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The analytical program "However," with Mikhail Leontyev 04 July 2013

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What happened at the airport in quiet Vienna can be called a public suicide of European sovereignties.

The plane of the Bolivian President Evo Morales, who was returning home from Moscow, made essentially a forced landing in Vienna after the authorities of Portugal, France, Spain and Italy closed their airspace for him. The President of Bolivia was detained at the airport on 12 hours, during which the aircraft was searched, which did not give the desired result. Such a result should have been the discovery of a fugitive CIA employee Edward Snowden, whom the United States is seeking to capture at any price.

It's funny that it was the Vienna police who soaked the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Immunities. Until now, the seizure of embassies was the lot of savages. And the seizure of the presidential plane is the same as the seizure of the embassy. You can imagine how the Americans pressed their satellites so that they, having stooped below the plinth, completely forgot all the known norms of international law. Yes, and their own kind of interests. Particularly ridiculous against the background of this poaching hunt for Snowden are the strained statements of European leaders, outraged by the American wiretapping unveiled by Snowden. Now, if someone else allowed the idea that the satellites have sovereignty, now these guys have tried to dispel any illusions themselves.

From the cartoon "Mowgli":
- Stand, is Shirkhan the leader of the pack? Or are you jackals to cringe in front of him?
- Be quiet, human cub!
“Something smelled like carrion.”

In general, the phenomenon of Snowden is extremely, in our opinion, little productive in terms of any new information, extremely instructive in terms of exposing politically correct myths about exemplary Western democracy in the face of the most naive and infantile part of society. Because it is hard to believe that a person in his right mind would really doubt that American intelligence services scan the Internet and listen to foreign leaders at every opportunity. Americans, by the way, can be understood: for them, Snowden is not a botanist truth story, but a traitor who had access to the very heart of secret information. But this is their problem. To us, Snowden did not do anything wrong either from a moral or a legal point of view.

“The intelligence services of the United States are global. They work globally. They have their own departmental interests. Lawyers have such a notion of“ executor of executing ”: instructing someone to peep, and they overhear; send eavesdropping - they pry. colleagues themselves will figure out among themselves who is right, who is to blame and how to deal with it, "said Vladimir Putin.

That is, with all the sympathy for the American colleagues, excuse me: we can do nothing to help. As for international law and the safety of flights ... Well, now in Latamerica now, probably, it is better to fly through Siberia. Who knows and to whom else in an enlightened Europe will the thought come to bend over ?!
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  1. experienced
    experienced 5 July 2013 09: 19 New
    64
    From the cartoon "Mowgli":
    - Stand, is Shirkhan the leader of the pack? Or are you jackals to cringe in front of him?
    - Be quiet, human cub!
    “Something smelled like carrion.”

    100% hit, no further talking hi
    1. 755962
      755962 5 July 2013 09: 47 New
      39
      Evo Morales: Bolivia does not need the United States Embassy

      Judging by the reaction of the leaders of Latin American countries, the incident with the actual seizure of the Bolivian president’s aircraft by the European authorities, carried out on the explicit orders of Washington, will finally rally the continent against the neo-colonial USA

      Bolivian President Evo Morales said at a meeting of the Union of South American States that he "will not flinch his hand to close the US embassy in Bolivia." He also emphasized that it is necessary to free European countries from US influence, supporting the protest movements in every possible way.


      http://russian.rt.com/article/11807
      1. Constantine
        Constantine 5 July 2013 11: 57 New
        +4
        Only now, not everyone came to a meeting of the leaders of Latin American countries. Brazil, for example, sent a deputy. Minister, which clearly does not pull on the level of the general company and, in general, the Brazilians, too, are being squeezed, vessels around: /
        1. Gluxar_
          Gluxar_ 5 July 2013 14: 15 New
          +3
          Quote: Constantine
          Only now, not everyone came to a meeting of the leaders of Latin American countries. Brazil, for example, sent a deputy. Minister, which clearly does not pull on the level of the general company and, in general, the Brazilians, too, are being squeezed, vessels around: /

          So in Brazil, it was no accident that they began to rage. But those who gathered are already quite a few. Certainly the United States has lost this region from its area of ​​influence.
          1. fisherman
            fisherman 5 July 2013 15: 13 New
            +1
            Certainly the United States has lost this region from its area of ​​influence.


            in many ways yes

            they have the strongest and most durable ally in LA - Brazil
    2. orff
      orff 5 July 2013 10: 14 New
      108
      Obama: - Volodya, can you give us Snowden?
      Putin: - And who is it?
      Obama: - Oh! This is a very scary person! He betrayed our great country! Divulged our secrets.
      Putin: - And so, it has greatly disappeared from you?
      Obama: - Not that much ... Everyone already knew that we are spying all over the world, but this, after all, cannot be said out loud, you understand. And he hit the whole office. This cannot be forgiven.
      Putin: - Well, what does Russia have to do with it?
      Obama: - So he sits at your airport. Give it back.
      Putin: - Give the airport? Not to hell with your appetites ...
      Obama: - Give Snowden.
      Putin: - So he is at the airport, and not in Russia. Make a request to the airport government, maybe they will give it back.
      Obama (losing patience): - Volodenka, we’ll bite you with our teeth!
      Putin: - Did you understand what you said?
      Obama: - Sorry, Vladimir Vladimirovich, I didn’t open that training manual. Remained from Bush.
      Putin: - Okay, don't be fooled. Who the hell are you talking about? The Chinese have already talked to him, and our guys. All that he knew, he had already written in triplicate. Give the guy a normal sneak to Cuba, let him rest.
      Obama: - How can you! We are a great country! We will not allow some twenty-nine-year-old hacker ...
      Putin: - Change the training manual. This one is also outdated.
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 5 July 2013 12: 18 New
        +6
        EXCELLENTLY decomposed, YOU WILL NOT TELL BETTER !!! BRAVO !!!
        1. Very old
          Very old 5 July 2013 13: 27 New
          +8
          Well, why do we need the Petrosyans, the Zadornovs - it's time to create a new program: USA on democracy, tolerance, political correctness, respect for rights (who? Why?) -
      2. Very old
        Very old 5 July 2013 13: 12 New
        +5
        Onotole, have you forgotten? "America is not a country, but just a business" (I quote Brad Pitt)
        1. orff
          orff 5 July 2013 13: 28 New
          +5
          ... and for every business according to the training manual wink
      3. The gentleman
        The gentleman 5 July 2013 13: 22 New
        +2
        gorgeous !!! just lovely.
      4. kavkaz8888
        kavkaz8888 5 July 2013 13: 33 New
        +3
        Did you come up with it yourself? Yes, if not all NISHTYAK himself!
      5. Proud.
        Proud. 5 July 2013 20: 42 New
        +1
        Cool. A little bit after that, about that.
        Quote: orff
        Remained from Bush.
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 5 July 2013 11: 34 New
      +9
      Quote: seasoned
      100% hit, no further talking

      From the article: "You can imagine how the Americans put pressure on their satellites, so that they, bending below the plinth, completely forgot all the known norms of international law."
      It was, so to speak, a publicly demonstrative "test of the pen" of the State Department (trampling on all norms in the name of their own mercantile interests). All this could somehow be justified in the event of Snowden's capture, but the amers got stuck on the very nihach. Now only a madman will begin to see true world good in American politics wassat
      1. Very old
        Very old 5 July 2013 13: 37 New
        +4
        Gesha, it’s not often that there is such unanimity in the forum. Everything, like one, from Alyoshka-seasoned to Sergei Borisovich — all LJE and WANT. This is not Halloween for you. It looks like the singers are in deep gloom
      2. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka 5 July 2013 22: 09 New
        +2
        Quote: GSH-18
        All this could somehow be justified.

        No, under no circumstances can it be justified. Even if there were a hundred Snowdenes on the plane. By all international standards, the United States should have sought extradition from Bolivia in this case, but not landed and inspected the plane of the first person of the SOVEREIGN STATE. And this is already behavior complete chaos.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 5 July 2013 23: 33 New
          +2
          Quote: Tverichanka
          And this is the behavior of complete chaos.

          Good evening, Nina! This is about the lawless people from USA. He who wages war with all is hardly at peace with himself. William Gaslitt
    4. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 5 July 2013 12: 12 New
      +4
      Quote: seasoned
      - Something here smelled of carrion

      Yes, not just the smell, but the stink of rushing such that no aromas (tolerance and other) can not be masked ........
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 5 July 2013 13: 03 New
        0
        Quote: ziqzaq
        no aromas (tolerance and other) can not be masked ....

        Hmm, in my opinion tolerance and the rest just stink!
        The stench stink disguise _ Prel-e-stno, Prel-e-stno.
        Yusovtsy and their accomplices are not durian, the aroma is fully consistent with the taste!
    5. Very old
      Very old 5 July 2013 13: 06 New
      0
      And the widow HISSED herself
    6. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 5 July 2013 13: 43 New
      +3
      I watched the speeches of the leaders at the urgently convened summit. There were offers ranging from the closure of embassies to the abandonment of the American currency. The leaders were very annoyed.
    7. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 5 July 2013 14: 13 New
      +4
      Quote: seasoned
      100% hit, no further talking

      I would add ... and one hundred percent failure of the United States.
      Why is one person so expensive for a country's reputation? Speaking on the subject of Snowden, I said that the best option for Russia would be to send him on some sort of plane so that the United States would force its satellites to forcefully board and arrest their agent. However, they exceeded my expectations with their stupidity, they landed the President’s plane !!!
      Now I can confidently say that they work in the USA.
      They not only humbled themselves and undermined confidence in the Western world, but also drew a red line between North America and South. Why do they bury themselves? Are they tired of such a wretched political existence and are they striving for suicide? Who today from Africa, Asia or South America will keep money in Western banks or negotiate with politicians who do not keep their word and break the rules?
      This is a US failure comparable only to the war in Libya.
      1. Papakiko
        Papakiko 5 July 2013 16: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Gluxar_
        Are they tired of such a wretched political existence and are they striving for suicide? Who today from Africa, Asia or South America will keep money in Western banks or negotiate with politicians who do not keep their word and break the rules?

        the Anglo-Saxan union will have enough opportunities and the desire to trample the whole of South America into the Stone Age, and even about Africa, and even more so very cheaply and cheerfully.
        On the question of where the money is, and he is at all about the stutterers "this question. In other words, where does it lie? Vokurat is there!
        Whoever writes the rules is the one who "changes" them.
        Quote: Gluxar_
        Why is one person so expensive for a country's reputation?

        It is necessary to intimidate all the "unreliable" so that they would forget completely even about the idea of ​​"spying" for another country or "trading" secrets, let alone go across the "party" at all ...

        Quote: Gluxar_
        Speaking on the subject of Snowden, I said that the best option for Russia would be to send him on some sort of plane so that the United States would force its satellites to forcefully board and arrest their agent. However, they exceeded my expectations with their stupidity, they landed the President’s plane !!!

        This you voiced in this thread: http: //topwar.ru/30177-ekvador-sdulsya-teper-vse-zavisit-ot-putina.html


        # comment-id-1289713
        I categorically congratulate you and my respect for such a 100500% hit in the development of the situation! drinks
        1. not good
          not good 5 July 2013 21: 40 New
          0
          Yes, Snowden, probably already under the name of Snegov and with a Russian passport, is resting in some departmental sanatorium. And the United States to check all planes from Russia to check.
  2. INTER
    INTER 5 July 2013 09: 20 New
    31
    I’m wondering what the Americans would do if the plane with the US president would just as impudently land and search, for example, in Bolivia or Ecuador, and in Russia ?????? what
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 5 July 2013 09: 35 New
      25
      Quote: INTER
      What would the Americans do if the plane with the US president would just as impudently land and search

      A minimum, they imposed sanctions themselves, demanded that others impose sanctions, and a maximum bombed dictators. Although, if we had done this, then they would have yelled and swallowed. It all depends on who comes running over you and what your roof is. hi
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 5 July 2013 09: 48 New
        -36
        “It all depends on who is running into you and what kind of roof you have” - the bandits have a roof, we have an army.
        Thank God we do not have CIA agents in Russia! All FSB and ours caught! laughing
        Now they are all in Moscow sitting in the Kremlin!
        Of course, it is very important for our citizens what happened there in Europe with the Morales plane. It is strange why this journalist is not discussing the topic of a clearly political order for Urlashov?
        Here a brave man spoke at the rally:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfKVvd_lM9s
        and they quickly sewed a deal! and not in Europe, but here at home! But Misha Leontev is more concerned about the Morales plane - you can talk about him freely, but beware about Urlashev!
        1. INTER
          INTER 5 July 2013 09: 50 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          and the maximum bombed dictators

          Alexander agrees, well-established scheme)
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 July 2013 10: 01 New
          28
          Quote: S_mirnov
          Here a brave man spoke at the rally:

          Well, of course, Smirnof, how will they bind an official in a bribe. So immediately they shout the political order and all that. Are you not his lawyer for an hour?
          The more they give your burlashov, the better! Maybe others will think. Is it worth stealing.
          1. INTER
            INTER 5 July 2013 10: 12 New
            12
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            .so immediately shout the political order and all that.

            In our country, in such cases, the extreme is power, in particular GDP.)))
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 5 July 2013 10: 57 New
              -16
              "In our country, in such cases, the authorities are the most extreme, in particular the GDP." - Wow! When was that extreme GDP? That he was imprisoned? !! Or at least Serdyukov?
              1. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 5 July 2013 12: 42 New
                12
                That is, the landing of a person who has found a mountain of currency and darling rubles (his salary for a thousand years) at home, you absolutely do not like? You either put on your underpants or take off your cross ...
              2. smile
                smile 5 July 2013 13: 31 New
                12
                S_mirnov
                Fortunately, in view of the fact that there are not many people like you, they are not always extreme. :))) But look, they didn’t plant anyone, you are terribly unhappy, Putin’s agent! thieves planted, you are again unhappy, again Putin is an agent!
                Have you ever been happy with anything? Maybe something doesn’t stick with women because of Putin’s fault, or is this a kind of pathology? ... which Putin also caused ... maybe a pill is better, huh?
                1. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov 5 July 2013 14: 10 New
                  -4
                  "they put the thief, you are again unhappy, again Putin is the agent!" - I’m not sure that he is a thief! And the investigation has no direct evidence that he is a thief!
                  Vaughn and about Navalny shouted that he was receiving money from the United States, and how it came down to the proofs, and zilch! (I don’t sympathize with Navalny, but the investigation looks too sorry for me)
                  Here on Serdyukov - there is! But he was not imprisoned. There is Chubais, but they also did not put him. The picture does not add up to a single whole.
                  It is very surprising to me that you do not see this discrepancy between news and reality. Or pretend.
                  1. Tverichanka
                    Tverichanka 5 July 2013 22: 19 New
                    +1
                    Quote: S_mirnov
                    from to Serdyukov - is!

                    How do you know what the investigation has and what the investigation doesn’t have? Or does Sk share information with you? How did you immediately determine Urlashov’s innocence? Maybe it’s all about personal likes and dislikes?
          2. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 5 July 2013 10: 50 New
            -8
            "Maybe others will think. Is it worth stealing" - Alexander, you really are so mmm ... wooden or are you pretending? You have clearly shown that they are not imprisoning those who steal, but those who are against United Russia and VVP dare to say a word. The whole country knows who Serdyukov is, ALL !!! And that, do not touch, because as approved!
            1. smile
              smile 5 July 2013 13: 40 New
              +3
              S_mirnov
              Yes, they clearly told us, Putin is not good, because with him the terrible Rashsha became too independent, undemocratic, and prevented the creation of concessions, as in the colonies ... Remember who said, will speak and will speak? Remember shamefully arrogant .... faces of oppositionists caught at the exit from the embassy (including the representative of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, why I almost choked on surprise - but for this alone I have to kick Zyuga out of the post)? The whole country WAS seen this, but did you spend this time in the den, sucking your paw? Or approvals? ... I don’t know that you have a wooden one, but don’t suck your paw anymore, it affects your ability to reason ...
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 5 July 2013 20: 37 New
                -2
                "that under him the terrible Rashsha became too independent," - is this in connection with what? WTO accession? Or in connection with the transit of NATO goods through the territory of the Russian Federation? How did we become more independent?
                "Remember the bashfully arrogant .... faces of the oppositionists caught at the exit from the embassy (including the representative of the Communist Party" - yeah, pathetic
                a sight. Only I would not call it the opposition, this is some kind of misunderstanding.
          3. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 5 July 2013 13: 00 New
            -4
            "Well, of course Smirnoff, how they will tie an official to a bribe." - Pay attention to how firmly in the minds of the people the connection between the Official and the Bribe has become stronger. But it's strange that they are trying to shove all the blame on the opposition, as if it was she who built this vertical of power, and the GDP - only got amphorae, but went to Kalina laughing
            1. Tverichanka
              Tverichanka 5 July 2013 22: 22 New
              +1
              Quote: S_mirnov
              They are trying to push this blame on the opposition,

              ALWAYS guilty is the one who steals, and not the one who was robbed! Or do you have your own opinion on this?
              1. Misantrop
                Misantrop 5 July 2013 22: 30 New
                +1
                Quote: Tverichanka
                ALWAYS guilty is the one who steals, and not the one who was robbed! Or do you have your own opinion on this?

                Blame (IMHO) the one who forbade the thief to catch. Or defend against it in other ways. A thief cannot help stealing if he has every opportunity to do so. Yes, and there is no retribution for theft request
              2. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 5 July 2013 23: 45 New
                0
                "The one who steals is ALWAYS guilty, not the one who was robbed! Or do you have your own opinion on this matter?"
                Of course, of course your own. I believe that the main thieves are sitting in the Kremlin! sorry, and in the Duma!
                http://demotivation.me/9lto0zoli45fpic.html#.UdcawayaTlc
        3. IRBIS
          IRBIS 5 July 2013 10: 31 New
          20
          You are overly negative in the morning. Someone Uralashchev dragged ... Who is this? President of the country? A "brave" person? Or the one who took bribes and now twists his butt? In our country, all the grabbers are trying to give their affairs a political color and this one from the same cohort.
          Quote: S_mirnov
          But Misha Leontev is more concerned about the Morales plane - you can talk about him freely, but beware about Urlashev!

          And they speak freely about Uralashev. You just don't like what they say. Also, they found a "people's" sufferer ...
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 5 July 2013 10: 56 New
            -12
            The media reliably set the brains of our citizens, I did not even expect such effectiveness. recourse
            "And they speak freely about Uralashev." - about Urlashev "they freely say" that he "got caught on a bribe" AND EVERYTHING! Television, newspapers, radio are silent like fish on ice that Urlashev dared to tell the truth about Edrosia. And adding two and two is an impossible task!
            http://demotivation.me/7oxw80lfqoj0pic.html#.UdZ7P6yaTlc
            1. Skiff-2
              Skiff-2 5 July 2013 11: 45 New
              +9
              Do not itch, Smirnoff, not at the white tape rally, the company is not the same here.
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              2. SASCHAmIXEEW
                SASCHAmIXEEW 5 July 2013 12: 25 New
                -1
                This is true!
            2. smile
              smile 5 July 2013 13: 51 New
              +8
              S_mirnov
              No, nevertheless get out of the den or put a satellite dish and hang up a mailbox — all the television channels gave an eavesdropping on the conversations of this thief and the bribe taker — obviously the result was that they were forced to take into account the fact that it’s known that someone takes a thread from thieves- he yells right away — I'm against the bucket and the authorities, and they tied me for that ... as soon as they take the thief from the Vedra — he yells right there — I was an internal oppositionist, about to leave the party, and the bloody Kei Gi took revenge on this. ..you aren’t tired of this? ... and doesn’t it make you think? ... oh yes, I forgot, you yourself didn’t decide that you have wooden there .... it’s even strange to hear from you that you know the name of one fiction and one mathematical action ...
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 5 July 2013 14: 53 New
                -9
                "yelling, I am against the bucket and the authorities, and for that they tied me ..." - okay, those, he has been against the bucket for a long time since the elections.
                "that how they take someone from the thieves, he immediately yells, I am against the bucket" - are you talking about Serdyukov, chtoli? laughing
                1. Babon
                  Babon 5 July 2013 16: 12 New
                  +4
                  S_mirnov
                  What are you grunting like an old grandmother? Everything is bad and sad, where does so much negativity come from? Maybe really, something in my personal life went wrong?
                  1. S_mirnov
                    S_mirnov 5 July 2013 23: 42 New
                    0
                    "Why are you groaning like an old granny?" - more specifically, please, without demagoguery.
                    In my opinion, I specifically and clearly defend the opinion that they are trying to condemn Urlashev for telling the truth about edrosov.
                    I would like to hear specifics from you.
                    On my personal life, I'm not complaining.
        4. fokino1980
          fokino1980 5 July 2013 10: 59 New
          +9
          Count S_mirnov! Someone is rushing you today! What did you take in the morning ???? laughing
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 5 July 2013 11: 09 New
            -15
            just read the news. This is enough if we comprehend the information received. It’s even a shame for the Power after shame with Proton.
            And after all, the main topic on the site is "Morales' plane", we stand with a bare ass and teach Europe - to defend freedom. One gets the impression that the commentators are insane. First, you will deal with falling missiles and corruption in your country, and then teach others to live.
            1. nov_tech.vrn
              nov_tech.vrn 5 July 2013 11: 29 New
              +3
              by the way, with your bare ass to you in Europe, we don’t like
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 5 July 2013 11: 42 New
                -5
                How do they dislike it, but Moses, and Zhirinovsky?
                1. nov_tech.vrn
                  nov_tech.vrn 5 July 2013 12: 39 New
                  +1
                  pah disgusting, but I thought you were on vodka
                2. smile
                  smile 5 July 2013 14: 00 New
                  +6
                  S_mirnov
                  Well, you know ... Zhirik is just like a homosexual like you are a person with analytical thinking, a healthy psyche and strong nerves ... that is, no way! :)))
                  I don’t know what tragedies you had to go through before you broke ... it’s quite possible that you are a very deserved person ... but the result is that you have broken and turned into an ever-dissatisfied bruise, already incapable of sound, balanced thoughts ... very sorry...
                  1. S_mirnov
                    S_mirnov 5 July 2013 14: 57 New
                    0
                    "Well, you know ... Zhirik also looks like a homosexual" - everything is similar with you, but they showed it on TV ...
                    And where did Zhirik Bush call him a "thug cowboy"? In the GAYClub, embracing fagots !!!
                    And why did he end up in the Turkish jail? Of course he says - "For revolutionary activity!" and you certainly believe him ...
                3. IRBIS
                  IRBIS 5 July 2013 16: 00 New
                  +3
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  just read the news. This is enough if we comprehend the information received.

                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  How do they dislike it, but Moses, and Zhirinovsky?

                  And you read this in the news? What are you reading that killer? And why are you so rested in the protection of a thief and a bribe-taker? Do you like the "work" of the individual "on camera"? So in the world and death is red! Now let's see how it will sing there.
                  1. S_mirnov
                    S_mirnov 5 July 2013 19: 16 New
                    -1
                    “And why are you so stubborn in protecting a thief and a bribe-taker?” - and I'm not sure that he is a thief and a bribe-taker. From the evidence so far, there is a lot of cash found in the apartment of a neighbor on the staircase. Looks pretty lame. Compared to the women of Serdyukov, this is generally indecent.
            2. Tartary
              Tartary 5 July 2013 12: 45 New
              +2
              Quote: S_mirnov
              better pick up for the gundyaev

              That's enough ...

              The metropolitan of the Russian Orthodox Church wanted to wash the bones ??

              This is what can bring a person anger and hatred of the motherland ????????

              To her holy values ​​??

              I don’t understand why the rest are silent? Especially adequate moderators?

              Or did the brains of the church father of Russia overshadow them? Or did the chemical building dust on the shelves of the holy books seem golden and hidden?

              Or Mercedeses of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation, a toad on the chest was completely discredited ???????????
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 5 July 2013 12: 49 New
                -7
                And where does the homeland, holy values ​​and Gundyaev have to do with it. In my opinion, absolutely incompatible concepts?
                "Or the Mercedes of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation razdrakonili toad on the chest" - it is really unpleasant when officials and the state apparatus support the manufacturers of Mercedes, would go to Kalina, yellow, like their leader VVP!
              2. dustycat
                dustycat 5 July 2013 22: 20 New
                0
                That's it, he swung at the metro. lol
            3. yur
              yur 5 July 2013 20: 27 New
              +1
              Mr. Smirnov! Yes, sometimes falling, but ROCKETS. As you know, I’m better confident than me, 99% of the countries of the world are not able to produce such high-level products.
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 5 July 2013 22: 09 New
                -1
                We used to do this.
                and now
                http://demotivation.me/wxsfxybsmoq3pic.html#.UdcY1qyaTlc
            4. Misantrop
              Misantrop 5 July 2013 22: 35 New
              +1
              Quote: S_mirnov
              You first deal with falling rockets and corruption in your own country, and then teach others how to live.

              And at the same time it is impossible? Or shut up and be silent until everything inside the country becomes perfect (ie NEVER)? "They steal from us, which means that the plane of the president of a sovereign country (not ours) could have been smashed into the trash with an air defense salvo, this is not our business"? So I understand you? wink
        5. nov_tech.vrn
          nov_tech.vrn 5 July 2013 11: 25 New
          +2
          change training manual, miserable henchman
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 5 July 2013 11: 44 New
            -6
            And whose I’m your henchman there, hit the public with the depth of the analytical approach!
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 5 July 2013 13: 54 New
              +4
              Quote: S_mirnov
              And whose I am your henchman there


              In one row, though you’re not going to be a governor in the Duma ...
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 5 July 2013 14: 01 New
                +2
                Disgusting faces, if everyone is sent to Kolyma, I’ll even be delighted!
                You didn’t guess at all! However, this is natural for the bipolar model hammered into the heads of Russians through the media. It’s sad to see.
                I will blow your brain completely, for me there is no difference between these faces and GDP, Abramovich, Chubais, EBN, Berezovsky. For me they are all enemies of Russia.
                1. Cynic
                  Cynic 5 July 2013 19: 07 New
                  +1
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  I will blow your brain completely, for me there is no difference between these faces and GDP

                  Well, as if our constitution guarantees freedom of expression, it’s like her, in general, freedom of speech! In how.
                  Moreover, maybe you don’t see the difference between them and GDP, but your rhetoric in Russia and GDP is one with them. Do not distinguish!
                2. Tverichanka
                  Tverichanka 5 July 2013 22: 38 New
                  +2
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  For me they are all enemies of Russia.

                  Do mercy, call your friends of Russia. Who do you think are?
              2. Yankuz
                Yankuz 5 July 2013 15: 37 New
                +2
                - Something here smelled of carrion!
        6. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 5 July 2013 12: 23 New
          +2
          And the thief, if they prove, must be in prison !!! So we’ll see! And what about Leontiev’s airplane, did he say it wrong? S_mirnov?
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 5 July 2013 12: 56 New
            -1
            "And the thief, if they prove it, should go to jail !!!"
            Duc, it turns out Serdyukov is not a thief?
            Chubais, Abramovich, Prokhorov - not thieves, hard workers?
            Oh yes, they probably didn’t prove it, there was no decree ...
            "And Leontyev didn't say the right thing about the plane?" - Of course, you can say a lot about what is right, About Costa Concordia, about the oppression of the rights of queers in Somalia, about Islamists in Germany, about decaying America, just not about the situation in Russia, don't let that God, what can you not say so, Duc you can immediately be a "bribe-taker"!
            What is not true? SASCHAmIXEEW?
            1. VADIMKRSK
              VADIMKRSK 5 July 2013 19: 02 New
              +1
              About the situation in Russia. I do not understand. Something happened?
        7. kmike
          kmike 5 July 2013 13: 00 New
          +6
          Yes, yes, yes, and packs of money threw up and the accomplices were beaten for a long time that they began to testify against Urlashev. Yes, and they found a good parodist to parody his voice, and Bastrykin himself recorded it.
        8. smile
          smile 5 July 2013 13: 23 New
          +4
          S_mirnov
          Prala-brand the agents of the State Department who do not allow honest hard workers from the mink opposition to ruin and destroy the country! Mess! Sobchukha for president, then Comrade Smirnov will be for the future of the country ....
        9. Z.A.M.
          Z.A.M. 5 July 2013 13: 35 New
          +2
          Quote: S_mirnov
          Of course, it is very important for our citizens what happened there in Europe with the Morales plane.


          I don’t understand why S_mirnova so many minuses "poked".
          He simply looked at the situation from the other side, or from a different angle, if you like. To think, if you do not support him, there is something.
          We are constantly being sucked in with information that has little to do with our life, in Russia. At the same time, silent events, or giving them extremely superficial attention that directly concern us.
          Well, really, what is it, if you talk about how S_mirnovthat delayed, "landed" Morales' plane?
          By analogy with Snowden - EVERYONE and ALWAYS knew that the amers "listen" to EVERYONE, spy on EVERYONE, in short - spy around the world. Only a few hoped that they would not be followed, "partners" type. Well, now with Snowden's facts, the old confidence has been confirmed. So what? Here Putin's answer (no matter how I feel about him) is brilliant - let them themselves, in their NAT and understand.
          Also with Morales. EVERYTHING for a long time, not only surmise, but see firsthand that both Europe and America - s.r.a.t. (pardon) international law. They began to do this a long time ago, starting with Iran and Yugoslavia. They generally started there - War. They veiled with beautiful words, they sent the UN, and on a plausible excuse they killed a bunch of people. How do you like this?
          So, nothing new, just a sequel.
          Sad but true.
          And in relation to Urlashov, he also writes very faithfully S_mirnov - We would be interested in everyone, but why is it that, surprisingly quickly, with the involvement of Moscow specialists, the mayor of Yaroslavl was packed? The preventive measure was chosen quickly and clearly - arrest. Until September 2, it will be steamed on bunks. And why, not like Vasilyeva - a bracelet on her leg and do not grieve. In the apartment? He may be guilty, I do not deny. Why, even those facts and "evidence" that were voiced make you scratch your head. Something is wrong there.
          So i opinion S_mirnova I accept - it is necessary to think.
          And then, they stuck a person with "minuses", like a hedgehog. wink
          Tov. S_mirnov - hi
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 5 July 2013 13: 45 New
            +2
            Quote: Z.A.M.
            And then, they stuck a person with "minuses", like a hedgehog.

            Few .
            R-Radalets for the Great!
            Sensed a soul mate!
          2. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 5 July 2013 15: 01 New
            -7
            Greetings, comrade Z.A.M! hi
            It’s really difficult to reach the consciousness of people stuffed with media cliches. They fiercely resist and do not want to leave the cozy boxes of the inspired matrix.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 5 July 2013 16: 13 New
              +8
              Quote: S_mirnov

              It’s really difficult to reach the consciousness of people stuffed with media cliches.

              And where did you find out about your stealing mayor from Yaroslavl, didn’t Smirnof know with the media? so which of us is a zombie wink
              1. experienced
                experienced 5 July 2013 16: 15 New
                +3
                Sanya, super ... I'm leaving ..... wassat Extinguish kashlisch
          3. fisherman
            fisherman 5 July 2013 15: 36 New
            +1
            Why, not like Vasilyeva


            this girl’s evidence base is not so complete, there are no defendants who brought in money (for which she most likely bought square meters and a coin)

            with the measure, everything is already included, and everything is transparent, as in a glass with vodka, I won’t be surprised if soon they will be brought to court
          4. IRBIS
            IRBIS 5 July 2013 16: 11 New
            +3
            Quote: Z.A.M.
            we would be interested in everything, but why is it, surprisingly quickly, with the involvement of Moscow specialists, the mayor of Yaroslavl was packed?

            Sorry, there is a saying.
            Do not look in the brain for the brain - it is not there!
            Well, why try to find a secret bottom in an ordinary corruption case. Packed fast? Well, finally, they began to work quickly. Moscow specialists? So they also packed the mayor of Makhachkala, let's count him as a "people's" guardians.
            What to think about? It’s not worth it, so you can go to watching "REN-TV". Sincerely.
          5. Scoun
            Scoun 5 July 2013 18: 04 New
            +1
            Quote: Z.A.M.
            By analogy with Snowden - EVERYONE and ALWAYS knew that amers "listen" to EVERYONE, spy on EVERYONE, in short - spy around the world

            Only here because of "this" as they write Snowden the Vienna Conventions, the foundations of interstate rules and relations are violated .. the regulations that have been in force for decades have been broken .... it's the same as we got into the American Embassy and went over everything and searched and said Okay! gayz .. can work further ...
            And of course, the arrest of Uralashev thundered all over the world showing the criminal component of the UN and the Kremlin ... wassat
            what a trifle this Snowden is that the presidents, the world press and diplomats are talking about him ... that international norms and rules are being violated ... really ... can we discuss a dog’s groom? as well as some kind of Snowden .. what did he do and that he knows that the State Department is threatening States that dare to shelter him at home .... we all know who spies on anyone .. we are all cool spies)) ) hi
          6. dustycat
            dustycat 5 July 2013 22: 29 New
            -1
            Therefore, quickly and clearly to quickly release.
            Another sample indicative self-prop.
            And therefore exemplary that he screwed up too noisily with a very clumsy "victory" in the elections.
            In particular, the Ministry of Emergency Situations of Yaroslavl was very offended by him and one temporarily acting too many uncomfortable questions received from this area.
            Well, the comrade also spoke on the wrong topic and on the wrong topic.
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        11. Cynic
          Cynic 5 July 2013 13: 36 New
          +2
          Quote: S_mirnov
          It is strange why this journalist is not discussing the topic of a clearly political order for Urlashov?

          That’s what is interesting _ Like, that so all of us are fighters against corruption and all for the people.
          I do not claim that the official version is true or false. No . I just want to note that one of the components of any business is a risk assessment. They are obviously underestimated here. Fools are only lucky in fairy tales!
          By the way, if you S_mirnov (2) so outraged, then write or find someone who will write and post material on the site.
          And so you only compromise information about
          Quote: S_mirnov
          clearly political order for Urlashov

          And your dirty tricks, too, does not color you
          Quote: S_mirnov
          why is this journalist

          For some reason, I recall, purely associatively, the words of Alexander III characterizing many then and multiplied even more now.
        12. Perch_xnumx
          Perch_xnumx 5 July 2013 16: 50 New
          +3
          Quote: S_mirnov

          Of course, it is very important for our citizens what happened there in Europe with the Morales plane. It is strange why this journalist is not discussing the topic of a clearly political order for Urlashov?
          Here a brave man spoke at the rally:
          Nehru steal because, like bulk. If you undertake to fight corruption, then it should be crystal clear. And so the fighter against corruption and for the ideas of a bright democracy was himself among the thieves. However, what kind of democracy is it in tolerant Europe we have seen. Zakayev was sheltered, a bandit who advised Beslan geeks, and Snowden, a fighter for freedom and democracy, was ready to send to death.
          1. Naval
            Naval 5 July 2013 18: 05 New
            +2
            +++ Bravo! Everything, at first they steal, and a little smells like a whore, they immediately become politicians. The same Ponomarev, as an uncle, of the most honest rules, a dermocrat such that there is nowhere to put the press, and how to read lectures, for almost a million dollars, and even they weren’t read, but they asked him seriously, and with partiality, so KARAUL! !! I am being persecuted for political reasons
        13. lewerlin53rus
          lewerlin53rus 6 July 2013 08: 31 New
          0
          Quote: S_mirnov
          the theme of a clearly political order for Urlashov?

          Well, you are all interesting liberalists. First, they scream about corruption with foam at the mouth, but as the authorities grab someone hot, the victim is immediately the regime.
      2. silver_roman
        silver_roman 5 July 2013 12: 39 New
        +1
        Well, first of all, an aircraft with a US "prezik" flies accompanied by a pair, or even triplets of F-15s, so that they have the opportunity to completely ignore any requests. the stump is clear no one will use force. can, of course, "push" out of their airspace only, but then, as you said, there will already be sanctions, and the presence of a lack of democracy in such a daring country ... then a hot dog booth in New York will be blown up and they will say that a new one is starting war on terrorism.
      3. VADIMKRSK
        VADIMKRSK 5 July 2013 18: 42 New
        0
        Hitting and roofing ... Level of relationship.
    2. Dmitry 2246
      Dmitry 2246 5 July 2013 10: 47 New
      +7
      It's scary how quickly the "jackals" gather in a flock at the first call of the leader.
      This is a lesson to us. We must take action and unite our friends.
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      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 5 July 2013 11: 52 New
        +4
        Ale, the garage! It is the United States that is constantly fighting with anyone. But Bolivia is not particularly at war.
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          1. smile
            smile 5 July 2013 14: 12 New
            +1
            Committee
            Announce the entire list, please, who needs to be shredded? ... no, Nazis of different nationalities also occasionally get here ... but, in my opinion, no one has ever proposed to shred five billion people ... tell me what the Bolivians have done in front of you Indians? By throwing off colonial oppression? The ones that treat us well? ... or are you envious because of the climate, or are they "occupying the territories that you have looked after for yourself"? :)))) So in the mountains there is not very ... personally, I would not want to live there ... but you go, no one will interfere with you, on the contrary, there you will be glad ... until they find out. what are you ... :)))
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            2. Committee
              Committee 5 July 2013 17: 00 New
              -1
              On what basis were my comments deleted?
    4. GSH-18
      GSH-18 5 July 2013 11: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: INTER
      I’m wondering what the Americans would do if the plane with the US president would just as impudently land and search, for example, in Bolivia or Ecuador

      The next day, the United States would have 52 states! laughing
      1. nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn 5 July 2013 12: 06 New
        0
        and one of them was being restored
  3. pa_nik
    pa_nik 5 July 2013 09: 22 New
    20
    "can be called a public suicide of European sovereignties"

    Actually - YES! If such a fortel rolls with Bolivia and its president, why can’t you do the same in relation to France, Italy ... Germany !? lol The precedent, as THEY say, has been created. Welcome to the "new reality". hi
    1. Mairos
      Mairos 5 July 2013 09: 46 New
      12
      Nuu ... They will otmazhitsya, announce something like "there was a failure of individual air traffic control segments in the skies of the European Union." No, they say, politics, that you - we are so open and democratic !! And what they searched is a mistake, the arbitrariness of individual villains - they have already been punished and fired !! Two-faced western stsukkki.
    2. skullcap
      skullcap 5 July 2013 18: 08 New
      0
      [quote = pa_nik] "can be called a public suicide of European sovereignties"

      Actually - YES! If such a trick is rolling with Bolivia and its president, why it’s impossible to do the same with France, Italy ...
      I agree. After such a passage, every decent person has the full moral right to wipe his feet on the flags of these slave countries.
      And about the flag of the EU as a whole.
  4. Vadivak
    Vadivak 5 July 2013 09: 22 New
    19
    "The actions of the authorities of France, Spain and Portugal can hardly be seen as friendly towards Bolivia, as well as Russia, from which President Morales followed."

    This is our Foreign Ministry Sharp reacted. Other times, it is clear, earlier they would have conducted exercises off the "coast" of Belgium
    1. experienced
      experienced 5 July 2013 09: 25 New
      20
      Quote: Vadivak
      This is how our Foreign Ministry reacted sharply. Other times, it is clear, earlier they would have conducted exercises off the "coast" of Belgium

      Vadim hi , or maybe they did the right thing ... Russia is now better looking at this absurdity from the outside, why take the lead roles, it's easier to quietly throw "fireballs" into the fire of hatred for the United States
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 5 July 2013 09: 27 New
        +6
        Quote: seasoned
        or maybe they did it right ... Russia now and from the outside it is better to look at this absurdity


        I agree, the offshore commodity economy, in conditions of fierce competition, depends entirely on the whims of the buyer and owner of the world currency
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 July 2013 09: 38 New
          +7
          Quote: Vadivak

          I agree, the offshore commodity economy, in conditions of fierce competition, depends entirely on the whims of the buyer and owner of the world currency

          Vadim, it’s not so simple .. they take care of their bucks and if they go too far they will find a replacement quickly. The only thing is that to replace it, it will be necessary to arrange the 3rd world and all. business then winked
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 5 July 2013 09: 50 New
            +5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            .amers cherish their bucks and if they go too far they will find a replacement quickly


            Not anymore, Treasury papers flooded up, now you can get plenty
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 5 July 2013 10: 02 New
              +3
              Quote: Vadivak
              Treasury papers floated up

              At whose direction do you not know? wink
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 5 July 2013 10: 59 New
                +5
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                At whose direction do you not know?


                Who pays, he dances the girl winked
          2. GSH-18
            GSH-18 5 July 2013 12: 59 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The only thing is that to replace it, it will be necessary to arrange the 3rd world and all. business then winked

            Or you can just carry out a large-scale special operation to curl the neck of the members of the families of holders of the world's gold reserves .. Business then.
          3. Cynic
            Cynic 5 July 2013 19: 55 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            replacement will be found quickly.

            Two have already tried

        2. Mairos
          Mairos 5 July 2013 09: 49 New
          +5
          Correctly! Well, let China and the West butt in the Asia-Pacific region, and we will become like the king of monkeys, so beloved Mao. )))
      2. KBPC50
        KBPC50 5 July 2013 10: 13 New
        +5
        Right, you have to wait. Let the peoples and governments understand: 3.14DIVERS have neither conscience nor honor. And their democracy is a Colt democracy of the times of the wild west.
      3. VADIMKRSK
        VADIMKRSK 5 July 2013 19: 23 New
        0
        Firewood is nowhere else to go. Kids will grow up on whom the bombs fell and killed daddies and mothers.
    2. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 5 July 2013 09: 25 New
      13
      Quote: Vadivak
      earlier would have conducted exercises off the "coast" of Belgium

      If you wipe the remote control with a cloth after each blast, then you won’t get any Belgians wassat
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 5 July 2013 09: 31 New
        +6
        Quote: Ruslan67
        If you wipe the remote control with a cloth after each blast, then you won’t get any Belgians


        “Yes, to hell with him, with Ivanitch. You have your general. He misses..."

        DMB
  5. omsbon
    omsbon 5 July 2013 09: 24 New
    +8
    International law, flight safety - all of this turned out to be a fig leaf, weakly covering the "democracy" of Europe!
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 5 July 2013 13: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: omsbon
      International law, flying - all this turned out to be a fig leaf, weakly covering the "democracy" of Europe!

      It's just that all this comedy with Morales eloquently tells the whole world who is strong is right. And he is the most democratic laughing
  6. pa_nik
    pa_nik 5 July 2013 09: 26 New
    +5
    Quote: INTER
    I’m wondering what the Americans would have done if the plane with the US president had been so brazenly landed and searched, for example, in Bolivia or Ecuador


    "There is an opinion .." (C) laughing that these countries would no longer exist .. and smoke and ash slowly settled on their former territories after a massive missile strike of the "most democratic democracy" crying And with Russia - what now to do with it, the Amers will have to endure somehow laughing Nothing to get used to repeat
    1. INTER
      INTER 5 July 2013 09: 57 New
      +5
      Quote: pa_nik
      "There is an opinion .." (C) that these countries would no longer exist .. and smoke and ash slowly settled on their former territories after a massive missile strike of the "most democratic democracy"

      Yes, yes it's democratic)))) laughing In their opinion, everything should get away with only them, and if someone does the same thing, this is already a dictatorship! By the way, Putin does just that, repeating their own moves against them. Yes and correctly Wedge by a wedge)))))
  7. papss
    papss 5 July 2013 09: 27 New
    +4
    Snowden phenomenon ... extremely instructive from the point of view of exposing politically correct myths about model Western democracy
    , the words crown all over the hype with Snowden ...
  8. ovgorskiy
    ovgorskiy 5 July 2013 09: 27 New
    +2
    Not diplomatically, but true.
  9. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 5 July 2013 09: 33 New
    15
    Perhaps either President of Russia or the President of the PRC can throw Snowden through the air, for the rest I am no longer sure.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 5 July 2013 09: 52 New
      +7
      Quote: Standard Oil
      Chairman of the PRC


      In my opinion, any Chinese airplane, even with piglets on board
  10. shurup
    shurup 5 July 2013 09: 41 New
    +5
    To the option to travel by hitchhiking was added an "air stop".
    1. Misantrop
      Misantrop 5 July 2013 10: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: shurup
      added "air stop".

      The CIA guys just remembered the old ad and took a sip of Fanta. Remember the famous: "Then we took a sip of" Fanta "and stopped ..." So even the presidential board stopped laughing But Anna Karenina did not drink "Fanta", there was no her then ... request
  11. Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 5 July 2013 09: 46 New
    +2
    Edik sat in the toilet of the plane, delightedly dragging himself on Belomor. And giggled ./////////// belay somehow I doubt that the kid knew the "very heart" of secrets. Iceland should be tried, she once stole B. Fischer from his fellow tribesmen from the USA.
    1. VADIMKRSK
      VADIMKRSK 5 July 2013 19: 34 New
      0
      You remembered the line of Fisher! And about the tribesmen of the Anglo-Saxons.
  12. orff
    orff 5 July 2013 09: 54 New
    +8
    There is a precedent: now diplomats at airports will be lured to the fullest. a good brandy or watch with pants wink
    Sit in Russia Snowden, learn the balalaika score
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 5 July 2013 14: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: orff
      There is a precedent: now diplomats at airports will be lured to the fullest. a good brandy or watch with pants wink
      Sit in Russia Snowden, learn the balalaika score

      At the airport of Qatar, the Russian ambassador was beaten for refusing to have a shmona. So long ago he put big and fat on all political curtsies. Snowden, quiet as the Chinese need to be fused somewhere to hell, he needs hemorrhoids.
      1. 89501358976
        89501358976 5 July 2013 16: 47 New
        +1
        EVERYBODY IS AFRAID OF US ONE SINGLE GDP FOR ... WOW !!!! WELL SITS A GUY TO HIMSELF AT THE AIRPORT, WELL AND LET SIT. IT IS ONLY IN RUSSIA AND CAN HIDE !! SNOWD AND IT UNDERSTANDS ANYWHERE ANOTHER EASY.
        1. Tverichanka
          Tverichanka 5 July 2013 22: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: 89501358976
          THE GUY SITS TO HIMSELF AT THE AIRPORT,

          Are you sure that he is there? And is there someone who saw him there? Or is there someone who was sitting with him on the plane in the next seat? ... Everything is muddy somehow ... And Putin is beautiful! Cool amers troll. Just aerobatics. Most importantly, you can’t quarrel.
  13. Vtel
    Vtel 5 July 2013 09: 56 New
    +6
    Let's see what Latin America has to say, or again all the words, words and words. And the Yankomans have long since spit on everyone from the big mountain, they are like a stoned drug addict who grabbed the helm of the common ship "Earth". And sho will be if they are not lowered below the waterline, shoby did not smell, there is no inevitable accident with a large number of victims - a world accident.
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 5 July 2013 10: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: Vtel
      Let's see what Latin America will say or again all the words, words and words


      A number of members of the Union of South American Nations (UNASUR) demanded a public apology from the governments of France, Portugal, Italy and Spain for the incident with Bolivian leader Evo Morales. Country leaders agreed to establish a special commission to investigate the incident.
      The meeting in the Bolivian city of Cochabamba was held in the presence of the leaders of Argentina, Bolivia, Venezuela, Suriname, Uruguay and Ecuador. Brazil sent a special representative in the rank of Deputy Foreign Minister to the meeting. The leaders of Peru, Chile and Colombia did not arrive at the meeting.
      All the heads of state that spoke at the meeting demanded an apology from the European countries, and Ecuador’s president Rafael Correa said that if this happened to the European leader or the US president, then this would be seen as a pretext for war. Representatives of Brazil, Chile, Peru and Colombia at the meeting read out statements by the leaders of their states, which express solidarity with the people and the president of Bolivia.
      Bolivian President Evo Morales at an emergency meeting of several leaders of Latin American countries warned that he could close the US embassy, ​​whose authorities he accuses of pressure on European countries that closed the airspace for the presidential plane


      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20130705/947741536
  14. valokordin
    valokordin 5 July 2013 10: 01 New
    +7
    Quote: 20 kopeek
    Yedik was sitting in the toilet of the plane, taking a long drag on Belomor. And giggling. /////////// belay somehow I doubt that the boy knew the "heart" of secrets. then B. Fischer from his fellow tribesmen from the USA.

    I remind you again, the best place to hide Snowden is South Ossetia, or Abkhazia. Abkhazia is preferable, there are sea and tangerines. Here Ukraine is torn to the west, and the power bought by the USA does not think about what will become the same mongrel as Poland and Bulgaria.
    1. Gregazov
      Gregazov 5 July 2013 21: 30 New
      0
      This will be a new reason for the invasion of Georgia.
  15. sir.jonn
    sir.jonn 5 July 2013 10: 09 New
    +8
    The behavior of the p and osov sixes can be predicted with a high degree of probability, but clearly showing your loyalty to the owner in such a low way is a humiliation of the sovereignty of your country and citizens. An attempt to justify themselves in front of the media for a frankly planned landing is especially striking, all their words smell like rotten.
  16. Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 5 July 2013 10: 11 New
    +2
    Quote: valokordin
    Quote: 20 kopeek
    Yedik was sitting in the toilet of the plane, taking a long drag on Belomor. And giggling. /////////// belay somehow I doubt that the boy knew the "heart" of secrets. then B. Fischer from his fellow tribesmen from the USA.

    I remind you again, the best place to hide Snowden is South Ossetia, or Abkhazia. Abkhazia is preferable, there are sea and tangerines. Here Ukraine is torn to the west, and the power bought by the USA does not think about what will become the same mongrel as Poland and Bulgaria.

    -Yes, that's a good idea / Abkhazia, Yu.O./- wassat And in the papakh, Circassian, and with a meter beard of Snowden, my mother does not recognize either. Where is the CIA
  17. Opera
    Opera 5 July 2013 10: 18 New
    +1
    And these insolents do not even see the edges anymore, well, worse for them - any loss of perception of reality usually ends badly! But their jackal really was left only with a kick ...
    Quote: S_mirnov
    Thank God we do not have CIA agents in Russia! All FSB and ours caught! Now they are all in Moscow sitting in the Kremlin!

    Well, you’re not yet in the Kremlin, are you offended ?!
  18. Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 5 July 2013 10: 36 New
    0
    Quote: Misantrop
    Quote: shurup
    added "air stop".

    The CIA guys just remembered the old ad and took a sip of Fanta. Remember the famous: "Then we took a sip of" Fanta "and stopped ..." So even the presidential board stopped laughing But Anna Karenina did not drink "Fanta", there was no her then ... request

    -Starik Tolstoy conceived a remake of Annie Karenina. I finished bi writing if urine hadn’t hit her head to run to the Astapovo station with a bunch of flowers in her trembling hands, and in her pants. wassat . -And the remake was conceived as the novel "Anna" and the novel "Karenina". Two novels. After the trouble with the Sapsan train, the heroine fell into a split personality. On Anna, and on Karenina. And a little-known detail of the first "A.K-na" - Radishev stood in Sapsan and smoked Belomor. Having become an eyewitness of the heroine's trouble with Sapsan, Radishev puffed a cigarette on his boots, mumbling melancholy - What are the trams do something, but ...
  19. bomg.77
    bomg.77 5 July 2013 10: 38 New
    12
    you can take it to that 160, I think there will be no diplomatic problems.
    1. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 5 July 2013 20: 09 New
      0
      By the way, it's a great idea to drive a couple of Carcasses there with a friendly landing at the international airport of the capital, Or you can rush to the Furious himself at the weekend with the main Il to those parts, meet with friends, remember Hugo Chavez (the Kingdom of Heaven), for one Western "partners" troll. Grace
  20. kostofan
    kostofan 5 July 2013 11: 03 New
    0
    Snowden as an Example.
  21. Cherdak
    Cherdak 5 July 2013 11: 05 New
    +2
    Quote: S_mirnov
    Here a brave man spoke at the rally:


    He forgot the basic rule: "You will be imprisoned, but you should not steal" - you have to be honest not only at rallies. To scratch with your tongue is not to roll bags.
  22. serge
    serge 5 July 2013 11: 07 New
    +1
    Snowden is worse than bird flu. The price of the question is zero, but it is exaggerated absolutely everywhere, as if there were no others.
  23. does it
    does it 5 July 2013 11: 08 New
    0
    The President of Bolivia was detained at the airport for 12 hours, during which a plane was searched
    and what would happen if this were done with the president of the United States or Russia.
  24. Opera
    Opera 5 July 2013 11: 10 New
    +3
    Quote: bomg.77
    you can take it to that 160, I think there will be no diplomatic problems.

    Yes, you do not need to take him anywhere - a person works ...
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 5 July 2013 13: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Oper
      and you don’t need to take him anywhere - a person works.

      well if it works then okay laughing
  25. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 5 July 2013 11: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: INTER
    I’m wondering what the Americans would do if the plane with the US president would just as impudently land and search, for example, in Bolivia or Ecuador, and in Russia ?????? what

    All aircraft carriers would splash amicably along the coast, and a no-fly zone was introduced over the territory! With us, of course, it’s more difficult ...
  26. Strashila
    Strashila 5 July 2013 11: 54 New
    +1
    He didn’t say anything new globally, he voiced commonplace truths, everyone watches everyone at any level. There is one exception, he voiced how and where, which is actually tantamount to surrendering an agent network, now it's up to analysts to calculate moles.
  27. Muxauk
    Muxauk 5 July 2013 12: 01 New
    +1
    I liked the training manuals very much :)))))
    Well, to slow down the president of a foreign country for just so brazenly, Europe wanted to hear a good tuzik ??
  28. Muxauk
    Muxauk 5 July 2013 12: 02 New
    0
    I liked the training manuals very much :)))))
    Well, to slow down the president of a foreign country for just so brazenly, Europe wanted to hear a good tuzik ??
  29. Jorg
    Jorg 5 July 2013 12: 10 New
    0
    I dare to add: As they say, watch your hand!
    I wonder what kind of turn this action will take.
    Perhaps all this is another CIA game on a grand scale and Snowden Cossack mishandled?
    Rave?
    Maybe so, but doubts gnaw at me ...
  30. Lexagun
    Lexagun 5 July 2013 12: 37 New
    +2
    Recently, just on the day that Snowden did not fly out of the ball, the reasons were discussed. After voicing which baracabama He made public statements with his foot open: “Well, what are you, what are you, what kind of fighter aircraft, let yourself fly wherever you want, it’s not really supposed to be needed.” I understand that talking about trust in American politics is therefore pointless and will not be anymore. Latins discovered something new? or we?

    Is there any fuss with Snowden all this hype?

    From this sheep, even a scrap of wool will not be.

    The secret that Snowden told the world has never been a secret, not only for specialists, but for all just wise.

    Open secret.

    The Internet as a means of communication, its main servers, data centers are located in the territory and in the jurisdiction of the United States and England. The main regulators are there. soft giants providing an acceptable level of user interaction with space again there. In Sweden, three or four years ago, they adopted a special law that allows direct control (to illustrate) the traffic of other countries, at that time 80% of Russian traffic passed through Sweden and our sluggish protest (all of which makes no sense) did not respond at all to the Swedes.

    Continue? The main operating systems were created under the control of the military and special services. And the authors and real owners do not need any PRIZM program to control the performance of Windows or its analogues, as well as the contents of the computer under these operating systems. Once the IBM Company created PC-DOS for utilitarian purposes, well, think about why they should give a means of control over technology and to whom to give it? sucker Gates? who was never a programmer and was not an IT specialist at that time. But he was the son of fairly high-ranking officials from the Pentagon. The state imitated the "civility" of the Melkomyagkies in order to avoid ... but who needs to know everything. It is no coincidence that all serious departments received a ban on Windows as an operating system back in the mid-90s. Well, besides the Pentagon (Authors / owners of the Internet as a network, they are the same) There are enough other players in the states who are eager for the same and guess who the "rotten apple" loves more - the secret service (this is a name, something like the FSO) or the NSA I don't even interesting (although if anyone is interested it will be the NSA). They are all there, and everything from there and their success, both personal and company, is most often ensured by state participation (access to loans, information, favored treatment, cleansing of competitors), and legends about the personal genius of a fag (this is not a curse, this is a definition) from Facebook and people like him, let's put it mildly, are greatly exaggerated.

    Competing among themselves, they are nevertheless all against us.

    And therefore, returning to Snowden, all the hype with him is most likely just a divorce, a trap for a fool, it is not by chance that the Chinese simply shoved him out, we just can’t do it, nobody takes it.

    Is Snowden a provocation?

    Actually, when the provocation is uncovered (namely, the conditions put forward by Putin speaks), the return of the loser’s agent so that he would not admit to divorcing everyone becomes an archival task, so that not only the president of Bolivia would be imprisoned, but everyone who couldn’t cheat in response Something more serious than Matyuk.
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 5 July 2013 23: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Lexagun
      (namely, the conditions put forward by Putin speaks about this)

      + 100500.
  31. individual
    individual 5 July 2013 12: 42 New
    +3
    The entire vaunted Western "democracy" of Europe fell into the sludge of US interests.
    1. fisherman
      fisherman 5 July 2013 13: 11 New
      +1
      precipitated


      the more truth comes out, the better :)
  32. individual
    individual 5 July 2013 12: 49 New
    +4
    Uncle Sam said it is necessary - the whole world answered there.
    And only Putin said intricately ...
    As in a joke about the weather:
    "In Hong Kong it is clear, in Havana it is clear, and only in Moscow, as always, nothing is clear."
  33. Russ69
    Russ69 5 July 2013 13: 05 New
    +6
    laughing A former CIA agent, Edward Snowden, hiding from US authorities, said he was ready to positively consider the proposal of the former Russian intelligence agent Anna Chapman to marry her. Thus, the young man hopes to solve the problem of asylum in Russia.

    "I would have married Chapman no matter what. God, just look at her!" - he wrote on his Twitter page. Marriage with a Russian citizen could become for Snowden a way out of the "suspended" position between heaven and earth, inform

    http://www.dni.ru/society/2013/7/5/255607.html
    1. smile
      smile 5 July 2013 14: 18 New
      +2
      Russ69
      Yeah, it was precisely on the basis of this marriage that cunning Hollywood made films of the "Children of Spies" series in advance ... :))) .. this whole situation is already becoming like a joke ... if it hadn't been for the planes. did not search foreign presidents ...
    2. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka 5 July 2013 23: 03 New
      -2
      Quote: Russ69
      would marry Chapman, no matter what.

      One hundred ha ha .... Like a gritsa-Only having discarded all economic components, we can talk about love!
  34. Committee
    Committee 5 July 2013 13: 15 New
    -9
    But Snowden is a traitor and must be extradited, gutted and extradited.
    1. Anhaght
      Anhaght 5 July 2013 15: 53 New
      +2
      And you do not focus on Western values? Do not disturb anxiety until the anxiety itself has disturbed you. MAY BE HURT ...
      1. Committee
        Committee 5 July 2013 16: 37 New
        -5
        What are you talking about, flashed like splashed? Snowden is definitely a traitor to his country. We need to get everything out of it (everything that knows and does not know, but remembers) and throw it away as an unnecessary rag.
        1. skullcap
          skullcap 5 July 2013 18: 11 New
          +3
          Quote: Committee
          Snowden is definitely a traitor to his country.

          And I have the same opinion about you.
    2. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 5 July 2013 20: 14 New
      +1
      You see, the world is multifaceted, certainly from the American point of view you are right, it is a traitor to your homeland (although there is no such concept in the West). But on our part, it turns out to be poor, misled, but publicly repenting of the poor fellow, who was dragged into a bad company by the evil will of fate. And how to be here?
      1. Committee
        Committee 6 July 2013 12: 46 New
        -1
        Well, probably regret it. Although he was not in the sandbox playing toys.
  35. Masterzserg
    Masterzserg 5 July 2013 13: 28 New
    +3
    Despite the ambitions and ambition of the geyropa, she has long lost the ability to solve something on her own. The countries of Europe are essentially colonies of the United States, vassals, but rather a litter that dutifully and scrupulously, with a proud look and self-esteem, twirls at the Amerisos, where it needs to be brought up, where it is necessary for the interests of the United States it will send its people to death, where it needs to be bent. They already learned to bend down)))
    1. Lexagun
      Lexagun 5 July 2013 13: 52 New
      0
      Europe? not necessarily a colony, Europe could have been bred. Indeed, from the scandal with the Snowden scandal, the Europeans suffered the most damage so far. The states raped them on the one hand - they listen as they want, and on the other they set it up (morales). And who? the states are in coupe with Russia and China
      1. Masterzserg
        Masterzserg 5 July 2013 15: 03 New
        +3
        Quote: Lexagun
        Indeed, from the scandal with the Snowden scandal, the Europeans suffered the most damage so far.
        - what damage? It is clear to everyone that Europe is only a tool.
        Quote: Lexagun
        The states raped them on the one hand - they listen as they want
        - honestly, it seems to me that the surprise (about wiretapping) is feigned, it is clear to a fool that all the world's secret services "listen" to each other to the best of their technical capabilities. So that they have them and so they knew.
        Quote: Lexagun
        and on the other they framed (morales).
        - And what are they supposed to do with this alleged setup? they were told they did, how did China set them up in a compartment from the us? And how did the Russian Federation substitute exactly in the compartment from the USA?

        Stupidly, Europe did what they were ordered from the usa, once again showing that it obeys and obeys, that's all, you made up some kind of intrigue networks: they set them up ... that's when soldiers of European countries are killed in adventures unleashed by amerisos, for the interests not their country - this is a setup. And then what a setup? Like China, Russia and the states "in a compartment" got together, conferred, came up with a scenario about Snowden and outraged Europe together, now they can't laugh) A moralis is waiting for a fee for a brilliantly played role? Bullshit. Europe is dancing to the tune of the United States and the whole intrigue and the whole secret, they may be outraged, obtyavkatsya in the United States, but this is so, for the sake of joke, in the United States they will not even hear it.
        1. Bashkaus
          Bashkaus 5 July 2013 20: 23 New
          0
          I think that Russia could just substitute the West by organizing the "legend" well. Morales flew in, let the dezu go where necessary. The West sincerely believed that Snowden was awakening aboard. Morales, as they say, deliberately flew into the muddy water where the pike are found, the pike have pecked, and instead of a livelihood they have a spoon with hooks in their mouth, only through the backside and up to the tonsils. Now Morales pokes his finger at them among his friends and says "look what s ... ki", but they do not know how to fuck up, because the baubles in the f ... ne caught on, and Volodya looks at everything with beer and popcorn.
          1. Tverichanka
            Tverichanka 5 July 2013 23: 08 New
            +1
            Quote: Bashkaus
            and popcorn.

            Fi ... We like to consume beer with dried fish, with fish ...
  36. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 5 July 2013 13: 51 New
    0
    Here are my friends, how to deal with Europe (amers showed well). And then the snot-screams, solid semolina porridge. I wanted to also speak out, but after reading the "dialogue" I think you can't say better (crap crap)! I mean orff his dialogue. plus him +++++
  37. MG42
    MG42 5 July 2013 16: 05 New
    +3
    Ah ah ah, what a nonsense however ... fellow wassat

    In the process, the United States bent all Europe and South America in the person of Bolivia, it’s really funny, after outraged statements about wiretapping, the wounds are fresh on the ass of European top officials repeat
    And here is the reaction from South America >>>
    Moscow, July 5 - AIF-Moscow. PBolivian resident Evo Morales held an emergency meeting of several leaders of Latin American countries, at which he warned of the possibility of closing the US embassy in the country.
    “I met with the leaders of my party (The Movement for Socialism”), and they asked me to take action. If necessary, I will close the US Embassy, ​​”Morales said in a statement to the Associated Press.
    The meeting was also attended by the heads of Argentina, Venezuela, Suriname, Uruguay and Ecuador.
    Recall, the Bolivian president’s plane left Moscow on Tuesday and was forced to land in Vienna, as France and Portugal revoked their permission to use airspace and airports. The Bolivian authorities believe that this is due to suspicions that Morales could have runaway ex-CIA agent Edward Snowden on board.
    Austrian authorities raided the plane of Bolivian President Evo Morales, suspecting that the head of the Latin American state was secretly carrying a former CIA officer.

    http://www.aif.ru/politics/news/402494
    Although it’s such a spit to seize the president that closing the embassy is not enough ..
  38. piotr534
    piotr534 5 July 2013 16: 13 New
    +2
    Obama once again showed the whole world what the word of the Amer’s president is worth. He promised not to land the scheduled Moscow-Havana and didn’t deceive, but there wasn’t a bazaar on the presidential plane’s account. laughing It’s good that Snowden didn’t have any interest in knowing, if not a native American, about the high moral principles of the US political elite. It seems that amers recently, in particular, think that they themselves do the most damage to their image. fool
  39. Naval
    Naval 5 July 2013 18: 21 New
    +2
    The nerves simply could not stand the nerves, the Chinese ignored, Russia politely refused, the Latins agree, despite the pressure, to consider the application for political asylum. So they suffered ... We decided to show the status quo, to show who the boss is in the house, they say tremble, it's too early to write us off, we are still a superpower ... Although it seems to me that this is agony, although the agonizing beast is very dangerous.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 6 July 2013 09: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Naval
      ... They decided to show the status quo, show who is the boss in the house, they say tremble, it's too early to write us off, we are still a superpower ..

      After what happened, no country can be sure of a guarantee of security.
      In fact, they silently buried the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Immunities, now we can safely state the lack of law in this area !!!
      It remains only Asange to drag out of the embassy for hair and hello 3 world!
  40. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 5 July 2013 18: 53 New
    +2
    From the cartoon "Mowgli":
    - Stand, is Shirkhan the leader of the pack? Or are you jackals to cringe in front of him?
    - Be quiet, human cub!
    “Something smelled like carrion.”

    I sobbed !!! laughing laughing laughing
  41. GUSAR
    GUSAR 5 July 2013 21: 00 New
    -6
    Did someone already prove that Urlashov took it? Well, if you look at the federal channels, then everything is already decided, it’s clear how ... But in general, at least someone knows why in Yaroslavl they hate the party of crooks and thieves and support Urlashov ?!
    1. Masterzserg
      Masterzserg 5 July 2013 23: 19 New
      +2
      And enlighten, interesting.
      1. GUSAR
        GUSAR 6 July 2013 00: 28 New
        0
        Have you heard about HC Lokomotiv 07.09.2011/XNUMX/XNUMX? Well and still mnooooooogo what ...
        1. Masterzserg
          Masterzserg 6 July 2013 13: 06 New
          +4
          Quote: GUSAR
          Have you heard about HC Lokomotiv 07.09.2011/XNUMX/XNUMX?
          So what's this ??? unicorns from the "needle" shot down the plane? And where was Urlashov? Didn't have time to prevent it? Is there any information about who specifically from United Russia held the MANPADS? It was definitely a "needle", maybe not a "needle" ... It would be nice to know exactly who fired, is it our production of anti-aircraft missiles? Or Israel again. Did Urlashov say anything about the Jewish trace before his arrest? this information should also be checked.

          Quote: GUSAR
          Well and still mnooooooogo what ...

          Comrade Our underground cell is counting on you! Be careful while Uralshov is detained, you remain the main thing, we will need any information, you understand, any !!! Even the most inconspicuous of them can become useful. And yet, I beg you, do not sleep at night, watch out for UFOs! Communication only through this site. Before communication, ally!
          1. GUSAR
            GUSAR 6 July 2013 14: 44 New
            -2
            You should go to the doctor ... And the fact that on September 07.09.2011, XNUMX in Yaroslavl there was a summit to which we arrived, you know who you remember? They rushed the plane with the Locomotive, let’s go faster, otherwise these will fly, so they took off ... Well, the pilots, who also died, were naturally to blame. And I will not list about all the fun of PZhiV and Co., read it yourself. And beads in front of pigs are not tossed in my style !!!
            1. Masterzserg
              Masterzserg 6 July 2013 16: 45 New
              +2
              Quote: GUSAR
              They rushed the plane with the Locomotive, come on, or else these will fly, so they took off ...
              - Who specifically rushed? Who gave you this information? What exactly happened when seriously taking this theory of rushing? The pilot disguised himself from haste and what was next?
              Quote: GUSAR
              And I will not list about all the fun of PZhiV and Co., read it yourself.
              - like you, I wrote the same one, heard something somewhere, thought up something, thought up something, and I read this delirium should?
              Quote: GUSAR
              And beads in front of pigs are not tossed in my style !!!
              - beads? it is very presumptuous. So far it’s like throwing cow cakes laughing .
              1. GUSAR
                GUSAR 6 July 2013 19: 02 New
                -1
                I just live in Yaroslavl, from here it is certainly more visible what is happening with us
                1. Masterzserg
                  Masterzserg 6 July 2013 19: 37 New
                  +2
                  Quote: GUSAR
                  I just live in Yaroslavl, from here it is certainly more visible what is happening with us
                  - this is just an awesome argument! I am stunned and overwhelmed by the sharpness and sparkle of your argument. You toss me beads with your talent, the film Green Elephant reminded me. Association. laughing
                  1. GUSAR
                    GUSAR 6 July 2013 19: 59 New
                    -1
                    And you reminded me of an ordinary lumpen ...
                    1. Masterzserg
                      Masterzserg 6 July 2013 22: 41 New
                      +2
                      Quote: GUSAR
                      And you reminded me of an ordinary lumpen ...
                      - and what are unusual? laughing
          2. GUSAR
            GUSAR 6 July 2013 14: 51 New
            0
            You should go to the doctor ... And the fact that on September 07.09.2011, XNUMX in Yaroslavl there was a summit to which we arrived, you know who you remember? They rushed the plane with the Locomotive, let’s go faster, otherwise these will fly, so they took off ... Well, the pilots, who also died, were naturally to blame. And I will not list about all the fun of PZhiV and Co., read it yourself. And beads in front of pigs are not tossed in my style !!!
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 6 July 2013 21: 30 New
              +2
              Quote: GUSAR
              come on faster, otherwise these will fly, so they took off ...

              As far as I remember, in such cases everyone is pressed to the ground, the Schaub underfoot in the air was not flickered.
              Read about the work of air traffic controllers, it’s amazing how planes don’t fight every day!
              Yes, even
              Quote: GUSAR
              faster, otherwise these will fly,

              And these, you know who, you went in the stealth mode and observed radio silence. Nobody knew the time!
              Believe me, when they start to nod to the top, it means nodding head over heels in, well, you know what.
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  43. GUSAR
    GUSAR 5 July 2013 22: 01 New
    -3
    Muscovites minuses instructed crying
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 6 July 2013 22: 52 New
      -2
      Quote: GUSAR
      Muscovites minuses instructed

      Not a Muscovite, you and Muscovites are likely to be in the same team hi
  44. Cpa
    Cpa 6 July 2013 16: 39 New
    0
    It would be better if we took care of our airplanes. The Turks wanted to land the next plane to Syria, and they landed. The Tajiks wanted to land Russian pilots, and they landed. Cases that have become ubiquitous. Our only mumbled in return. For this, their planes must be turned inside out and left on take off, so it wasn’t bad! You look, and you will find something obscene.
    ZY Amer is clumsy working, their foreign policy is cracking at the seams, if they have not found other methods. Not from a great mind such kookies.
  45. Cynic
    Cynic 6 July 2013 22: 11 New
    +1
    What is interesting is that there are only two minuses for the article now, and judging by the forum, there are more mountains that consider it inadequate in the state!
    wink