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Foreign media: Vladimir Putin's power games - Russia builds up missile defense

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According to US officials, Russia is involved in a massive build-up of anti-missile defense systems, and at the same time Moscow is trying to limit the United States anti-missile defense.


The Russian military is developing and introducing a mass of new and modernized anti-missile interceptors, which are part of a strategic doctrine that, according to Moscow, is designed to protect against the growing ballistic threat, US officials say who have access to intelligence reports, The Washington Times reported.

According to the US intelligence services in Russia, there are new systems under development or at the deployment stage, including the advanced C-500 missile defense system, currently being developed in addition to the existing high-performance C-400 and C-300 systems.

Foreign media: Vladimir Putin's power games - Russia builds up missile defense

Advanced missile defense complex C-500



Available high-performance complex C-400



Available high-performance complex C-300


In addition, Russians are upgrading SH-08 anti-missile missiles that have been deployed around Moscow for more than two decades.


Installing SH-08 nuclear missile anti-missiles into the mine



Mine anti-missiles with nuclear warhead SH-08


Other new defensive systems capable of repelling the attack of airplanes and missiles are the SA-20 anti-aircraft missile systems (C-300PMU-1 / 2) and SA-21 (C-400), as well as the new advanced complex SA-X-23 ( C-300ВМ)


SA-20 anti-aircraft missile system (C-300PMU-1 / 2)


These defenses are effective against cruise missiles, bombers, fighters, medium and short range ballistic missiles and intercontinental ballistic missiles.

The representative of the US government, whose name is not called, believes that the administration is hiding evidence of the buildup of Russian defense forces. In addition, the White House is actively pursuing dubious air defense talks with Russia, aimed at alleviating Moscow’s concerns about the US and NATO defense forces, which are believed to be secretly aimed against the Moscow strategic arsenal.

Another statesman reports that Russia has recently begun to publicly declare a large-scale modernization of its missile defense. “What is happening?”, He asks, “Why does the United States crawl and try to appease the Russians, and no one says anything about their missile defense?”

Proponents of weapons control claim that missile defense violates strategic stability and complicates efforts to reduce strategic offensive weapons. But if this is so "why Russia is building up its missile defense system, and why we allow them to do it," the American statesman is outraged.

“If everything goes on like this, Russia will force us to disarm our defenses, disarm our offensive weapons and simply disgrace us,” he adds.

Last week, Russian President Vladimir Putin met with senior officials, including the Minister of Defense, the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces, the Deputy Minister of Defense in charge of armaments, and the commanders of the armed forces.

A spokesman for the president told Interfax that the meeting was devoted to the problems of developing new missile defense systems and countering existing systems.


Vladimir Putin met with senior officials, including the Minister of Defense, the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces, the Deputy Minister of Defense in charge of armaments, and commanders of military branches


In addition, the Russian press reported that President Barack Obama proposed in a recent letter to Putin to conclude a legally binding agreement on the exchange of information on anti-missile defense in order to "ensure the absence of mutual threat." This article is posted in the Kommersant Daily.


President Barack Obama proposed in a recent letter to Putin to conclude a legally binding agreement on the exchange of information on missile defense


White House spokeswoman Kaitlin Hayden made no comments about the Russian report. "As a rule, we do not comment on the content of the president’s correspondence, and do not intend to do it now," she told the Washington Free Beacon.

The published letter provoked the Republican opposition in Congress to the revelation that the Pentagon held a closed meeting on declassifying the technical data of the missile defense system, which can be shared with Russia.

Republican Mo Brooks (Alabama) and Senator Mark Kirk (Illinois) said they are against disclosing any information on missile defense and warned that such an information exchange would undermine the US national security, and the compromise on the missile defense system would cost the taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars .

Thomas Moore, a former foreign affairs strategist at the Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs, said that Russia plans to create a powerful air and missile defense structure within its state and in the states of the former Soviet Union within the framework of the Collective Security Treaty Organization.

“The recent announcement of the deployment of the C-300 in Belarus is an indicator of future events,” Moore said, noting that open information sources report on Russian developments of the C-300 nuclear warhead.


Deployment of С-300 air defense systems in Belarus


Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov confronted the deployment of a missile defense system in Belarus with a violation of the agreement on restricting NATO expansion in 1990.

“We may wonder why Russia is experiencing the need for such threatening gestures, whether it is connected with the missile defense system, NATO’s deployed in Europe or not, but I think the Russians will continue to use NATO’s anti-missile and air defense systems or even a hint of future strengthening, as a driving force for increasing our own sales of weapons and military-technical cooperation, ”Moore said.

John Bolton, a former undersecretary of state for arms control and international security, said the reports about the modernization of the Russian missile defense system are alarming. “If the Russians really modernize the existing means of protection, at the same time, the Obama administration gives Russia a leading role in the negotiations, this clearly proves the president’s (Obama’s) naivety in foreign policy,” Bolton said, “Moscow must still be looking forward to more “flexibility” from Obama, as he promised President Dmitry Medvedev of Russia last year. "

Jack Caravelli, a former CIA analyst (currently working in LIGNET - a strategic intelligence group), believes that Russia's interest in the development of air defense and missile defense is part of Putin’s larger comprehensive plan to strengthen strategic military capabilities, which was announced during last year’s presidential campaign. He said: “Russia has technical capabilities and many years of experience in developing powerful defensive systems, while the Obama administration is plotting to cut its strategic forces even more. Russia is also developing and introducing a new generation of long-range missiles either from the United States, and American missiles will not be able to match them for at least the next two decades. ”

Frank Gaffney, a former assistant secretary of defense in the Reagan administration, also sounded the alarm about the current administration’s talks with the Russians. "The Kremlin is returning to Soviet times, when it was believed that missile defense is not just legal, but necessary to protect priority values ​​and the public," he said.
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  1. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 9 July 2013 07: 28 New
    +56
    They do not like !!! It's only the beginning..
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 9 July 2013 07: 58 New
      +28
      Article +! Everything is clear to everyone.
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 9 July 2013 09: 07 New
        +27
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        Article +! Everything is clear to everyone.

        Just a balm for the soul!
        1. INTER
          INTER 9 July 2013 09: 25 New
          +30
          Quote: GreatRussia
          Frank Gaffney, a former assistant secretary of defense for the Reagan administration, also sounded the alarm over negotiations between the current administration and the Russians. “The Kremlin is returning to Soviet times when it was believed that missile defense is not just legal, but necessary to protect priority values ​​and the population,” he said.

          I don’t understand what is shameful and illegal here? Yes, we protect ourselves and our territory. The oceans do not protect us from all sides and we did not have a century without a war in the history of us. USA who are you, let's say goodbye))))))))))))
          1. dustycat
            dustycat 9 July 2013 11: 52 New
            +4
            Yes, it was he who accidentally found his pieces of paper during his work in the Reagan administration on the table.
          2. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 9 July 2013 14: 50 New
            +18
            Why is it incomprehensible? For example, you can’t own a gun, it’s illegal. The gun is a protective weapon, and therefore it is impossible. You do not have the right to defend yourself; you must call a government representative who will do what he sees fit. It may protect you, or it may arrest you ... or shoot you, because you "seemed dangerous to him."
            The United States is doing the same, with the amazement and indignation of its representatives - one in one amazement and indignation of our law enforcement agencies. Well, in fact - why do you need a defensive weapon? They are watching over you! So Russia, of course, doesn’t need any missile defense ...
          3. luka095
            luka095 9 July 2013 22: 13 New
            +9
            All statements of Americans are designed primarily for domestic consumption! And they are aimed at achieving very specific goals precisely within the United States.
            We do not need to be indignant at their reasoning. Yes, pay attention and try to understand why they are doing this.
            And implement your own plans on schedule, without failures!
          4. Tatb
            Tatb 10 July 2013 15: 38 New
            +3
            And our missiles are on their land !!! Where are they! and they will still tell us something !!! ! angry
            1. kostiknet
              kostiknet 15 July 2013 12: 28 New
              0
              Quote: TATb
              our missiles are on their land !!! And where are they!

              Wise thought. Here NATO will get away from OUR borders, will answer in full for war crimes, disband the shock parts ... Vobschem "wash his hands." Then he will point to our "gray spots"! Our air defense / PR, this is a defense against their attack. Destroy the spouts of the Air Force and launch vehicles and we will reduce (not until the end, because there are still countries in the world) our missile defense. And if they drown their fleet’s striking forces, we will “cut” us, for the company. winked But they won’t go for “such a feat”! They are afraid of someone. Tolley us, such pink and fluffy, and maybe Martians with the North Koreans and Iran combined? Or maybe they are afraid of the retaliation of those countries where they have already managed to spoil? request
          5. igor.borov775
            igor.borov775 12 July 2013 22: 25 New
            0
            What are we talking about from the ABM Treaty? The USA came out so it turned out what they wanted, Moreover, China mothballed completely became bad
        2. Scoun
          Scoun 9 July 2013 15: 37 New
          +15
          Quote: GreatRussia
          Just a balm for the soul!

          and if you also pull the phrase out of the text)))
          "The Kremlin, goes back to Soviet times

          so generally ...... song .. oh, what time was it - social, communal, medicine, education .. but in the end there was natural food ....
          Yes, children had a childhood .....
          oh hump ... oh had tagged ...
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 July 2013 09: 36 New
      +11
      And someone else thinks that the cold warrior is over laughing
      1. dustycat
        dustycat 9 July 2013 11: 51 New
        +1
        What psychiatrists are aware of such cases? And even documented? lol
    3. Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru 9 July 2013 09: 45 New
      +13
      According to US government officials, Russia is involved in a massive buildup of missile defense systems, and at the same time, Moscow is trying to limit missile defense U.S.A.

      Complete nonsense. What kind of US missile defense limitation are we talking about ?! Something I have never heard that Russia is somehow trying to influence the limitation of the deployment of missile defense elements in America or Mexico. In general, the Indians don’t have anything to do in Europe; already, all of it has been done for their homosexuality ....

      open information sources report on Russian nuclear warhead designs for the C-300.

      And here is something surprising? Or do they not know, for example, that for the 9M82 (M) Gladiator missile C-300B, a neutron warhead was created even with the SA for use in the case of repulsing a massive raid / using bomber aircraft? If you didn’t know, then their intelligence had to be dispersed a long time ago ...
      1. egsp
        egsp 9 July 2013 21: 40 New
        -1
        since in NATO terminology, then 9M82 "Giant".
        1. Apologet.Ru
          Apologet.Ru 9 July 2013 23: 50 New
          +1
          hi
          C-300B - Gladiator
          And its modification C-300ВМ "Antey-2500" - "Giant" - Giant / Gladiator.
          Have you ever seen them live or only in pictures?
      2. poquello
        poquello 9 July 2013 23: 03 New
        +1
        "I have never heard something that Russia is somehow trying to influence the limitation of the deployment of missile defense elements in America or Mexico. In general, the Indians have nothing to do in Europe."

        Are you talking about the European states of America, bashfully calling themselves the European Union?
        1. Apologet.Ru
          Apologet.Ru 9 July 2013 23: 51 New
          +1
          hi

          Are you talking about the European states of America, bashfully calling themselves the European Union?


          Yeah ... repeat
    4. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 9 July 2013 09: 59 New
      +8
      Quote: MIKHAN
      They do not like !!! It's only the beginning..


      I do not like ? So everything is done correctly! laughing This is the most reliable indicator when 314ndos begin to whine.
    5. NKVD
      NKVD 9 July 2013 10: 36 New
      +4
      I never cease to amaze
      the arrogance of the Americans
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 9 July 2013 11: 59 New
        -21
        Why are Americans embarrassed? What can we do to them, will we announce an economic blockade? That’s impudent.
        And here's another thing, rockets are good, but in case of a serious mess (like in Libya, for example), our generals and officials will run a foreign country (like in Libya) to alternate aerodromes.
        For the real brave warlords, the modern regime has already destroyed (Budanov, Rokhlin).
        http://www.ymuhin.ru/node/935/ritualxnoe-ubiistvo
        and the people who are trying to defend themselves - with riot police, but are extinguished by armored personnel carriers.
        http://demotivation.me/o4inv18h1unapic.html#t8808798
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qcIUC4u1uY
        http://lenta.ru/news/2013/07/08/pugachev2/

        Look and it turns out that only our native deputies will protect us laughing
        http://kapital-rus.ru/index.php/news/news_podschitano_skolko_v_rossijskoj_gosdum
        e/
        1. Kipish
          Kipish 9 July 2013 13: 14 New
          +4
          As long as I remember. Recently, only liberals have been suppressing riot police, but this infection, although being modestly suppressed, it would be nice to add a piece of scrap to one place to get used to their masters in the geyropa.
          About the generals over the hill, this can be said about any country. Although if there is a big war, where it really smells like fried, then nuclear weapons are most likely to be used, which means that there is hardly any alternate airport on this planet)
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 9 July 2013 14: 12 New
            -14
            "Recently, only liberals have been suppressed by riot police" - the fact is that the liberals are now in power and the riot police are protecting them. You got a little messed up in your head.
            1. Nitup
              Nitup 9 July 2013 14: 31 New
              +10
              Quote: S_mirnov
              "Recently, only liberals have been suppressed by riot police" - the fact is that the liberals are now in power and the riot police are protecting them. You got a little messed up in your head.

              The authorities are different people, not just liberals. Riot police in our country does not allow any type of cams like Navalny and Udaltsov to rock the situation in the country.
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 9 July 2013 14: 53 New
                -5
                “The authorities are different people, not just liberals.” - which are different? Maybe in our power there is a confrontation between liberals and communists? No! all obediently vote in the State Duma for liberal laws.
                Market economy, open borders, convertible ruble, WTO membership, the primacy of the interests of the individual over the interests of society (oligarchs) - These are signs of liberalism, everything is clear!
                "Riot police in our country does not allow any type of cams like Navalny and Udaltsov to rock the situation in the country"
                then what does the riot police do in Pugachev? There is neither Navalny, nor Udaltsov - it was not they who brought the situation to a popular rebellion, but the officials and the government of the Russian Federation! The people are simply defending themselves.
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qcIUC4u1uY
                http://lenta.ru/news/2013/07/08/pugachev2/
                and by the way, it’s not the Udaltsov who are to blame for the events in Sagra and Kondapog, but the liberal government!
                1. Nitup
                  Nitup 9 July 2013 15: 00 New
                  +5
                  It is so different. Take Putin and Medvedev, take Rogozin and Dvorkovich. So do not say that power is homogeneous. The State Duma votes not only for liberal laws, but also for completely non-liberal ones. For example, the law on the prohibition of adoption in the United States and countries with same-sex marriages, the law on rallies, on foreign agents, on slander, etc.
                  And where does Pugachev? In Pugachev, riot police prevent riots. Its' his job.
                  1. S_mirnov
                    S_mirnov 9 July 2013 16: 33 New
                    -1
                    "In Pugachev, riot police prevent riots. This is his job." And whose work is to ensure the rule of law so that there are no popular uprisings like in Pugachev?
                    1. Nitup
                      Nitup 9 July 2013 18: 27 New
                      +1
                      Honestly, I did not really follow what was happening there in Pugachev, but it was not up to the crowd to decide how the police should act.
                      1. war
                        war 9 July 2013 18: 45 New
                        +3
                        When the police are inactive, the time comes for the crowd (people) to decide for themselves how to act in an environment of complete lawlessness of the ethnocriminal.
                      2. Nitup
                        Nitup 9 July 2013 19: 15 New
                        +2
                        It is not yet known who is outrageous there. And if the lawlessness is not, as you put it, "ethnocriminal", then the police can be inactive?
                      3. S_mirnov
                        S_mirnov 9 July 2013 23: 50 New
                        0
                        "It is not yet known who is outrageous there."
                        "Chechens, in vain niuvoviny!" laughing
                        But seriously, there are doubts about who will mess? (well, except for the oligarchs and judges of course)
                      4. Nitup
                        Nitup 10 July 2013 00: 01 New
                        +4
                        There was a domestic murder, of which tens or hundreds occur daily. No one says that he is not to blame. But he is as guilty as the Russian who would kill someone. But for some reason, when Caucasians commit crimes in our country, our pro-Western media start shouting about it for days on end and some riots take place. And the goal of such a media policy is to provoke ethnic hatred, and the goal of provocateurs like you is the same.
                      5. S_mirnov
                        S_mirnov 10 July 2013 00: 12 New
                        +2
                        Interethnic hatred, of course, is sought by the enemies of our homeland, Yu and our rulers actively help them in this, who have one laws for the Chechen diaspora and others for the Russian person! The problem is this, not the ghost of the State Department! Cleaning must begin with our country, then the enemies will not be able to do anything. Proven by Stalin!
                      6. Nitup
                        Nitup 10 July 2013 11: 37 New
                        0
                        So I’m telling you that there are different people in power. And we need to get rid of traitor compradors as soon as possible. And, apparently, Putin knows more than us about the real situation and when it is better to begin active actions in this direction.
                    2. lds040580
                      lds040580 12 July 2013 15: 59 New
                      +1
                      Caucasians are guests on our land and should behave like GUESTS !!! blea ...
                    3. Nitup
                      Nitup 14 July 2013 18: 22 New
                      +1
                      Caucasians or not Caucasians, it makes no difference. in Russia, everyone must abide by the law, no matter where anyone is
        2. Scoun
          Scoun 9 July 2013 18: 41 New
          +11
          Quote: S_mirnov
          "In Pugachev, riot police prevent riots. This is his job." And whose work is to ensure the rule of law so that there are no popular uprisings like in Pugachev?

          I can do the same......
          USA ... Occupy Wall Street ... dispersed by the police .... riots disperse the dare Hadi .. where the rule of law?
          England ... Central London on Monday was plagued by riots, looting and fires. Clashes with police and the looting of shops could be observed in the London areas of Hackney, Peckham, Lewish, Eastham, Croydon, Clapham. (don’t be afraid, I mean 2011)
          France..
          riots in france. France: rioting against same-sex marriages. 300 people arrested in Paris after a rally.

          how to live on ... everything is gone and you need to start shouting slogans on the forum ... aaaa Kondopoga !!! aaaa Sayano-Shushenskaya !!!! aaaaa tridvarasy .... that is, only slogans and a call for unrest?
          If you have something specific to offer .. please voice
          and even the generals will run away and the soldiers will drape ...
          our simple guys Peacekeepers didn’t run away when they ironed them with direct fire ...
          as for migration ... the media is working on information to create support from the people for actions that will be taken with respect to immigrants ... and by the way, public opinion is further heated by people like you .. but in its worst form ..
          You are trying to escalate HATE ....
          Quote: S_mirnov
          "Riot police in our country does not allow any type of cams like Navalny and Udaltsov to rock the situation in the country"
          then what does the riot police do in Pugachev? There is neither Navalny, nor Udaltsov - it was not they who brought the situation to a popular rebellion, but the officials and the government of the Russian Federation! The people are simply defending themselves.

          Quote: S_mirnov
          our generals and officials will run a foreign foe (as in Libya) to alternate aerodromes.
          For real brave warlords the modern regime has already destroyed

          mix the truth with a half-truth .. by the area you beat ...
          probably the brave generals died out in 1996 .... and did the run and 2000 running away?
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 9 July 2013 23: 56 New
            0
            "If you have something specific to offer .. please voice"
            especially for you:

            http://igpr.ru/nasha_tsel
          2. Scoun
            Scoun 10 July 2013 09: 47 New
            +1
            Have a nice day!
            Thanks for the link .. read and almost 100% agree.
            Regarding the events in Pugachev ... it is very alarming that some people are trying to play this tragedy according to their scenario ... that is, they are engaged in black PR ... please note .. that the Caucasians friends brought the wounded to the hospital ... friends also found the killer and brought to the police ...
            PS.
            I in no way support the gopota ... but I do not want to be a herd.
            PS. PS,
            The fact that the surgeon on duty was not in place and the orderly raises doubts about professionalism ... this all applies to the fact that your link ... but I want to note .. the authorities will be responsible when the people themselves will become responsible .. that we must employees and power, business and others .. to accustom to order .. and not wait as manna from heaven and take it for granted, and the people begin to do it .. and quite civilized ..
            won in Moscow as a perfect Maryino correctly activists stop stop
    6. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 9 July 2013 16: 39 New
      -7
      “It's so different. Take Putin and Medvedev, take Rogozin and Dvorkovich.” - And what are the contradictions? All advocate liberal values. All adherents of a market economy and oligarchy. I am particularly amused by the difference between GDP and DAM laughing
      “For example, the law banning adoption in the United States and countries with same-sex marriage” - and how did this affect the situation in our country? laughing
      The answer is Nothing!
      1. Nitup
        Nitup 9 July 2013 18: 32 New
        +8
        But the contradictions between them are that, for example, Medvedev constantly urges that everything needs to be privatized, and Putin and Sechin constantly say that this should not be done now, saying that now the price is low, etc. That is, they delay the time to what events. Maybe before the resignation of the government or its individual members, etc. And the law on the ban on adoption has changed the situation in the country by the fact that our children will no longer be adopted by Americans or some buggers and mocked and raped them. And your dumb laugh is not at all appropriate here
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 9 July 2013 23: 42 New
          -3
          "And the law on the ban on adoption has changed the situation in the country by the fact that our children will no longer be adopted by Americans or whatever" - when was the last time you were in a domestic children's home? Have you met street children on the street? It is still a question of who the piderasts are - the Americans or our deputies!
          “Medvedev is constantly pushing that everything needs to be privatized, and Putin and Sechin constantly say that we don’t need to do this now” - the fact of the matter is that they are just talking and nothing more, and privatization is going its own way. You are shown a performance with different characters, and you are being carried on ...
          laughing "And your stupid laugh" is not a laugh - it is a grin!
        2. Nitup
          Nitup 10 July 2013 00: 03 New
          +3
          Only you and similar clowns show the performance here.
        3. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 10 July 2013 00: 08 New
          +2
          Oh, I forgot to tell you new scenes from the play:
          "Vladimir Putin awarded billionaire Alisher Usmanov the Order of Merit for the Fatherland"

          Vladimir Putin awarded the richest Russian businessman Alisher Usmanov the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, IV degree. "
          http://www.dp.ru/a/2013/07/08/Usmanov_nagrazhden_ordenom/
  2. poquello
    poquello 9 July 2013 23: 22 New
    +3
    “For example, the law banning adoption in the United States and countries with same-sex marriage” - and how did this affect the situation in our country?
    The answer is Nothing! "

    Somehow the country at the border does not end, the boys are still Russian, even if they forget their native language.
    1. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 10 July 2013 00: 16 New
      +1
      The law was adopted as a counter-measure to Magnitsky’s law (some Russian officials were banned from leaving Zakordon and arrested accounts in US banks), our government doesn’t give a damn about children, this is obvious from its actions, it’s easier for migrants to give Russian citizenship at least 500 a year and not worry about Russian people!
    2. poquello
      poquello 10 July 2013 19: 20 New
      +2
      "The law was adopted as a counter-measure to Magnitsky’s law (some Russian officials were banned from leaving Zakordon and arrested bank accounts in the USA), our government doesn’t care about children,"

      From being adopted as a countermeasure, a good law will not become bad. Among the migrants, probably, Russians are also returning.
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  • 0255
    0255 9 July 2013 13: 46 New
    0
    sad but true
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  • poquello
    poquello 9 July 2013 23: 09 New
    +3
    "For the present brave military leaders have already been destroyed by the modern regime (Budanov, Rokhlin)."

    It is not good to cover your genitals with the names of respected people.
  • Shotoff
    Shotoff 9 July 2013 12: 16 New
    +7
    Impudent, two-faced demagogues. Whose cow would moo about missile defense. Either Russia has the doctrine of the offensive use of nuclear weapons, or it is the Russians who came up with Swift Global Strike (their strategy for the first global strike).
    1. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 9 July 2013 21: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Shotoff
      Or is Russia the doctrine of the offensive use of nuclear weapons

      Are you very confident that Russia does not have the doctrine of the first strike of nuclear weapons or, as you call it, the doctrines of the offensive use of nuclear weapons?
      I am not a general staffer, but the principle of a categorical “never say never” will hardly be appropriate here!
      For the first time, the possibility and our right to the first nuclear strike was announced in due time by Marshal KONEV (then in the post of the first deputy of the USSR Ministry of Defense) ... the last time - literally five years ago ... the same official of the first magnitude in the Moscow region ....
  • Tuzik
    Tuzik 9 July 2013 15: 41 New
    +3
    Western balance - "just don’t arm yourself so that you can resist our interests"
  • dustycat
    dustycat 9 July 2013 11: 53 New
    +1
    What will happen ?!
    1. Truth-lover
      Truth-lover 9 July 2013 12: 24 New
      +1
      Indeed, what would you like ???
  • AVV
    AVV 9 July 2013 16: 42 New
    +1
    Stirred like a snake in a pan !!!
  • Su24
    Su24 10 July 2013 16: 24 New
    0
    These defenses are effective against cruise missiles, bombers, fighters, medium and short range ballistic missiles and intercontinental ballistic missiles.



    They lie and do not blush. In theory, only the S-500, a system that is still under development, should intercept ICBMs. The S-300 example is generally funny, it can only intercept OTR and short-range missiles. In general, apparently they are pumping a tantrum in their home to knock out even more money from the budget, 660 billion are not enough for them. That's why they confuse the warm with the soft (intentionally): Russia did not violate the anti-missile defense agreement of 1972, because Does not create a strategic missile defense, unlike the United States. The development of air defense and missile defense theater does not contradict any agreements.
    The fact that senators are dissatisfied with the deployment of the S-300 in Belarus in general looks like an interference in internal affairs. And this is against the backdrop of the already accomplished NATO advance east, directly to our borders.
  • bosxxl
    bosxxl 11 July 2013 05: 03 New
    0
    we shook
  • borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 9 July 2013 07: 28 New
    +7
    from the Don.
    We are dancing from: joy: for our missile defense!
    1. Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru 9 July 2013 10: 19 New
      +4
      Jack Caravelli, a former CIA analyst (currently employed by LIGNET, a strategic intelligence group), believes that Russia's interest in developing air defense and missile defense is part of Putin’s broader comprehensive strategic plan to strengthen strategic military capabilities announced during last year’s presidential campaign. He said: “Russia has the technical capabilities and many years of experience in developing powerful defense systems, while the Obama administration is planning an even greater reduction in its strategic forces. Russia is also developing and introducing a new generation of long-range missiles that are more modernized than any either from the United States, and American missiles will not be able to match them, at least in the next two decades. "

      I read and sings ...

  • lemal
    lemal 9 July 2013 07: 28 New
    0
    Correctly GAFF Kaesh !!!
  • Igor39
    Igor39 9 July 2013 07: 28 New
    +21
    If the West is so worried, then Putin is doing everything right.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 9 July 2013 09: 53 New
      +9
      That's really +100500.
      If they scream that everything was gone, he did everything right wink
    2. roma-belij
      roma-belij 9 July 2013 16: 43 New
      +5
      Now you just need to be silent and calmly continue modernization and rearmament, let them all choke there)))
  • buzuke
    buzuke 9 July 2013 07: 28 New
    +15
    "why Russia is building up its missile defense system, and why we are allowing them to do this," the American statesman is indignant.

    they’ve already completely lost their pedals; they live in some kind of reality of their own. still we would ask permission from someone
    1. Metlik
      Metlik 9 July 2013 08: 16 New
      +21
      The mattresses have withdrawn from the ABM treaty, they put anti-ballistic missiles at our border, and at the same time they are outraged that we are strengthening the defense of our own capital. Diagnosis - The epidemic of schizophrenia in Washington clinics is intensifying.
      1. OTTO
        OTTO 9 July 2013 08: 59 New
        +4
        Insolence is of course the second happiness ... but not so much. They seriously thought that they would always play "giveaways" with them?
      2. Ulan
        Ulan 9 July 2013 15: 33 New
        +2
        That's it. This gentleman in striped trousers, a top hat and a goatee (Uncle Sam), modestly "forgot" that it was the United States that was the first to withdraw from the ABM treaty.
        And what do they want? That they withdraw from the ABM Treaty, and we continue to abide by it? Amazing arrogance and hypocrisy.
    2. Stiletto
      Stiletto 9 July 2013 09: 07 New
      +12
      Kogshmar! Nightmare! Russian scoundrels do not want to bomb! They have the audacity to strengthen their air defense and missile defense! This undermines the foundations of democracy !!!

      Good morning everyone!
      1. Apologet.Ru
        Apologet.Ru 9 July 2013 10: 24 New
        +12
        hi

        Russian scoundrels do not want to bomb! They have the audacity to strengthen their air defense and missile defense! This undermines the foundations of democracy !!!


        And that’s not all - they also don’t want to get homosexual, villains am .
    3. dustycat
      dustycat 9 July 2013 11: 48 New
      +3
      So it is ..
      They have long been living in a program where they have the default god mode.
      It’s true that all the time, some kind of Russian (Indian, Chinese, Malaysian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, or their own) hackers get into it, or just glitches of the program .. But all the time, successfully defeating one technologically developed state with a 100% guarantee does not work. Even if you turn off the return fire.
  • waisson
    waisson 9 July 2013 07: 30 New
    +7
    LET THREAKERS AND FOOT BOURGEINS WANTED
  • nikolas 83
    nikolas 83 9 July 2013 07: 34 New
    +9
    The Americans have already imposed their pants. Russia is rearming. It is not necessary for them to make concessions as Gorbachev and Yeltsin did. Still, the BZHRK needs to be restored.
    1. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 9 July 2013 09: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: nikolas 83
      Another BZHRK need to be restored.

      In order to restore these complexes, it is necessary to restore the railway track. It is badly launched. In the USSR, it was constantly being repaired, but now it is just being operated on a scam. In some sections of the road, it’s not at all very good. Imagine that such a car capsize ?!
      1. Nitup
        Nitup 9 July 2013 09: 48 New
        +7
        Quote: Oleg147741
        In order to restore these complexes, it is necessary to restore the railway track. It is badly launched. In the USSR, it was constantly being repaired, but now it is just being operated on a scam. In some sections of the road, it’s not at all very good. Imagine that such a car capsize ?!

        And why do you think Putin allocated money for the reconstruction of the BAM and the Trans-Siberian Railway?
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 9 July 2013 18: 48 New
          +3
          Quote: Nitup
          Putin allocated money for the reconstruction of the BAM and the Trans-Siberian Railway?


          A new tunnel was struck on the Trans-Siberian Railway drinks
          http://www.vesti.ru/only_video.html?vid=521081
    2. 0255
      0255 9 July 2013 13: 48 New
      +3
      it’s kind of being restored
    3. Ulan
      Ulan 9 July 2013 15: 39 New
      +2
      It is imperative to restore the BZHRK. The new liquid ICBM to replace the "Satan" is already being designed by the Makeyevites, and there was infa that the development of the new BZHRK complex is already underway. It is apparently at the stage of the technical task.
      Apart from bad words, nothing comes to mind about Gorbi and Yeltsin. Betrayal to the highest degree.
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 9 July 2013 07: 39 New
    +3
    Intrigued by the signature of the first photo.
    1. skrgar
      skrgar 9 July 2013 09: 27 New
      +7
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      Intrigued by the signature of the first photo.

      Yeah! This "weirdo mabama" is afraid to talk with Putin already ..- writes notes !! laughing
    2. Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru 9 July 2013 10: 16 New
      +2
      hi Here p.indosovskie spies rejoice ...
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 9 July 2013 11: 35 New
        +3
        Comrades, I was intrigued by Ent's signature
        Advanced missile defense complex C-500
        But, in the course of +, because I'm wildly disgusting and "Crank Mabama" и P. Indosovsky Spies ZY Every day I live my quiet, happy life, rejoice at the sun, and in my head the “file” popped up like a fragment of a mine --- and in it are indirect methods of the US war against my country. A radically islamic pedal: appearances, addresses, passwords. In general yes ............ How do you want to be an infantryman drinks
        1. Apologet.Ru
          Apologet.Ru 9 July 2013 18: 27 New
          0
          hi

          .How I want to be an infantryman


          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 9 July 2013 21: 04 New
            +6
            The minus is not mine, but plus the end, and the clip is more likely entot fits my attitude soldier
  • Vanek
    Vanek 9 July 2013 07: 43 New
    +6
    At least we are not fighting in two dozen countries.
  • Ivan79
    Ivan79 9 July 2013 07: 44 New
    +4
    If something doesn’t fly there, it doesn’t knock down ... What do we have to do with it? Everything that flies is knocking down at us.
    smile Are they afraid of us? And it is right!
  • krasin
    krasin 9 July 2013 07: 45 New
    +6
    Russia is also developing and introducing a new generation of long-range missiles, more modernized than any available in the United States, and American missiles will not be able to match them, at least in the next two decades. "

    Two decades you can sleep peacefully! ABM to develop and put on duty.
    I don’t like it. Under Yeltsin, the missile defense system was destroyed, they wanted to keep us as puppets
    HERE HERE THEM!
    1. Airman
      Airman 9 July 2013 10: 31 New
      +6
      Quote: krasin

      Two decades you can sleep peacefully! ABM to develop and put on duty.
      I don’t like it. Under Yeltsin, the missile defense system was destroyed, they wanted to keep us as puppets
      HERE HERE THEM!

      You can’t sleep peacefully, the enemy is not asleep! Air defense needs to be CONSTANTLY improved, and the fact that even the Americans have recognized our air defense BEST is pleasing to me.
    2. Ulan
      Ulan 9 July 2013 15: 42 New
      +1
      Under Yeltsin and Gorbi they really liked us. They praised us ... slammed on the shoulder. As Comrade Stalin said, they haven’t been scolding us for a long time in the West. Are we doing everything right?
  • askort154
    askort154 9 July 2013 07: 47 New
    +20
    So everything went well - Gorbachev with Shevarnadze, Yeltsin with Kozyrev ... and suddenly,
    where doesn’t come from - Putin and Lavrov. It turns out at the whales, "point"
    not so "iron" as they represent it to the whole World.
    1. Dmitry 2246
      Dmitry 2246 9 July 2013 10: 58 New
      0
      North Americans should have a firm belief in the destruction of their armed forces in cases of intersection with our interests anywhere in the world.
      This will be fair and will increase the sale of our weapons.
    2. krasin
      krasin 9 July 2013 17: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: askort154
      So everything went well - Gorbachev with Shevarnadze, Yeltsin with Kozyrev ... and suddenly,
      where doesn’t come from - Putin and Lavrov. It turns out at the whales, "point"
      not so "iron" as they represent it to the whole World.

      Point is leaky!
  • 77bob1973
    77bob1973 9 July 2013 07: 47 New
    +1
    Now, if in if the US missile defense advanced positions are placed in Europe, then this is nothing special. Will there still be when ours will withdraw from the INF Treaty.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 9 July 2013 09: 56 New
      +3
      At one time, our military was the initiator of the INF. Flight time to Washington is about 30 minutes anyway, and from Germany / Italy to Moscow - 3-5 minutes. From the INF Treaty in Europe - it’s definitely worse for us (because they don’t give a damn to the European capitals of the USA - they will easily sacrifice wink )
      1. Ulan
        Ulan 9 July 2013 15: 47 New
        0
        And we will easily sacrifice Europe. If we have an RMND. Does Europe want this? Of course it does not want it, because the United States is casting fishing rods to start negotiations on reducing and eliminating the tactical Ya.O. America. They have nothing to fear, so they don’t bother about themselves but about the allies in Europe.
        Deprive Russia of the tactical Ya.O. to make her defenseless in a European theater. And in conventional weapons in Europe, NATO has an overwhelming advantage.
  • 3030
    3030 9 July 2013 07: 58 New
    +16
    "when it was believed that missile defense was not just legal, but necessary to protect priority values and population"
    In general, how dare they try to protect the population from possible democratic bombing and missile strikes !!! am
  • nokki
    nokki 9 July 2013 07: 59 New
    +11
    "why Russia is building up its missile defense system, and why we are allowing them to do this," the American statesman is indignant.


    The impudence and impudence of Americans - are unlimited !!!
  • Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 9 July 2013 08: 02 New
    +4
    “If things go on like this, Russia will force us to disarm our defense, disarm our offensive weapons and will simply disgrace us”

    This is the only thing that should be done with the USA — for a short time after the disappearance of the USSR, the USA HAS SUCCESSFULLY UNCHARGE A FEW WARS and come close to the borders of RUSSIA.
    Their next step is LOGIC-PREPARATION FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF RUSSIA.


    Therefore, it is simply vital to prepare our state for a possible war with NATO and the USA. (In what form it will be known to God alone)
  • Smersh
    Smersh 9 July 2013 08: 04 New
    +2
    Everything goes according to plan, well thought out plan
  • 77bor1973
    77bor1973 9 July 2013 08: 04 New
    +2
    Indeed, how dare we build up our missile defense, how dare we even occupy so much space on earth — all American efforts are “ashes”.
  • GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 9 July 2013 08: 06 New
    +5
    Powell: US withdrawal from ABM treaty won't lead to arms race

    The US decision to withdraw from the ABM Treaty will not lead to a new arms race. This statement was made by US Secretary of State Colin Powell, while emphasizing that Russia's reaction to the US decision indicates that it "does not consider itself to be at risk." Powell also noted that the United States and Russia consider it important for themselves to “go forward” in the field of reducing offensive nuclear weapons and to continue negotiations, including on formalizing these steps. // ITAR-TASS laughing laughing laughing
  • VadimSt
    VadimSt 9 July 2013 08: 10 New
    +5
    At least silence, at least the noise of the links of one chain - show the process of "militarization" of Russia and stir up the world community. True, they forget that the military budget of Russia in the 2013 year is $ 71,200,780,000, and the United States $ 549,900,000,000. Here is such arithmetic!
  • wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac 9 July 2013 08: 24 New
    +7
    the difference between the Russian and American missile defense systems is in the scope. Russian missile defense provides target destruction within a radius of 500 km. from the location of the PU, i.e. already on their territory, the Americans set their sights on the acceleration section, i.e. to defeat the target even on the territory of the enemy. at the same time, I can’t understand what legally binding treaties of non-directivity against the Russian Federation mean, American missile defense locators are capable of penetrating up to 5000 km. territories (they wrote, I don’t know if it’s true or not) What, they hang the contract in front of the locator so that it cannot see the territory of the Russian Federation? wink
    1. Gregazov
      Gregazov 9 July 2013 08: 44 New
      +4
      In order for the locator to "shine through" 450 km, it must be raised to a height of 10 km. I will not give further arithmetic. Over-the-horizon radars have low accuracy for targeting a weapon (missile, projectile). It is possible to target carriers of weapons of destruction having their own radar, however, due to the length of this process, it is unacceptable in the task of intercepting a missile. Then all super-ranges can work only in the line of sight, i.e. over your territory.
      1. Nitup
        Nitup 9 July 2013 09: 52 New
        0
        Quote: GregAzov
        In order for the locator to "shine through" 450 km, it must be raised to a height of 10 km.

        Radar S-400 shines from the ground at a distance of about 600 km
        1. Airman
          Airman 9 July 2013 11: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: Nitup
          Quote: GregAzov
          In order for the locator to "shine through" 450 km, it must be raised to a height of 10 km.

          Radar S-400 shines from the ground at a distance of about 600 km


          But only at an altitude of more than 10 km. According to the NLC, the detection range is not more than 50-60 km.
          1. KazaK Bo
            KazaK Bo 9 July 2013 22: 15 New
            0
            Quote: Povshnik
            But only at an altitude of more than 10 km. According to the NLC, the detection range is not more than 50-60 km.

            Why fixate on air targets ... we are talking about missile defense. ICBMs will not fly at altitudes of 100m with enveloping terrain. Here from these positions and let's talk ...
      2. dustycat
        dustycat 9 July 2013 10: 45 New
        +4
        It is not necessary to raise the radar high to see the rising target.
        She herself goes to direct line of sight at an ever greater range.
        As the rocket rises, it is in direct line of sight from an ever-increasing range.
        And if the zagorizontnik noticed the start in a curious square, then it is enough to bring the rocket to the rendezvous point in advance. Next, she will finish herself.
        This is how the missile defense system actually located in Poland works.
        Whoever whistles there.
        Hence its great danger - for the estimated estimated time before the attack they can be raised to the interception zone, from where they attack the response take-off rockets.
        Therefore, this missile defense station is a clear means of attacking Russia, and not a defense against Iran. Anti-Iran missile defense should be deployed in Turkey. The Yankees have a base of such a profile there.
        At the launch site, the missile is very limited in maneuver (it is not fast and heavy) and therefore it is easier to intercept. After launching a missile defense, it is useless to destroy its launch pad.
        Iskander becomes only an expensive means of complacency.

        PS: By the way. From the windows of the nine-story building in the Davydovsky district in Kostroma, the GRES pipe in Volgorechensk is very clearly visible against the horizon. You can measure the distance on Googlemap yourself.
        1. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 9 July 2013 14: 15 New
          0
          Quote: dustycat
          It is not necessary to raise the radar high to see the rising target.
          She herself goes to direct line of sight at an ever greater range.

          good drinks soldier
        2. Hauser
          Hauser 9 July 2013 15: 21 New
          +3
          Regarding the Iskander, I do not quite agree. Regardless of whether or not it is possible to neutralize the enemy’s missile defense systems, the places of their deployment will undergo devastating blows (to put it mildly), along with the infrastructure, nearby villages, towns and cities. Only here the inhabitants of these settlements do not imagine it well. And after all, suko, no one can explain this to them! Losing again in the information war ?!
    2. dustycat
      dustycat 9 July 2013 10: 51 New
      +1
      500 km is a missile defense area limited according to the ABM Treaty.
      The actual range is a little less.
      Four missile defense stations cover the Moscow missile defense zone around the circle.
      Long-range (near-horizon for the Moscow missile defense) detection is provided by missile defense radar stations located along the borders.
      I still remember how many screams of mattresses were in the mid-1980s about the missile defense radar near Krasnoyarsk. Misha blew her up.
      Although she was more in the way of China.
    3. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 9 July 2013 22: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: wasjasibirjac
      however, I cannot understand what legally binding contracts mean

      You very clearly noted that the main task of Amer is to get our RSN at the starting acceleration - and the speed is still not great ... and infrared radiation from the engine plume is maximum ... and, most importantly, the warheads have not scattered across the horizon ... And our task to deflect their missile defense as far as possible .... And what they’re watching ... little joy, a lot of trouble, but ... now everything can already be viewed ... and from the ground up to 400 km along the CC, up to 5000 km along the orbital and ballistic targets ... and from air up to 500 for air targets ... and from space - everywhere. The adoption and signing of the agreements has the goal of stopping the placement of launching positions near our borders and exposing the lies of the Amer, that their missile defense at positions in Poland, with a range of destruction of up to 200 km, are intended against missiles of the DPRK.
  • bomg.77
    bomg.77 9 July 2013 08: 33 New
    +6
    The scales began to lean in favor of Russia. They didn’t want to exist in a friendly manner with mutual respect, then don’t blame Russia! Putin, just squeeze them, do not loosen your grip.
  • Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 9 July 2013 08: 41 New
    +5
    “If things go on like this, Russia will force us to disarm our defense, disarm our offensive weapons and simply disgrace us,”

    Yes, a mismatch however! Amer hoped that we will calmly watch how they sharpen a knife, and work out plans for disarmament strikes.
    But the victim turned out to be with his fists! It is able to repel an attack by the IOS and write "run-through" in response. How discouraging! I wanted as always: calmly bomb and hegemonize further. And here's the bad luck: they have the best anti-aircraft defense systems in the world, and even the arrogant ones are upgrading their strategic nuclear forces, they are developing new types of weapons, so they want us to "SIMPLY DISEASE!"
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  • lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 9 July 2013 08: 53 New
    +4
    Russia will force us to disarm our defense, disarm our offensive weapons and will simply disgrace us, ”he adds.

    Yes, they themselves have already been disgraced by the least indulge.
    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov confronted the deployment of a missile defense system in Belarus with a violation of the agreement on restricting NATO expansion in 1990.

    Correctly. you’ll have to answer for your words, let alone actions
  • tomas.09
    tomas.09 9 July 2013 08: 54 New
    +1
    Americans after these statements look soft, white and fluffy. Well, just bunnies. Grandfather Mazay is just not enough !!!
  • dojjdik
    dojjdik 9 July 2013 08: 58 New
    +2
    and the military budget because the states have about 600bn because we swallowed Libyan and Iraqi oil with our ears; and soon we’ll slam the Iranian one (although maybe we’ll change our minds)
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 9 July 2013 10: 08 New
      +2
      Already slammed.
      The Chinese are already building a railroad through Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, and Tajikistan.
      It’s very convenient to transport pipes for the construction of pipelines by rail. You can immediately import 200 meter lashes. And along the railway, laying the pipeline is very convenient.
  • Natalia
    Natalia 9 July 2013 09: 03 New
    +8
    The Americans always "catch the clouds" in order to shake money out of the budget for any weapons or the possibility of deploying such weapons. If they say that they say the Russians are terrible and terrible, we should be afraid of them, then gentlemen, dear ones, should not be led to this, they have always scared their people with the Soviet Union, now they are trying to Russia, but all this propaganda is nothing more than systematic pumping money out of the budget.
    1. mark1
      mark1 9 July 2013 09: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Natalia
      The Americans always "catch the clouds" in order to shake money out of the budget for any weapons or the possibility of deploying such weapons. If they say that they say the Russians are terrible and terrible, we should be afraid of them, then gentlemen, dear ones, do not have to be led to this,

      That's right, something like that and I wanted to say. Do not flatter yourself that someone is afraid of our missile defense system, it simply does not exist (except for the missile defense system of the central region, and even that was built according to the patterns of the 70s, with nuclear warheads (God forbid such "protection")
      Americans primarily solve their problems using
      we are like a scarecrow.
      Remarochka - S-300, S-400 is not a missile defense system, it is an air defense missile defense system with the possibility of limited interception from the BR. No one has ever seen the S-500 alive - 18-20 years, this is the real term.
  • pippo
    pippo 9 July 2013 09: 22 New
    +3
    Quote: Igor39
    If the West is so worried, then Putin is doing everything right.

    Not necessarily, maybe the West just began to mow under the fool.
  • Wedmak
    Wedmak 9 July 2013 09: 25 New
    +4
    The Kremlin is returning to Soviet times when it was believed that missile defense was not only legal, but necessary to protect priority values ​​and the population

    Whose is that? Yesterday there was an article about the 4000 KR issued in Russia (in a large and well-armed country, as it was written there) and capable of knocking out 6-80% of its objects in 90 hours. And after a day, we were screaming, how is it, everything is bad, we do, we do tomahawks, we try, and bad Russians are building up air defense! It is simply amazing how these senators do not see a huge log in their eye!
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 9 July 2013 10: 04 New
      +2
      But they see very well how many billions of dollars can be squeezed out of the budget of the mattress with this sauce.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 9 July 2013 10: 11 New
        +1
        But they see very well how many billions of dollars can be squeezed out of the budget of the mattress with this sauce.

        Well, here these figures are ahead of the rest.
  • SASCHAmIXEEW
    SASCHAmIXEEW 9 July 2013 09: 39 New
    +4
    We must seek the conclusion of an agreement on the deployment of nuclear weapons, ONLY in its territory !!!!!
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 9 July 2013 10: 01 New
      0
      Mattresses have already recognized that this is technically impossible in view of the big legal problems.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 9 July 2013 10: 12 New
        +4
        impossible due to big legal problems.

        Bullshit. When did legal problems stop the US? And when did they follow their promises, international law?
  • bistrov.
    bistrov. 9 July 2013 09: 55 New
    +2
    The nostalgia of Americans for the recent, I hope, already sunk times, when the Yeltsin government acted under the dictation of American advisers, cut strategic planes and missiles, and destroyed with such difficulty created advanced production facilities. But the Americans themselves did not waste time in vain, built nuclear submarines, the Aegis missile defense cruiser, etc. They don’t like talking on equal terms, they like from a position of strength.
    1. alexng
      alexng 9 July 2013 11: 02 New
      +4
      Quote: bistrov.
      They do not like to speak on equal terms, they love from a position of strength.


      And they don’t like to talk at all, they like to only dictate. The USA is a character from Carnival Night, a kind of Cucumbers, in all its glory with a dull and brazen face.
  • dustycat
    dustycat 9 July 2013 10: 00 New
    +2
    Here you go..
    And then some started here "Aegis is super impenetrable", "Patritot is still super", "Iron sky is actually wow," "David’s sling is really nowhere steeper" ....
    But the truth is, here she is ...
    Also, "senior officials of the administration" will have to pay extra for advertising C300, C400 and C500.
    They have only been brought to the state order, and already a squeal like "kill kill" how much.
  • lotar
    lotar 9 July 2013 10: 07 New
    +1
    In my opinion, it’s a very common situation when the Americans turn everything upside down. Considering that these systems are only going to be introduced in our country, and they have this long-standing process, it’s nothing more than a badly played tantrum, but at the same time it has a good chance to trigger ordinary Americans to mass hysteria regarding our homeland.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 9 July 2013 10: 15 New
      +1
      having a good chance to spur ordinary Americans to mass hysteria regarding our homeland.

      Hardly ... ordinary Americans are just the same very adequate people. And they are already very dissatisfied with the foreign policy of their state. But this discontent does not go to the media. And it won’t come out for a long time.
  • Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 9 July 2013 10: 22 New
    +7
    Quote: MIKHAN
    They do not like !!! It's only the beginning..

    -can be a huge / 2 kilometers-by 3 size / portrait of Novodvorskaya put on the west. the border of the Russian Federation. Any rocket will turn back, and the pilots will catacult wassat
    1. Naval
      Naval 9 July 2013 21: 42 New
      0
      Well, it’s impossible to be so cruel, it’s worse than chemical and bacteriological weapons taken together, there are Geneva Conventions in the end. wink
  • Andriasov
    Andriasov 9 July 2013 10: 29 New
    0
    ..as the US leadership began to understand that it smells fried, they immediately offered information about the missile defense system in Europe in exchange for information about our missile defense, but I don’t know what you can think of in order to stick to it ..
  • pensioner
    pensioner 9 July 2013 10: 48 New
    0
    And it's nice to read like that! Where are the psheks? Why not hear? Have you forgotten how to sponsor the owner?
  • IRBIS
    IRBIS 9 July 2013 10: 57 New
    0
    "" If things go on and on, Russia will force us to disarm our defense, disarm our offensive weapons and simply disgrace us ... "
    That’s how it goes. For it should be so. Looking at the "tricks" of the American "partners" in the world, we simply must strengthen our defenses. And there is nothing strange about this. And about the "disgrace", so the States themselves are disgraced already for the whole world with their gestures to spread "democracy." And without our participation.
  • Alexandr73
    Alexandr73 9 July 2013 11: 12 New
    +1
    And you’re used to it: Report to the President: "Mr. President, over our oil fields, some residents and countries have been discovered." The President - "Bomb and evict" The Speaker - "they don’t want to evict, the residents and the anti-aircraft defense have."
  • Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 9 July 2013 11: 12 New
    0
    Arms control proponents argue that missile defense violates strategic stability and complicates efforts to reduce strategic offensive weapons. But if this is so, "why Russia is building up its missile defense system, and why we allow them to do this," the American statesman is indignant.

    They started singing. Who asked to withdraw from the ABM Treaty. Although of course, such a crap
    rises when some money they want to squeeze. But one does not exclude the other.
  • Alex
    Alex 9 July 2013 11: 28 New
    +2
    Interesting metamorphoses. At the turn of the 60-70s, the Americans persuaded the USSR and convinced that the missile defense destabilizes the situation, as it gives rise to the illusion of security and the temptation of a nuclear strike. Thus, missile defense is not a defense, but a real means of attack. Not even 30 years have passed since the United States withdrew from the ABM limitation treaty. And the arguments are the same as they refuted 30 years ago - this is not a means of attack, it is a means of defense.
  • xmike
    xmike 9 July 2013 11: 31 New
    +2
    Yes, not everything is so simple, sorry, but the article is for hamsters. The United States has tremendous superiority in conventional weapons, not counting its NATO allies. Nuclear disarmament of Russia is not profitable at the moment and in the foreseeable future.
  • pluton
    pluton 9 July 2013 11: 37 New
    0
    Something I did not understand in the picture
    Advanced missile defense complex C-500

    This is where they came from - is this the real S-500 in the photo? C-500 seems to be just being developed, so where is the photo from? Apparently this is not the S-500.
    1. lesnik.
      lesnik. 9 July 2013 14: 16 New
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      Quote: pluton
      Something I did not understand in the picture
      Advanced missile defense complex C-500

      This is where they came from - is this the real S-500 in the photo? C-500 seems to be just being developed, so where is the photo from? Apparently this is not the S-500.

      No, this is a real S-400
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 9 July 2013 11: 41 New
    +3
    1.
    Quote: Yuri I.
    Who asked to withdraw from the ABM Treaty.

    2.But if this is so, "why Russia is building up its missile defense system, and why we are allowing them to do this," the American statesman is indignant - it turns out they can. But we can’t ...

    The events of recent years, when the 2008 crisis undermined the economies of developed countries (it is still stagnating), shows that overseas "partners and associates" do not want any multipolar world. To achieve the goals, “all progressive humanity” has already taken the accelerated path of DESTABILIZATION of all institutions - economic (Cyprus), diplomatic (Snowden + Morales plane), propaganda (not counted, but now a run over to the Olympics in Sochi has begun), environmental (suffering ecology in the production of shale gas, the transition from natural gas to coal).
    Add to this Frankenstein, raised under the false banner of a prophet - in ruin Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, the war in Syria, a tough mess in Egypt.
    Only the blind will not make a conclusion from what is happening.
  • Tartary
    Tartary 9 July 2013 12: 30 New
    +4
    Well, the screech of brave and proud American guys brought to our shores ...

    Previously, they kept quiet more and more, when missile defense systems in Europe were piled up unceremoniously ... But, it was before the Iskanders ... They did not believe to see that Russia would bristle quickly ...

    Who is stopping them from putting their missiles at home in the United States ?? Well, the friendly states of the two Americas?
    Yes, and in Africa, please, who does not? request
    What are you on the continent of Eurasia?

    Nehru now whine and make the eyes of a shredding dog ...
    Let's go to the stump, insolent two-faced Whine yourself, but rather whimper on the quiet there in your own Americas ... lol
  • maxcor1974
    maxcor1974 9 July 2013 12: 59 New
    +1
    The hawthorn stirred. Now slogans from the time of the 70-80x about the Russian military threat, the "evil empire", etc. Under this you can cut money from the rubber of the American budget.
    And in general, what kind of reset can we talk about when the sweet dream of “hawks” like McCain and Co. is Russia lying in ruins. And as soon as they are one hundred percent sure that the first blow will destroy 80-90% of our nuclear potential, they will strike immediately. And then our missile defense system suddenly pops up ... "It’s not good, not fair, it upsets the balance of power !!!" - the same "peacekeepers" who several years ago voted for the United States to withdraw from the ABM treaty begin to scream. So the situation with double standards is again in the face, what the states are doing - others are “impossible” ...
    So you need to do everything possible to drive into stupid American heads that there will be a retaliatory strike and it will blow 80-90% of the USA, so that even in a terrible dream they would not have the thought of total superiority ...
  • Passer
    Passer 9 July 2013 13: 18 New
    +5
    The S-300 and S-400 are primarily anti-aircraft systems designed to destroy aerodynamic targets, its other functions (including the possibility of hitting ballistic targets) are secondary. Based on the logic of the Americans, the next time they and the AK-74 will be called the anti-aircraft system, because and from it, theoretically, one can hit an air target (and they will demand more money from Congress to provide the Air Force with new protection against AK-74). In this case, the statements of the Americans accusing us of installing defensive systems on their territory are similar to the crook’s complaints that new locks and doors were installed in the house he wanted to rob.
  • 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 9 July 2013 13: 26 New
    0
    The most interesting thing is that there is no intelligible pro in the US, they also hope for their Aegis.
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 9 July 2013 13: 28 New
    +1
    how amusing this choir of evil hamsters amuses me. and all such as one are perplexed, do not sleep, do not eat, do not shit, and sit - perplexed ...
    but what is asked ??? you are our enemies, we will always be happy for your death and will do everything possible so as not to die from you. everything is just like a door ...
    In addition, we do not set s-300,400,500 in Cuba, in Venezuela, Bolivia ...
    by the way in Cyprus could be put. and still there would be a radar like Voronezh, in combination with the Air Force base and the fleet cover in Tartus, in general there would be beauty. Our Mediterranean Sea ...
    5 yues navy fleet will only be able to wet its feathers near the hybrid ... if it doesn't get rid of it ... brave cowboys damn it ... i imagine yues marins' shiny asses in the VSS optics of our airborne forces ... if they were crazy in a collision ...
    shorter suffered me, comrades.
  • shark
    shark 9 July 2013 14: 49 New
    +2
    What a funny logic the guys from Washington have. Their weapons of a defensive nature, and even located on our territory, are troubled. Maybe they would like us to surrender all the hunting reeds and slingshots to them. And we lived quietly relying on America's honest word. It’s not funny! This is our country, here are our orders!