Edward Snowden asked for political asylum in Russia

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A former CIA officer wants to stay in Moscow. Ex-CIA officer Edward Snowden has filed a request for political asylum in Russia, a representative of the consular service Sheremetyevo said. Earlier, President Vladimir Putin noted that Mr. Snowden could be granted asylum if he ceased to “damage” the United States.

The duty consul of the consular post of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation at Sheremetyevo Airport, Kim Shevchenko, told Interfax that a former CIA official, Edward Snowden, had applied for political asylum in Russia.

“Yesterday in 22: 30, a British citizen Sarah Harrison addressed the consular office of the Russian Foreign Ministry at Sheremetyevo Airport, who introduced herself as a lawyer and a confidant of US citizen Edward Snowden. She conveyed Edward Snowden’s request for political asylum in Russia, ”Mr. Shevchenko told the news agency.

Sarah Harrison is a lawyer with the Wikileaks organization who accompanied Mr Snowden on his flight from Hong Kong to Moscow and the transit zone of Sheremetyevo Airport, where the ex-CIA officer is in April with 23.

A source in the airport services added that in the event of a positive decision by the Russian authorities, Mr. Snowden can bring the documents directly to the airport, after which he will be able to pass the border control and formally enter the territory of Russia.

Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov refused to comment on the request for asylum in Edward Snowden in Russia. The head of the Federal Migration Service, Konstantin Romodanovsky, said earlier today that such a request had not been submitted to the service.
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  1. +9
    2 July 2013 07: 42
    Well, it's so "unexpected" ... laughing
    "Where is he going to get off the submarine?" (FROM)
    1. +4
      2 July 2013 07: 52
      Do I have one not a good feeling?
      1. +29
        2 July 2013 08: 00
        Quote: Denis
        Do I have one not a good feeling?

        No, not one. The time has come X, a turning point for our country: can we spit the states on the face or not. If we can’t, then in Syria they will crush us.
        1. +5
          2 July 2013 08: 04
          Quote: Vladimirets
          The time has come X

          I agree, give it back, let's go down the slope ...
          1. +15
            2 July 2013 08: 10
            Quote: Denis
            I agree, give it back, let's go down the slope ...

            When asked about the extradition of Snowden, Putin said yesterday: Russia is not giving anyone away! The only condition for Snowden will stop merging info, which can be regarded as -Drain everything at once hi
            1. +7
              2 July 2013 08: 13
              The most interesting thing is still to come that the Snowden Americans will not get it most likely, and this business can get some unexpected turn.
              1. +3
                2 July 2013 10: 07
                I doubt very much that the story will receive a significant continuation in the near future, since Putin said that his interests do not include dealing with Snowden and "this is an ordinary transit passenger, free to fly anywhere" ... Well, I remind you that the list of countries in which polit the shelter is pretty big: Austria, Bolivia, Brazil, China, Cuba, Finland, France, India, Italy, Ireland, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, Norway, Poland, Spain, Switzerland, Venezuela, Russia.
                This means that Snowden will be "pickled" in the Sheremetyevo transit zone for more than one week, and it seems to me that this is correct!
                The members of the forum who have voiced about "premonitions" are simply wishful thinking.
                Putin is not stupid, and will not trade international relations for "empty space", but this does not mean that he will betray someone, because on this occasion, there was also a very clear answer from Putin himself.
                1. Anhaght
                  +1
                  2 July 2013 14: 38

                  REN TV
                  The elusive Edward Snowden in the transit zone of Sheremetyevo Airport was talking with someone. Our correspondent got to the capsule hotel in the transit zone and found out that the fugitive American agent was still staying at the capsule hotel, and having rested, he left the hotel accompanied by several men. Between Twitter, even a blog appeared on behalf of an empty seat from the Moscow-Havana airplane - this is an armchair that Snowden reserved, but never took. And on the blog, on behalf of an empty chair, the following entries appeared: “I feel empty, the journalists on the plane somehow look very viciously at me, and for some reason they didn’t give me a drink.”

                  Jun 28 at 14:53
                  https://vk.com/rentvchannel
              2. +1
                2 July 2013 11: 34
                Quote: Canep
                and some unexpected turn this business can receive.

                Change Snowden for all escaped bastards in London and the USA wassat
                1. 0
                  2 July 2013 13: 12
                  A spokesman for the Russian president said that the extradition of a former CIA officer to the United States is not possible, reports Interfax. Peskov also stated that Edward Snowden abandoned intention to seek asylum in Russia, learning about the condition that Vladimir Putin put forward - not to conduct anti-American activities. http://russian.rt.com/article/11635
                  ____
                  So you jumped down ... Snowden himself decided so or ours asked him to withdraw so as not to disgrace - it is unknown.
                2. 0
                  2 July 2013 13: 47
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Change Snowden for all escaped bastards in London and the USA

                  ... with your surcharge. And then an equivalent exchange will succeed. laughing
                  1. 0
                    2 July 2013 13: 48
                    Quote: Canep
                    . with your surcharge.

                    Well I'll give a steward once such a thing laughing
            2. RA77
              +3
              2 July 2013 08: 42
              You never know what he said. The leader of Ecuador also spoke a lot up to a certain point and was such an important one. "Himself - in, but important!" Yes, as soon as he talked with the Vice President of the United States, he immediately turned on the back. I'm afraid that Barack-hip-hop-Obama would not call Putin and the same would not work out. Putin is already beginning to say something strange, saying that he will consider the asylum application if Snowden "stops harming the United States." Of course he won't stop.
            3. +1
              2 July 2013 10: 45
              Most likely - merge everything, but only in our specialists and without too much noise.
            4. +1
              2 July 2013 12: 15
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              When asked about the extradition of Snowden



              Zhirinovsky again proposed to exchange Snowden for Bout and Yaroshenko

              Anyone reassure this clown?
            5. 0
              2 July 2013 13: 01
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Asked about the extradition of Snowden, Putin said yesterday

              Fugitive ex-American intelligence officer Edward Snowden gave up his intention to stay in Russia. The condition put forward by Vladimir Putin, on which he could "hypothetically" obtain asylum, did not suit the whistle-blower, the presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov said on Tuesday. The condition was that Snowden should abandon further "anti-American activities," he recalled.

              According to Peskov, who is quoted by all leading news agencies - ITAR-TASS, Interfax and RIA Novosti, the American remains in the transit zone of the Sheremetyevo airport, he did not cross the Russian border. The press secretary once again stressed that the Russian special services had never worked with Snowden, and that he was not their agent.
              This is what I had in mind, speaking of apprehension, ours TALKED.
          2. 0
            2 July 2013 08: 22
            Oh right, comrades, oh right ...
        2. RA77
          +10
          2 July 2013 08: 48
          Quote: Vladimirets
          No, not one. The time has come X, a turning point for our country: can we spit the states on the face or not. If we can’t, then in Syria they will crush us.

          Snowden's father said yesterday that he was disappointed in the rulers of the countries. Well, it’s clear that they will write to the USA So if Putin plays back and surrenders Snowden, I will be disappointed in the rulers. Well, with me there are a few more people too, I think. Because so far only three countries are more or less free in their decisions: the USA, Russia and China. But Putin is the hardest of the leaders of this three countries and if he bends, then that's it ...
        3. +4
          2 July 2013 09: 34
          Quote: Vladimirets
          The time has come X, a turning point for our country

          Eugene, good morning! You literally said word for word what I think, and most of the members of the forum, I hope. Now the "moment of truth" has come. A lot will depend on the decision made, including the attitude of the Russian people to the leadership.
          1. +2
            2 July 2013 12: 10
            Quote: IRBIS
            Eugene, good morning!

            Alexander, hi
            Quote: IRBIS
            Now the "moment of truth" has come. A lot will depend on the decision made, including the attitude of the Russian people to the leadership.

            So let’s see if the amers (top management) are turning the amers or not. But for some reason it seems to me that if there were serious covert levers of pressure, then there would not be all the hype from Congress about all sorts of sanctions, retaliatory measures, etc.
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        4. zMouze
          -11
          2 July 2013 09: 48
          Tell me, what benefit for our state, what political, economic benefits will the provision of such a status to this person bring? Well, our Motherland will give him refuge, well, spit in the face of the Americans? So what?
          Politics is that and politics that we must weigh the pros and cons ...
          This "ex" American will not bring anything good.
          1. alex popov
            +14
            2 July 2013 10: 01
            Quote: zMouze
            Tell me, what benefit for our state, what political, economic benefits will the provision of such a status to this person bring? Well, our Motherland will give him refuge, well, spit in the face of the Americans? So what?
            Politics is that and politics that we must weigh the pros and cons ...
            This "ex" American will not bring anything good.

            The biggest benefit is that the REST of the theoretical fugitives will know for sure. that "There is no extradition from the Don" and who knows, tomorrow another "Sakharov's follower" may appear with other important secrets. Well, a technical specialist, not by hearsay familiar with the secret programs of the United States in the field of security, a priori, a "big jackpot" for the intelligence services of any country in the world.)
            1. +1
              2 July 2013 23: 03
              Quote: alex popov
              The biggest benefit is that the REST of the theoretical fugitives will know for sure. that "there is no issue from the Don" and who knows, tomorrow another may appear


              Purely my IMHO, just for the sake of this, it makes sense to bother, not assuming that a big fish will go to us by itself. It's just that the world should clearly know that there is a country in which a person who wants to live in good conscience will always find refuge. And the fact that it can be a valuable source is secondary and not very interesting in principle. Sources are trivially bought in America for American rubles ...
          2. itkul
            0
            2 July 2013 19: 02
            Quote: zMouze
            Tell me, what is the use for our state,


            And here it is useful, you still remember Honecker, whom we betrayed and expelled from Russia, how then it was a shame for the country
        5. Airman
          0
          2 July 2013 18: 56
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Quote: Denis
          Do I have one not a good feeling?

          No, not one. The time has come X, a turning point for our country: can we spit the states on the face or not. If we can’t, then in Syria they will crush us.


          They didn’t spit, the GDP refused political asylum, alas and AH.
      2. +2
        2 July 2013 08: 18
        Quote: Denis
        Do I have one not a good feeling?

        Quote: Denis
        Do I have one not a good feeling?

        And what a hunch? Putin said he would provide asylum. I don’t remember something that he did not fulfill his promises.
        It seems to me that the question has already been ventilated earlier and this is only officialdom.
        1. +4
          2 July 2013 08: 33
          Quote: domokl
          I don’t remember something that he did not fulfill his promises.

          smile
          1. +5
            2 July 2013 09: 03
            I don’t remember something that he did not fulfill his promises.

            laughing
        2. +4
          2 July 2013 08: 37
          They read what Zadornov wrote, in my opinion it is washed away in his words, in the sense that Snowden can be a decoy duck with the goal of reviving the image of Russia as an evil empire, but it is also impossible to give it away, let us put ourselves on the level of Ecuador. In my opinion, Putin will give refuge, but on the conditions not to harm Amers, it will be a Solomon’s decision, and Snowden will be able to merge Old through his sidekick to Wikileaks, go and see where the info got
          1. +1
            2 July 2013 09: 04
            Yes, what Wikileaks is there, let it face down!
            1. +1
              2 July 2013 10: 29
              Yes, I think he wrote more than one essay laughing
          2. RA77
            +6
            2 July 2013 09: 06
            Quote: PDM80
            They read what Zadornov wrote, in my opinion it is washed away in his words, in the sense that Snowden can be a decoy duck in order to revive the image of Russia as an evil empire

            I was always surprised by such silly versions and the people who believe in them. Those. The United States allowed to reveal the entire enormous scale of its surveillance of people, diplomats and even some countries, and has already gotten a lot of trouble on its head, and in the future they will still get it (because all this information will be taken into account in the development of programs, which will complicate surveillance) plus ruined the image of a state fighting for human rights (since they themselves are trampling on these rights) and all this is only so that it is possible, POSSIBLE, to put Russia in the role of the "Evil Empire"? Rave! In the states themselves, the attitude towards Snowden is generally positive. Slightly less than half of Americans (44%), according to the Washington Times, believe that Snowden's act was correct, i.e. do not consider him some kind of villain or something like that, and the country that sheltered him is also unlikely to be considered "evil"
            1. +1
              2 July 2013 09: 42
              Quote: RA77
              I was always surprised by such stupid versions and people who believe in them.

              Yeah ... they found the best reason to send a spy.
              Zadornov is just a stage clown, what else to expect from a clown?
              Although in general he is not a stupid man, but this time he clearly waved someone off ...
              1. dima1993
                +1
                2 July 2013 10: 16
                just zadorn correctly says !!! Who knows what the Americans came up with !!
              2. 0
                2 July 2013 10: 30
                And he is not a spy, maybe a provocateur, a means to check what Russia is capable of, how much it can raise the degree of confrontation. But there is no spy, no one talks about it.
            2. +1
              2 July 2013 10: 28
              Firstly, Americans don’t give a damn about the opinion of Europe, they understand perfectly well that a bunch of fagots they can’t do, as long as the world currency is dollar and Europe needs America, as the Americans showed, we will give explanations only at the level of diplomats, secondly, the Americans said that everything was normal, everyone was always watching everyone, and that’s normal, thirdly, what important secrets did Snowden reveal, and really didn’t say anything, it was something that many suspected, and thirdly, he had to go to Moscow, for example, not to Beijing ? The idea that this is a setup is due to the fact that the actions of this guy are either spantane or well thought out, and the best way to cover up a far-reaching plan is to present his chain of unrelated events. In general, you can invent and guess as much as you like, but I think by the end of the week it will become clear more or less where all this leads
          3. 755962
            +1
            2 July 2013 09: 11
            Somehow, the image of the states in recent years has been very complicatedly undermined. Foldable and, importantly, systematically.
            Let's see what this Edik is like ... Another nail in the lid of the "partners", or a pain in the ass ...
            1. +2
              2 July 2013 11: 37
              Quote: 755962
              Somehow, the image of the states in recent years has been very complicatedly undermined

              so the US goes along a slippery path, so you can break your neck.
          4. Jin
            +1
            2 July 2013 10: 41
            Quote: PDM80
            Snowden can be a decoy with the goal of reviving the image of Russia as an evil empire, but it is also impossible to give it away, let us put ourselves on the level of Ecuador.


            And how, excuse me, to assess the issue with Bout, a citizen of Russia? They can not extradite, but we can not? They are constantly staining us in * aries and we are not yet becoming an empire of evil, rather, on the contrary, the "world community" is changing its views and more and more begin to think about who hu is. To the level of Ecuador? I hope this is a joke?
            1. 0
              2 July 2013 10: 47
              They didn’t understand the context, I’m saying that you can’t give it out, if we give it out, it means they were scared, like Ecuador. It just brings us what the question is. And Booth is actually accused of a felony, and not of treason! Somewhat incorrect comparison
              1. Jin
                0
                2 July 2013 12: 36
                Quote: PDM80
                Somewhat incorrect comparison


                The point is not the article of the prosecution, but the fact of the refusal of extradition. I’m talking about that. And what will his extradition bring to us? I don’t think that the extradition of Snowden will bring us anything ... all the more so since we do not have an agreement with the USA. The man exposed the system of total surveillance, we, as an interested party, are simply obliged to provide him with watered. And I'm wondering. Why did he even get into all this? Did you want fame?
          5. +2
            2 July 2013 12: 31
            Quote: PDM80
            In my opinion, Putin will give refuge, but on the conditions not to harm Amers, it will be a Solomon’s decision, and Snowden will be able to merge Old through his sidekick to Wikileaks, go and see where the info came from

            I agree with this half of the message - the average solution, in which the wolf was a little comforted, and the sheep did not go bankrupt.

            Putin, as can be seen from his words, does not welcome the confrontation with America, but to give Snowden this is not an option either, therefore he has to get out of such ambiguous decisions.

            What consequences such a decision will bring to our country ... Honestly, the rest of the decisions would have hurt more if we thought, rather than tear the throat.
            And so Snowden can be preserved and opened later, if necessary, which may not arise. Or, as the quoted citizen wrote, to merge Snowden's information not through Snowden.

            By the way, I am once again amazed at Putin’s ingenuity, they expected him to be unambiguous, but he gave out such a thing that you won’t immediately understand who is profitable for him ... At least, I think it won’t hurt.
            1. 0
              2 July 2013 14: 12
              all gentlemen happened, there will be no refuge for him in Russia, Snowden refused Putin's conditions
        3. +2
          2 July 2013 09: 40
          Quote: domokl
          Putin said he would provide asylum. I don’t remember something that he did not fulfill his promises.

          This is not even funny ...
        4. 0
          2 July 2013 11: 36
          Quote: domokl
          . I do not remember something that he did not fulfill his promises.

          He promised to defeat corruption, but did not fulfill laughing
          1. 0
            2 July 2013 13: 42
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            He promised to defeat corruption, but did not fulfill laughing

            The joy of corruption is intact?
            From what failed, unfortunately, so far, to do this?
            1. 0
              2 July 2013 13: 45
              Quote: huut
              The joy of corruption is intact?
              From what failed, unfortunately, so far, to do this?

              There is joy, but there is humor! Open the explanatory dictionary and see what is the difference between words recourse
              1. 0
                2 July 2013 16: 06
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                There is joy, but there is humor!

                According to the explanatory dictionary, this is like gloating, not humor. Such a humor, even Petrosyan will not understand.
      3. dima1993
        0
        2 July 2013 10: 05
        and why? Do you think that the Americans sent Snowden to make shtoto ?????? You know, I also have such a thought!
      4. dima1993
        +1
        2 July 2013 10: 42
        the surname of our consul is not a good surname of traitors! Yes, I think he is already recruited! do not go to the grandmother!
        1. +1
          2 July 2013 11: 39
          Quote: dima1993
          the surname of our consul is not a good surname of traitors!

          And what is your surname, not Vlasov’s hour?
          Quote: dima1993
          Yes, I think he is already recruited! do not go to the grandmother!

          Two questions
          1 What do you think?
          2 What do you smoke?
      5. +2
        2 July 2013 13: 55
        Quote: Denis
        Do I have one not a good feeling?

        Your bad premonitions were confirmed. Our politicians have settled ...
        http://warfiles.ru/show-33984-peskov-snouden-otkazalsya-ot-idei-polucheniya-ubez
        hischa-v-rossii.html
        So the amers have leverage, and bad presentiments immediately appeared in Syria. Corrupt and cowardly politicians have been and will be. Disgusting sediment on the soul! The Amers never formulated such shameful excuses, they didn’t give a damn about the smell of anti-Soviet activity from our residents. The enemy of Russia and the USSR has always been a "friend" for them (note, I put it in quotes). Although for this "friend" (they always treated the corrupt skin with contempt, the traitor never deserves respect even from those to whom he sold out). It's a shame for such words. And Snowden was begged to see very much so that he would withdraw the application and abandon the idea of ​​asylum in Russia! How can you trust our authorities after that.
    2. +7
      2 July 2013 09: 26
      Time to show character and shelter the dissident ... the boomerang is back ...
  2. +6
    2 July 2013 07: 43
    No wonder ... he can be saved only in Russia (for the rest, the gut is thinly associated with the states)
    1. -2
      2 July 2013 07: 45
      and Russia, too, "useful" as a spare tire for an elephant.
      As Putin said: "It's like shearing a pig - there is a lot of screeching, but little wool."
      1. +1
        2 July 2013 08: 14
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        and Russia, too, "useful" as a spare tire for an elephant.

        You then see a strategist and smarter Putin. You would have long been given to amers judging by your comments.
        1. +2
          2 July 2013 08: 22
          By no means, I would have kept him for another two weeks in Sheremetyevo, but for now I watched the howl and made the right conclusions, and after that I decided what to do next ... And there you look and the amers calm down, realizing that it’s better to be silent than to yell stupid, how some are here on the forum, blaming everything serious instead of rational thinking and careful reading ...
          And maybe Snowden himself will "remember" something else in these two weeks, after which he will finally spoil the air of the United States, and he will no longer be interesting to them ... Well, you get the hint, right?
          Well, thank God I'm not Putin laughing I am sure he will have the only right solution.
          ___
          And I look like you chop off the shoulder and not thinking about the consequences? I warn you in a friendly way - this is a solid practice ... tie up ...
          1. 0
            2 July 2013 08: 50
            Quote: We refund_SSSR
            Well, thank God I'm not Putin

            Really. Thank God!
          2. +1
            2 July 2013 11: 41
            Quote: We refund_SSSR
            By no means, I would have kept him for another two weeks in Sheremetyevo, but for now I watched howl and made the right conclusions, and only after that I decided what to do next

            Everyone sitting at the computer knows better than Putin how and what to do, and if beer is also in his hands then GENERAL ... wassat
            Quote: We refund_SSSR
            Well, thank God I'm not Putin

            Thank god you're not the president laughing
            1. 0
              2 July 2013 13: 33
              It is very interesting HOW do you comment on the fact that Snowden refused asylum in the Russian Federation allegedly because of the high demands of the President of the Russian Federation.
              Spies are not scattered ??? laughing
              Funny you guys are "forum generals"
              _____
              Meanwhile:
              Edward Snowden broke the silence to promise new revelations
              http://russian.rt.com/article/11605
              And how does this coincide with my words above:
              Quote: We refund_SSSR
              And maybe Snowden himself will "remember" something else in these two weeks, after which he will finally spoil the air of the United States, and he will no longer be interesting to them ... Well, you get the hint, right?

              And after Snowden pours all the dirt about the USA, you can take it to yourself and here we get clean and the USA is all dirty ...
              Why would he drain the mud when it is officially ours? After all, every such drain is a scandal and it turns out it would be our scandal.
              I’m speaking to you, stop thinking clumsy ... Be cunning and diplomatic
              Thank god you're not a marshal laughing
              1. 0
                2 July 2013 13: 47
                Quote: We refund_SSSR
                It is very interesting HOW do you comment on the fact that Snowden refused asylum in the Russian Federation

                Another disa for the world media, in a week there will be a new infa.
                1. 0
                  2 July 2013 13: 51
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  in a week there will be a new infa

                  Oh, progress is forthcoming laughing You begin to understand the whole situation) good
                  But that's exactly what I said above.
                  Can you also assume for the sake of what desa and for what to wait a week (a week - this is higher in your estimation)?
      2. +1
        2 July 2013 08: 21
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        and Russia, too, "useful" as a spare tire for an elephant.

        Well, yes ... Russia will do well without intelligence .. Stupidity was written, and it’s uttermost. Scouts do not scatter, especially scouts of a potential enemy ...
        1. +1
          2 July 2013 08: 29
          Yes, get rid of me already laughing some annoying!
    2. 0
      2 July 2013 14: 11
      Quote: MIKHAN
      he can be saved only in Russia (for the rest, the gut is thinly associated with the states)

      I agree with you, but the gut was thin and our politicians. Gave the link above.
      http://warfiles.ru/show-33984-peskov-snouden-otkazalsya-ot-idei-polucheniya-ubez
      hischa-v-rossii.html
      This is just in case, just in case.
  3. +1
    2 July 2013 07: 47
    Who would doubt that...
  4. pilot mk
    +3
    2 July 2013 07: 48
    Save Snowden to the right moment. I think he will tell a lot of interesting things, but everything has its time.
  5. MilaPhone
    +1
    2 July 2013 07: 52
    Most likely they will be sent to Venezuela.
  6. +1
    2 July 2013 07: 52
    passport in exchange for silence, and a bonus bronnik with a helmet :)
  7. +5
    2 July 2013 07: 58
    Obtaining citizenship of the Russian Federation is an important precedent. Fighters with the dictatorship of the United States will receive a clear example of the fact that there is still a state in the world that upholds the principles of freedom, democracy and justice.
    1. +1
      2 July 2013 08: 23
      Quote: krpmlws
      Obtaining Russian citizenship is an important precedent

      The question of citizenship of the Russian Federation is not worth it and there was no such information anywhere. There is a request for political asylum ...
    2. RA77
      +2
      2 July 2013 09: 16
      Quote: krpmlws
      Obtaining citizenship of the Russian Federation is an important precedent. Fighters with the dictatorship of the United States will receive a clear example of the fact that there is still a state in the world that upholds the principles of freedom, democracy and justice.

      I agree. After that, reports of various American human rights organizations that Russia does not respect human rights will be especially funny laughing Remove the log from your eye lol
  8. Anhaght
    +2
    2 July 2013 08: 36
    No matter how the future fate of Snowden, he has already completed his task. At this stage of the development of events in the Middle East, the breakdown in relations between the old world and the older brother is most welcome. At a minimum, this is a gain in the time needed to consolidate the constructive forces in Syria and strengthen the position in Iran.
  9. -2
    2 July 2013 08: 37
    Are there any other options:
    1. Exchange for someone from ours who is hiding from the law abroad.
    2. Arrange with a third country and secretly, under a false name, put them on a plane. But he will never cross our border.
    1. RA77
      +4
      2 July 2013 09: 18
      1) On Buta already offered
      2) This is not masculine. Like mice, damn it. Can a country like Russia do this ??
    2. 0
      2 July 2013 11: 44
      Quote: IsailoR
      2. Arrange with a third country and secretly, under a false name, put them on a plane.

      Did Obama call you?
      US persuades Russia to deport Edward Snowden to any third country
      WASHINGTON, July 2. / Corr. ITAR-TASS Dmitry Kirsanov. The United States, in its dialogue with Russia on the situation around Edward Snowden, mainly convinces Moscow to repatriate him or deport him to a third country, possibly Eastern Europe, so that she then transfers the former contractor to the US National Security Agency / NSA / Washington.

      This was reported on Monday evening by the Associated Press / AP /. It cites three unnamed US officials as a source of this information.

      http://news.mail.ru/politics/13725225/
      1. +1
        2 July 2013 13: 05
        The United States looks like a snake in a frying pan, they themselves turn around and knock others out.
  10. 0
    2 July 2013 08: 38
    Although if you have the task of "spitting in a brazen democratic mug" (after careful calculations), you can accept it.
    1. RA77
      +1
      2 July 2013 09: 20
      This is where McCain disengaged. He will hold his teeth together and threaten Putin with serious and serious consequences.
      http://russian.rt.com/article/11575
      McCain

      1. Grigorich 1962
        0
        2 July 2013 12: 36
        Let this McCain drown in his anger ... American ....
      2. 0
        2 July 2013 14: 51
        This is he after a stroke when he was informed that Snowden is in Moscow.
  11. 0
    2 July 2013 08: 46
    This morning, Euronews reported that Putin would not give Snowden political asylum in exchange for an oath by the Americans not to persecute him. And Snowden, in turn, must refuse to continue his illegal activities. But something seems to me like a duck ... They are trying to push the GDP towards such a decision ...
    1. RA77
      +3
      2 July 2013 09: 31
      What do you mean "trying to push"? He should do that! Otherwise, he will stand on a par with Rafael Correa, who looked like a man, and then it turned out that he was not. Even more shameful is his (Correa) attempt to somehow shield himself. I found a scapegoat in the person of the consul who somehow managed to give out temporary docks to Snowden like without the knowledge of the head of the country.
      1. 0
        2 July 2013 15: 37
        Quietly, it would be beneficial for Russia to provide asylum only after all other countries have pressed their tail and subsequently refused to provide asylum (well, we don’t think that North Korea and Iran, but it’s possible that they will be afraid).
        After that, it will become clear who is the only independent country in the world.
        This will put all local (and many foreign) human rights defenders in an "uncomfortable" position, who will also have to admit this fact, because they cannot deny that Snowden is "an exemplary human rights defender" (some already admit, gritting their teeth).
        So this chess game is just beginning.

        My prediction: Snowden wakes up and at the end promises to "not harm the United States" and will receive asylum, but at the same time will engage in human rights activities - he will organize any international foundation named after himself.
        "Do not harm" is a very vague concept, harm still needs to be proved.
  12. fenix57
    +1
    2 July 2013 08: 49
    Quote: Vladimirets
    The time has come X, a turning point for our country: can we spit on the states in the face or not

    I liked the performance of the GDP, where he said that you are sewing them, not Snowden and "sweetened" the barrel of tar the condition for staying in Russia is that Snowden does not carry out work that is harmful to "our American partners" (for now, we must assume that he is here). Now the State Department plunged headlong into .. . good
  13. 0
    2 July 2013 08: 52
    Expectedly. I wonder what CIAshnik himself thinks? Someone who sees the whole picture more than we do. The special services bow, they worked beautifully. IMHA man knows more than leaked - otherwise they would have hunted him not with the goal of taking him back, but with an ice ax.
  14. Titov
    -1
    2 July 2013 08: 58
    Snowden - a provocation against Russia.
  15. +2
    2 July 2013 09: 00
    I think you need to provide shelter! definitely. Not to spit in the face of the United States ... Just a man worked in the security services and a lot of things can tell the FSB !!! THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
    1. RA77
      +1
      2 July 2013 09: 37
      Then this will justify the US attempts to return him to the country and judge. Because he will become an ordinary traitor. In the meantime, he turns out not to be a traitor, but a fighter for human rights and against the lies of the government.
  16. 0
    2 July 2013 09: 01
    If only they would not merge it quietly after a while. And then, as always, they began for health, and ended for peace ...
  17. +1
    2 July 2013 09: 19
    Interestingly, the petition was filed after Putin said that Russia would not extradite anyone and set conditions for Snowden's "reception". He agreed to see these conditions. If they give them asylum, it will kick the Americans in the ass and the special services will have a lot of interesting things. After all, Putin demanded not to harm the United States, and we, even if we learn Snowden's secrets, will not do any harm. Honestly! We're partners, aren't we ??
    1. RA77
      +1
      2 July 2013 09: 49
      Quote: Wedmak
      Interestingly, the petition was filed after Putin said that Russia would not extradite anyone and set conditions for Snowden's "reception". He agreed to see these conditions.

      The petition was filed even after it became clear to the chicken in the yard that the head of Ecuador was dead. And the number of countries is a comma-separated list so that they can quietly be scared and hope that someone else from the list will give shelter. And then if you turn directly to someone and they refuse, then it immediately becomes clear to everyone that they are afraid of the consequences. And so a minimum of damage to the international image of an independent country.
      From the very beginning of this whole story with Snowden, Russia said that it would consider the petition, if such was filed. But Snowden then methyl in Ecuador.
      1. 0
        2 July 2013 09: 57
        The petition was filed even after it became clear to the chicken in the yard that the head of Ecuador was dead.

        Did they have options? If memory serves, they are very dependent on the United States.
        From the very beginning of this whole story with Snowden, Russia said that it would consider the petition, if such was filed.

        But she did not say whether this petition would be granted! Those. the game is still on.
        But Snowden then methyl in Ecuador.

        Something I doubt. I would have labeled there, I would have sat there long ago. Why was he then flying to Ecuador through Moscow? There were no other shorter ways?
        1. RA77
          0
          2 July 2013 11: 18
          Quote: Wedmak
          Did they have options? If memory serves, they are very dependent on the United States.

          Well then, you should not climb! Even I know that if you understand that you have to make some important act, then you need to figure out the consequences of this act in your head. And if you are ready for these consequences, then feel free to act as you decided. Otherwise, do not twitch. Moreover, this should be understood by the head of state, on whose decisions the future of the country depends. But Correa apparently does not know this. He decided that since Assange didn’t have anything for him then he would give a ride. However, it turned out differently. He was not ready for such consequences, and in the end showed himself from the worst side. As a person who didn’t think and did the stupid thing and to hide it, he who found a scapegoat on which he hung everything. Such behavior does not honor a person.
          Quote: Wedmak
          Something I doubt. I would have labeled there, I would have sat there long ago. Why was he then flying to Ecuador through Moscow? There were no other shorter ways?

          I don’t know what Snowden was thinking about when choosing such a route, but in Moscow he stayed in my opinion solely because Ecuador did not let him know that if he arrives there, he’ll definitely get shelter. Therefore, he did not board the flight to Havana, awaiting the exact decision of Ecuador at the airport. And as we see, I did it right.
  18. -3
    2 July 2013 09: 20
    Nafig he is not needed here.
  19. Vtel
    +1
    2 July 2013 09: 23
    President Vladimir Putin said Mr. Snowden could be granted asylum if he ceases to “damage” the United States

    If NOT cease to “harm” the United States. So it will be more correct. In Ecuador, he was quickly caught by cashier secret services.
    1. +5
      2 July 2013 09: 40
      "Damage to the US" and "benefit to Russia" are completely different things! The second Putin did not forbid him to do! laughing
  20. +5
    2 July 2013 09: 33
    Vladimir Putin noted that Mr. Snowden could be granted asylum if he stopped “damaging” the United States.

    Well what the hell. The West does not hesitate to shelter anyone. Moreover, not only will it not limit the sufferer in actions against Russia, but will also help in every possible way. GDP is chewing snot. For once, in the hands of a trump card for information warfare, but no, the point of "harm" the United States.
    Damn, in connection with this, I have a question, if I, as a citizen of Russia, inflict damage to the USA, will I receive a censure of the president of the Russian Federation?
    1. RA77
      +1
      2 July 2013 10: 06
      Putin is not chewing snot, he is trying to find a legal excuse not to betray Snowden, and not to drive the lawlessness "what I want, I turn it over."
      He behaves in the same way in Syria. We supply weapons, but this is all within the framework of the law, according to contracts concluded earlier. Do not quibble. But Americans, Qatars and Saudis cannot and do not want to find such a legitimate excuse. Rod like a hog. They invented a story with gas, but no one believes in this nonsense. There is no evidence.
      1. +1
        2 July 2013 10: 22
        Quote: RA77
        We supply weapons, but this is all within the framework of the law, according to contracts concluded earlier.

        Sample delivery, please. I don’t know a single one from the beginning of the war. I also did not hear Assad’s unequivocal support, only co-ownership of the violated international law.
        1. 0
          2 July 2013 10: 27
          And in your BDK just so dangle here and there? Westerners returned the bulk carriers with helicopters, figs with you, transported to the BDK. And for sure, besides turntables, there were other weapons + ammunition transported there.
        2. RA77
          +2
          2 July 2013 10: 52
          S-300, some kind of anti-ship missiles ("Yakhont"?) I also remember there were. Anyway, we understand that BODs are actually being transported to Syria with other weapons. Recently, a list of weapons allegedly ordered by Syria slipped through here. Kalash, MANPADS, etc.
          And I disagree with you about the companionship and lack of unequivocal support. Russia is very supportive of Syria, as far as I can tell. A veto in the UN Security Council, naval ships off the coast of Syria, then and on an ongoing basis, a grouping of ships in Mediterranean decided to create a base on the island of Cyprus, they agreed to open a base on the island of Cyprus, constant condemnation by the Foreign Ministry of all US movements, etc. "Friends of Syria", etc. Besides, we don't know a lot. For example, infa (http://www.vz.ru/news/2013/6/28/639205.html) that Russia, Iran and China "are helping the Syrian government to carry out international financial transactions, delivering oil monthly for 500 million dollars and expand the lines of credit. " By the way, many here said that China was on the sidelines after it had vetoed the UN Security Council together with Russia. If you trust the information above, then China also helps, only on the sly.
          1. 0
            2 July 2013 11: 37
            Quote: RA77
            sort of too

            Quote: RA77
            weapons allegedly ordered by Syria.

            Quote: RA77
            a group of ships in the Mediterranean decided to create,

            Quote: RA77
            here’s an agreement to open a base on the island of Cyprus

            Agree, speculation is given, not facts. Syria is a small country and the front in that war is blurred. Any supply of serious weapons is impossible to hide. I trust ANNA-News, Thunder. Not a single report on the appearance of new weapons by the Syrians is reported. And secrecy has nothing to do with it. Officials do not declare deliveries. Putin openly stated that the S-300s were not delivered, only you don’t hear it.
  21. +3
    2 July 2013 09: 36
    The states and England itself will never betray anyone, why should Russia do this? Let them return Zakayev, the corpse of Berezovsky and so on. Then the conversation will turn out ...

    And let Lukashenko extradite Bakiev. We are entering the same organizations, but they are doing this to us ...
    1. RA77
      +1
      2 July 2013 10: 16
      England has nothing to do with it, neither does Belarus. And so, the only one they can exchange for is Booth or that SVR officer who handed over a group of our scouts (Anna Chapman is among them). But then ordinary people will really regard it as meanness on the part of Russia. A man came to us fleeing from the lawlessness of his own, and we seized him and exchanged him with him. So far, Snowden is not a traitor to the country, but a person fighting for human rights and against government lies. And if this is now exchanged for a criminal according to the concepts of the United States (Booth) or a criminal according to the concepts of Russia (that officer), then, in the eyes of many, Russia will turn out to be something like an "Evil Empire" as some here say.
  22. +2
    2 July 2013 09: 41
    The United States "demands" from Russia the transfer of Snowden to third countries, a preemptive move ... apparently there are all the ointments ... let's look at the development of events further, if such a transfer takes place, everyone will understand that this is after US pressure ... Putin's word ... ...
    1. +4
      2 July 2013 09: 47
      USA "demands" from Russia to transfer Snowden to third countries

      The USA cannot do anything in principle require in Russia. Already can not. I hope Putin will play this position in favor of Russia. So let the United States follow the well-known three-letter route.
  23. Xnumx kopeek
    0
    2 July 2013 09: 42
    snowden-
    snow - snow.
    den - a nook, corner, shelter., etc.
    It turns out -Eduard Berloga? - belay
    - / almost Berlaga of Zol. calf / -Next will be Skumbrievich
  24. +1
    2 July 2013 09: 48
    A predictable event has occurred. European democracies are on a short leash with Uncle Sam. To go there means to surrender oneself to the clutches of American "justice". The only safe haven is Russia.
  25. vladsolo56
    0
    2 July 2013 09: 56
    I am sure 200% will not give him asylum
    1. 0
      2 July 2013 14: 20
      Quote: vladsolo56
      I am sure 200% will not give him asylum

      I think so!
  26. Grigorich 1962
    +1
    2 July 2013 09: 56
    The strong course of our foreign policy ... approving .... that's what I wanted
  27. alex popov
    +2
    2 July 2013 10: 06
    Must give. For a simple reason. If they don’t give it now, next time such specialists will run to China.
    And if they are sure that "there is no issue from the Don," then after Snowden, specialists in other fields may come. As it was with the USSR in the late 80s. Plus, Putin has already said
    that ex-CIA agent Edward Snowden can stay in Russia if he wants, but on one condition - he must stop harming the United States with his revelations. He also noted that Russia does not intend to extradite Snowden, since "no one has ever extradited anyone to us either."

    That is, translating from diplomatic to colloquial: Firstly, FIG you, not snowy, and secondly, there will be no free information anymore, all questions are now with us. And thirdly, we won’t let the United States harm Snowden, we can handle it ourselves. )
  28. 0
    2 July 2013 10: 15
    The Norwegian Foreign Ministry also said that it had received an appeal.
    1. 0
      2 July 2013 10: 34
      Appeal received:
      Austria,
      Bolivia,
      Brazil,
      China
      Cuba,
      Finland,
      France,
      India,
      Italy,
      Ireland,
      Netherlands,
      Nicaragua,
      Norway,
      Poland,
      Spain,
      Switzerland,
      Venezuela,
      Russia.
      1. +1
        2 July 2013 11: 51
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        Appeal received:

        A large half will gladly give it to bring it to PAPA on a silver platter, (Poland ..etc.)
        1. 0
          2 July 2013 13: 16
          Quote: Denis
          Poland ..etc.

          Honestly, I also somehow doubted the adequacy of these people after reading this list
  29. 0
    2 July 2013 10: 32
    Yes, for such people it’s necessary to build dormitories, tea doesn’t go empty-handed)))
  30. Oldréd
    +9
    2 July 2013 10: 35
    Whether we need Snowden or not, is not so important. If the United States succeeds in extraditing him, they will raise their authority and show everyone that they can do what they want and whoever opposes it will be severely punished. Hong Kong (actually China) and Ecuador have already shown that they are afraid to contact the United States. If Russia gives it away, it will show the whole world its independence and political weakness, but the United States will most likely take it for granted and we won’t receive any bonuses. If we give refuge to Snowden, relations with the American establishment will be badly damaged and they will look for a reason to repay, but other countries, albeit quiet, but respect, and the US dissidents there will become bolder.
  31. Unknown
    0
    2 July 2013 11: 03
    Interestingly, I alone believe that with the information from Snowden, you can well push the United States against the wall. angry
    1. 0
      2 July 2013 11: 12
      you can well push the US to the wall

      What's the use of pressing them? After all, the USA, if they need to, spit on any laws. There is no need to carry out examples, I think. And how do we press them? They'll just ignore our attacks, that's all. "Vaska eats and eats" - that's about them.
      1. 0
        2 July 2013 14: 28
        Quote: Wedmak
        What's the use of pressing them? After all, the USA, if they need to, spit on any laws. There is no need to carry out examples, I think. And how do we press them? They'll just ignore our attacks, that's all. "Vaska eats and eats" - that's about them.

        They will continue to spit until they begin to give them on the head. And it is already necessary to give, and when this process goes on, they will feel very uncomfortable, and there will be no time for spitting when the countries are drawn to STRONG RUSSIA!
    2. 0
      2 July 2013 11: 39
      Quote: Unknown
      I alone believe that with the information from Snowden, you can well push the United States against the wall.

      You may not press it against the wall, but you can work with it.
    3. Grigorich 1962
      0
      2 July 2013 12: 54
      you can’t squeeze the states against the wall .... but the fact of the publication of this information seriously undermined the relations of many countries with the United States .... in short ... they crap one's pants .... inside the States themselves right now a whole wave has begun .... society was divided into those who believe that Snowden is right and those who are wrong .... in any case, it is beneficial to us
    4. 0
      2 July 2013 14: 25
      Quote: Unknown
      Interestingly, I alone believe that with the information from Snowden, you can well push the United States against the wall.

      Yes, not just "squeeze it well", but press it down so that g ... will climb through your mouth! But the will is needed again. If the LADY were in power, there would be no doubt, and even if they gave it out, it would not be a surprise, LADY he is in Africa LADIES, but they expect nothing from Putin, and not even because it is possible to annoy the United States, but because to respect OUR head of state and from this point of view to look at amers well, not so much from below as under EBN!
  32. 0
    2 July 2013 11: 05
    For some reason, it seems to me that Snowden was originally an agent of someone’s intelligence (either China or Russia), the whole drain of information is a beautiful conclusion from the game. Now we are waiting for someone to shelter him ...
  33. 0
    2 July 2013 11: 38
    Quote: DmitryU
    For some reason it seems to me

    There may be a lot of things that seem including what you think! The truth is usually much more complicated and interesting!
    Nowadays, the fact that Snowden is in Russia is a very interesting thing and speaks a lot about what and obviously does not raise the authority of the USA!
  34. ed65b
    +1
    2 July 2013 12: 14
    The opinion of members of the forum is controversial. Let's wait a little while and everything will fall into place. It’s more logical for Snowden to stay here. There is a guarantee that they will not steal. Recently, the United States has been doing this regardless of face. And their relationship is already sluggish. The United States and London do not look back at us when they give political terror to thieves and criminals. Israel, too, has sheltered adultery. In general, I am silent about the abduction of the Russians. so a great opportunity to click on the nose of the United States let them be in our shoes.
  35. 0
    2 July 2013 12: 29
    Behave like stoned selling girls!
  36. +3
    2 July 2013 12: 33
    If the Russians surrender the snowden, then they must leave to live in China. Russia then in the full sense of the US derivative!
  37. 0
    2 July 2013 13: 32
    Yes, more ... Today in Euronews the president of Lithuania (or whatever I don’t know), Lithuania said something like this: well, what, they say, if it’s necessary for business, we don’t mind. Let the amers want to eavesdrop on what. We are not in a complaint. We know what a dangerous struggle they are waging all over the world with terrorism ... That's it!
    1. +1
      2 July 2013 13: 42
      .Today in euronews in the morning the president (or whatever they don’t know) of Lithuania

      They are not used to licking the loin of their master.
  38. Lakkuchu
    +3
    2 July 2013 14: 29
    Russia wants to quickly get rid of the uncomfortable guest. According to media reports, Snowden refused political asylum in Russia after conditions announced by Putin. The question arises, since when did Russia begin to worry about the damage inflicted by the United States from "anti-American activities", let me remind you of this condition of Putin? request So little Ecuador has already granted asylum to Assange you see, but Russia doesn’t go to sleep, putting forward this strange and unacceptable condition for Snowden. Imagine if such a situation occurred with our agent, but the Yankees would ring around the world as a poor martyr, a fighter for freedom and democracy against the authoritarian regime of Putin, who is hunted by the evil KGB (FSB) that listens to the whole world and everywhere violates human rights. They would have made the most of the situation by exposing Russia in an unsightly light. Fight fire with fire.
  39. unkou
    0
    2 July 2013 14: 45
    You haven’t heard that the entire database of Internet users has been leaked to the network with open access! There is all the information from personal photos and videos to personal correspondence and copies of documents. Of course, you can delete your data if you do not want everyone to see them. Here is the link http://oua.be/1298

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"