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Brzezinski on the crisis in Syria ("The National Interest", USA)From the editor. The following is an interview with The National Interest with Zbigniew Brzezinski, past presidential adviser Jimmy Carter on national security, and now a consultant and board member of the Center for Strategic and International Studies and senior professor at the School for Advanced International Studies at John Hopkins University. The interview was taken by Jacob Heilbrunn, the lead editor of The National Interest.


Heilbrunn: Historically, we often helped the rebel movements - as an example, Nicaragua, Afghanistan and Angola. If you are a neocon or a liberal hawk, you will say that it actually comes down to helping the forces overthrow the dictator. Then what's wrong with intervention for humanitarian reasons?

Zbigniew Brzezinski: In principle, there is nothing wrong with intervening on this basis. However, I believe that before acting, all the risks involved should be assessed. In Nicaragua, the risks were relatively small, given the dominant position of the United States in Central America and the absence of any serious access to this country from outside rivals. As for Afghanistan, I think we knew that problems could arise from Pakistan, but we had to do this because of the events of September 11. But, speaking about me personally, I gave the relevant advice to the then Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, when, together with some other experts, they consulted with us about the decision to go to Afghanistan. My advice was as follows: go there, "knock out" the Taliban, and then leave. I believe that the problem with Syria is that it can potentially have a destabilizing effect with far-reaching consequences - in particular, we must bear in mind the vulnerability of Jordan, Lebanon, the possibility that Iraq will indeed become part of a wider conflict between Sunnis and Shiites and that there could be a serious clash between us and the Iranians. I believe that the stakes are higher and the situation is much less predictable and, of course, not very amenable to effective retention only within Syria with the help of American power.

“For five years now, the Obama administration has been in power in the United States, and today you declare that the West has engaged in“ mass propaganda. ” Did Obama get involved in the Syrian conflict because of his excessive weakness and inability to defend the status quo? What happened to President Obama and why are we in this position?

- I can not do any psychoanalysis or revision stories in whatever form. Of course, he faces a difficult problem, but there is a dark side to this whole story. Just think about choosing the moment. At the end of 2011, uprisings began in Syria, caused by drought and instigated by two autocratic powers well known in the Middle East - Qatar and Saudi Arabia. The President of the United States immediately made a statement that Assad must go, obviously not having done anything concrete in order to bring it to life. Later, in the spring of 2012 of the year - by the way, in the election year - in one expose article in The New York Times of 24 in March 2012 of the year it was said that the CIA under the leadership of General Petraeus is launching a large-scale campaign designed to support Qatar and Saudi Arabia and somehow “tie” »Them to Turkey in connection with the activities undertaken. Was it a strategic calculation? Why did we all suddenly decide that Syria should be destabilized and its government overthrown? Has it ever been clarified by the American people? Then in the second half of 2012, especially after the elections, the wave of conflict turns to some extent against the rebels. And it becomes obvious that not all of these rebels are so “democratic.” And as a result begins the revision of the entire policy. I believe that these things should be clarified so that we can have a deeper understanding of what exactly the goal of US policy is.

“Are we, in fact, witnesses of a slow chain reaction?” The neocons' dream, when they entered Iraq, was to create a domino effect in the Middle East, under which we could overthrow one regime after another. This is essentially the grim scenario for realizing this aspiration?

- Yes, this is possible. They hope that, in a sense, Syria could compensate for what originally happened in Iraq. However, in my opinion, we should take into account the fact that in this particular case the regional situation as a whole is more volatile than at the time of the invasion of Iraq, and perhaps those who made this decision were influenced by the idea shared by some rights in Israel, that Israel’s strategic plans are best met by destabilization of the situation in all countries - its closest neighbors. I think this idea is a long-term formula for the catastrophic development of the situation for Israel, since its by-product, if it is realized, will become America’s loss of influence in the region, and Israel would eventually be left to itself. This is hardly good for Israel and - which I think is even more important because I look at problems from the point of view of American national interests - this is not so good for us.

- In one of your interviews, in my opinion, the MSNBC channel, you mentioned the possibility of holding an international conference. Do you still think this is a reasonable approach that America should promote more persistently in order to involve China, Russia and other powers in efforts to achieve some kind of peaceful end to this civil war?

“I think that if this issue is resolved in private with the Russians (which, in my opinion, we are forced to do because they are partially involved in this situation) and if we do it, relying mainly on the former colonial powers of the region - France and Great Britain, which is truly hated in the region, the chances of success are not as high as if we somehow involved China, India and Japan, who are interested in a more stable Middle East. This is to some extent related to the previous question you raised. Together, these countries could help achieve a compromise in which, at least outwardly, there will be no winner, but which could give us what I have been offering in different expressions for over a year, namely, that in Syria it should, with the support international community to hold elections in which everyone could participate. This will, to a certain extent, allow Assad to save his face, but may lead de facto to an agreement that he will remain in power until the end of his term in office next year, but will not stand again.

- How slippery is this path? Obama is definitely not enthusiastic about sending weapons to the Syrian rebels, he instructed Ben Rhodes to officially report this. What do you think, how slippery this way? Do you think we are moving towards even more American intervention?

“I'm afraid we are moving in the direction of ineffective American intervention, and this is even worse.” There are circumstances in which intervention seems to be not the best, but not the worst way out. However, what we are talking about means that we will increase the volume of our assistance to the least effective forces among those who oppose Assad. So at best, it will simply damage our credibility. At worst, it will bring groups closer to victory that are much more hostile towards us than Assad. I still do not understand why — and this applies to my first answer — why we decided once in the 2011 or 2012 year (by coincidence it was an election year) that Assad had to leave.

- The answer you gave about Israel was rather curious. Do you think that if even more serious unrest begins in the region, accompanied by a decrease in American influence, Israel will see this as an opportunity to consolidate the progress achieved or even aim at more radical tasks, especially if Jordan is ignited?

- Yes, I know what you are driving at. I think that, possibly, in the near future this will lead to the strengthening of the “impregnable fortress of Israel”, because no one will stand in the way, so to speak. But, above all, it will be a bloody massacre (which will affect different people differently), and Israel will also suffer significant losses. Despite this, the right will believe that it is necessary for survival.

But ultimately, a region with such a level of tension cannot be controlled, even if it tries to do Israel with its nuclear weapons. It will only turn for Israel in the way that some of our wars have turned around for us, only on a larger scale. Such a desire will lead to losses, to fatigue, apathy, demoralization, to emigration of the best and most progressive representatives of society, and then provoke a certain cataclysm, the essence of which we cannot now predict, because we do not know who, when and what opportunities will be. In addition, Iran is very close. Perhaps he has a certain nuclear potential. Suppose Israel ends this problem. What about Pakistan and other countries? The idea that even a very strong and motivated country, but with a population of only six million people, can control the whole region is no more than a crazy dream.

- I think my last question is if you think you can talk on this topic. You seem to be on the opposition bench now. Among representatives of the intelligentsia and in the media, we hear, it seems, the predominance of the voices of liberal “hawks” and neoconservative popular enthusiasm, a moralistic call to action in Syria, based on emotions. Why do you think, even after the fiasco of the war in Iraq, the discussions on foreign policy remain fairly one-sided in America?

- (Laughs) I think you know the answer better than me, but if I can express the theory: America is a highly motivated, good country. She is guided by good intentions. But it is also a country with an extremely simplistic understanding of the affairs in the world, with still great confidence in its ability to dominate, if necessary with the help of force. I believe that in a difficult situation, simplified solutions proposed either by demagogues or by people who are smart only when they give advice on certain aspects of the situation are what people can buy into. Assuming that a few more or other military campaigns have achieved the desired result and that this will be a victory for the sake of a just cause, but not having a full understanding of the hidden difficulties that will suck us deeper and deeper, ultimately we will be drawn into a major regional war , and this region will be even more hostile to us compared to the current attitude of many Arabs towards us. It would be a disaster for us. But the average American, who in fact has little interest in world affairs, will not understand these risks. Our country is a country with good intentions, but with poor knowledge and at the same time little experienced in world affairs.

- Thank you. Totally agree with you.
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  1. Denis
    Denis 30 June 2013 08: 59 New
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    Did he linger on this world? - Syria about Brzezinski
    1. Civil
      Civil 30 June 2013 09: 47 New
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      old anti-Soviet and Russophobe Brzezinski all can not calm down
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        1. StolzSS
          StolzSS 30 June 2013 16: 40 New
          +7
          Yes, they can))) and even everyone needs to go to the other world))) They are such parasites that against their background Jews orthodox are simply stubborn idealists)))
        2. vitamin ky
          vitamin ky 30 June 2013 17: 17 New
          +3
          not again September 11th to drag in - well, it’s already sore mouth - and who? - Like the Palyaks, no one and nothing exploded. What then tryndet? sad recourse
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      3. sinandju
        sinandju 30 June 2013 14: 01 New
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        No, but still a smart man, albeit an enemy.
      4. slas
        slas 30 June 2013 19: 47 New
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        - I think that if we decide this issue alone with the Russians (which, in my opinion, we are forced to do, because they are partially involved in this situation) and if we do this, relying mainly on the former colonial powers of the region - France and Great Britain, which the region truly hates, the chances of success are not as high as if we somehow involved China
        HALLEUJA --- saints and cotton candy can they see They are "forced to do" The countries mentioned in the article China India, etc. This is the next cell in the plans of the "saints"
    2. vezunchik
      vezunchik 30 June 2013 10: 24 New
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      Not for nothing that Ordin-Nashchekin (the first Westerner democrat) said about the Poles - this is a viciously vile and not reliable people ...
      1. orff
        orff 30 June 2013 11: 55 New
        +1
        and the Poles themselves are proud of this body?
        1. Denis
          Denis 30 June 2013 16: 03 New
          +4
          Quote: orff
          and the Poles themselves are proud of this body?
          Poles, they are ... proud, they are proud of everything
          only here is a murky story like him:
          According to the official biography, he was born in Warsaw into a noble family of a Polish diplomat [1]. According to other sources, he was born in the Polish consulate of Kharkov on the street. Olminsky, where his parents worked; recorded by them was born in Poland, and not in the USSR, so as not to spoil his biography
          In Kharkov, it is unlikely to become
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    3. Tersky
      Tersky 30 June 2013 12: 12 New
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      Quote: Denis
      Did he linger on this world? - Syria about Brzezinski

      Denis, hi ! Actually, in his interview, on the contrary, he perplexes the American layman with the result of US actions against Syria, and he will criticize the issue of the activities of the incumbent president.At the end of 2011, uprisings began in Syria, caused by drought and spurred on by two well-known autocratic powers in the Middle East - Qatar and Saudi Arabia. The US president immediately issued a statement that Assad should leave, obviously without doing anything specific to bring it to life. Later, in the spring of the 2012 of the year - by the way, in the election year - in a revelatory article in The New York Times of the 24 of March of the 2012 of the year, the CIA, under the leadership of General Petraeus, begins a large-scale campaign designed to support Qatar and Saudi Arabia and somehow “tie »Them to Turkey in connection with the activities undertaken. Was it a strategic calculation? Why did we all suddenly decide that Syria should be destabilized and its government overthrown? Has this ever been clarified to the American people? Then, in the second half of the 2012 year, especially after the election, a wave of conflict turns to some extent against the rebels. And it becomes obvious that not all of these rebels are so “democratic.” And as a result, a review of all policies begins. I believe that these things need to be clarified so that we can have a deeper understanding of exactly what the purpose of US policy is.I am not pleading with his anti-Russian actions, but this time he gave a completely sober assessment of the US policy in the BV. Well, in Russian - "The cat smells whose meat it has eaten," or before death decided to repent (he celebrated 85th), especially after his pearl "If the Russians are stupid enough to try to rebuild their empire, they will run into such conflicts that Chechnya and Afghanistan will seem like a picnic to them.", good luck to him straight to hell and aspen stake in .....
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        1. Tersky
          Tersky 30 June 2013 17: 08 New
          +6
          Quote: Anat1974
          . But maybe aspen stake first

          Totally agree! And two, one in the mouth, but the second is clear where .. wink .This is so that the first does not fall out laughing
          1. sergo0000
            sergo0000 30 June 2013 18: 33 New
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            Quote: Tersky
            Quote: Anat1974
            . But maybe aspen stake first

            Totally agree! And two, one in the mouth, but the second is clear where .. wink .This is so that the first does not fall out laughing

            Dreams Dreams Victor! hi Greetings colleagues!
            To be honest, I even respected him to some extent. He is an enemy, but an intelligent enemy!
            I just don’t know, I don’t even imagine how successful our affairs in foreign policy would be if he were in Obama’s place. recourse On the other hand, it’s easier to agree with a smart one, because @ Urak is unpredictable! what
            We have a proverb, While the clever thought, the "stupid" did! laughing This is about Obama and his administration. One fool blurted out to the whole world Assad must leave- now prove to him that enough is enough for it !.
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 30 June 2013 21: 01 New
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              Quote: sergo0000
              Dreams Dreams Victor!

              Good health, Sergey! Well, as they say, "Dreaming is not harmful, it is harmful not to dream" laughing .
              Quote: sergo0000
              be he in Obama's place.

              Holy .., holy,. Holy .. Leave the Lord. stop I can only wish him one, meet my Susanin ...
              1. sergo0000
                sergo0000 30 June 2013 21: 23 New
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                Quote: Tersky
                Holy .., holy,. Holy .. Leave the Lord. I can only wish him one, meet my Susanin ...

                drinks hi + + +
      2. Denis
        Denis 30 June 2013 15: 53 New
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        Quote: Tersky
        either decided to repent before death,
        Somehow I don’t believe in his repentance, I don’t believe it all
        Well, if right before death, like Berezovsky, then let him repent
        1. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 30 June 2013 16: 13 New
          +5
          It’s time to die for this creature, it’s high time and it is desirable to die for a long time and painfully. How much blood on the hands of this non-human adviser has already advised enough, for millions of innocent lives - a place has been reserved for him in hell. What are the goals, what politics, what repentance? He is a bastard and a fascist.
          "America is a highly motivated, good country. It is guided by good intentions." - only a sick person can call America good.
        2. Tersky
          Tersky 30 June 2013 17: 11 New
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          Quote: Denis
          Somehow I don’t believe in his repentance, I don’t believe it all

          Well, you never know, laughing , many have gone through a revaluation of prices ahead of the "oblique" visit .. yes And actually you are right, for such "cowboys" nothing is sacred.
    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 30 June 2013 16: 34 New
      +3
      Fresh video from Syria

      Counter-terrorist operation in Al Kabun. Reconnaissance in battle, a bridgehead. (part 1)


      Counter-terrorist operation in Al Kabun. Armor and smoke. (part 2)


      Counter-terrorist operation in Al Kabun. Militants Headquarters and Stripping. (part 3)


      Brief summary of the situation in Syria for June 29, 2013
      1. Draz
        Draz 30 June 2013 21: 57 New
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        I see the lattices on the T-72 towers soldier
    5. Interface
      Interface 30 June 2013 20: 40 New
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      .... At the end of the 2011 year, uprisings in Syria began due to drought .....


      Is this insanity?
      1. kavkaz8888
        kavkaz8888 30 June 2013 23: 44 New
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        No it's brzezinski
    6. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 30 June 2013 21: 14 New
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      And I want this guy to live longer and see the end of the United States of America project. The following phrase smiled: "America is a highly motivated, good country. It is guided by good intentions," it was said forcefully. Interestingly, He himself believes it?
      1. Denis
        Denis 30 June 2013 22: 57 New
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        Quote: EwgenyZ
        And I want this guy to live longer and see the end of the "United States of America" ​​project
        Not only to you! How to help this infamous dedugan to wait?
        Know how to speed up
    7. Tatb
      Tatb 30 June 2013 23: 30 New
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      Satan is waiting for him! But no matter how our media began to extol this! such as a great politician and man. As it was with the anniversary of the iron lady Margaret! After her words that the Russians must be reduced to 15 million!
    8. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 1 July 2013 05: 29 New
      +1
      It's time to make the site public and fight back the "blacks of all stripes" let the sheep graze. Next, we'll meet, together, Let's arrange a peaceful vespers, with each other, with the site administrator, everything is within the law. This will be the most militant brotherhood in Russia. they know how, they know, they remember. This is sila. The pedics arrange parades. We have our own parade, only another one. 50-60% will support us in any way. And further conclusions.
  2. Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 30 June 2013 09: 05 New
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    interview with reptile .--
  3. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 30 June 2013 09: 07 New
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    from the Don.
    Ah yes Brzezinski, oh yes well done! How his brains turned upside down, at the fart !!!
  4. Tatarus
    Tatarus 30 June 2013 09: 10 New
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    1. Our country is a country ... with poor knowledge and at the same time little sophisticated in world affairs.
    2. But it is also a country with an extremely simplified understanding of world affairs.
    3. (About Israel) The idea that even a very strong and motivated country, but with a population of only six million people can control the whole region is nothing more than an extravagant dream.


    Even this creature can pull smart phrases.

    About Brzezinski

    "Wisdom comes with age
    But how often age comes alone. "
    1. maxcor1974
      maxcor1974 30 June 2013 09: 28 New
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      In the old days, Zbigniew was one of the hawks, an ardent opponent of the USSR. But he was never a fool, and now apparently began to understand that the dominance of the United States exerts strain on its forces, is the beginning of the decline of this empire. Surprised by his more or less positive attitude towards Russia in recent years.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 30 June 2013 10: 00 New
        +9
        Quote: maxcor1974
        But he was never a fool

        That's it. Such a person is sorely lacking in Russia. Seer a little further than his own nose.
        1. ziqzaq
          ziqzaq 30 June 2013 14: 01 New
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          Quote: Spade
          That's it. Such a person is sorely lacking in Russia. Seer a little further than his own nose.

          As for the lack of competent people, it is very debatable ... Believe us, there are enough sensible people. But Zbigniew, in my subjective opinion, is pretty dumb, well, it’s just one thing to hate Russia and another thing to consider Russia and the Russian people as an insolvent nation, incapable of preserving the state, before he spoke about this quite unequivocally.
          Bzezhinsky is simply a banal weather vane, it was beneficial to spoil the air - spoiled, and now ???
          PS
          The Russian authorities do not have enough decent people, patriots of their country, too many liberoid cocks made their way there .....
          1. ziqzaq
            ziqzaq 30 June 2013 15: 03 New
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            Wow how many fans of Brzezinski however ......
            I want to remind pearl Zbignev:
            "The new world order will be built on the ruins of Russia, at the expense of Russia and against Russia ...."
            Although it may be liberoid cocks minus ?????
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 30 June 2013 15: 37 New
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              Is this an indicator of his "stupidity"? Have you forgotten that he has nothing to do with Russia?
              1. ziqzaq
                ziqzaq 30 June 2013 15: 55 New
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                Quote: Spade
                Have you forgotten that he has nothing to do with Russia?

                His statements speak for themselves ......
                Quote: Spade
                Is this an indicator of his "stupidity"?

                When the "hawk" Bush Jr. was in power, who did not know how to express his thoughts correctly, and this says a lot, Bzezhinsky clearly and unambiguously let the entire ideology of American politics under the aspirations of Bush and his team. Now, when the American elite realized that such a path is beyond their power, they have not changed, but simply do not have the resources to continue the policy of Bush Jr., Zbigniew in his rhetoric is turning almost 180 degrees ... I won’t be surprised if tomorrow America plunges into economic chaos, Zbigniew will wash off into China and broadcast: "The new world order will be built on the ruins of America, at the expense of America and against America ..."
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 30 June 2013 16: 05 New
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                  Already under Bush Jr., they especially stopped listening to him. Otherwise, they would not have gotten it wrong in Afghanistan and Iraq.
          2. Lopatov
            Lopatov 30 June 2013 15: 43 New
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            Quote: ziqzaq
            As for the lack of competent people, it is very debatable ...

            Libya surrendered? Was it hard to understand that Syria was next? Where are your geopolitically literate people?

            Well, as for measuring the mind of a foreigner in terms of love for Russia, I already wrote to your colleague below
            1. ziqzaq
              ziqzaq 30 June 2013 16: 07 New
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              Quote: Spade
              Libya surrendered? Was it hard to understand that Syria was next? Where are your geopolitically literate people?

              This is a consequence of the decisions of liberoid roosters who are still in power: Medvedev, Livanov, Kudrinskaya gang ...
              Nothing VVP will eventually clean up these Augean stables, it’s not in the pub to put things in order ....
              Regarding "love", it is good to feel this high feeling for a woman, and an intelligent and far-sighted politician in his judgments must rely on facts, including historical ones. And a lot of intelligence is not needed to understand that the destruction of Russia is NOT POSSIBLE. Russia has a thousand-year history, and has proven its right to exist in bloody wars against the most powerful armies in the world, which, by the way, brought almost the whole world to its knees ...
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 30 June 2013 16: 37 New
                +1
                If everything was so simple ... Bad liberals are gone, and now everything will be tip-top ...
                1. ziqzaq
                  ziqzaq 30 June 2013 17: 14 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Spade
                  If everything were so simple ...

                  I agree with you, but the tree is recognized by its fruits .......
                  Please do not confuse liberals and liberals, these are slightly different concepts ...
        2. Very old
          Very old 30 June 2013 15: 18 New
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          Uh, but WINSTON left early, that would be anyone else! He also thought positively about Russia (though from 1941 to 44. Lopatov, you have fat-fat MINUS ------------------! You need to think
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 30 June 2013 15: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: Very old
            It is necessary to think

            Precisely, my friend. Start doing this yourself. Think. And do not measure the level of intelligence of an American by the criterion of the level of his love for Russia. This is somewhat stupid.

            I will not put any cons to you, play these games yourself. And I don’t give a damn about yours from a high bell tower.
      2. Very old
        Very old 30 June 2013 15: 12 New
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        Don't expect Z.B. positive, Max read the interview twice, reviewed the comments of colleagues on the site twice. And for himself the conclusion: he was not talking with J. Heil! Brunn rubbed the conversations, and gave his Abamushka a signal, they say, what a hell we put you on. Need a war? You already have 2 (3,4, ...), do not strain, unless there are not enough dogs on a chain sitting idle, former metropolises, scandalous neighbors, just a bitch (this will be your saint), it's time to think about America. But "a positive attitude towards Russia" is not for him. As they say, a black dog ... etc. I agree with you: domination overstrains. For this + All the best
      3. Very old
        Very old 30 June 2013 15: 52 New
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        Max, read the interview twice, looked at the comments on the site twice. And the conclusion for myself: do not expect positive from Z.B. He did not talk with J. Heil! Brunn, but gave a signal to his Abamushka. Like, why did we put you on, the work is too clumsy. There are former metropolises, scandalous neighbors, just a little bit (this will be your saint later). You already have 2 (3,4 ...) wars. He loafs around the dogs on a chain ... Do not overexert yourself, remember the unforgettable Winnie. And "a positive attitude towards Russia" is bullshit. We write two, three in the mind. As they say, a black dog ... Our idiots have already come across such hooks. Here you have a reboot, and building new relationships, etc. "domination ... overstrains" - I agree with you, this worries him in the first place. He was not a fool, listen to him carefully, he can tell not only Abamushka, we too
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 30 June 2013 09: 58 New
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      C'mon, he's really the smartest man. He is simply a patriot of his country, and considers all events precisely through this prism. And no one can demand anything else from him.
      You read the article more carefully, he says absolutely sensible things. He really cares that the US foreign policy in recent decades completely destroyed the tower.
      1. Xnumx kopeek
        Xnumx kopeek 30 June 2013 10: 09 New
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        Quote: Spade
        C'mon, he's really the smartest man. He is simply a patriot of his country, and considers all events precisely through this prism. And no one can demand anything else from him.
        You read the article more carefully, he says absolutely sensible things. He really cares that the US foreign policy in recent decades completely destroyed the tower.
        -
        - as if there are few such "patriots" in Russia - Patriotism does not mean getting into someone else's garden.
        -historically - Polish Jews - mb. the most vile people in the world. / thisot Bz-y, Kissinger, etc. / - Also "patriotic" of other people's gardens. By the way, Bilderberg organized a Polish Jew / 1954 / -Essno, also a patriot. angry
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 30 June 2013 10: 16 New
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          We have a lot of patriots. But there are no geopoliticians of this level. If there were, the same Libya, we would not merge. After all, it was absolutely clear that Syria was next in line for "Muslim brothers"

          Well, about "other people's gardens" - Are you for Russia to stop meddling in the affairs of Syria, and it also merged? Finally drained Iran, and quietly huddled in a soybean hole? These are clearly not our gardens either.
          1. Xnumx kopeek
            Xnumx kopeek 30 June 2013 10: 54 New
            +5
            Did I say that? - belay - Surely, if Moscow didn’t allow Libya, then Syria wouldn’t be beaten. -Kiyoza also broadcasts / author of the book Zero- / about the Bashnyachi / -Syria - the garden is ours. Syria is an Orthodox country / where the most important posts have always been beaten by Christians / Syria - you can say - the birthplace of Orthodoxy, like Palestine, Lebanon, etc. - and the reign. monastics, etc. The first Russian metropolitan was beaten by a Syrian. So today, mainly. There are also many Russian-Syrian families .---
            -Syria is called the Heart of the East. / Syria is ancient Aram.-Christ spoke to people in Aramaic. If such things are empty for you, then it’s from different dimensions. It beats. request
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 30 June 2013 14: 43 New
              +5
              Quote: 20 kopeek
              Syria is called the Heart of the East. / Syria is ancient Aram.-Christ spoke to people in Aramaic. If such things are empty for you, then it’s from different dimensions. It beats.

              Nice post. Plus. But not only because of Syria - the vegetable garden of Russia. It's just that Russia is next after Syria and Iran, it happened so. Well, why wait then? It is cheaper to maintain a Shiite shield against the invasion of the Sunnis, or rather radical Sunni movements, than to fight against them yourself. This seems clear to me. When Brzezinski says that "In principle, there is nothing wrong with interfering on this basis."- first of all he means Russia, its liberation from Putin and even from Medvedev, as not pro-American enough, so interference in the internal affairs of all countries, including Russia, Kazakhstan, and even China, is the essence of US policy. so, then putting a spoke in the wheels of the United States wherever it is possible - should be the essence of Russian policy until the United States intervened in Russia itself.
              Therefore, in Syria, Russia did not intervene - Russia to a damn, what kind of regime in Syria and what are the orders there. She simply does not give Syria an insult for her own sake.
          2. zart_arn
            zart_arn 30 June 2013 23: 02 New
            +3
            Quote: Spade
            We have a lot of patriots. But there are no geopolitics of this level.

            But there were - the same Primakov, for example. Only our fathers-commanders listened to them a little.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 30 June 2013 23: 15 New
              +1
              And this is the second problem. It is necessary that these smart ones also be listened to. But they didn’t puff up: "Yes, I will be smarter than you in international politics, I ate hamburgers with Obama himself."
            2. Tolik.Skiff.
              Tolik.Skiff. 30 June 2013 23: 23 New
              +2
              It would be interesting to read Primakov's opinion ... He is Bzezhinsky's eternal appointee ... "Aifonya" is simply ridiculous in comparison with him ... hi
        2. CAMS
          CAMS 30 June 2013 14: 53 New
          0
          smacks of Nazism, and here Jewry, you don’t like what he’s talking about, you might have to think about it, because it’s aerobatics in geopolitics, you need to listen and not mock the poor Jews
      2. sevtrash
        sevtrash 30 June 2013 10: 47 New
        +3
        I agree with you, smart and sane. It is necessary to read his interview or article, useful for understanding the essence of events.
        He probably has a negative attitude towards Russia, apparently, now, after the destruction of the USSR, he considers others to be the main opponent of the United States, perhaps China, in this sense, sees Russia as an ally, temporary, of course. Probably by the principle - who has become the strongest of all - that must be destroyed.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 30 June 2013 11: 20 New
          +1
          Quote: sevtrash
          He probably has a negative attitude towards Russia

          Is not a fact. He is a pragmatist to the marrow of bones. Previously, he promoted the option of dismembering Russia, a kind of new period of feudal fragmentation. Now he sees in us the role of an outpost of Western civilization in the fight against China and the Islamic world.
          But do not forget that he prioritizes the interests of the United States as a globally dominant superpower.
          1. sevtrash
            sevtrash 30 June 2013 13: 03 New
            +7
            Rather, he sees in Russia a country that can be thrown under the Chinese ice rink and under the Islamist infection. Therefore, to split Russia is now unprofitable, from his point of view. Then - it is necessary, if only Russia will be able to survive.
            1. Very old
              Very old 30 June 2013 16: 03 New
              +4
              Sergey, explain this to LOPATOV, maxcor1974 to others. A wonderful analyst, a pragmatist, and much more can be said outright, but you don’t have to do fluffy. Clever, but ENEMY. Therefore, it is dangerous. +
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 30 June 2013 16: 16 New
                0
                And who told you that I consider him a friend of Russia? He is not a friend, nor is he an enemy. He, in fact, does not care about Russia. The interests of the United States as a superpower are important to him.
                He will demand to crush Russia if it interferes his country, he will declare the need for "realpolitik" in relation to us, talk about the need for support if he believes that Russia can fulfill some geopolitical task in the interests of his country

                Everything is simple. No need to fall into Russiancentricity. There are still many countries and blocs in the world that have their own interests. And these interests have their own spokesmen such as Brzezinski
      3. stroporez
        stroporez 30 June 2013 11: 02 New
        11
        I think everyone knows, he is a pragmatic scoundrel. and most of all annoying shaw he is not our scoundrel ..........
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 30 June 2013 11: 16 New
          +2
          Quote: stroporez
          and most of all annoying sho he is not our scoundrel

          To the point.
          1. Very old
            Very old 30 June 2013 16: 04 New
            0
            Do you have brains or Kyu ???
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 30 June 2013 16: 19 New
              0
              Hamite, boy? (C)
      4. APASUS
        APASUS 30 June 2013 11: 12 New
        +2
        Quote: Spade
        You read the article more carefully, he says absolutely sensible things. He really cares that the US foreign policy in recent decades completely destroyed the tower.

        Brzezinski is the smartest politician and hearing from him a recognition of this type does not change anything in the politics of the United States itself. To recognize the wrong actions does not mean to change.
        The Obama administration only hears the ringing of weapons!
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 30 June 2013 11: 33 New
          +3
          This is not the point. Brzezinski from the era of mammoths, and now the era of rats, as aptly Ligachev described our time.

          The US authorities simply do not listen to such far-sighted people as he. Because US foreign policy is similar to the actions of an elephant in a china shop. Which, moreover, all sorts of Cathars and Saudis are dragging back and forth for a trunk. Pursuing your own interests
          1. 755962
            755962 30 June 2013 13: 53 New
            +3
            According to Brzezinski, what is happening in Syria is Washington's inexplicable interference in the plans of Qatar and Saudi Arabia to change power in the countries of the region for the benefit of Israel. At the same time, Washington's arming of the Syrian "opposition" undermines confidence in American politics and, in the end, may lead to an increase in hostility in the world towards the United States.

            For some time, stirring up a conflict in the region will strengthen Israel, since there will be no one left on its way. However, this will be a short period - in the future, events will break out in the region that no one will be able to take control, even Israel with its nuclear weapons.

            At the same time, an American expert doubted Israel’s ability to dominate the region. "The idea of ​​realizing the great ambitions of a state with 6 million inhabitants, with all its military power, is just a dream."

            http://www.nakanune.ru/news/2013/6/28/22314067/
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 30 June 2013 15: 46 New
              +1
              Here I am about that. Brzezinski sees 10 moves ahead, and the current US leaders one.
          2. Very old
            Very old 30 June 2013 16: 13 New
            +1
            Shovels, tail twists a dog?
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 30 June 2013 16: 42 New
              +1
              And you do not know? And are you trying to judge something else? Even as it twists.

              Why do you think the Saudi attacks on September 11th and Iraq bombed the Stone Age for this?
              Have you ever heard of the connections of the Saudi royal family and the American political elite?
          3. Very old
            Very old 30 June 2013 16: 14 New
            0
            Shovels, tail twists a dog?
          4. Tolik.Skiff.
            Tolik.Skiff. 30 June 2013 23: 37 New
            0
            You are right. Not who is listening to him now, but in vain he is a progmatist. Crap does not carry too much, like these "Syavki" from the State Department. He is certainly a son of a bitch, but smart ... hi
        2. Very old
          Very old 30 June 2013 16: 10 New
          0
          RAVO, from some comments: not read, but not like it.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 30 June 2013 16: 36 New
            +1
            Quote: Very old
            RAVO, from some comments: not read, but not like it.

            PAVO and RAVO are two completely different names.
      5. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq 30 June 2013 16: 12 New
        +1
        Quote: Spade
        You read the article carefully

        Read his books, dear, if you are not cut off from his "logic", then it's time to sound the alarm ...
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 30 June 2013 16: 42 New
          0
          Of course I did. So what? I didn’t find any stupid things there.
  5. waisson
    waisson 30 June 2013 09: 13 New
    +5
    nothing new he said the boastful shtatovsky
    1. Denis
      Denis 30 June 2013 09: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: waisson
      boastful
      He, of course, is still the same ... but here you are enough about the henchman. He, although Mr., is their citizen. He was even the Secretary of State
  6. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 June 2013 09: 15 New
    -5
    Bzezhinsky will die soon .. there are no words ... I would have called him his name for fun at the border of the village ... heh heh .. To remember "Hatred of Russia" ...
  7. buzuke
    buzuke 30 June 2013 09: 16 New
    +3
    although he, and terry Russophobe, but a smart man, this can not be taken away. in many ways his position, incidentally, coincides with ours
    1. Very old
      Very old 30 June 2013 16: 24 New
      +1
      buzuke, this is what you saw the coincidence of positions? Z.B. made it clear: it’s necessary to crush Syria, but they went from the wrong flank. Here is his position, and yours?
      1. buzuke
        buzuke 30 June 2013 20: 51 New
        0
        I still don’t understand why - and this refers to my first answer - why we once decided in 2011 or 2012 (by coincidence it was an election year) that Assad should leave.

        I'm afraid we are moving in the direction of ineffective American intervention, which is even worse.

        Well, the general semantic load of answers lies in the plane of the idea that America does not need to go into this swamp and support the hell knows who. but I didn’t notice the promise to push Syria
  8. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 30 June 2013 09: 17 New
    11
    Quote: My advice was this: go there, knock out the Taliban, and then leave.
    How it all just works out for him. Well, they came to Afghanistan, twisted up there, threw "democratic" bombs, and they will leave. I would like to ask this mossy advisor: what have you, the United States, achieved in this country? The Taliban have been, and have remained, you have not solved a single task. Well, maybe they only helped to increase drug traffic. And the most important question: America, did you win in Afghanistan ???
    1. Che
      Che 30 June 2013 11: 34 New
      +2
      He advised the amers to do ugliness. After them, everything became very bad. Headless gringos.
    2. Very old
      Very old 30 June 2013 16: 27 New
      0
      Evgeny Ivanovich, I wonder at some of our forum users ...
  9. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 June 2013 09: 25 New
    +1
    He is a worthy enemy !!! I respect such.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 30 June 2013 12: 34 New
      +5
      Quote: MIKHAN
      He is a worthy enemy !!! I respect such.

      Judging by the awesome awesome, Presidential Freedom Medal for its role in normalizing Sino-US relations and for his contribution to human rights policy and US national security, we know his contribution to politics for human rights, that's just the question - what kind of people?
      The Order of the White Eagle from the Polish Republic for its contribution to the restoration of its independence, well, there is no word here, such a colorful Lyakh without the highest state award of Lyakhostan. No. .
      But from this award, the Order of Prince Yaroslav the Wise, III degree (Ukraine), I’m in complete support .. belay
      The great officer of the Three Star Order (Latvia, 15 of March 2007 of the year) - with this, everything is clear, Brzezinski is their Santa Claus. wassat .
      1. Very old
        Very old 30 June 2013 16: 30 New
        +1
        Vitenka, here RISE raised him to the shield, and you (such and such) reward count. DESERVED !!!
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 30 June 2013 17: 14 New
          +2
          Quote: Very old
          , then RISE raised him to the shield

          Valentine, hi ! The higher they raise, the more painful it is to fall, wassat !!! Especially if you throw three times and catch two times, laughing .
  10. gribnik777
    gribnik777 30 June 2013 09: 25 New
    +4
    America is a highly motivated, good country. It well-intentioned.
    .....................................
    Our country is a country with good intentions, but with poor knowledge and at the same time little sophisticated in world affairs.

    This is bent! I realized what I said!
    Echoes of insanity?
    1. buzuke
      buzuke 30 June 2013 10: 15 New
      0
      and what is the bend here? he said everything correctly. although their motives seem to be buggy mainly only to themselves
      1. gribnik777
        gribnik777 30 June 2013 12: 10 New
        +2
        Quote: buzuke
        and what is the bend here?


        Good intentions I did not observe them - they only cover their selfish interests with them, trying to dictate their conditions to everyone.
        "..with poor knowledge ..." remain for the second year, and they climb into the world hegemon.
        It turns out that, without knowing the multiplication tables, they climb into the chief accountant!
        This is the bend.
        1. buzuke
          buzuke 30 June 2013 13: 41 New
          +2
          Yes, they just have a puberty, like a nation. muscles and playfulness already exist, but brains, experience and wisdom have not yet been acquired, that sausages them. Amers as a nation are still carnival yet, they only have to be wiser. young man, too, believes that they are smarter than everyone, until life does not cut
  11. My address
    My address 30 June 2013 09: 35 New
    +3
    But Babam has no way back. Beautiful Republicans set him up! It will come out - they are the initiators, it will not come out - it is not suitable for use along with the Democrats. Can you get the brakes down? Do not tell your poodles in Geyroppa that they are jointly seeking adventure on their oppa.
  12. rus9875
    rus9875 30 June 2013 09: 40 New
    +7
    Of course, he is not a stupid person, even though he is our enemy, but he doesn’t understand that there can be no peaceful solution in Syria after two years of actual intervention - it’s too late. How interesting is he going to persuade Assad not to stand as a candidate in the next elections after he actually won the war? But in general, a significant moment is that even he realized that unconditional support for Israeli ambitions is not profitable for the United States itself. It looks like the states are going to merge Israel, but they have not yet figured out how to do it more cunningly in order to "save face"
  13. Taurus
    Taurus 30 June 2013 09: 58 New
    12
    One well-known and very professional psychiatrist said that schizophrenics put together such perfect logical chains of reasoning that it is almost impossible to break this chain, and the result is idiocy. What's the trick? And the thing is, the starting point is stupid. The point of departure of the arguments of the notorious "West" is idiotic. There is no democratic opposition. This is a myth. There are gangs of mercenary thugs. Most of them cannot read. They were dragged out of the jungle. What is democracy performed by America on the piano, who knows? why should it be planted in a square-nesting way and destroying countries and killing hundreds of thousands of people for this purpose? The point of departure of America's reasoning about universal democracy should be sought in a madhouse, in a ward for especially dangerous mentally ill
    1. Che
      Che 30 June 2013 11: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: Taurus
      There is no democratic opposition. This is a myth. There are gangs of mercenary thugs.

      And this myth continues to be touted and extolled. And these reptilians will still teach the whole world. Zbigniew sucks.
    2. Very old
      Very old 30 June 2013 16: 38 New
      0
      Mikhail, did the "lawyers" Z.B. read your commentary? our site? Here, I can imagine what a squeal they will turn at me
  14. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 June 2013 10: 03 New
    +7
    Quote: MIKHAN
    He is a worthy enemy !!! I respect such.

    Well, what are you minus ?? A man has his own point of view .. holds and is clever no words .. praise him .. Here swamp frogs croak jumping .. and all or take the current politicians well ridiculous everyone is slippery and corrupt .. Hugo Chavez I liked the charisma in him (right there soaked ..)
    1. Che
      Che 30 June 2013 11: 42 New
      +5
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Hugo Chavez I liked the charisma in him (immediately dunked ..)

      The CIA inherited, in this they became proficient. Fidel all tried to send to the other world. Ours are not allowed, thanks.
  15. Asgard
    Asgard 30 June 2013 10: 06 New
    11
    The translation of the words Zbignev is wrong)))
    What did I hear in this interview? First, they won’t leave Syria .... they’ll try to come up with and given the “slurred” help of the Russian and Chinese leaders, with 99% obviousness, what’s called the “West”, they will tear Syria ....... ... (by the way, this is Turkey kirdyk)))

    another interesting "thought" slipped through the words of "psheka" _the state of Israel '' '' drain '' 'already urges some number of' families' to leave that 'blessed' land ...

    Well, nuclear weapons in the hands of the Jews will serve as a catalyst ....

    this is what “reptiloid” said and I would take SERIOUSLY to his words ...
  16. 128mgb
    128mgb 30 June 2013 10: 13 New
    10
    (Laughs) I think you know the answer better than me, but if I can give a theory: America is a highly motivated, good country. She is guided by good intentions.
    (Laugh)
    The Holy Inquisition was also guided by good intentions.
  17. pamero
    pamero 30 June 2013 10: 14 New
    +4
    Amazingly friends, Brzezinski practically acknowledged the failure of his own world politics and the ideas that he promoted! Or this cunning Cossack is peacefully creeping into the bushes, agreeing that his country does not understand much in the world. This may mean one thing or they’re cunning, or they realized that they had long climbed into a strange monastery with their charter and it would be tight.
    And what started in Syria with the filing of Qatar and the Saudis, as he says because of the drought, is that he says for the housewives who know 6 cake recipes these are U.S. satellites and they do it by direct order from overseas (for money). Theory of controlled chaos is only in the minds of the United States. They do not understand what Arab civilization means! Lawrence of Arabia in the 19 century developed the sect of Islam (Wahhabis) from 28 people. In the 21 century in America, England, Germany, France, Russia, etc. they (Wahhabis) blow up houses and cut heads! Who agrees with my opinion?
    1. Very old
      Very old 30 June 2013 16: 50 New
      +2
      Vitaly (+), you read the top comments, you think so: guys, are you out of your mind? Smart, pragmatic, visionary, etc. There is no limit to rapture. And in the question they’re not just weak, just uneducated, the enemy must be smart, otherwise he’s zilch
  18. Alexander-Tomsk
    Alexander-Tomsk 30 June 2013 10: 16 New
    +7
    While reading the article, a thought arose.
    Americans and radical Israelis do not understand that chaos cannot last forever, human society organizes itself and sooner or later something new, much more dangerous and united, will emerge from this chaos - Arab society, state, movement. And when Jews see this new one, they will howl and will nostalgically recall the modern authoritarian leaders.
    In principle, Brzezinski speaks almost of this.
  19. Mikado
    Mikado 30 June 2013 10: 18 New
    +3
    Brzezinski? I just want to write "Are you getting in touch again, m .... oh?"
  20. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 30 June 2013 10: 24 New
    +2
    Our country is a country with good intentions

    But the trouble, as you know by good intentions, the road leading to a very bad place is paved.
    But if not respected Mr. Zbigniew Brzezinski insists, I think you should not stop him from going down this road.
  21. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 30 June 2013 10: 26 New
    +9
    Quote: MIKHAN
    He is a worthy enemy !!! I respect such.

    Hitler was also a clever man. Respect him? I do not compare Brzezinski with Hitler, the scale is not the same, but they are both nits and enemies. You can respect the opponent in the ring, but not enemies and u_b_l_yu_d_k_o_v who sow death or support them.
    1. Very old
      Very old 30 June 2013 16: 54 New
      0
      No. Neither one nor the other is stupid. Where did the choir singing glory come from? Iot these mummies STUPID and gave birth
  22. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 30 June 2013 10: 35 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander-Tomsk
    human society is self-organizing and sooner or later something new, much more dangerous and united, will emerge from this chaos - Arab society, state, movement.

    But this is unlikely. even though they are all Arabs there, they are too different Arabs. And at the same time they are the same. But if some peoples unite this sameness, it separates them. If they could unite, then a state like Israel would long ago cease to exist. The whole Arab world hates him, but they are not given to unite. The internal contradictions of the Arab states are always stronger than hatred of the Jews. In addition, apples of discord, lovingly grown overseas, are regularly thrown to them.
    1. Alexander-Tomsk
      Alexander-Tomsk 30 June 2013 14: 42 New
      0
      I did not mean all Arabs, mind you, he writes about the close neighbors of Israel. In particular, he mentions Shiites, and other currents of Islam.

      Shiite axis Iran-Iraq-Syria. He essentially speaks directly about this - such a neighbor to Israel is unnecessary, by their own actions they can directly reverse the effect they desire.
      1. dustycat
        dustycat 30 June 2013 16: 27 New
        0
        He says Israel doesn’t need the unbalanced Shiite axis of Iran-Iraq-Syria. And this is very likely.
  23. shinobi
    shinobi 30 June 2013 10: 48 New
    +1
    What would the Yankees calm down they need another Vietnam
    Whether China and the Russian Federation are ready to support Assad as in Vietnam is a big question.
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 30 June 2013 16: 21 New
      +5
      Here such parsley is tricky ..
      China finances the railway from Kazakhstan through Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, which is part of the railway project to Iran and further to Africa (I hope no one denies the African interests of China?). The opening of construction the other day was stormy and noisy these three countries celebrated by throwing a shovel of concrete.
      Iron railroad can of course be launched through the ferry crossing in the Strait of Hormuz and further launched in transit through the Emirates, but it is much more interesting to put it on land through Egypt.
      And this road goes through Syria. In Israel, they can build a branch too.
      But on the other hand, Iran in the region does not like a little less than Israel.
      And Iran Assad also does not like very much. He a little interferes with their imperial (yes, yes, Persians are all about his beloved) ambitions and does not particularly fit into them.
      And then Turkey is nearby, feeling that it is not that it is not respected in the region, but Turkish imperial manners somehow do not approve of Qatar or the UAE. Moreover, this route deprives Turkey of the proceeds from the smuggling of Iranian oil, while facilitating access to Iranian oil to both China and India.
      India (both Muslim and Buddhist) in this region has its own interest in the regional hegemon.
      In addition, there is Azerbaijan with its ambitions and the hope of a freebie to get a branch to itself from Tehran, although the Persians and their ambitions are very disliked.

      East is a delicate matter.
      And here two asses - elephants and donkeys - are trying to dance their foxtrot to the Israeli rhythm.
      While China is quietly still for Assad so far.
      Thinly everything is here.
  24. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 June 2013 10: 48 New
    +2
    Quote: MRomanovich
    Quote: MIKHAN
    He is a worthy enemy !!! I respect such.

    Hitler was also a clever man. Respect him? I do not compare Brzezinski with Hitler, the scale is not the same, but they are both nits and enemies. You can respect the opponent in the ring, but not enemies and u_b_l_yu_d_k_o_v who sow death or support them.

    In principle, I urge you to listen to such people and prepare for what they predict to us .. Hitler partially managed to do what he planned .. the Russian floor destroyed .. until we strangled him ... Now again the same crap is coming on .. That's all I wanted to say ... China doesn’t matter to Brazil, Canada, and so on. Nobody cares. They’re getting honey in Russia.
  25. Taurus
    Taurus 30 June 2013 10: 50 New
    0
    ))) Heh. I recalled a feature of one of the ancient sages: If by good intentions the road is paved to hell, then where is the road paved by bad intentions? And if you will repay good for evil, then what will you repay for good? .... Or is it Lucifer said ..
    1. sashka
      sashka 30 June 2013 11: 04 New
      -1
      Quote: Taurus
      Taurus RU

      Logically .. Wisely. Is there an answer? )))
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 30 June 2013 14: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: Taurus
        : If well intentioned
        If the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and vice versa - the stones are the same.
  26. andrei332809
    andrei332809 30 June 2013 10: 55 New
    +4
    surrenders the old cannibal. zbigi, truancy
  27. Muxauk
    Muxauk 30 June 2013 11: 00 New
    +8
    he is an intelligent man, but cries for it.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 30 June 2013 11: 11 New
      +4
      Quote: MuxaHuk
      he is an intelligent man, but cries for it.

      So yes ... Toko bullet, loop, guillotine, hole and others will be offended ...
  28. sashka
    sashka 30 June 2013 11: 03 New
    +6
    And whatever one may twirl and behind the back is always Israel .. This is obvious to everyone, but no one dares to say. Here are the "untouchables" and "blameless". Everything by someone else's hands and at someone else's expense ..
  29. Taurus
    Taurus 30 June 2013 11: 14 New
    0
    Quote: Sasha
    Quote: Taurus
    Taurus RU

    Logically .. Wisely. Is there an answer? )))

    There is no answer. Or I have already forgotten demonology.
    1. sashka
      sashka 30 June 2013 11: 32 New
      0
      Quote: Taurus
      There is no answer. Or I have already forgotten demonology.

      I see .. It's a pity. Very interesting..
  30. pensioner
    pensioner 30 June 2013 11: 26 New
    +1
    After Chopin, the pshek seems to have no one else to be proud of. except Brzezinski ...
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 30 June 2013 11: 39 New
      +2
      Do you think the Poles do not realize that this "national pride" does not give them a dime?
      That he will be the first to advocate the next section of the Rzecz Pospolita from sea to sea, if it is beneficial to the United States
  31. Apollo
    Apollo 30 June 2013 11: 30 New
    +7
    for me personally, the opinion of L. Ivashov is more authoritative than this fox of Brzezinski.

    I bring to your attention an interview with L. Ivashov.

    1. sashka
      sashka 30 June 2013 11: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: Apollon
      for me personally, the opinion of L. Ivashov is more authoritative

      In order to come to such conclusions, it is not necessary to create an Institute .. It is already clear and understandable. If you look at the news, this "mosaic" develops by itself. Simply there is a plan that nobody canceled. The meaning and purpose of all this "pro" movement, Russia. And we and Putin are being driven to a certain point. But here's a bummer, it turned out the world has changed and there is no other plan .. I have to fish in troubled water. Well, you can make money on this. As you know in the Russian proverb about muddy water ...
    2. Che
      Che 30 June 2013 11: 59 New
      +1
      Here are the results of the vile politics of the West. Organized a massacre in the country. Ivashov's weighted approach is much prettier to me than the zbigi reptiloid.
  32. fokino1980
    fokino1980 30 June 2013 11: 49 New
    +5
    Personally, I was struck and outraged by the following: 1) Both the journalist and old Pid ... of Polish descent, a senile, without any conventions discuss the situation in the whole region, as if it were Alabama. 2) rushing in words, they never remembered that behind all the actions of the United States and its allies in this region, death, blood pain and suffering of entire nations !!!! This is the new fascists !!! American society is now one in one German society in 1939. !!!! They don’t give a damn about everyone, I declare universal values, they violate them with cynicism! This is a very sick society! Western civilization is a threat to all of humanity !!!
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 30 June 2013 16: 00 New
      +1
      But nothing that we are doing the same? laughing
  33. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 30 June 2013 11: 55 New
    +4
    I heard several interesting things here:

    1) Brzhinsky considers himself an opposition to Obama
    2) He does not understand why the USA decided that Assad should leave
    3) Considers current White House strategists black scumbags, with chicken brains
    4) England and France consider hateful for Muslims by the colonialists
    5) Believes Israel Prepares Holocaust for Arabs

    6) the most important thing is that it calls on the west to refrain from invasion, from arming Syrian militants and the program says maximum to give Aasad to correct and take from him only a word will not be put forward for a new term ...

    7) acknowledges that the United States entered Afghanistan to correct its past mistakes by creating the Taliban, and says that they simply defeated it and leave as soon as possible so as not to repeat the mistakes of the Russians ...

    8) believes that Americans have low intelligence and worldview simplified

    well, if the USA has such an adviser further ... who understands who his nation, country and what should do ... it’s good that he is already old
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 30 June 2013 12: 00 New
      0
      Quote: KG_patriot_last
      Considers current White House strategists black scumbags, with chicken brains

      And in my opinion he rather despises them for stupidity.
      1. smile
        smile 30 June 2013 14: 04 New
        +2
        Lopatov
        Exactly. Moreover, he despises not only current strategists for stupidity, but Americans in general. Last year, in an interview, he said that a nation, a third of whose university graduates, having examined the map of the world, identifies the blue-colored Atlantic Ocean as an "unknown country" has no future. Feels with his sly old ass the coming troubles of the "world stronghold of democracy." And mind you, Zbyshek is no longer talking about how we will soon fall apart ... This is a good sign.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 30 June 2013 15: 55 New
          +2
          Yes, no, he is now on the contrary for us. He wants to make of Russia a shield between Western civilization and Islamic. Plus use as an anti-Chinese ram.
          1. smile
            smile 30 June 2013 17: 39 New
            +1
            Lopatov
            I agree. Lived Zbyshek .... :))))
  34. sashka
    sashka 30 June 2013 11: 57 New
    0
    Being on the other side of the Ocean it’s easy to move an anthill .. The world has changed. There are apparently not enough towers and Boston to put brains in place. Well, he himself admitted it .. what a madhouse Putin has to deal with ..
    1. Xnumx kopeek
      Xnumx kopeek 1 July 2013 03: 57 New
      0
      Towers? laughing the work of the CIA and Mossad, Proven 10 years ago. / not on the forums / -Boston -? - same story .-
      As someone said here, the tail twists the dog. - Let's just say - the burr tail twists the star-striped dog, and for a long time.
  35. bubla5
    bubla5 30 June 2013 12: 16 New
    -4
    I will not even read this freak, just koment
    1. maxcor1974
      maxcor1974 30 June 2013 14: 56 New
      +3
      That's the approach you have. In order to win, you need to know how your enemy thinks, in order to predict his course. And you will not read ... Why then do you write something at all. The worst thing in our country is incompetence. When people like you write and make decisions without knowing the essence of the matter. It’s not a sin to learn from smart enemies. Here's a historical example for you: remember how Peter the Great learned regular combat from the Swedes, took all the best from European tactics, added national color (irregular parts) to it and created an army that has become the strongest in Europe for a century). In order to win it is necessary to know the enemy, to know how he thinks. And you...
  36. Naval
    Naval 30 June 2013 12: 19 New
    +2
    An analogy comes to mind with the Roman Empire, which overstrained itself and could not digest what it grabbed, and as a result fell under the blows of the barbarians. As the well-known aphorism says: "Even with a big mouth, you have to bite a little, otherwise you will choke."
  37. romb
    romb 30 June 2013 12: 32 New
    +5
    I would not bow to Brzezinski so much. He prophesied a lot of things such that, contrary to his wishes and our actions, nothing happened. In the nineties, he predicted that (with high probability) Russia would break up into several separate states, which would be in a state of permanent conflict. And such a state as the Republic of Kazakhstan, in general, will not exist in the new millennium, because due to national and religious contradictions, which must necessarily arise between the main ethnic groups, quickly slide into a civil war with a further breakaway of the northern regions of the republic.
    But everything did not go as planned, and this is definitely pleasing.
    1. Alwizard
      Alwizard 30 June 2013 13: 28 New
      -1
      Only 10-15 years have passed since this "prediction", this is an extremely short period for such long-term processes as the merger and disintegration of states.
      1. romb
        romb 30 June 2013 14: 00 New
        +2
        Only 10-15 years have passed since this "prediction", this is an extremely short period for such long-term processes as the merger and disintegration of states.

        So he is in his V.Sh.D. just described the global processes that were supposed to happen in the near future, i.e. affected the time interval of ten years. At the same time, he relied on prerequisites that were already beginning to manifest themselves - the rule of EBN, separatist sentiments in the Caucasus, interethnic tension, economic collapse, a sharp social stratification of the population, etc.
        Just at a certain stage, the situation, contrary to their expectations, suddenly stopped worsening, then temporary stagnation followed with a gradual transition to a slow rise.
      2. smile
        smile 30 June 2013 14: 07 New
        +1
        Alwizard
        Rhombus is right-Zbyshek predicted the collapse in the coming years, which have already passed. He doesn’t stutter about it anymore — for ten years now, no less. By the way, from the moment of ventriloquism not 15 or ten, but almost a quarter of a century has passed.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 30 June 2013 15: 57 New
          +2
          Do not relax, they just drastically reduced the pressure on us. Because the situation in the world has changed a lot, and they need a holistic Russia.
  38. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 30 June 2013 12: 33 New
    +2
    Quote: MIKHAN
    In principle, I urge you to listen to these and prepare for the fact that they predict us ..

    I agree. No matter how vile Brzezhinsky and all his ilk are, they need to know how they think.
  39. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 30 June 2013 12: 42 New
    +4
    America is a highly motivated, good country. She is guided by good intentions. But it is also a country with an extremely simplified understanding of world affairs, with still great confidence in its ability to dominate, if necessary by force.

    Only the zombie dumb philistine believes in America’s good intentions, and those who rule America, including this vile liar Brzezinski, know that US aggression has only one motivation - robbery and parasitism.
    For the sake of this, Jewish bankers ruling in the United States are ready for massacres and for destroying the very foundation of the existence of mankind, the natural environment of the planet.
    If humanity does not stop these creatures, it will suffer a worse fate than the fate of North American Indians.
  40. knn54
    knn54 30 June 2013 12: 50 New
    +1
    -In Nicaragua, the risks were relatively small, given the dominant position of the United States in Central America and the absence of any serious access to this country from outside rivals.
    Well done against the sheep, and well done against the sheep.
    - ... those who made this decision succumbed to the idea shared by some right-wingers in Israel that the strategic plans of Israel are most responsible for destabilizing the situation in all countries - its closest neighbors ... The idea that even a very strong and motivated a country, but with a population of only six million people can control the whole region - this is nothing more than an extravagant dream.
    At the "holy" swung.
    - America is a highly motivated, good country. She is guided by good intentions.
    With good intentions, the road to hell is paved.
    Brzezinski is a smart and cunning enemy! It may be good (in particular, for Russia) that it is not he who determines US policy.
  41. family tree
    family tree 30 June 2013 13: 07 New
    +5
    America is a highly motivated, good country. She is guided by good intentions. But it is also a country with an extremely simplified understanding of the affairs of the world, with still great confidence in its ability to dominate, if necessary by force.Our country is a country with good intentions, but with poor knowledge and at the same time little sophisticated in world affairs.
    What is this? belay It was he who so politely, called Americans stupid, or what? what Diplomat however laughing
    1. smile
      smile 30 June 2013 14: 11 New
      +2
      family tree
      Yes, he has long suffered that the Americans, in his opinion, are ... so to speak, not very smart and intellectually developed. :)))) Sometimes it is very intolerant ... almost like Zadornov. :))) He’s worried, poor thing . :))))
  42. Avenger711
    Avenger711 30 June 2013 13: 09 New
    +2
    My advice was this: go there, knock out the Taliban, and then leave.


    How can you completely freeze such nonsense? The Taliban will hide, the amers will leave, any power planted by them will immediately fall.

    Our country is a country with good intentions, but with poor knowledge and at the same time little sophistication in world affairs.


    That is, a country that does not crawl out of war around the world itself does not understand what it is doing, or is this current leadership so insane?
  43. Makarov
    Makarov 30 June 2013 13: 22 New
    0
    The mouthpiece of America says the word: "... Our country is a country with good intentions, but with bad knowledge ..." (c) Of course taken out of context, but nevertheless))
  44. Semyon Albertovich
    Semyon Albertovich 30 June 2013 13: 23 New
    0
    "Everything has its time" - the time of the Cold War ideologists in that form has passed. And especially now Brzezinski's stupidity is visible - everything is checked by time (Russia has become stronger than the USSR).
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 30 June 2013 13: 48 New
      -2
      We should have at least one such "stupid"
  45. Alwizard
    Alwizard 30 June 2013 13: 27 New
    0
    It seems to me that it would be very convenient to mark the words of a journalist, for example, in bold, this improves the perception of the article.
  46. Kelnot
    Kelnot 30 June 2013 14: 37 New
    0
    "Our country is a country with good intentions, but with poor knowledge and at the same time little sophisticated in world issues."

    well, as always .. "Everything, I alone am D'Artagnan" ...
  47. homosum20
    homosum20 30 June 2013 14: 39 New
    0
    It is better to have a smart and strong enemy than a stupid and weak friend. It mobilizes. Makes themselves become smart and strong.
  48. krakozyabr777
    krakozyabr777 30 June 2013 14: 56 New
    +2
    Amerocosia famously burst. Not knowing the historical laws of development, they themselves dug a hole for themselves. Having collapsed the USSR, they rejoiced like children and thought everything, now they have won. In fact, they needed the USSR like air. The unipolar world is short-lived and the hegemonic country, over-straining, degrades and self-destructs. What has already happened many times in history. Destroying us, they provided us with a strategic service. Having freed itself from many unnecessary functions, a dead ideology and other things, which are ossified and hindering development, Russia, like a phoenix, is reborn from the ashes. It is being revived even stronger, renewed, with a new worldview and new, advanced capabilities. And parasitic americosia can only wish to die soon.
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 30 June 2013 15: 53 New
      +1
      That's it.
      Having collapsed the "tame" USSR, tamed under Khrushchev, they got an independent China with the second economy in the world with the first population. In fact, with the most powerful tax base in the world (after all, 90% of taxes are paid by those who work and receive the average salary in the country, even in the United States, that very 1% pays only 1% of US tax revenues).
      It was necessary to think more carefully.
      And now it is shining for them to get a "wild" Israel in an uncontrolled Middle East.

      They act like a donkey with an elephant in a mirror shop.
      As the saying goes, "The East is a delicate matter."
      More often they need to watch the full version of The White Sun of the Desert.
  49. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 30 June 2013 15: 19 New
    0
    It is pleasant to realize that such a "friend" of Russia gives advice that Mr. President must first think, and then do less emotions. We are not alone on earth. Russia is alive and will live.
  50. razved
    razved 30 June 2013 15: 27 New
    0
    The old bastard still can’t calm down ... Indeed, God always first takes the best, and all scum tramples the Earth for too long ...