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Egypt on the way to a Syrian civil war

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Egypt on the way to a Syrian civil war

Egypt on the verge of a third revolution. As was to be expected, a military coup that entailed the overthrow of the president, a supporter of the country's development along the Islamic path, Mohammed Mursi, did not ensure stability in Egypt and a peaceful transition to power. The Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamist organizations refused to recognize the removal of the legitimately elected president. They are determined to return to him the place of "Pharaoh". Their perseverance and determination, which is stronger than the eternal wavering of supporters of the liberal, pro-Western path, leave the country no chance for a bloodless way out of the crisis. In fact, the blood has already been shed, there are killed, hundreds of wounded. Egypt may well repeat the fate of Syria, where there is a bloody rebellion.


The country is split in half. The clashes of supporters and opponents of Mursi, or rather it is a question of choosing the future of Egypt, are becoming increasingly tough. And now the army will no longer be able to stand aside, over the conflict. She has already linked herself with the opponents of the Islamists, and in the event of a defeat of the secular development party of the country, a serious sweep of the army is inevitable.

It should be noted that in the events of the Egyptian revolution, the army behaves like a real selling girl. This is not surprising if we consider that, in fact, the Egyptian generals are not militant, they are a handful of bourgeois, accustomed to the sweet life, who have received good profits in recent decades and are not willing to abandon the amenities of the Western way of life. When Mubarak was overthrown, the military was calm and did not support the president, in which they were part of the elite of Egypt and received good dividends from it. Although it was logical to fight for such a president. Why did the military give Mubarak? The answer is simple. The hosts ordered. The Egyptian elite, like many elites of other countries in the Middle East region, is flesh and blood of the British Empire. The entire region was under the tight control of the British crown, especially Egypt, Sudan and the Arab monarchies. In the future, some of these links went under the wing of the United States. A significant part of the Arab political elites is part of the Anglo-Saxon project, they are located on one of their middle steps ("overseers") of the global hierarchy of the New World Order, which is being built by the masters of the Western world. And the masters of the West can easily sacrifice them, make “scapegoats”.

The army surrendered Hosni Mubarak, receiving peace of mind in return - several high-ranking officers were dismissed, but no mass stripping, no courts, repressions, redistribution of sources of income. It was a payment for the betrayal of the legitimate president. It is quite obvious that there is no need to say that the “rebellious people”, who wanted to “change”, first overthrew Mubarak, then Mursi. If Mubarak was needed at the head of Egypt, the military would simply have spread tanks several protesters in Tahrir Square, machine guns walked through the crowd. On this "revolution" would end. Egyptian pro-Western "plankton", accustomed to gatherings on social networks and the "fight" on the Internet, in principle, can not resist the state machine. Here we need completely different people who have completed training camps in Pakistan, participants in the battles in Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. But the Islamists have such people, as they have an idea, an ideology. Therefore, now in Egypt, the conflict goes to a completely different level, the conflict is escalating. At the same time, Mursi does not need to draw attention, he is a pawn, an expendable material that played its role well.

By overthrowing Mubarak, the West took the first step towards the destruction of present-day Egypt. Then the Egyptian Islamists received significant financial injections, support from experienced personnel, informational assistance, mainly from Qatar and Saudi Arabia, and legally placed their president at the head of the country. When Mursi, with all the shortcomings of the regime, there was some stability. I must say that all the claims against Mursi, that he did not make life in the country a “fairy tale”, are clearly biased. He ruled the country for just a year, and Egypt faces such serious problems that it takes decades of hard, methodical work to solve them. Among the most severe: 1) water problem - in the near future a conflict over the Nile water is possible; 2) socio-economic crisis, the country is on the verge of collapse, leading rating agencies give half a year before the disaster. Soon there will simply be nothing to feed the population. Egypt buys up to half food. And the money of the Arab monarchs and the IMF cannot solve this problem, they only delay the day of the disaster; 3) the problem of Sinai, which turns into a nest for terrorists and can be a cause for conflict with Israel; 4) rapid population growth, despite the fact that most of the population lives in a narrow strip along the Nile. Cairo is time to think about birth control programs. And this is not only the problem of Egypt - the waves of migrants from Africa and Asia will soon force Europe to take radical decisions, or capitulate and recognize the death of European civilization (Russia must take the same decision).

Stability in Egypt is not needed by the West, so the secular part of society was set on Islamists. But the Egyptian liberals themselves do not represent power. They have neither such drive, nor perseverance, nor willingness to die for their ideas, like the Islamists. Therefore, the order to bring down Mursi gave the army. And the Egyptian army “woke up” - it began to put obviously not feasible ultimatums to the president, to carry out pre-emptive arrests of Muslim leaders, presidential advisers, and Mursi himself was eventually overthrown. It got to use weapons against supporters of the legitimate president. As a result, what we see is that the Egyptian army “was frightened” to defend one legitimate president (Mubarak), but bravely rushed to overthrow another lawfully elected president (Mursi). No wonder that Russian President V. Putin during his visit to Kazakhstan noted that “Syria is already engulfed in civil war, sadly enough, and Egypt is moving in the same direction. I would like the Egyptian people to avoid this fate. ”

How did the West react to overthrowing the legitimate president? Actually acknowledged. The UN, the United States and other world powers did not recognize the overthrow of M. Mursi by a military coup. Barack Obama refrained from condemning the actions of the Egyptian military and called for the early restoration of "democracy" in the country. Washington continues to fund Egypt. The European Union also called for a quick return of the democratic process, but did not condemn the military. Currently, Mursi is under arrest, the military temporarily suspended the constitution and entrusted Adly Mansur, head of the country's Constitutional Court, to perform the duties of the head of state. Calls for “democracy” are another blow to Egypt. Now the army is in a difficult position. It is impossible to press Islamists violently, and this is the only way to get Egypt back on the path of secular development. In particular, some Muslim leaders were arrested and then released (there are no crimes for them). This Islamists only teased. In such a situation, the Egyptian generals are doomed to defeat.

Iran in this situation was honest. On July 7, a spokesman for the Iranian Foreign Ministry, Abbas Arakchi, said that the removal of the Egyptian president was a wrong decision. The representative of Iran said: "Supporters of M. Mursi should not give up their desire to return him to power, because the issue of the presidency should not be decided on the street." He added that the “hot summer and cold winter” could follow the Arab spring. Earlier, Deputy Foreign Minister Hossein Amir Abdolyahyan expressed hope that the Egyptian army will promote national reconciliation and respect the will of its people, given that "Mohammed Mursi is the president elected by popular vote." Did not support the military coup and the leader of Turkey. R. Erdogan said that he couldn’t build with the power of democracy and accused the West of double standards.

The strategy of the West to turn the region into a sea of ​​fire is justified. The Islamists, having recovered from the first shock of arrest and apparent defeat, are beginning to organize resistance. The hopes of the liberals and the military that the Islamists would accept a coup did not materialize. More sober and gloomy calculations of analysts begin to come true. Now the military have registered themselves as enemies of the Islamic revolution, and they will not be spared. It should be noted that among the junior commanders and ordinary soldiers there are many supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood. Thus, Western strategists solve another problem - the army has ceased to be a stronghold of the stability of Egypt, itself launching chaos - inferno into the country.

The Muslim Brotherhood announced the mobilization of hundreds of thousands of their supporters and do not recognize the change of power. The National Coalition for the Rule of Law, established by them, which unites parties and organizations of Islamic persuasion, called for the commencement of national protests. This appeal was preceded by a large rally of supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood in Cairo, where the leader of Muslims, Mohammed Badia, spoke. He stated that Mursi is their president and the president of all Egyptians. "We are his soldiers and will defend him at the cost of our lives." He demanded the release and return of Mursi power. The crowd chanted: "The people need God's law, Islamic, whether the army likes it or not." The crowd tried to take the National Guard headquarters by storm. In response, the soldiers used tear gas and opened fire to kill. Several people died, dozens of wounded. In recent days, the death toll has already exceeded three dozen, and the injured have reached 1,4 thousand. The most severe confrontation is in Alexandria. A representative of the Muslim Brotherhood movement Murad Ali said that in a clash on Monday night at the complex of the Republican Guard barracks in Cairo, the military shot 34 people (later the numbers rose to about 50 dead).

Army representatives said that a "group of terrorists" had arranged the shooting outside the Republican Guard building. And the military only repelled the attack, during which several soldiers were injured. The representative of the Ministry of Interior Abdel Latyf promised to do everything possible to ensure the state and the people. According to him, to the elements aimed at destabilizing the situation will be taken "the most stringent measures within the law."

Gradually, the struggle turns into a course of power confrontation. In the north of the Sinai Peninsula in the city of Al-Arish, militants exchanged fire with the military for several hours trying to seize the airport and air force base. Before that, a large protest was held in the city. Its participants said: "From today, no peace!". The military promised to start a war on terror in Sinai. The Sinai Peninsula could be the first hotbed of the Egyptian civil war.

Egyptian Islamists are a formidable opponent. They have fighters with combat experience, an established network of financing, arms supplies and the transfer of militants to a large part of North Africa and the Middle East. The Muslim Brotherhood has a strong social base, including a significant part of the rural population. There are significant stocks of weapons, especially in the Sinai, desert and mountainous territory. Supporters of the ousted president have already decided to create a new militant organization, Sinai should become one of its main footholds.

Why does the West need chaos in Egypt?

Egypt is definitely being swayed: the secular regime of Mubarak was overthrown - the temporary power of the military - the coming to power of the Islamists - protests, the military coup - the temporary power. Further, with the support of the military, they will choose supporters of the secular course of the country. However, they will not be able to solve the problems of the country - they have no constructive program. “Democratization” of Egypt and the destruction of the Mubarak dictatorship seriously aggravated the socio-economic problems, increased public debt, reset state reserves. The population, seeking salvation from the impending collapse and famine, will support the Islamists. The Islamists will tighten their demands and again take power, but by force. In the process, the country will wash blood.

Chaos expands with every revolution and upheaval. Egypt is more likely to become another inferno zone, like Afghanistan and Kosovo. Chaos will become the prologue of the creation of the “Great Caliphate”. It is obvious that the candidature (or candidates) of the "Muslim Hitler" is already being prepared. A moment will come and a charismatic leader will “appear” who will be supported by the majority of people who are tired of blood and upheavals. I promise them peace and order. Now there is a "clearing the field." The war is on the threshold of Russia and Europe. The masters of the western project need a world war, and Muslims should become its official arsonists.
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  1. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 9 July 2013 07: 49 New
    +4
    What now to call power in EGYPT - MODE, DICTATURE, TEMPORARY GOVERNMENT.
    In general, we expect a good mess there - all conditions for the WAR are created.
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 9 July 2013 10: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: Lech from ZATULINKI
      What now to call power in EGYPT - MODE, DICTATURE, TEMPORARY GOVERNMENT.
      In general, we expect a good mess there - all conditions for the WAR are created.


      Muslim Hitler, or rather, those who meet him laughing

      No just do it very clearly laughing
    2. cdrt
      cdrt 9 July 2013 10: 28 New
      +6
      The last paragraph of the article can be correctly characterized as clickism (i.e., a form of mental illness).
      The history of Muslim countries shows that they can be in a state of chaos for centuries. Now the whole Middle East is actually turning into US allies and chaos. In it, in fact, most of the Arab passion will burn.
      1. vel77
        vel77 9 July 2013 11: 45 New
        +3
        thus minke whales burn debts ...
        1. mnn_13
          mnn_13 10 July 2013 15: 12 New
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          Do not forget about the profit of military intentional complexes ...
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    3. silver_roman
      silver_roman 9 July 2013 11: 44 New
      +4
      In general, we expect a good mess there

      I'm afraid that "THERE" will not end there. At least, it seems to me that this will not suit the Anglo-Saxons, the Illuminati and other wickedness. Interestingly, the day will come when all their heads stumble upon a peak ???
      The world burns on fire at the whim and insidious plans of a bunch of scum !!!
      and the World War: if the Second World War was more or less homogeneous, when one people with its territory fought to the death with others, now Muslims are everywhere and it will be just a meat grinder ... they don’t care ...
      Now almost any country (by the way, in this respect of Japan) contains in its close ethnic group tens of percent of Muslims and immigrants from the Middle East or the Arab world as a whole. So there will be no flanks and directions anymore, there will be just a quick fire in all directions. Hope is not special services, a pragmatic calculation of our leaders and a lucky chance .. sometimes he decides everything!
    4. Nevsky
      Nevsky 9 July 2013 11: 58 New
      +9
      it’s clearly stated here:

      1. mnn_13
        mnn_13 10 July 2013 16: 06 New
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        If Russian actions do not become anticipatory, and not just being passive answers on more active initiative, everything will end in defeat.
    5. aksakal
      aksakal 10 July 2013 23: 09 New
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      Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
      In general, we expect a good mess there - all conditions for the WAR are created.

      - alas, it has begun. Let's hope that we will not be scorched. For this, some localization measures need to be taken
  2. Igor39
    Igor39 9 July 2013 07: 53 New
    +6
    "Muslims must become its official arsonists" Not Muslims, but Islamists and religious extremists sponsored by Qatar and Saudis.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 9 July 2013 08: 04 New
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      I do not agree with the article and the comparison with Syria even more so!
      The fact is that in Egypt the army is more homogeneous and I am sure that such a massive desertion of officers and soldiers is impossible as it was in Syria in these circumstances!
      I do not agree that the army during the revolution acted like a prostitute !!
      You do not live in Egypt and do not feel how the Egyptians were sick of their Chubais, Serdyukovs close to power !!
      And the army acted cleverly without going after corrupt officials and without tarnishing its uniform!
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 9 July 2013 09: 48 New
        +3
        Quote: Yarbay
        I do not agree with the article and the comparison with Syria even more so!

        Good morning Alibek! You, as always, are emotional!))) However, I ask you to recall the events in Iraq, Libya, Syria. Initially, nothing foreshadowed such a development of events, as happened in reality.
        But I agree with you that if the Egyptian army acts as a whole, the scenario will not work. Although there are a lot of options! The revolutionary situation in the country has been going on for about two years now, and the people's "roof" is starting to go.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 9 July 2013 10: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: IRBIS
          You, as always, are emotional!)))

          No, if you mean the abundance of exclamation marks, then when I learned to write on a computer I had to write in different languages, and there the places of commas and dots often change on the keyboard, depending on the alphabet, and the exclamation mark in those languages ​​is the same everyone’s place))))) That’s the habit and remained!)))
          Although I am really a very emotional person!
          Quote: IRBIS
          However, I ask you to recall the events in Iraq, Libya, Syria.

          Let's remember, the army of Iraq was defeated by amers and demoralized and the multiconfessional population can be pushed together by foreheads, that is, it is not suitable for an example!
          Gaddafi himself destroyed the Libyan army, believing that the army was useless and that civilian committees, in which case it would be better to protect him and the country!
          In Syria, there was a massive desertion in the army, from which the army was only just moving away and it was connected with the fact that the population and, naturally, the Syrian army was multi-confessional!
          The Egyptian army does not have these problems!
          To a large extent, the Egyptian army, like the Pakistani, was created on the example of the Turkish one, or rather they tried to introduce the spirit into the army and make it an independent body!
          Quote: IRBIS
          But I agree with you that if the Egyptian army acts as a whole, the scenario will not work

          Fighting with scumbags is possible, but they have no chance against the army!
          Moreover, the army is supported by both the amers and the rich Pinocchio of the Persian Gulf!
          Remember, before the outbreak of active hostilities in Syria, all the embassies of Western countries left Syria in protest, that is, they made it clear to Assad that until he leaves they will not talk to him!
      2. mnn_13
        mnn_13 10 July 2013 15: 26 New
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        I agree with you. The difference between Egypt and Syria is big. And so far, what is happening in Syria is primarily the result of external intervention. In Egypt, it will be a real civil war.
    2. Alexander-12
      Alexander-12 10 July 2013 10: 16 New
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      Very true. All Muslims must not be regarded as Islamic extremists!
    3. mnn_13
      mnn_13 10 July 2013 15: 22 New
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      I do not agree with both points of view. Islamists are only puppets who pay the blood of their stupidity. Arsonists are those who ruled the world and hope that the war will continue to rule the ego. They are in Paris, Washington, London, probably in Moscow, too, such est. Islamists only brainless cannon fodder ...
  3. krasin
    krasin 9 July 2013 07: 57 New
    +5
    West brewed porridge. When everything settles down, only God knows!
    1. Ga3prom
      Ga3prom 10 July 2013 13: 19 New
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      if it is not Saudi and Qatar
  4. atalef
    atalef 9 July 2013 08: 01 New
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    An article from sources, as well as the conclusions of the O. Haos in Egypt, does not want anyone. Neither Qatar - which invested more than 13 billion there, nor the West - Mursi was quite predictable, nor the States - they surrendered Mubarak, supporting Mursi - deciding that it would be possible to agree with the Muslim Brothers. It goes without saying that Turkey - which sees in Egypt the strengthening of the Axis of Islamic Democracy, Turkey (or rather Erdogan) is generally disappointed the most - because thought that Egypt was a confirmation of his theory of Islamic democratic power. The mess in Egypt was not needed by anyone whose only one was not taken into account - these were the Egyptians themselves, whom the Muslim brotherhood’s authority had grown tired of over the year. Mursi began to change the constitution in the direction of Sharia, trampled on the rights of the Copts, changed the top of the army, 3000 judges and generally forgot a little that Egypt is not Afghanistan - the people are more civilized there, and he (Mursi) has lost all restrictions in his Islamic fervor. Having forbidden everything - from belly dancing and discos, to music and generally entertainment (Sharma Sheikh and the Sinai resorts are no example), he did not give anything in return. Youth unemployment 77%, poverty. lack of prospects. He was thrown off by the not satisfied secular part of Egypt, of course, with the support of the Army. The army (or rather its officers) is not much progressive that exists in Egypt and they perfectly understand the consequences of the Islamization of the country. The fall of the Muslim brothers is good for the world, it will cool hotheads in many countries such as Turkey, Jordan, Tunisia. Algeria) where the Islamists still dream of seizing power.
    But will there be a civil war with Egypt, I think not. Egypt is not ethnically divided, but Muslim brothers cannot get used to underground (they were there for 40 years) There will be clashes in the Sinai (there are strong Islamic Bedouins), the South of Egypt, but these will be isolated cases and will not lead to a civil war.
    1. a52333
      a52333 9 July 2013 09: 24 New
      +4
      In this regard, concern is raised about the escalating conflict along the entire North African coast and the Middle East. Hotbeds of instability (Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Jordan) have surrounded Israel practically along the perimeter. Even under the optimistic scenario (Assad's victory in Syria and gradual stabilization in Egypt), these conflicts will smolder for another two or three years. + The region will be filled with weapons from Libya. It’s hard to believe that this will end normally. This hotbed of instability will simmer for years to come. And our overseas "partners", no doubt, will rock the region further. Next in line are Iran vs Azerbaijan, Azerbaijan vs Armenia and possibly Turkey vs Kurdistan. In general, the old lady Europe + Israel + Russia is ahead of "merry".
    2. uhu189
      uhu189 9 July 2013 17: 15 New
      0
      I'd love to believe that you are right. No one would be better off if Egypt repeats the fate of Syria. But if the stars are lit, then someone needs it. I have long ceased to believe in random events especially occurring on such a scale
      1. mnn_13
        mnn_13 10 July 2013 15: 36 New
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        I fully agree with you - there is nothing accidental here in Egypt. But I'm interested in something else - whether Mursi is fully consciously involved in this scenario of the West for the destruction of Egypt (in such a case, he is not an Islamist, but a traitor to his country of a higher rank, as Gorbachev probably was), or he was "calculated" by puppeteers and put there, and he, in the role of an idealist fool, does everything he needs?
        The first version seems more likely to me, but the second is also quite real.
    3. alicante11
      alicante11 10 July 2013 07: 10 New
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      I am afraid to cast a shadow on a clear day. I would agree with your conclusions in the event that you and the amers would put pressure on this "revolution". But the amers practically recognized it. Which means that it is profitable for them, and given the fact that Egypt has long and completely lay under the USA, it means that they got the benefit for a reason. Well, seriously, you don’t think that amers will care about some Egyptian people.
      And the more I see revolutions and "revolutions", the more I see that they do not arise by themselves. There may be a revolutionary situation in the country, as in Russia at the end of the 90s, but there may not be a revolution, because nobody needs it, except the people, and they just don't ask him. And if the people try to throw something out, then the authorities always have in their store a couple of OMON battalions or something replacing it (at worst, the tanks will go down). So there is no need to hang democratic noodles on our ears. Egypt is set on fire on purpose. Of course, all the shoals of Mursi are in place. But not the fact that he did not make them under the dictation of the owners, as in his time EBE.
    4. Alexander-12
      Alexander-12 10 July 2013 13: 43 New
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      With a shudder, I think about the fate of ...
  5. dojjdik
    dojjdik 9 July 2013 08: 16 New
    0
    the American Jewish diaspora did not need these Egyptians - because the Gaddafi government (read the destruction of the oil and gas state structure of Libya) was overthrown by bandits; now the Arabs of Egypt have become simply "" able to create any "carnival show" on the square in Cairo; and all sorts of "Muslim brothers", "Mursi" and other nonsense, are invented to powder the brains of our brother; and do not forget that the Egyptian army is funded by the Americans
    1. Xnumx kopeek
      Xnumx kopeek 9 July 2013 09: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: dojjdik
      the American Jewish diaspora did not need these Egyptians - because the Gaddafi government (read the destruction of the oil and gas state structure of Libya) was overthrown by bandits; now the Arabs of Egypt have become simply "" able to create any "carnival show" on the square in Cairo; and all sorts of "Muslim brothers", "Mursi" and other nonsense, are invented to powder the brains of our brother; and do not forget that the Egyptian army is funded by the Americans

      the chief Persian believes that the USA and Israel are behind this all .- / Egypt. putsch / - Viidimo, the tandem wants E. to become "secular", etc. - and the ultimate goal, of course, is Syria. / build your foothold in E. / And further, everywhere. / Iran, Russia, Arctic, Moon, Mars, etc. /
    2. cdrt
      cdrt 9 July 2013 10: 31 New
      0
      Ek in your head everything spun wink
  6. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 9 July 2013 08: 19 New
    +3
    As Einstein said: “I don't know what they will fight in the third world war, but in the fourth world war they will fight with stones and clubs” - his words come true.
  7. morpogr
    morpogr 9 July 2013 08: 20 New
    +1
    The revolution is getting closer to its sponsors of Qatar and Arabia, because the indigenous population is in the minority, and most of them are migrant workers from the same Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Syria, oh, no matter how this fifth column wakes up. The fire will be very strong.
    1. atalef
      atalef 9 July 2013 08: 38 New
      +6
      Quote: morpogr
      Revolutions are getting closer to their sponsors of Qatar and Arabia, because the indigenous population there is in the minority

      You absolutely do not understand the realities of BV, Qatar was supported by Mursi (more precisely, the old ruler, his son who replaced him (he was 33 years old) clearly supported the Egyptian Army), S. Arabia was initially against Mursi (here they had interests with Qatar (and therefore didn’t give Mursi not a penny).
      Neither the majority of migrant workers in S. Arabia are either Dubai for you. In Qatar, the same. And indeed, all these Gaster from Qatar to Bahrain so value their position and so do not want to return to their countries of birth that they will sit quieter than water below the grass. The fact of the announcement of Hezbollah ter. the organization of BV by the Arab countries - entailed the eviction (or rather, sending them home) of the Lebanese Gaster who supported them (only really supporting them, not everyone), it was necessary to see how they clung and disengaged from Hezbollah. only. so as not to return home. So that grazh.voyny supported or organized by Gaster - a fantasy.
    2. a52333
      a52333 9 July 2013 09: 26 New
      +3
      Well, here you can gloat: for what they fought, they will receive it at that place.
      1. mnn_13
        mnn_13 10 July 2013 15: 41 New
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        There is no place for gloating. At this stage, the actions of the West are systematically ahead of the actions of Russia and their allies. This is bad.
  8. Professor
    Professor 9 July 2013 09: 06 New
    +7
    Muslim Brotherhood

    Correctly they are called "Muslim Brotherhood" الإخوان المسلمون

    This is not surprising when you consider that, in fact, the Egyptian generals are not militant, they are a handful of bourgeois who are accustomed to a sweet life, who have received good profit in recent decades and who do not want to give up the pleasures of the Western way of life.

    In which countries is the military general? Take the trouble to list.

    The Egyptian elite, like many elites from other countries in the Middle East region, is flesh from the flesh of the British Empire.

    Yeah, tell us how this elite kicked the British Empire out of the Suez Canal.

    It is quite obvious that it is not necessary to say that the “rebellious people”, who wanted the “change”, first overthrew Mubarak, then Mursi.

    Absolutely obvious? That is absolutely clear? Well, it’s clear that the reason behind the world is behind the scenes and conspiracy theories, but the fact that people are tired of poverty, corruption and hopelessness are trifles, and the obscurantism of the new religious government is generally drummed ...

    I do not read this article further. negative
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 9 July 2013 10: 34 New
      0
      the fact that people are tired of poverty, corruption and hopelessness are trifles, and obscurantism of the new religious government is generally a drum for everyone

      This is the machinations of the world behind the scenes wink wink wink
      1. Professor
        Professor 9 July 2013 11: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: cdrt
        This is the machinations of the world behind the scenes

        It is necessary to work as in Germany, and not to play backgammon, then they will live as in Germany.

        PS
        A remarkable photo from Egypt.
  9. cumastra1
    cumastra1 9 July 2013 09: 25 New
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    And what part of our political elite no longer belongs to Russia, which means that in the event of a mess it will turn out to be the "fifth column"? Brzezinski - so he said, they say "your elite keeps all their savings in the west, in the western currency, owns real estate there, has dual citizenship. We still need to see if it is your elite, or already ours." I am not quoting literally, but the meaning is this.
    So our I.O. KGB, the NKVD and other specialists should take note of them. And create several jobs for them, somewhere in the Magadan area.
  10. omsbon
    omsbon 9 July 2013 09: 49 New
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    waves of migrants from Africa and Asia will soon force Europe to take radical decisions, or capitulate and acknowledge the death of European civilization (Russia must make a similar decision).

    Russia does not sign surrender so that a decision will have to be made!
    1. Gato
      Gato 9 July 2013 11: 08 New
      +2
      Judging by the number of Gaster - the decision had to be made yesterday.
    2. mirag2
      mirag2 9 July 2013 18: 44 New
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      By the way, let me say that the waves of emigrants from the Muslim world to Europe are beneficial for Israel because they will put Europe in a state of confrontation with Muslims, reducing the degree of tension between Muslims and Israel.
    3. mirag2
      mirag2 9 July 2013 18: 46 New
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      By the way, let me say that the waves of emigrants from the Muslim world to Europe are beneficial for Israel because they will put Europe in a state of confrontation with Muslims, reducing the degree of tension between Muslims and Israel.
  11. Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 9 July 2013 10: 15 New
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    Quote: Scandinavian
    As Einstein said: “I don't know what they will fight in the third world war, but in the fourth world war they will fight with stones and clubs” - his words come true.
    -
    - .. and added: "atomic stones and clubs" ... after a pause, Einstein added - "And in 4-laser ..."
  12. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 9 July 2013 10: 36 New
    +2
    Accidents are interesting things. Let's look at the map of the Arab world. It is now easier to name countries where there are no open conflicts than those where they exist. Only the Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and .. All? Vaughn in Uzbekistan issued some insane article with territorial claims against all former socialist republics, including, of course, Russia. Is it accidental? No, of course, provocative nonsense is not "accidentally" published. Now let's see who was not affected by all these conflicts, although this is very strange? Israel. Now let's think about whom these conflicts will not affect at all, but on the contrary? USA. And who will get more headaches? Russia. Do you still believe in chance? For me personally, it is OBVIOUS that the excessive human resources accumulated by the Arab world will be channeled to fuel these conflicts. As the saying goes, "with little blood on a foreign land."
  13. papss
    papss 9 July 2013 10: 40 New
    +3
    I like the reaction of our liberal press ... When they kicked off Mubarak, they all screamed in one mouth ... democracy, freedom ... But what now ... they got water in their mouths ... Is it because
    How did the West react to the overthrow of the legitimate president? Actually recognized. The UN, the USA and other world powers did not recognize the overthrow of M. Mursi as a military coup.

    It turns out interesting, the actual coup, with all the facts on the person who overthrew the legitimate authority, recognized by the whole world - is not such ... Original ... It is clear where the customers are, and how and who drives our puppeteers ...
    So Syria is not a legitimate authority, but the military treacherous junta of Egypt is a legitimate one ...
    Well, about the Egyptian army ... a corrupt army ...
    Hosni Mubarak army surrendered, receiving peace in return
    , to put it mildly ... The army remained aloof during the overthrow of one - Mubarak, and so warlike with the other - Mursi ...
    Egypt, as a country, has completely lost its independence, both political and economic ...
  14. individual
    individual 9 July 2013 11: 21 New
    0
    The article is controversial.
    It is believed that the "bearded brothers" were defeated by the ideology of political Islam. A civil war begins in Egypt, and Mursi's supporters will come back to haunt the help and support of the bandits in Syria.
    Their Allah made a warning to Turkey and Egypt, let's hope for a lead from above for Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
    Syria must solve its internal problems on its own, without Western incitement of Arabs to Arabs and Turks who are fishing in troubled waters.
    1. Ga3prom
      Ga3prom 10 July 2013 13: 18 New
      0
      but the war will distract from Syria
  15. pensioner
    pensioner 9 July 2013 11: 21 New
    +1
    Oh, the Westerners will wring the Suez Canal together with the amers from the Egyptians, I feel ...
    Under the pretext of ensuring the safety of navigation, they will take "protection", and give back - they will forget ... And the Egyptians will have no time to rock the boat. Internal disassembly will be carried away ...
    1. igor67
      igor67 9 July 2013 12: 42 New
      0
      Quote: retired
      Oh, the Westerners will wring the Suez Canal together with the amers from the Egyptians, I feel ...
      Under the pretext of ensuring the safety of navigation, they will take "protection", and give back - they will forget ... And the Egyptians will have no time to rock the boat. Internal disassembly will be carried away ...

      They won’t take it away. Already helping the Egyptian military: Israel saves the Egyptian army

      Israel decided to change the policy of “non-interference” in the affairs of neighboring states, in which clashes between the ruling forces and the opposition take place.

      If, regarding Syria and Egypt, during the overthrow of President Mubarak, the leaders of the Jewish state preferred not to give any assessments, now they have changed their line.

      One of the first to speak on this issue was Israeli Minister of Internal Security Yitzhak Aranovich. He stated that the Israeli structures have normal relations with the security forces of Egypt, and therefore with its armed forces, which now rule the country. This was a call not to demonize the country's military pyramids and confirmation that they can be dealt with.

      Then, according to Israeli media reports, the Israeli government asked Washington not to freeze the $ 1.3 billion in cash assistance that the United States should have allocated this year to the Egyptian army.

      This option, as a "democratizer", began to be discussed immediately after the Egyptian military removed from power and arrested President Mohammed Morsi. "If what happened in Egypt is called a military coup, then, according to the law, the United States will not be able to continue to provide military assistance to this country," said Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff.
      1. piterkras
        piterkras 9 July 2013 19: 55 New
        -3
        I always liked the Jews who live in their BV ghetto. You do not intervene just because the United States ordered you to. And then in an instant, purely by accident, all the militants will look not only at Syria, but also at Israel. Purely by accident. You are sitting under the US hood. And do what you are ordered.

        What does it mean that Israel asked the United States not to stop funding the Egyptian army? Who are you treating? They are going to hold the next Syrian-Libyan version, and you rub for your Jews. Ha ha ha, sit behind your wall and don't lean out. Watch while they give.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 10 July 2013 23: 14 New
          +1
          Quote: piterkras
          What does it mean that Israel asked the United States not to stop funding the Egyptian army? Who are you treating?

          Here you are wrong !!

          The Saudi Arabian authorities intend to provide aid to Egypt in the amount of $ 5 billion, the inter-Arab TV channel Al-Arabiya reported on Tuesday, INTERFAX reports.

          Of this amount, $ 1 billion will be free financial assistance, another $ 2 billion - a loan. In addition, the Saudi authorities will provide Egypt with energy products worth $ 2 billion.

          Earlier, the UAE authorities also announced their intention to provide Egypt with financial assistance in the amount of $ 1 billion, as well as an interest-free loan in the amount of $ 2 billion.
          http://www.vesti.az/news/165085

          KUWAIT ALLOCATES EGYPT $ 4 BILLION AS ASSISTANCE
          July 10, 2013 22:58 - In the world. Read - 58 times
          Kuwait on Wednesday announced the allocation of Egypt 4 billion US dollars.

          According to the Minister of State of Kuwait, Sheikh Abdullah Al-Sabah, of these funds, $ 1 billion will be donations, $ 2 billion will be a deposit in the Central Bank of Egypt. Kuwait will supply oil products to Egypt for another $ 1 billion.

          Earlier, aid was allocated to Egypt by Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Taking into account Kuwait, the total amount of foreign aid provided to the new Egyptian authorities is $ 12 billion, Interfax reports.
          http://vesti.az/news/165219
          Without the go-ahead of the United States, these Wahhabi Pinocchio and a penny would not have given !!
  16. PB1995
    PB1995 9 July 2013 11: 53 New
    +2
    The Egyptians are simply tired of the "freaks" of Mursi, who tried to build life in Egypt according to Islamic laws, forgetting that not everyone shares his views (in December 2012 there were protests against the Islamic constitution). In Egypt, the term "Ikhwana" even appeared, that is, the appointment of representatives of the "Muslim Brotherhood" or people with similar views to positions of power (in Russia it is almost the same, only instead of "MB" - "United Russia"). In general, M. Mursi could not (and probably did not want to be) "the president of all Egyptians."
    1. individual
      individual 9 July 2013 13: 52 New
      +1
      Well well.
      In Russia, the United Russia party is a motley lot of moneybags and involved public authorities.
      Nowhere and not forbidden by anyone.
      The Muslim Brotherhood International is an extremely reactionary international Muslim political organization. By definition, there will be no strangers.
      The Supreme Court of the Russian Federation recognized the organization as terrorist and banned its activities on the territory of the Russian Federation.
  17. igor67
    igor67 9 July 2013 13: 37 New
    -2
    Syrian Free Army: Israel Destroyed Assad S-300s

    publication time: 08: 40
    last update: 09: 20





    The newspaper "Israel HaYom" reports with reference to the page "Words of the Syrian Revolution" on the social network Facebook that representatives of the rebel Free Army of Syria confirmed the fact that Israel destroyed the S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems supplied by Russia to Bashar al-Assad.

    - S-300 missile systems in the forests of Russia. Hunting Results

    According to the statement, "the regime has acknowledged that a new Israeli attack destroyed a depot with C-300 launchers located in the al-Qasiya camp near al-Khaffa."

    Apparently, we are talking about explosions that occurred in the weapons and ammunition depot of the Syrian government forces in the area of ​​the port city of Latakia on July 5 this year.

    Presumably, the warehouse has undergone rocket fire, but who exactly is behind this shelling is currently unknown. It was not reported by official sources and what weapons were stored in the destroyed warehouse.

    Nonetheless, rumors have circulated in the blogosphere over the past few days that a warehouse containing S-300 components was destroyed by sea-to-surface missiles fired from an Israeli Dolphin-class submarine. (Note that al-Khaffa is located east of Latakia, about 20 km from the coast. But the exact location of the warehouse where the explosions took place is unknown.)

    The Israeli authorities did not comment on these rumors. Official Damascus against Israel no charges this time.

    In June, Russian President Vladimir Putin and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov announced that the contract for the supply of S-300 air defense systems of Syria has not yet been completed. Previously published data that such deliveries have begun.

    Recall that we are talking about the old agreement between Moscow and Damascus, according to which, back in 2010, an agreement was reached on the purchase of four S-300 batteries for $ 900 million. According to the Israeli authorities, one payment for this transaction was made by Syria in 2013 through the Russian Vnesheconombank (VEB).
  18. igor67
    igor67 9 July 2013 13: 39 New
    +2
    Egypt's new authorities open an embassy in Syria

    Former President Mohamed Mursi severed Egypt’s relations with Syria on June 15 in support of Sunni rebels.

    But last Sunday, the interim government of Egypt decided to reopen its diplomatic missions in a neighboring country. This is stated in a statement on the website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

    The ministry said that improving relations is a response from authorities to requests from Egyptian expatriates in Syria and Syrians living in Egypt.

    A ministry spokesman said countries agreed to re-establish ties and maintain consular relations.
  19. igor67
    igor67 9 July 2013 13: 42 New
    0
    publication time: 12: 08
    last update: 12: 39





    A powerful explosion occurred on July 9 in the Shiite region of Dahiya, located in the south of Beirut, which is considered a stronghold of Hezbollah. At this stage, it is not known who is responsible for the explosion, however, supporters of the Syrian rebels are believed to be behind it.

    As reported by the Hezbollah Al-Manar TV channel, a car bomb exploded, parked near the Islamic Cooperation Center in the Dir al-Abed region. According to eyewitnesses, there are killed and wounded on the spot. Significant damage to buildings and vehicles was inflicted.

    Official Lebanese sources do not yet confirm information about the victims, but they report that at least 21 people were injured. The militants of the group quickly cordoned off the quarter. Residents were invited to evacuate because of the danger of repeated explosions.

    In the area where the explosion occurred, there are numerous Hezbollah facilities, both military and civilian. Israeli commentators do not exclude that we can talk about an attempt to eliminate one or another group leader involved in the hostilities in Syria.

    One of the residents of the area, a parliamentarian from Hezbollah, Ali Ammar, said that the purpose of the attack was to intimidate the Lebanese resistance. "This heinous crime bears the fingerprints of the Israeli enemy," he said.

    Israeli Defense Minister Moshe ("Gods") Ya'alon denied these allegations. "Explosions often occur in our region. Israel's borders remain calm, which is not easy. We follow what is happening in Beirut. But this is a struggle between Shiites and Sunnis, we do not interfere," he said during a visit to the Zeelim military base.

    A cloud of black smoke is clearly visible from many parts of Beirut. As noted by the radio station "Reshet Bet", the last time explosions of such power took place in the Lebanese capital seven years ago - during the Second Lebanese War.
  20. Odysseus
    Odysseus 9 July 2013 15: 13 New
    0
    Egypt cannot be on the way to a civil war according to the Syrian scenario.
    There is no external customer, and the internal conflict has a "top" political character.
    Most importantly, the conflict has not acquired social features. Moreover, here it does not even have a religious or national character.
  21. Letterksi
    Letterksi 9 July 2013 15: 24 New
    0
    Horror stories before bed! The "Muslim brothers" will not win, they have chosen the wrong methods. It is impossible to win the hearts of the people by terror. Syria will be Stalingrad for the United States, after which they will roll west from the borders of Russia
  22. Russ69
    Russ69 9 July 2013 15: 42 New
    0
    Egyptian prosecutors issue arrest warrants for members of Syrian opposition

    "According to Al-Masri al-Yaum, the Egyptian prosecutor's office has issued arrest warrants for over 200 members of the Syrian opposition. They are all connected with the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and were hired to organize riots (attacks on demonstrators opposing the government Mohammed Mursi in the squares of large cities).
    The publication reports that supporters of the Syrian National Council and the National Coalition of Opposition and Revolutionary Forces several times used weapons against peaceful demonstrators. According to the investigation, only in Cairo they killed 8 people. Also called the name of one of the criminals: Mohammed Mohi ad-Darjuti.
    Earlier, several leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood party were arrested, including the second person in the party, its chief financier, Heyrat al-Shater. Also arrested were members of the political wing of the Muslim Brotherhood of the Party of Freedom and Justice, led by Saad al Katatni. All of them are accused of incitement to kill demonstrators and encroachment on public safety.
    The ousted Egyptian President Mohammed Mursi himself is under arrest at the headquarters of the Republican Guard. Meanwhile, due to the tightening of security rules after the removal from power of Muhammad Mursi, the order of entry into Egypt for Syrian citizens has changed. This was reported by the Egyptian agency MENA.
    During the presidency of Muhammad Mursi, entry for the Syrians was unlimited. Now, citizens of Syria need to obtain visas to enter Egypt in advance. It is also necessary to have the special consent of the Egyptian authorities to enter.
  23. Sour
    Sour 9 July 2013 15: 51 New
    +5
    That's all, of course, correctly said ...
    But let's look at things realistically. Egypt's main problem is not foreign intervention (it exists in any country), but that the population is growing faster than the economy.
    It is a fact. And this applies to the entire Islamic world, and not just Egypt.
    It is obvious that the population cannot reproduce at such a pace. Four fifths of the territory of Egypt is a desert and unsuitable for living (this applies to many Islamic countries). And the population is growing exponentially. Since 2000, in Egypt it has grown by almost a third. Which economy can handle this?
    It is far from a fact that the economic and demographic problems of the Islamic world are solved in principle. It is possible that there is no acceptable way out of this situation.
    We can talk about what the countries of Europe, America, East Asia, Russia give to humanity, in terms of scientific and technological progress. And what does the Islamic world give? Science and technology are more or less developed only in Shiite Iran and in not fully Islamized Turkey. And where "political Islam" reigns supreme, progress stops in any area except fertility. In the Islamic world, powerful destructive forces are ripening (or have already matured), capable of blowing up the whole world. And the salvation for the world (both for the Islamic and for the rest), first of all, is that Islam should remain just a religion and stop being politics. If this does not happen, the worst is yet to come. Including for Egypt.
  24. knn54
    knn54 9 July 2013 17: 51 New
    0
    -I must say that all claims to Mursi that he did not make life in the country a "fairy tale" are clearly biased.
    He was engaged ONLY in the creation of an Islamic system of power. “Muslim Brotherhood” FULLEST PROFANS in the socio-economic sphere. You can’t feed the people with the slogan “Islam is the solution”.
    They are also “egoists” who row for themselves: the Islamic constitution will infringe on the rights:
    -copts;
    Negroid tribes;
    women.
    And Egyptian Muslims who are not Salafists and “Muslim Brotherhood,” for example, Shiites. That is, a significant part of the country's population.
    The Egyptians will still remember Mubarak with a kind word. Like now, Iraqis are Saddam Hussein, and Libyans are Muammar Gaddafi.
    Iraq is falling apart, Libya, too ... is Egypt's turn?
    PS Events in Egypt, Turkey and Syria are EXTREMELY indicative. In the Islamic world, a “critical mass” of people who no longer want religious slavery have been reached.
  25. serge
    serge 9 July 2013 18: 55 New
    0
    The theory of the civil war in Egypt speaks of a completely clear foreign inspiration
    civil unrest, at least at the initial stage of the "revolution", as well as overpopulation with
    logical subsequent lack of natural resources and food. It is clear that the Americans are muddying the water there, because in the civil war in Egypt, unlike Syria, not a single country in the Middle East, including the eternal enemy of Egypt, Israel, is interested.
    There are many things that speak against the great civil war in the future. Religion in Egypt is almost the same, not counting the Copts. Nationality is almost the same. Almost the entire territory of the Egyptians is located on a rather narrow strip of land along the Nile, which does not contribute to civil wars. The history of Egypt hardly knew civil wars, unlike military coups. Egypt is one of the least religious Arab countries, if not all Muslims. Muslim extremists have always been there, but did not enjoy widespread support from the population. So, most likely, Egypt expects a series of riots, coups and a wave of terrorist activity, but not a civil war. Subsequently, a military dictatorship (under which flag, and with what structure, presidential or not, it does not matter), which can restore order and tightly distribute food resources. In the future, Egypt, of course, needs birth control, since current problems (not counting foreign influence) are caused solely by overpopulation.
  26. mirag2
    mirag2 9 July 2013 18: 59 New
    0
    No, no, no. There will not be such a mess here as in Syria. The situation is not a bit like it. You can, of course, breed demagogy on this topic for as long as you like. The coup, of course, was arranged with the help of Western intelligence, which put pressure on their levers of influence- just remember that the Americans give money to the Egyptian army. Once the army against Mursi, then the Americans don’t need it. Why they don’t need it is another question. In Syria, on the contrary, the Americans support the Islamists. The site started out very tight. Erdogan calls what happened in Egypt, the coup is dissatisfied with the inaction of Western democracies about this. This suggests that Mursi is spiritually close to Erdogan (or vice versa). Who is dissatisfied with Mursi in Egypt is dissatisfied with Erdogan in Turkey. Do the logical conclusions yourself.
    In Syria, the same orange revolution buksanula-there was a war, in Turkey everything was crushed in the bud, and in Egypt officially (with the help of the army) it was supported.
  27. Alexanderlaskov
    Alexanderlaskov 9 July 2013 19: 07 New
    0
    The West is fanning the fire of war. Russia needs to lead countries that want peace.
  28. Makarov
    Makarov 9 July 2013 19: 52 New
    0
    The author, it seems to me, you strongly idealize the capabilities of the West in this matter. It also seems to me that the situation in Egypt has long gone out of control and now, simply because of confusion, the West cannot make a decision. in order to calculate most of the possible options, significant analytical resources are required, which are used by the United States in other issues (Syria, Afghanistan, Snowden, missile defense ...) cases turned out to be more likely than opportunities, but without analytics, not a single state prezik knows how to make a decision, that's why the mumblers (unprintable word) about "democracy" are silent, as if they don't know other words anymore, Europe looks at its master and keeps silent, in the end everything is decided by time. If events in Egypt are too rapid, then control will be completely lost. On the other hand, we can assume that this is all a cunning plan, well, just incredibly cunning, complex and in the long run ...
  29. GUSAR
    GUSAR 9 July 2013 20: 28 New
    0
    The Egyptians got what they themselves went for a long time ...
    1. Ga3prom
      Ga3prom 10 July 2013 13: 18 New
      0
      they could be helped
  30. GUSAR
    GUSAR 9 July 2013 20: 52 New
    +1
    And what did not suit their "bloody" Mubarak? They lived without grieving (well, not that, of course, anything happened), they cut money from tourism, from the export of fruits, what kind of industry developed. Yes, there was some kind of emergency that no one felt ... And now? In general, now let it be brewed and devoured.
  31. Rumata
    Rumata 10 July 2013 00: 11 New
    +1
    The West is behind everything !! And the fact that unemployment in the country is above 20% is such a trifle. Even 10 years ago, analysts from the United States prepared a report on Egypt, which stated that almost 40% of the country's population, after the baby boom of the mid-90s, is under 15 years old. There was also a forecast that in 10-12 years Egypt would have to create at least 10 million (!!!) new jobs or unemployment would break all records (in general, this figure for the Arab countries was 55 million). The median age in Egypt is 22 years, for comparison in Russia - 37, in Europe even higher. When in the country 40% of the population is young people with Internet access, most of whom cannot find work, then no West is needed here, everything will explode on its own. Especially in the light of the new "Sharia" laws of Mursi, the oppression of small businesses, large state debts, etc., etc. It seems that people here are sure that someone is behind everything on the planet, the puppeteers pull the strings, and ordinary people do not decide anything, nothing happens spontaneously. This is a flawed logic that will not lead to anything good ...
  32. regsSSSR
    regsSSSR 10 July 2013 05: 09 New
    -1
    The owners of the Western project need a world war, and Muslims should become its official arsonists.


    Well, I agree with this, the puppeteers have long been setting the stage for a new redivision of the world, and it already seems to me that there is no secret to anyone that the state desperately needs war, the economy breathes in debt, it hangs like a sword of Damocles over them! the army is huge, it is necessary to feed it and to merge it as the Soviet Union did, they obviously do not assemble and the Arab countries, like no other, are ideally suited for this mess! WAR for amers is not scary it sounds perfect and chutli is not the only way to get out of this situation to write off all debts and it’s worthless to earn extra money!
  33. Ga3prom
    Ga3prom 10 July 2013 13: 17 New
    0
    I wonder how 100 thousand of ours will be taken out
  34. Ram chandra
    Ram chandra 10 July 2013 14: 19 New
    0
    I don’t know about you - but I am for the army. Although .. there are so many people in the world - high die.
  35. mnn_13
    mnn_13 10 July 2013 15: 52 New
    0
    The West does not need stability in Egypt, so the secular part of society has been set against the Islamists.

    It is seen in the West that they think that chaos and the meat grinder in the East will not touch them. I deeply doubt it.

    The more sober and gloomy calculations of analysts begin to come true.

    Geopolitical engineering of the West is a highly developed theoretical and applied science. Nadeyus in Moscow the lag will not be at a critical limit.