US drone destroyed 17 man in Pakistan

On Wednesday, the Pakistani tribal region of North Waziristan was attacked by the US Air Force. As a result of the attack, 17 people were killed and two were injured. The identity of the victims is still unknown. According to preliminary data, militants of the Afghan terrorist group Haqqani Network were among the dead. This is the second air strike in the last month. drones in Pakistan.

The American drone fired four missiles at a building near the market town of Miranshah in North Waziristan.

A new drone strike has once again complicated relations between Washington and Islamabad. “The Government of Pakistan constantly claims that the attacks drones counterproductive, causing civilian deaths and violating human rights,” The Huffington Post quoted the Pakistani Foreign Ministry as saying.

In the period from June 5, when Navaz Sharif became the head of the Pakistani government, this is the second air strike on Waziristan using the UAV.

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[experienced]

Amer on figs, whom to "kill", the operator, as in another computer shooter, simply confused the target, we follow the continuation of the quest

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: seasoned

Amer on figs, whom "to wet

I do not understand, but is this not a war crime on the part of the United States. Hello, Pangisrun, where are you with your UN ?????

[fzr1000]

It’s known where, in New York City. He who feeds the girl dances her.

[experienced]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I do not understand, but is this not a war crime on the part of the United States. Hello, Pangisrun, where are you with your UN ?????

Sanya, do not wake up at the UN, but on the site

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: seasoned

Sanya, do not wake up at the UN, but on the site

Yes, I know, but if we were gasping for civilians, now the amers would convene an urgent UN meeting. It is also necessary to collect and condemn them, let them sit there and make excuses. Recently, all G sticks to them.

[Scoun]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

amers gathered an urgent meeting of the UN. Also need to collect and condemn them let them sit there and make excuses. Recent times all G sticks to them.

Yes, nothing sticks to them because they themselves are made of G (G + G =Г) they even ceased to be embarrassed, what to say if the Bolivian president’s plane was deceived in violation of the Vienna Conventions ... but this is the same thing if we took it now and an embassy like Yusei would be searched, in fact, this would be the beginning of the war ... .and these make excuses that oh oh did not know that this is Board number 1

[GSH-18]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Recently, all G sticks to them.

Apparently it loves amers lately ..

[experienced]

Quote: seasoned

Sanya, do not wake up at the UN, but on the site

Hi all, Forced to write a post by someone under the nickname Algor73. He, as he thought, "quietly" missed my completely neutral comments ... I sent him a personal question "Why minus?" I didn’t wait for an answer ... Well, these "tihushniki" got me and I introduce "execution on the spot" in relation to their martial law
Algora sacrifice the rest of the rats
I will not specifically minus on past comments, but everything that catches my eye will be "shocked"

[IRBIS]

Quote: seasoned

Algora sacrifice the rest of the rats

Alexey, I am categorically against insulting rats. This is a smart and very grateful animal! I ask you, in tribute to the rat that lived with me and died in June, do not offend them!
Moreover, there are many types indicated by you. Pay no attention to them. We gather here for fellowship, and they "stars" earn money forgetting that vanity is a sin.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: IRBIS

. This is a smart and very grateful animal!

Hi Sanya! With rats to the Mechanic, he is a lover of rats

[IRBIS]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Hi Sanya! With rats to the Mechanic, he is a lover of rats

Hello namesake! Does the "mechanic" breed them?

[experienced]

Quote: IRBIS

I am categorically against insulting rats. This is a smart and very grateful animal! I ask you, in tribute to the rat that lived with me and died in June, do not offend them!

I apologize for the unjustified insult to animals Just gonna put it out

[Scoun]

Quote: seasoned

He, as he thought, "quietly" missed my completely neutral comments ...

Sorry to interrupt .. just um .......
In general, who silently puts a comment, plus those also "quiet"?
As an example, today, under the nickname S-Mirnov, I caught 24 minuses in one post
and what should everyone explain for what? also with pluses .. everyone should explain why? the forum will be filled up with flood.

S_mirnov (2) Today, 09:48 ↑
“It all depends on who is running into you and what kind of roof you have” - the bandits have a roof, we have an army.
Thank God we do not have CIA agents in Russia! All FSB and ours caught!
Now they are all in Moscow sitting in the Kremlin!
Of course, it is very important for our citizens what happened there in Europe with the Morales plane. It is strange why this journalist is not discussing the topic of a clearly political order for Urlashov?
Here a brave man spoke at the rally:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfKVvd_lM9s
and they quickly sewed a deal! and not in Europe, but here at home! But Misha Leontev is more concerned about the Morales plane - you can talk about him freely, but beware about Urlashev!

That's what the forum users had to answer him? that Leont'ev did not catch the importance of Urlashov for a person under the nickname S_mirnov or that in general an article about something else is being discussed and expressed on the article ...
or for example, a person with a nickname (took the closest with the pluses at the moment 22)

Alexander Romanov Today, 09:41 ↑
Quote: seasoned
Amer on figs, whom "to wet
I do not understand, but is it not military US crime. Hello, where are you with your UN???

It would seem that something informative ... but the people pledged for the fact that they agree that the United Nations is "dancing" the United States, and there is nothing to say about the pangisrun .. a body that sometimes opens its mouth ... and we already have a nickname for it tightly ..
PS.
IMHA. don't react so much to it ..
Personally, when I see (example) atalef writes that they have blah blah UAVs in Israel and we don’t even have a gravitational gear .. I’m generally unpleasant that we have worse things to do with this business and we are catching up. .. but still, if he is right .. and comment on the topic, I put a plus and read on

[experienced]

Quote: Scoun

Sorry to interrupt .. just um .......

I put you a minus, so that from now on they would not get into someone else's showdown. If you do not understand the difference between the minuses and pluses of comments, then sit straight People quietly prominuced and got hemorrhage in my face, but why should you harness it? S_mirnov adequate forum member and for himself will be able to say

[INTER]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I do not understand, but is it not a war crime on the part of the United States

No Alexander)))) This is democracy, human rights, though they only consider themselves to be people and protect their rights.) And PANGI and its UN are a clownish office under the tsar)

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: INTER

This is democracy

Clearly, the more you kill, the more democratic you are. Now it’s clear why a scumbag from Africa, killing 400 people, was granted asylum in England

[INTER]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Clearly, the more you kill, the more democratic you are. Now it’s clear why a scumbag from Africa, killing 400 people, was granted asylum in England

As in a lesson with children of the 6th grade:
-Now children you have mastered the basics of democracy
-Soviet Union freed its country from world fascism, then the country
-right dictatorship
-Americans occupied and cleansed the territory of all living things, but these living creatures were parasites and fed on humanity and now they have unbearable pipes for their search and destruction around the world, you see how good they are. Liberators, Freeders, Law Givers
-so who they are, rightly the children of the capitalists, free-livers, defenders of rights and freedoms.

[Denis]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Hello, Pangisrun, where are you with your UN ?????

Pangisrun, as always, regrets ...

[INTER]

Quote: Denis

Pangisrun, as always, regrets ...

++++++++++++++

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Denis

Pangisrun, as always, regrets ..

Who, your bank account?

[self-propelled]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I do not understand, but is this not a war crime on the part of the United States. Hello, Pangisrun, where are you with your UN ?????

Yes, they put on the UN and others like them

after this video something changed? Well, the "world community" made some noise. So what?

[Dmitry 2246]

There should be no illusions.
Operators, like snipers, should not be taken prisoner.
There is a gap between the soldier and the killer.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

But isn't this a war crime on the part of the United States.

According to the publication of the Long War Journal, which monitors the statistics on the use of drone UAVs, American flying robots attacked various targets located on the territory of Pakistan in 2008 - 35 times, in 2010 - 117 times, in 2011 - 64 times and 46 times during 2012 of the year. The vast majority of such operations are carried out by the CIA as part of a program to prevent potential terrorist attacks against American citizens. According to Ben Emmerson, the death of civilians during the use of shock UAVs can be equated with war crimes. According to the British Bureau of Journalistic Investigations, from June 2004 to September 2012 in Pakistan, up to 3325 people were killed as a result of UAV air strikes, of which up to 881 were civilians, including 176 children.

[Zhilan_kz]

In the world there is only one right - the right of the strong, God forbid that we become weak!

[evgenii67]

Hello everyone!

Quote: seasoned

Amer on figs, whom to "kill", the operator, as in another computer shooter, simply confused the target, we follow the continuation of the quest

And Pakistan, an Islamic state with a population of over 190 million hours, is bigger than in Russia, a country that possesses nuclear weapons, and the Pakistani authorities only whine occasionally "The Pakistani government constantly claims that drone attacks are counterproductive, bring civilian casualties and violate human rights." In fact, frankly speaking, the Americans kill Pakistani citizens (mostly peaceful) in Pakistan and this is normal for them all.

[The shelezyak]

Remember how they turned off French air defense at Gaddafi?
So nuclear amer’s will not take off against the owners, something like that.

[Black Colonel]

Saddam’s radars were turned off, too, by the way, French.

[sergey261180]

Quote: evgenii67

And Pakistan, an Islamic state with a population of over 190 million hours, is bigger than in Russia, a country that possesses nuclear weapons, and the Pakistani authorities only whine occasionally

This is an occasion to think about our nuclear weapons. No weapon will save if the authorities sold to America or London.

[GSH-18]

Damn, we would have such drones. Amer engineers in this regard well done.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: seasoned

Amer on figs, whom to "kill", the operator, as in another computer shooter, simply confused the target, we follow the continuation of the quest

I don’t understand another thing: Pakistan seems to be a serious country, nuclear weapons have a great army, India is constantly stepping on their heels ... so what they will not introduce a no-fly zone along the Afghan border? They would set up air defense and bring down everything that flies to them, and everything that shoots at their territory. I am sometimes amazed, because there are quite obvious and about simple solutions: Amer bomb, they are knocked down for all business for this. And if America will present something in such a way, you can always put on shoes in a nonsense like defend the airspace from terrorist attacks, and don’t know who shot down your landless vehicles.

[Lord of the Sith]

And that they were indignant and wiped themselves off. But if they tried to bring down or shot down, and then they say we defended the civilian population.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

And that they were indignant and wiped themselves off. But if they tried to bring down or shot down, and then they say we defended the civilian population.

It doesn’t happen that an airplane flies back and forth over the mujahideen, and they sit and smoke a ganja, they say let them fly - American after all. I think the drones are still knocking down, but that no one has typically heard about this, and the silence of the Pentagon is the surest sign that the thing is being done.

[Russ69]

Hello, Pangisrun, where are you with your UN ?????

He listens to the instructions of his boss from the White House. Like in another, he was not seen.

The arrogance of the mattress covers is over the top. To shoot buildings in a city of another country, what’s this called?

[Spiridon]

When will these striped devils bend !?

[Nikolski1973]

There is no one to bend, except us, the rest of the ass lick.

[INTER]

Quote: Nikolski1973

There is no one to bend, except us, the rest of the ass lick.

We don’t need to, it’s better to suffocate ourselves in our shit! We already lost many sons in the warriors.

[GSH-18]

Quote: Spiridon

When will these striped devils bend !?

Yes, they do not bend, do not hope. The technology of bending cancer for their own benefit has been worked out to the smallest detail. Another couple of predatory warfare, which will be shown on TV (to intimidate dissidents), and voila, now everyone owes to the states!

[Vtel]

"The Pakistani government constantly claims that drone attacks are counterproductive, bring civilian casualties and violate human rights."

Well, what to take from the zombie-corrupt government, they are destroying the people, and they are friends with the Yankees, the same six-armed Geyvropa acted antimorally with the President of Bolivia Morales.

[Starover_Z]

There is a "war on terrorism". And in war, all is fair. The US will say nothing more. And they themselves work out ways to destroy people in real life. This is not the white population of Manhattan.

[King]

Mayhem continues.

[GSH-18]

Quote: King

Mayhem continues.

And getting stronger ..

[Starover_Z]

I wonder where did this drone come from?

[Thunderbolt]

Based and take off from Afghan airfields, and controlled from Nevada. The Americans are constantly expanding the base network of UD drone pilots and transfer them to their closest allies.

[uhu189]

Why be surprised - if when a drone destroyed a Pakistan army checkpoint when 17 soldiers died - Islamabad did nothing ... What to say about 17 allegedly militants in Waziristan. There everyone doesn’t care already, but blather only for a look.

[aleshka1987]

You don’t need to collect any court, investigation or evidence, it’s lawlessness! That's how they declared a person bad and killed right away, and on the territory of a country with which they do not even fight! These are they fighters for human rights and democracy. Scum!

[little man]

Fine. Impressed.
Give two!

[pa_nik]

"17 people died"

You do not have air defense - then we will go to you !!!

[aviator_IAS]

Quote: pa_nik

You do not have air defense - then we will go to you !!! hi

By the way, Pakistan has air defense, and even a vigorous bomb. But this does not stop the "striped peacekeepers". There is no political decision to protect your population. If the amers act so brazenly without fear of consequences, it looks like there is a secret agreement with the Pakistani government.

[Algor73]

We miss the moral side - drones prove their effectiveness.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Algor73

drones prove their effectiveness.

Yeah, they kill civilians very effectively. Even lowering the moral side.

[Uncle Serozha]

Quote: Algor73

We miss the moral side - drones prove their effectiveness

That you really have a moral side missed. But in vain.
As for efficiency, the drone is really effective against partisans who do not have air defense systems. But just do not miss the moral side. A drone does not distinguish militants from civilians.

[Burbulator]

Hmmm ... You may be right.
Well then, I'll wait for the moral Russian drone, which will distinguish a civilian from an action movie in the North. Caucasus.

[Windbreak]

But do civilians do not die from manned aircraft? Yes, and is she armed better than 4 AGM-114

[sashka]

That's what I would call "wet in the toilet." Effectively and without leaving home .. And then the latest news about clashes and losses, there is no more strength to watch and listen ..

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Sasha

And then the latest news about the clashes and losses, there is no more strength to watch and listen ..

Probably other people's children are not particularly sorry. The situation may change when everyone will serve there, but this is unlikely.

[buzuke]

"The Pakistani government constantly claims that drone attacks are counterproductive, bring civilian casualties and violate human rights."

and don’t say so, these Pakistanis are already tired of their claims! well, you think, they’ve primaried a dozen other civilians, with whom it doesn’t happen ... but seriously, Pakistanis would have long taken the Amers as a tender one, otherwise they will only be indignant

[Blad_21617]

Islamists who are itching to take note of whether you are swarming your discontent are showing ... you overthrow the legitimate governments of countries (for example, Syria, Libya) as prostitutes are laid out in front of the US and the EU, you hope for Uncle Sam for his help. Yes, they use you like a condom and then shoot you with an Apache ...

[pa_nik]

Quote: Blad_21617

to the Islamists who take a note, h ... are you messing around

Suddenly! But if you think about it - in the case !!

[aviator_IAS]

Somehow languidly Pakistan protests. Could react more seriously. After all, an attack on a country possessing nuclear weapons. But the leadership of the country does not seem to care. So well fed. By the way, such incidents inevitably strengthen anti-American sentiment in the country and strengthen the position of religious extremists. Legal language: grossly violated international law, violated air borders, the killing of residents without trial. Direct aggression. Only two countries in the world allow themselves this: the USA and Israel. Despite everything, Pakistan continues to be a geopolitical ally of the United States, which the West has become arming as opposed to gaining weight in the Indian region.
Instead of indignation, the Pakistanis would throw air defense systems to the border and shoot down Amer radio-controlled toys. It’s even interesting what would happen next .

[Vtel]

Similarly, it’s time for us to form unmanned fighter regiments to deal with drones.

[KononAV]

and once again to bring down the spirit is not enough?

[StraNeek]

Quote: pa_nik

"17 people died"

You do not have air defense - then we will go to you !!!

What for!

[SPIRITofFREEDOM]

I would try a drone closer to our borders !!!
That's what suverinitet means
It must be defended by force !!!

[Perch_xnumx]

America is preparing its tough American marines for a potential meat grinder in Azerbaijan. As always, for the seed game, to get used to it, we will easily defeat and shoot everyone, we are America, we are marines, yeah.


It was easy on paper and forgot about the ravines.

[Uncle Serozha]

Quote: Perch_1

America is preparing its tough American marines for a potential meat grinder in Azerbaijan.

And besides, note that the "enemies" in the video do not speak Azerbaijani at all, but Russian. These are such lovely views on the future.

[screw cutter]

What kind of Americans are they? They took and cut off their comrade’s leg (it’s probably very cool), and our poor conscripts would simply get a jack and a mustache from the car ... What touches me is that there are graffiti everywhere, how many balonchiki and artists? literally on every corner. And yes, everyone walks absolutely soundlessly, especially over the enemy’s head. But there is no silver lining, they obviously do not underestimate us, however they are not the first.

[armandos]

Without question, the amers are completely overgrown. But, I have such a suspicion that soon the whole world will gang up on them. I think about ten years from now with these stinking and cowardly warriors in general no one will have to do.

[pensioner]

These two-horned two-horned homosexuals will wait! Such a bird will fly up, close something in its wires and it will shoot in its own way. Will, will ... Sooner or later it will happen.

[Black Colonel]

Surely, interested persons are already picking up keys for this bird.

[sys-1985]

I understand everything, but what about an adequate answer?

[albai]

Yes, but if you kill a million - they will call you a hero; you kill one - a murderer! When will the Americans start wetting their toilets? Sheltered by the hawks think they won’t get it? All would have to get chestnuts from them with the wrong hands. And the packs on the eve of the withdrawal of amers are looking forward to getting a lot of loot, and they are silent.

[individual]

The death of 17 people, the United States received another platoon of Pakistani avengers and sophisticated terrorists with its policy of killing drones.

[Black Colonel]

"got another platoon of Pakistani avengers and sophisticated terrorists"
Rather, a company. After all, every dead person has relatives, friends.

[Stiletto]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I do not understand, but is this not a war crime on the part of the United States. Hello, Pangisrun, where are you with your UN ?????

It has not yet come under the sight of US drones. He sits, is silent and quietly rejoices that he was once again "carried away" - out of fear, well, in principle.

[Thunderbolt]

Based on Nicola Abé's killer article and Christopher Sultan's translation of “The Woes of an American Drone Operator” on Spigel on December 14, 2012. This is a story about an American soldier. As a child, he strove to become the best in the class, get higher education, and defend the country. He enlisted in the military, became a drone operator and killed dozens of people. But suddenly he realizes that he cannot go on like this. In the middle of the desert in New Mexico are elongated metal containers the size of a car trailer. They have no windows. Doors cannot be opened just like that, due to security concerns. Air conditioners always maintain an internal temperature of 17 degrees Celsius. Inside the containers, behind 14 monitors and 4 keyboards, there are constantly sitting operators - employees of the US Air Force. In one of these containers, Brandon Bryant has served for more than five years. When he pressed a key, people were dying on the other side of the planet. The buzz from the computer fans is constantly in the container. These computers are the drone’s brain, so the military calls the container a cabin, and the operators call pilots. But these operators do not fly, they just sit at the monitors, as if playing a flight simulator. Brandon Bryant was one of them. He cannot forget one shift in any way. The Predator drone cut eights in the hot Afghan sky, 10000 km from New Mexico. In the crosshairs of the electronic sight, a small clay house with a flat roof and a canopy shelter for goats were visible. After receiving the order, Brandon Bryant left-handedly pressed the key, fixing the sight on the roof of the house. His partner immediately pressed the joystick button, sending the drone a command to launch the Hellfire rocket. 16 seconds were left before the explosion. These seconds lasted forever, like a slowdown in a video game. Bryant could not take his eyes off the video from the infrared camera on the drone transmitted via satellite. Seven seconds passed - the rocket flew normally, not a single person was visible on the ground. Three seconds later, Bryant saw the yard of the doomed house, as if he looked out the window. Suddenly, he saw a child coming out from around the corner of the house. At that moment, Bryant seemed to be transported to that village between Baghlan and Mazar-e-Sharif. The flash on the monitor is an explosion. Dust, smoke and pieces of walls scatter in different directions. There was no child anywhere.
More information at http://voprosik.net/otkroveniya-operatora-bespilotnika/ © QUESTION

[dc120mm]

American UAV pilots are sitting for themselves, drinking coffee and Coca-Cola and killing people!

[Encoder]

Quote: Algor73

drones prove their effectiveness

This is the effectiveness of the armed against the unarmed, and no more.

[kartalovkolya]

Democracy is in action, and they are freed from such a chimera as conscience by their ideological teacher Hitler, whose work they continue in the 21st century. (As if there was no Nuremberg)

[KG_patriot_last]

Hand on heart: all the same, on the Pakistanis ... especially Waziristan ... She didn’t call herself friendly for us to spare them ...

I would like something else: for such drones to be in service with us ... Many people confuse drones with intelligent robots ... These are two different things. People press the button and this is the most important thing.

[papss]

Quote: KG_patriot_last

Hand on heart: all the same, on the Pakistanis ... especially Waziristan ... She didn’t call herself friendly for us to spare them ...

I agree, it’s true that they choose the lesser of two evils ... to be honest, I’m reading and thinking ... which time and time this happens ... And apparently, there is a lot of toilet paper to wipe it ... Well, is it really impossible then do something to bring them down at last? Reminds a safari ...

[soldier's grandson]

Quote: seasoned

Amer on figs, whom to "kill", the operator, as in another computer shooter, simply confused the target, we follow the continuation of the quest

the operator confused the game of shooting and service attire

[Vitaly Anisimov]

UAVs are not funny .. They can be done by thousands of them and the air defense simply can’t cope .. (which are designed for serious purposes) Here is a signal interception and hacking control (when these things turn around and fly back to their administrators, bringing death and destruction to them ..) It would be funny here .. !!

[Constantine]

But what is this Pakistan to them if they forced Vienna to violate the Vienna Convention, in the case of Morales. The fear there is generally lost, actually :)

[APASUS]

. According to preliminary data, among the dead are mostly militants of the Afghan terrorist group "Haqqani Network."

In a couple of days, there will be infa that the terrorists were at the wedding or it was a funeral, in short a paragraph to all those present!