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The frigate "Admiral Gorshkov" is preparing for tests

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The frigate "Admiral Gorshkov" is preparing for tests

The main frigate of the 22350 project “Admiral Gorshkov”, which is being completed in St. Petersburg at the shipyard “Severnaya Verf”, will be equipped with the newest air defense system “Poliment-Redut” before the factory trials, the Navy representative told Interfax.


"The first release of" Admiral Gorshkov "on factory running tests is scheduled in early October. In the waters of the Gulf of Finland, the frigate will test the main power plant, navigation equipment and communications complex. Then the ship will go to Baltiysk. In the Barents Sea, the Gorshkov will work out launches from their anti-ship, anti-submarine and anti-aircraft complexes, ”the agency’s source said.

According to the representative of the Navy, before running trials on the ship, they must install vertical launch cells of the Poliment-Redut air defense system with 128-th anti-aircraft missiles 9М96Е.

A representative of the Navy recalled that the ship was occupied by the crew in April, the mooring trials of the ship began in May, and state tests should take place before the end of December. In addition, the Admiral Gorshkov 3 July will be presented at the International Naval Show in St. Petersburg.

The multipurpose frigate of the 22350 project is designed to conduct combat operations in the far and near sea zones, as well as to participate in solving problems in the ocean zone. The ship’s displacement is about 4500 t, the maximum length is about 130 m, the maximum width is more than 16m. Sailing distance - more than 4000 miles, seaworthiness - without restrictions. The ships of the project are armed with 16 missiles with the Onix anti-ship complex of the Caliber-NKE family. On the frigates of the project, the 4 module of the “Polyment-Redut” system will be installed with 8 cells in each (total 32 cells).

The frigate is designed in the Northern Design Bureau. It costs up to 400 million dollars.

In accordance with the concluded contracts, Severnaya Verf should, before 2020, build and transfer to the Navy 6 frigates of the 22350 project.
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  1. stpv1
    stpv1 28 June 2013 08: 27 New
    +6
    Great news!
    1. Mitek
      Mitek 28 June 2013 09: 19 New
      +6
      Quote: stpv1
      Great news!

      I would say 2 great news! The ship is ready and the Redoubt! Accordingly, the “Knight” will soon go into the series. Oh no wonder they build factories under it! Complexes are just a fairy tale. There are a lot of missiles, fast reload, 360 degree radar, the range of horror missiles!
    2. Rustam
      Rustam 28 June 2013 09: 47 New
      +4
      In early October, count and the whole of 2014, they have been building exactly 9 years !!!!!!!!!!! this is something of course

      Can a miracle happen and this unfinished building will finally come to the test crying

      the pace of construction is not just amazing, they have been Amazing since 2006 to build this miracle, in the United States during this time they transfer to the US Navy the latest 100000 ton aircraft carriers CVN-77
      George W. Bush (2003-2009)

      Since 2009, Gorshkov was supposed to sail as part of the Russian Navy - this is prescribed in the contract

      it’s just that at one time someone lobbied the Severnaya Verf shipyard and declared it almost the only supplier to the Russian Navy — we see the result today, the program for building ships by this enterprise was completely failed.

      one of the factors, I think, is the backward technology for building ships, according to the general director of the BZ, Alexander Voznesensky, it is necessary to completely change the production system itself and move, as in the west, to large-block construction.

      Illustrative photo-carrier CVN-77
      George W. Bush (2003-2009) -100000 tons, get and sign
      Pots-4000 tons
      1. Rustam
        Rustam 28 June 2013 09: 52 New
        +7
        just my previous post to the topic


        Rustam  April 2, 2013 12:28 | Continuation of the construction of the head frigate of project 22350

        Both pay and work.
        _________

        Pay say? Did you just blurt out it unknowingly, or is it so pure to justify 8 year construction?

        have to reveal the secret then and pee the situation as I know it

        1- I have always been against monopolists especially in the military-industrial complex and have always advocated competition

        2- initially when laying this frigate, the deadline for its delivery was prescribed in the contract mid-2009 !!!! all this happened during the then defense min. comrade Ivanov - Sev Ferf (for some reason) then so many GOZ orders were poured that already knowing people said that they could not cope, and this was a series of corvettes 22380 and frigates 22350 and auxiliary vessels - with 100% financing

        2- moreover, the top managers of the Sev shipyard were beating in the chest that everything would be done exactly and on time (we already know a little how goz goes with money - on the example of the Kurganmashzavod they get money and instead of concluding agreements with subcontractors and starting work on such a new product, they simply scroll through them at the banks, earning income, but making the appearance of work for everyone
        what is interesting at that moment the Balt plant also struggled for state contracts, which was much more technologically advanced and more advanced, having recently handed over the first series of frigates 11356 to India, but it didn’t obey state structures, and it had to be strangled without giving orders, and then forced to bankrupt sell the owner to the OSK structure

        3- I remind you that the deadline (first launch) of Gorshkov is specified in the contract as 2009 - in the west this Northern shipyard was simply forced to pay such penalties for the failure of such a contract that they would gasp and someone would even crouch

        You can have a different attitude towards Mr. Serdyukov and his deputies, especially Sukhorukov, but in 2009 they looked that for 3 years the result was zero, they simply threatened the Sev shipyard with problems and ships -After which some movements began

        that's all, and you say (hard workers get pennies and someone gets rich enormously)

        PS- it’s just that some people from our military-industrial complex are beating in the chest, shouting that give us the order for the state defense order, we will do everything on time and chocolate, and then when the problems begin with fulfillment and especially with quality, they make a sweet smile - and then dissipate the Russian Ministry of Defense (though everyone understands that the same Sev shipyard received these orders for a reason, the Navy has its own people

        photos and videos - for example, DAMEN built a series of SIGMA corvettes and frigates for the Navy of Morocco, built by the Dutch in just 4 years (the whole series)
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 28 June 2013 10: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: Rustam
          in the west, this Northern shipyard was simply forced to pay such penalties for the failure of such a contract that they would gasp and someone would even crouch

          Yes, we have a big problem with responsibility and there’s also an amnesty, it’s interesting and who draws up the contracts and what they write in them, it should be written there tore the deadlines, pay a forfeit?
          Each breakdown has a name, surname, patronymic
          1. Rustam
            Rustam 28 June 2013 10: 43 New
            +3
            while its rulers remain (also in the Navy) they will build at such a pace, maybe quickly, but they frustrated all the grandiose plans and dreams (of some dreamers) for the construction

            Well, nothing will throw money, so I’m going to modernize production and move from sectional to large-block construction, after the modernization of the shipyard

            We have them. The only and unique producers of corvettes 22380-85 and frigates 22350

            there still Ivanov suspended and +3 supply ships

            PS- but these are trifles the main thing is to cut GOZ
        2. Fornit
          Fornit 28 June 2013 13: 08 New
          -5
          Before discussing such serious problems with a smart look, one must at least learn to spell the word correctly (with one letter "m"). Shame ...
          Again, what does "GOZ orders" have to do with it if they are STATE, which means a state order. And no other way ... Lapadoes, Mlyn, unbelted ... Here and above, they rule the same. Yes ... The devastation in the minds ...
      2. Russ69
        Russ69 28 June 2013 13: 27 New
        0
        Quote: Rustam
        it’s just that at one time someone lobbied the Severnaya Verf shipyard and declared it almost the only supplier to the Russian Navy — we see the result today, the program for building ships by this enterprise was completely failed.

        The matter is not only in the shipyard, but also the suppliers slowed down greatly. The ship stood a lot of time against the wall, because there was simply no equipment.
        What else shoals from the shipyard, also does not cancel.
        1. Rustam
          Rustam 28 June 2013 13: 47 New
          +1
          Russ69
          It's not only the shipyard, but the suppliers were slow
          ___________


          a) who was beaten in the chest and prescribed the dates for the transfer of the ship in 2009

          b) who worked with subcontractors, agreed, resolved issues with systems and subsystems, before concluding a contract

          c) if the subcontractors are not ready to deliver on time, then it is not necessary to swell such systems and find an alternative, is it true, or what?

          d) inappropriately scroll through money in banks, as the management of many enterprises of the military-industrial complex love

          The result - the ship’s price is $ 400 million, it’s not even been testing for 8 years - about 6 frigates we can talk about before 2020, which we were voiced by clowns from the SV in 2005 (we haven’t been talking about it since 2004) to be built there)
          1. Russ69
            Russ69 28 June 2013 16: 31 New
            +1
            Quote: Rustam
            a) who was beaten in the chest and prescribed the dates for the transfer of the ship in 2009

            Duc ... I remove the responsibility from the shipyard. I’m just saying that all the handsome men, but they put new weapons systems there, and with new developments they rarely fit on time.
            It is hoped that the series will go further faster.
      3. PLO
        PLO 28 June 2013 15: 57 New
        +2
        Rustam, hello.
        one of the factors, I think, is the backward technology for building ships, according to the general director of the BZ, Alexander Voznesensky, it is necessary to completely change the production system itself and move, as in the west, to large-block construction.

        here's one interesting statement
        on 0.40

        notice BZ built at least half of the Mistral on time, so the reasons are far from technology

        a) who was beaten in the chest and prescribed the dates for the transfer of the ship in 2009

        why not beat yourself in the chest, or do you think the SF personally develops A-192 with Poliment?
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        2. Rustam
          Rustam 28 June 2013 16: 22 New
          +2
          why not beat yourself in the chest, or do you think the SF personally develops A-192 with Poliment?
          ______________________

          Oleg, hello.

          a) video words of gold, that’s why in previous articles I have revived at least BZ for this cooperation and if you add the program for icebreakers this is already something
          but they need to be given military orders more
          look at the video, too, words-18-00 (a problem in the rest of the technologies), but it’s better to see all the videos

          b) for the new systems on Gorshkov, the same Polymer, Redut, A-192-well, if it was known that they were unprepared, probably it was necessary to replace them with already developed systems, and put them on subsequent ships of the series according to the degree of readiness and passing tests
          1. PLO
            PLO 28 June 2013 17: 04 New
            0
            b) for the new systems on Gorshkov, the same Polymer, Redut, A-192-well, if it was known that they were unprepared, probably it was necessary to replace them with already developed systems, and put them on subsequent ships of the series according to the degree of readiness and passing tests

            so it’s certainly right, only such decisions depend solely on the Ministry of Defense
    3. sub307
      sub307 28 June 2013 09: 56 New
      +1
      Great news!
      1. Rustam
        Rustam 28 June 2013 10: 01 New
        +2
        sub307
        Great news!
        ____________

        (just to say what and how and yes it doesn’t matter, the truth is)

        Why is it beautiful? That this unfinished building will finally come to the test (if it does), and how much God knows will be there, so we will soon mark the 10th point (10 years) from its foundation and the beginning of construction.

        Here it is necessary to beat the bell and take drastic measures, even political will
        1. bddrus
          bddrus 28 June 2013 10: 40 New
          -2
          those. to stop construction? or what do you dislike? why should everyone explain that the completion of the ship is bad? what is your joke?
          1. Rustam
            Rustam 28 June 2013 10: 57 New
            +1
            why should everyone explain that the completion of the ship is bad? what is your joke?

            ________

            Joke ?? if everything that I said above you consider a joke, then we probably have different concepts of construction and modernization of the RA

            A joke (this phrase does not give rest) that it may be time to understand and finally change the enterprise or at least place orders at other shipyards, and even over the hill

            And according to Gorshkov, of course, it’s necessary to finish building it up, not to leave it — we’ll soon mark the top ten –– and not to swap new orders in SEV YARN –– let them deal with these for a start

            PS - you read my sentences above - I repeat

            one of the factors, I think, is the backward technology for building ships, according to the general director of the BZ, Alexander Voznesensky, it is necessary to completely change the production system itself and move, as in the west, to large-block construction. The pace of construction at stx and other shipyards is amazing, this is because in Europe and the USA a completely different technique is used.This is a fundamentally different approach in the construction of military and civilian vessels. For example, cranes on the STX can carry a weight of 1000-1500 tons, BZ and NE maximum 100t

            They say that on STX there are places for the simultaneous construction of 4 rex !!!! Charles de Gaulle class aircraft carriers

            For example, photo-French their latest FREMM frigates in 6000 tons from bookmark to first launch in just 3 years, and this is also a completely new project
            1. bddrus
              bddrus 29 June 2013 21: 09 New
              0
              Why breed demagoguery ??? Why are these supposedly analytical calculations?
              a man writes that the completion of Gorshkov is good news! all! one suggestion! you start here to spread footcloths about the fact that this is bad news! no one said that it was built quickly, no one said that it was built without problems !! none!
              YES! the news to man is wonderful because they are finally preparing the ship for testing and surrender!
        2. Fornit
          Fornit 28 June 2013 13: 13 New
          0
          Incidentally, they do not accept will, but MANIFEST. Will is not a cure, comrade ...
          1. Rustam
            Rustam 28 June 2013 13: 20 New
            +2
            Fornit
            Incidentally, they do not accept will, but MANIFEST. Will is not a cure

            Before discussing such serious issues with smart looks
            __________

            Will we continue the lecture on spelling? In essence, the article has something to add or say? I hear you carefully repeat
            regarding the discussion of this particular problem, we’ve been discussing it for 2 years now
  2. darksoul
    darksoul 28 June 2013 08: 29 New
    +5
    Here in the morning before work, news is so news ... frigate !!! well done guys keep it up
    1. Bronis
      Bronis 28 June 2013 08: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: darksoul
      keep it up

      Yeah, considering that it was originally planned to be transferred to the Navy in the middle of 2011 ... Now the real term is the second half of 2014. It was because of these problems on the project that 1135.6 was redone for the needs of the Black Sea Fleet.
  3. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM 28 June 2013 08: 35 New
    +1
    For starters, this is enough, the main thing is to start, and there you look and all the subtleties of the modern bureaucracy will be enlightened, so to speak we learn from mistakes
    And there you look and we will stamp in dozens
    in the ocean you have to show your power !!!
  4. sys-1985
    sys-1985 28 June 2013 08: 38 New
    0
    A stately frigate. There should be a helicopter in its equipment ... forgot? Or was it abandoned?
    1. Bronis
      Bronis 28 June 2013 09: 12 New
      +1
      No, it’s present. 1 Ka-27. There are corvettes. On the frigate - all the more
  5. Wedmak
    Wedmak 28 June 2013 08: 48 New
    0
    the ship must install the vertical launch cells of the Poliment-Redut air defense system with 128 9M96E anti-aircraft missiles.

    On the frigates of the project, 4 modules of the Poliment-Redut air defense system will be installed, with 8 cells each (a total of 32 cells).

    I do not understand something? In one cell 4 rockets?
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    2. Bronis
      Bronis 28 June 2013 09: 15 New
      +2
      The missiles for this air defense system are different in range and size. 32 cells = 32 long-range missiles 9М96 or = 128 short-range missiles 9М100
    3. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 28 June 2013 09: 16 New
      0
      http://7132.ru/w/redut_zenitnyiy_raketnyiy_kompleks
  6. lexat7
    lexat7 28 June 2013 09: 00 New
    0
    “In addition, Admiral Gorshkov will be presented at the International Maritime Defense Show in St. Petersburg on July 3.”
    Be sure to go and see our handsome man close !!!
  7. Trailer
    Trailer 28 June 2013 09: 04 New
    0
    Where is the helicopter? And so the news is good, that's just the deadlines are broken, mom do not grieve!
  8. leon-iv
    leon-iv 28 June 2013 09: 15 New
    +3
    What interests me most is how you are doing with Polement Redoubt. Without him, he would have been on the go for a long time.
  9. shamil
    shamil 28 June 2013 09: 45 New
    0
    I do not understand TARK Gorshkov and frigate Gorshkov 2 pots
    1. Bronis
      Bronis 28 June 2013 10: 00 New
      0
      No, the “Eagles” was not called that, we had the 1143.4 aircraft carrier “Admiral Gorshkov”. Now - Vikramaditya. Here is the name and freed ...
      1. shamil
        shamil 28 June 2013 10: 07 New
        +1
        I understood everything mixed up with ushakov
  10. Mhpv
    Mhpv 28 June 2013 10: 03 New
    0
    I just don’t understand why they switched to a classification like corvette, frigate, destroyer, because it was much clearer in the USSR to IPC, BOD, SKR, etc. Again, a tribute to a fashionable foreign name, I do not take into account the qualification of sailing ships, then they corresponded more to these types.
    1. Bronis
      Bronis 28 June 2013 11: 44 New
      0
      Now it is not clear at all how and what they switched to. Old projects are called as before. New - in the western. In principle, the basis of the Soviet classification is the purpose. "multifunctionality" is now in fashion. In essence, the Stereguschiy is a guard, with promising frigates it’s more difficult. the name is no longer quite right. In any case, the tendency is that the triad of a corvette-frigate-destroyer will differ in seaworthiness, autonomy and ammunition, and they will not have narrow specialization.
      And yet, we officially have RTOs and new ones (Buyany-M), although such ships are often referred to as corvettes.
      1. Mhpv
        Mhpv 28 June 2013 12: 25 New
        0
        In general, when they created MBTs, now it seems they are creating OBS (Main Combat Aircraft T 50), well, then there is OBK (Main Combat Ship), OBPL, etc.
        For me, the classification of ships in the USSR is much clearer than now UBDK (UBDK it will be before the first hostilities)
  11. jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 28 June 2013 22: 14 New
    +1
    at first I was delighted and then I read the comments, it turns out especially and there is nothing .. well, why is there where is the money there and what kind of BLACK HOUSES are formed right there? Can it be that the FSB and others do not see or know anything? to spit yes to wipe the beech .. why did they spread the monopolies alone? that aviation that shipbuilding that tank building everywhere some monsters of bellies on clay feet did