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Tests BTR-3РК

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20 June at the Goncharovsky ground BTR-3RK fired rockets ATGM "Barrier" and a machine gun NSVT.








































































































































































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  1. yanus
    yanus 2 July 2013 08: 49
    +5
    Tests ... The boys went on a picnic! )
    1. Firstvanguard
      Firstvanguard 2 July 2013 13: 26
      +4
      Hairy Leg - Megabrutal wassat
    2. Airman
      Airman 2 July 2013 20: 44
      +2
      Quote: yanus
      Tests ... The boys went on a picnic! )

      The title of the article is "BTR SAM", I see the BTR, I see the ATGM, I do not see the SAM.
      1. Akim
        Akim 2 July 2013 20: 58
        +2
        Quote: Povshnik
        SAM I do not see.

        I advise you to read: BTR-threeRK
    3. biznaw
      biznaw 3 July 2013 00: 02
      +2
      Tests of the suitability of the Chinese shale for the Ukrainian military. Instead of boots and footcloths, socks and shoes are being introduced in them, they have slates, and that saving is not necessary either footcloths or boots with socks. The tests were successful. Recommended for implementation in the Ukrainian army.
      :-)
      Seriously, a painful impression, a hack, an imitation of development ... they lost the highest design and engineering school in the USSR in Ukraine, it seems that it will be even worse with designers and mechanics in Ukraine. Independence and independence from the mind, damn it.
  2. Akim
    Akim 2 July 2013 09: 00
    +6
    ATGM does not recharge automatically. Him minus.
    1. black_eagle
      black_eagle 2 July 2013 15: 32
      +1
      As I understand it, there can be four missiles on the guides, an APC will be enough for life, and then either a tick or it becomes a target
      1. Akim
        Akim 2 July 2013 18: 28
        0
        Quote: black_eagle
        there can be four missiles on the guides;


        It was possible to make a clip reload (2 missiles per clip), but it is clear what the customer wanted. Of course you can’t stick a drum on Sturm-S, but simple mechanization could come in handy.
  3. Apostle
    Apostle 2 July 2013 09: 32
    +2
    Hmmm, "serious tests" ....
    1. Akim
      Akim 2 July 2013 10: 06
      0
      Quote: Apostle
      Hmmm, "serious tests" ....


      And what is frivolity?
      1. self-propelled
        self-propelled 2 July 2013 23: 53
        0
        Quote: Akim
        And what is frivolity?

        the campaign is that it’s not Russian. since it’s not Russian, it means bullshit. It has long been noticed bias here for Ukrainian weapons. request Alas. be that as it may, but the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is trying (doing the best of allocated finances).
        1. Akim
          Akim 3 July 2013 05: 18
          0
          Quote: self-propelled
          but the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is trying (doing the best of allocated finances).

          This ATGM (s) is developed exclusively for Thais. And they pay well.
        2. QW4238
          QW4238 3 July 2013 13: 16
          0
          It seems that the body was cooked by drunken gastrabayters, welds were made extremely sloppy. I did not expect such an abomination, in Soviet times the culture of production was higher.
          1. Akim
            Akim 3 July 2013 13: 40
            +1
            Quote: QW4238
            the welds are extremely sloppy.

            This is apparently an experienced car. There are some shovchiks like a medic based on a troika.
            1. QW4238
              QW4238 3 July 2013 15: 49
              0
              Look at photo 6 and 7, photo 6 shows that the paint is already bubbling (upper right corner, it will rust for 2-3 weeks.

              Quote: Akim
              This is apparently an experienced car. There are some shovchiks like a medic based on a troika.


              If experienced, then why post detailed photos where you can see such flaws, PR is our misfortune, the products can and do turn out good, and such flaws spoil everything.

              Being a customer, and seeing this disgrace, I will ask myself a question - if they can’t make the armored hull carefully, then the filling is the same as the engine with the chassis, and in general the project is washed down anyhow.
              1. Akim
                Akim 3 July 2013 16: 05
                0
                Quote: QW4238
                If experienced, then why post detailed photos where you can see such flaws, PR is our misfortune

                Woe from the mind ...

                Quote: QW4238
                if they can’t make the armored housing neatly, then the filling is the same as the engine with the chassis, and in general the project is washed down anyhow.

                Thais are happy with the cars they accept and want more. And then we draw conclusions from the photographs.
                1. QW4238
                  QW4238 3 July 2013 18: 30
                  +1
                  Quote: Akim
                  Quote: QW4238
                  If experienced, then why post detailed photos where you can see such flaws, PR is our misfortune
                  Woe from the mind ...

                  Thais are happy with the cars they accept and want more. And then we draw conclusions from the photographs.


                  You saw German, English or American cars with similar flaws, I do not. It is clear that they will bring it later, but it spoils the first impression, all the more so if one person can do it in a week.
                  1. Akim
                    Akim 3 July 2013 18: 43
                    0
                    Quote: QW4238
                    Have you seen German, English or American cars with similar flaws,

                    The Germans have a completely different culture of assembly and production. They inserted a rod into my broken arm, which we had in the late 90s, and the Germans blundered such soldiers during the 2nd World War. And no plaster and three days later to the front. So do not compare. But they all have it much more expensive.
                    1. QW4238
                      QW4238 4 July 2013 00: 41
                      0
                      He worked with Austrians, Germans, Norwegians - in my opinion we can work no worse than them (I speak for myself), we should not talk about another culture. Better they have put PR.

                      And the fact that they are more expensive - so to whom it is bad, everyone gets normal money and produces a quality product, not an ersatz, rotten tomatoes do not even need anyone for free.
                2. roial
                  roial 5 July 2013 23: 38
                  -1
                  car tiger
                  the same rough ones are visible

                  1. Akim
                    Akim 6 July 2013 15: 02
                    0
                    Quote: roial
                    car tiger
                    the same rough ones are visible

                    Well, we are not comparing Russian and Ukrainian armored vehicles. Here they blurt out the same way. We are far from the Nenets or, at worst, the British.
  4. Basileus
    Basileus 2 July 2013 09: 44
    +1
    The hairy leg of the photographer was especially touched in the foreground of one of the photos.

    But it’s sad that the shooting process itself is not captured.
    1. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 2 July 2013 10: 49
      +1
      Quote: Basileus
      But it’s sad that the shooting process itself is not captured.

      You have to be more careful !!!
    2. Old_kapitan
      Old_kapitan 2 July 2013 14: 15
      +7
      Basileus
      A lot of pictures - this is good. But a lot of almost identical ones are bad. And they do not carry any information: at an angle of 120 degrees, 125, 130 ... Half can be safely thrown out, it would look more dynamic. Indeed, there is only one with such a bunch of shooting, and even that is inexpressive.
      1. Alexander D.
        Alexander D. 2 July 2013 19: 49
        0
        Quote: Old_Kapitan
        Basileus
        A lot of pictures - this is good. But a lot of almost identical ones are bad. And they do not carry any information: at an angle of 120 degrees, 125, 130 ... Half can be safely thrown out, it would look more dynamic. Indeed, there is only one with such a bunch of shooting, and even that is inexpressive.

        Dear you do not think that they only rested



        1. Old_kapitan
          Old_kapitan 2 July 2013 20: 07
          +1
          And what was that? I'm more or less advanced, but two black squares for me are a bit much ...
          1. Alexander D.
            Alexander D. 2 July 2013 20: 33
            0
            Quote: Old_Kapitan
            And what was that? I'm more or less advanced, but two black squares for me are a bit much ...

            If the video has not passed, follow the link
            http://armor.kiev.ua/php/news.php?id=5726
  5. Canep
    Canep 2 July 2013 10: 09
    +6
    I got the impression that the guys went to relax and shoot, it seems that the diesel fuel wasn’t enough to get to the training ground, and decided to shoot somewhere, or at the Ukrainian training grounds for about 10 years no one put things in order, everything was thoroughly overgrown.
    PS I do not understand why minus?
    1. Old_kapitan
      Old_kapitan 2 July 2013 14: 10
      0
      PS I do not understand why minus?
      Because you talk nonsense. This is a training ground, not a lawn in front of a bungalow. I have been there several times, starting in 1983, and it has always been so, although about this "Ostersky Autonomous Okrug" - Oster, Goncharovskoye, Desna - the soldiers sadly joked: "It's better to go to the fire than to serve in Oster!" ... Discipline in these towns - Mama Don't Cry!
      1. Akim
        Akim 2 July 2013 14: 24
        0
        Quote: Old_Kapitan
        Desna - the soldiers sadly joked: "It is better to go to the fire than to get to serve in Oster!" Discipline in these towns - Mama Don't Cry!

        We went there for an internship in winter. Healthy poplars were cut in a European manner. Picture: there are two-meter stumps and a stele with the inscription "DESNA". But since we were traveling in the back, only two letters are read and then backwards: HELL. And when, at the end, I was offered to give a relationship for the direction after graduation, I replied with a Mironov phrase: Thank you, you'd better come to us. It's easy to get there. Transferring from there is almost impossible
    2. Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru 2 July 2013 15: 16
      0
      Colleague, you are wrong! In fact, this is the Goncharovsky polygon, Not Desna, not Oster, but Goncharovsky or, as the "indigenous" inhabitants called it, "Honduras". The 8th photo was taken immediately after the turn from the Chernihiv-Desna highway, and the 12th photo, just on the rise before entering the residential village itself, is now (compared to the 80-90s), pretty ruined. Well, and then, judging by the photographs, we drove past the military town of the 1st separate tank brigade of the 8th Army Corps of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and through the checkpoint drove to the territory of the range. Although, with a high probability, they could have entered from the direction of the abandoned town of the now disbanded 137 zrbr. The shooting was carried out from tank and rifle directors. It can be seen that the object is almost hand-assembled; the insides were crudely worked, and the painting was carried out with brushes. However, there is nothing surprising in this, tk. this is a prototype. They arrived, checked the performance of the equipment after the march, fired at the ATGM, the exercise from a machine gun - they were not in Kiev, but in the city, they were shooting.
      And you, colleague, what did you expect, the action movie, in the style of "Transformer"?
    3. self-propelled
      self-propelled 2 July 2013 23: 54
      +1
      Quote: Canep
      at the Ukrainian training sites of 10 years, no one put things in order, everything was thoroughly overgrown.

      well, so it’s a training ground for tone, not a golf lawn request hi
  6. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 2 July 2013 10: 40
    +1
    I noticed a lot of blue electrical tape around the cabin repeat not enough fasteners?
  7. PROXOR
    PROXOR 2 July 2013 10: 47
    +3
    BTR-82 as it will be more serious.
    1. Akim
      Akim 2 July 2013 10: 51
      0
      Quote: PROXOR
      PROXOR

      And the 82nd is already in the version of self-propelled anti-tank systems?
      1. beard999
        beard999 2 July 2013 14: 00
        +1
        Quote: Akim
        And the 82nd is already in the version of self-propelled anti-tank systems?

        This is just a matter of the combat module. For example, "Quartet-M" from KBP http://www.kbptula.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=115&Itemid=50
        1 & lang = en # spoiler_0.
        1. Akim
          Akim 2 July 2013 14: 12
          0
          Quote: beard999
          This is just a matter of the combat module. For example, Quartet-M

          It’s not thought. what is the question in the module. although I liked him. Then the continuation of the question. What is more serious in it? And why a grenade launcher in the ATGM (s) - for self-defense it is redundant.
    2. self-propelled
      self-propelled 2 July 2013 23: 55
      0
      Quote: PROXOR
      BTR-82 as it will be more serious.

      but tell me what?
  8. yanus
    yanus 2 July 2013 11: 11
    +2
    Quote: Akim
    Quote: PROXOR
    PROXOR

    And the 82nd is already in the version of self-propelled anti-tank systems?

    And why "rape" the armored personnel carrier, if all this happiness fits into the "Tiger"?
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/260/eozm717.jpg
    1. Akim
      Akim 2 July 2013 11: 19
      +1
      Quote: yanus
      And why "rape" the armored personnel carrier, if all this happiness fits into the "Tiger"?

      Similarly. But the Thais apparently wanted to BTR-3. Given its use in the marines - the goal is probably justified
    2. broker
      broker 2 July 2013 14: 29
      0
      How many passengers?
      1. Akim
        Akim 2 July 2013 15: 14
        +1
        Quote: broker
        How many passengers?

        Hard to say. There is very little information. It started rolling in not so long ago. This is not a pure ATGM (s). There is a self-propelled complex at the Dozora-B base, only there are no photos.
        1. Alexander D.
          Alexander D. 2 July 2013 20: 27
          0
          You do not know what kind of bulldozer is installed to the right of the NSVT?
          1. svp67
            svp67 2 July 2013 23: 02
            +1
            Quote: Alexander D.
            You do not know what kind of bulldozer is installed to the right of the NSVT?
            Maybe a night sight ...
            1. Alexander D.
              Alexander D. 3 July 2013 00: 04
              0
              Most likely there will be a thermal imager that has not yet been developed. But we, it seems, have organized work on the development of our matrix for thermal imagers, so they are waiting. A sight like this
              http://www.ipz.com.ua/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=165:2012-05-1

              7-16-34-30&catid=51:2012-05-17-07-19-02&Itemid=97
  9. Algor73
    Algor73 2 July 2013 12: 08
    0
    Previously, the tests were classified and carried out by the military. And now you don’t understand, they are reducing the army, all are doing civilian, no discipline. And the armored personnel carrier turned out not bad
  10. Argon
    Argon 2 July 2013 14: 24
    0
    My question is, what kind of engine and transmission does the BTR-3 (for the Ukrainian Armed Forces) and specifically those that will be delivered to Thailand?
  11. Letterksi
    Letterksi 2 July 2013 14: 34
    +2
    Photos from the series "how we went fishing" lol Well, okay! let's go, the cartridges and the anti-tank systems on the lawn were laid out, in general, as always, we had a good rest. And they shot a bit for fun. And here it is! look guys! my hairy leg is in shale. Well done! Slates are a special uniform for work on a new complex. They are stored in a special compartment, eight pairs per car! Before launching a rocket, they must be worn fellow

    Good selection of photos. Liked! lol
  12. biglow
    biglow 2 July 2013 17: 59
    0
    but Zil 131 and Maz are as old as they were. laughing
  13. datur
    datur 2 July 2013 21: 20
    0
    biglow SU Today, 17:59 PM New

    but Zil 131 and Maz are as old as they were on the go .--- so the USSR still steers !!! wink
    1. biglow
      biglow 2 July 2013 21: 32
      -2
      there is a lot of such good in the Ukrainian army. It’s very convenient to write off gasoline laughing
      1. svp67
        svp67 2 July 2013 21: 37
        0
        Quote: biglow
        but Maz is the same ancient on the go

        Quote: biglow
        there is a lot of such good in the Ukrainian army. It’s very convenient to write off gasoline

        Teach you how to operate a "diesel", you do it ..
        1. biznaw
          biznaw 2 July 2013 23: 58
          -2
          There is no gasoline for the 131st for a year now, probably they switched to diesel or Gas. And they also have there a lot of 131x redone on the gas generator, you can ride on wood and dung.
          1. Akim
            Akim 3 July 2013 05: 26
            0
            Quote: biznaw
            Gasoline for the 131st year is gone

            Do you personally write out gasoline for the Ukrainian army? Cars will still drive for a long time until they work out their regular resource. And only then they will change to the KrAZ-5233. The Americans, in the army, still have cars from the Vietnam War.
            1. biglow
              biglow 3 July 2013 13: 08
              0
              Quote: Akim
              Quote: biznaw
              Gasoline for the 131st year is gone

              Do you personally write out gasoline for the Ukrainian army? Cars will still drive for a long time until they work out their regular resource. And only then they will change to the KrAZ-5233. The Americans, in the army, still have cars from the Vietnam War.

              All-wheel drive Sadko's lawns have already been bought, but they are all in storage ..
              1. Akim
                Akim 3 July 2013 13: 46
                +1
                Quote: biglow
                Lawns Sadko

                "Sadko" is Shisharik's replacement. ZIL, KAMAZ and Urals will be replaced by a two-axle KrAZ. But this is over time.
          2. biglow
            biglow 3 July 2013 13: 02
            0
            Quote: biznaw
            There is no gasoline for the 131st for a year now, probably they switched to diesel or Gas. And they also have there a lot of 131x redone on the gas generator, you can ride on wood and dung.

            in Sevastopol, across the road, a Ukrainian ... the army is standing, all on gasoline. I haven’t seen army cars on gas. They sell gasoline for half the price ..
        2. biglow
          biglow 3 July 2013 13: 05
          0
          Zil 131 remained gasoline in Sevastopol in the Ukrainian army
  14. toldanger
    toldanger 2 July 2013 22: 17
    0
    Solid car, inspires respect for friends of Ukrainians
    1. svp67
      svp67 2 July 2013 22: 20
      -1
      Quote: toldanger
      Solid car, inspires respect for friends of Ukrainians
      Well, why wouldn’t she be like this, the basis is the old, proven, Soviet BTR80
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. Akim
        Akim 3 July 2013 05: 30
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        old, checked, Soviet BTR80

        Then it’s right to say - BTR-60PB. He is the ancestor of the family. The three have little in common with the BTR-80. Rather, only a concept. The nodes are different.
  15. seregggca
    seregggca 4 July 2013 16: 35
    0
    For such a "machine" ... the small amount of weapons. Or the weapons were installed on the wrong "machine".
    Albeit not all, but the most necessary, sufficient weapons Mona will put on a regular jeep.
    What for this armored personnel carrier? For the sake of a pair of rockets and a 12 mm machine gun?