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How Ecuadorian President "was blown away"

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How Ecuadorian President "was blown away"It seems that Ecuador was "blown away." And his American comrades "blew off", explaining to President Rafael Correa that it was not good to substitute his partners in such a way as to harbor "international criminals." That's what it is the latest news of the day about a man named edward snowden. The term “international criminal” of the United States implies Snowden, who some time ago poured information about the actions of the US special services, which were directly related to at one time.


Edward Snowden, as you know, flew to Moscow with the aim of moving to permanent residence in Ecuador. At the same time, Snowden was issued transit documents by the consul in London after he met with another man persecuted by the United States, Julian Assange. Now, President Correa put on his pants, realizing that he couldn’t pull the US against the same gentlemen against the United States, he decided to play back, saying that while Snowden was not in Ecuador’s territory, he did not have to wait for political asylum in that country. Correa even canceled the transit documents, calling the consul in London a man who had exceeded his authority. In all likelihood, this understanding of the situation in the Ecuadorian president manifested itself after his negotiations with Joe Biden. As the saying goes, "Joe, and you know how to convince!"

Meanwhile, a number of information agencies have information that the transit documents of the consul of Ecuador in London simply could not issue without the permission of the authorities of Ecuador - the government and the presidential administration. It turns out that Correa is also lying, trying to justify himself in front of the “democratic” world that already threatens Quito with his fist.

And after such News it becomes clear that the fate of Snowden is in the hands of the Russian president. If Putin, too, caved in under pressure from American partners, then this will be the option exactly the same as that presented by Correa. If Putin shows real rigidity in this matter, he will be able to crush the United States along with all the Magnitsky’s acts and the arrests and trials of Bout. The situation, which the Russian president is simply obliged to take advantage of, to put the whole "democratic" riffrader in place, accusing him of persecuting people for political reasons. Whether the Russian president will allow himself such a thing will be clear already in the near future.
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  1. avt
    avt 1 July 2013 10: 26 New
    +8
    “You want to live, you’re not getting so bored” laughing
    1. INTER
      INTER 1 July 2013 11: 38 New
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      Quote: avt
      which the Russian president is simply obliged to use in order to put the whole "democratic" riffraff in place,

      The Russian president owes nothing to anyone. If they consider it necessary, they will use it, and if not, they will come up with something else! The main thing is the right maneuver in a geopolitical game!
      1. Ataman
        Ataman 2 July 2013 09: 16 New
        0
        For the drain of information to Snowden, of course, thanks. But he, nevertheless, is a former enemy agent, who has no direct merits to Russia, and, as it does not sound harsh, a traitor of his own. I think that they will not provide him with political asylum in Russia. It’s the same as recognizing him as your agent. Sitting in the transit zone, it is much more interesting for politics, although this is cynical. I wish him as soon as possible to take refuge and fly away.
    2. Hammer
      Hammer 2 July 2013 03: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: INTER

      The Russian president owes nothing to anyone. If they consider it necessary, they will use it, and if not, they will come up with something else! The main thing is the right maneuver in a geopolitical game!


      That's for sure! A beautiful pose in favor of a one-minute gain, can then put the president himself in a stupid position ... Snowden is certainly a brave man who popped up against the US authorities, but ... to be honest, not far-sighted. Such plums must be arranged well prepared for them, having previously thought over the "escape routes". But it is his choice.
      But GDP doesn’t owe Snowden exactly ... but just the opposite. It is Snowden who should be grateful to Russia and the GDP personally that he is still alive and well in the Sheremetyevo transit zone, and he is given time (and apparently helps through diplomatic lines) to solve his problems. And he could already be in the CIA dungeons, where he, in tears, snot and shit, would ask the CIA for the executioners of the executioners.
      Of course, from the bottom of my heart, I wish Snowden to find a country that will shelter him and will not give Washington to violence. But to blame the GDP, the fact that he has not yet granted Snowden watered. refuge is not right ...
      All this, of course, is my IMHO.
  2. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 1 July 2013 10: 29 New
    20
    Vladimir Vdadimirovich will make the right decision, there’s no reason to doubt it, in order to once again wipe his nose striped lately ....
    1. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 1 July 2013 10: 40 New
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      The fact that Ecuador is not possible to compete with the United States is clear. For the sake of one "patriot" to bring down the economy of the state and drive the people into poverty, not an equal exchange.
      Vladimir Vladimirovich holds Jack Pot. Not all of Russia is trying to get extradition of crooks. Let in this skin jump in the states. And bend them below. The arrogance of the "owners" of the planet Earth to bring down. Good luck to GDP and Russia.
      1. Canep
        Canep 1 July 2013 10: 59 New
        +9
        A very attractive option for everyone would be to hide Snowden from the Old Man in his forests and swamps, but something he is keeping quiet. In Venezuela, the government can change in the next election and then Snowden will fly home to meet with an electric chair.
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 1 July 2013 11: 11 New
          10
          Quote: Canep
          A very attractive option for everyone will be to hide Snowden from the Old Man

          how much west Lukashenko hated .. I think under the patronage of the Russian Federation Belarus could provide political .. like the Russian Federation didn’t “offend” the Americans either (formally) and seems to have all the claims to the Belarusian Foreign Ministry and at the same time everyone understands what’s behind it It costs the Russian Federation and the Old Man will receive his dividends .. as an unbending fighter with Western lies.
          1. Canep
            Canep 1 July 2013 11: 32 New
            +1
            By the way, can the silence of the Old Man be connected with the fact that work is already underway in this direction? Usually, at the preliminary stage, such matters are kept quiet.
          2. matross
            matross 1 July 2013 15: 39 New
            +3
            Quote: Scoun
            I think under the patronage of the Russian Federation Belarus could provide political ..

            Believe me, this is impossible. For dad, this would mean recognizing himself as a vassal of Moscow in public. He will never agree to this, it’s an undermining of his own authority.
            If only for free gas forever! laughing
            Quote: Scoun
            Old Man will receive his dividends .. as an unbending fighter with Western lies.

            These "dividends" he already has full pockets!
            Lukashenko, despite the rustic image, is a pragmatist. And not a simpleton at all!
            1. NEMO
              NEMO 1 July 2013 18: 03 New
              +2
              Quote: matRoss
              LukashenkoDespite the rustic image, the pragmatist. And not a simpleton at all!

              I absolutely agree with you, for those who regularly monitor the development of events everything is obvious, Lukashenko sometimes acts according to his plan, no matter what:
        2. bootlegger
          bootlegger 1 July 2013 18: 02 New
          +2
          Yes, he was already hidden in a transit zone. He can now be virtually there for years. Putin said that Snowden did not cross the border and wipe it off.
          In general, I liked this way of dealing with American idiocy.
          Finally, they found an inexpensive and asymmetric method.
          Formally, Snowden is in the transit zone and does not care where he is physically.
          And to prove something is fussing, these are US problems.
        3. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 1 July 2013 18: 36 New
          +2
          Quote: Canep
          A very attractive option for everyone would be to hide Snowden from the Old Man in his forests and swamps, but something he is keeping quiet. In Venezuela, the government can change in the next election and then Snowden will fly home to meet with an electric chair.

          You imagined a lot about the Old Man. First of all, is this a very thoughtful and pragmatic politician, to hell with him extra hemorrhoids? He still recognizes Abkhazia and Ossetia ... ,, And what will it be for me? Will you give a lot of money? "
      2. My address
        My address 1 July 2013 11: 18 New
        +1
        But Correa had previously made an excellent move - he refused preferences in trade with the States and promised them financial assistance in the amount of preferences. And these realized that screaming at a small state, they went out completely in brown after the awesome diarrhea. Immediately slowed down the tone. And now for sure - pull them for this and for that.
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 1 July 2013 11: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Vladimir Vdadimirovich will make the right decision, there’s no reason to doubt

      And what will be this decision? There are basically two options - either issuing or not issuing.
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 1 July 2013 12: 48 New
        +5
        Quote: Karabin
        There are basically two options - either issuing or not issuing.

        actually option one no extradition... GDP in Helsinki already said in the forehead .. that we and the USA do not have such an agreement on extradition .... just do not ..... the word is not a sparrow ... but he already said that.
        1. fero
          fero 1 July 2013 15: 26 New
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          Scoun You never know what Putin said laughing he has said and promised a lot in recent years. But it is one thing to “declare” for the people, for internal consumption, so to speak, and quite another for external, geopolitics it is. The fact that they do not jerk at the top, but think without fuss is already good. Maybe they’ll come up with a thread.
          People "noodles" on the ears can be interfered for a long time and without any special image losses, it still remains at the helm. But on the world stage for the "bazaar" will have to answer laughing
          So I'm also inclined to the fact that most likely they will not give out. In an extreme case, they will exchange a thread for someone, but legally this is chaos. wassat
      2. piotr534
        piotr534 1 July 2013 16: 42 New
        +3
        And what will be this decision? There are basically two options - either issuing or not issuing.
        There is only one option, Russia cannot give out someone who is not formally located on its territory, i.e. in the transit zone. In the event that Snowden asks for political asylum in Russia, he has every chance to get it. Since in all civilized countries there is such a law on the non-refoulement of refugees, if he faces the death penalty or threat to life in his homeland and whether he is a criminal or not . Thus, Russia can wipe the amers nose, referring to international norms of democracy! laughing
  3. Refund_SSSR
    Refund_SSSR 1 July 2013 10: 37 New
    +4
    "International criminals"
    prasstsy sto? laughing I don’t understand American idiocy, explain what Snowden did to become international ...
    1. 46bob46
      46bob46 1 July 2013 10: 40 New
      +2
      said then everyone knew, but to the whole world.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 1 July 2013 10: 51 New
        +5
        Quote: 46bob46
        he said then everyone knew

        He did not just say, he also proved.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 1 July 2013 10: 51 New
      +9
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      , explain what Snowden has done to become international ...

      He revealed the US spy network against the whole world, because he is international laughing
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 1 July 2013 11: 00 New
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        He revealed the US spy network against the whole world, because he is international


        US intelligence agencies for 10 years, from 2001 to 2011, collected data on e-mail correspondence by both American citizens and foreigners who were in the United States.

        In general, nothing, we classmates for this and were created wink
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 1 July 2013 11: 07 New
          +4
          Quote: Vadivak

          US intelligence agencies for 10 years, from 2001 to 2011, collected data on e-mail correspondence by both American citizens and foreigners who were in the United States.

          This is only the surface part of the iceberg, as the US now says, listened to almost all officials in the EU from clerks to presidents. All bugged wassat
          And Germany was called a third-rate "ally" or partner
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 1 July 2013 13: 02 New
          +2
          Quote: Vadivak
          In general, nothing, we have classmates for this and were created

          I agree!
          But everyone forgets that he is the carrier of more serious information and with a stretch of it can be considered a dissident until he gave out the rest of the information!
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 1 July 2013 13: 04 New
            0
            But where will he go? He will lay out everything he knows --- with a file he’ll split into teeth!
    3. shinobi
      shinobi 1 July 2013 11: 00 New
      0
      Oh, what are you right, this is the favorite Yankees game. Declare an international criminal and begin to play detective robbers, thereby masking the true causes and goals. yes
    4. Manager
      Manager 1 July 2013 11: 10 New
      -4
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      prasstsy sto? I don’t understand American idiocy, explain what Snowden did to become international ...


      I agree! He is not an international criminal but a traitor to his homeland. And he violated the law only in the USA.
      But no matter how many centuries there is already an unspoken concept about traitors. They are not loved anywhere. Pulled out Old and consumption.
      1. the polar
        the polar 1 July 2013 14: 04 New
        +7
        Quote: Manager
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        prasstsy sto? I don’t understand American idiocy, explain what Snowden did to become international ...


        I agree! He is not an international criminal but a traitor to his homeland. And he violated the law only in the USA.
        But no matter how many centuries there is already an unspoken concept about traitors. They are not loved anywhere. Pulled out Old and consumption.

        If Snowden did not begin to disclose his information, but quietly conveyed it to representatives of foreign states, then he could definitely be qualified as a traitor.
        But his information convicts US authorities of a deliberate and malicious violation of their own constitution, as well as a number of international treaties concluded with the Allies. Exposing criminals, even if endowed with power, but maliciously violating the fundamental laws of their state, cannot qualify as a betrayal.
      2. DEfindER
        DEfindER 1 July 2013 17: 13 New
        +2
        Quote: Manager
        But no matter how many centuries there is already an unspoken concept about traitors. They are not loved anywhere. Pulled out Old and consumption.

        Well, not quite like that, ordinary people in the USA are almost entirely on his side, and he does not consider him a traitor, on the contrary a hero!
  4. 46bob46
    46bob46 1 July 2013 10: 38 New
    +2
    Ecuador bent down without Vaseline, let's see if it works out with Putin.
    1. Renat
      Renat 1 July 2013 12: 14 New
      +7
      Ecuador has 40% of its income from trade from the usa. He has nowhere to go, another question is why all this was started once backed up. GDP is also in a difficult situation now in the sense that earlier it has already denied this problem. Our president has a good chance to play with amers in their own style. In general, I personally am sure that Snowden has long been living at the airport and that he is doing well. On the one hand, of course, he is a traitor to his country, but on the other side, well, a person could not bear the entire permissiveness of the world gendarme. I consider him well done.
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 1 July 2013 12: 24 New
        +1
        Think in the right direction!
  5. BARKAS
    BARKAS 1 July 2013 10: 39 New
    +3
    It’s not quite right the word was blown away to him that he could have made the president of a bankrupt country without his own currency and with an economy completely dependent on the United States just once again reminded of himself, and the Americans probably promised him something.
  6. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 1 July 2013 10: 39 New
    0
    Putin somehow did not express himself explicitly on this subject: we do not have the right to extradite him, he is not on our territory, but on transit, he can fly wherever he wants ... So, is it now that Snowden will live on transit? Like in the movie Terminal? But will the US special services not pack it there and take it away from under the nose of Russia on an American flight, an American air company?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 1 July 2013 11: 01 New
      +4
      Quote: KG_patriot_last
      ? But will the US special services not pack it there and take it away from under the nose of Russia on an American flight

      Do you think that in Russia the CIA can run around, like at home, or do you think that Snowden is sitting alone and the FSB put him on it with the device?
      1. Kushadasov
        Kushadasov 1 July 2013 11: 42 New
        +1
        Yes Yes. That's right. Snowden has long been stunned by our counterintelligence agents in full. Surely a wagon and a small cart of useful information have already been received. Further, the ethical side is to give out or not to give out a derelict defector. We will see how events develop.
    2. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 1 July 2013 12: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: KG_patriot_last
      Well, so now Snowden will live in transit?

      GDP said what is needed. and where is Snowden who knows him now ...
      In my opinion, he was immediately taken from the airport to the right cottage, never mind, such a gesheft fell out of the sky ... Then GDP had a face like a cat after sour cream, when they asked Snowdon ......
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 1 July 2013 12: 27 New
        +1
        Do you seriously think that this gesheft fell from the sky? Personally, it seems to me that this is a serious and thoughtful work of our special services!
        1. ziqzaq
          ziqzaq 1 July 2013 13: 18 New
          +1
          Quote: Den 11
          Personally, it seems to me that this is a serious and thoughtful work of our special services!

          Maybe so, then he (gesheft) is even sweeter .....
    3. Scoun
      Scoun 1 July 2013 12: 54 New
      0
      Quote: KG_patriot_last
      Putin once vaguely spoke out on this subject:

      June 25, 2013 Putin previously confirmed that Snowden had actually arrived in Moscow. ... We don’t have such an agreement with the United States, "Putin said. at a press conference following talks with Finnish President Sauli Niiniste.

      and now how our incorruptible media swing
      Snowden cannot leave Moscow without a passport | RIA News
      Speaking in Finland on June 25, Vladimir Putin said that de jure Snowden did not enter the Russian Federation, he did not cross the border. ... The United States sent criminals to the Russian Federation without formal agreements, media write. 10: 28 30.06.2013.

      That is, like Snowden, a simple "criminal" who is looking for an interpol wassat
    4. piotr534
      piotr534 1 July 2013 17: 09 New
      0
      But will the US special services not pack it there and take it away from under the nose of Russia on an American flight, an American air company?
      Nonsense. The transit zone does not mean that it does not belong to anyone under the pirate flag. In this case, it is located on the territory of Russia and is monitored by the relevant departments for compliance with the laws of the Russian Federation that comply with international law.
  7. buzuke
    buzuke 1 July 2013 10: 39 New
    +3
    If Putin, too, caved in under pressure from American partners, then this will be the option exactly the same as that presented by Correa. If Putin shows real rigidity in this matter, he will be able to crush the United States along with all the Magnitsky’s acts and the arrests and trials of Bout. The situation, which the Russian president is simply obliged to take advantage of, to put the whole "democratic" riffrader in place, accusing him of persecuting people for political reasons. Whether the Russian president will allow himself such a thing will be clear in the near future.

    what a stupid statement of the question? not even dumb, but provocative. it is necessary to do so as it is profitable, and not to stroke someone's inflamed ego. Don Pedro apparently made a reliable offer, but because he is very hot and apparently not sufficiently experienced in politics, he put himself in a pose from which his reverse looks funny and solid. our leadership will be wiser, will not drive itself into a situation, but will slowly come down from the mountain and ... well, you are in the know
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 1 July 2013 10: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: buzuke
      you have to do it as profitable


      Chairman of the State Duma Committee on International Affairs Alexei Pushkov, commenting on the situation with the ex-CIA officer, said that the extradition of the fugitive to the American authorities is impossible.
      1. buzuke
        buzuke 1 July 2013 12: 00 New
        0
        probably Sloan citizenship earns a sweat
  8. shinobi
    shinobi 1 July 2013 10: 41 New
    +3
    I think it turns out that, Snowden, after a thorough check Sheremetyevo “did not fly” to Russia. There will be no VVP outskirts, he will say, look for yourself there. The whole world will be told that the journalists were mistaken and everything will be lost.
    1. fduch
      fduch 1 July 2013 10: 51 New
      +2
      I completely agree, they took him out into the hinterland, gave an apartment somewhere in Saransk and all the way, but we didn’t officially see anyone, we don’t know anything, let him anonymously put the rest into the network via the same WikiLix
    2. igor36
      igor36 1 July 2013 10: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: shinobi
      I think it turns out that, Snowden, after a thorough check Sheremetyevo “did not fly” to Russia. There will be no VVP outskirts, he will say, look for yourself there. The whole world will be told that the journalists were mistaken and everything will be lost.

      While the showdown is underway, most likely he already had plastic surgery in Moscow in exchange for information. So hello Eduard Ivanovich Ivanov (Petrov, Sidorov, underline the necessary.)
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 1 July 2013 11: 28 New
        +4
        One of the translation options for the Snowden surname is snow lair, snow lair

        I arrived there, where it was written to his family ...
  9. fenix57
    fenix57 1 July 2013 10: 44 New
    0
    Amers' "interesting" position is an "international criminal", which is why this is so. And they won’t explain anything at all, if only to listen to what our "probable", offended "friends" had come up with over the ocean ... Only to hang up labels and much ...
    GDP will make the right decision and show the necessary rigidity in resolving this issue. hi
  10. piterkras
    piterkras 1 July 2013 10: 47 New
    0
    To dad in Belarus, as the president of Kyrgyzstan Bakiev would be sent at one time.
    1. KG_patriot_last
      KG_patriot_last 1 July 2013 11: 22 New
      +3
      Well, Bakiev is a friend of the United States, the main carrier of drugs from Afghanistan, his son is a resident of England, co-owner of an English football club, his brother is a crime boss and a murderer ... And also a major con man who took money from / to withdraw from / from China, Russia and the USA / alteration of the NATO base and threw everyone!

      Bakiev did not run away from the United States, but from his people. And he had only one thing spinning from his tongue: today I, tomorrow you — the Kyrgyz are crazy, they are making parliamentary elections in the West ...
      Putin, Lukashenko and Nazarbayev blundered, they didn’t figure out who is who ... They were afraid to arrange a public court for the president, because the presidents themselves too ...

      In general, the value of Snowden and Bakiev did not lie nearby ...
  11. Dangerous
    Dangerous 1 July 2013 10: 47 New
    +1
    I do not think that in the countries of Latin America it will be safe for him, with their corruption and corruption. The safest option is Belarus
  12. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM 1 July 2013 10: 48 New
    +2
    Nothing will live in the Snowden Terminal, I wonder if he will do thorough repairs there like Tom Hanks? Put down the plaster and tile there? wassat
    1. bulvas
      bulvas 1 July 2013 11: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: SPIRITofFREEDOM
      and he will do thorough repairs there like Tom Hanks?


      he upgrades computer networks there under a contract with Sheremetyevo
  13. Gladius
    Gladius 1 July 2013 10: 49 New
    +1
    It’s just right to recoup for any acts of Magnitsky and other injections of the Americans. Political asylum is granted to Edward Snowden because of the fact that he is subjected to political repression and his democratic freedom and life in general is in direct danger. Let them bite and rub off ...
  14. krasin
    krasin 1 July 2013 10: 50 New
    +4
    The situation, which the Russian president is simply obliged to take advantage of, to put the whole "democratic" riffrader in place, accusing him of persecuting people for political reasons. Whether the Russian president will allow himself such a thing will be clear in the near future.

    It’s a sin not to take advantage of such a case. Give them a return! Not all cats have a Shrovetide.
    1. shinobi
      shinobi 1 July 2013 11: 04 New
      0
      Nah, I think they’ll be trickier and more obvious. They say they sign an international treaty on mutual extradition or from a dead donkey to your ears.
  15. Tom230
    Tom230 1 July 2013 11: 05 New
    +3
    I think Putin will not give up Snowden, this is such a chance to once again bend the Americans. I think Putin has already entered a courage! Further it will be more fun and more fun.
  16. Zhenya-1
    Zhenya-1 1 July 2013 11: 08 New
    +1
    And I was hoping so much for him ... But we will believe that Russia will not betray Snowden!
  17. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 1 July 2013 11: 12 New
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    Quote: Tom230
    I think Putin will not give up Snowden, this is such a chance to once again bend the Americans. I think Putin has already entered a courage! Further it will be more fun and more fun.

    Kind! In situations of this level, talk about courage should not have taken place, the Americans are bending everyone because of this person, but for obvious reasons, they still cannot! We need to weigh everything, evaluate the reality, remember our compatriots, kindly "warmed up" in the prisons there, and when all the cards are clear, then play the game. In big politics, courage is extremely dangerous.
    1. xan
      xan 1 July 2013 14: 33 New
      0
      Quote: Dwarfik
      We need to weigh everything, evaluate the reality, remember our compatriots, kindly "warmed up" in the prisons there, and when all the cards are clear, then play the game. In big politics, courage is extremely dangerous.

      Snowden can be issued only in one case - if he himself asks for it. Everything else is bleak, and bargaining is clearly not appropriate here - this applies not only to Russia. But GDP has another de foix profession. Why is Putin so old?
      And our specialists, I think, already know who is how many times and how to listen. Maybe only the technical nuances are interesting.
  18. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 1 July 2013 11: 13 New
    +3
    What nonsense, what kind of democracy can one talk about in the American hut? Yes, they lived according to gangster concepts from the very beginning, they live like that. They press the weak, lift up those who are stronger, maybe give a ride. Don’t expect the “godfathers” from Washington. THIS GUYS will launch a “hedgehog in your pants” - like a corn lover used to say. But seriously, it’s clear now whether we are a sovereign country or are still controlled by minke whales. So Dear GDP, make your choice, for whom are you !!!? In general, I believe in the determination and wisdom of our leader.
  19. itkul
    itkul 1 July 2013 11: 15 New
    +3
    It’s kind of stupid, I wouldn’t have made a fuss in the USA’s place and allowed Snowden to go to Ecuador, but had already stolen from there. It’s still harder to get it out of Moscow. , then the price of all his ostentatious confrontation with the West is worthless
  20. Karabin
    Karabin 1 July 2013 11: 20 New
    0
    In the British bookmaker William Hill, they began to accept bets - in which country will the former CIA officer Edward Snowden be in early 2014. Recall that Snowden was stuck in the transit zone of Sheremetyevo Airport. According to bookmakers, Cuba will be the favorite, and bets on it will be accepted with a coefficient of 15 \ 8. Next, with a coefficient of 3 \ 1, the United States goes, seeking the extradition of Snowden from the Russian authorities. Third and fourth place in the list took Ecuador and Venezuela.
    Bookmakers do not consider Russia.
  21. Karabin
    Karabin 1 July 2013 11: 24 New
    +2
    How Ecuadorian President "was blown away"

    Whose president is "blown away" next?
    1. Standard Oil
      Standard Oil 1 July 2013 11: 32 New
      +2
      Yes, there is one more. Let's see in practice how cool it is.
  22. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 1 July 2013 11: 32 New
    0
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Vladimir Vdadimirovich will make the right decision, there’s no reason to doubt it, in order to once again wipe his nose striped lately ....

    ... and preferably with his signature sense of humor!
  23. zenit666
    zenit666 1 July 2013 11: 40 New
    +1
    Yes, they will give it to the quiet and the matter is in a hat. And we will be presented with what kind of pepper Putin is. Gold is stored in Russia in America. There is still a lot of something
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 1 July 2013 11: 56 New
      +1
      No, they won’t give it away. Too serious a deal came out. There will be a thread somewhere in Uzhgorod by the sys-admin
    2. AK-47
      AK-47 1 July 2013 13: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: zenit666
      Gold is stored in Russia in America.

      Yah?
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  25. individual
    individual 1 July 2013 11: 59 New
    +7
    The only win-win option for the CIA whistleblower Edward Snowden is Russia, if the programmer has not yet flown from Sheremetyevo Airport to any other country, it is time for him to buy a hat with earflaps and find a good Russian woman, and that Edie will not give offense! hi
  26. 128mgb
    128mgb 1 July 2013 12: 01 New
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    The US must be proud of its "diplomatic" victory over a mighty adversary! Democrats in one word.
  27. krpmlws
    krpmlws 1 July 2013 12: 12 New
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    “Yes, they will give it to a quiet one” - I would not want to. They will give it away, and then they will say that we didn’t have it. But I hope they will openly declare that we have it, but we won’t give it away.
  28. Yarbay
    Yarbay 1 July 2013 12: 13 New
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    Unknown intruders gained access to the email of Ecuador’s Foreign Minister Ricardo Patinho with data regarding former CIA officer Edward Snowden, Patigno wrote on his Twitter page.

    "(Unknowns - IF) got into my mail. They opened a letter that I received from Julian Assange a few days ago. What else will they do?", - he commented on the recent appearance in the American edition of The Wall Street Journal of fragments of electronic correspondence of the authorities of Ecuador .

    According to The Wall Street Journal, in a letter from Assange addressed to Patinho, the founder of the Wikileaks portal apologizes for the inconvenience caused to Ecuador in connection with the Snowden case.

    The newspaper also had a letter from Ecuador’s ambassador to the United States, Natalie Suarez, to the Minister of Communications Fernando Alvarado, in which the ambassador expressed dissatisfaction with the role Assange plays in considering the likelihood of providing political asylum to Snowden in Ecuador.
    http://www.ng.ru/news/436176.html
  29. adg76
    adg76 1 July 2013 12: 55 New
    +1
    Only "great" states, and not "banana" republics, can conduct an independent policy. So who are we? "Great" Russia or one of the so-called "banana" democratic republics? Edward Snowden is a marker (or alternatively an exam) of maturity for Russia.
    1. ramzes1776
      ramzes1776 1 July 2013 13: 44 New
      +3
      Quote: adg76
      Only "great" states, and not "banana" republics, can conduct an independent policy. So who are we?

      Let's see, let's see. China answered the mattresses in a rather harsh form, after which the amers put their tongue in one place, and then switched to us.
    2. itkul
      itkul 1 July 2013 15: 13 New
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      Quote: adg76
      So who are we? "Great" Russia or one of the so-called "banana" democratic republics?


      Great countries don’t give their children over for adoption abroad, so your question is rhetorical. Today again news about a child sold abroad and used by pedophiles
      1. adg76
        adg76 1 July 2013 22: 59 New
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        If we talk about children, which is not the topic, then the problem is the inevitability of punishment for a crime. Or give an opportunity to adopt to foreigners (the person signing the adoption document should understand that in case of a child’s problems in a foreign country, this person will go the stage to the regions that are not so warm where they sunbathe. Without options for a conditional and all that) or not at all (this is my option. If among us there are those who are sold for money, and our own femida can’t do anything seriously, then you just need to ban it. Whatever it was).
  30. KononAV
    KononAV 1 July 2013 13: 22 New
    +1
    Everything is great, of course, but even I have a feeling that he doesn’t want to live in Russia. And he’s ready to argue for a long time not at Sheremetyevo.
  31. Black
    Black 1 July 2013 15: 15 New
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    Quote: INTER
    The Russian president owes nothing to anyone.

    Oh oh Oh well. We will see. Personally, I'm sure. that the Kremlin will not cut for it.
    And the question is somewhat wider. But does Snowden need it? I think he did not expect this. I thought of promoting, cut the dough, enter a white donkey into the history of revelations and scandals ... But it’s like that ... And in Russia he remains sour to the point of spasm in his cheekbones.
  32. silver_roman
    silver_roman 1 July 2013 16: 13 New
    +1
    I am sure that Putin is under some sort of pressure from some Americans there to one place. If he tuned the entire G8 for himself, then here he definitely will not rust. The question is also what the Americans can offer in return. In fact, this Snowden is no one for us and there is no sense in getting involved in it, but to bring it back would be logical and useful. Who knows what secrets he still knows. In addition, the article correctly observes what kind of animals the states hide in their country, who carried out terrorist attacks in our country, who have hundreds and thousands of lives in their hands. So you can even give Snowden a political asylum for one reason: to clean up amers. I'm FOR! )))
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 1 July 2013 16: 20 New
      +3
      Me too! And the Almighty sent us the GDP! Someone now understood this, someone will come later. You can minus me, this is my opinion and I will not give up on him!
      1. itkul
        itkul 1 July 2013 16: 53 New
        +1
        Quote: Den 11
        And the Most High sent us the GDP!


        And to whom it is to us. You have on the avatar a photo of a Wehrmacht soldier, you mean the Nazis

        http://vk.com/album-2062776_160731759

        1. Day 11
          Day 11 1 July 2013 17: 03 New
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          And this comrade is also a fascist? You need to figure out people, not declare all to be fascists! I won’t tell you my situation, ask people on the forum, I’ll only say that the Russian and German people are close to me! ban!
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 1 July 2013 18: 08 New
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            By the way, who will determine what rank Nikolai Ivanovich Unter is here? I did not know that he was listed in the Luftas
            1. matross
              matross 1 July 2013 18: 30 New
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              It’s easy to determine - lieutenant. And from you I would like to know all what your profile picture means. “Ask people for me” - this is somehow inappropriate here. Let's respect each other!
              1. Day 11
                Day 11 1 July 2013 18: 43 New
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                Well, I’ll tell you for the 15th thousandth time. As in any normal family, I had 2 grandfathers. One (on my father) Russian fought on the Volkhov Front from July 41 to December 42. He was commissued for a serious wound. Another (in mother ) he fought as part of the Hitler Youth and defended Berlin. He was captured. He worked in our north, built, repaired (the hands are "golden"). Did he meet a Russian girl and tell me more? Does life happen and writes such "pretzel". So, for these two people are close to me. And I do not count one of my grandfathers as a fascist (16-year-old jerk)!
                1. matross
                  matross 1 July 2013 18: 51 New
                  +1
                  Thank. Exhaustively. But Ava is still provocative. Would you like to shock the audience? Believe it ... Yes, and telling the story of the 15 for the thousandth time the family’s story will soon bother itself. respectfully hi
          2. itkul
            itkul 1 July 2013 18: 35 New
            +4
            Quote: Den 11
            And is this comrade a fascist too?


            Nevertheless, you didn’t put a photo of the hero-reconnaissance hero Kuznetsov on your avatar, but you put a photo of a real Hitler’s man, why should you understand that in our country, where every family has losses, this topic is not welcome
      2. silver_roman
        silver_roman 1 July 2013 18: 48 New
        +2
        I completely agree on the GDP score ... I always was for him, even when everything was shouting against him ... of course there are controversial issues, but we don’t know the whole truth and we don’t even know what he has to deal with and fight !
    2. Fetel
      Fetel 1 July 2013 16: 31 New
      +1
      I am sure Putin will not bend under the pinndoss.
  33. papss
    papss 1 July 2013 16: 16 New
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    In my opinion, the fact that Ecuador rescues the competent were in the know. Because Snowden so prudently did not fly out ... and when it became clear, then everyone hastened to make the secret manifest. Russia is now, as it were, in the position of a “chess fork”, there is a precedent, but no matter how you act ... you lose your piece. “Fit in” for Snowden - the person is not worth the candle ... quit - loses face ... Therefore, we are waiting for the connection of other players ... Venezuela is a good option ...
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 1 July 2013 16: 24 New
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      Option with the Old Man, too, should not be discarded!
  34. Fetel
    Fetel 1 July 2013 16: 30 New
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    And I was so hoping for him ...
  35. spirit
    spirit 1 July 2013 16: 59 New
    +1
    This prez ** just went public)) and then they called him and reminded him of a lope in his country laughing . And the GDP made it clear that it won’t betray but here, too, it is not needed as an extra stimulus. So I think it will soon be put on all 4 sides.
  36. RUSmen
    RUSmen 1 July 2013 18: 47 New
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    The main thing is not to fuss, because maybe this Edward Snowden is a mishandled Cossack
  37. Black
    Black 1 July 2013 18: 59 New
    +2
    Just Vladimir Vladimirovich said something like the following
    ... Snowden may be granted Russian asylum if he ceases to work against our American partners .....


    So that. Partners ....
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 1 July 2013 19: 16 New
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      So already "gutted." Still, a file in the teeth is a very effective way!
  38. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 1 July 2013 19: 24 New
    +1
    The American ruling elite is spiteful: how dare Russia not to betray Snowden? A long-time "friend" of Russia, Republican Senator from Arizona McCain said that Russia's refusal to extradite a former CIA officer - "A direct slap in the face of America." “We don’t need to return during the Cold War, but we must do business with Russia from a realistic perspective”. When Americans are beaten in the face they are outraged. Is it possible to endure such global surveillance of the world? It is impossible. Patience, gentlemen, get a slap in the face!
  39. itkul
    itkul 1 July 2013 20: 20 New
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    If Edward Snowden, a former CIA official, ceases his activities against the United States, he will be able to stay in Russia, Russian President Vladimir Putin said at a news conference in Moscow on Monday following a meeting of the Gas Exporting Countries Forum.

    At the same time, the Russian leader noted that he himself did not believe in the fulfillment of this condition, since Snowden considers himself a human rights activist, a human rights activist and a “new dissident,” and therefore does not intend to stop his (harmful to the US) work. In this regard, the ex-CIA employee must choose a different host country and move there, Putin said.


    So our leader was blown away, and such performances were played for the people, like he was against the West, and they don’t like him there. Well, now it’s very clear where his friends are
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 1 July 2013 21: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: itkul
      So our leader was blown away, and such performances were played for the people, like he was against the West, and they don’t like him there. Well, now it’s very clear where his friends are

      Do not snatch fragments that are "necessary" for you from the text of the news and do not publish them in order to discredit anyone and what. Further on the news for members of the forum;Answering a question about the possible extradition of Snowden to the United States, Putin emphasized that "Russia never, will not extradite anyone and will not extradite anyone. And no one has ever extradited us to us." "At best, we exchanged our foreign intelligence officers for those who were detained, arrested, and sentenced by a court in the Russian Federation."

      The President separately noted that the information declassified by Snowden did not say anything about trying to listen to Russian foreign missions. At the same time, Putin did not exclude that "this / audition / is possible, but this is a matter of professional assessment." He noted that the US intelligence also has its own departmental interests. The Russian leader cited the example of the “performer’s excess” as an example: “Send to listen - they peep and vice versa” MOSCOW, July 1. / ITAR-TASS /.
      They said A say B, you MINUS and well deserved.
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 1 July 2013 21: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: itkul
      So our leader was blown away, and such performances were played for the people, like he was against the West, and they don’t like him there. Well, now it’s very clear where his friends are

      And why not look at it differently.
      It may be more profitable to just fetch everything from Snowden that he knows, and then use it to his advantage.
      Politics, like the east, is a delicate matter. smile
      Snowden himself is valuable, as long as he has any information. And after that it will turn into another criticism of the USA and that’s it.
      No one noticed that the drain offends the interests of China, Europe and practically not a word about Russia. It’s strange like that.

    3. ramzes1776
      ramzes1776 1 July 2013 23: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: itkul
      So our leader was blown away, and such performances were played for the people, like he was against the West, and they don’t like him there. Well, now it’s very clear where his friends are

      It’s too early to draw any conclusions. Time will tell. The denouement is just around the corner.
    4. Scoun
      Scoun 2 July 2013 18: 43 New
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      Quote: itkul
      At the same time, the Russian leader noted that he himself did not believe in the fulfillment of this condition, since Snowden considers himself a human rights activist, a human rights activist and a “new dissident,” and therefore does not intend to stop his (harmful to the US) work.

      This phrase distorted me so ... that it spat on the floor with poison .. but I read the same phrase ... here ..
      in general, such an idea crept in ... so as not to spoil the "relationship" with the United States and further promote Snowden as a world human rights activist and more than once with pleasure poke the State Department into a bunch of their ram through Snowden .... in general, this interpretation of I appeared)))
  40. Black
    Black 1 July 2013 21: 59 New
    +3
    Quote: itkul
    So our leader was blown away

    our leader is not an inflatable girl, no one has inflated him.
    Snowden did not ask for Russia, he is not an employee of the first department, you won’t have to use it directly, but to be a peasant with a red rag in a narrow arena against BYKA — why 7 — for cheap show-offs? He is the leader of Russia. but not a proud Latin American republic.
    1. Sevastopol
      Sevastopol 2 July 2013 00: 13 New
      +1
      already asked.
  41. Sevastopol
    Sevastopol 2 July 2013 00: 03 New
    +3
    In an interview, Putin put 1 condition to Snowden (he had already requested the Russian political asylum):
    "we are ready to help him, but if he does not act to the detriment of our American partners. no matter how strange it was to hear from me." so, to some extent, Putin doesn’t really want to troll the states, and to some extent he was blown away.
    it can be understood, of course. but it turns out that Putin and Obama are at the same time on this issue. nobody benefits people from knowing the truth.

    personally for me a bummer. and not only for me. they are partners ... these "partners" did everything for the collapse of my Great Homeland of the USSR. thanks to these "partners", I live in a completely artificial country, sucked from my fingers, and in a city of Russian glory ...

    the hope is that I am short-sighted, and Putin knows something and thinks how to fix it. but she’s less and less, this hope ...
  42. Sashkessss
    Sashkessss 2 July 2013 08: 45 New
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    We sit with Snowden in my hut in Siberia, drink vodka, feed the bear and laugh with comments
    In general, I also think that he already went straight from the transit zone to the Kremlin, and that these are all excuses about the transit zone. You could still send into space - there he would also be outside the states.
  43. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 2 July 2013 10: 02 New
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    Quote: BARKAS
    It’s not quite right the word was blown away to him that he could have made the president of a bankrupt country without his own currency and with an economy completely dependent on the United States just once again reminded of himself, and the Americans probably promised him something.


    - ... spread among the residents of our house!
    - And if they don’t take it?
    - And if they don’t take it, turn off the gas!
  44. Siberian 5555
    Siberian 5555 2 July 2013 10: 04 New
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    our authorities did the right thing. im asanzha fig them in sekh. all pick up and kill all. let the day about the Americans
  45. Sobol
    Sobol 2 July 2013 10: 22 New
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    Correctly! Accept all and not give out anyone! You look and the population of Russia is larger than in China fellow Here it is - a solution to the problem of demography!
  46. ikir
    ikir 2 July 2013 11: 30 New
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    I think that the whole event is the work of the special services. Just like that, from dampness such things do not occur. By the way, it seems that everything was done in contact with the Chinese special services. In general, Americans are crushed by their own methods. What is good and right. We must make them make excuses and answer the same questions that they ask us. At the same time, let them now explain to their European allies in gratitude for what they are holding them under the hood, and whether the real allies are doing so.
    One interesting conclusion follows from this: Snowden will not be handed over. It was unlikely that so much effort was spent to return it like a forgotten suitcase. Again, who will turn over to us next time, if we hand over everyone as glass containers :)
  47. unkou
    unkou 2 July 2013 14: 47 New
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    You haven’t heard that the entire database of Internet users has been leaked to the network with open access! There is all the information from personal photos and videos to personal correspondence and copies of documents. Of course, you can delete your data if you do not want everyone to see them. Here is the link http://oua.be/1298