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Instructions for American soldiers captured

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Instructions for American soldiers captured



If you
Will fall in captivity
here are your rights


The purpose of this booklet is to familiarize you with some of the rights of a prisoner of war. Knowing them can help to survive what is happening is less difficult and humiliating, if you still do not get lucky and you will be captured by the enemy.

And remember this: The United States treats prisoners according to rules. You have the right to demand that the captive do the same.

Military Department,
Washington 25, DC, 16 May 1944

Military Department Pamphlet No. 21-7. “If you are captured, here are your rights” published for information and instruction of all concerned.
{AG 383.6 (21 Mar 44)}
By order of the Secretary of War:

J.S. Marshall
Chief of General Staff

RESPONSIBLE:
Jay Hey. Julio
Major General,
Adjutant General.




Bad to be a prisoner of war.

You live behind barbed wire, under constant guard.

You can not move freely, because the prisoner does not come change. You are there for a long time.
Terrible monotony.

Everything resembles a guardhouse with an indefinite sentence. Everything happens harder and longer than the prisoners you once saw being a guard in the United States.

However, even in the guardhouse prisoners remained in a rich, friendly country. As a prisoner of war you are in an enemy country, living with the enemy. You do not live better than the enemy, and is hardly as good as the American soldier. If you're lucky, your invader will treat you no better than his rear soldiers. In the Axis countries, all food goes mostly to the front line. In the rear, the population eats what remains. As a prisoner of war you do not have to rely on either.

However, there are certain rules about prisoners of war. “The Geneva Convention in the Treatment of Prisoners of War” contains rules that state what you should do and what you can not do. She also says that the enemy can and cannot do with you.



From the moment you are captured you have certain rights. Even before you were taken to a prisoner of war camp, these rights apply.

Defend your rights, but always do it with military courtesy and firmness. The enemy will respect you for it.

You are always required to treat humanely.

Illegal punishments are not permitted against you. You cannot be punished for what someone else did.

You must be protected from insults or acts of violence by military or civilians of the enemy.

If you are injured or sick, you are entitled to the same medical care as an army member of the enemy.

The enemy is obliged to dress, feed and provide you with shelter.

You are a prisoner of war, not a criminal.



During the interrogation, regardless of the position of the enemy, you must give your name, rank and identification number. The enemy cannot legally get other information from you.

Do not discuss any military issues with anyone.

Soldier "Allies" may be an agent of enemy intelligence.

Forget everything you knew about your Army. Do not say anything if someone wants to discuss even minor details with you.



To the enemy who has captured you, you must surrender the entire military materiel, except the helmet and gas mask. In any case, the enemy should not take away your personal belongings such as your documents, signs denoting rank, personal papers, wallet, or photographs (unless they have military value).

The money you own can be withdrawn only on the orders of the officer and after determining the exact amount. On this you are required to issue a receipt. Require a receipt. It is your right.

Any money taken from you must be entered into your personal file and returned after release.



If you are an ordinary prisoner of war, then you must greet all the officers of the enemy. If you are a prisoner officer, then you only welcome enemy officers of equal or higher rank. You are using your military salute, not the enemy's one.

With regard to other issues of military courtesy and discipline, you have the same rights and obligations as a similar member of the enemy army.

You are subject to all laws, regulations and orders in force in the army of the enemy. You can be tried and convicted if punished for violating the rules of the enemy. However, in your punishment can not be accompanied by cruelty. In general, arrest, imprisonment and disciplinary punishment may be applied to you in the same way as to an adversary of equal rank.

If you try to escape and get caught, you may be imprisoned for no more than 30 days. However, if you use violence, then you can get a lot more punishment for 30 days for trying to escape. If you have committed any civil offense, then you will be punished according to the civil laws of the enemy and the tribunal of the enemy.

After serving a sentence for trying to escape, this attempt will not be made against you if you try to escape again and are caught.



One of your most important rights is the right to request that you be shown a copy of the Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War. It must be in English.

If you do not ask for a copy of the Geneva Convention and do not read it, then it is your own merit that some of your rights will be withheld from you.

All instilled in the war in which you live in captivity, are contained in the Geneva Convention. Let the formal title not confuse you. The text itself, containing much-needed information for you, is clear and easy to write. If something is not clear to you there, you have the right to contact, through your representative, the camp administration for clarification.

May the Geneva Convention be your Basic Field Charter during your time in captivity.

Read it!



One of the most important that the Geneva Convention guarantees is the right of prisoners of war to choose the same prisoner as their representative, to resolve any issues with the administration of the prisoner of war camp or with representatives of the protecting power. However, the representative must be approved by the camp administration. Any protests or complaints you wish to make must be made through your camp representative.
The patron power is a neutral country that acts as an intermediary for resolving complaints and grievances between you and the enemy.

The patron power of the United States is Switzerland.

When a Swiss government official visits the camp where you are being held, you have the right to talk to him privately if you wish.



If you are a private or private first class, you must work in a work crew as ordered.

If you are a non-commissioned officer, you can only be used in a controlling position.

If you are an officer, then you cannot be assigned to any job unless you ask for it yourself.
You should not be required to perform hazardous or unhealthy work.

You should not be involved in any work that is directly related to military action. For example - you should not be used in production and transportation weapons or ammunition, or in the transportation of any supply for active troops. If you are ordered to do this, you have the right to protest through your representative, but at the same time you must continue to do the work.



Here are some of the rights guaranteed by the Geneva Convention:

You can receive letters and parcels from home.

2. You can write the agreed number of letters every month.

You can tell your family that you were captured.

You can get books.

You can save your religion.

Like a prisoner of war in a difficult position, but -
The army has not forgotten you -
The Red Cross and the Protecting Power are doing everything for you -
Your family and friends know where you will contact you -

Your own soldier's pride is always with you.
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  1. Fox
    Fox 5 July 2013 08: 32
    18
    whoever composed this, didn’t see anything further than his office. He himself wrote, believes in the campaign in this nonsense!
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 5 July 2013 08: 40
      22
      Quote: Fox
      whoever composed this, didn’t see anything further than his office. He himself wrote, believes in the campaign in this nonsense!

      So it is, but the content of the Americans and the British in the camps was very different from the content of our fighters.
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 5 July 2013 15: 29
        +5
        So these prisoners, eggs from the same nest with the Germans!
        1. Beck
          Beck 5 July 2013 20: 54
          -5
          Quote: Vladimirets
          So it is, but the content of the Americans and the British in the camps was very different from the content of our fighters.


          Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
          So these prisoners, eggs from the same nest with the Germans!


          That's it, do not confuse the eggs. And do not confuse the fascist regime with a normal state and the fascist captivity with the usual captivity.

          The Geneva Convention on Prisoners of War (second) entered into force on June 19, 1931. And it was developed on the basis of civilized motives, and not anti-human, fascist. Who knew that fascism would come to power in 1933.

          Our prisoners of war got the most. No letters, no parcels, no help from the international Red Cross, nor relevant content. The Nazis did not count our soldiers as normal prisoners of war. And because so that SIGNATURES The USSR was not under the Geneva Convention. Stalin refused to sign it, already predetermining that there could be no prisoners of war, but only cowards and traitors. That is, the soldiers of the Red Army remained outside the framework of the international agreement. This is what the Nazis took advantage of.
          1. Apologet.Ru
            Apologet.Ru 5 July 2013 21: 06
            +7
            hi
            The Nazis did not count our soldiers as normal prisoners of war. And so because the SIGNATURES of the USSR under the Geneva Convention was not.

            In fact, compliance with the convention is not based on reciprocity: “If in case of war one of the belligerents turns out to be not participating in convention However such provisions remain binding all warring convention signatories».
            1. Beck
              Beck 5 July 2013 21: 17
              0
              Quote: Apologet.Ru
              “If in case of war one of the belligerents appears to be not participating in the convention, nevertheless, its provisions remain binding on all belligerents who have signed the convention.”


              I agree. But I wrote above that the convention was developed out of civilized motives. If our soldiers were held captive by, say, France, they would have acted with them as definitely a convention. But the captivity was fascist. The Nazis found an excuse that there was no USSR signature on the convention.

              And it seems, I definitely don’t know, the help of the Red Cross is somehow connected with this convention. Type no one will not be the second.
          2. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 6 July 2013 01: 39
            0
            Quote: Beck
            Stalin refused to sign it,


            data!"?
            1. Beck
              Beck 6 July 2013 08: 09
              -1
              Quote: Karlsonn
              data!"?


              Hello! Well, what facts can I give you? A type of such and such a date, in so many minutes there was a meeting of the Council of People's Commissars at which such and those members were present. And it was at this meeting, when discussing from the category - different, Stalin discouraged all others from signing the Geneva Convention. But this is not serious.

              Who was Stalin? Master of the country. Dictator. And if the Geneva Convention does not have the signature of the USSR, then without Stalin it could not have done it.
              1. воронов
                воронов 6 July 2013 20: 56
                0
                Quote: Beck
                Who was Stalin? Master of the country. Dictator.

                I.V. Stalin was the LEADER !!! soldier
                1. Beck
                  Beck 7 July 2013 01: 48
                  0
                  Quote: voronov
                  I.V. Stalin was the LEADER !!!


                  Of course there was a leader, but only for the ardent communists. You can’t say that for the people. For the leader in exile, for eviction, they do not go to concentration camps.
          3. воронов
            воронов 6 July 2013 20: 51
            0
            Quote: Beck
            There was no SIGNATURE of the USSR under the Geneva Convention.

            Are you sure that even if our signature was there, something would have changed?
            1. Beck
              Beck 7 July 2013 01: 39
              0
              Quote: voronov
              Are you sure that even if our signature was there, something would have changed?


              Yeah. Outlook. Either we tear them all or they all beat us.

              I wrote, read carefully. Nothing would have changed with the Nazis, but it was impossible to present PRESCRIPTION to international authorities.
          4. uyrii67
            uyrii67 19 September 2013 23: 35
            0
            At the beginning of the war, Molotov declared that the USSR would comply with the requirements of the convention, just as Germany would comply with these requirements. But he deceived the Germans as prisoners of war, and ours ??? And do not cover the human nature of Nazism with the absence of a signature on a piece of paper !!!
    2. Greyfox
      Greyfox 5 July 2013 08: 48
      +4
      It's just that the Americans did not encounter the Nazi beast as we saw it. Those who wrote this instruction counted on the fact that they were dealing with an army "a la Wilhelm of the 1917-18 model." Although the content of our and allied prisoners is two big differences, but the allies often found themselves in the same conditions. I remember in the 90s one American actor of Mexican origin told that his father, when released from German captivity, could not keep on his feet from dystrophy. And the Japanese treated the captured allies as fascists with ours.
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 5 July 2013 09: 07
        +4
        Quote: Greyfox
        .In 90's, I remember one American actor of Mexican descent said that his father, when released from German captivity, could not stand on his feet from dystrophy. And the Japanese treated the captured allies as fascists with ours.


        Well, the amers also did not hesitate, if you are Japanese at 1 / 16 (do not care that you are a US citizen), then you are dear to a concentration camp.
        Well, films about how the Japanese lived in captivity with Amers, for obvious reasons - no.
        1. Greyfox
          Greyfox 5 July 2013 09: 52
          -8
          Quote: Karlsonn
          Quote: Greyfox
          .In 90's, I remember one American actor of Mexican descent said that his father, when released from German captivity, could not stand on his feet from dystrophy. And the Japanese treated the captured allies as fascists with ours.


          Well, the amers also did not hesitate, if you are Japanese at 1 / 16 (do not care that you are a US citizen), then you are dear to a concentration camp.
          Well, films about how the Japanese lived in captivity with Amers, for obvious reasons - no.

          The Americans, in general, did exactly the same as ours did with Soviet citizens of German nationality (in the Volga region, for example). So, it’s at least strange to condemn them for this. I don’t know about the Japanese prisoners (soldiers), but the Germans who were captured in the United States lived by the standards of the prisoners are very unclean to themselves.
          1. newnutella
            newnutella 5 July 2013 10: 31
            +4
            Oh how wrong you are! An article about American camps was published here on the site. I advise you to read, then you will know how the Germans lived with the Americans.
            What were the open camps where they were simply stuffed on a piece of land in barbed wire where you could only stand.
            1. Greyfox
              Greyfox 5 July 2013 11: 30
              0
              Oh, how right I am! You probably read the copy-paste of the article "Eisenhower's death camp." It was about the Germans, who were formed in millions after the surrender of Germany and were kept on its territory. I am talking about the Germans who were transferred to the USA and Canada after the capitulation of the Afrika Korps. See how the Germans are "exhausted" in the back of a truck by collecting beets in the fields of South Dakota (a lone guard with a rifle looks thinner than his prisoners)!
              1. newnutella
                newnutella 5 July 2013 12: 07
                0
                here is the article itself. What is the difference from that?
                http://topwar.ru/1452-lagerya-smerti-yejzenxauyera.html
                1. Greyfox
                  Greyfox 5 July 2013 12: 43
                  +2
                  And from the fact that the active Allied army in Europe saw the REAL Germans, and not those about whom they wrote the instructions. The Allies saw concentration camps, shot prisoners and it started ... And something in this case, I don't really feel sorry for the Germans, and blame the Americans that they did not save the prisoners of the "Zoldaten", who quite possibly gloriously "poured" on our territory, I cannot.
                  1. Rider
                    Rider 5 July 2013 13: 29
                    0
                    Quote: Greyfox
                    And something in this case, I don’t feel sorry for the Germans


                    totally agree.
                    Quote: Greyfox
                    and I cannot blame the Americans that they did not save the prisoners of the "Zoldaten", who quite possibly gloriously "poured" on our territory, I cannot.

                    on the other hand, you can, on occasion, kick "our" cryoprotectors, denouncers of the "prison of peoples" and "the inhumanity of the red-headed redhead."
                    so loving to masturbate to the elven west.
          2. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 5 July 2013 13: 20
            +2
            Quote: Greyfox
            The Americans, in general, did exactly the same as ours did with Soviet citizens of German nationality (for example, in the Volga region).


            Soft with warm should not be confused!
            If the first time was not read carefully, I repeat:
            - American citizens of Japanese descent were sent to concentration camps!

            Tell me about the Soviet concentration camps where the Volga Germans were exiled.
            Waiting carefully.


            Quote: Greyfox
            I don’t know about the Japanese prisoners (soldiers), but the Germans who were captured in the United States lived by the standards of the prisoners are very unclean to themselves.


            About the Germans, I know, I'm interested in the Japanese.
            1. Greyfox
              Greyfox 5 July 2013 14: 06
              +1
              About the Germans, I know, I'm interested in the Japanese.

              Try to search for information and file an article. Although I intuitively feel that the Japanese were in a captive a shit. And again, because of this, I do not itch in any place and the samurai do not mind. The Japanese atrocities in Asia so that the SS probably burst into jealousy.
              Soft with warm should not be confused!
              If the first time was not read carefully, I repeat:
              - American citizens of Japanese descent were sent to concentration camps!

              According to your tone, we can assume that the American-Japanese were evicted to the analogue of "Dachau" or "Auschwitz". When you are deprived of liberty, it is always bad, but the conditions in the "camps for enemies" were not horror-horror. Moreover, in 1948 compensation was allocated to compensate the internees. A total of 120000 people were sent to the camps, which is soft.
              Now let's move on to the warm one. I will not quote the wiki, but 950000 Germans were evicted, who were forcibly mobilized into the labor army (I will not describe the conditions and nature of work in them either). ICHSH everyone was a Soviet citizen! In 1948 (coincidence with the American Japanese?), All those deported by the Choch were sentenced to eternal exile. Explain in more detail the difference between "warm and soft", otherwise I don't understand why the fate of the Japanese in the United States is worse than the fate of the Soviet Germans?
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 5 July 2013 20: 19
                0
                Quote: Greyfox
                According to your tone, we can assume that the American-Japanese were evicted to the analogue of "Dachau" or "Auschwitz".


                Compare the concentration camp with the death camp here you are.


                Quote: Greyfox
                Moreover, in 1948, compensation was allocated for compensation for damage to internees. Altogether 120000 people were sent to the camps. This is mild for you.


                I have? Oh really?
                In 1948, PARTIAL compensation was paid and not to everyone.
                Compensation was paid to survivors and survivors from 1988 to 1992 inclusive. No need to juggle history.


                Quote: Greyfox
                950000 Germans were evicted, who were forcibly mobilized in the labor army (I won’t describe the conditions and nature of work in them either.) Everyone was a Soviet citizen!


                Otherwise, their fate would be worse --- but this is just my opinion, not necessarily correct.


                Quote: Greyfox
                Explain in more detail the difference between "warm and soft", otherwise I don't understand why the fate of the Japanese in the United States is worse than the fate of the Soviet Germans?


                Learning to read carefully

                Quote: Karlsonn
                if you are 1/16 Japanese (do not care that you are a US citizen), then you are dear to a concentration camp.
            2. il grand casino
              il grand casino 5 July 2013 16: 33
              0
              Quote: Karlsonn

              Tell me about the Soviet concentration camps where the Volga Germans were exiled.
              Waiting carefully.


              Not a concentration camp, of course ... but. Labor camps. Worked up to 16 hours a day. Behind the barbed wire. I am German myself. Grandmother and family went through these camps. Everyone was working. Even the children. Grandfather alone got into the war. He signed up as a Jew. I don’t know how he did it.
              P.S. I realize that everyone plowed like that then. But not everything behind barbed wire
              1. Greyfox
                Greyfox 5 July 2013 17: 58
                0
                Judging by the eloquent silence of Carlson, the fairy tale that the Japanese suffered at the hands of the bloody US government is steeper than the fellow German citizens did not ride.
                To il grand casino My wife is Russian German. So I also know about the labor army not only from the Internet ....
                1. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 5 July 2013 20: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: Greyfox
                  Judging by Carlson’s eloquent silence


                  No need to speak for me.
              2. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 6 July 2013 01: 48
                0
                Quote: il grand casino
                Not a concentration camp, of course ... but. Labor camps. Worked up to 16 hours a day. Behind the barbed wire. I am German myself. Grandmother and family went through these camps. Everyone was working. Even the children. Grandfather alone got into the war. He signed up as a Jew.


                At the time when your ancestors, the exiled rot in the camps, my ancestors were burned alive! My grandfather as a scout, the first came to the square, where his father, my great-grandfather, was executed. Of his age relatives, only he and his brother survived without arms and one leg,

                Quote: il grand casino
                He signed up as a Jew. I don’t know how he did it.


                Germans I always feel you.


                Quote: il grand casino
                I realize that everyone plowed like that then. But not everything behind barbed wire


                My Belarussian and Ukrainian, as well as Russian relatives suffered such losses, defending the right to human life, that without a twinge of conscience I would cut in 14 seconds. hi
                1. il grand casino
                  il grand casino 6 July 2013 12: 42
                  -1
                  Well, I'm half German. And my Russian grandfather and grandmother also had a sweet time. At the grandmother, the sister in front of her mother shot one was 7 second 12 years old. The soldiers wanted to have fun. Grandfather didn’t have anyone from his family. This is not about that. Is it true that my German ancestors were to blame for living beyond the Urals (no one even sent them to them, only drove them to camps). And with the German invaders they had nothing in common. And they were ready to plow no less than others. But the fact remains. They drove to the camp and told to plow there. Although my grandmother’s father was an engineer, for example, and I could bring more benefit to my head than the fact that he fell down the forest. And the fact that men were not allowed to the front either ... I don’t know. Grandfather (German) returning from the front after five wounds and with three military awards, as he tells, it was insulting to tears for the fact that the family was not allowed to work like all Soviet citizens, but was driven to camps.
                  Surely there was a lot of rot among the Soviet Germans. Where was she not? But nevertheless, the bestial attitude towards you is only because of the nationality in the passport.
                  To summarize, everyone got it. But fact is fact. Labor armies were.
                  1. Greyfox
                    Greyfox 6 July 2013 13: 14
                    -1
                    from Karlsonn
                    I always feel you Germans

                    It is because of such "feeling" that most of the Germans left for Germany. The country lost hundreds of thousands of normal people, but the blockheads descended from the mountains everywhere.
                    By the way, on many forums there is a so-called "xoxolosrach", because many "feel" Ukrainians (you are from Ukraine, right?). Doesn't that disgust you?
                    And Karlsonn. The Russian-Ukrainian branch of my wife's relatives suffered from the war no less than yours, my grandfather died in the rear hospital from wounds and exhaustion (he fought on the Volkhov front). Trying this in a country where everyone has such relatives at least ugly. And on the topic you did not say anything sensible ...
                    1. воронов
                      воронов 6 July 2013 21: 10
                      -1
                      Quote: Greyfox
                      It is because of such "feeling" that most of the Germans left for Germany. The country lost hundreds of thousands of normal people, but the blockheads descended from the mountains everywhere.

                      Maybe the "churkobes", as you deigned to call them, and descended from the mountains, but they are full-fledged citizens of Russia and many of them in both Chechens fought on the side of the federal forces, and gave their lives in August 2008. in South Ossetia they showed themselves very well, and their older brothers were earlier in Afghanistan, and their fathers and grandfathers in the Great Patriotic War, if something serious happens, I have no doubt that most of them will fight for Russia, and where to go is their homeland. "hundreds of thousands of normal people" (Germans), at the first boil over the cordon, disappeared.
                      1. Greyfox
                        Greyfox 6 July 2013 21: 42
                        -2
                        Maybe "churkobes", as you deigned to call them, and descended from the mountains, but they are full citizens of Russia and many of them in both Chechens fought on the side of the federal forces

                        In the 90s, "full-fledged citizens of Russia" staged a genocide of Russians in places of their "historical" residence. Then it seemed to them not enough and they staged criminal terror and terror usual on another territory of our country. At the cost of huge sacrifices, there are no, not "full-fledged citizens of Russia." , namely CHURKOBESOV managed to be put into the framework. And people like Captain Ullmann (German) showed them this framework. But now he is on the wanted list, the former Organized Crime Control Organizations are fighting "extremists", and the CHURKOBES, oh excuse me, "full citizens of Russia" are terrorizing Russian cities again. They look like brothers to some, but not to me.
                        PS I didn’t mean all Caucasians without exception — among them there are normal people and really worthy citizens.
                        PPS And on the minuses that the brothers of "full-fledged citizens of Russia" give me, I put ...
                      2. воронов
                        воронов 6 July 2013 22: 38
                        0
                        Quote: Greyfox
                        such as Captain Ullmann (German).

                        Captain Ulman is a worthy officer of the Russian army and he is an exception, I quote you, from "hundreds of thousands of normal people" (Germans)
                      3. воронов
                        воронов 6 July 2013 22: 40
                        0
                        Quote: Greyfox
                        And on the minuses that the brothers of "full citizens of Russia" give me, I put

                        Do not overdo it laughing
                      4. Greyfox
                        Greyfox 7 July 2013 08: 10
                        0
                        When you are cut off on the highway or in a dark alley, "full-fledged chokobes of Russia" meet you, kiss them in the gums ... They are "kaukas biratya" for you. They will then be given administrative control for your guts, because you yourself will fall on their knives. Do not trust? Check the Internet for the latest incident with three monkeys and a motorcyclist in Moscow.
                        Do not overdo it

                        So it got you down? It means exactly "birat"
  2. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 5 July 2013 21: 33
    0
    There is a book with a simple title "It was in Dachau", one European, I think a Belgian. I recommend. Americans got a lot of these rights, a lot. And I personally cannot forgive the Red Cross for the way they behaved in the Great Patriotic War. For me, they are even more beast than the Nazis. Those at least did not pretend to be angels ...
  • Poppy
    Poppy 5 July 2013 10: 56
    +2
    the funny thing is that the British and Americans were kept
  • avdkrd
    avdkrd 6 July 2013 03: 29
    +1
    article plus, for a long time did not laugh. Instructions are worthless. The Geneva Convention can be observed by the belligerents only in two cases - 1. if the armed conflict is not a war of survival, but only "light armed tension" 2. if the controller of the implementation of the convention will be a representative of GOD with a punitive function.
    In fact, there is not a single war where the Geneva Convention would be fully observed by all parties. Modern conflicts only confirm this rule. A strong, victorious or victorious party (especially politically) can always take the enemy outside the framework of the convention. Examples are everywhere and everywhere. During the attack on Yugoslavia, Serbian leaders were accused of crimes against humanity, although the West presented the separatists (murderers, rapists, dismemberments and just bandits) as freedom fighters. We are not talking about "double standards", but about "black rhetoric", when concepts are substituted and black is called white. In recent history, the Geneva Convention is not observed AT ALL. Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria - has it been observed in at least one conflict? For fun, I'll ask the members of the forum - would you follow this fucking convention, in relation to the invaders who would come to destroy you as a nation (to carry democracy) ???
    PS Hitler's Germany and ASP have about the same tasks, to destroy geopolitical competitors and it seems to me that they will try to solve them by the same methods. The methods of dealing with them will not differ in the same grace - in which case we will rip their mouth with their own flag. The prisoners may not be very worried, I think they will really be allowed to receive parcels from relatives, but in connection with the care of their health - by email))))
  • Russ69
    Russ69 5 July 2013 08: 41
    +2
    This is a memorial to the times of the Second World War, but now they have changed something. I would like to look.
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 5 July 2013 09: 19
      +6
      Quote: Russ69
      This is a memorial to the times of the Second World War, but now they have changed something. I would like to look.


      What for? If you are a threat to US national security, then according to Amer’s laws you have no rights whatsoever, they’ll abduct you, they will torture you, they can kill you, but everything is strictly according to the law, though according to Amer’s, the fact that you are a citizen of another country does not affect the matter .
    2. Mister X
      Mister X 5 July 2013 21: 41
      0
      Quote: Russ69
      This is a memorial to the time of the Second World War, and now something has changed.
      I would like to look.


      I remembered not a memo, but a “cheat sheet” for American pilots.
      American pilots who fought in Asia (Burma, China, etc.) were given the so-called “Blood Ticket”, aka “Security Certificate”.
      One of the options for translating the text of the inscription reads:
      “This foreigner has come to China to help us fight.
      The soldiers and civilians, together and individually, must save him,
      protect, and provide him with medical attention. "


      Pilot Nesbit L. Martin demonstrates information stripes on his A-2 jacket:



      Patch for the Chinese, informs that they will receive a reward,
      if they deliver the aviator to the allies.







      Shuttle Chit for Russian Shuttle Mission. (Jack O'Leary)



      Shuttle Chit for Russian Shuttle Mission. (Jack O'Leary)



      Identification Badge issued for the Russian Shuttle Missions.
      Donated to the 100th Archive by Joseph Strauss.



      Back side of Identification Badge for the Russian Shuttle Missions.
      Donated to the 100th Archive by Joseph Strauss.



      Fragment of the American "security certificate" 1951 of the year
      In Greek, Bulgarian and Russian

      1. Mister X
        Mister X 5 July 2013 21: 46
        +1
        Well, a little soldier humor

        A military translator is interrogating a prisoner of war.
        - Wat from your name?
        - My name is John Smith.
        ... KILLING a prisoner in the face ...
        - Wat from your name?
        - [surprised] My name is John Smith!
        ... KIND! captive in the face ...
        - Wat of yer name ??!
        - (almost crying): My name is John Smith !!!
        ... KINKING !!! captive in the face ...
        - I cha, Syka, I ask how many tanks you have !!! ...
        1. Mister X
          Mister X 5 July 2013 22: 02
          0
          I remembered the novel written by Pierre Boulle: "The Bridge over the River Kwai"
          In my opinion, the film was shot.

          The action takes place in the Burmese jungle, in the Japanese prison camp.
          Among the prisoners stands the English colonel Nicholson.
          He is obsessed with respecting the rights of prisoners of war under the Geneva Convention
          and constantly requires its jailers to comply with these very conditions.
          The Japanese often beat him and put him in a punishment cell, but he does not back down.

          At the end of the film, even their own expressed about him like this:
          "An old donkey with blue eyes."

          Very interesting romance.
          I recommend to read.
      2. Xnumx kopeek
        Xnumx kopeek 7 July 2013 01: 53
        0
        A good last name for the pilot is Nesbit L. Martin.-
        -
        1. Mister X
          Mister X 7 July 2013 15: 53
          0
          For one shot they give two unshot wink
  • Pacifist
    Pacifist 5 July 2013 08: 49
    +3
    They, in other matters, as always, remember the conventions and rights when they get into shit. When, in their opinion, everything is fine, they put a bolt on all this according to the principle "the rest must comply with the agreements, we do not care about the status, we do not care about it" ... examples? Korea, Vietnam, Guantanamo ... Morales in Vienna ...
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 5 July 2013 09: 16
      +2
      Quote: Pacifist
      ... When, in their opinion, everything is fine, they put a bolt on all this according to the principle "the rest must comply with the agreements, we do not care about the status, we do not care about it" ... examples?


      Yes, there are even earlier examples, during the Civil War there were such "wonderful" places in the future USA as:
      - "Andersonville" in the south;
      - "" Douglas "in the north.
      In these concentration camps, according to official figures, every third prisoner of war who crossed their gates died.
      1. Rider
        Rider 5 July 2013 13: 42
        0
        Quote: Karlsonn
        - "Andersonville" in the south;


        anything can be said about Andersonville, but in fact, by the end of the war, the South was on the verge of starvation.
        and feed the Yankees (northerners) better than their own soldiers, the southerners did not succeed.

        and the attitude towards them was to say the least ...
        one Sherman raid through Louisiana to the sea is worth what.
        In fact, it was then that an item such as "scorched earth tactics" was added to the strategy of the American army, which was successfully applied by them later.
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 5 July 2013 20: 22
          0
          Quote: Rider
          anything can be said about Andersonville, but in fact, by the end of the war, the South was on the verge of starvation.
          and feed the Yankees (northerners) better than their own soldiers, the southerners did not succeed.


          I know that the guards and the POWs at Andersonville ate from the same cauldron.


          Quote: Rider
          and the attitude towards them was to say the least ...
          one Sherman raid through Louisiana to the sea is worth what.


          I agree.
  • Vanek
    Vanek 5 July 2013 09: 01
    +2
    Yes, they will spit on these rules.
  • omsbon
    omsbon 5 July 2013 09: 02
    +5
    The terrible content of Soviet prisoners of war, especially before 1943, when many Germans were in our captivity, is an indicator of the "vaunted" Western morality and compliance with the rules invented by them.
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 5 July 2013 09: 27
    +6
    Tell these rights to those captured soldiers and officers who were cut off their heads, made a "red tulip" and other painful death. For a WARRIOR it is better to die, killing as many enemies as possible, as did the Heroes of the Second World War and other lesser known, for a hero, captivity is inconceivable, pride is more precious than life.

    Mujahideen: Geneva Convention? No, have not heard.
    1. KG_patriot_last
      KG_patriot_last 5 July 2013 16: 12
      +2
      Right. In my opinion, in this book there should have been only one sentence: "Do not surrender to captivity!", And the rest are pictures where modern sacrifices are cutting their heads.

      Sometimes there are situations when captivity is inevitable, for example, shell shock or loss of consciousness or lack of ammunition and a wound in the leg ... For these cases, each soldier must be given a pill on his collar. But relatives will not watch on the Internet how they humiliate you.
      1. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 6 July 2013 11: 18
        0
        That's it! Whoever watched the film "Legionnaire" with Van Dam remembers how he shot a friend in the heart a second before they wanted to chop off a friend's head.
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 5 July 2013 09: 55
    0
    I cried. By the way, in the second picture, where about the interrogation, one German officer looks like Paulus, and the other looks like Manstein, they just copied from the newspapers.
  • Nayhas
    Nayhas 5 July 2013 10: 06
    +4
    According to the memoirs of Soviet prisoners of war, the British and Americans were kept in much better conditions, they received letters from home and received help from the Red Cross, the USSR did not sign the Geneva Convention on the Treatment of Prisoners of War, and therefore the Germans did not consider it necessary to extend its conditions to Soviet prisoners of war , although in fact this was not required, since Germany signed it and what's the difference from whose country the prisoner of war.
    1. Poppy
      Poppy 5 July 2013 10: 59
      +2
      just Russians - second-class people, what conventions do they have
      ours and the Germans didn’t stand on ceremony too, although they didn’t intentionally kill and starve
    2. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 5 July 2013 13: 26
      +1
      Quote: Nayhas
      The USSR did not sign the Geneva Convention on the Treatment of Prisoners of War


      this is another bike from liberoids.

      Declaration.

      The undersigned People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics hereby announces that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics adheres to the Convention on the Improvement of the Condition of Prisoners of War, Wounded and Sick in Armed Forces, concluded in Geneva on July 27, 1929.
      In witness whereof the People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, duly authorized for this purpose, has signed this declaration of accession.
      According to the decision of the Central Executive Committee of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics of May 12, 1930, this accession is final and does not need further ratification.

      Done in Moscow on August 25, 1931.

      (signature) Litvinov

      Do not believe? Here are the exact coordinates of the storage location of this document - TsGAOOR USSR Fund 9501, inventory 5, storage unit. 7 case sheet 22.

      Everything that is written in the article below you have the right to ignore and not read. The document itself says it all. The USSR was a signatory to the Geneva Convention on Prisoners of War since 1931!


      Secretly
      Supplement to the journal No. 39058/41
      from 8.IX.41g.
      Orders for the treatment of Soviet prisoners of war in all POW camps

      I. General issues of the treatment of Soviet prisoners of war.

      Bolshevism is the mortal enemy of National Socialist Germany. For the first time, a German soldier faces an adversary trained not only in the military, but also in the political sense, in the spirit of destructive Bolshevism. The struggle against National Socialism is inculcated in him in flesh and blood. He leads it by all means at his disposal: sabotage, rotting propaganda, arson, murder. Therefore, the Bolshevik soldier lost all right to claim treatment with him as an honest soldier in accordance with the Geneva Agreement ...


      http://army.armor.kiev.ua/hist/zenev-konvencia.shtml
      1. Beck
        Beck 7 July 2013 02: 41
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        Quote: Karlsonn
        The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics joins the convention on improving the fate of prisoners of war, wounded and sick in active armies, concluded in Geneva on July 27, 1929.


        Yeah. It didn’t work out well. Why juggle it? Shadow on the fence?

        The first one. The Geneva Convention of 1931 itself consists of two parts -

        1. The Convention on the Improvement of the Condition of the Wounded and Sick in Armed Forces.

        2. And actually the Convention on Prisoners of War.


        According to documents, in 1929 the USSR signed the Convention on improving the fate of the Wounded and Sick in the army, one of the two Geneva Conventions of 1929, but did not sign the Convention on Prisoners of War:

        On July 27, 1929, the Geneva Conference developed a convention on the content of prisoners of war. The Government of the USSR neither took part in drafting this convention nor in ratifying it
        .

        Second. The document provided by Carlson is a distortion by the military "historian" Yu Veremeyev, falsification of this document. In the document of the first part of the Geneva Convention - the Convention for the Amelioration of the Condition of the Wounded and Sick in the Field Army, adopted by the USSR, Veremeyev added one word, before the wounded and sick, Veremeev inserted the word PRISONERS. Although such a document, with words - about improving the fate prisoners of war, wounded and sick - NO in the Geneva Convention itself.

        I admit that Carlson might not know this, then he is excusable.

        So, the USSR did not sign the Prisoners of War Convention. And fascist Germany referred directly to this.

        The Soviet Union did not accede to the agreement of 27.VII.1929 (entered into legal force in 1931) regarding the treatment of prisoners of war. As a result of this, we are not obliged to provide the Soviet prisoners of war with supplies that would comply with this agreement both in quantity and in quality.

        Document D-225 from the Nuremberg Trial.
  • borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 5 July 2013 10: 49
    +1
    from the Don.
    Reading, my eyes went to my forehead !!! What naive, self-confident, stupid phrases in this: essay:. Look at today's presentation of the Americans!
  • Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 5 July 2013 11: 22
    0
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Quote: Fox
    whoever composed this, didn’t see anything further than his office. He himself wrote, believes in the campaign in this nonsense!

    So it is, but the content of the Americans and the British in the camps was very different from the content of our fighters.

    Of course, because if the union began to lose, America and England would be on the side of the Germans.
  • Vanek
    Vanek 5 July 2013 11: 24
    +1
    Here is the picture presented:

    In Afghanistan, captured by the Taliban, an American pokes this brochure in the face of the Taliban. Like, I have rights. That is, no one argues. But there are also responsibilities ...
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 5 July 2013 13: 32
      0
      Quote: Vanek
      In Afghanistan, captured by the Taliban, an American pokes this brochure in the face of the Taliban. Like, I have rights


      In this case, the American is in trouble!
      The Taliban are massively illiterate, but only a few can read English.
  • Zubr
    Zubr 5 July 2013 11: 50
    +1
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Quote: Fox
    whoever composed this, didn’t see anything further than his office. He himself wrote, believes in the campaign in this nonsense!

    So it is, but the content of the Americans and the British in the camps was very different from the content of our fighters.


    SO YES VERY STRONG BECAUSE THEY SIGNED THE VIENNA CONVENTION ON POWERS. And THERE OURS WERE NOT DONE ......
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 5 July 2013 13: 34
      0
      Quote: Zubr
      SO YES VERY STRONG BECAUSE THEY SIGNED THE VIENNA CONVENTION ON POWERS. And THERE OURS WERE NOT DONE ......


      Signed-not signed, it's all like a hare stop signal!
      And the destruction of almost 3 000 000 prisoners of war in the first year of the war is a war crime.
      1. Rider
        Rider 5 July 2013 14: 04
        0
        Quote: Karlsonn
        And the destruction of nearly 3 million prisoners of war in the first year of the war


        Excuse me, Carlson, where did such numbers come from?

        according to German data, for the whole war, 5 Soviet soldiers were captured (including peacekeepers and other non-combatants)

        less than half came back.
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 5 July 2013 20: 31
          +1
          Quote: Rider
          Excuse me, Carlson, where did such numbers come from?


          took German sources

          Hoffmann J. History of the Vlasov Army / trans. with him. - Paris: YMCA – PRESS, 1990 .-- S. 106.

          [i] ... In the German scientific literature there is different information about the total number of Soviet prisoners of war. J. Hoffman calls the figure 5.24 million, of which 3,8 million were captured in the first months of the war. / I]

          the lower number of those killed in captivity - 2 people,
          upper - 3 300 000 people.

          Streit Ch. Keine Kameraden: Die Wehrmacht und die sowjetische Kriegsge fangenen 1941-1945. - Bonn: Dietz, 1991 .-- S. 244-246.

          The numbers are certainly controversial.
          Russian statistics are much different from the above Western researchers. The Commission of the Ministry of Defense, chaired by M.A. Gareeva, established in 1988, it was determined that during the years of World War II 4 military personnel were missing and captured, of which 559 returned from captivity after the war, 000 were recruited a second time from those who were in the liberated territory, 1 died in captivity according to the enemy; the fate of 836 military personnel is unknown.

          Russia and the USSR in the wars of the twentieth century: A statistical study. M.: OLMA-PRESS, 2001 .-- S. 248,463.
    2. Rider
      Rider 5 July 2013 14: 00
      +2
      Quote: Zubr
      BECAUSE THEY SIGNED THE VIENNA CONVENTION ON POWERS. And THERE OURS DIDN'T DO IT ...


      the next time, before posting this nonsense, take the trouble to READ the very convention that you cited here as an argument.

      there it is written in black and white - the countries SIGNING this convention should relate to the prisoners of war from the countries NOT SIGNING the convention, as humanely as if they SIGNED this convention.

      and Germany SIGNED this convention.
  • seller trucks
    seller trucks 5 July 2013 11: 56
    +4
    I just remembered on occasion, they say:

    The Russian paratrooper captured in both blue and black berets is not considered a prisoner of war - he is shot on the spot (from the US Armed Forces charter).

    Margelov’s people should not be taken prisoner, but shot on the spot, since the paratrooper is a saboteur in captivity (from the US Armed Forces charter).
  • Stiletto
    Stiletto 5 July 2013 12: 02
    0
    With such a book in his pocket, an American prisoner of war would have bent much faster - from frustration. Moreover, if the goof himself, sincerely believed that he was written there.
  • MahsusNazar
    MahsusNazar 5 July 2013 12: 18
    +3
    Friends, it doesn’t matter that we did not sign this convention, we complied with it, but the Germans came to us not to be taken prisoner, but to destroy. That's why the attitude towards us was not like amers.
  • Tartary
    Tartary 5 July 2013 12: 20
    +2
    The USSR did not sign the Geneva Convention, therefore (and not only, but maybe not so much) during the Second World War, our prisoners of war had no rights ...

    Why didn’t the USSR sign the Geneva Convention? Could its signing affect the content of our grandfathers and fathers in prisoner of war camps, unknown ...

    I think that nothing would have changed - the Russians had a task to destroy more thoroughly even than the Jews ...

    Do not believe - check.
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 5 July 2013 13: 28
      0
      Quote: Tartary
      The USSR did not sign the Geneva Convention, therefore (and not only, but maybe not so much) during the Second World War, our prisoners of war had no rights ...

      Why didn’t the USSR sign the Geneva Convention?


      Litvinov signed in 1931.
  • MahsusNazar
    MahsusNazar 5 July 2013 12: 21
    +1
    Yes, and besides, the Germans did sign this convention, so that nothing prevented them from observing it.
  • Djozz
    Djozz 5 July 2013 13: 00
    +1
    I served in the air defense in the 70s. We had an officer in our battalion who fought in Vietnam with the air defense-75 complex. So, he never met the cowardly Americans who were captured, even the downed Jewish pilots in Egypt behaved more dignified than these "Rambo". Immediately snot and a plea for mercy a pack of dollars, such as pay off. , not soldiers. My father finished the war in the regimental intelligence service in Denmark. Met with the Americans, weak to get up and go on the attack. The SS fought more courageously, they practically did not surrender, but we did not take them "only the SS Germans"
  • Djozz
    Djozz 5 July 2013 13: 10
    -4
    And actually, colleagues, today is Friday 13h. in the afternoon I brewed crayfish, bought a beer and lie in the Pool. at home. In all the rest today, vanity is vanity.
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 5 July 2013 13: 30
      +1
      Quote: Djozz
      And actually, colleagues


      Sybarite!
      makes scary eyes

      do not tempt! some have a working day in full swing !!!
  • Djozz
    Djozz 5 July 2013 13: 39
    +1
    Ah, I drink beer and watch the American film "12 Angry Men", I recommend it. And I will answer the guns, I will not give myself up alive!
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 5 July 2013 20: 58
      0
      Quote: Djozz
      Ah, I drink beer and watch the American film "12 Angry Men", I recommend it. And I will answer the guns, I will not give myself up alive!

      good drinks
  • Zubr
    Zubr 5 July 2013 13: 52
    +1
    Quote: Karlsonn
    Quote: Zubr
    SO YES VERY STRONG BECAUSE THEY SIGNED THE VIENNA CONVENTION ON POWERS. And THERE OURS WERE NOT DONE ......


    Signed-not signed, it's all like a hare stop signal!
    And the destruction of almost 3 000 000 prisoners of war in the first year of the war is a war crime.


    YES IT IS A VERY BIG TRAGEDY, AND THERE IS A SILENCE TO MINUS. READ THAT OUR AUTHORITIES ANSWERED AND SPECIFICALLY TOV. Stalin, when he received a request from our Reich Chancellery about our prisoners of war, and why were they destroyed? AND DO NOT CONFUSE PERSONAL DISEASES TO FACTS, WITH PATRIOTISM, AND MAKE CONCLUSIONS .. hi
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 5 July 2013 14: 30
    +3
    http://www.jewniverse.ru/RED/Shneyer/
    Guys highly recommend. For this book, its author, Dr. and / n Aron Schneier, was awarded the President of the Russian Federation.
    Of course, there is much to the Jews’s interest there, Schneer still works at the Yad-Vashem Institute, but I recommend reading about all the prisoners. He’ll brush his teeth.
    1. Timeout
      Timeout 5 July 2013 15: 12
      +1
      Who is about whom, and the Jew is about the Jews ... Aron, I really respect some of Svedlov's works on which the author mainly pushes, but what was published after 1992 is a clear order, only the names alone speak of what “The exploits of Jewish soldiers in battles of 1942 "," Essays on Jews - Heroes of the Soviet Union "," Essays on Jewish soldiers - full holders of the Order of Glory "," Jews - generals of the Armed Forces of the USSR "," Feats of Jewish soldiers in the battles of 1941 "," Feats of soldiers - Jews in the battles of 1942 ”,“ Jews in the Second World War (1939-1945) ”. Moreover, a person who was an active member of the Holocaust Foundation. Back in 1995, Nevzorov asked him the question "Fedor Davydovich, when did you realize that you were a Jew?" And that's all, the patient was blown away ... Well, the rest of the extracts, allegedly declassified documents of the GPU-NKVD-KGB-FSK-FSB, this is complete nonsense. Foreign citizens still do not have access to such documents. Not to mention journalists and other writers. The Germans treated Soviet soldiers in the same way, with hatred! 99% of the fighters, regardless of nationality, so spoiled the blood of Deutsche Zoldaten that they tried to humiliate or destroy anyone who was born on the territory of the USSR.
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 5 July 2013 17: 24
        +4
        First, I immediately suggested skipping all the chapters that concern the Jews. But Schneier's book is called "Captivity" and I highly recommend reading it in order to finally understand that in relation to Soviet prisoners and the Wehrmacht was not inferior to the SS in atrocity.
        And secondly, why such a Jew as Fedor Davidovich Sverdlov
        At the beginning of World War II he was sent to the front as a battery commander with the rank of senior lieutenant. Subsequently, he became commander of a rifle company, a rifle battalion. In the summer of 1942, he was appointed an officer in the operational department of the headquarters of the 16 Army. Awards. Order of the Red Banner,
        Order of the Patriotic War of the first degree-twice, Order of the Patriotic War of the second degree, Order of the Red Star-twice, Order "For Service to the Homeland in the Armed Forces of the USSR" of the third degree. Medals.
        After the end of the war, he graduated with honors from the Frunze Military Academy. In 1952 he defended his thesis of the candidate of military sciences and began work at the academy, where he worked until 1984. In 1979 he defended his thesis of Doctor of Historical Sciences. Since 1980 - Professor of the Department of Operational Art.
        In 1953 he became a colonel.
        Since 1992 - Member of the Board of the Holocaust Center.
        can't write about their kind? Or not? Maybe only about the "Tashkent front" is it possible?
        1. Timeout
          Timeout 6 July 2013 02: 59
          0
          Read the notes, for example PN Paliy, Chief of Staff of the 2nd Infantry Division of the ROA, or these materials "Shatov MV Bibliography of the liberation movement of the peoples of Russia during the Second World War (1941 - 1945). New York, 1961. Vol. 1; Same. Materials and documents of the liberation movement of the peoples of Russia during the Second World War (1941 - 1945). New York, 1966. Vol. 2; Dugas I.A., Cheron F.Ya. Pp. 412 - 433. ", as well as Vaschenko's books, strange materials for a book from traitors who, for the sake of survival, began to kill their own. I am not opposed to a Jew writing about Jews, but for some reason I realized that he was a Jew already in his declining years, and even with the stormy participation of American "friends", whom I diligently considered the main enemy of practically the entire conscious service of the USSR. More than strange for a "frunzenka" teacher ... So I prefer the notes of Vladimirov, Chumakov or Satirov to Schneier's book.
    2. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 5 July 2013 20: 34
      0
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Guys highly recommend.


      Dragged, read. Thanks.

      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Of course, there’s a lot of things that concern Jews


      Why, I wonder.
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 5 July 2013 21: 06
        0
        Quote: Karlsonn
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Guys highly recommend.

        Dragged, read. Thanks.

        you pay attention to the orders of the OKH and in general to the attitude of the Wehrmacht towards Soviet prisoners of war. Also me "knights" angry .
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 6 July 2013 01: 49
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          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          you pay attention to the orders of the OKH and in general to the attitude of the Wehrmacht towards Soviet prisoners of war. To me, too, "knights


          I know.
    3. ImPerts
      ImPerts 6 July 2013 00: 15
      0
      I looked it over quickly. Alarming references to "historians", pseudo-historians.
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 6 July 2013 01: 50
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        Quote: ImPerts
        I looked it over quickly. Alarming references to "historians", pseudo-historians.


        As a Soviet man, I recommend that you read carefully.
        1. ImPerts
          ImPerts 6 July 2013 21: 00
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          I read two chapters carefully. And then he got into the sources. And as a Soviet person, I understand, I will read, but given the super-emotional attitude of these "historians" to the past of the country.
  • svoboda1970
    svoboda1970 5 July 2013 15: 09
    0
    Looks like a hammer instruction ...
  • SPETSNAZ
    SPETSNAZ 5 July 2013 17: 14
    +1
    If I act in captivity according to this instruction, they will either beat me badly or kill me.
  • i12345
    i12345 5 July 2013 22: 28
    0
    I wonder if the Americans are now complying with the Geneva Convention with respect to captive dushmans, or to other prisoners ?!
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 6 July 2013 12: 49
      0
      And what, in Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib, is it not visible whether they observe or not?
  • ImPerts
    ImPerts 6 July 2013 00: 20
    0
    A necessary product of the activity of the personnel department. It was necessary to show the work - they showed it. Require compliance with some rules, as in the "monkey" the right to download. Either from the "inmates" you will get n ... lei, or from the keepers of order.
    And there are many examples of the behavior of Americans in captivity and they do not smell of heroism.
    1. Beck
      Beck 6 July 2013 08: 22
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      Quote: ImPerts
      And there are many examples of the behavior of Americans in captivity and they do not smell of heroism.


      And such instructions of Western countries do not require the manifestation of heroism in captivity from soldiers. They are aimed at making a prisoner of war a soldier. saved his life and returned home after the war. Such instructions do not require soldiers to answer all questions - no. A soldier can name his rank, specialty, military unit number, and the names of commanders when the unit arrived at the front where it was heading. Because these data are not strictly confidential. And if the authorities made a mistake by allowing the soldier to be captured, then why should the soldier be responsible for poor planning and inadequate actions of commanders and commanders.
      1. ImPerts
        ImPerts 6 July 2013 20: 55
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        I wanted to say something else.
        Quote: Beck
        A soldier can name his rank, specialty, military unit number, and the names of commanders when the unit arrived at the front where it was heading.

        This is please, as much as you like. At least its part and name, at least a cousin. For intelligence, this is not important. If counterintelligence is accepted, then he will check everything thoroughly and tell everything himself. And no one will ask, let alone listen about rights.
        Download rights, poking this book and demanding compliance with the printed, will come out sideways and will not give the expected effect. This is more for the feeling that you have not been forgotten and remembered about you. Therefore, he wrote that this is for show in the report that they did not forget, advised.
  • Grif
    Grif 6 July 2013 06: 37
    0
    I imagined a, amazing this little book, in our captivity. It’s funny.
  • ramsi
    ramsi 6 July 2013 09: 33
    0
    the difference in the attitude of the Germans towards our prisoners and the Anglo-Saxons stemmed mainly from the banal bitterness that we were so stubbornly stubborn. Convention is a matter ... valuable. I don’t think that Hitler had any concern with her at all, but he believed in racial theory and this could greatly influence the attitude towards the Anglo-Saxons
    1. ImPerts
      ImPerts 6 July 2013 21: 03
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      Quote: from Carlson
      Declaration: The undersigned People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics hereby announces that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is joining the convention on improving the fate of prisoners of war, wounded and sick in active armies, concluded in Geneva on 27 July 1929. In witness whereof the People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, duly authorized for this purpose, has signed this declaration of accession. ntralnogo executive committee of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics of May 12 1930, the present connection is final and does not require further ratification. Installed in Moscow on August 25 1931. (signature) Litvinov


      They signed it. But for Hitler, the British stood in a racial hierarchy above the Russians.