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NATO troops can pass through Georgia

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A visiting session of the Georgia-NATO Council was held in Georgia under the chairmanship of the Alliance Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen. Before his visit to Tbilisi, Mr. Rasmussen made it clear that the Georgian authorities should not expect to join NATO soon, but he promised political support in containing Russia in Abkhazia and South Ossetia. In response, Bidzina Ivanishvili confirmed that his country will continue to support the West in Afghanistan and is ready to “provide the railway infrastructure” for the withdrawal of the NATO contingent next year.


The meeting of the Georgia-NATO Council at the ambassadorial level was supposed to be held in Tbilisi at the end of last year, but was postponed due to the arrest of the Chief of General Staff Georgy Kalandadze on charges of beating military personnel.

The Georgian authorities attached particular importance to the current visit, hoping to hear from Anders Fogh Rasmussen and the ambassadors of the member states of the alliance long-awaited words about Georgia’s approaching NATO standards. “This visit will be a clear message for the Georgian public, the world community and the countries of the region that Georgia will necessarily join NATO,” said Alexy Petriashvili, State Minister for European and Euro-Atlantic Integration, on the eve of the visit.

At the same time, the team of Prime Minister Ivanishvili places particular hopes on active participation in the ISAF operation in Afghanistan. However, Rasmussen said in an interview that “participation in the Afghan operation is not a ticket to NATO” and in order to achieve full membership or at least obtain a road map for joining the alliance (MAP) “Georgia must deepen military reforms and meet certain criteria.

However, Mr. Rasmussen immediately made it clear: the Georgian authorities can count on NATO’s “measured political support” in the situation on the border with Abkhazia and South Ossetia, which Georgia considers to be “occupied territories”. Including in disputes about the legality of the demarcation of the Georgian-South Ossetian border with barbed wire. “This is contrary to the cease-fire agreement 2008 of the year and is absolutely unacceptable for us,” said Mr. Rasmussen. “We demand full respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Georgia.” At the same time, the Secretary General made it clear that the arrest of former Prime Minister Vano Merabishvili does not bring Georgia closer to NATO criteria. “It is important that such cases do not look politically motivated,” the Secretary General said.

During a joint press conference with Prime Minister Ivanishvili, he said that the transport infrastructure of Georgia, if necessary, can be used in the withdrawal of NATO troops from Afghanistan next year. “To this end, we decided to accelerate the construction of our railway section,” the prime minister said, referring to the Baku-Tbilisi-Istanbul highway.
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  1. Nevsky
    Nevsky 28 June 2013 08: 46
    11
    This means that cargo 200 will continue to arrive stably at Tbilissi airport from Afghanistan. negative

    Tin:
    Mr. Rasmussen made it clear that the Georgian authorities should not expect an early entry into NATO, but promised political support in containing Russia in Abkhazia and South Ossetia.


    laughing laughing laughing
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 28 June 2013 08: 51
      +6
      ... declared Mr. Rasmussen.— We demand full respect ...

      Hehe hehe. Clown.




      At the same time, the team of Prime Minister Ivanishvili places particular hopes on active participation in the ISAF operation in Afghanistan. However, Rasmussen said in an interview that “participation in the Afghan operation is not a ticket to NATO” and in order to achieve full membership or at least obtain a road map for joining the alliance (MAP) “Georgia must deepen military reforms and meet certain criteria.

      ... Georgian authorities can count on "dosed political support »NATO ...

      Well, yes, poppy crops in Afghanistan are breaking records. When withdrawing troops, they will necessarily share the surplus.
    2. Furnace driver
      Furnace driver 28 June 2013 08: 52
      +1
      Quote: Nevsky
      This means that cargo 200 will continue to arrive stably at Tbilissi airport from Afghanistan. negative
      Perhaps all the desire to fight will beat such parcels from Afghanistan
      1. Very old
        Very old 28 June 2013 09: 16
        +3
        That on the forehead, that on the forehead. Nothing to learn, not good lessons
    3. experienced
      experienced 28 June 2013 09: 02
      21
      "NATO troops can pass through Georgia", a characteristic title, how can you relate to the country through which everyone walks? During 080808 Russian troops "walked through Georgia" and could not understand in any way where the military of this country and why, when approaching settlements, officials, firemen and policemen ran away from them. In short, Georgia is a country of paradoxes.
      When I was still a schoolboy, a lady of about 30 years old lived in the neighborhood (at that time she seemed almost an old woman) and so "through her" a lot of local men and business travelers "walked", but as she was lonely she died and, which is typical of local the women despised her and did not love her ... winked
      1. Manager
        Manager 28 June 2013 09: 51
        +3
        Quote: seasoned
        When I was still a schoolboy, a lady of about 30 years old lived in the neighborhood (at that time she seemed almost an old woman) and so "through her" a lot of local men and business travelers "walked", but as she was lonely she died and, which is typical of local the women despised her and did not love her ...


        Many so hope to find a husband. But finds 1 out of a million this way. What does characteristically find not complete. With Georgia the same situevina)

        Plus for the exact comparison!
      2. 755962
        755962 28 June 2013 10: 49
        +2
        Ah yes, Alexey! Ah yes ... Well, what a well-aimed comparison!
      3. Tersky
        Tersky 28 June 2013 14: 28
        +3
        Quote: seasoned
        and that is characteristic of the local women despised her and did not love ..

        Alex, hi ! Well, the babskiy mentality affected here, they envied laughing laughingbut in Georgia just what you wrote about is a prostitute
    4. timurpl
      timurpl 28 June 2013 20: 03
      -3
      /// Bidzina Ivanishvili confirmed that his country will continue to support the West in Afghanistan and is ready to “provide railway infrastructure” when withdrawing the NATO contingent next year .///
      -And why should we be offended by the Georgians, if my "native" government provided NATO with a transit base in Ulyanovsk !!!
      -So it turns out "for us" a shame, but the Georgians just continue to bend ...
  2. Refund_SSSR
    Refund_SSSR 28 June 2013 08: 47
    +3
    Georgian authorities can count on "dosed political support" of NATO in the situation on the border with Abkhazia and South Ossetia
    lol what a false formulation .. Especially looking back at how successful the help on the same issue was in August the eighth ...
    How then can they support now? Again lie about Russian tanks in Tbil?
  3. xetai9977
    xetai9977 28 June 2013 08: 49
    +3
    Rather, Baku-Tbilisi-Kars, and from there through Istanbul and through the tunnel under the strait further to Europe.
  4. Wedmak
    Wedmak 28 June 2013 08: 49
    +7
    Georgia is not only licking the heels of the gentlemen from NATO, but also ready to substitute the ass.
    1. kress42rus
      kress42rus 28 June 2013 09: 00
      0
      so Georgia and so relaxed and ass fingering
      1. Very old
        Very old 28 June 2013 09: 33
        +1
        how many times GAVARIT - yes I am free, completely free, with whom I drink, with whom E (do) ...
    2. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 28 June 2013 09: 12
      +1
      Its "gorges" for the NATO caravan) laughing
    3. Very old
      Very old 28 June 2013 09: 20
      +1
      Eee, daragha, this is my ... Sovereign
  5. NOMADE
    NOMADE 28 June 2013 08: 50
    0
    “However, Rasmussen said in an interview that“ participation in the Afghan operation is not a ticket to NATO ”and in order to achieve full membership or at least receive a“ roadmap ”for joining the alliance (MAP)“ Georgia must deepen reforms in the military sphere and comply certain criteria. "

    That is, you have not yet bought the "necessary kit" for joining NATO (ie, you need to buy used airplanes, helicopters, etc.). Also, for now, send your citizens to the "peacekeeping" "democratic" wars of NATO .. ​​And the worst thing is that this is happening against the background of a division of public opinion in Georgia. That is, some of the people are "For" joining NATO, and the rest, on the contrary, are for the settlement of relations with Russia. You look at all this and do not understand, do not Georgian politicians understand that at the same time on 2 fronts, the game will sooner or later fail?
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  7. Smersh
    Smersh 28 June 2013 08: 51
    +1
    And why are all the presidents of Georgia so drawn to NATO request
    1. Very old
      Very old 28 June 2013 09: 24
      0
      And who will give the green light to new adventures, so I want a blitzkrieg - Tskhinval, Sukhum
    2. Geokingxnumx
      Geokingxnumx 28 June 2013 10: 47
      0
      Quote: Smersh
      And why are all the presidents of Georgia so drawn to NATO

      Gamsakhurdia did not stretch! he was generally against NATO
      Shevardnadze so-so
      Then Mishiko and all!
      Bidzina prime minister oh no president

      we didn’t want NATO at all! but the situation forced us
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 28 June 2013 13: 17
        +1
        Quote: GEOKING95
        we didn’t want NATO at all! but the situation forced us
        But you must admit that the idea of ​​joining NATO in Georgia does not meet with any opposition. Technically, you are already there: joint operations, armament standards, participation in exercises, training of specialists. Disputed territories and Russia's tough stance on your accession block this process. But in modern conditions it is becoming more and more a pure formality.
        Baku – Tbilisi – Istanbul highway.
        + a transportation center in Kazakhstan. This is where a transport corridor is formed, bypassing Russia, which means to the detriment of Russia and its Eurasian strategy. We can expect a stronger Russian military presence in this region and stronger interaction with existing allies and allies.
        1. Geokingxnumx
          Geokingxnumx 28 June 2013 15: 54
          +3
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          But you must admit that the idea of ​​joining NATO in Georgia does not meet with opposition

          There are plenty
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          .Technically, you are already there

          no
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          joint operations

          Yes
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          weapons standards

          Hamers of the 20 century and m-4 which are not so good! Most of us are Soviet Armament
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          . Disputed territories and Russia's tough stance on your entry block this process.

          it is yes!

          today photo! NATO runs and Georgia follows!
      2. Tersky
        Tersky 28 June 2013 14: 32
        +3
        Quote: GEOKING95
        we didn’t want NATO at all! but the situation forced us

        Or are you a situation?
    3. 225chay
      225chay 28 June 2013 16: 09
      +2
      Quote: Smersh
      And why are all the presidents of Georgia so drawn to NATO

      Really why? There aren’t enough ties for everyone ...
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 29 June 2013 06: 23
        0
        The new government in Georgia sets the following tasks for the construction and reform of the Armed Forces:
        bringing the Georgian Armed Forces to NATO standards;
        debugging effective mechanisms of parliamentary and public control;
        the creation of a civil council for interaction with the military;
        establishment of the institution of military ombudsman;
        reduction of military service life from 18 to 12 months with the transition to a professional contract army in the future;
        the organization of a quick reaction reserve force for a crisis of civil-military settlement during natural disasters and catastrophes, the development of a concept and the revision of the existing defense reserve system;
        development of a new Georgia Security Strategy;
        revision of the Concept of National Security of Georgia (but without fundamental changes on fundamental foreign policy issues, regional policy and regarding the territorial integrity of the state);
        the creation of a new military Doctrine of Georgia, taking into account the 20-year experience of recent history of Georgia;
        analysis of tactical, military operations of the Georgian army, strategic political decisions of the military leadership;
        creating a new vision of the Georgian defense system;
        the creation of a mobile army with quick reaction forces and advanced special operations forces;
        creation of an effective, modern air defense system;
        creation of an independent intelligence agency;
        development of anti-terrorist abilities of the army;
        development of military cooperation with NATO - exercises and training;
        development of military-technical cooperation with the USA and other NATO countries. Ilo khvichia, I took this from here http://russiancouncil.ru/blogs/bronislav_mazur/?id_4=507
        1. Geokingxnumx
          Geokingxnumx 29 June 2013 10: 46
          0
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          The new government in Georgia sets the following tasks for the construction and reform of the Armed Forces:
          bringing the Georgian Armed Forces to NATO standards;
          debugging effective mechanisms of parliamentary and public control;
          the creation of a civil council for interaction with the military;
          establishment of the institution of military ombudsman;
          reduction of military service life from 18 to 12 months with the transition to a professional contract army in the future;
          the organization of a quick reaction reserve force for a crisis of civil-military settlement during natural disasters and catastrophes, the development of a concept and the revision of the existing defense reserve system;
          development of a new Georgia Security Strategy;
          revision of the Concept of National Security of Georgia (but without fundamental changes on fundamental foreign policy issues, regional policy and regarding the territorial integrity of the state);
          the creation of a new military Doctrine of Georgia, taking into account the 20-year experience of recent history of Georgia;
          analysis of tactical, military operations of the Georgian army, strategic political decisions of the military leadership;
          creating a new vision of the Georgian defense system;
          the creation of a mobile army with quick reaction forces and advanced special operations forces;
          creation of an effective, modern air defense system;
          creation of an independent intelligence agency;
          development of anti-terrorist abilities of the army;
          development of military cooperation with NATO - exercises and training;
          development of military-technical cooperation with the USA and other NATO countries. Ilo khvichia, I took this from here http://russiancouncil.ru/blogs/bronislav_mazur/?id_4=507

          ok let me tell you what we have in service
          http://geo-army.ge/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9&Itemid=9&lang=
          ru
          here is all that we have! And look at the majority of our Soviet and Turkish weapons
  8. fenix57
    fenix57 28 June 2013 08: 52
    +6
    Georgia decided once again to step on the same rake ... they don’t want to learn, well, the flag was in their hands and the train MEET! fool And what will they ask in return ... The Yankees just do nothing!
  9. domokl
    domokl 28 June 2013 08: 52
    +4
    I am categorically against prostitution in general, but that black-haired one will be the exception ... lol Georgia, even in the future, at the moment, needs NATO only as a transshipment base. The rest are the problems of the Georgians ... NATO members do not even hide their attitude to the country ... As they say, they put them below the baseboard ... Hmm ...
  10. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 28 June 2013 08: 52
    +1
    "It is important that such cases do not look politically motivated," the secretary general said.

    That is, it doesn’t matter if such matters are politically motivated or not, the main thing is that they don’t look like that. Everything is as always, the facade is in a flower, and underneath is a rotten interior, the normal position of the West at all times.
  11. Dimy4
    Dimy4 28 June 2013 08: 58
    0
    We will stand until the end .... morally.
  12. BARKAS
    BARKAS 28 June 2013 08: 58
    0
    However, Mr. Rasmussen immediately made it clear: the Georgian authorities can count on "dosed political support" of NATO in the situation on the border with Abkhazia and South Ossetia,

    Well, straight is the standard of diplomacy, their mother, why did they meet then I did not understand the wine to drink with barbecue? what
  13. sys-1985
    sys-1985 28 June 2013 09: 03
    0
    "However, Mr. Rasmussen immediately made it clear: the Georgian authorities can count on" metered political support "of NATO in the situation on the border with Abkhazia and South Ossetia, which Georgia considers" occupied territories "" Who would doubt ... Why not Abkhazia with the South Ossetia was asked whether they consider their states to be the territory of Georgia.
  14. Cat
    Cat 28 June 2013 09: 05
    +1
    Mr. Rasmussen made it clear that the Georgian authorities should not count on an early entry into NATO, but promised political support

    Yeah, and he promised to get married. And she believed. And he will marry (or materаsit), and quit. And again I have to - bite the bitter tears with a sweet tie ...
  15. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross 28 June 2013 09: 12
    0
    57% of Georgian citizens "consider Russia an enemy." This was reported by Georgia-Online, citing data from a study by the International Republican Institute, which was funded by the US Agency for International Development

    As the survey shows, “30% of respondents consider Russia to be a friend”.

    And what can we talk about after the survey of amers ... Therefore, the policies of Georgians are moving in NATO.
    1. Aljavad
      Aljavad 29 June 2013 01: 43
      0
      that's interesting: but they also interviewed those Georgian citizens who live and work in Russia? Or just your party?
  16. NOMADE
    NOMADE 28 June 2013 09: 16
    +2
    Quote: slavik_gross
    57% of Georgian citizens "consider Russia an enemy." This was reported by Georgia-Online, citing data from a study by the International Republican Institute, which was funded by the US Agency for International Development

    As the survey shows, “30% of respondents consider Russia to be a friend”.

    And what can we talk about after the survey of amers ... Therefore, the policies of Georgians are moving in NATO.


    I agree with you. Statistics ... statistics again. She is like a "prostitute", who orders her, he "has" it. This is just a manipulation tool for the Georgian authorities to justify their pro-NATO actions.
  17. darksoul
    darksoul 28 June 2013 09: 18
    +1
    Georgia is a sovereign state of the United States, oh state, and at ease to the tune to do whatever they say. This is definitely not going to go to South Ossetia, but let Afghanistan promote democracy
  18. Leisure
    Leisure 28 June 2013 09: 20
    +1
    - You continue to supply us with "ebony", and for this we promise to take you to our place someday.
    -A small "proud people" loved to drag chestnuts out of the fire for their new owner.
    -Pay the life of their citizens for mythical ideals and promises, this is too much.
  19. pensioner
    pensioner 28 June 2013 09: 27
    +1
    Georgian authorities can count on “dosed political support” of NATO in the situation on the border with Abkhazia and South Ossetia, which Georgia considers to be “occupied territories”.

    Yeah. Toko dose is homeopathic.
  20. pensioner
    pensioner 28 June 2013 09: 34
    0
    Quote: domokl
    I am categorically against prostitution in general, but that black-haired one will be the exception ... Georgia, even in the future, at the moment, needs NATO only as a transshipment base. The rest are the problems of the Georgians ... NATO members do not even hide their attitude towards the country ... How they say, lowered below the plinth ... Hmm ..


    It’s better not to say about Georgia !!! +++++++++++++++++++++
  21. Vtel
    Vtel 28 June 2013 09: 36
    +1
    However, Mr. Rasmussen immediately made it clear: the Georgian authorities can count on “dosed political support” of NATO in the situation on the border with Abkhazia and South Ossetia, which Georgia considers to be “occupied territories”.

    NATO has put the current Georgia on the "dose" and will not let it get off it now. Rasmussen with Ivanishvili in the photo is like two foster brothers, only one knows that he is doing his dirty deed, and the other doesn't care - the main thing is to grab onto something from the American.

    (They are like children sitting on the street, calling each other and saying: we played the flute and you did not dance; we sang you lamentable songs and you did not cry.)
    Wed Luke 7:32. The meaning of the verse is as follows: this generation is like a crowd of angry children who are not doing anything right, one half wants one, the other wants the other.
  22. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 28 June 2013 09: 36
    +1
    Quote: retired
    Georgian authorities can count on “dosed political support” of NATO in the situation on the border with Abkhazia and South Ossetia, which Georgia considers to be “occupied territories”.

    In other words - Katso, do not rely on our support very much. She, of course, will be, but ... Friendship, friendship, and tobacco - apart.
  23. family tree
    family tree 28 June 2013 09: 38
    +1
    The Georgian authorities attached particular importance to the current visit, hoping to hear long-awaited words from Anders Fogh Rasmussen and the ambassadors of the member states of the alliance about Georgia's approximation to NATO standards.
    Maybe someone had hoped, but not Ivanishvili. This pragmatist quickly understood what it means to "get into" the Georgian leadership and now he is just trying to screw it up, saving face laughing
    "my retirement from politics means that I am moving from an easy to a more difficult place. This will mean that I will leave a worthy team in the government, and only after that I will leave and become an active member of a society that aspires to become a part of the European community as soon as possible ", - explained Ivanishvili.
    So Ivanishvili commented on the question of journalists about his interview with one of the Estonian publications, in which he said that he intends to leave politics a few days after the presidential election in October this year.
  24. pensioner
    pensioner 28 June 2013 09: 42
    +1
    NATO troops can pass through Georgia and not notice her ...
  25. Manager
    Manager 28 June 2013 09: 53
    +2
    It turned out like in that joke about partisans, Germans and forester. Partisans came and drove the Germans out of the woods. The Germans regrouped and drove out the partisans. The partisans rallied and knocked out the Germans. And then the forester came and dispersed everyone.

    We will be a forester!
  26. pa_nik
    pa_nik 28 June 2013 09: 54
    +5
    "We demand full respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Georgia," said Mr. Rasmussen.


    and Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, etc.!?!? am
  27. Sochi
    Sochi 28 June 2013 09: 58
    0
    Mdya ... a carrot will hang in front of your face, and you will run after it as much as you have enough strength ... But you cannot reach it, because we don’t need it.
  28. Xnumx kopeek
    Xnumx kopeek 28 June 2013 10: 02
    +3
    Quote: retired
    NATO troops can pass through Georgia and not notice her ...

    --Nata need an approach to Iran / 200 km / - They don't need Georgia as such, essno. Just as NATO does not need Syria, it needs Iran. Just as NATO is not needed and Iran. NATO needs Russia. After all, the Czech Jew Albrayit was indignant that STE was not the case when such a rich region / Siberia / belongs to only one country -? - / well, the diagnosis / Well, here it is. -And there are reiterations of hatred, so propaganda, deliberate demonization , and words about "integrity" Gr. etc. - also a routine, a ritual, like ritual words about the "Holocaust", etc.--
    Through Gr. who passed the current Ney - right up to the Persian Turks / end of the 18th century-Georgians left 800. After George. a path to ser. 000 century they became 19 million .---
    The ingratitude and stench of the state is swept away by history. It's in history. science is called "historical retribution" - / as in the life of individuals / - request
  29. gansik
    gansik 28 June 2013 10: 39
    +1
    The comrades are on the right track!
  30. shamil
    shamil 28 June 2013 10: 56
    +1
    let their fleet be taken out to fight the Somali pirates, maybe they will take it to NATO, otherwise they put their pants back on and are waiting for an invitation
  31. dc120mm
    dc120mm 28 June 2013 11: 04
    11
    Karoche, for --- and NATO’s children ha and. They went to .... !!! Tired already !!!

    And yet our sheep in power nod their heads, already wake up, NATO will not help us !!!
    1. mihasik
      mihasik 29 June 2013 00: 48
      0
      Unfortunately, we no longer believe in the "brotherhood" of peoples. "Brothers" are just trying to snatch something, giving nothing in return. Sorry, they are sold as prostitutes on the right and on the left, to those who will give more. These are the realities of life. The question arises: what the hell is this "brotherhood" to us? Again, to feed all this "brotherhood" for free, and the "brothers" will pour shit around the corner and call us OCCUPIERS. Manal I personally have such "brothers" in a dark pit! For whom was the blood shed with the Ottoman Empire !? Who asked to take Georgia under protection !? Now under the amers laid down, now it's more profitable. What kind of brothers are you after that. Sorry for the truth.
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  33. slvevg
    slvevg 28 June 2013 11: 12
    0
    Hello forum users, it all started with a photo, look at Rasmussen’s face, there’s something from the evil one ... what kind of cooperation are we talking about? wassat
  34. pensioner
    pensioner 28 June 2013 11: 35
    +1
    Quote: 20 kopeek
    Through Gr. who passed the current nei - right up to the Persian Turks


    That's what I look at Saki kind of trampled ... Genes. Anyway...
  35. Sergey13
    Sergey13 28 June 2013 12: 24
    +1
    "The Georgian authorities attached particular importance to the current visit, hoping to hear from Anders Fogh Rasmussen and the ambassadors of the alliance member states the long-awaited words about Georgia's approach to NATO standards." for growing tangerines laughing
  36. individual
    individual 28 June 2013 16: 18
    0
    NATO troops can pass through Georgia.

    They do not have enough Stalin!
  37. Sleptsoff
    Sleptsoff 28 June 2013 21: 28
    0
    NATO is like a closed club, in order to join it you need to stain yourself with blood, a tributary of Russia. I am even surprised that after the events of 2008, Georgia is not yet in NATO. Apparently, many surprises should be expected from this Ivanishvili in the future. Now he just blurs our eyes.
  38. andrei332809
    andrei332809 29 June 2013 06: 41
    0
    but promised political support in containing Russia in Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

    wai, wai, wai ... probably we should get the grease out of there, otherwise the amers will get angry and begin to establish democracy in our country