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A hundred years ago began the fratricidal Second Balkan War

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A hundred years ago began the fratricidal Second Balkan War

A hundred years ago, the Second Balkan War broke out. It was one of the most fleeting wars in the Balkan Peninsula - 29 June - 29 July 1913 29 June 1913 at 3 in the morning the Bulgarian troops attacked the Serbs without a declaration of war and the Greeks in the evening. Thus began the Second Balkan War between Bulgaria on the one hand, and Serbia Montenegro and Greece on the other. Turkey and Romania also spoke against Bulgaria. This war was beneficial to the Western powers - the positions of the Russian Empire in the Balkans were undermined, France, Germany and Austria-Hungary strengthened their influence on the peninsula. The Balkan alliance collapsed, dispelling Petersburg’s hopes on the Pan-Slavic alliance, which could withstand the expansion of Turkey and the Austro-German bloc. Balkan states from cooperation have moved to fight for a place in the sun. Bulgaria began to lean toward an alliance with the Austro-Hungarian and German empires, hoping for a rematch.


Background of war

- Great-power ambitions of Balkan politicians. Degradation of the Ottoman Empire allowed the Balkan peoples, with the help of the Russian power, to restore independence. But the politicians of these countries did not want to stop at this. The Bulgarian government wanted to maximally expand the borders of the Bulgarian state, creating Great Bulgaria - the state, which was to occupy the entire eastern part of the Balkan Peninsula, to get Macedonia and Thrace. Bulgarians considered themselves the main victors in the First Balkan War, their army delivered the most serious blows to the Turks. The results of the war offended Bulgaria, she wanted more. The most resolute dreamed of "Great Bulgaria", which, as during the times of the greatest power of the Bulgarian kingdom, will stretch from the Black and Aegean to the Adriatic and Ionian seas. Serbia wanted to add Western Macedonia and Albania to its country, to gain entry into the Adriatic and Aegean seas. The Greeks planned to expand the borders of their country as much as possible, claiming Thrace and Southern Macedonia, like the Bulgarians. The idea of ​​restoring the Byzantine Empire with its capital in Constantinople was conceived. Romania had territorial claims against Bulgaria, demanding Southern Dobruja.

- The London Peace Treaty 30 of May 1913 of the Year, which drew a line under the First Balkan War, did not satisfy the Balkan states. The Ottoman Empire lost all European possessions, except for Constantinople and a small part of Eastern Thrace, and wanted to return at least part of the territory. With the support of the great powers, Albania was created, although Greece, Montenegro and Serbia claimed its territory. Thrace and Macedonia were not divided, new borders were not created. The Treaty of London created a cause for war.

- The First Balkan War weakened the positions of Austria-Hungary and Germany in the Balkans. The presence of the Balkan Union and the strengthening of Serbia and Montenegro forced Vienna to keep more troops in the south, which weakened the army in Galicia - against Russia. Therefore, the efforts of Vienna and Berlin were focused on separating Bulgaria from Serbia and Russia, to embroil Serbs and Bulgarians. Austro-German politicians were going to break the Balkan alliance, to create a threat from Serbia for the rear from Bulgaria. The Bulgarian state was to join the group of Central Powers. German and Austrian diplomats suggested to the Serbs that since they did not get the desired access to the Adriatic in a war, they must compensate for themselves at the expense of Macedonia and Salonika by getting access to the Aegean Sea. This required to unleash a war with Bulgaria and Greece. On the other hand, the Bulgarians were convinced of the need to seize Macedonia. Vienna promised Sophia support in this matter.

- Politics of England and various behind-the-scenes structures. The "world behind the scenes" has been preparing the ground for the outbreak of a major war in Europe for several years. The Balkans were supposed to give rise to a world war in which it was necessary to involve Russia, and this was inevitable due to historical ties of the Russian state with the Balkan peoples. The clear position of England, and France supported it, could stop the war in the Balkans. The ambiguity of England's position provoked offensive actions of the Austro-German bloc. England will take the same position before the outbreak of the First World War, giving hope to the German government for London's neutrality.

Prewar political situation

At the beginning of 1913, the Serbian press, which belonged to the Liberal Party and the nationalist secret organization Black Hand, which had connections with European Freemasonry, launched a campaign against the Serb-Bulgarian alliance. The government of Pashich was accused of Bulgaria’s excessive concession on the territorial issue. The same hysteria was raised in Bulgaria. Both sides insisted on the historical right to Macedonia. These sentiments were strongly fueled by Austria-Hungary and Germany.

26 May 1913, the Serbian government has demanded Sofia to renegotiate the terms of the 1912 agreement of the year. 28 May, the head of the Serbian government Pasic, speaking in the assembly (parliament), said that Serbia and Greece should have a common border. Therefore, the contract with the Bulgarians should be changed in favor of Serbia. Belgrade was supported by the Greeks. Greece did not want the transition of Macedonia to the power of Bulgaria. In addition, the transformation of Thessaloniki into the main shopping center in the south of Serbia promised considerable benefits to Greece. 1 June 1913 Serbia and Greece signed a treaty of alliance and a military convention against Bulgaria. The agreement provided for the division of Macedonia between Serbia and Greece, the establishment of a common border between the states. A secret protocol was signed on dividing Albania into spheres of influence of Serbia and Greece. Sofia accepted this agreement as an anti-Bulgarian provocation.

This agreement made war inevitable. The Serbian press, politicians, court circles and the military rejected any compromises with Bulgaria and demanded that the army achieve the solution of “national tasks”. Only the Serbian socialists were against the war, but their voice was in fact not heard in the choir of the nationalists. Even the king himself began to call for the maximum expansion of the borders of the Serbian state. At the end of May, the successor of the Serbian throne, Alexander Karageorgievich, visited the Serbian forces located in Macedonia. Speaking to the military with speeches, he spoke of the need to immediately resolve a territorial dispute with Bulgaria. In the early summer of 1913, the “Serbization” of Western Macedonia began. The press accused the government of Pašić, who stood in more moderate positions and was oriented toward Russia, of national treachery. The Serbian government was firmly linked in foreign policy with Russia and France, and was forced to reckon with their opinion.

Russia's position

Russia tried to save the Balkan Union. Its creation was a great diplomatic success of the Russian Empire: this alliance could be directed against both Turkey and Austria-Hungary. Relying on it, Russia could solve the issue of the Black Sea straits in its favor. Russian diplomacy advised Sofia to make concessions. Petersburg offered to immediately convene a conference of the heads of governments of the Balkan Union, under the arbitration of Russia. The conference was to find a peaceful way out of this situation. However, there were too many people willing to destroy the Balkan alliance, the great-power ambitions of the Balkan states were fueled by both the Austro-Hungarian bloc and France and England.

Russian Emperor Nicholas II addressed the heads of Serbia and Bulgaria with a personal message, where he warned that when the fratricidal war began, Petersburg would retain its freedom of action. Sofia and Belgrade complained about each other. Serbian monarch Peter replied that Belgrade’s demands could not be limited to the Serb-Bulgarian agreement of the 1912 of the year. Bulgarian king Ferdinand accused the Serbs of planning to deprive Sophia of the fruits of her victory.

The Russian Foreign Ministry demanded that Belgrade immediately agree to convene a conference. The same proposal was made to Sophia. But Austria-Hungary assured the Bulgarian government that it would support Sofia’s claims to Macedonia. The Bulgarians rejected the proposal of St. Petersburg to convene the conference and declared the need to comply with the conditions of the Serbian-Bulgarian agreement 1912. Sofia demanded the passage of its troops in areas of southwestern and southern Macedonia. They were occupied by the Serbian and Greek forces. Belgrade refused. The Bulgarian government urgently recalled its ambassador from Serbia.

The Bulgarian king, Ferdinand of Saxe, Coburg-Gothic, who had previously balanced in the game with the pro-Russian and pro-German parties, made the final choice. Bulgaria decided to strike first. 25 June, the Bulgarian envoy in St. Petersburg told the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Sazonov, that Bulgaria could not wait any longer and was forced to interrupt further negotiations with Russia and Serbia. The Russian minister said that Bulgaria thereby "makes a treacherous step in relation to the Slavic cause" and "makes a decision tantamount to declaring a fratricidal war." Thus, the “Slav brothers” set up Russia, and not for the last time.

War

29 June, the commander of the Bulgarian army, General Mikhail Savov, gave the troops an order for an offensive. By this time Bulgaria had 5 armies - only about 500 thousand people. The Bulgarian command planned to attack in the southern direction, cut the link between Serbia and Greece, capture Skopje and the whole of Macedonia. Then Sofia believed that negotiations would begin, and Serbia would be forced to agree to peace on the terms of Bulgaria. The Serbian army - three armies and two separate units (about 200 thousand people in total), was located along the whole border with Bulgaria. Serbia had no special plans on the eve of the war.

On the night of 30 June 1913, the Bulgarian units without declaration of war attacked the Serbian troops, which were stationed in Macedonia. The 4-I Bulgarian army launched an attack on the Macedonian direction, the 2-I army - in the direction of Thessaloniki. The Bulgarians defeated the Serbian border troops, but soon they were stopped by the 1-I Serbian army led by Alexander Karageorgievich. 2-I Bulgarian army defeated the advanced parts of the Greeks and went to the coast of the Aegean Sea. 30 June Greece, Serbia and Montenegro declared war on Bulgaria. The king of Greece, Constantine I, led the army (about 150 thousand) and ordered an offensive. At this time, the Serbian troops stopped the 1 th and 5 th Bulgarian armies on Pirot.

The Bulgarian attack had already choked by 2 July, Sofia clearly overestimated its strength and underestimated the fighting spirit and power of the opponents. Sophia even initially was inclined to think about withdrawing troops and a statement about the border conflict. However, there was no going back. Serbia, Greece and Montenegro received a long-awaited opportunity to defeat a competitor. The Bulgarian troops were in a difficult situation and began to retreat to the old border. Bulgaria had to pull the vast majority of its forces to the border with Greece and Serbia. By July 4, the Greek army defeated the Bulgarians in the battle of Kilkis. The remnants of the Bulgarian troops retreated to the border. 7 July Greek troops entered Strumitsa. On July 10, the Bulgarians retreated to the eastern bank of the Struma. 11 July, the Greeks came into contact with the Serbian troops.

In Romania, closely followed the unfolding events. Romanian politicians were also infected with the idea of ​​“Great Romania” (they still get sick, the healing experience of the Second World War, unfortunately, has already been forgotten). Bucharest had territorial claims to all its neighbors - Bulgaria, Austria-Hungary and Russia. But due to its military weakness, Romania could count on an increase in its territory only in the event of a catastrophic weakening of its neighbors. More or less an equivalent opponent was only Bulgaria. But here, too, it was necessary to act cautiously so as not to cause serious complications with Russia, and not to run into defeat.

Romanians prudently did not get involved in the First Balkan War. Like, let the Serbs with the Bulgarians fight with the Turks, and we will see whose it will take. At the same time, Bucharest prepared the troops, and if the Ottomans succeeded, it was ready to strike across Bulgaria. Romanians demanded the transfer of South Dobrudja. When Porto was defeated, the Romanian delegation at the London Conference attempted to snatch its share, but did not. After making sure that Bulgaria was defeated by Greece and Serbia, 14 in July the Romanian troops (Romania had about 450 thousand people) crossed the Romanian-Bulgarian border in the Dobrudja region and moved to Varna. There was practically no resistance from the Bulgarians. Almost all Bulgarian troops were concentrated against the Serbian and Greek armies. Romanian cavalry calmly approached Sofia.

Almost simultaneously with the Romanians, Turkey attacked Bulgaria. Their advanced units crossed the Maritsa River. The initiator of the outbreak of hostilities was Enver Pasha, the leader of the Young Turks. Commander of the operation was appointed Izet Pasha. The Young Turks planned to take advantage of the Second Balkan War to improve their positions in the European part of Turkey. The Ottomans exhibited over 200 thousand people. For several days, Turkish troops cleared the Bulgarians of Eastern Thrace. 23 July occupied Edirne (Adrianople). Russia offered Britain and France to hold a collective naval demonstration against Turkey, expressing concern that after the capture of Adrianople, the Turks will become impudent. But Britain and France agreed to conduct such an operation, only with the participation of Germany, Austria-Hungary and Italy, that is, in fact refused. The repeated proposal to hold a naval demonstration was only categorically rejected by Entente forces.

The Bulgarian army fought back fiercely. The Bulgarians were able to stop the Serb offensive against Sofia and stabilize the situation on the Greek front. But with the entry of Romania and Turkey, the Bulgarians were doomed. 29 July Sofia, realizing the hopelessness of the situation and facing the threat of a military catastrophe, went to peace talks.

Results

With the mediation of Russia 31 July 1913, Bucharest signed a truce. 10 August 1913 was signed the Bucharest peace treaty. Bulgaria lost most of the territories occupied during the First Balkan War, and also transferred Southern Dobrudja to Romania - about 7 thousand square kilometers. Macedonia is divided between Serbia and Greece. Bulgaria was able to maintain access to the Aegean Sea. September 29 The peace treaty between Bulgaria and Turkey was signed in Constantinople in 1913. Bulgaria transferred to Turkey part of Eastern Thrace with the city of Edirne.

Serbia was celebrated - the territory of the state increased from 48,3 to 87,7 thousand square kilometers, and the population - from 2,9 to 4,4 million. The main rival of Serbia on the Balkan Peninsula among the Slavic states - Bulgaria was defeated and pushed into the background. However, the joy was short-lived. The destruction of the Balkan alliance, in strategic terms, will leave Serbia sideways, sharply worsening the capabilities of the Slavs in the fight against the Austro-German forces in the First World War.

Russia suffered a serious diplomatic defeat. The Slavic brothers, instead of strengthening the union and cooperation, staged a fratricidal carnage to the joy of Russia's geopolitical opponents. Soon a new provocation will follow from the Balkans, which will force the Russian Empire to enter the First World War, which will end in geopolitical catastrophe for it.

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  1. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign 3 July 2013 08: 36 New
    +7
    "When there is no agreement in friends, their business will not go well ..."
    Most of those present on the resource probably read Pikul's "The Honor". Even if not from the point of view of historical fact, then from the point of view of emotions and general mood, the situation is shown quite colorfully and fully ... Bulgarians are still "peppers": starting with the Balkan wars and ending with world ones, and even later events (the country's accession to NATO ), the development of the situation in the Balkans (generally in southeastern Europe) largely depended on the position of this country. The desire to have more at the beginning has always led to embarrassment in the ending. Let's see how the history of this state will develop further (in relation to the current state of affairs). Thanks to the author for the article.
    1. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 3 July 2013 11: 35 New
      +5
      You rightly noticed that the "brothers" appetites always did not correspond to their real situation. As well as all their chatter about brotherhood and alliance, for the entire 20th century, in all conflicts, Bulgaria found itself in the camp of Russia's enemies.
      1. Dovmont
        Dovmont 3 July 2013 13: 00 New
        +2
        And in the 1st century, she also worked there.
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    3. pytar
      pytar 30 November 2016 22: 31 New
      +2
      The answer to all questions gives a few cards. The first one is light green, the so-called Bulgarian land is shown - the territory of the Bolkan Peninsula where the Bulgarians accounted for more than 50% of the population according to the results of the REFERENDUM from 1870 held by Sultan Abdul Hamid, with the goal of establishing the BULGARIAN ORTHODOX Bishop! Based on the self-determination of the Christian population, the Sultan issued Ferman friendly with the map areas following the transfer to the Bulgarian Orthodox Church! The borders of Bulgaria are marked with a red line according to the peace treaty between Russia and the Ottoman Empire, with which the Russian-Turkish War of 1878 ended! Only 4 months after the signing of the San Stefan Treaty under Western pressure, Russia was forced to return 3 / 4 from those lands along with their Bulgarian population under Ottoman slavery! The map of modern Bulgaria is shown with dark green color. The second map shows when the land’s children were occupied by the neighbors of Bulgaria as a result of which wars were until 1945. All military operations with one turn-off were velis, in the territory shown with light green color / Bulgarian land /. Judge for yourself who the aggressor is and who waged wars for their unification! Who helped Russia and how fair your reproaches to the Bulgarians! Card No.1 Card No.2
  2. valokordin
    valokordin 3 July 2013 09: 07 New
    +2
    Thank you for the article, it’s a pity that Russia, as always, gets it and it’s a pity that it was not able to prevent a fratricidal war.
    1. Gladiatir-zlo
      Gladiatir-zlo 3 July 2013 22: 13 New
      +2
      Excuse me, again this messianic tone, Russia failed, but what for they are needed, these Bulgarians and the whole Balkan harlot, let them bite each other. Saxons pitilessly pit peoples, and then these same battered peoples flee to England, now the United States, for approval and help. Enough gentlemen, get involved in all kinds of dubious graters, that's enough. It’s time for politicians to play on the contradictions of our opponents, and not soldiers to rot in the trenches, but to cover the fields with bones.
  3. Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 3 July 2013 09: 16 New
    +7
    after 1878, Russia appointed Alexander Battenberg as viceroy in Blg-
    I suppose he began to mason in the Balkans, etc. - shopping mall. the government of R. has already beaten pretty oiled .-
    Further - English. Nicholas cousin 2nd Edik persuaded Nicolas to sign / 1907 / an agreement on R.'s entry into the war, if Great was participating in it. how to refuse a cousin? -
    - The Bulgarians let down the desire to return to the border of 1000 years ago, from sea to sea. Well, even though Tsar Boris refused to send troops to Vov. Perfectly understanding that the bloc troops would not fight the Russians / like Rumini, Italians and Hungarians /. "suddenly" died immediately after returning from Berlin.
  4. Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 3 July 2013 09: 29 New
    +3
    still
    the Bulgarians themselves did not have much after the wars with the Turks. Here the governor Battenberg / teenager almost / struck there a few. years, and put king Ferdinand / Austrian, the namesake of the one who in 1914 slapped in the barn / -He prepared everything, as a freemason / -no need to forget that EVERYTHING, or almost all of Europe. monarchy - the masons / Templars / from the 13th century. - and to this day.-And the Masons plan for the centuries ahead.
  5. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 3 July 2013 10: 50 New
    -3
    In 1878, Russia had to finish off Turkey, take the straits. And then, from the sidelines, how these hot Balkan guys figure it out, supporting one or the other side. Weighing this idea of ​​"brothers-Slavs" in the Balkans was delusional from the very beginning. As a result, in 1878, it seems that they won the war and put the soldiers down and got nothing politically.
    1. Vladimir73
      Vladimir73 7 July 2013 20: 41 New
      0
      It was impossible to take the straits then. We were not ready to fight with the British and French (and the fact that Austria-Hungary would have got involved in this swara also - do not go to a fortuneteller)
  6. sokrat-71
    sokrat-71 3 July 2013 11: 12 New
    0
    Thanks for the interesting article!
  7. tomas.09
    tomas.09 3 July 2013 12: 02 New
    +4
    When the "Brothers" -Slavs are doing well, Russia tries .... is not needed. As soon as hemorrhoids begin, screams begin, save me, brothers !!!!
  8. a
    a 3 July 2013 12: 27 New
    +1
    Russia has already suffered so much because of the pan-Slavic positions of previous rulers. We always wanted to give something to the Slavs, we held out our hands. the Slavs took our hands and everything, and then they beat on that same hand. nafig, it is necessary to remove the pan-Slavic emotions. only a pragmatic approach. no fraternal peoples. this does not apply to Ukraine, Belarus
  9. Zhylaw
    Zhylaw 3 July 2013 13: 09 New
    10
    Hello to all of you, comrades.
    The understandable bitterness of what happened in Bulgaria after the end of the Warsaw Pact does not allow considering all the facts.

    I want to insert here something a little far from the topic of the article.
    I myself do not condone the foreign policy of my country, so I will not defend this betrayal here.
    Just to illustrate, I will say that I do not consider my military oath to be in force from the moment Bulgaria joined NATO.
    Not only me, many Bulgarian men do not want to fight under the flag of those who were previously a likely enemy, especially if you have to fight with Russia.
    In no case can you equate the Bulgarian political class with the Bulgarian people. This class is riddled with corruption, behind-the-scenes deals with Western invisible power structures such as the Bilderberg Club (former president Peter Stoyanov, for example, is an important figure there).
    Even today, just today, the country is trying to implement the Orange Revolution. Several non-governmental organizations, with the support of the famous George Soros and several corrupt media are trying to make a coup.

    But this, unfortunately, is only our problems that arise solely because of our own stupidity.

    I wanted to say something else: We must not forget that Bulgaria became one of the gifts for the United States and President Bush at a meeting between him and Mikhail Gorbachev in Malta (from December 1 to 3, 1989).
    From that moment, everything was predetermined. Small countries like Bulgaria cannot remain independent and neutral. Moreover, if, unfortunately, they are at crossroads of strategic importance.
    I also think that it would not be superfluous to recall that Bulgaria's membership in NATO and the European Union was ratified without a referendum. We are, they say, "democracy", but our leaders do not like to risk asking the people what they think.
    When the Warsaw Pact was, we were real allies. Behind these words can be anyone who has ever served in the ranks of the Bulgarian army until 1989. Most of the people of Bulgaria continue to bring Russia to their hearts, remember the 1878 war of liberation, and also the great support that we had from the Soviet Union in all respects.
    What happens during the remaining years of the century no one can say, but I personally think that the European Union in its current form does not expect a particularly bright future. Many here believe that the country's future is connected with Russia.
    Old love does not rust. Wait and see.
    1. Terrible ensign
      Terrible ensign 3 July 2013 15: 06 New
      +2
      Zhylaw, welcome you!
      For a very long time, in a dialogue with a representative of the former country of the social camp, it was not possible to find the same position that you stand on your own, on which most of the colleagues present here stand. Thank you for your kind words addressed to Russia, and especially to the Soviet Union! Like you, the Oath was taken by another, still Soviet ...
      1. Sour
        Sour 3 July 2013 21: 59 New
        +1
        And if, apart from the Soviet oath, I also took the Russian oath, then am I worse than you? If anything, he served the Union and Russia honestly.
  10. Wolf
    Wolf 3 July 2013 13: 26 New
    +7
    The article is good, but like the official history, it does not say the most important thing, how it scores! After the release of the Turks, the people in Bulgaria weigh up to Sophia, they called themselves Serbs, which is not strange, being that there were people there from ancient times, interfered with it. With the coming to the throne of Saxe Coburg, Gotha in Bulgaria and Greece and the Freemasons in the governments of these countries, and also in Serbia, the Masons, the beginning of the processes of the intensive division of the people of these countries and the rise of faљivy national sentiment and identity. Then comes the great-power ambitions of the Bulgarian sovereign Saxe Coburgh Gotha, Katori did not beat Slaven. Normally, Pan-Slavism could not mean anything. Therefore, the Bulgarian government has always betrayed both Serbia and Russia, there is nothing that country does not exist. The most important request is: "How the Romanovs admitted that bi Sax Coburgh Gotti came to the throne in Bulgaria and Greece, after they were freed from Turks "?, which beat the foundation of the Balkan Warriors. But I don’t want to say how the world behind the scenes organized the introduction of the new Rumunskiy ezik and letter, and the same thing in Serbia and Bulgaria, at the beginning of the 19th century, through various reforms. The advancement of the Saxe Coburgh Gotha and the Rothschilds and Freemasons to the east beat in the place and with the same mark, and this is the suppression of the Slavic peoples and their State. The consequence of such a policy beat the genocide over the Orthodox Slavs in the Balkans in the 1st and 2nd World War and almost the destruction of the Serbs in the Balkans, as the kids themselves did with the Luzhichky Serbs a long time ago, in today's Germany! Normally the end is seen, but this is the Orthodoxy of Slavenia in Ukraine and in Russia. Greetings to you little brother and I need to think a little bit about who writes the history (chronicle) to us, and for what?
    1. stoqn477
      stoqn477 3 July 2013 19: 38 New
      0
      After Turks was freed, the people in Bulgaria weigh up to Sofiye, called himself Serbs, which is not a country,

      Was it just someone who said or did you read documents from the Ottoman Empire? Our two peoples never mix as you wrote. Let's not forget, and hit us in the back in 1885. Then the Prince of Bulgaria Alexander Battenberg was not Ferdinand.
      1. Marek Rozny
        Marek Rozny 3 July 2013 20: 37 New
        +4
        Comrades Bulgarians! Why is it that all the time it turns out that Russophobes rule you? Every time at a critical moment, Bulgaria finds itself in an enemy camp, and ordinary Bulgarians shrug their shoulders and explain that they say that they are not to blame ...
        Once - randomness, second time - coincidence, third time - regularity.
        I have no desire to see the Bulgarians as enemies, but I am convinced that in the event of a third world war, everything will be as before - Bulgaria will be on the side of the enemy against Russia / Eurasian Union, help our enemies, and then it will smile and say: " We are not to blame, it is our president who is to blame. " It's the same every time.

        PS I have the same distrustful attitude towards the Serbs, as well as towards the Bulgarians.
      2. Wolf
        Wolf 3 July 2013 21: 46 New
        +1
        I read the document, and vi? read the Habsburg story!
  11. Opera
    Opera 3 July 2013 14: 13 New
    +5
    Quote: Zhylaw
    Zhylaw

    Your comment is permeated with the bitterness of an honest person. And this honest bitterness is more true than any sweet words, not requiring justification. Thank you, it inspires hope.
  12. Opera
    Opera 3 July 2013 14: 20 New
    0
    Quote: uno
    only a pragmatic approach

    Mind you are right, but it will not be Russia!
  13. datur
    datur 3 July 2013 14: 39 New
    0
    and what are they after that, bros ...
  14. Alexandr0id
    Alexandr0id 3 July 2013 16: 01 New
    +3
    in the Balkans there never was, and apparently never will be, a "Slavic brotherhood." throughout their history, the South Slavic peoples and their rulers were guided by small-power ambitions, not fraternal feelings. this was one of the reasons for their weakness and so long submission to the Ottomans.
    but for the Greeks that the Slavs, that the Turks are invaders who destroyed Byzantium, so I never understand the arguments about the Orthodox brotherhood with the Greeks, the Greeks need this "brotherhood" exclusively for Russian consumption, in order to provide external support to the Hellenes against Turkey, in relation to neighboring Slavs, no Orthodox brotherhood has ever worked.
    1. Wolf
      Wolf 3 July 2013 16: 33 New
      +3
      AlekhDROID, I read a little chronicle of Russia, and warriors, from Peter to the 1st world, there you will see many Serbs, even Generals in Borodino. They did not fight there for money and pragmatics, but for heart and soul. So a beam of literacy to exercise you than a droid here!
      1. Alexandr0id
        Alexandr0id 4 July 2013 13: 07 New
        +4
        and if you read the history of the Ottoman Empire, then there will be Serbs serving the Sultan. there were no consanguinity with the Turks, and this did not interfere with serving.
        you Serbs managed to quarrel with your siblings, Muslim Serbs (Bosnians) and Croats, so there is no need for fraternal feelings.
        1. Wolf
          Wolf 4 July 2013 18: 37 New
          +2
          Alex we don’t need to give lectures! We know our annals very well. Our father betrays his sin where he beat and what he did today, so hard to deceive us! and at 1 world warrior they beat Serbs in Russia, and we red and white like the Russians, they shared the fate of the people! So in 1991 we launched a fight against world fascism and Rothschild money 1 in the world. There are about 7.000.000 of us, and NATO fought for 10 years, and with various thugs from all over the world. Nobody, NOBODY helped us, except for the honesty of the Russian volunteers, HEROES, and not the pragmatists and the gold of Kubiteљ, and your Jews simply threw us at the authorities like ........ So today the authorities in Serbia are Queenslenses, a servant of world fascism, Malenki mi that bi 1 defeat them. If you have the courage to scold, then you don’t have to pay for the Serbs. Again, we will pick up 300.000 -500.000 fascists on ourselves! And you went your sights with pragmatics, and with gold to the Jews there will live a ray! And the Russian Heroes will always live with us in fraternity, and in our hearts!
  15. retvizan
    retvizan 3 July 2013 18: 03 New
    +2
    the article is interesting, thanks. The Balkans are a continuous tangle of ethnic and religious contradictions, especially with today's active external support. It can be seen even here - Wolf as a Serb claims that the population of all Western Bulgaria is Serb, it is highly doubtful. And he forgets that the territory of Macedonia was Bulgarian-speaking until the 20th century, and no one called himself Macedonian by nationality. All this was organized later, when this territory became part of Yugoslavia. And it is really striking that both Serbia and Bulgaria began to remember Russia only when someone pressed very hard. How the whole country is bombed in 98 - Russia, brothers, help. The bombs have stopped falling and are already striving with might and main to enter the EU. The very same aircraft of the states-leaders of which (Britain, France, Germany) actively participated in the "settlement" of the "special case". The younger generation of Bulgarians is also already more negatively disposed towards Russia (at least that is what their acquaintances living in Sofia say), forgetting that they owe their existence as a state to her. Well, the greatest hyena that has always been like this is Romania, which was beaten by everyone and always and which rushes to grab something only at the moment when the neighbors are weakened and cannot answer.
  16. Semurg
    Semurg 3 July 2013 21: 02 New
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    When the Russians begin to talk about helping liberate the Slavic brothers, they want to deceive themselves or their little brothers. If they are stupid, if their little brothers are double stupid. There was a war between the Republic of Ingushetia and the Ottoman Empire, and both of them solved their purely pragmatic tasks of expanding and strengthening their countries. and the care of the Republic of Ingushetia and the brothers and Turks about Muslims is noodles for the ears of the liberated and their artists. And the fact that the new countries clashed with each other, it was also necessary to find out the balance of forces, and the Bulgarians made it clear that there would be no domination of one country on the balcony nah, the LRA, as Serbia has received today.
  17. Sour
    Sour 3 July 2013 21: 06 New
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    Several centuries later, another "alternative historian" and author of the "new chronology" will say that there was neither the first Balkan war, nor the second, nor the post-Yugoslavian war in the 90s, but there was one Balkan war of all against all. At the same time, he will refer to higher mathematics and astronomy, and fans will agree with him.
    laughing
    A joke, of course.
    But seriously - then I encountered the Bulgarians back in Soviet times. Everyone who I saw disliked the Russians, sometimes a little hidden. And not at all surprised that in both world wars we were not allies. What is the use of being freed from the Turks? World War I ended up in the same bloc with the Turks, but not with Russia.
    I know Serbs poorly. I can’t say anything about them.
  18. Sour
    Sour 3 July 2013 21: 15 New
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    Quote: Semurg
    When the Russians begin to talk about helping to free the Slavic brothers, who do they want to trick themselves or their little brothers.

    That is true, but Russia in 1877-1878 did not intend to annex Bulgaria (as it had annexed Poland before), but planned to create an independent Bulgarian state. Yes, they counted on the pro-Russian orientation of Bulgaria. But they did not intend to seize it from Turkey in order to annex it to Russia. Of course, this was a war of liberation from Russia, and not a war of aggression.
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 3 July 2013 22: 02 New
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      Quote: Sour
      Quote: Semurg
      When the Russians begin to talk about helping to free the Slavic brothers, who do they want to trick themselves or their little brothers.

      That is true, but Russia in 1877-1878 did not intend to annex Bulgaria (as it had annexed Poland before), but planned to create an independent Bulgarian state. Yes, they counted on the pro-Russian orientation of Bulgaria. But they did not intend to seize it from Turkey in order to annex it to Russia. Of course, this was a war of liberation from Russia, and not a war of aggression.

      The war of liberation is a war for the liberation of its territory, and so the two empires fought a war for their interests. Russia had an interest in weakening Turkey by creating states hostile to Turkey, Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia, but instead of breaking Turkey, they would give Istanbul and the straits to Russia as a sign of gratitude for " liberation "grappled with each other and began to look for allies around the world. It is understandable to be in a white" liberator "but this has nothing to do with politics, let alone imperial politics where there is no place for different sentiments about brotherhood (Russia has two allies, the army and fleet is said honestly and briefly) .Let's leave the USSR in brackets, this state was based on other principles.
  19. Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 3 July 2013 23: 02 New
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    Quote: Semurg
    Quote: Sour
    Quote: Semurg
    When the Russians begin to talk about helping to free the Slavic brothers, who do they want to trick themselves or their little brothers.

    That is true, but Russia in 1877-1878 did not intend to annex Bulgaria (as it had annexed Poland before), but planned to create an independent Bulgarian state. Yes, they counted on the pro-Russian orientation of Bulgaria. But they did not intend to seize it from Turkey in order to annex it to Russia. Of course, this was a war of liberation from Russia, and not a war of aggression.

    The war of liberation is a war for the liberation of its territory, and so the two empires fought a war for their interests. Russia had an interest in weakening Turkey by creating states hostile to Turkey, Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia, but instead of breaking Turkey, they would give Istanbul and the straits to Russia as a sign of gratitude for " liberation "grappled with each other and began to look for allies around the world. It is understandable to be in a white" liberator "but this has nothing to do with politics, let alone imperial politics where there is no place for different sentiments about brotherhood (Russia has two allies, the army and fleet is said honestly and briefly) .Let's leave the USSR in brackets, this state was based on other principles.

    - fed up with their armies and navy- / quote from the king / -Where did they beat in 1991? fleets with armies? solved the housing problem? even with Syria vi are not decisive. Chatterboxes.
  20. Sour
    Sour 3 July 2013 23: 13 New
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    Quote: Semurg
    (Russia has two allies, the army and navy are honest and short)

    Already the Russo-Japanese War showed that these allies are very unreliable, albeit costly.

    But it's not that. Like it or not, but Bulgarian statehood was destroyed by the Turks, and restored as a result of the war of Russia against Turkey, and this was envisaged by the pre-war plans of Russia. And the fact that Russia in this war did not forget its interests does not cancel the liberating nature of the war. Never cancels. Otherwise, it will have to be stated that in 1945 the USSR did not liberate Czechoslovakia (also deprived of its statehood), and the United States did not liberate France.
    1. Xnumx kopeek
      Xnumx kopeek 3 July 2013 23: 45 New
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      and Berlin, the United States was liberated, and the Persian king Darius was beaten. Is that all? not enough with.
    2. Semurg
      Semurg 4 July 2013 00: 14 New
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      The "liberation" of Bulgaria is a by-product of the war with Turkey and not the goal of the war - the goal of the war is the victory over the Ottoman Empire. The same liberation of the Czech Republic is not the goal of the war - the goal is to defeat Germany.
      1. castle
        castle 4 July 2013 01: 53 New
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        Not Czech Republic, but Czechoslovakia (January 01, 1993 Czechoslovakia was divided into two independent states - the Czech Republic and Slovakia). In addition, it was necessary to defeat Nazi Germany and to fulfill what was agreed in Yalta - again to divide Europe into spheres of influence between the USSR and the Western allies. In addition, the eastern part of Czechoslovakia was annexed to the USSR (this was the region of Uzhgorod, Mukachov and Khust, joined to Czechoslovakia in 1919 on the basis of peace conferences - a complicated story). Western part of Czechoslovakia. through Karlovy Vary, Plzen, České Budějovice was cleared of the Nazis by the American army under the command of General Bradley (he was subordinated to General Pattn or Patton in Russian) Then this area was transferred to the Soviet administration. As you can see, not everything is so simple in this world. So, please, with less emotion and more knowledge and erudition.
        1. RUR
          RUR 31 July 2013 00: 28 New
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          Well, do not make laugh about such a noble Pan-Slavism of Russians, a joke after all.
          Holodomor in Ukraine, a blow to the rear of Poland in 1939 (the USSR was an accomplice of Nazi Germany), the future disappearance of the Luzhitsky Serbs ((Their language is disappearing and, as a result, the Serbian people. It is necessary to write that the Lusatian Serbs live in Germany. The phrase "Luzhitsky Serbs" in Russian - this book borrowing through Slavic literature from Polish, Czech and German languages, those Russians before borrowing this phrase had no idea who they were (Vasmer's Etymological Dictionary of the Russian Language, article LUZHITSKY)) also on the conscience of the Russian communist elite. ,
          BUT THE USSR DOES NOT ALLOW TC. I was afraid to offend (push away) the German communists. TO SAVE OWN SKIN OR PERSECUTE THE OWN INTERESTS OF RUSSIA ALREADY LONG LONGER LIKE TO SPIT ANYTHING CALLED SLOVENIANS.
          In fact, 50% of Russians have the so-called Asian gene
  21. Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 3 July 2013 23: 43 New
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    Quote: Scary Warrant Officer
    "When there is no agreement in friends, their business will not go well ..."
    Most of those present on the resource probably read Pikul's "The Honor". Even if not from the point of view of historical fact, then from the point of view of emotions and general mood, the situation is shown quite colorfully and fully ... Bulgarians are still "peppers": starting with the Balkan wars and ending with world ones, and even later events (the country's accession to NATO ), the development of the situation in the Balkans (generally in southeastern Europe) largely depended on the position of this country. The desire to have more at the beginning has always led to embarrassment in the ending. Let's see how the history of this state will develop further (in relation to the current state of affairs). Thanks to the author for the article.

    -perts then everything / - The first pepper is Russia itself, with a supernatural number of Jews in power. Have you thrown the Serbs elementarily? threw it. Still blather? -Do not be pepper yourself first .-
    Or, as one saint said, Save yourself, and thousands around you will be saved-
  22. Kremlin
    Kremlin 4 July 2013 09: 03 New
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    if you look at the truth, what kind of "Brothers" they are, they are more like "friends" from the south ... well, and lazy ...
  23. valerii41
    valerii41 5 July 2013 22: 21 New
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    Serbia and Bulgaria on the territory are comparable with any region of Russia, the difference in population; Serbs and Bulgarians per unit area are a little thicker. Imagine the Magadan and Kemerovo regions started to fight with Europe would not have found a wet place from these areas but Serbia and Bulgaria are not part of Russia. Some European countries sniffed the Russian fist and Russia couldn’t get their minds to protect Serbia and Bulgaria in order to survive, let them sit on two chairs, we don’t have common borders, and it is not possible for Europeans to set these states against Russia. So that the Europeans are democratic, they will throw money for the leadership of countries to Licia was fed wearing rubber bullets and gaz.Vyydut on strike peasants teachers, doctors on Kushan rubber bullets at sniffing gas satiated and go home. This can be seen in Greece and Spain. With the Poles and more interesting for the American missile defense they wear a beautiful military uniform there, not with a TNT, the warhead will fly, and with uranium the form will burn the corpses will remain.
    1. RUR
      RUR 31 July 2013 00: 00 New
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      "With the Poles and more interesting for the American missile defense they wear a beautiful military uniform there, not with TNT, the warhead will fly and with uranium, the uniform will burn the corpses."

      The wind rose is such that there the wind blows mainly from West to East to Russia. (Will there be corpses in Russia?)
      And whether they reach Europe (Russian missiles), you yourself say that there is now a missile defense system there
  24. paunch
    paunch 7 July 2013 09: 17 New
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    The guys are the editors of the site, please follow the rules of the Russian language. Spelling and punctuation errors in the article are annoying. And not only in this article.
  25. niksanpk71
    niksanpk71 11 October 2013 17: 59 New
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    Just to let you know. After the initial retreat of the Bulgarian army, the Greek army was surrounded in the vicinity of the city of Simitli, the Serbian army was stopped and driven back over the Zletovsk river. The Bulgarian army had a real opportunity to develop a new offensive with success, but at this time Russia gives the green light to Romania as compensation for Moldova and save its Serb pets.