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BAE successfully tested the high-precision MS-SGP projectile from the MK45 Mod 4 cannon.

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BAE Systems and United Technologies Corporation conducted full-scale tests of a unified guided projectile (MS-SGP, Multi-Service Standard Guided Projectile) at the White Sands missile range in New Mexico, USA.

During a test-controlled flight, an MS-SGP projectile, released from a BAE-made 5-inch sea gun MK45 Mod 4, confirmed the design characteristics to meet all the test objectives.

In addition, the tests confirmed the tactical capabilities of MS-SGP to carry out the firing range in 38 km.

MS-SGP was developed as a single projectile for the US military and its allies designed to defeat fixed or moving targets at a cost less than the cost of existing alternatives.

Chris Hughes, vice president and general manager of BAE Systems Weapon Systems, said that the United States and its allies are currently using more expensive solutions to provide fire support and defeat tactical targets.

"This projectile will allow us to equip American troops with long-range, high-precision ammunition at an affordable price, which will significantly expand our fire support capabilities," Hughes added.

Designed to greatly enhance the capabilities of the US Marine Corps and Army Corps, MS-SGP has a range of almost 100 km with an accuracy of less than 5-m, and also improves the capabilities of the US Navy MK45 guns.

The MK45 Mod 4 is a reinforced weapon and installed subsystems, advanced fire control system improvements, a touch user interface and a gun shield that requires minimal maintenance.

The improved 2 Mod design, a 62 long caliber trunk can also increase the fire support capabilities of surface ships (Naval Surface Fire Support, NSFS) and the general characteristics of the mission.

In total, MS-SGP has passed more than 110 subsystem tests and field shooting from the USN MXXUMX towed howitzer is scheduled for the next couple of months. BAE supplies the MK777 guns for the US Navy and the fleets of nine other states deployed on more than 45 ships.
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  1. Atrix
    Atrix 1 July 2013 08: 03 New
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    Not bad at 36 km deviated by 1.5 meters. Is there any specialist in artillery, what errors do we have at such a distance?
    1. mogus
      mogus 1 July 2013 08: 39 New
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      Quote: Atrix
      Not bad at 36 km deviated by 1.5 meters. Is there any specialist in artillery, what errors do we have at such a distance?


      I don’t know, I found http://topwar.ru/1397-korrektiruemye-artillerijskie-snaryady.html
      Apparently we don’t have such shells ...
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 1 July 2013 09: 07 New
        +3
        As well as they do not have such as ours. Americans have long licked at our correctable
        1. mogus
          mogus 1 July 2013 09: 31 New
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          with us, according to the table, up to 16 km. They have up to 38 km. Or is it still in the table and in reality the difference is two times? wink
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 1 July 2013 09: 59 New
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            Krasnopol-M up to 25 km

            And by your link, not guided, but adjustable shells. Much cheaper. And it is them who the Americans want.
            1. mogus
              mogus 1 July 2013 10: 12 New
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              to 25, like M 1 ..?
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              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 1 July 2013 11: 15 New
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                Of course. Adjustable 152 mm is "Centimeter"
        2. Timeout
          Timeout 1 July 2013 11: 48 New
          +1
          Do not minus the comrade Lopatov, this is one of the few people in the military who really understands artillery. They didn’t teach badly in Kolomna!
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 1 July 2013 11: 59 New
            +2
            It's a pity to close. Yekaterinburg is the Tbilisi WACU. And Kolomna is the best teachers from Ukrainian art. schools, which Major General Shumeev dragged to himself during the collapse of the USSR
            1. Timeout
              Timeout 1 July 2013 12: 36 New
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              You are still lucky to study with normal teachers ... And now it seems that all qualified teachers in all without exception higher education institutions have been sent to the reserve. It turns out that we are still lucky!
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 1 July 2013 12: 56 New
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                Well, we were not just normal ... They tried to close the school for a long time, the base is still much worse than in EVAKU. Only due to the highest level of teachers and survived. Until the time of Serdyukov, when this ceased to be an argument.
                1. Timeout
                  Timeout 1 July 2013 13: 12 New
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                  It is a fact...
        3. beard999
          beard999 1 July 2013 16: 25 New
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          Quote: Spade
          Americans have long licked at our correctable

          As I understand it, you mean that the Americans "licked" at CAS 3OF38 / 3OF75 from the composition of 2K24 / 2K24M http://izvestia.ru/news/540234. And how do you feel about the declared characteristics of these ammunition, in particular, to the "average value of the probability of being hit - 0,94" http://nvo.ng.ru/armament/1999-12-24/5_russiaway.html?print=Y. Your opinion, as an expert in artillery, can these numbers be trusted?
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 1 July 2013 18: 34 New
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            Why not? In principle, any weapon with a target probability above o.5 is considered to be highly accurate. Yes, the corrected shells need a more precise definition of the settings for firing, but their cheapness compensates for this drawback.
            1. beard999
              beard999 1 July 2013 20: 35 New
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              Quote: Spade
              Why not?

              It is simply strange that for UAS 3OF39M1 these figures are lower: for mobile - 0,75, for motionless - 0,8.
              In general, in my opinion, today, the main drawback of such CAS and UAS is the target illumination equipment itself. It really hurts. The easiest I know is the 1D29 Vizir (in the modification of the LCD-4-3 it weighs 13 kg) http://www.polyus.info/production/designators_and_rangefinders/716443/.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 1 July 2013 09: 08 New
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      Who will write this to you?
    3. _CAMOBAP_
      _CAMOBAP_ 1 July 2013 10: 15 New
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      If we talk about conventional shells - there is nothing to compare here - the difference will be an order of magnitude, or even more. Vd and Vb - who served in artillery, he knows what it is - no one canceled. To compare with our corrected - too little data. How a stationary target is struck - more or less clear, with moving ones - is still unclear. In addition, an “accurate” shell is only part of the question, another part is no less important — reconnaissance, and in this case, target designation. Without target designation, any super-duper high-precision ammunition is an ordinary piece of iron, only very expensive. The development of means of combating enemy reconnaissance means is the task of the tasks. This is electronic warfare, and false targets, and disguise. and the seizure of control - Iran was able to land an Amer UAV ... only these issues had to be dealt not even yesterday, but even earlier
      1. Egen
        Egen 1 July 2013 11: 52 New
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        Quote: _CAMOBAP_
        Vd and Vb - who served in artillery, he knows what it is - no one canceled.

        Not canceled. From the memory of the shooting tables I do not remember, but it doesn’t matter, the first fork at such a distance is still 300 meters. But here it’s closer to direct fire :)
        Quote: _CAMOBAP_
        the other part - no less important - reconnaissance, and in this case, target designation

        Target designation can also be from satellites, since the United States has a lot of them, or from UAVs, but there’s another question - the communication channel. Alone or with a return? Channel immunity from interference?

        It is not clear to the end the purpose of the shell. 130mm is an anti-tank caliber. At such a distance from the tanks there is no threat. Its high-impact is not enough. At sea - it’s also easier to squeeze a rocket, but there is no need for such precise guidance, with the 1 shot of the 5-dm hit the “Iowa” :) ... and the target moves, and the rockets are now smarter now. Better 152 or generally 203mm - then it would be clearer. Therefore, it is not very clear to me as an artilleryman what I would hit with an 130 mm ammunition at 36km. In the operational or strategic rear of the enemy to destroy point targets, it’s easier for me in the United States to use the same F-117 when the enemy’s opposition is not as great as in the Middle East. For group purposes, it is better to use heavier artillery adjusted from UAVs - it will be cheaper IMHO and easier. But in a serious war, not with a knowingly weak opponent ... I forgot who said that the next world war would be on batons :)
  2. Lopatov
    Lopatov 1 July 2013 09: 33 New
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    Professor, thanks for the article, but could you clarify: how is this device controlled? Clear business, it is the inertial with ZhPS correction control unit, but how on an ultimate trajectory? The article is about shooting at moving, so there must also be a GOS, infrared or semi-active laser.
    Searched, but with my "English with a dictionary" it is difficult to find.
    1. TRAFFIC
      TRAFFIC 1 July 2013 10: 12 New
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      That kind of nothing there
      The 5-Inch SGP offers rapid time of flight and the capability of in-flight retargeting to address moving targets, changing target conditions, and surface threats.
      that is, retargeting in flight to hit moving targets, that's all.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 1 July 2013 10: 47 New
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        Quote: TRAFIC
        that is, retargeting in flight to hit moving targets, that's all.

        That is, the shell receives commands on the radio? And is there a complex device for tracking the target on its trajectory, constantly transmitting to the projectile the adjusted coordinates?
        For the marine option, maybe. But for the land, it is hard to believe.
        1. TRAFFIC
          TRAFFIC 1 July 2013 12: 04 New
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          It’s possible on the radio as in this picture, or it’s possible as in this presentation http://ftp.navsys.com/papers/9810001.pdf, there, in principle, everything is clear from the pictures if you have poor English, plus the devices to get the adjusted coordinates.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 1 July 2013 12: 11 New
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            It does not show devices that are capable of real-time adjusting the coordinates of the target on the path
            1. TRAFFIC
              TRAFFIC 1 July 2013 12: 52 New
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              http://www.navsys.com/products/gi-eye.htm ну вот же для авиации и там же в пдфке говориться о разрабатываемой переносимой системе для пехоты. А дальше данные обрабатываются и передаются на оружие.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 1 July 2013 13: 13 New
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                Quote: TRAFIC
                And then the data is processed and transmitted to the weapon.
                Non-trivial task in the conditions of radio-electronic counteraction.
    2. Professor
      1 July 2013 10: 40 New
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      Good afternoon,
      Quote: Spade
      As well as they do not have such as ours. Americans have long licked at our correctable

      They also have correctable ones like in Russia. Excalibur Extended Range Projectile


      Quote: Spade
      Could you clarify: how is this device controlled?

      I looked, here are a few facts:
      KVO <10 m with warhead weight in 11.8-22.6 kg of M777 and M109A3 MACS Chg 4 at a range of 70 km. Rate of fire 3 per minute, projectile time "on the way" 3 min 15 sec at 70 km.

      When shooting from the Mk 45 Mod 4, the rate of fire is 10 per minute, the travel time is 3: 45 at (attention !!!) 96 km, 6 shells simultaneously arrive at the target within 2 seconds (Multiple Rounds Simultaneous Impact).

      About the control system has not yet been written. sad
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 1 July 2013 11: 02 New
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        good afternoon
        Quote: Professor
        They also have correctable ones like in Russia. Excalibur Extended Range Projectile

        The Escalibur is also controllable. Americans have no correctable shells (with pulse correction systems).

        Quote: Professor
        When shooting from the Mk 45 Mod 4, the rate of fire is 10 per minute, the travel time is 3:45 on (attention !!!) 96 km

        This is from a ship's gun mount, there is another charge.
        1. Professor
          1 July 2013 11: 07 New
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          Quote: Spade
          The Escalibur is also controllable. Americans have no correctable shells (with pulse correction systems).

          In vain did not follow the link.
          Back in the 1980-ies for a lot of money, an 155-millimeter shell was developed Copperheaddesigned to destroy tanks with a single shot. Copperhead had laser guidance. That is, the projectile was aimed at laser radiation reflected from the target when it was irradiated by the gunner. It was the same method used on laser-guided bombs.



          Quote: Spade
          This is from a ship's gun mount, there is another charge.

          70 km of howitzers is also impressive.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 1 July 2013 11: 14 New
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            Copperhead is also manageable, not adjustable. An analogue of our managed Krasnopol

            The difference between the controlled and the corrected is not in the guidance method, but in the way the projectile is controlled. If it is controlling aerodynamic surfaces, the projectile is controllable; if the powder micromotors, the projectile is adjustable. The latter is much cheaper and easier.
            1. Nayhas
              Nayhas 1 July 2013 11: 28 New
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              Chinese 155mm. projectile WS-35
              All the same, Krasnopol needs illumination of the target from an external source, if we had a UAV fleet, but it wasn’t there and the scouts had to carry out illumination, endangering their lives. Escalibra does not need any illumination, set the coordinates and fired. Although more expensive, you don’t need to risk anyone’s life.
              PS: China "could not resist" and released its version of the Escalibur 155mm WS-35.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 1 July 2013 11: 34 New
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                Quote: Nayhas
                Escalibra does not need any illumination, set the coordinates and fired.

                You have to pay for everything, “Escalibur” due to the lack of backlight can only shoot at fixed targets. And depending on the signal of the ZhPS

                Quote: Nayhas
                but you don’t need to risk anyone’s life.

                Yah. And who are you going to take the coordinates of the target from?

                1. Professor
                  1 July 2013 11: 41 New
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                  Quote: Spade
                  Yah. And who are you going to take the coordinates of the target from?

                  From the UAV. wink By the way, he can highlight, but only one at a time.
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 1 July 2013 11: 55 New
                    +1
                    UAVs in modern combat are very vulnerable.
                    1. Professor
                      1 July 2013 12: 00 New
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                      Quote: Spade
                      UAVs in modern combat are very vulnerable.

                      Yes, quit. I will not once again quote Shamanov. Look at least at the 3 Orbiter with an electric motor, it's not so easy to notice and bring down. About generally smaller UAVs I am silent.
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 1 July 2013 12: 06 New
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                        Are you sure. that he is not only able to highlight, to determine the coordinates of targets? Ultra small they are just for watching.
                      2. Professor
                        1 July 2013 12: 10 New
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                        Quote: Spade
                        Are you sure. that he is not only able to highlight, to determine the coordinates of targets? Ultra small they are just for watching.

                        I am sure. I will quote myself beloved. repeat
                        UAV Orbiter
                        Fully stabilized platform D-STAMP allows you to get a clear color video image in the daytime. It has a tenfold optical zoom and full coverage in azimuth and altitude.

                        It also has a new scanning mode to quickly cover a large area. STAMP-HD weighs 750 grams and is equipped with a high-resolution daylight camera. The U-Stamp platform, stabilized in three planes, allows you to get a clear color video image at night. It has digital zoom and full coverage in azimuth and altitude, is equipped with an uncooled thermal imager with and without zoom. The M-STAMP includes a daylight camera, an uncooled dual-field thermal imager and laser pointer and all this with a weight of 1.2 kg. Currently, work is underway to further reduce the weight of the M-STAMP model to one kilogram. The T-STAMP model weighs 2.8 kg and contains three sensors on a stabilized platform: a cooled thermal imager with continuous zoom and a CCD camera. T-STAMP also contains a stabilized inertial measuring device providing precise location of targets.
                      3. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 1 July 2013 12: 13 New
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                        And the rangefinder?

                        Quote: Professor
                        also contains a stabilized inertial measuring device providing accurate determination of the geographical location of targets.

                        The mistake crept in. Not goals, but the UAV itself.
                      4. Professor
                        1 July 2013 12: 21 New
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                        Quote: Spade
                        The mistake crept in. Not goals, but the UAV itself.

                        There is no mistake, I personally saw this system at the exhibition. As far as I remember (it was long ago), the papelats knowing their location in three coordinates and the azimuth of the target calculates its coordinates (the target on the ground) and binds it to the map.
                      5. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 1 July 2013 12: 34 New
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                        Then, it's OK. However, I looked, the device has a wingspan of almost 4 meters. I would not say that it is very difficult to notice.
                      6. Professor
                        1 July 2013 13: 01 New
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                        Quote: Spade
                        However, I looked, the device has a wingspan of almost 4 meters. I would not say that it is very difficult to notice.

                        3 orbiter is almost 4 meters, others are smaller. From personal experience, I was lucky after three months of observations to “catch” with Hermes-900 binoculars and it was at sunset and its plane was reflected by a bunny. And so it buzzed for months and FIGs catch him. Ask igor67, he lives in Safed, drones are constantly hanging over him.
                      7. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 1 July 2013 13: 14 New
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                        Those that are smaller do not highlight.
                      8. Professor
                        1 July 2013 13: 20 New
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                        Quote: Spade
                        Those that are smaller do not highlight.

                        Highlight. All "backlighting" weighs 1200 grams.
                      9. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 1 July 2013 13: 27 New
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                        Highlights only 3 Orbiter specifically looked. The backlight is much heavier - the gyrostabilized platform also needs to be added to these 1.2 kg
                      10. Professor
                        1 July 2013 14: 30 New
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                        Quote: Spade
                        Highlights only 3 Orbiter specifically looked. The backlight is much heavier - the gyrostabilized platform also needs to be added to these 1.2 kg

                        All payloads, including a laser pointer, weighs 2.8 kg and can be placed on multiple platforms. Orbiter 3 peseta 5 kg payload. However, we started by determining the coordinates of the target for Escalibur. This can be done even by a small, almost imperceptible UAV (fortunately, an algorithm has already been created) and electronic warfare in this case is hardly effective. In short, these shells are formidable weapons, although I personally prefer missiles.
                      11. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 1 July 2013 14: 36 New
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                        Quote: Professor
                        EW in this case is hardly effective.

                        ??? The coordinates of the goal also need to be transferred.
                      12. Professor
                        1 July 2013 14: 49 New
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                        Quote: Spade
                        ??? The coordinates of the goal also need to be transferred.

                        The operating frequency of the UAV also needs to be detected (and when it jumps in a pseudo-random sequence over the entire spectrum it is almost impossible), they only write about drowning in fairy tales.
                      13. Fetel
                        Fetel 1 July 2013 18: 12 New
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                        By the way, in the same way it is possible to modulate the radiation of C-300 radars - "in a pseudo-random sequence throughout the spectrum", and of any other SAM, too, and it will also become impossible to drown out, can you find it?
                      14. Professor
                        1 July 2013 20: 05 New
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                        Quote: FeteL
                        By the way, in the same way it is possible to modulate the radiation of C-300 radars - "in a pseudo-random sequence throughout the spectrum", and of any other SAM, too, and it will also become impossible to drown out, can you find it?

                        An interesting idea, but IMHO is poorly feasible, the spectrum is narrow, there is nowhere to jump.
                      15. Fetel
                        Fetel 1 July 2013 23: 13 New
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                        How is it that the radar has a "narrow spectrum", "nowhere to jump", and for a UAV it is wide? The S-300 and S-400 developers themselves assure that there is much to jump - “One lane is clogged with interference, we work on the neighboring ones” - that is, if everything was so simple, the West and Israel would not have hysteria about the S-300.
                      16. Professor
                        2 July 2013 08: 10 New
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                        Quote: FeteL
                        How is it that the radar has a "narrow spectrum", "nowhere to jump", and for a UAV it is wide?

                        Lay out the frequencies of the spectra and the bandwidths and compare them together, and this is all the talk.
  • Nayhas
    Nayhas 1 July 2013 16: 52 New
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    Quote: Spade
    You have to pay for everything, “Escalibur” due to the lack of backlight can only shoot at fixed targets. And depending on the signal of the ZhPS

    According to Excalibur, there was news recently: "Raytheon has launched its own program to modernize the 155 mm Excalibur satellite-guided artillery projectile (UAS) with GPS with the new GNU (guidance and navigation unit) equipped with a semi-active SAL (semi- active laser), ASDNews reports on June 20. " Krasnopol, on the other hand, depends on the intelligence of the scouts, whether they can quietly drag a laser rangefinder-target designator into the rear of the enemy, turn on the backlight, not light up and go away with bulky equipment alive. The question "not to light up" is very difficult, it’s good if you need to direct one shell, but if several? The enemy can detect the position of spotters and then they will have a hard time. An UAV can conduct reconnaissance unnoticed, transmit the coordinates of the target online and leave ...
  • Windbreak
    Windbreak 1 July 2013 11: 52 New
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    So in the picture like Escalibur himself, and not his Chinese copy.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 1 July 2013 12: 01 New
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      I would not be so sure of this ... Another question is where they managed to steal the source.
      1. Windbreak
        Windbreak 1 July 2013 18: 34 New
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        Escalibur is
        http://www.baesystems.com/cs/groups/public/documents/document/mdaw/mdyy/~edisp/b
        aes_052310.pdf
  • Tot-enot
    Tot-enot 6 July 2013 21: 27 New
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    The problem with Excalibur is its cost, you can’t find the exact prices, but it seems the “Centimeter” is simpler and several times cheaper, which is interesting.
  • Roll
    Roll 1 July 2013 10: 14 New
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    wassat The gun and the projectile are good, but is it necessary to chase the range like that, the missile still flies further, say a tornado system can cover this cannon from 60 kilometers.
    1. Professor
      1 July 2013 10: 42 New
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      Quote: Rolm
      say a tornado system can cover this cannon with 60 kilometers.

      96 km is greater than 60 km.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 1 July 2013 11: 03 New
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        It remains to figure out how to put some destroyer on the ground mover
        1. Professor
          1 July 2013 11: 08 New
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          70 km is also greater than 60 km wink
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 1 July 2013 11: 19 New
            +1
            But less than 120
  • ed65b
    ed65b 1 July 2013 10: 27 New
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    What do you say work in the states. Yes, and they would not work with such a budget. Give our money, I’m sure they will not shame.
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 1 July 2013 19: 49 New
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      Give our money, I’m sure they will not shame.
      Give our money, sure soprut.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 1 July 2013 20: 09 New
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        C'mon, in the most bad times they didn’t steal, they gave out a bunch of new managed and corrected “mounts”, and then they suddenly begin to steal.
        1. sergey261180
          sergey261180 1 July 2013 21: 04 New
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          Is it you stagnation that you call filthy at times?
  • alex67
    alex67 1 July 2013 10: 31 New
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    Thanks to the professor for the good article.
    the ship’s gun hits 38 km ...
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 1 July 2013 10: 40 New
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      Ship on 100
  • mogus
    mogus 1 July 2013 10: 40 New
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    Quote: Spade
    Professor, thanks for the article, but could you clarify: how is this device controlled? Clear business, it is the inertial with ZhPS correction control unit, but how on an ultimate trajectory? The article is about shooting at moving, so there must also be a GOS, infrared or semi-active laser.
    Searched, but with my "English with a dictionary" it is difficult to find.

    The original is not about the guidance method. Other sources reprint this article.
    They can 100 km. to launch - seriously.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 1 July 2013 11: 06 New
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      Quote: mogus
      Other sources reprint this article.

      Here I am about that.
      In general, most likely this problem is solved in the same way as the Germans and Italians

      http://bmpd.livejournal.com/327066.html
      1. mogus
        mogus 1 July 2013 11: 55 New
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        I liked about self-liquidation.
        Such things are good for point ones. But the databases will not always be like 08.08.08/150/XNUMX, and MLRS needs to be developed. Info about XNUMX km began to come across. "Tornado"
  • mogus
    mogus 1 July 2013 14: 24 New
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    related video
    1. mogus
      mogus 1 July 2013 14: 27 New
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      one more video
  • kind
    kind 1 July 2013 16: 22 New
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    Designed to greatly enhance the capabilities of the US Marine Corps and Army Corps, MS-SGP has a range of almost 100 km with an accuracy of less than 5-m, and also improves the capabilities of the US Navy MK45 guns.

    Blah blah blah. A missile with a tactical missile range? At such a range, even the MLRS does not shoot.
    1. Professor
      1 July 2013 20: 02 New
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      Quote: Good
      Blah blah blah. Tactical range projectile

      Well, thank God. No one caught BAE in a lie, but "a good man" was found and brought them to clean water. fellow
  • _CAMOBAP_
    _CAMOBAP_ 1 July 2013 17: 49 New
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    Quote: Egen
    From memory of the shooting tables I do not remember
    - smiled. But are there such unique ones that they remember? As for the caliber - also a question. of course. Although the principle itself is important here - it turned out to be 130 mm, it will turn out to be 155 and more.
    1. Egen
      Egen 2 July 2013 05: 32 New
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      Quote: _CAMOBAP_
      But are there such unique ones that they remember?

      And then! :) For another year 3 I “tied up” at least not numbers, of course, but I remembered the mutual order :) The memory was just good :) :(
  • sergey261180
    sergey261180 1 July 2013 19: 52 New
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    What is the initial velocity of the projectile?