florence and at the Hague Academy of International Law.
        He worked at the Norwegian Institute of Human Rights in Oslo, then at the New York law firm Patterson, Belknap, Webb & Tyler, which was involved in the legal support of US oil and gas projects in the CIS. (Note that in Georgia this company became the legal partner of the Kmara youth organization, which played a role in the Rose Revolution.
        )


        when we wouldn’t have conflicts. In NATO we wouldn’t be


        Yeah with such ruler of all Georgia, do you even believe in what you wrote?
        His specially taught create these conflicts with Russia. And apparently good teachers were. Yes, and the grateful student was caught ...
        1. Geokingxnumx
          Geokingxnumx 11 July 2013 16: 51 New
          0
          hi
          According to some media reports, in 1988, Saakashvili was expelled from the Komsomol and expelled from the university for distributing dissident literature [8]. He was able to recover at the university only after passing in the 1989 — 90 years of military service in border troops of the KGB of the USSR.

          he spent 2 of the year there (in America) then became a student of Shevardnadze
          interesting biography from his uncle who financed him)

          Quote: Apologet.Ru
          He was specifically taught to create these conflicts with Russia.

          maybe life! but before Saakashvili there was an Abkhaz war who helped Armament and Living Force, you know)
      2. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 11 July 2013 14: 49 New
        +5
        Quote: GEOKING95
        if everything was the other way around when we would not have conflicts. In NATO we would not be

        Yes, dear Djordjians, come in, even if a goat gets into a crack, only let this crack feed you and drink and buy your wine and a barge, but without you, we will find mineral water and wine and tangerines and less if you could see your lovely faces in Russia , and a cavernous native speech from your lying lips to hear. smile
        1. Geokingxnumx
          Geokingxnumx 11 July 2013 16: 43 New
          0
          Quote: cherkas.oe
          Yes, dear Djordjians, come in, even if a goat gets into a crack, only let this crack feed you and drink and buy your wine and a barge, but without you, we will find mineral water and wine and tangerines and less if you could see your lovely faces in Russia , and a cavernous native speech from your lying lips to hear.

          do you like to offend others? more importantly
          1. 101
            101 11 July 2013 23: 52 New
            +1
            Do not we such a world Look around everywhere live by the rule who is not with us is against us So why only from Russia they require affection and greetings and they themselves come with a stone in the bosom
      3. 101
        101 11 July 2013 23: 47 New
        0
        (well, if everything was the other way around when we would not have conflicts In NATO, we would not be like the half of Europe that were friends with the USSR and suddenly fell into NATO) That's it completely and write No excuses
  4. Zhzhuk
    Zhzhuk 11 July 2013 09: 20 New
    +4
    if Saakashvili has shown himself once the essence hasn’t changed lately, maybe he’s just trying to stay in power, he’s a very dangerous person, plus a lot of information that he is an addict, if this is so easy to manipulate, and the likelihood that by order in case of any military conflicts will adhere to the anti-Russian side, no matter what it turns out for the country and the population of Georgia

    I don’t want to offend anyone who considers himself a Georgian or is connected with this country, but for Russia, especially in an unstable region, such a neighbor represented by Misha is a huge danger
    1. Zhzhuk
      Zhzhuk 11 July 2013 09: 45 New
      +5
      here's another video clearly the person is not in adequate condition
      I remember how much Yeltsin broke firewood drunk
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 11 July 2013 09: 48 New
        +5
        But surely stoned !!
    2. Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru 11 July 2013 20: 31 New
      +1
      hi

      I don’t want to offend anyone who considers himself a Georgian or is connected with this country, but for Russia, especially in an unstable region, such a neighbor represented by Misha is a huge danger




      repeat
  5. pensioner
    pensioner 11 July 2013 09: 21 New
    +2
    It is planned to build a station for the transfer of trains from the existing in Georgia gauge of 1520 mm to the "European" (1435 mm).
    In-in ... With this, it all starts ...
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 11 July 2013 09: 36 New
      -8
      Quote: retired
      It is planned to build a station for the transfer of trains from the existing in Georgia gauge of 1520 mm to the "European" (1435 mm).




      the region is developing .... and what’s so ..... you see the traces of the enemies of Russia in everything .... this is a purely technical necessity .....
      you must blame first of all blame the hands of Catherine, when she indicated the gauge .. smile
      1. Rashid
        Rashid 11 July 2013 10: 00 New
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        "Catherine, you were wrong ...". Anyone who knows a little history will not blame Catherine II for the sale of Alaska (generally stupid) or for the track gauge. Under her there were no railways at all, they appeared and were built under Nicholas I, and the fact that the different gauge is correct, it helped us a lot in 1941-42, otherwise the German cars would go straight without reloading on our territory.
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 11 July 2013 10: 20 New
          -2
          Quote: Rashid
          Who knows a little history


          friend ... you see the smiley ... I often see that some visitors to this site have problems with humor.)))))

          and if a little seriously, the tsar said - nah.n wider .... and the idea was English .. that helped build in 1836 ...
          By the way in Spain - the track of 1810 .. and that .....- also defended themselves from enemies and from the Germans))))))
        2. d_trader
          d_trader 11 July 2013 12: 35 New
          +5
          Catherine II didn’t sell Alaska at all, then Alexander II was on the throne. The general sale of Alaska was connected with payments to the landlords for the abolition of serfdom, and in the first place, probably because Russia could lose this territory because it was difficult to control because of its remoteness. So at that time it was the right decision.
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 11 July 2013 10: 03 New
        +1
        Quote: smersh70
        you must blame first of all blame the hands of Catherine, when she indicated the gauge ..

        ??
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 11 July 2013 10: 25 New
          +4
          Quote: Spade
          ??


          Since the mid-1th century, the standard on the railways of Russia (later the USSR), Finland and Mongolia has been chosen for a gauge of 524 mm (the so-called “Russian gauge”), since it provides the transport of goods of a larger mass than the gauge common in Western Europe width of 1 435 mm. From May 1970 to the beginning of the 1990s, the railways of the USSR were transferred to a gauge of 1 mm. This was done in order to increase the stability of the track during the operation of freight trains, to increase their speed without upgrading the rolling stock itself. After the collapse of the USSR, this is the standard gauge on the railways of all countries formed in its place. Finnish railways to this day continue to use the previous standard - 520 mm.

          The difference of 4 mm does not require re-equipment of the rolling stock, but at the transitional stage it caused serious problems with sharply increased wear of the wheelsets of the rolling stock.

          However, until the end, the relationship between the track width or, more correctly, the gap between the inner faces of the rail heads and wheel flanges (flanges) of the wheel pair with the intensity of their wear could not be established.

          The same gauge (1 mm) is used in all subways of Russia and the CIS. Many tram lines use 520 mm gauge (although there are narrow gauge tram systems with a 1 meter gauge, for example, in Kaliningrad, Pyatigorsk, Lviv, Vinnitsa, Zhytomyr and Yevpatoriya).
          In Ukraine, trams in Yevpatoriya, Lviv, Vinnitsa and Zhytomyr have a meter gauge.
          In Rostov-on-Don, the European standard gauge of 1 mm is used for trams.
          It is interesting to note that the very first railway in Russia - Tsarskoye Selo - had an even wider gauge: 1 829 mm.
          A gauge width of 1 mm was first used in Russia during the construction of the Nikolaev railway (mid-524th century). Perhaps this was due to the fact that consultants from America worked at the construction site, and especially J.W. Whistler (at that time this track was popular in the southern states of the USA). It is also possible that Russian engineers P.P. Melnikov and N.O. Kraft, who visited America before starting the construction of the Nikolaev railway, suggested using this gauge. In addition, this track gauge was convenient in that it expressed a round number of 5 feet. There is a widespread opinion that the military aspect also played a role in choosing the gauge - a gauge different from the European one would make it difficult for a hypothetical opponent to supply troops in case of invasion of Russia (this was the case during World War II, when German troops had to change the gauge for their mobile composition).
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 11 July 2013 10: 36 New
            +4
            I mean, from which side is Catherine here?
      3. pensioner
        pensioner 11 July 2013 10: 12 New
        +3
        Quote: smersh70
        the region is developing

        Good afternoon! I understand that our track is the main obstacle to development? Hmm ... okay ...
        Quote: smersh70
        this is a purely technical need .....

        They also killed our peacekeepers out of the same need. Therefore, the attitude towards them is not very good. I said this softly. Highly.
        Quote: Smersh
        Again they are planning something
        -That's your namesake also sees a catch. I'm not the only one ...
        And the Americans will forget to leave Georgia. You'll see...
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 11 July 2013 10: 23 New
          -5
          Quote: retired
          Good afternoon! I understand that our track is the main obstacle to development? Hmm ... okay ..


          Dear Senior Citizen, sometimes I don’t distinguish YOU from Comrade Lopatov ..)) the same thoughts ... and here the peacekeepers ... not in the main topic ... hi
          and I didn’t say anything about the track, that it hinders development ..... it would be better if all the tracks in the world were the same size ... there would be no need to build different stations about changing wheels there ..
          look at the world easier .... everywhere you see the machinations of the enemies of Russia .... it is better to strengthen civil society in the country, the army .. to develop democracy, the economy .... and not a single enemy is terrible !!!!!!!
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 11 July 2013 10: 32 New
            +3
            Quote: smersh70
            sometimes I do not distinguish YOU from comrade Lopatov ..)) one and the other

            The cities are different ...
          2. pensioner
            pensioner 11 July 2013 10: 37 New
            +3
            Quote: smersh70
            it would be better if all the tracks in the world were the same size ...

            Well, well ... Thinking is so global! Let's do everything the same then! What do we take as a standard? We cut off the left-handed hands of the left-handed, stretch the Koreans, file the Norwegians. Well, the Caucasus subsoil. Sticks out, however, strongly ... Ural is upset ... wassat
            And behind all these changes, one thing is visible. All these are actions aimed at the complete breaking of any ties with Russia. Whatever they touch. Railways or spirituality, military traditions or theatrical, history or literature ...
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 11 July 2013 10: 43 New
              -2
              Quote: retired
              Well, the Caucasus subsoil. Sticks out, however strongly ... Ural is upset



              To whom, and to a bald-haired .... laughing . compared .... left-handed and right-handed created by God ... and not for us to judge .. although doctors do plastic surgery .....
              and a man created a rut ..... that’s the difference)))))
              1. pensioner
                pensioner 11 July 2013 14: 15 New
                +2
                Quote: smersh70
                To whom, and to the bald

                Not yet... good
          3. Lopatov
            Lopatov 11 July 2013 10: 46 New
            +3
            The Russian, Armenian and your railways have a Soviet track. What is the meaning of Georgia’s transition to European?
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 11 July 2013 10: 58 New
              -2
              Quote: Spade
              What is the meaning of Georgia’s transition to European?



              Lopatov .. as Yarbai says, love to argue)))))
              1..Georgia does not switch to the western gauge !!!!!
              2. a railway is being built-Baku-Tbilisi-Kars ... towards Turkey ... due to the fact that Turkey uses a different gauge, a station is being built at the border (as in Brest) to re-shoe the train))))))) ))) That's it .... smile
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 11 July 2013 11: 07 New
                0
                Then, it's OK.
              2. ed65b
                ed65b 11 July 2013 19: 50 New
                +2
                They are the aircraft carrier who are going to scare Iran to transport Iran.
          4. cherkas.oe
            cherkas.oe 11 July 2013 15: 14 New
            +4
            Quote: smersh70
            .... everywhere you see the machinations of the enemies of Russia ...

            Why see you, Basmachi, you can be seen and heard without glasses and binoculars, even here on the site, and your songs are so-and-so-so-so-so-and-so-and-so civil society and democracy, leave it to your masters. We know about the economy and the army without the snotty. laughing
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 11 July 2013 15: 39 New
              -4
              Quote: cherkas.oe
              Why see you, basmache, you without glasses



              By the way, and you yourself have chosen a login Basmachskoe laughing laughing but you don’t want to listen to songs, you need to plug your ears with plugs))))) don’t love you, all the same, Bolotnaya Square)))))
              1. cherkas.oe
                cherkas.oe 11 July 2013 21: 49 New
                -2
                Quote: smersh70
                you chose Basmach’s laughing laughing, but don’t want to listen to songs, you need to plug your ears with earplugs

                Gags yourself, you know where to put in? So that you do not stink. And I do not need to poke snub-nosed, I did not graze sheep with you.
          5. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 11 July 2013 21: 24 New
            -1
            smersh70 (1) AZ
            "Look at the simpler world .... everywhere you see the machinations of Russia's enemies .... it is better to strengthen the civil society in the country, the army .. to develop democracy, the economy .... and no enemy is afraid!"

            Survived, now you are a Caucasian miracle in the outfit of the special forces will you give advice to Russia? Write to Putin with the whole village or barbecue, maybe even listen)).
          6. Misantrop
            Misantrop 12 July 2013 00: 14 New
            0
            Quote: smersh70
            develop democracy, economy ...
            Just as they began to develop democracy in the 90s, so the economy immediately collapsed for some reason. Simultaneously with the emergence of a huge number of dollar millionaires ... An interesting pattern, right? what
      4. IRBIS
        IRBIS 11 July 2013 11: 24 New
        +6
        Quote: smersh70
        you must blame first of all blame the hands of Catherine, when she indicated the gauge ..

        Well, Catherine with her hands has nothing to do with it.
        Historical anecdote.
        .. When they came to Nicholas I with a report on their readiness to build railways, the following dialogue occurred:
        - What rut will we do, tsar-father? Like in England or wider?
        The king thought and asked:
        - On x .. wider?
        The officials did not understand the question and since then in Russia the track on 12 is wider than the European one. smile
        1. Gato
          Gato 11 July 2013 15: 49 New
          +2
          - On x .. wider?
          The officials did not understand the question and since then in Russia the gauge is 12 cm wider than the European

          Uh ... why so little? repeat Officials were circumcised?
          1. IRBIS
            IRBIS 11 July 2013 19: 08 New
            +1
            Quote: Gato
            Uh ... why so little?

            Quote: Gato
            Officials were circumcised?

            So they came from the cold, everything cringed ...
            1. ed65b
              ed65b 11 July 2013 21: 45 New
              +1
              So they measured in thickness, and you thought in length?)))))
      5. Dober
        Dober 11 July 2013 17: 54 New
        0
        Quote: smersh70
        you must blame first of all blame the hands of Catherine, when she indicated the gauge.

        Yes nuuu ... what This Frederica of Dormshtadskaya also identified the "wrong" echelons for aviation, and radio frequencies for dispatchers also approved unfavorable for the Georgian Empire. request laughing
      6. Mercenary
        Mercenary 11 July 2013 19: 23 New
        +1
        Stop blaming everything on Catherine. It was not she who sold Alaska and she was not building the first railway road.
      7. 77bor1973
        77bor1973 11 July 2013 20: 21 New
        0
        But the translation of the gauge is a stupidity that even the Baltic countries did not go to, and for them it will be more important. Georgians better go to a gauge of 2100mm.
    2. Cheloveck
      Cheloveck 11 July 2013 18: 06 New
      0
      Quote: retired
      In-in ... With this, it all starts ...

      What is starting?
      The usual transfer point from gauge to gauge, similar to those existing on the borders with Geyropa, China, Iran.
      Kars, I dare say, is in Turkey using the European gauge.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 11 July 2013 19: 56 New
        0
        Quote: Cheloveck
        What is starting?
        The usual transfer point from gauge to gauge, similar to those existing on the borders with Geyropa, China, Iran.
        Kars, I dare say, is in Turkey using the European gauge.

        Yes ... Well, don't be so specific ... like: "Get on your nose", "turn inside out", "die, but do it!" ... I thought that:
        Quote: retired
        In-in ... With this, it all starts ...
        from the same series. But apparently ...
  6. pensioner
    pensioner 11 July 2013 09: 24 New
    +4
    And Jewish drones sales will soon collapse. The most powerful competitor has entered the market! In a cap - an aerodrome ... They knew - they started to make such caps 50 years ago ...
    1. igor36
      igor36 11 July 2013 10: 33 New
      +4
      Georgian super-pilot: starts with the operator’s cap. lol soldier
    2. Quiet
      Quiet 11 July 2013 22: 02 New
      0
      The most powerful competitor has entered the market! In a cap - an airfield ...

      Such a cap competently launched as a boomerang is capable of shooting down any drone at a height of up to 100 meters !!!! laughing bully wassat
  7. Smersh
    Smersh 11 July 2013 09: 25 New
    +1
    This was precisely what happened during the visit of Mr. Ivanishvili to Israel, but this visit was not focused on the purchase of weapons by Georgia.


    Again they are planning something
  8. makst83
    makst83 11 July 2013 10: 11 New
    0
    To establish relations with Georgia, but .... without Mishiko!
  9. Naval
    Naval 11 July 2013 10: 13 New
    +7
    I think Georgia is lost for us forever. A new generation has grown up that does not know the Russian language, does not know about the Great Patriotic War, but was brought up in the museum of occupation, walking along the avenues named after George W. Bush, considering America "the standard of democracy and freedom", with brainwashed so much that it can reach reason and logic not possible. The image of Russia as an enemy is laid from infancy.
    1. Geokingxnumx
      Geokingxnumx 11 July 2013 10: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Naval
      . A new generation has grown

      but Russia has not grown
      Quote: Naval
      who does not know the Russian language, not knowing about the Great Patriotic War,

      Well, I know the Russian language, and about the great Patriotic war) 80% knows Russian language about the war too
      Quote: Naval
      but brought up at the museum of occupation

      have never been there
      Quote: Naval
      walking along the avenues named after George W. Bush, who considers America "the standard of democracy and freedom",

      no no
      Quote: Naval
      , with brainwashed so much that it is not possible to reach the mind and logic.

      and you come to Georgia and see for yourself what is wrong)
      Quote: Naval
      The image of Russia as an enemy is laid down from infancy.

      :) we are taught to love our country and people and not to hate other peoples and country
      1. zmey_gadukin
        zmey_gadukin 11 July 2013 12: 10 New
        +2
        Georgia is one of the most hospitable countries in the world.
      2. Captain45
        Captain45 11 July 2013 13: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: GEOKING95
        Well, I know Russian language

        Actually, the RUSSIAN language, do not be offended, but knowing and writing correctly in Russian are different things. Although knowledge presupposes possession, "I think so!" (C) Frunzik Mkrtchyan "Mimino" (favorite film) lol
      3. Quiet
        Quiet 12 July 2013 23: 12 New
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        we are taught to love our country and people

        In the days of the USSR, you, the Georgians, loved only yourself, your Georgia and despised all the other republics of the USSR. Remember how a Russian tourist who bought a pack of Cosmos cigarettes and demanded change of 40 kopecks, your fellow countrymen threw change on the ground from the window of a tobacco kiosk ???. Or my case. 1982 year. Suburb of Tbilisi. 6 of your daty sweaty stinking sEms tried to drag three Russian students into their car. Your cops didn't care !!!! My friend and I beat them off (knocking out two teeth), took them by car to Adler and, for our money, put them on a train .... THIS IS YOUR HOSPITALITY ????? 08.08.08 showed WHO YOU ARE !!!! am
  10. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 11 July 2013 10: 30 New
    +5
    Georgia does not integrate into our infrastructure, which means it is almost indifferent to us, that is, we will not protect.
    Azerbaijan is a real tidbit that will help gobble up the western infrastructure.
    The reason will be created by "aggressive" Azerbaijan itself.
    The role of Georgia is a foothold.
    1. Quiet
      Quiet 12 July 2013 23: 49 New
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      that is, we will not protect.

      And no one will defend her because she nafig nobody needs except the Turks who will cut them all. And "RUSSIANS !!! RUSSIANS, SAVE" will start squealing again !!!!!
  11. Geokingxnumx
    Geokingxnumx 11 July 2013 10: 38 New
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    Quote: Dmitry 2246
    Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili caused a small international scandal. He stated that the secret codes of Hermes 450 unmanned aircraft purchased by Georgia from Israel shortly before the war in August 2008 were transferred by the Israelis to Russia.

    Well, what's the scandal? Wikilix wrote about it 2 years ago and 2 years ago Saakashvili came out and said that) info misinformation)
    1. Airman
      Airman 11 July 2013 13: 44 New
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      Quote: Dmitry 2246
      Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili caused a small international scandal. He stated that the secret codes of Hermes 450 unmanned aircraft purchased by Georgia from Israel shortly before the war in August 2008 were transferred by the Israelis to Russia.


      In response to this "goodwill" gesture, the Russian side allegedly handed over to Israel the secret codes of the Iranian air defense systems BUK. Everything is interconnected.
  12. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 11 July 2013 10: 55 New
    +6
    Leave Georgia to the Americans, the Georgians have found a new owner and will run after it wagging their tail and carrying out different commands. In Georgia, Russia has no interests, you just need to ensure that the legs of the Georgian killer soldiers are not in Abkhazia and South Ossetia. I like it when they are shot in Afghanistan. I wish the Afghan people good luck in the fight against the rotten NATO occupiers and their henchmen from the republics of the former USSR.
  13. ed65b
    ed65b 11 July 2013 11: 05 New
    +1
    Honestly, it makes no difference to me which track will be in Georgia. At least 5 meters. In NATO, a long history is almost impossible. They want to carry goods from Turkey to Baku, let Azerbaijan also carry a cut chunk. I am more concerned about our problems than Nikozlovich and Aliyev.
  14. dc120mm
    dc120mm 11 July 2013 11: 22 New
    +9
    Personally, I am against NATO and the United States but no one is asking me anything laughing

    I think the authorities will come to their senses and change course.
    1. Black
      Black 11 July 2013 19: 20 New
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      Quote: dc120mm
      Personally, I am against NATO and the United States but no one asks me for nothing laughing


      Uh, genatsvale !!! How much do we have in common! We have the same he..rn..i. Few listen too.
  15. Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 11 July 2013 11: 45 New
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    Quote: GEOKING95
    Quote: soldat1945
    Judging by the interview, the minister is very adequate, but it’s a pity that he’s still going to NATO, we’ll wake Georgia to consider it as a probable opponent, but it’s a pity!

    Well, yes) if everything was the other way around when we would not have conflicts. In NATO we would not be
    -
    -Richard the Lionheart unceremoniously burst into Queen Tamar’s apartment, clanging armor and dragging his two-handed sword on the parquet
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 11 July 2013 12: 33 New
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      Quote: 20 kopeek
      Richard the Lionheart unceremoniously burst into Queen Tamar’s apartment, clanging armor and dragging his two-handed sword on the parquet



      and what happened then ... in the most interesting place .... winked go on ... you were in the know .... then laughing
    2. Quiet
      Quiet 13 July 2013 00: 06 New
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      Richard the Lionheart unceremoniously burst into the apartment to Queen Tamar, clanking

      ... with claws on his feet and tearing off the tiles on the floor, having previously thrown off the holey boots in the outhouse where he went after he cried out a barrel of beer ..... wassat drinks bully lol
  16. knn54
    knn54 11 July 2013 13: 28 New
    +3
    1. Judging by the phrase “As a result, in Georgia we want to create a modern armed forces that will meet all NATO standards” of the Minister of Defense and statements by Ivanishvili Georgia DREAMS to join NATO.
    2. Russia will not refuse to recognize Abkhazia and South Ossetia, just as NO Georgian president will ever recognize these republics.
    What relations between the Russian Federation and Georgia can be after that?
  17. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 11 July 2013 13: 29 New
    +8
    Everything will be as always. We don’t need Georgia for nothing, and we don’t need it for a fee. But small countries can exist only under the protectorate of large ones. Georgia decided it was warmer under the SGA. So there will be nothing new as soon as the SGA deals with it, as with all its other allies (wipes it and throws it in the trash), we will immediately need Georgia. The mentality-mentality, generation-machenia ... crawl and begin to wallow at the feet, right on the old rut, scraped by previous passages ...
    1. Black
      Black 11 July 2013 19: 33 New
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      Quote: Mikhail3
      We don’t need Georgia for nothing, and we don’t need it for a fee.


      I would like to notice.
      The majority of the site advocates for great Russia, for a strong, sovereign, independent. And how do you, dear comrades, think this without normal (and, ideally, friendly, partnership) relations with your neighbors, even more so with those of them whom you lived for centuries and in the 70s were called SOVIET PEOPLE.
      Pshek-enemies, Baltic-enemies, Ukrainians (after all, we call the fraternal people !!) - traitors, Azerbaijanis dare to lead their line (how can you! ??) from the Central Asian peoples we fence off the thorny fence, we are also less and less friendly with the Mongols, it’s good only in the north - there are no one to argue with anyone — white bears.

      Probably we have something to change, right? Or Russia, like Caesar’s wife?

      We won’t find a common language with our neighbors; others will find something to talk about with them, other things.
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 11 July 2013 22: 35 New
        +2
        Quote: Chen
        Probably we have something to change, right? Or Russia, like Caesar’s wife?

        We won’t find a common language with our neighbors; others will find something to talk about with them, other things.

        What to change in relation to Azerbaijan. To the Baltic states, Poland. (For which the one-Russia line owes them like land to the collective farm according to the grave of life.) Please highlight this thesis in more detail. The only thing you really really need to find a common language with is Ukraine, no matter what.
      2. Misantrop
        Misantrop 12 July 2013 00: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: Chen
        Pshek-enemies, Baltic-enemies, Ukrainians (after all, we call the fraternal people !!) - traitors, Azerbaijanis dare to lead their line (how can you! ??) from the Central Asian peoples we fence off the thorny fence, we are also less and less friendly with the Mongols, it’s good only in the north - there are no one to argue with anyone — white bears.
        The Serbs at one time felt sorry for the unfortunate refugees of the Albanians, they considered them friends. And they thanked them with dignity for this ...
    2. Mercenary
      Mercenary 11 July 2013 19: 43 New
      +1
      I agree forever that we, as compassionate, collect everything, we regret laundering, and how they are inspired to sit on their heads. Turks have already slaughtered Georgians, interceded, and now they are almost NANIS, that is, NATO.
  18. Black
    Black 11 July 2013 19: 39 New
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    Quote: Mikhail3
    crawl and begin to roll in the legs

    The Poles, crawled, the Finns, lying around in their legs?
  19. Revolver
    Revolver 11 July 2013 21: 13 New
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    And what, Mishiko finished eating all his ties? Starved poor, now decided to get ties in Russia. wassat
  20. vitek1233
    vitek1233 12 July 2013 06: 31 New
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    Quote: Mikhail3
    Everything will be as always. We don’t need Georgia for nothing, and we don’t need it for a fee. But small countries can exist only under the protectorate of large ones. Georgia decided it was warmer under the SGA. So there will be nothing new as soon as the SGA deals with it, as with all its other allies (wipes it and throws it in the trash), we will immediately need Georgia. The mentality-mentality, generation-machenia ... crawl and begin to wallow at the feet, right on the old rut, scraped by previous passages ...

    Will they understand?
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 12 July 2013 18: 35 New
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      vitek1233 RU Today, 06:31

      Quote: Mikhail3
      Everything will be as always. We don’t need Georgia for nothing, and we don’t need it for a fee. But small countries can exist only under the protectorate of large ones. Georgia decided it was warmer under the SGA. So there will be nothing new as soon as the SGA deals with it, as with all its other allies (wipes it and throws it in the trash), we will immediately need Georgia. The mentality-mentality, generation-machenia ... crawl and begin to wallow at the feet, right on the old rut, scraped by previous passages ...

      Will they understand?


      ... stupid you Vitek with Michael together ...
      ... in geopolitics in! knock Knock...
      all the heaps must be collected - the former Soviet and to teach them to love their homeland ... if necessary, and since Stalin did it ...

      ... and so they pissed away the Arabs, the Warsaw Pact pissed away ... now we are losing the former Soviet and with whom we will stay ... it will not crawl, it will not be easier for anyone ... it is necessary to think - the head is not only to " eat"...
  21. Lukich
    Lukich 12 July 2013 18: 26 New
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    ... all this garbage - a rut, a rut - better tell me what to do with the Georgians? ...