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The latest radar will cover the sky of Moscow from four directions

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Four newest anti-aircraft radar stations, Vsevysotnyy Detector, arrived at the Aerospace Defense Forces, which, after being deployed, will cover the sky of the Russian capital from four directions, said Deputy Commander of the EKR for Air Defense, Major General Kirill Makarov.


The latest radar will cover the sky of Moscow from four directions


“These reconnaissance assets make it possible to detect airborne targets, including long-range cruise missiles. Their use will allow for timely detection and repulse of an enemy air strike if necessary, ”said Makarov at the celebration of the 60 anniversary of the 5 Brigade of the Air Defense Forces of the East Kazakhstani Army, ITAR-TASS reports.

According to him, within the next five years, all units of the Air Defense and Missile Defense Command will be equipped with new radars. He also noted that the main task of the command is to protect Moscow and the Central Industrial Region of the country, to cover the highest level objects of state and military control, industry and energy, groups of armed forces and transport communications from strikes from aerospace.

"Every day, the on-duty forces of the Air Defense and Anti-missile Defense Command of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces conduct radar detection and tracking of aircraft up to 800," according to materials distributed to journalists.

Earlier it was reported that the Ministry of Defense plans to create on the territory of Russia a network of over-the-horizon radar stations (ZGRLS) of the long-range detection Container, which will work in the interests of the Russian Air Force.

Such a network in a short time will cover the entire territory of Russia with a radar field and will allow reconnaissance of airspace even beyond its borders. Creating an inseparable radar field will allow the Air Force Command to quickly receive information about enemy aircraft in the event of an air attack or in preparation for it.

The uniqueness of Container stations lies in the fact that they can, in the direct sense of the word, “look” beyond the horizon. For the air defense system, this possibility plays a key role.
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  1. waisson
    waisson 30 June 2013 06: 10 New
    11
    and asetaki don’t say it, but new equipment goes to the troops. and it pleases
    1. Mitek
      Mitek 30 June 2013 08: 57 New
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      Quote: waisson
      and asetaki don’t say it, but new equipment goes to the troops. and it pleases

      Of course it pleases. But it is necessary to cover not only Moscow, but also central Russia. And there are so many different industries that you don’t need to shoot around Moscow ... bomb a dozen chemical plants around. The work is still certainly not endless. Holes over Siberia, the Arctic should be protected from shit democracy.
    2. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 30 June 2013 12: 11 New
      0
      Quote: waisson
      and asetaki don’t say it, but new equipment goes to the troops. and it pleases


      Yes, but there is one caveat. Amer has long been put on a missile defense agreement so why does the Russian Federation build missile defense only around Moscow?
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 30 June 2013 13: 13 New
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        Quote: Geisenberg
        Why does the Russian Federation build missile defense only around Moscow?

        Probably at first they decided to cover the head with a "helmet", and only then the rest of the armor (in the order of arrival of armor and chain mail) to the regions was "hung".
        Another thing is important: serious preparations are underway to repel an aerospace attack on the country. And according to the aerospace defense doctrine, the first "stunning" strike should be applied to the objects of the highest echelon of state and military administration, practically simultaneously with it, a "blinding" strike on the AES-r, RTR, the early warning system, then a "disarming" strike on ICBMs, RPKSN, YES - weapons of retaliation.
        Putin is trying to do everything so that 41 does not happen again.
  2. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 30 June 2013 06: 21 New
    +8
    This is encouraging news, but it distorts reality unfortunately
    Four newest anti-aircraft radar stations, Vsevysotnyy Detector, arrived at the Aerospace Defense Forces, which, after being deployed, will cover the sky of the Russian capital from four directions, said Deputy Commander of the EKR for Air Defense, Major General Kirill Makarov.

    rather, it means only strengthening the detection and warning system. And air defense and missile defense systems should cover the sky, new models of which are still few.
    "Every day, the on-duty forces of the Air Defense and Anti-missile Defense Command of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces conduct radar detection and tracking of aircraft up to 800," according to materials distributed to journalists.

    The journalists of the primary source, as always, "waved a dusty bag."
    And now I will get cons for my comment ...
    1. My address
      My address 30 June 2013 07: 07 New
      +4
      And the evil you sozobachu maximum benefits!
      Little C-400-x, but not one. And not only Moscow must be defended. But it is pleasant disbelief in implosion of Saxon (not my expression) peacefulness.
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 30 June 2013 13: 21 New
        +4
        Quote: My address
        disbelief in the arrogant Saxon

        I apologize: but it will be more true - NAGLO-SAKSKY - because SAXONIAN - this is for deutschers. And they, it seems, are restrained about amers and for the most part do not like small-shavens. That's for sure.
    2. Airman
      Airman 30 June 2013 11: 17 New
      +4
      "Every day, the on-duty forces of the Air Defense and Anti-missile Defense Command of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces conduct radar detection and tracking of aircraft up to 800," according to materials distributed to journalists.


      The duty forces must detect and escort ALL aircraft on the territory of the Russian Federation, so that the number 800 from the crafty one, even in the Moscow zone during the day, the number of aircraft is several times more.
  3. mogus
    mogus 30 June 2013 06: 44 New
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    ZGRLS "Container",
    developed by scientific
    production
    complex "Research Institute of Distant
    radio communications "(NPK" NIIDAR ").
    General Designer of the enterprise Sergey
    Saprykin reported
    to reporters: "This is a new
    overseas generation
    stations. Such radar
    detect any plane, everything that moves,
    starting from overclocking to
    the runway and further into
    all airspace
    at the range of the first
    horizontal jump at a distance of up to 3000
    kilometers. "According to him, Saprykin,
    capabilities of the "Container" radar
    allow you to track even
    small aircraft. "I
    himself sitting in Mordovia on
    the receiving position of such a station, watched as
    Dutch pilots study
    fly on small
    sports aircraft ", -
    he said. General Designer
    NPK 'NIIDAR' Sergey
    Dmitrievich Saprykin Radiated by such a station
    the radio signal is reflected from
    ionosphere and leaves for
    horizon. "Such stations
    "shine" up, signal
    reflected from the ionosphere as from a mirror and thus
    can see that
    going over the horizon.
    Due to the fact that the signal
    reflected once, i.e.
    makes just one jump, we can get enough
    accurate radar
    indication "- said
    general designer. He recalled that earlier in
    USSR applied
    over-the-horizon radar "Duga",
    whose range
    reached 10 thousand
    kilometers. They were meant for
    missile launch detection with
    US territory. However, according to
    According to a specialist, such
    stations did not allow for sure
    determine the coordinates of the launch due to the fact that the beam
    fought several times about
    ionosphere. "There were gigantic
    antennas of huge power.
    We discovered the start, and
    in order to determine
    where does the rocket fly
    needed to improve
    available radars ", - said
    general designer. He noted
    what's the function now
    over-the-air radars in the system
    missile warning
    space echelon in
    satellite
    groupings. "Return to such
    long-range
    overseas stations like
    "Doug" now
    impractical
    space echelon performs the task
    detecting ICBM launches. But
    here is the task at the first jump
    on air targets
    no space
    the train will not fulfill, then radars with one
    leap and opportunity
    accurate detection ", -
    concluded Saprykin. 0

    http://maxpark.com/community/4489/content/2032503
    1. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 30 June 2013 08: 54 New
      +4
      ZGRLS "Container",
      developed by scientific
      production
      complex "Research Institute of Distant
      radio communications "(NPK" NIIDAR ").
      General Designer of the enterprise Sergey
      Saprykin reported
      to reporters: "This is a new


      Here is more on the history of http://www.litmir.net/br/?b=110246&p=88

      "Battle in the ionosphere" Babakin.

      Reading about the many facts of the development of domestic weapons
      make sure that the most important gift of the Minister of Defense is the GIFT OF Predictions! And this is not very good.
      1. gregor6549
        gregor6549 30 June 2013 17: 32 New
        +1
        The main gift of the Minister of Defense, as well as of any other high-level leader, is the ability to select and arrange competent personnel (rather than crooks and embezzlers), the ability to listen to the opinions of these personnel, make decisions and bear responsibility for them. Example I.V. Stalin, L.P. Beria, etc.
        And when someone puts a tradesman in the position of Minister of Defense, who surrounds himself with the same traders, in other words, rogues and embezzlers, even without a trace of foresight, you can guess where this team will lead the army and everything connected with it.
        And here the question arises. And who is responsible for the "selection and placement" of such a "frame"? He didn’t sit in the minister’s chair himself, and he didn’t sit there for days. Or is it like Caesar's wife, who is beyond suspicion by definition?
        So in this case, the newest radars are issued for a long time ago developed in Zaporozhye and somewhat obsolete radars. All the same, promises to do something "super duper" in the next ... for many years on paper, b while the enemy (likely, of course) is riveting with might and main in the metal really new equipment, including radar, rolls it in real combat conditions and persistently teaches the army to own it, technology.
        Even Rogozin recently publicly admitted that this enemy within 6 hours may well deprive Russia of the ability to effectively resist Not days, not weeks, not months and years, but hours.
        Rogozin, of course, is not a military man, but he is well informed and competent to make such statements not from a "bully" but competently.
        Whether the former Minister of Emergency Situations and now the Minister of Defense Shoigu is so competent (with all due respect to him as a person and an organizer), is still a big question. Still, the specifics of the activities of the Ministry of Emergency Situations and its subordinate units "somewhat" differ from the specifics and equipment of the Ministry of Defense and the Armed Forces of Russia.
    2. Airman
      Airman 30 June 2013 20: 13 New
      +1
      [quote = mogus] [quote] ZGRLS "Container",
      developed by scientific
      production
      complex "Research Institute of Distant
      radio communications [/ quote]


      And what does the over-the-horizon radar have to do with it, when it comes to the BBO (all-altitude detector) 96L6E. These radars are designed to operate in the S-300 complex. We are only talking about placing on the DB 7 over-the-horizon radars. Faster they would be put.
      1. mogus
        mogus 1 July 2013 04: 53 New
        0
        Earlier it was reported that the Ministry of Defense plans to create a network of overseas in Russia
        Container early warning radars (ZGRLS), which will work in the interests of the Russian Air Force. Such a network in a short time will cover the entire territory of Russia with a radar field and will allow for reconnaissance of airspace even beyond its borders. Creating inextricable
        the radar field will allow the Air Force command to quickly receive information about enemy aircraft in the event of an air attack or at the stage of preparation for it. The uniqueness of the “Container” stations lies in the fact that they can literally “glance” over the horizon. For the air defense system, such an opportunity plays a key role.
  4. Bokdan1700
    Bokdan1700 30 June 2013 06: 51 New
    +3
    Good. It is necessary to "cover" the whole of Russia!
  5. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 June 2013 07: 00 New
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    Quote: Bokdan1700
    Good. It is necessary to "cover" the whole of Russia!

    Maybe it's better to open Moscow on the contrary ??? there’s too much that has concentrated .. You look around Russia to decompose everything evenly .. (joke)))
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 June 2013 07: 08 New
      +8
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Maybe it's better to open Moscow on the contrary ??

      This is a good proposal, but I'm afraid it won't be supported in Moscow, all the moneybags and "cream" (waste) of society have gathered there.
      1. mogus
        mogus 30 June 2013 09: 03 New
        +2
        how to say ... Now I watched local news, Mironov came, offers 50% of the fees from MAPP Zabaykalsk to leave in the region.
        In the 90s, Manchuria is adobe houses, now (just type Manchuria in Yandex-pictures, but it’s better not to look at Zabaikalsk). Between Transbaikal and Manchuria only 10 km.
        What can be the development of the regions if they take 3/4? But deciding to descend from the Moscow peaks, they decided 50/50 ...
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 30 June 2013 16: 11 New
          0
          W ..... whether with jokes about Moscow. Maybe it's better first in your places e..lo? Want a capital in the Urals? Take it along with all the accompanying crap. I will only be glad.
          1. mogus
            mogus 30 June 2013 17: 17 New
            0
            Jokes !?
            http://izvestia.ru/news/549532
            http://gefsimany.com/?p=2842
            Study!
            1. fzr1000
              fzr1000 30 June 2013 20: 37 New
              +1
              And I will not think to study any .... I was born here, like my parents. And for human complexes and just stupidity, I do not answer.
              1. mogus
                mogus 1 July 2013 04: 49 New
                0
                and that's why we "love" you Muscovites very much. I quote:
                Speaker of the Federation Council
                invited the president
                relocate headquarters
                largest state-owned companies in
                regions. Putin's idea
                I liked it. Speaker
                Of the Federation Council is sure
                what if giants like
                Gazprom, Russian Railways, Bashneft,
                will not deduct taxes
                Moscow, and in the Russian outback, it will become big
                help budgets
                regions. Many of
                constituent entities of the
                according to Matvienko, now
                barely cope with social
                obligations without saying
                already about launches
                infrastructure projects. So, Gazprom Matvienko
                offers to transfer to
                Tyumen, Bashneft - from
                Moscow to Ufa, Inter Rao -
                to Kaliningrad, Rosneft
                - to Siberia. She suggested moving the office of Russian Railways -
                to the Urals, where they should, in her
                opinion move and
                "Russian Technologies", and
                RusHydro Valentina
                Matvienko identified in Krasnoyarsk. - Translation of head offices
                will provide a different quality
                people's lives development
                education
                health care. it
                real social elevator for young people from
                outback, - defended his
                proposal Matvienko.
                - Everyone wants to be closer to
                Moscow, live on Rublevka, -
                she sighed. - They say that
                managers will not want to. But
                the good ones will want! In the outback
                and the air is cleaner. Heads of regional
                meetings supported the idea
                noting that she will give a push
                the development of many areas. I liked the offer and
                To Vladimir Putin— The only question is
                don't do it abruptly and don't
                to expose the treasury of Moscow itself,
                - he said. - At Moscow
                have your own plans, including
                investment development plans, and dramatically simple
                take and cut them off these
                financial flows is
                means to create real
                problems in the capital. But that,
                that you need to move in this direction is
                absolutely for sure. It was clear that
                attending the meeting
                Moscow City Duma speaker
                Vladimir Platonov idea
                did not like, even though he
                and tried to save face.
                Also at the meeting
                Valentina Matvienko
                lamented that some of
                regions with difficulty
                cope with implementation
                May presidential decrees. They understand the need
                salary increase
                state employees, execution
                social obligations.
                However money for others
                they have almost no projects left. - In a number of regions, expenses
                salary budget
                reach 80% and not at all
                funds left on
                construction of kindergartens, -
                states Matvienko. In this regard, she offers
                change existing
                proportions
                co-financing
                regions and federal
                the center of a number of projects. In particular, reduce the size
                deductions of regions on
                resettlement of citizens from
                dilapidated and emergency housing
                (now most of
                local budgets must pay).
                The Kremlin promised to think.
                Offers Matvienko
                change and rules
                program financing
                Housing Orphans - to the Feds and
                the regions paid equally, and
                not 20 and 80% respectively
                like now.
                1. fzr1000
                  fzr1000 2 July 2013 14: 43 New
                  0
                  So what? Here are the complaints to the leaders of these companies, which, of course, are "all Muscovites" and present. I don't need these offices and so on in Moscow. Take it.
  6. My address
    My address 30 June 2013 07: 00 New
    0
    What do you like, develop air defense systems and missile defense. The Kremlin does not believe brazenly-Saxons. More and gold return from them ...
  7. Zomanus
    Zomanus 30 June 2013 07: 04 New
    +4
    Throughout the Russian Federation this needs to be set. And still that target designation would issue immediately.
  8. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 June 2013 07: 35 New
    +7
    The capital needs to be moved to the Urals to the center of Russia! Then Russia will be exactly all covered up .. and invincible .. fantasized a bit .. hehe
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 30 June 2013 08: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: MIKHAN
      The capital needs to be moved to the Urals to the center of Russia! Then Russia will be exactly all covered up .. and invincible .. fantasized a bit .. hehe

      I propose to do better: move the capital to a new place every 5 years. Well then ...
      1. Canep
        Canep 30 June 2013 08: 35 New
        +9
        Quote: retired

        I propose to do better: move the capital to a new place every 5 years. Well then ...

        Then, after the 1st transfer, the salaries of state employees and the military will again have nothing to pay. But how many apartments in Moscow will be vacated. And in Kazakhstan, prices for yurts will jump, because nomads (i.e. the government) will need housing adapted for a nomadic lifestyle.
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 30 June 2013 09: 34 New
          0
          Quote: Canep
          And in Kazakhstan, prices for yurts will jump, because nomads (i.e. the government) will need housing adapted for a nomadic lifestyle.


          And I find myself also in the neighboring states of the capital I was going to transfer ... None of my scope! If you think - so global !!
          1. Canep
            Canep 30 June 2013 12: 18 New
            0
            I wrote about the Russian government. They will become nomads. laughing And they will be forced to buy yurts in Kazakhstan.
            1. pensioner
              pensioner 30 June 2013 13: 25 New
              +1
              Ahhhhhhh !! Got it! fool This means a flaw ... In Kazakhstan, too! You already have experience .. With Ukraine it’s generally simple: Kiev - Donetsk - Kiev ... There are a lot of 3 capitals to the Baltic states. It seems to have forgotten nobody ...
              1. Canep
                Canep 30 June 2013 13: 53 New
                0
                Astana will be completed, a new president will come and you can move. laughing (I hope this will not come to that) And the Baltic states and one capital will soon have a lot.
                1. pensioner
                  pensioner 30 June 2013 14: 03 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Canep
                  And the Baltic states and one capital will soon be many.

                  This is for sure !!
                2. pensioner
                  pensioner 30 June 2013 14: 48 New
                  0
                  Quote: Canep
                  a new president will come and you can move. (I hope this does not come to this)

                  Well, the health of ANAS is excellent. So, Astana will last 50 years. But we are not ...
        2. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 30 June 2013 09: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: Canep
          But how many apartments in Moscow will be vacated. And in Kazakhstan, prices for yurts will jump, ...

          The experience of Kazakhstan shows that they will not be free. As Alma-Ata was the real capital, it remained. Moreover, the reasons for the transfer were different. But Nazarbayev radically approached this issue. When the ministries were transferred, ministers were transferred, and the entire apparatus was to be recruited in the new capital. I will not argue, but it seems that none of the officials who started working in the new capital sold an apartment in Alma-Ata. They just started to fly home for the weekend.
          1. Canep
            Canep 30 June 2013 12: 28 New
            -1
            The population of Astana has increased 15 times over 2,5 years and is still growing at a faster pace. If the National Academy of Sciences poked at the very center of the Semipalatinsk test site and transferred the capital there, now there would have been a half-million city there. This population in Astana was not born but moved from other cities. In particular, from Karaganda (the population has decreased significantly) and Almaty (the population has decreased slightly). When moving, housing was vacant there, although it was occupied (bought) by migrants from villages.
      2. My address
        My address 30 June 2013 09: 22 New
        +1
        Hi, Yuri!

        A sensible thought. It is believed that a person should be moved to a new job in 4-7 years. Otherwise, "rubbing in" and sense of zero or less. And how is the capital different?
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 30 June 2013 09: 27 New
          +1
          Hello Alexander! Maybe it’s true .. But if it were not for "perestroika", then no matter where I had not left my institute, I would not have looked aside. Just found a job to my liking! And on you ... And it began ...
          1. My address
            My address 30 June 2013 09: 44 New
            +2
            And who interfered with 5 for years to give you another direction in your in-those? And through 5, back with your new views on the old problems?

            And if you still have to change lab technicians ..., yes, get a chemical laboratory with retorts and other distillery (not car) means ..., and under the windows an apple orchard for calvados ... But everything is in moderation!
            1. pensioner
              pensioner 30 June 2013 10: 07 New
              +2
              Alexander! After 5 years, a castrated kitten remained from my institute, a giant in industrial science. Without everything. I went to a military school. The institute had to go to the URO RAS. As a distant poor relative ... And we had windows in the garden !! In Kazakhstan, the city of Rudny ... And also Stary Oskol, Poltava, Krivoy Rog ... There were no problems with apples ... As with northern fish ... Salmon for example ...
          2. pensioner
            pensioner 30 June 2013 10: 09 New
            0
            Quote: retired
            I went to a military school. The Institute had to go to the Ural Branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

            I read - it became funny! Here I am so cool! Because of me, the institutes are closing !!
    2. waisson
      waisson 30 June 2013 08: 38 New
      0
      good correctly noticed (you’ll take a closer look closer) and even guest workers can find work there on the development of the Trans-Ural lands, you see and the central cities will be estranged from them
  9. treskoed
    treskoed 30 June 2013 08: 29 New
    +1
    In addition to the technique, it is necessary to develop new rules for calculating behavior in critical situations, because at one time Rust was discovered in a timely manner, monitored the flight and brought to Moscow itself!
    1. omsbon
      omsbon 30 June 2013 09: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: treskoed
      it is necessary to develop new rules for the behavior of calculations in critical situations

      Announce and warn about the new rules, all "friends and partners" to know and not be offended if they are knocked down.
      It seems to me that in the story of the Korean Boeing, the leadership of the Soviet Union in vain denied the fact of the downing of the plane, on the contrary it was necessary to immediately say that they shot down and still knock down any plane that flies to us and refuses to obey.
  10. omsbon
    omsbon 30 June 2013 09: 09 New
    0
    Of course, much has been done to improve the country's defense capabilities, but more needs to be done. After all, the Motherland is not only Moscow, but the whole country!
  11. aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 June 2013 09: 12 New
    +1
    The time will come, they will close the whole territory of Russia.
  12. gregor6549
    gregor6549 30 June 2013 09: 54 New
    +3
    Of course, "all-altitude" sounds cool, but in reality it is the usual radar for all-round viewing of the centimeter wavelength range with mechanical rotation of the antenna in the azimuth plane and electronic scanning of the meadow in the elevation, and not the best radar available at the moment. (In particular, a similar radar from the C300 / C400 is much better in terms of its performance characteristics). Further. When using the see wavelength range, physics cannot be fooled and it is unlikely that it will be possible to detect targets flying below the p / l horizon. And when they appear within the detection zone of a given radar, it may be too late to react to them. Such a radar also has limitations on the detection of air targets with a ballistic cast, tk. it is also impossible to provide 90 degree scanning in elevation using flat antenna arrays. God forbid at least 60 degrees. Therefore, only the creation of a continuous multi-band radar field with multiple overlapping of the detection zones of individual radars could solve the problem with holes in this field. Over-the-horizon radars are also a thing in themselves, tk. the accuracy of determining the coordinates by this type of radar plus or minus bast shoes. In addition, this accuracy, like the detection range, is highly dependent on the parameters of the atmosphere and ionosphere. Those. it is necessary to continuously measure these parameters with separate measuring instruments and make appropriate adjustments to the radar image processing algorithms in order to obtain more or less suitable data. And the last thing. The Moscow air defense zopna was always provided with equipment and everything else to the maximum. But the question has always been and is now what and how to "plug the holes" in the airspace above the rest of the territory of Russia. And the answer to this question was not received even in the era of "the heyday of stagnation" when neither money nor energy was spared for these purposes
  13. rus9875
    rus9875 30 June 2013 10: 10 New
    +5
    When in the 70s they signed an ABM treaty, it contained a clause allowing both countries to cover with a deeply echeloned ABM system in one area in the country. The Americans then covered the military base of strategic missiles and we - Moscow, obviously believing that nothing is more important than ours the country does not have the same approach, and now, although we have many goals that are much more attractive for attack - to take at least the ground storage of weapons-grade uranium and plutonium near Chelyabinsk (sold for pennies to the Americans Gorbachev, but still stored in Russia) - in the case of falling into it a pair of cruise missiles half the country will become a radioactive desert, and it will really be the center of the country, unlike Moscow, whatever Muscovites would think about themselves. In general, it seems that the missile defense around Moscow is necessary to protect it not from an external enemy, but to protect it from the rest of its own country. Although it seems Moscow has long been no longer Russia. Maybe it's time to move the capital somewhere to Urals in a really RUSSIAN city?
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 30 June 2013 11: 08 New
      +3
      You are right at 200%. I would not put a missile defense belt in Moscow, but in Gadzhievo and Gremikha. These are our SSBN and SSBN bases, who do not know.
      1. eagle11
        eagle11 30 June 2013 16: 06 New
        +1
        the city of Ostrovnoy (Gremikha) long dead
    2. fzr1000
      fzr1000 30 June 2013 16: 18 New
      0
      Muscovites, unlike you, think nothing of themselves. Take away to the south your capital, even to the Urals, even to the Far East, if you can’t live in peace without it. You look, all this foam and scum will move there. It will become better to live and breathe.
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 30 June 2013 22: 36 New
        -1
        Che minus something? Are you afraid of the move of our cesspool?
  14. tnk1969
    tnk1969 30 June 2013 10: 38 New
    0
    Now we need to think about placing the "Container" in Cuba. As one of the elements of countering the missile defense of the United States and its allies in Europe. And in Kamchatka or Sakhalin.
  15. Andrey77
    Andrey77 30 June 2013 10: 53 New
    +1
    But is it not better to protect the bases of the submarines of the SF? No, all the forces are in defense of Moscow ... My dear capital, my guest-bitter Moscow ... Around Moscow, and so, half of the air defense costs.
  16. Tot-enot
    Tot-enot 30 June 2013 11: 13 New
    +1
    But this news is much more important than it seems!
    Until now, over-the-horizon radars were cumbersome and could not give accurate target designation, while conventional ones have a short range primarily because of the radio horizon. If you were able to create a compact, mobile over-the-horizon radar capable of directing air defense systems like the S 400, then this is a small revolution in air defense !!!!!!
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 30 June 2013 11: 18 New
      +1
      The laws of physics have not been canceled. The revolution is canceled, alas. ;) The compact cannot be created.
    2. Airman
      Airman 30 June 2013 19: 58 New
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      Quote: Tot-Enot
      But this news is much more important than it seems!
      Until now, over-the-horizon radars were cumbersome and could not give accurate target designation, while conventional ones have a short range primarily because of the radio horizon. If you were able to create a compact, mobile over-the-horizon radar capable of directing air defense systems like the S 400, then this is a small revolution in air defense !!!!!!


      Nobody will lead anyone! Data from the radar will be transmitted to the CP, and from there the targets will be distributed, some sort of aviation, other air defense missile systems.
  17. Konsmo
    Konsmo 30 June 2013 11: 18 New
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    Why are bases not protected? There, tickets for the tour are sold and Boeing flies to take a photo of the tourists to give from a height.
    Everything is gradually being done. It is not a fact that the old Moscow systems will not get to the north after the upgrade.
    Therefore, they protect their new citizens with new ones (under 20 million with the region) under 30 with guest workers yes
    But the submarines themselves should terrify our best customers. Even if a couple of pieces at sea, they go out at the same time.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 30 June 2013 11: 27 New
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      Protected from aircraft, but not from missiles. The S-200 is a good car against the F-18 and civilian liners, but against the tomahawks it is useless.
  18. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 30 June 2013 11: 23 New
    +2
    Quote:The creation of an inextricable radar field will allow the Air Force command to quickly receive information about enemy aircraft in the event of an air attack or at the stage of preparation for it. The daunting task. It was not completely resolved even during the Soviet Union. This is especially true for areas of the Far North and the Arctic. A continuous radar field throughout Russia will allow us to successfully build our air defense and protect the strategic interests of our country.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 30 June 2013 11: 32 New
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      It is not solved by any country in the world. Mastering the budget.
  19. Ram chandra
    Ram chandra 30 June 2013 11: 41 New
    0
    That everything is straightforward - in a hurry they are getting ready for a mess right now .. US plans have spoiled f-35/22.
  20. Vtel
    Vtel 30 June 2013 15: 44 New
    +1
    the main task of the command is to protect Moscow and the Central Industrial Region of the country, to cover top-level state and military administration facilities

    So scatter enti objects in different regions, and not at one Moscow feeder to keep, Schaub did not cover, at the same time and cover the rest and considerable Russia.
  21. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 30 June 2013 16: 37 New
    +1
    The essence of over-horizon location is reduced to one jump (reflection of the wave) from the ionosphere. Conclusion: remove the mirror and no one will see your crooked face. How to do it? Yes, it’s very simple: a) a high-altitude nuclear explosion, b) a HARM installation ... And the problem is solved. I think our egg-headed nerds also thought about this prospect. But it is really necessary to strengthen the aerospace defense by increasing the space grouping of our satellites. And then you’ll argue about the quantitative composition and want to cry.
    1. rpek32
      rpek32 1 July 2013 00: 14 New
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      before harp there was also an ARFA project, a similar project was developed in the Soviet Union, I don’t remember the name unfortunately.
  22. rpek32
    rpek32 30 June 2013 18: 49 New
    +2
    In addition to Moscow, there is still Russia
  23. Tambov we ...
    Tambov we ... 30 June 2013 19: 31 New
    -1
    All the current infection comes from Moscow - a hotbed of glamor, consisting of the first scum and traitors and state departments, which are the root of corruption.
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 30 June 2013 20: 57 New
      -1
      Yeah, considering that Kasparov is from Baku, and Nemtsov is from N. Novogorod, Sobchak is from St. Petersburg, Comedy Club is also a hz. whence it comes mainly, then everything comes from Moscow ... write ischo.
      1. soldier's grandson
        soldier's grandson 30 June 2013 22: 28 New
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        in Moscow they become like that
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 30 June 2013 22: 34 New
          +1
          Schaz, the foundations of education are laid in a family up to 12 years old ...
        2. Furnace driver
          Furnace driver 1 July 2013 19: 23 New
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          more often flies like flies on ...
  24. individual
    individual 30 June 2013 20: 14 New
    +1
    All the evils of society have gathered in Moscow and they do not understand life in the Russian regions.
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 30 June 2013 20: 38 New
      +1
      Yeah, all r ... but from Russia and the CIS is drawn to Moscow, and normal people less and less. That's for sure. So there’s nothing to blame for the mirror ....
  25. individual
    individual 30 June 2013 21: 29 New
    +3
    Yes. you are right in Moscow gathers all the foam and sediment of Russia and the CIS, adventurers of all stripes. Normal people are everywhere, but they are busy with business, survival, and they are not visible against the background of the "successful beau monde of crooks."
    Not having lived a year in Moscow, they declare themselves "MOSKVACHI".
  26. darksoul
    darksoul 30 June 2013 22: 18 New
    +1
    The fact of introducing a new combat unit is always pleasing, it’s just back to Moscow, Moscow is golden-headed and what is Russia? You say Moscow is also Russia ..... yes, but in terms of living, in relation to the regions as a separate state
  27. Skifo
    Skifo 30 June 2013 23: 39 New
    +1
    The news is good and expected - nevertheless, it’s time for a long time to master new equipment ... They are starting from Moscow, and then they will close the borders, although there are many new radars all over Russia! But how reliable is the equipment?
  28. I.G.O.R.
    I.G.O.R. 1 July 2013 00: 59 New
    +1
    I am glad! Down and Out trouble started!!!
  29. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 1 July 2013 08: 32 New
    0
    And that’s good, and that’s right!