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On the basis of the Kurganets-25 platform, a promising “digital” self-propelled gun can be created.

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On the basis of the Kurganets-25 platform, a promising “digital” self-propelled gun can be created.

The average unified tracked platform "Kurganets-25" can become a base for a whole family of military equipment. It is possible that in the near future we will be able to see not only BMP, but also other combat and auxiliary vehicles, including self-propelled guns.


On the basis of the first-generation domestic combat vehicle BMP-1, various options for its application were also developed at one time. The base of the world's first machine of this class was supposed to be used as the basis for light tank, 122-mm self-propelled howitzers, other equally interesting cars.

However, in the end, under the light tanks 70-ies in Kurgan and Volgograd developed a new chassis, and the ACS "Gvozdika" was made on the basis of the Kharkov conveyor MT-LBu. By the way, on the same machine, and not the BMP-1, various equipment began to be mounted, only about fifty options, not counting those that were created in the countries of the former Warsaw Pact. The fact was that MT-LBu turned out to be cheaper in production.

Of course, various variants were created based on the BMP-1 and BMP-2, in particular, the MP-31 control vehicle, the BMP-1KSH command and control vehicle, the BRM-1K combat reconnaissance vehicle, several modifications of mobile reconnaissance points, repair and evacuation vehicles machines, engineering reconnaissance machine "Beetle". But in terms of mass character and abundance of modifications, this technique is, of course, inferior to the one that was based on MT-LB and MT-LBu.

True, in the army of the former Czechoslovakia, where BMP-1 and BMP-2 were produced (including for the Soviet army) under license, they were able to create a real family based on the machines developed in the USSR. What it just was not: self-propelled mortar, armored personnel carriers, self-propelled self-propelled guns, ambulances, reconnaissance radar and much more.

Another record holder in the number of modifications made on the basis of licensed BMP-2 can be considered India, here also this chassis was used to the maximum.

On the basis of the third generation of domestic BMPs, it was planned to create many more different machines. But, unfortunately, most of them remained in the form of prototypes.




It can be assumed that a happier fate will be in the "Kurgants-25", which, as they said earlier, will be largely unified with the wheeled armored personnel carrier "Boomerang" (engine, modules of additional armor), and with weapons, fire control systems - and with heavy BMP based on the platform "Armata".

Last year, during one of the shows, you could see various versions of machines based on the "Kurgants-25". Among them was "flashed" a kind of combat vehicle with heavy artillery weapons. Some experts have made the assumption that this is nothing more than a continuation of the anti-tank self-propelled gun 2С25 "Sprut", in a new capacity and on a new chassis. And since the placement of weapons was a fire station, they even suggested that this car was a kind of mini-Armata.

According to other data, the presented artillery version of "Kurgants-25" is a continuation of the line of ACS "Vienna" - "Khost", and maybe even 2С3 "Acacia", the benefit of this 152-mm self-propelled gun weighs slightly more than 25-ton "Kurgantsa" .

On a promising car must be applied the latest management system guidance and fire. It will be integrated into the automated command and control system. Thanks to this, advancing or defending units will always be supported by fire. All the possibilities to create such a "digital" ACS are in Russia.
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  1. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 3 July 2013 11: 35 New
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    There is nothing better than anticipation.
    New platforms will be an unpleasant surprise to the foreign military-industrial complex.
    1. experienced
      experienced 3 July 2013 11: 42 New
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      Quote: Dmitry 2246
      New platforms will be an unpleasant surprise to the foreign military-industrial complex.

      Something recently for our military-industrial complex too many "surprises" comes out ... Is it time to remember the old proverbs
      “Chicks, they think in the fall,” “Don't say a gop until you jump over”?
    2. lelikas
      lelikas 3 July 2013 11: 46 New
      +4
      Quote: Dmitry 2246
      There is nothing better than anticipation.

      The main thing is a good finish drinks

      In the meantime, unfortunately, only transfusion :(
      It may be wrong in some ways - but such a huge amount of armament nomenclature cannot be pulled right away, IMHO you just have to make one type of tank, one baiter and one self-propelled gun, after saturating them with troops - you can begin to produce modifications.
    3. evgenii67
      evgenii67 3 July 2013 12: 07 New
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      Hello everyone!
      Quote: Dmitry 2246
      There is nothing better than anticipation.

      and there is nothing worse than waiting and catching up.
      Quote: Dmitry 2246
      New platforms will be an unpleasant surprise to the foreign military-industrial complex.
      How? Or do you think that cars on this platform, as from a cornucopia, will be produced and sold with the same success all over the world, capturing more and more new markets, leaving no chance for foreign analogues? The main thing is that we should not become an unpleasant surprise for our defense industry and the country as a whole.
      1. Dmitry 2246
        Dmitry 2246 3 July 2013 17: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: evgenii67
        Or do you think that cars on this platform, as from a cornucopia, will be produced and sold with the same success all over the world, capturing more and more new markets, leaving no chance for foreign analogues?

        Yes, I think so. I have the right to do so.
        Operated BTR-60PB, BTR-70, BTR-80 and modifications, BMP-1, BMP-2, T-72. On the armor was taken from the extreme battle.
        I love armor with all my heart, sometimes I dream about how I control the “armor” without legs, and “get nervous” when I can’t overcome obstacles.
        I firmly know that this technique is reliable and reliable in battle and on vacation. Safety margin is.
        But slobbery-snotty cries do not even indignant, in a fight I would have slapped like an annoying mosquito and forgotten.
  2. Armata
    Armata 3 July 2013 11: 39 New
    +5
    Where is the Kurganets? Is he already there?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 3 July 2013 11: 45 New
      +5
      We have not seen, we do not know, but we are already dreaming of a whole family. If only they showed for a start the basic version.
      1. Armata
        Armata 3 July 2013 11: 47 New
        +5
        Quote: Wedmak
        If only they showed for a start the basic version.
        but how to show that which is not? request Although there are probably judging by the noodles on our long-suffering ears.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 3 July 2013 12: 16 New
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          Welcome.
          It seems that the photograph of the product in metal has already slipped
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 3 July 2013 12: 20 New
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            This is just a case, but I would like this product to leave the factory gate on its own wheels, driven by its engine. And it is desirable, at least with some kind of body kit in the form of weapons and defense systems.
            And the case ... sorry, any welder will do this in a week in the garage.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 3 July 2013 12: 31 New
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              At least they do it in metal.
      2. experienced
        experienced 3 July 2013 11: 48 New
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        Quote: Wedmak
        We have not seen, we do not know, but we are already dreaming of a whole family. If only they showed for a start the basic version.

        In Russia, new slogans are in use:
        for officials: "We are not the 37th year" (and bureaucrats are easy and calm)
        for the military-industrial complex: "We are working on the defense, not on the uncle" (and for secrecy, you can "cut" and do nothing)
        1. Armata
          Armata 3 July 2013 11: 57 New
          +6
          Quote: seasoned
          for the military-industrial complex: "We are working on the defense, not on the uncle" (and for secrecy, you can "cut" and do nothing)
          Hi dear. I’m not doing anything today. Give a thread to cut (preferably in a tree and more)
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 3 July 2013 13: 38 New
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      Quote: Mechanic
      Where is the Kurganets? Is he already there?

      They promise to show in the fall, and we'll see.

      "Now the new module is mounted on the promising infantry fighting vehicle Kurganets-25, which will replace all current infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers in the future. It will be shown for the first time in September 2013 at the IX International Exhibition of Arms, Military Equipment and Ammunition Russia Arms Expo in Nizhny Tagil. In addition to the Kurganets, the remote module can also be installed on the promising self-propelled howitzer Coalition and the Boomerang armored personnel carriers, the military-industrial complex noted.
      http://www.dni.ru/society/2013/7/3/255438.html
  3. Tan4ik
    Tan4ik 3 July 2013 11: 41 New
    +2
    New platforms for domestic production are an immediate step forward. I am very proud of our achievements. But I'm not surprised about GLONASS ... (sorry not off topic)
    1. slavik_gross
      slavik_gross 3 July 2013 13: 52 New
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      definitely for GLONASS offensively .....
  4. sys-1985
    sys-1985 3 July 2013 11: 46 New
    +1
    All three platforms will be unified as much as possible (aiming systems, communication systems, combat modules), this is a great benefit ..
  5. Lopatov
    Lopatov 3 July 2013 12: 20 New
    +2
    Why toil nonsense? There is a wonderful base BMP-3. As a matter of fact, it is not very BMP due to the layout features, but it is quite suitable for the role of the basis for self-propelled guns and other features. The same "Chrysanthemum-S" is already in the army.

    Unification is good, but without fanaticism.
  6. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 3 July 2013 13: 29 New
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    Well, if there are opportunities, then you need to create .... By the very idea and execution it is immediately clear that this is a modern technique with a look into the future ....
  7. shamil
    shamil 3 July 2013 13: 53 New
    +1
    Well, by 2020, we’ll be the world’s leaders in armament and the most powerful army. We must protect the wealth of Siberia, and then there are only holes and some foreign neighbors who want to tidy it all up
  8. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross 3 July 2013 13: 58 New
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    Yes, in words, I would like to put it all on, so that everything would take off, go and work for a short time without pilgrims, but as always (I wanted the best, but it turned out as always)!
  9. sergey158-29
    sergey158-29 3 July 2013 21: 59 New
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    And who will comment on this sketch? I understand this is a self-propelled gun with an uninhabited tower? Who has what versions?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 3 July 2013 22: 09 New
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      Drawing is another fruit of creativity of a person who is not related to the development of weapons and military equipment
  10. VadimSt
    VadimSt 3 July 2013 22: 52 New
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    The shaman, however! The chicken in the nest, the testicle in ....., and already fry the fried eggs. So here - even the basic appearance, no one has ever seen in the eye, but already conversations and comments about possible modifications, prospects and so on.