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BEFORE. Rogozin: "To be strong: guarantees of national security"

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The program text of Vladimir Putin, the implementation of which we are discussing today, was born during the election campaign. But in terms of its level and sound, it became absolutely not a pre-election document, but a strategic document. Kind historical a manifesto of a country that, after a period of bewilderment, returns to its value orientations and says goodbye to many illusions and stereotypes that possessed minds, starting at least from the end of the 80s.


BEFORE. Rogozin: "To be strong: guarantees of national security"


This spring, events occurred in the United States that in the foreseeable future could turn the current ideas about how to wage war. On May 1, successful tests of the X-51A hypersonic missile passed, which, after launching from the bomber, developed the speed in Mach 5,1 and over the course of 6 minutes of flight overcame the distance in 426 kilometers. May 14 from the atomic aircraft carrier "George Bush" for the first time flew into the air strike drone X-47B, which in the course of the test made several landings on the deck of the ship. The fact that even 20-30 years ago seemed to be tasks in the field of science fiction, today it is becoming a high-tech reality. Does it have a place for Russia, and are we able to respond to the challenges of our time?

Despite the fact that the era of the Cold War is a thing of the past, it is criminal to underestimate the military threats to Russia's security. Recall how long the liberal "good uncles" have convinced us that, thanks to the expansion of the West to the east, there is a world without borders, in which national sovereignty becomes an outdated concept. And it turned out to be an ordinary lie.

In fact, there is no dying off of sovereignty, but a narrowing of the circle of players who are capable of possessing it. At one time, President Putin said that sovereignty in the modern world is an exclusive thing. Indeed, there is a certain threshold of real sovereignty related to the country's capabilities in the economic, scientific, technical, military, and cultural spheres, a threshold that only a relatively small part of states in the modern world can take. But if some states have the opportunity to “save” on sovereignty, existing under someone’s “strategic umbrella”, then Russia simply does not have such an opportunity. The geographical position, the amount of controlled resources, and finally, the historical experience of our country itself is such that it must be independent and strong, or it will not exist at all. This thought is very succinctly expressed in the article: “weakness is a provocation”, “we should not introduce anyone with our weakness into temptation”.


It is obvious that in the 21st century, when access to natural resources is reduced, there will be a sharp increase in competition in the world. This is already happening before our eyes. Western civilization does not intend to abandon the high level of consumption, which means that it will build up tools to draw these resources from other countries. As history shows, the most effective of them are advanced military technologies, and developments that have previously been assigned a secondary role are increasingly coming to the fore. This, for example, concerns cyber weapons. If earlier all military developments in this area concerned only the security of computer systems and communications, now information technologies are considered as weapon first strike.

In the event of a conflict with any state, a possible first attack is made through information networks, during which critical infrastructure facilities of the state are destroyed, the system of political and military control is disrupted, machines with electromotive devices based on imported electronic components are turned off. When the victim state of aggression becomes almost paralyzed, it is struck with classical military means. Tellingly, Moscow has repeatedly raised the issue of deeper joint participation in cybersecurity projects within the framework of the RF-NATO Council, but the Atlantic partners each time refused us.

Of course, Russia does not intend to participate in the new military technology race as an outside observer. “Responding to the threats and challenges of today only means condemning ourselves to the eternal role of lagging behind. We must by all means ensure technical, technological, and organizational superiority over any potential adversary,” said Russian President Vladimir Putin in his article “To Be Strong: National Warranties security for Russia. "

It is no coincidence that one of the first decrees of Vladimir Putin during his third presidential term was the basic Decree No. 603 from 7 in May 2012 of the year “On the implementation of plans for the construction and development of the Armed Forces and the modernization of the military-industrial complex”. The government has developed a detailed program for the implementation of this decree, and the work is proceeding in accordance with the established deadlines. So, in 2012, almost 500 defense companies were covered by technical re-equipment, of which new capacities were already put into operation at 35. The mechanisms of public-private partnership are being improved, within the framework of this work a concept has been developed for the use of PPP mechanisms in the military-industrial complex. The concept will simplify the current procedure for creating new military production facilities, as well as attract private investment in the defense industry. It is also planned to expand the information exchange of private investors and defense organizations, including through the GAS GOZ system that we are implementing.

As for the defense industry complex, over the past year the growth rates in a number of industries working for the defense industry were significantly higher than the average for the economy. An increase in production volumes in 2012 compared to 2011 is observed in radio-electronic (by 11,7%), rocket and space (by 10,8%), aviation industry (10,6%), the production of ammunition and special chemicals (7,4%), conventional weapons (5,4%). Statistics show that the lion's share of this growth was ensured precisely due to the supply of military products to the domestic market and (to a lesser extent) to export. These data make the thesis of Vladimir Putin's article on the defense industry complex as a locomotive of economic growth quite illustrative.
Much has been done by us to solve one of the most painful problems of the defense complex - the shortage of qualified personnel. In 2012, the list of 120 of the most sought-after professions in the industry was formed, and it will become the basis for the formation of modern professional and educational standards.

The process of integration of defense enterprises in the framework of large modern corporations and concerns continues. Yesterday’s decree of V.Putin essentially started the process of consolidation of the rocket and space industry.
A lot has been done, and this inspires some optimism regarding the prospects for the implementation of an unprecedented state-of-the-art weapons program, according to which, by 2020, the share of modern weapons should increase to 70 percent. But have we all taken into account, are we ready and ready for all the challenges?
In order to understand what forces and means of armed struggle are necessary for Russia, it is necessary to soberly assess the nature of military threats to the country's security, albeit hypothetical ones. What war can we expect in the future? Who is he - this notorious "likely opponent"?

Scenario one: contactless war with an adversary at a higher technological level

We will be realistic - in the near future, Russia will hardly succeed in catching up and overtaking the leading powers in terms of the technological level of development. The Russian economy is 10 less than the US one. Yes, and the scientific potential of the country was actually destroyed after the collapse of the USSR. Today, the lag in a number of critical basic technologies from the leading countries of the West is decades. What can we oppose to such a high-tech adversary? The answer seems obvious - the main guarantee of Russia's security is the forces of strategic nuclear deterrence. And Russia, according to the military doctrine, is ready to use nuclear weapons, including in repelling aggression with the use of conventional weapons. But is it enough in today's realities only a nuclear shield?

For more than 10 for years, the concept of a "lightning global strike" has been explored in the USA. It is she who plays the role of the most important component of the American military strategy. The concept provides for striking non-nuclear weapons on any part of the planet for 1 hours. In fact, for the first time in 50 years, American strategists had a vision of how to defeat another nuclear power with “little blood”, while avoiding unacceptable damage from the enemy’s response.

At the end of 2012, the Pentagon conducted a computer game, the results of which showed that as a result of striking a "large and highly developed country" with 3500-4000 units of precision weapons, its infrastructure would be almost completely destroyed during 6 hours, and the state would lose its ability to resist. Obviously, if such a blow is delivered to Russia, then the main objectives of the aggressor will be the forces of strategic nuclear deterrence. According to estimates in the United States, as a result of such a strike, 80-90% of our nuclear potential can be destroyed. At the same time losses among the civilian population will be minimal. Western experts believe that although Russia will still have the opportunity to strike back a nuclear attack on the aggressor, the military-political leadership of our country is unlikely to do this: after all, the remaining means, which the global missile defense will try to intercept, are already we will not be able to inflict unacceptable damage to the enemy, but in the event of a nuclear retaliatory strike we will suffer enormous losses. It should be added that in the unanimous opinion of Western experts, such an attack will be accompanied by a powerful information and propaganda effect on the population of the victim country.

What can we do to counter this threat if it is really directed against us? This should be an asymmetric response, using fundamentally new types of weapons. These weapons should not rely on existing telecommunications systems that can be disabled in minutes. It should be an autonomous, self-sufficient weapon that can independently solve its tasks.

Scenario two: contact war with an adversary that is on a technological level equal to us

Since the collapse of the USSR, the strength of the Armed Forces has decreased by more than 4 times. Thousands of kilometers of the border remained uncovered. The country's leadership today is counting on our rapid reaction forces, i.e. on the operational potential of the airborne forces and the mobility of troops. As a result, we were able to quickly form sufficiently powerful army groups of troops deployed from other regions of the country in a threatened direction. But will they be able to effectively resist the enemy, who had previously created a numerical superiority in the conflict zone?
Today, there are alternative classical military theory views on how to counter this threat. A war with such an aggressor must be waged non-contact with them - with a weapon that has a large radius of action, and this weapon must not only strike at enemy personnel and equipment, but also hamper its logistic support.

Scenario Three: Local Wars

The largest local conflict of our time - the war in Afghanistan, has become a cold shower for the Soviet military leadership. The war, which according to the original plans was supposed to end in a few months, stretched over a decade. One of the main reasons for the escalation of the conflict and its escalation into a grueling guerrilla war was the fact that the army’s weapons did not have weapons capable of causing a targeted, targeted effect on the enemy. The army, prepared for large-scale combat operations, was forced to work, as they say, "by area" - using multiple launch rocket systems, heavy artillery, long-range aviation. We remember cases when, on the basis of erroneous intelligence, the command decided to destroy entire villages. All this led to high losses among the civilian population and the rapid growth of supporters of the armed opposition. In general, by the middle of the 80s, a paradoxical situation developed in Afghanistan: the most effective forces were operating against the Mujahideen, using essentially the same tactics and armament as their adversary. There was only one difference - behind our troops was a huge country with a powerful military-industrial complex and military science, which, as it turned out, could not foresee and adequately respond to the Afghan challenge. We encountered similar problems later in the North Caucasus.
In the course of reforming the army, the experience of its participation in local conflicts was, of course, taken into account, both in organizational and technical terms. For example, light armored vehicles with enhanced mine protection, unmanned vehicles, and so on began to enter service. But the problem of the disproportionality of the applied force to the level of the tasks facing the army in the course of local conflicts is still not resolved. The reality is that today, like 30 years ago, we have only those tools that, if applied, bring the conflict into a more difficult phase. We also need a weapon that will allow a soldier to be removed from a direct clash; weapons capable of hitting only those targets that really pose a danger to us.

Scenario Four: Countering Terrorism, including State

The tasks of combating terrorism, if they are not included in the spectrum of purely military tasks, are no less relevant - after all, the level of terrorist threat today is comparable to the military one. Terror does not remain aloof from progress. In the hands of criminals are all new tools, which leads to the emergence of new global threats. Terrorists are adopting information technology. The goals of cyber attacks can be both gaining access to state and personal secrets, as well as direct attacks to destroy the administrative elite and infrastructure of states.
At the same time, the fight against terrorism in Russia today basically comes down to operational-search measures, which are not always coordinated by the special services and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Information technologies are used only as auxiliary mechanisms. Meanwhile, in a number of states, highly intelligent information systems are being developed that can bring the effectiveness of countering terrorism to a qualitatively new level. In such systems, information flows from border crossings, transport, and outdoor video surveillance cameras will be integrated. However, the developers of such total control systems face serious problems - the current level of computer technology does not yet allow processing such powerful information flows. The task can be solved by creating an extraordinary information system, the outlines of which are already being worked out in Russia.

Scenario Five: Confrontation in the Arctic

The active development of the Arctic shelf will inevitably lead to a conflict of interest between the countries making their claims to its resources. It is possible that the confrontation will go beyond the diplomatic. It is likely that Russian oil and gas production facilities may become targets for sabotage by competing countries. It should be understood that the perpetrators of such sabotage may not be clearly associated with the client countries. To strike back and determine the scale of the use of force, it is necessary not only to fix the executors, but also to identify their customers. This requires modern monitoring tools that can work effectively in air and water environments. In the meantime, in full, we do not have such means.

The revitalization of the Northern Sea Route will also not add calm to the Arctic. NATO has long discussed plans to strengthen the naval grouping in the Arctic under the pretext of ensuring the protection of commercial shipping.

Analysis of the above threats pushes disappointing conclusions. Neither the classical military theory, nor the modern practice of the armed forces have clear and unequivocal answers on their countering. In addition, the means, methods and forms of armed struggle, which the modern army is focused on, are not universal for all types of threats. It is obvious that in the near future to solve this and similar non-trivial tasks we need to make a technological breakthrough, which in its scale can be comparable with a nuclear project or with the Soviet space program.

It is obvious that the search for solutions for such non-trivial tasks should be carried out in close cooperation of the military, designers, and technologists. Organizationally, it should involve the Ministry of Defense, research institutions of law enforcement agencies, the Academy of Sciences. The concentration of scientific potential is the only way to eliminate Russia's lag in the field of defense technologies.

The functions of coordination, development and production of the newest types of weapons by defense enterprises should be concentrated in their hands by the Military-Industrial Commission (MIC) under the Government of the Russian Federation. The situation when the defense industrial complex worked without such systemic coordination on the part of the Military Industrial Commission, cannot be called anything but “disorder and vacillation”. Numerous institutions tried to self-realize without taking into account what the country and its Armed Forces really need. A clear contractual policy in the field of prospective studies and conceptual forecasting issues could not be formed by the main customer of the defense industry, the Ministry of Defense, which was given these functions after the collapse of the USSR. In fact, since the beginning of the 90-s, the leaders of the branches of the Armed Forces, who naturally promoted the profile of their own design bureaus, began to make decisions on the creation of new weapons. As a result, we have received many types, small families and duplication of weapons systems.

In the Soviet Union, there was a clear system of interaction between the Ministry of Defense and the defense-industrial complex in the development of new weapon systems based on targeted program planning. This system made it possible to solve not only the tasks of today, but also to look into the future on the basis of forecasts of the development of weapons and military equipment of a potential enemy. The main task of the Military-Industrial Commission is to reanimate this system, naturally, taking into account the realities of today.

Another priority of the military industrial complex today is the creation of an effective system of interaction between the military and civilian sectors of the economy in the interests of the defense complex. It is clear that the development of the DIC only at the expense of budget funds is impossible. New breakthrough dual-use technologies, which, I hope, we will see in the coming years, can attract investment in the industry.

The work of the Military Industrial Commission is critically important for our country. The result of it should be not only the timely and stable supply to the troops of everything necessary for their rearmament, but also the new industrialization of Russia.
We assign a special role in the creation and promotion of advanced developments to the recently established Fund for Promising Research, which should form a modern platform for critically needed new technologies and solutions. In the near future, the Foundation will prepare a three-year prospective work plan. From the second half of 2013, he will begin substantive work on specific projects. Of course, many of them can be perceived by the public and the scientific community as too bold. We are aware that some of the projects of the Foundation will be located in a zone of high and extremely high risk, or will be focused on a very distant future, but, as Alexander the Great said, “nothing is impossible for someone who is trying to do.”

Supporting the spirit and letter of those ideas that Vladimir Putin set out in his election article, “To Be Strong: National Security Guarantees for Russia”, we understand that we are waiting for the titanic work to restore the intellectual and physical power of our Motherland. And we are ready for such work.
http://www.rg.ru/2013/06/28/doklad.html

PS And please do not read the reports on this report in Forbes and in inv.
Because all that they saw in this report is that Russia is lagging behind the leading countries of the world in a number of technologies, which it carried in the headlines.
And that the United States will easily win Russia in a nuclear war.
Originator:
http://politikus.ru/events/5115-tekst-vystupleniya-do-rogozina-na-konferencii-byt-silnymi-garantii-nacionalnoy-bezopasnosti.html
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  1. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 1 July 2013 07: 13 New
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    That the scenario of a sudden disarming strike exists I knew. I didn’t know only what parameters they were laying in it now. Turns out the Yankees are hoping to destroy 80-90% of our retaliation potential. And thereby break the will of the people to resist.
    BAD THEY KNOW RUSSIAN! I and the dead will clutch you in the throat TWO-YANKED!
    So GDP is doing the right thing, which is creating rapidly new ICBMs and EKO funds at an accelerated pace.
    And their plans will not happen!
    1. Tatb
      Tatb 1 July 2013 10: 32 New
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      Speak the truth! For the most part they can, they can, and they will do it if the current dashing year comes! Born in the USSR!!! angry And not modern PID youth!
      1. Imigrantt
        Imigrantt 1 July 2013 11: 25 New
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        hi Not worth it about youth! It resembles a social model; glued a tag at school - slobber and freethinker, then for life! Not worth it! A lot of young people, I think the majority, are patriots of Russia, and patriotism is growing stronger every year! I know firsthand that my son is 19 years old and is finishing college. He announced that he enters the Yeisk Higher Military Flight, wants to become a fighter pilot. I am Russian and I want to defend my homeland - he said, and we (parents) were bewitched! I am very happy! And I think he’s not the only one, there will be more and more such young people every year, because they are not only promoting us in electronics. They have Slavic genes, the genes of the winners! And do not forget it! The troubled time is leaving, I hope irrevocably, and our youth is far from stupid! Of course, the family is not without a freak, but these are isolated cases! Just young people need more trust and be on equal footing, and they will not make you wait long !!! And we will help them with this !!! Am I wrong?!
        1. Karabu
          Karabu 1 July 2013 19: 14 New
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          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          I and the dead will clutch you in the throat of TWO-YANKED!

          whoever screams the most and tears his shirt on himself, usually the first one merges with his tail

          in modern Russia, even the insignificant Chechnya has broken off its horns and overlaid with tribute. what a big war it is when the traitors in the Kremlin are black, the streets are black, and the Russian people huddled in huts and quietly die out. Yes, for the most part, people do not care who will sit there in Moscow, Amers, Germans or Jews as they are now
      2. itkul
        itkul 1 July 2013 12: 44 New
        +4
        Quote: TATb
        if Tokai comes dashing Godina! Born in the USSR!!! angry And not modern pido youth


        Where were you born yourself? If you were in the USSR, you would know that young people are written with a soft sign
      3. moldavan
        moldavan 1 July 2013 15: 56 New
        +4
        the smallest of them my son is a bronze medalist of RUSSIA (11 years old) in combat sambo. my contribution to the strengthening of RUSSIA. There is another fighter in turn. My God, give me and my wife another 2-3 heroes or beauties
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        3. moldavan
          moldavan 1 July 2013 16: 09 New
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          1. strannik595
            strannik595 1 July 2013 21: 27 New
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            Pentagon held a computer game......... let the uncles continue to play and console themselves, the monitor will endure everything ...... when Russian microwaves arrive in California and other provinces, when mass barbecue roasting begins, there will be no time for computer games
  2. Refund_SSSR
    Refund_SSSR 1 July 2013 07: 14 New
    +9
    And that the United States will easily win Russia in a nuclear war.
    The USA cannot defeat even Afghanistan.
    And the Yankers forgot that the blitzkrieg tactics with Russia do not really work.
    It is necessary not to crush the main armed forces, but to break the resistance of the country, and this is not at all the same thing.
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 1 July 2013 08: 24 New
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      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      The USA cannot defeat even Afghanistan.
      Afghanistan and we did not win, and Britain failed. There is no developed infrastructure in Afghanistan, and the States are not planning a global war in it, they will trade drugs. There is no need to try on hats for weapons again, the German "Blitzkrieg" cost dearly to the Soviet Union, now there will be no time or territory for retreat. If Russia has a powerful air defense system, a strong air force (including VTOL aircraft, underground hangars), and a guaranteed retaliatory strike against the United States, only then can the tail of American ambitions for a new plan of a lightning victorious war be pinned down.
      1. Refund_SSSR
        Refund_SSSR 1 July 2013 08: 45 New
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        To deliver a massive NOT nuclear strike throughout Russia, it (Russia) will need to be surrounded around the entire perimeter by means of attack, do you seriously think that such an environment can pass unnoticed?
        And in case of alarm, strategists can be lifted into the air and dissolve under the SSBN water, even if they are not many, but to cause damage that will throw America 40-50 years back is easy, and the same Chinese will surely take advantage of this damage and will be the end for America.

        Here is the answer. Fearfully? I would put Amer in his pants only from one such hypothetical possibility.

        Let’s not talk about trying on hats and cheating when the enemy is bluffing to put it mildly.
        The ability to think soberly and rationally is what should distinguish us from our enemies, and not get involved in an arms race.
        Means of strategic nuclear forces and other weapons should be exactly as much as necessary and no more and no less, and in this regard, I would like to hope that the rearmament of the army will be successful.

        PS Further, in order to control the country, it is necessary to punish the population or carry out a full-scale ethnic cleansing, and it was not for nothing that I cited Afghanistan as an example. Or will America just for the sake of interest endure "wild rashka" and leave again? Naturally, Russia will be occupied in any scenario. And the occupation is impossible without suppressing the aggression of the local population and partisan movements.
        1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
          GELEZNII_KAPUT 1 July 2013 09: 17 New
          +1
          All previous wars will seem to Amers as a walk, just like Hitler’s capture of Europe, their army will simply dissolve in Russian territory! hi
          1. Refund_SSSR
            Refund_SSSR 1 July 2013 09: 52 New
            +2
            Amer is not a fascist, he will not fight for the idea.
            And how many soldiers do you need to ensure occupation and establish the use of resources of the occupied territories?
            And this is in the face of a fierce offensive by General Frost in the winter and partisan movement in the endless forests at all times of the year?
            This is not an easy walk for you in Afghanistan ... This is Our Russia lol
            And if we take into account the powerful geopolitical crisis and the aggravation of relations, again with the same China, which, according to one scenario, can pretend to cut Russia and, in this regard, conflict with the Amers, and, in another, pretend to world domination, while America is weakening in the grueling occupation of Russia.
            And if you recall the same likelihood of a nuclear submissive bite of America, which also will not pass without a trace ... You can safely and accurately state.
            Russia is that piece that America will choke on, even if it can by some miracle escape its own destruction.
            And precisely for this reason, all these horror stories about attack options are nothing more than horror stories.
            War economically, as practice has shown, is no less effective than direct capture.
            For 25 years, we fell under colonial slavery to America after their victory in the Cold War ...
            So why take the risk and apply tomahawks?
            1. Trapperxnumx
              Trapperxnumx 1 July 2013 10: 14 New
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              Quote: We refund_SSSR
              Amer is not a fascist, he will not fight for the idea.
              And how many soldiers do you need to ensure occupation and establish the use of resources of the occupied territories?
              And this is in the face of a fierce offensive by General Frost in the winter and partisan movement in the endless forests at all times of the year?
              This is not an easy walk for you in Afghanistan ... This is Our Russia lol
              And if we take into account the powerful geopolitical crisis and the aggravation of relations, again with the same China, which, according to one scenario, can pretend to cut Russia and, in this regard, conflict with the Amers, and, in another, pretend to world domination, while America is weakening in the grueling occupation of Russia.
              And if you recall the same likelihood of a nuclear submissive bite of America, which also will not pass without a trace ... You can safely and accurately state.
              Russia is that piece that America will choke on, even if it can by some miracle escape its own destruction.
              And precisely for this reason, all these horror stories about attack options are nothing more than horror stories.
              War economically, as practice has shown, is no less effective than direct capture.
              For 25 years, we fell under colonial slavery to America after their victory in the Cold War ...
              So why take the risk and apply tomahawks?

              Sorry. I do not agree with you. And that's why.
              Have you seen the map of Europe? Where is Germany and where is the USSR? One glance at this map should have been enough for Hitler to abandon the idea of ​​an attack on the USSR. But he attacked. Why? Because he firmly believed in his troops and in the fact that the Soviet people would rush to raise the commissars to the pitchfork. Proceeding from this logic, Stalin could also say "what kind of army should it be to occupy our country" and simply score for the defense. And for some reason he built metallurgical and chemical plants, power plants and "tractor" factories. As it turned out - not in vain. I would not be surprised if there is a strong feeling in the United States that the people of Russia hate Putin, have drunk themselves intoxicated, sank down and only longs for the Yankees to come to him. With the first blow, they expect to disable the entire main industry, so that people, at the sight of this, simply lose the remnants of the will to resist. It doesn't matter what you think. I also think they are wrong.
              And there is one more but. The US is beginning to devour itself. They just need some kind of sacrifice to last another 30-50 years. The death of the USSR was enough for them for 20 years. On the bones of Russia, they hope to hold out for some more time. Because if they do not start wars, they will definitely "gather". The choice, as we can see, is not great.
              1. Russ69
                Russ69 1 July 2013 12: 01 New
                +1
                Quote: Trapper7
                On the bones of Russia, they hope to hold out for some more time. Because if they do not start wars, they will definitely "gather". The choice, as we can see, is not great.

                America is not as strong as it seems. In order to cause irreparable damage to mattresses, it is not necessary to disable all their industrial and energy areas. Quite a few and the financial system will collapse. And for America with its puffy bucks, it will be stronger than the blow of several YABs.
          2. ziqzaq
            ziqzaq 1 July 2013 18: 25 New
            +1
            Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
            All previous wars will seem to Amers as a walk, just like Hitler’s capture of Europe, their army will simply dissolve in Russian territory!

            On Russian territory? May they not reach, Russia is not Libya, and not Iraq. The submarine "Losharik" plus autonomous, deep-sea missile systems ..... "Losharik" was probably created for this. They laid America's "Scythians" at a depth of 1000 meters and let them sit on the railroad station evenly and do not twitch ....
        2. Per se.
          Per se. 1 July 2013 10: 16 New
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          Quote: We refund_SSSR
          it (Russia) will need to be surrounded around the perimeter by means of attack, do you seriously think that such an environment can pass unnoticed?
          And, haven’t we already been surrounded around the entire perimeter, or do you think that for this it is necessary now to pull up millions of armies to the borders? Yankee missile defense systems are not just deployed, plus they will not forget about space, with unmanned shuttles and other novelties that allow us to neutralize our satellites and conduct laser or missile bombardment directly from space. As for our boats, each now has a squadron of the US surface and submarine fleet, not counting aviation and space tracking equipment. Ethnic cleansing is already underway, as well as brainwashing, including the interests of the United States are lobbied through our media, and our website is no exception. Naturally, for a war, they need guarantees of victory with acceptable damage, and for this, above all, they need to bring their own man to power, who could surrender the country worse than Gorbachev, not daring to use nuclear weapons in the name of humanism and civilization as a whole (especially when elite real estate over the hill, children take part in the same London, and all the money in foreign banks). What the Germans did in 1941, flowers, compared to what these ghouls can do, especially since there is no Soviet Union, but there are capitalist "values". We are still selling the latest weapons for other people's armies for money, and our own army and navy are waiting, despite the fact that we do not do everything in hundreds, as before, in dozens, by the piece ... I want to be an optimist here, but not everything is so simple and cool, as we would like. You can only hope and believe in the best, but you need to prepare for the worst, taking the threat seriously.
          1. Nitup
            Nitup 1 July 2013 10: 37 New
            +3
            Quote: Per se.
            But didn’t they surround us around the entire perimeter, or do you think that for this it is necessary now to pull millions of armies to the borders? Yankee missile defense systems do not just deploy

            Of course, all the more so, we do not know what kind of missiles there are at these sites: maybe not only anti-missiles, maybe earth-to-ground missiles. And in the Black Sea, their cruisers with unknown weapons in their missile containers spend a lot of time.
            Quote: Per se.
            Even now we are selling the latest weapons for foreign armies for grandmas, and we are waiting for our own army and navy, despite the fact that we are not doing everything in the hundreds, as before, in dozens, individually ...

            Yes, but arms export means making money, including for purchases for your own army.
          2. Refund_SSSR
            Refund_SSSR 1 July 2013 11: 52 New
            +1
            Sorry, of course, but as a child ... Honestly.
            Surrounded by stationary positions ?! And what is the time of approach to strategic objects? 1-5 hours ?! Yes, during this time, you can raise the strategists forty times and have time to dose out and plant and raise again forty times.
            What kind of baby talk? You smoke the globe of Russia for a start and then take a look where is the same Poland with missile defense, etc. stop
            Next, we look at the southern borders ... At the northern ... And what do we see? Surrounded? And what is the flight time?
            Hypersound do not make me laugh!
            Or maybe someone will ignore group multiple goals during this time? laughing
            Well, suppose the goals closest to the launch site will be destroyed, since group goals can be mistaken for a system malfunction, but after losing contact with these objects there will still be enough time to use the remaining forces, and this is almost a guaranteed end to America.

            And if everything was so banal simple, then why would the United States invade Iraq, Afghanistan, etc., if Russia could be covered with just one volley with impunity?
            Invade countries and tear themselves up from the lack of financing for these companies.
            Butting against Syria, and the Russians screaming that Syria is the last frontier? If Russia is already surrounded?

            So let's already, start thinking rationally, and not "all prospolymers"
            1. Refund_SSSR
              Refund_SSSR 1 July 2013 12: 12 New
              +1
              To cause unacceptable damage in one gulp of high-precision NOT nuclear weapons of medium and short range !! and at the same time talk about the total destruction of the defense ability of the state and, moreover, absolute impunity !!
              This does not fit in my head !! laughing Laughter!

              Why then design to build and maintain an ICBM? !!! WHAT FOR?!! If only 4500 short- and medium-range missiles are capable of territory of RUSSIA !!! to cover and with absolute impunity! laughing
              At the same time, the territory of Libya was ironed for months by NATO aviation. With Iraq the same situation!

              I’d better refrain from diagnoses so as not to offend or earn another violation on the site.
            2. Per se.
              Per se. 1 July 2013 14: 00 New
              +2
              Quote: We refund_SSSR
              And what is the time of approach to strategic objects? 1-5 hours ?!
              Dear Sergey, can you calculate how long it will take to hit from space. The war does not start suddenly, in our case, it should be preceded by the destabilization of the situation in Russia, a number of economic and ideological sabotage, many other factors that make up SUDDENESS, in any case, the war starts when it is convenient and beneficial to the aggressor. Therefore, the States and Afghanistan climbed, and before that in Iraq, the whole of North Africa is on fire, Syria, then Iran, should be next. Forgive me generously, but I'm not talking baby talk. On the threshold of qualitative changes in weapons, the latest technology in a new war. I wound up the globe to my fill, at one time, and I was not going to amuse anyone here, including you. What a laugh, if the ships from Aegis, can pinch themselves in the Black Sea, and shoot our ICBMs in the ocean, when launched from a boat. The Yankees do not need a global nuclear war, they will strive for the reduction of strategic missiles (we have many missiles that have been repeatedly extended). So, think rationally, but about "all prospolipolymers", this is not for me.
              1. Refund_SSSR
                Refund_SSSR 3 July 2013 07: 10 New
                0
                SOI ?! laughing yeah, let Gorbachev believe in these fairy tales ... They have already passed.
                For the rest - it’s impossible to destroy all the strategic forces of a state of the Russian scale, this is not a dwarf like Israel
      2. Trapperxnumx
        Trapperxnumx 1 July 2013 10: 03 New
        +1
        Per se.
        I support and join.
        Afghan for amers is a way, under the pretext of a "war on world terrorism," to fill Russia with drugs, destroying part of our youth, and at the same time keeping some of their troops not far from us (both China and Iran). Afghan is the central country of the region, so the "shap-off" should be left for another case.
  3. Tatarus
    Tatarus 1 July 2013 07: 18 New
    +7
    Fact. We are behind in some technologies.
    Fact. We excel in some technologies.
    Wish Reduce lag and increase lead.

    According to the scripts. The battle for the Arctic is very worrying. Russia has the largest shelf area. So the largest number of competitors. I wonder from whom is NATO going to protect merchant ships on the Northern Route? From polar bears? I think the West will finance the creation of Arctic pirates, and then the fleet will send to fight them. Somali won endure to keep the fleet closer to Iran. And then the Chukchi or Evenki will be put on boats? Anyway, they’ll come up with some kind of muck to justify their presence.
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 1 July 2013 07: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Tatarus
      I think the West will finance the creation of Arctic pirates, and then the fleet will send to fight them. Somali won endure to keep the fleet closer to Iran. And then the Chukchi or Evenki will be put on boats?

      That's for sure. If there were no Somali pirates, then they should have been invented.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 1 July 2013 07: 34 New
        +4
        Quote: Warrawar

        That's for sure. If there were no Somali pirates, then they should have been invented.

        Soon on TV they will show the launches of Topol and Yars and say ... Anti-terror missile launches were carried out in Russia. Terrorists have been created, but things and purposes must be called by their proper names, as in the article. There is a threat and it comes from one country - this is the United States.
        There are many scenarios, but the result is one warrior.
  4. My address
    My address 1 July 2013 07: 26 New
    +6
    An alternative to dames is Rogozin or Sechin. Stupid realists without a liberal whim. It certainly would not occur to reward the Spotted or donate the territory of the country.

    Well, I remembered it and felt bile. I'll go gastal accept. How much did he spoil!
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 1 July 2013 07: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: My address
      An alternative to dames is Rogozin or Sechin. Stupid realists without a liberal whim. It certainly would not occur to reward the Spotted or donate the territory of the country.

      It seems to me that the LADY will be kept in the prime ministers for the time being, and closer to the presidential elections they will be replaced by Rogozin. He will be the "successor".
      1. Stiletto
        Stiletto 1 July 2013 10: 26 New
        +4
        But it seems to me that they are preparing Shoigu as successors. I could be wrong, but it would be better not.
    2. alexng
      alexng 1 July 2013 08: 05 New
      +3
      Eh, we’d rather have replaced at least someone with this AI-PAD film.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 1 July 2013 08: 06 New
        +5
        Quote: alexneg
        Eh, we’d rather have replaced at least someone with this AI-PAD film.

        Put Kudrin, then remember your koment.
        1. alexng
          alexng 1 July 2013 12: 44 New
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Put Kudrin


          Hardly. It’s very dangerous to put financiers at the helm - there will be a decline due to their greed for urgent decisions.
  5. builder74
    builder74 1 July 2013 07: 29 New
    +3
    It is gratifying that there are people in power who think about the homeland and understand the possible threats.
  6. Petrovich-2
    Petrovich-2 1 July 2013 07: 29 New
    +1
    So you have to prepare to all three (and three more in reserve) scenarios.
  7. HAIFISCH
    HAIFISCH 1 July 2013 07: 37 New
    +1
    Much, much work remains to be done so long as our leader and team have enough political will and wisdom
  8. mogus
    mogus 1 July 2013 07: 38 New
    -1
    The Pentagon held a computer game, the results of which showed that as a result of an attack on a "large and highly developed country" with the use of 3500-4000 precision weapons, its infrastructure would be almost completely destroyed within 6 hours, and the state would lose its ability to resist. Obviously, if such a blow is delivered to Russia, then the main targets of the aggressor will be the forces of strategic nuclear deterrence. According to the current US estimates, such a strike could destroy 80-90% of our nuclear potential. At the same time, losses among the civilian population will be minimal. Western experts believe that although Russia will still have the opportunity to deliver a retaliatory nuclear strike against the aggressor, the military-political leadership of our country is unlikely to agree to this: after all, with the remaining means, which, in turn, the global missile defense system will try to intercept, we are supposedly already we will not be able to inflict unacceptable damage to the enemy, but in the event of a retaliatory nuclear strike, we will suffer colossal losses. It should be added that, according to the unanimous opinion of Western experts, such an attack will be accompanied by a powerful information and propaganda
    impact on the population of the victim country.
    Those. Do they naively believe that we will not notice preparations for a massive strike?
    The country's leadership today relies on our rapid response forces, i.e. on the operational potential of the Airborne Forces and troop mobility. As a result, we became able in a short time to form quite powerful army groups from troops deployed from other regions of the country in the threatened direction. But will they be able to effectively confront an adversary who has previously created a numerical superiority in the conflict zone?
    Today there are alternative
    classical military theory views on how to counter such a threat. According to them, the war against such an aggressor should still be conducted non-contact - with the help of a weapon having a large radius of action, and this weapon should not only strike at the enemy’s manpower and equipment, but also impede its logistic support.
    and we have with this byad, we are destroying warehouses, while new ones are still evident. Where to replenish the mobile army? You won’t take much with you. Logistics in our country beyond the Urals is easiest to destroy.
    we need to make a technological breakthrough
    like we build plants in places ...
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 1 July 2013 15: 54 New
      +2
      In the event of a conflict with the Americans, there will be nothing to supply the army for, because the army, even without high-precision weapons, will be knocked out in a week. To repel aggression, we will need positions with powerful weapons, both nuclear and not (for example, 10-ton vacuum bombs, tested a couple of years ago, with delivery vehicles), securely preserved and covered so that a significant part of them survived the first strike. Under them, groups of military specialists, sufficient for the use of these weapons, must be "mothballed". These people should no longer serve in the army (it is better if there are no traces of their military past at all).
      And we also need warehouses reasonably distributed throughout the country to arm the people. It is the people, under the command of the few military who survived the first strike, that can only repel American-level aggression. The use of nuclear weapons in the current situation generally seems unlikely - the territory will be unusable, having lost a lot, the aggressor will gain nothing.
      Unfortunately, our enemy inflicted the most massive blow on the people. On the one hand, the motivation to fight back is extremely reduced. One has only to see how the bosses of all levels ... but just look at what they look like and hands drop, not like a machine gun rises. Secondly, having brought precisely these bosses to power, the enemy also solved the following problem - in panic fear of their people, leaders as far as they can reduce our combat potential.
      All systems of youth combat training have been destroyed. The whole sport is ruthlessly cut out, excluding the cultivation of muscle-eaters, that is, "athleticism" (Dr. Kraevsky is spinning in a coffin) and bodybuilding. The value of this direction as preparation for battles is strictly negative. The strength endurance of an untrained person who is engaged in physical labor of average intensity is several times higher than that of the most powerful bodybuilder.
      Consistent pacifism is imposed, banal cowardice is cultivated and strongly encouraged by the state. Any manifestations of courage and courage are mercilessly persecuted, all systems of laws are set up to punish the brave man and to encourage the coward and bastard in every possible way.
      The situation is very poor, but the main problems and do not lie closely in the field of UAVs or cyber suits. America relies on a giant war machine. Rogozin understands that we can’t create a car of comparable size, that’s good. But does he understand that we must be victorious sand that will destroy any mechanism, no matter how great it is? Massive investments in large warships warm the soul, but only to no avail burn the resources vitally necessary for training and restoring the motivation of those who will ensure victory - our ordinary people ...
  9. fenix57
    fenix57 1 July 2013 07: 40 New
    +3
    "And the scientific potential of the country was actually destroyed after the collapse of the USSR."- And now Livanov, with the support of DAM, wants to bury Russian science altogether. And to whom in this case they work ... And without scientific development .... request
  10. buzuke
    buzuke 1 July 2013 07: 42 New
    +2
    the fact that they analyze threats is, of course, good, but I did not see concrete proposals for their elimination. somehow everything is blurry, without specifics. now we’ll get together, now we’ll think about it, now we’ll organize, after all this we’ll work out, etc. these threats have not only just appeared; it is high time to have the scenarios and means (at least in the draft) to resist them. and if they are, so calm the people, even give a hint of what is being done.
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  12. individual
    individual 1 July 2013 08: 00 New
    +1
    Russian society is chosen from the trap of hopelessness of the 90s.
    The armed forces have received an impetus for the development and worthy leaders of the defense department able to put the protection of Russia at the proper level.
  13. Lavrik
    Lavrik 1 July 2013 08: 37 New
    +1
    The Pentagon plans to destroy 5-6% of our nuclear potential within 80-90 hours. Now think - we, having discovered the launches of SLCM and ALCM, will wait 5-6 hours for them to fall on our SNF launchers? I can assume that a certain number of our strategic missiles can be destroyed by the enemy's low-speed missile launchers (a few percent - no more). But the enemy should know that his massive KR strike will be followed by a strike not by 10-20% of strategic nuclear forces, but by 95-97%. And these are "two big differences."
  14. zevs379
    zevs379 1 July 2013 08: 49 New
    +1
    The more insistently we prepare for war, the less desire we will have to start it at pin dos.
    So they will go on the beaten track - they will look for the next Judas in power like Gorbachev.
    So far, the real candidate is Medvedev. When will they send him to the kurot?
  15. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM 1 July 2013 08: 54 New
    +1
    And did the Yankers, with their little player for the destruction of the world, see that in Russia only in the near future will 8 new submarines come into operation?
    and their launches of nuclear missiles with an emphasis on a breakthrough missile defense think how many percent will be taken back?
    And they foresaw what else in the Union they envisaged, so that to inflict a colossal blow on America it is not necessary to bomb directly on the island which the missile defense system is stuck with, but it is possible to smash it side by side along the ocean and a volcano, and these Colorado minke whales will have time to "meet" one tsunami after another
    We also need to model our game and show on the News, let them admire !!!!
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 1 July 2013 09: 23 New
      +1
      They simply have an approaching famine, etc. brain brought down!)))
  16. tomas.09
    tomas.09 1 July 2013 09: 29 New
    +1
    Do they remember the "Dead Hand"?
  17. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 1 July 2013 09: 31 New
    +3
    1) Quote: On May 1, the X-51A hypersonic missile was successfully tested, which, after launching from a bomber, accelerated to Mach 5,1. Yes, modern air defense systems are practically powerless against attack means with hypersonic speeds. But the development of missile defense does not stand still. The history of the development of weapons confirms a simple truth: when the latest types of weapons appeared, effective counteracting weapons were always invented. So, the principles of arms development develop only at a high level.
    2) In the days of the USSR, they were strictly concerned with the problem of using imported element base in domestic radio-electronic equipment for military purposes. The customers of the Ministry of Defense knew that there was a danger that, at a crucial moment, on a command from abroad, imported elements could be simply destroyed, disabling the electronic apparatus as a whole. It is easy to imagine what will happen if this unit is on a strategic bomber. At present, such requirements have been relaxed. Therefore, it is an overriding task to bring up the technologies of the Russian defense industry to the level of the best foreign models.
    3)I distrust various kinds of computer simulations (utopias). These are purely theoretical studies. It is almost impossible to take into account all the factors of modeling a future war. But consider the thoughts of potential enemies, when building the military doctrine of the country, is extremely necessary.
  18. Nitup
    Nitup 1 July 2013 10: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    And precisely for this reason, all these horror stories about attack options are nothing more than horror stories.
    War economically, as practice has shown, is no less effective than direct capture.
    For 25 years, we fell under colonial slavery to America after their victory in the Cold War ...
    So why take the risk and apply tomahawks?

    Well, the thing is, we are gradually getting out of this slavery.
    And if in the future it is such that they understand that the leadership of Russia cannot be bribed, not killed, the revolution cannot be organized, military scenarios will be considered.
  19. krez-74
    krez-74 1 July 2013 10: 49 New
    +1
    "Titanic work awaits us to restore the intellectual and physical strength of our Motherland. And we are ready for such work." Understanding this pleases, but infuriates the fact that they broke so easily that it is now necessary to restore!
  20. Gakkoga
    Gakkoga 1 July 2013 10: 50 New
    +2
    Yes, in this scenario, the situation is critical, if not today we change our minds, then it is probably never possible. It's time to take our heads and create our own story, and not fit into the script of bad screenwriters. We are people of a great country, and it is not for us to disgrace our ancestors.
  21. Nitup
    Nitup 1 July 2013 11: 03 New
    +7
    1. An analysis of the practical activities of the current American administration suggests that the United States has begun to create a qualitatively new counter-force potential, which should provide them with the opportunity to launch a preventive disarming strike on the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation without any irreversible environmental consequences for the attacking side.

    2. The idea of ​​such a strike can be based on the idea of ​​a sudden massive mass-produced SLCM strike of long-range missiles on the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation with the simultaneous defeat by US anti-aircraft missile forces of domestic strategic missile defense regiments in their combat patrol areas. To destroy the Russian strategic missiles that had launched, missile defense forces will be used.

    3. In the United States, management bodies of the strategic and operational-strategic levels (USC USC, US Armed Forces in the European zone and the Pacific Ocean) are formed, responsible for planning and organizing such a preventive strike

    The formation of the offensive-defensive strike forces continues on the basis of the operational formations of the "global strikes" forces, the US missile defense and anti-aircraft missile forces. A legal framework has been prepared and a strategy for delivering preventive nuclear strikes in peacetime has been developed.

    4. The development and adoption of weapons and intelligence systems capable of continuously monitoring the movement of mobile objects of the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation is ongoing. The creation of shock systems based on submarines with long-range SLCMs continues. Work is underway to create penetrating warheads of cruise missiles in conventional and nuclear equipment. Development and deployment of missile defense systems and systems for intercepting strategic missiles in the active, middle and final sections of the trajectory are being carried out. Submarine submarine forces capable of operating in the coastal zone are being improved.

    5. The existing domestic missile defense system under conditions of a massive SLCM strike will not be able to provide the leadership of the Russian Federation with warning information in the interests of organizing retaliatory and countermeasures of the Russian strategic nuclear forces. A significant reduction in strategic nuclear forces, and especially its mobile component, with the overwhelming US superiority in WTO, missile defense and anti-aircraft defense forces, leads to a sharp decrease in the Russian potential for retaliation and thereby provokes the United States to launch a preventive disarming strike against the Russian Federation.

    6. As a priority measure aimed at strengthening the domestic nuclear deterrence potential, we see the creation of an air attack warning system that provides control of the main missile-hazard directions and the generation of a warning signal about a massive strike by the Kyrgyz Republic in the interests of preparing the Russian strategic nuclear forces for retaliatory and countermeasures. Along with this, an effective air defense system of the RF strategic nuclear forces basing areas should be deployed, capable of repulsing a massive strike by the SLCM database.

    Sergey YAGOLNIKOV
    Major General, Head of FGU "2 Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense of Russia", Doctor of Technical Sciences, Professor, Honored Scientist of the Russian Federation
    Andrey SHUSHKOV
    Lieutenant Colonel, Head of the Laboratory of the Federal State Institution "2 Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense of Russia"

    http://www.vko.ru/DesktopModules/Articles/ArticlesView.aspx?tabID=320&ItemID=89&
    mid = 2893 & wversion = Staging
  22. ed65b
    ed65b 1 July 2013 11: 57 New
    +1
    1. Asymmetric parity through a landslide tsunami

    A method of asymmetric ensuring parity with PP by means of a landslide tsunami with a wave height on the coastline of meters, tens or hundreds of meters due to the effect of a volcanic eruption or earthquake on the initiating geophysical structure.

    Among these are the volcano Cumbre Vieja, the island of La Palma of the Canary Archipelago (and others). During the last eruption of the volcano, two cracks about a kilometer long were formed in its structure, and the western part slipped 4 m down. This unstable part of the volcano with a volume of more than 500 km3 and a weight of about 0,5 trillion tons can collapse spontaneously or due to insignificant external environmental impact.

    The separated part of the volcano will first fall into the valley at the foot of the volcano, then it will crawl into the ocean at a speed of 100-120 m / s.

    After 9 hours, a 50-meter wave will destroy the cities of the eastern coast of North America, including New York, Boston, Miami, military bases and settlements located at a distance of 20 km from the coastline. In the lowlands and estuaries - at a greater distance. Towards Cape Canaveral, the wave height will decrease by half, the same - in Canada.

    Since the collapse of the volcano and the sliding of its part will occur in the western part of the island, the tsunamis in the eastern, south- and north-eastern directions will be significantly lower. For a number of countries in Western Europe, the wave height will be about 12 m.

    For Russia, the increase in water level is estimated at several centimeters, taking into account the interaction of the wave with the glaciers of Greenland and Iceland, a maximum of several tens of centimeters, which is less than wind surges in the bays of the Baltic Sea.

    Such landslides, leading to megatsunami up to 500 m high on the coastline with their "sweeping" of the west coast of America, have repeatedly occurred in Hawaii. The last megatsunami, initiated by a landslide in Hawaii, occurred 110 thousand years ago. There are landslide shifts today on the slopes of the world's largest volcano Mauna Loa. The volume of this landslide can be 5000 km3 or more.

    The nonlinearity of the impact of the natural activation of the landslide by hypercuns makes it possible to consider it an uncontrollable weapon of mass destruction (WMD).

    And we are like that.
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 1 July 2013 14: 25 New
      0
      By the way, yes. Hypothetically, a tsunami can be caused by a deep explosion of high power. Nobody and nothing under any circumstances can save certain tirritories of America from this wave. she will sweep away everything in her path, no matter how massive and high-tech it would not be. The president and part of the elite will be saved, yes, but where then will these planes land and will they be so warmly welcomed in neighboring countries after the elements destroy their main forces? I suspect not.

      In addition, theoretically there is the possibility, in the inevitability of the extermination of state funds, together with the inhabitants, to blow up all nuclear weapons in warehouses and mines. In this case, just everything will die and the planet will cease to exist.

      Nuclear weapons are a powerful deterrent. Even what Nitul listed above cannot guarantee absolute impunity, but even vice versa, it can provoke irreversible and catastrophic consequences for everyone.
  23. Alexey M
    Alexey M 1 July 2013 13: 00 New
    +3
    Have you seen enough of your cinema? We need to show them our CINEMA type, "They fought for their homeland... If then they do not stop doing stupid things to show the movie," DMB, "then all the series will definitely not be useful.
    And about the mass destruction of strategic nuclear forces is complete nonsense. Why will they destroy a mine with a rocket or a boat on duty or poplar on a walk? Probably again money from the congress will beg for money and now they will be forgiven. And again, the destruction of strategic nuclear forces will give them nothing to occupy; not only the whole country will rise, but half of the 140000000 is enough to strangle all occupants.
    1. lucidlook
      lucidlook 4 July 2013 12: 55 New
      0
      How will they destroy a mine with a rocket or a boat on duty or poplar on a walk?

      Currently, only mine complexes pose a serious problem, which modern warheads are not guaranteed to destroy. Submarines, firstly, are extremely small, and secondly, they are constantly pursued by hunters (with varying degrees of success). And mobile complexes are not as numerous as it might seem.

      But this is at the present time. And in the future, in the medium term (i.e. after 2015), the United States plans to adopt an orbital kinetic weapon (Hypervelocity Rod Bundles). The report "The US Air Force Transformation Flight Plan November 2003" makes this clear (p. 66 and Appendices "C" and "D") http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate /af/af_trans_flightplan_nov03.pdf

      Of course, now, in a crisis, many programs are phased out or postponed. But while it is not known exactly which and how much. So the competition between the core and the armor continues, you should not relax.
  24. Constantine
    Constantine 1 July 2013 13: 54 New
    0
    All of this is certainly correct, promising and interesting. The Advanced Research Fund is particularly pleased. In fact, he was with us, but they told us that the design and planning studies did not work, and in the meantime, DARPA was just such an agency. small firms were not able to provide US breakthrough technology.

    The only thing that worries me very, very much in this matter is that, under the guise of DAM with Livanov, in fact, they are liquidating the RAS, and this, in turn, will hit science as a whole because do not break it down and if you connect all the academies of sciences under one roof and put them in a manager who is mediocre in various matters, then everything will start to slip wildly and burrow. How, for example, can an architect from the RAS be placed on medicine, basic research in physics, and everything else? In my opinion, in key areas, there should be their own specialized RAS with relevant specialists and management.
  25. homosum20
    homosum20 1 July 2013 14: 22 New
    +3
    Plans for a disarming strike that would make it impossible for us to respond with nuclear retaliation are not new. It began with a "dropshot" (Plan "Dropshot" (English Dropshot - shortened hit in tennis) - developed in the United States in 1949, a war plan against the Soviet Union and its allies to counter the alleged Soviet invasion of Western Europe, the Middle East and Japan. Wikipedia.)
    The problem of a retaliation unacceptable to the enemy rose to its full height. The complexity of its solution was that the Americans were going to bombard us with nuclear weapons from European bases, and we could stop them only with the possibility of retaliatory bombing directly across the United States. Booster rockets, as you know, appeared in service with the Soviet troops only in 1959. At the time of the deployment of the "Dropshot" operation, we could only rely on long-range aviation. (Wikipedia)
    Yes, their economy is 10 times larger than ours. Yes, their standard of living is about the same as ours. But it also says that they have something to lose. 10 times more than us.
    And this suggests that it is necessary to do more nuclear missiles and their carriers.
  26. honest jew
    honest jew 1 July 2013 16: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    BAD THEY KNOW RUSSIAN! I and the dead will clutch you in the throat TWO-YANKED!


    No one will bomb Russia, and why ... In Russia, the Russian Kholuy elite, which was placed by the World Government, is in power!

    Therefore, all these pseudo-drops are about how we show the Yankees, Europe, etc. Russian Kui is just a child’s hysteria ...

    All the gold and foreign exchange reserves and reserves of the Russian Federation are in the US banks, the stabilization fund, too, all the bank accounts of our "servants of the people" in the banks of Switzerland and various offshores (the story with the Cyprus offshore is a slight hint to the Russian lackeys, so as not to turn up their noses and not to forget who are their owners, it was not in vain that Putin flew to Cyprus ... they summoned them to the carpet for a secret flogging!), real estate, yachts, expensive cars are also there ... kids live and study abroad as managers and managers in order to become worthy in the future change to their parents ... Russian oil, gas, metals, gold, wood are sold in full abroad for dollars ...

    So no one will bomb Russia, since the occupation regime necessary for the World Government has been established in Russia (at all 6 levels), if something goes wrong, then they will simply replace some Russian lackeys with others and that’s all! or Bulk ...

    And pro-Western and pro-American lackeys will not want to lose bills and real estate with yachts and cars abroad, and for the future the kids need to take a look .... therefore they will do what they are told because of the cordon, otherwise the krendez to all accounts and real estate (for Intimidation The world elite sometimes makes a show of flogging, for example, a beggar, crushed, humiliated, and dead Berezovsky, or, for example, interrogation at the FBI Abramovich ... know your place — cattle!)

    Yes, and a lot of dirt on our "servants of the people", which is enough for several generations! So you can sleep peacefully, no one will bomb us. And the statements of such lackeys like Rogozin are to divert the eyes, as well as to raise the patriotic spirit and mood, so that the old man can be kept in the stall and can be cut further ...
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 1 July 2013 17: 55 New
      0
      There is some truth in your (or not?) Thoughts, and not small. But all this was imposed on Russia thanks to two corrupt creatures and inherited. You need to be deaf-blind so as not to see how Russia is gradually chopping off these tentacles. Yes, you can. give a bunch of arguments against which it is difficult to object, but the ice has broken. First of all, this is the position on Syria, Iran, attempts to get away from the dollar (if the BRICS countries supported it, it would be a blow below the belt to the Fed), Snowden, etc. Would we need it? Huge sums allocated by the military-industrial complex out of the kindness of our soul? Well, we would hug further with the "world government", but no, it means there is something to defend in Russia. ZY I am not a fan of Putin, but only with him (though not as quickly as we would like), Russia began to rise from the knees. Chicken grain by grain - the whole yard in Mr. hi
  27. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 1 July 2013 17: 30 New
    +1
    ... sovereignty in the modern world is an exclusive thing.
    But it’s precisely said ... I tried to name five truly independent countries without a hitch ... Except for the USA. And I came to a simple conclusion. Whoever the USA rolls the barrel on is independent of them ... Russia, Belarus, Iran, Syria, India ( ?), China (?), Venezuela (?), Ecuador (?) ...
    1. teodorh
      teodorh 1 July 2013 22: 02 New
      +1
      really only two independent, these are the USA and China
  28. honest jew
    honest jew 1 July 2013 19: 03 New
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    Quote: Semyon Semyonich
    Huge sums allocated by the military-industrial complex out of the kindness of your heart? Well, we would hug further with the "world government", but no, so there is something to defend in Russia



    With the consent of the World Government of Russia, the green light was given to spend huge amounts on weapons ... The question is, why? And then, to secure the resources of Siberia from the growing appetite of China. In the future you will see this, for now I can’t tell you everything, and why ... God gave each person a head and endowed it with the property of thinking and analyzing, and drawing conclusions .. You will recognize them by their fruits ...
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 2 July 2013 01: 09 New
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      Quote: honest Jew
      Quote: Semyon Semyonich
      Huge sums allocated by the military-industrial complex out of the kindness of your heart? Well, we would hug further with the "world government", but no, so there is something to defend in Russia



      With the consent of the World Government of Russia, the green light was given to spend huge amounts on weapons ... The question is, why? And then, to secure the resources of Siberia from the growing appetite of China. In the future you will see this, for now I can’t tell you everything, and why ... God gave each person a head and endowed it with the property of thinking and analyzing, and drawing conclusions .. You will recognize them by their fruits ...

      Are you a direct member of the world government? Well, of course, God gave everyone a head, and only you can think and analyze. You often condescend to the orphans, educate about the plans and behind-the-scenes games of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. And, with the consent of the World Government, Russia was given the green light to spend huge sums on weapons. .. The question is, why? And then, in order to secure the resources of Siberia from the growing appetite of China "does not stand up to criticism. Maybe a couple of aircraft carriers will be sold to us for this occasion?"
  29. honest jew
    honest jew 1 July 2013 21: 23 New
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    Quote: Semyon Semyonich
    I am not a fan of Putin, but only with him (at least not as fast as we would like), Russia began to get up off its knees.

    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 2 July 2013 00: 51 New
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      This is not an indicator. We wanted to build a parking lot near the cars, so they also got up half the district, didn’t let them. You can understand people there too. Who wants to part with the ground? So, now do not mine minerals?
  30. teodorh
    teodorh 1 July 2013 21: 59 New
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    It will be interesting to look at the war between the United States and Russia.
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 2 July 2013 01: 00 New
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      Quote: teodorh
      It will be interesting to look at the war between the United States and Russia.

      From the other world ???
      1. teodorh
        teodorh 2 July 2013 02: 12 New
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        I hope they will be responsible and will fight with conventional weapons.
        1. Trapperxnumx
          Trapperxnumx 2 July 2013 08: 53 New
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          Quote: teodorh
          I hope they will be responsible and will fight with conventional weapons.

          Of course!!! The most common thermonuclear weapons soldier