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Romania will buy flying coffins from Portugal

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A few days ago, Romania announced its plans to upgrade the material part of the air force. In the near future, military pilots will receive 12 new American-made F-16 multi-purpose fighter jets. This purchase is expected to significantly increase the combat potential of the Romanian Air Force. However, despite the fact that the relevant contract has not yet been signed, the deal has already been criticized by experts and the public concerned.




According to the Romanian press, 19 June, the government approved the proposed purchase of American-made General Dynamics F-12 Fighting Falcon X-NUMX fighter jets. It is planned to spend 16 million euros for the purchase of aircraft. An interesting source of funds allocated to finance the purchase. The required amount is planned to receive from the sale of licenses and radio frequencies for communication standard 628G. Over the next few years, ANCOM, which is responsible for the regulation of radio frequencies and communications, is expected to provide the treasury with the necessary receipts for the purchase.

As a justification for the purchase of these aircraft, two facts were cited. First, after joining NATO, Romania needs to bring its armed forces in line with the organization’s standards. Secondly, the fighter unit of the Romanian military is currently aviation It includes no more than four dozen MiG-21 aircraft of Soviet production. A few years ago, the Romanian Air Force modernized this technique, having resorted to the help of Israeli aircraft manufacturers, but this did not help bring the capabilities of outdated aircraft to an acceptable level. Thus, according to the Romanian Ministry of Defense, the purchase of 12 F-16 aircraft will have only positive consequences for the air force.

And yet the upcoming deal has been criticized. The main reason for it was the "origin" of the fighter purchased. The fact is that Romania will not acquire F-16 from the United States, i.e. directly from the manufacturer, and from Portugal. The Western European state, in turn, put up for sale fighter aircraft modifications F-16A and F-16B, received from the United States in the nineties. In this part of the aircraft before the transfer of the Portuguese Air Force for some time operated by American pilots. Thus, Romania will get not just used fighters, but already used by the two countries. Such re-export, even in the light of the capabilities of the aircraft sold, looks at least strange. Nevertheless, the Romanian Ministry of Defense is completely quite an existing proposal and has already led it through the appropriate echelons of power.

It is already known what will happen with the Portuguese aircraft before their transfer to Romania. As the Romanian Defense Minister M. Soul said, the fighters will go to a new duty station only in 2015, and before that they will be renovated and upgraded to the Block 40 version. Resource planes will be extended and they will be able to serve in the air forces of Romania for the next years. However, this fact was immediately criticized. According to the opinion that has been spread in recent months, the repair and modernization will not be able to fully restore the service life of the machines and therefore the “double maintenance” of the aircraft purchased will have a very bad effect on the future of the Romanian Air Force. The resource issue has meant that in some Romanian media, the purchased F-16 has received the offensive nickname “flying coffins” hinting at their current state.

Another reason for criticism - the amount of the transaction. With a total contract value of 628 million euros, it turns out that each of the used fighters together with the modernization will cost the Romanian treasury and, as a result, taxpayers will be around 52 million. Thus, the price of a used, but modernized F-16 fighter is approximately at the same level as the cost of one of the latest modifications. The details of the planned modernization of the aircraft have not yet been published, but even with the available information, such prices look dubious and the perturbations of the Romanian public are understandable. In addition, it is necessary to take into account that Romania is going through hard times and cannot boast of a strong economy. Although it is argued that payments under the contract will be made within five years, there are concerns about the negative consequences they may have on the entire economy of the country.

It is worth noting that Romania could have avoided such a large expenditure and a corresponding reaction from the public. A few years ago, the Swedish company Saab offered the Romanian Air Force its JAS 39 Gripen fighter jets. If necessary, the Swedish aircraft manufacturers were willing to make concessions, including the transfer of aircraft on lease. In the 2010 year, when the Romanian military was about to buy an 24 used F-16 fighter, Saab made a proposal to supply the same number of new Gripenes for the same money. To facilitate payment at that time, an installment plan was offered for a period of 15 years with the lowest possible percentage. The Romanian leadership became interested in the Swedish commercial offer, but over time it was forced to reject it. The fact is that the United States and Portugal made a number of unfriendly statements hinting at possible problems in the event of failure to purchase F-16 fighter jets. Thus, Romania did not continue negotiations with Sweden and resumed consultations with the United States and Portugal.

Perhaps Romania’s purchase of used Portuguese F-16 was also influenced by rivalry in the region. Bucharest and Budapest have long considered each other as geopolitical opponents, which leads to appropriate military-political decisions. Now, the air forces of Romania and Hungary are approximately equal in their combat capabilities, but there are several nuances that can change the existing picture. First of all, it is a leasing agreement between Hungary and Sweden. Because of him, the Hungarian Air Force is forced to save the resource of aircraft. The used Portuguese F-16, in turn, will become the property of Romania. According to some sources, Bucharest intends to operate repaired and refurbished American-made aircraft until the mid-thirties, and this should have a corresponding impact on the balance of forces in the region.

An interesting fact is that not only Romania is currently trying to update its fleet of fighter aircraft. This is also being done by other Eastern European countries that are actively cooperating with NATO. At the same time, only Poland achieved particular success in updating the Air Force. In recent years, the Polish air force has received four dozen F-16 fighter jets of several modifications, including combat training. Hungary and the Czech Republic are not yet able to purchase aircraft for ownership, but, nevertheless, need new equipment. Because of this, they rented JAS 14 Gripen fighters from Sweden for Sweden, including two for the training version. Bulgaria may join the list of countries renewing their air forces with used vehicles. Over the past few months, the Bulgarian military have chosen the right planes. As applicants are considered to be in operation Portuguese F-39 and Italian Eurofighter Typhoon. An alternative to these aircraft can be the new Swedish JAS 16. However, Bulgaria currently does not have such financial capabilities that will allow it to buy the necessary number of necessary aircraft.

In a specific situation around the purchase of Portuguese Portuguese fighters Romania intricately intertwined the interests of several European and one American state. As each country seeks to get its own benefit and not fail, the parties dissatisfied with the development of events will surely remain. In the current environment, the public is unhappy and does not understand why 628 should spend millions of euros to buy the entire 12 used aircraft. As for the military and political leadership of Romania, it is likely to bring the matter to the signing of the contract and update the air force. However, all arguments against such a deal or in favor of alternative options will be ignored, since none of the countries related to the future contract intends to lose its benefits. The dissatisfied public will only have to observe the course of negotiations and the supply of repaired and updated, but still used fighters.


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  1. MilaPhone
    MilaPhone 28 June 2013 07: 09 New
    16
    The “flying coffin” is the Lockheed F-104G Starfighter manufactured specifically for Germany, where over the course of 10 years 205 catastrophes occurred. These planes caused hatred and fear among the pilots for which they received this nickname.
    1. kagorta
      kagorta 28 June 2013 08: 35 New
      +5
      He does not have an official nickname - widowmaker widowmaker
      1. Airman
        Airman 28 June 2013 09: 59 New
        0
        Quote: kagorta
        He does not have an official nickname - widowmaker widowmaker


        I am sorry for the Romanian pilots, one consolation is that there are only 12 aircraft.
        1. knn54
          knn54 28 June 2013 16: 20 New
          +2
          -POshnik: I feel sorry for the Romanian pilots.
          But I really feel sorry for the Russians, if they join NATO ...
          1. omsbon
            omsbon 28 June 2013 18: 16 New
            +2
            Quote: knn54
            And I really feel sorry for our people, they will “impose” us if we join NATO ..

            Of course, I don’t give a damn what the gypsies will fly, in the end it’s their gypsy business, but I think it won’t get to Ukraine’s entry into the fictitious masses, that is, to NATO!
            So, don’t worry Nikolay, we’ll fly on dryers and jets!
          2. Old_kapitan
            Old_kapitan 28 June 2013 19: 43 New
            +1
            But I really feel sorry for the Russians, if they join NATO ...
            Do not worry, if you haven’t entered the ghoul, then now we’ll definitely not.
      2. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 28 June 2013 23: 12 New
        0
        Quote: kagorta
        He does not have an official nickname - widowmaker widowmaker

        Most likely a widower *
    2. politruk419
      politruk419 28 June 2013 08: 46 New
      +4
      In the 90m passed on the UK "Perekop" La Channel. And before that, such crap flew over us.
      1. 755962
        755962 28 June 2013 10: 04 New
        +4
        Forgive the old one, which is off topic. But the same is about aviation ..
        Drive a predator. To the shame of the F-22 "Reptor"

        Recently a very interesting video appeared on the network. It captures a training air battle between the French Rafale fighter and the American X-NUMX fighter of the F-5 Raptor generation. And oddly enough, in this training match the pilot of the American fighter (who is considered the best fighter to achieve air superiority) turns out to be a bit! And not just once, but with the 22: 4 score in favor of the French in a series of five training battles!


        http://www.odnako.org/blogs/show_26530/
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 28 June 2013 21: 24 New
          +1
          Let them be "flying coffins !, but there it will be written made in USA.
          In Romania, sticking into the ground on an American plane is a prestigious affair!
  2. Marconi41
    Marconi41 28 June 2013 07: 32 New
    +3
    Strange some kind of savings! However, installments from the United States are possible. For example, the United States pays for the F-16 of Portugal, and provides time for the payment of Romania. Too many unknowns to understand the essence of the transaction. Well, in any case, the F-16 is more preferable than the MiG-21 even with Israeli avionics (it is clear that they will not buy MiGs from us).
    1. Mister X
      Mister X 28 June 2013 13: 50 New
      0
      Quote: Marconi41
      Well, in any case, the F-16 is more preferable than the MiG-21, even with Israeli avionics

      Why change obsolete to used?
      It will turn out like in a saying: change bronze to feta cheese ...

      And 20 years ago, Romanians talked about the production under license of Cobra helicopters.
      Everything is numb to our former allies.

      They entered NATO, and Moldovan soldiers are sent to hot spots.
      Want to go to the EU? Then send Moldavian sappers to Iraq.
    2. dustycat
      dustycat 28 June 2013 19: 28 New
      0
      What is the saving? What is the modernization?
      If someone does not understand.
      One AMERICAN company gives money to buy air junk through Portugal to modernize this junk from another AMERICAN company and supplies this tinted Romania air junk.
      Simple corruption scheme.
      This is not some kind of rollback to you, even in 90%.
      Here, the entire amount does not go beyond one bank.
  3. GOLUBENKO
    GOLUBENKO 28 June 2013 07: 35 New
    +3
    The Romanian Air Force is right to swear, for knowing the capabilities of the Soviet MiGs and knowing about the Russian MiGs and Dryers, against which the mattress aircraft industry manure in a beautiful wrapper.
  4. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 28 June 2013 07: 56 New
    +8
    Like in an old joke, cut my wings but I want to see it wassat Two superpowers - Romania and Hungary entered a phase of geopolitical confrontation fool
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 28 June 2013 08: 12 New
      +5
      Quote: Ruslan67
      ve superpowers-Romania and Hungary entered a phase of geopolitical confrontation

      They share spheres of influence in the Arctic.
    2. 3 inches.
      3 inches. 28 June 2013 09: 34 New
      +2
      They have a conflict for a long time. Even in World War II, a large number of troops were kept at the borders. It seems that in 2 even things came to a border conflict. They will not share the estate of the Count Dracula.
      1. smile
        smile 28 June 2013 17: 07 New
        +1
        3 inches.
        Yes, even their common owner - Hitler did not reconcile. And on the Eastern Front, their troops did not set up with each other ... By the way, I believe that in a hypothetical conflict the Hungarians will make them - they have incompatible fighting qualities.
    3. Lexx
      Lexx 28 June 2013 11: 41 New
      0
      There is an old conflict over Transylvania.
  5. Old_kapitan
    Old_kapitan 28 June 2013 08: 00 New
    +3
    But nefig was to join NATO. Now they would buy the MiG-29 from Russia for the same price.
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 28 June 2013 19: 32 New
      0
      Yes, I think they would sell them to us for half the sum of the Chinese Jays two times as many.
      And that would be much more useful.
      Simple laundering of budget dead American presidents.
  6. NOMADE
    NOMADE 28 June 2013 08: 15 New
    +3
    "In the current conditions, the public is dissatisfied, not understanding why to spend 628 million euros for the purchase of a total of 12 used aircraft
    ))) Hmm .. beautifully they "bend", especially during the crisis in Europe. Keep it up)) Still need to apply similar schemes to: Poland, Lithuania, Latvia))
    1. King
      King 28 June 2013 08: 29 New
      0
      there this scheme has been operating for a long time. think why the Yankees didn’t sell their old F-16s themselves. Yes, because now, as part of the renewal of the Air Force fleet, they are bringing in an unfinished F-35.
    2. teodorh
      teodorh 28 June 2013 13: 44 New
      0
      The Baltic countries do not have an air force. Their skies are patrolling the NATO Air Force.
    3. dustycat
      dustycat 28 June 2013 19: 34 New
      0
      Lithuania and Latvia have problems with refueling all two helicopters - the State Department will definitely not give them dough.
  7. Old_kapitan
    Old_kapitan 28 June 2013 08: 27 New
    +3
    Still need to apply such schemes to: Poland, Lithuania, Latvia))
    So Pshekov at one time already bent, steaming at a reasonable price for the used "Leopards". I don’t remember Tsyfir now, but it didn’t work out poorly - a fact, I wrote an article on this subject.
    1. NOMADE
      NOMADE 28 June 2013 08: 32 New
      0
      )) Yeah, I remembered. Here it is, the real face of "friendly", "honest" and "partner" Europe)))
      1. Old_kapitan
        Old_kapitan 28 June 2013 08: 39 New
        0
        ) Yeah, I remembered. Here it is, the real face of "friendly", "honest" and "partner" Europe)))
        Yes, where does Europe - she herself has long been in the pope. This is NATO, and NATO is the States. And the States constantly climb all holes without soap.
  8. Cat
    Cat 28 June 2013 08: 30 New
    +4
    But nefig was - Ukraine to move territorial claims. The cunning xoxls were offended, and pissed off: they decided with Portugal (the benefit of our dofigisa there), plus they promised the Amers that they wouldn’t join the Customs Union for half a year more. And in such a mean way they pushed a deal aimed at undermining the military and economic power of the enemy Romanians =)))
    1. Old_kapitan
      Old_kapitan 28 June 2013 08: 32 New
      +2
      But nefig was - Ukraine to move territorial claims. The cunning xoxls were offended, and pissed off: they decided with Portugal (the benefit of our dofigisa there), plus they promised the Amers that they wouldn’t join the Customs Union for half a year more. And in such a mean way they pushed a deal aimed at undermining the military and economic power of the enemy Romanians =)))

      laughing good
  9. cartridge
    cartridge 28 June 2013 08: 38 New
    +4
    Used Portuguese F-16s, in turn, will become the property of Romania.
  10. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM 28 June 2013 09: 16 New
    0
    Nothing, fly a couple of times and sell again
    what thread of Latvia 1 pc to fly with one MOOSTABLE tank wassat
  11. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 28 June 2013 09: 18 New
    +1
    Horseradish to hell to change - only time to lose.

    Without the NATO bloc, they are empty space, and in the bloc - consumables, it is probably unpleasant to understand that you are being held for meat.
  12. pensioner
    pensioner 28 June 2013 09: 19 New
    +1
    A few days ago, Romania announced its plans to update the materiel of the air force.
    The Western European state, in turn, put up for sale fighter modifications F-16A and F-16B, received from the United States in the nineties. At the same time, some planes were operated by American pilots for some time before being transferred to the Portuguese Air Force. Thus, Romania will receive not just used fighters, but already used by two countries.

    No fuy yourself update !! With a new thing, gentlemen, gentlemen. Happily at .. meters back that way with 10000. "There is nothing to eat, but we’ll give back nearly a billion Baku to used planes!" - iron logic...
  13. Leisure
    Leisure 28 June 2013 09: 31 New
    +1
    Well, tell me what it is acutenecessity forces "Greater Romania" to spend money on weapons. Or in Romania, all economic problems have been resolved and the snickering people do not know where to spend the money.
    1. Old_kapitan
      Old_kapitan 28 June 2013 09: 35 New
      +2
      Well, explain to me what such an urgent need forces “Greater Romania” to spend money on weapons.
      And where do they go? NATA said nada, the Romanians answered - yes!
    2. Alexander D.
      Alexander D. 28 June 2013 16: 27 New
      -1
      Quote: Lazer
      Well, tell me what it is acutenecessity forces "Greater Romania" to spend money on weapons. Or in Romania, all economic problems have been resolved and the snickering people do not know where to spend the money.

      Are you sure they have nothing to eat there? I was in Romania last year. There is a fairly developed industry. Factories built all new and high-tech. Shipyards in Constanta operate at full capacity. The roads there are such to which not only Ukraine, but even Russia still has to grow and grow. Romania’s GDP is almost twice that of Ukraine.
      PS: I advise you to visit Bucharest - a very, very beautiful city.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 28 June 2013 19: 33 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander D.
        Romania’s GDP is almost twice that of Ukraine.

        According to the IMF and CPA lists, Ukraine’s GDP is significantly higher than Romania’s, and only according to the World Bank list is approximate equality.
        http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Список_стран_по_ВВП_(ППС)
        1. vikontas56
          vikontas56 28 June 2013 22: 04 New
          0
          Quote: Alexander D Romania's GDP is almost twice as much as in Ukraine However, with all this, Romania slipped into last place in the EU and became considered the poorest EU country! EU experts call Romania "an economic corpse" and transferred to junk - garbage ! And this is in the presence of oil, gas and gold!
    3. dustycat
      dustycat 28 June 2013 19: 42 New
      0
      Here panimash what a problem ...
      Moldavia to them as a part of something suddenly got sick.
      And part of the coast from Odessa and to the west suddenly suddenly became stubborn too.
      And then there are long-standing graters with Hungary.
      Well, in the light of the so carefully advertised impending world war, the Romanians dream of a redivision of Europe.
      Here is just an example of Yugoslavia, they are very incomprehensible that the redistribution will be just at the expense of their territory.
      1. vikontas56
        vikontas56 28 June 2013 22: 19 New
        +1
        Moldova never wanted to be part of Romania! Even according to the pro-Romanian opinion polls, Romania wants no more than 12-14%! 57% for an alliance with Russia, 34% for the EU! This is only the pro-Romanian government gears to the EU, which protects the Romanians to the capture of Moldova!
  14. NektoRU
    NektoRU 28 June 2013 09: 33 New
    +1
    Something like cutting a budget ...
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 28 June 2013 19: 43 New
      0
      I didn’t even cut it.
      A direct flow from the treasury into your pocket.
  15. Ulysses
    Ulysses 28 June 2013 09: 38 New
    +1
    Turned the United States with Portugal Romanian hands.
    Together with pockets.
    And Fule, such is it "democracy." laughing
    1. Trapperxnumx
      Trapperxnumx 28 June 2013 14: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: Ulysses
      Turned the United States with Portugal Romanian hands.
      Together with pockets.
      And Fule, such is it "democracy." laughing

      And Portugal will now have a "super-duper new" to buy F35)))
  16. svp67
    svp67 28 June 2013 10: 15 New
    +3
    Nonetheless, the Romanian Ministry of Defense was completely satisfied with the proposal and had already passed it through the appropriate echelons of power.
    It seems that Serdyukov has many relatives abroad ...
  17. Russ69
    Russ69 28 June 2013 12: 07 New
    0
    The story with Poland is repeated. those also vtyuhali used. As a result of 16 aircraft 3 in working condition.
  18. misham
    misham 28 June 2013 12: 22 New
    0
    And how many fighters do Romanians need at all. 12 pieces are not enough. One squadron, 2-3 of them will be constantly under repair (the cars are not new). Maybe they still take it for development and study, and then they will take used second-hand from the US Air Force reserves (as part of NATO assistance)
    Also, this amount is not clear only modernized aircraft or plus additional ground equipment, spare parts, ext. engines and ammunition.
    The amount is certainly not small, but even the gypsies (Romanians) are so brazenly afraid to rub. The situation in the triangle of Amer-Portugal-Hominy is not clear. Who to whom and why
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 28 June 2013 19: 45 New
      0
      All that shines for them is the same strongly BU freshly painted Raptor.
      Unless, of course, after 2017, such a state will still exist.
      What British politicians strongly doubt.
  19. urich
    urich 28 June 2013 12: 26 New
    +3
    And for me, so good news good Firstly, nothing pleases so much as the failure of a neighbor. Sooner or later, the Romanians will still understand that they were made of suckers. Secondly, why the heck are we near our borders with new military equipment from unfriendly neighbors?
    P.S. And in the kit for these fighters it was necessary to fit glass beads or a set of consumer goods, and in the cockpit of the fighters to install two-cassette recorders with colored lights in the columns! It would be cool!
    1. Alexander D.
      Alexander D. 28 June 2013 16: 28 New
      0
      Quote: urich
      And for me, so good news good Firstly, nothing pleases so much as the failure of a neighbor. Sooner or later, the Romanians will still understand that they were made of suckers. Secondly, why the heck are we near our borders with new military equipment from unfriendly neighbors?
      P.S. And in the kit for these fighters it was necessary to fit glass beads or a set of consumer goods, and in the cockpit of the fighters to install two-cassette recorders with colored lights in the columns! It would be cool!

      Well, Russia is certainly large in territory, but not by as much - where do you and the Romanians have a common border ?!
      1. dustycat
        dustycat 28 June 2013 19: 47 New
        +1
        And where does China and Canada share a common border? Will be...
      2. urich
        urich 28 June 2013 21: 57 New
        0
        Alexander D. See the map! Through the Black Sea. Theoretically, over neutral waters. And in order to get into the space of Russia, even permission from Ukraine does not have to be asked
  20. montemor
    montemor 28 June 2013 12: 49 New
    +1
    not far from us is the air base of the Portuguese Air Force No. 1 in Sintra. F 16 fly regularly, and the last couple of months have generally been taken over. Probably they will develop a resource before transferring the sides to the allies
  21. _KM_
    _KM_ 28 June 2013 13: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: montemor
    Likely to produce a resource, before transferring the sides to the allies


    Dorval. :)
  22. pitr
    pitr 28 June 2013 13: 43 New
    +3
    EVERYTHING IS SIMPLE - ROLLBACK. 10% - THE FIGURE IS INTERESTING. Enough for everyone.
    1. Trapperxnumx
      Trapperxnumx 28 June 2013 14: 49 New
      0
      Quote: pitr
      EVERYTHING IS SIMPLE - ROLLBACK. 10% - THE FIGURE IS INTERESTING. Enough for everyone.


      Misha 2%? More precisely, Corneliu 10% lol
      1. dustycat
        dustycat 28 June 2013 19: 51 New
        0
        What 10% ???
        What are you?
        Count for yourself.
        100% from Romania from one American company to another (LTE is an American 4G!).
        100% for the new F35 from Portugal.
        100% from Portugal for the disposal of F16.
        Yes, our oligrahs with such a freebie will stop sleeping.
        And you Serdyukov-farts ...
  23. Anton-i-oni
    Anton-i-oni 28 June 2013 14: 58 New
    +2
    you're all about the "cut budget", "update" fleet ...
    But they forgot about the main thing - WHO WILL ROMAN RADIO FREQUENCY FOR LTE TO BUY (at whose expense will this "update" take place)?

    Quote: "It is planned to spend 628 million euros on the purchase of aircraft. An interesting source of funds allocated to finance the purchase. The necessary amount is planned to be obtained from the sale of licenses and radio frequencies for communication 4G standard."

    Waiting for your comments, I'll go running for popcorn :)
    1. montemor
      montemor 28 June 2013 15: 26 New
      0
      Duc Romanian operators will buy, the 4g market is a promising niche, licenses and frequencies will be grabbed like hot cakes, IMHO laughing
      1. Anton-i-oni
        Anton-i-oni 28 June 2013 15: 35 New
        +1
        ... sadly chewing popcorn ...
        but I’m afraid that our Vimplek will buy these frequencies, or even some rich uncle from Russia and it will be pretty sad.
        1. dustycat
          dustycat 28 June 2013 19: 57 New
          0
          Actually, Vimpelcom has already bought the whole range of LTE from Hungary. Has long been.
          And taking into account the area of ​​the territory, 50% of the area of ​​the territory of Romania is already covered.
          If we add to this the Bulgarian piece of LTE purchased by the pennant committee ...
          Yes, and the pennant itself seems to already have a main office on Virginia.
          That’s what Rostelecom could get under Vimpelcom’s control - this could be an interesting situation.
  24. dima1993
    dima1993 28 June 2013 16: 02 New
    +1
    romania UTB PPC! weak country weak people weak leaders! why do they need old stuff and finally why do they need their airplanes NATO protects!)))))
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 28 June 2013 19: 58 New
      0
      Protects or guards so that Russia does not go away?
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  26. Orty
    Orty 28 June 2013 20: 05 New
    +1
    As far as I know, back in the 80s, the Romanians had their own aviation industry and they came close to creating their own 4th generation fighter. And what happened to her (Romania) now? The banana republic, which only remains to puff up what it says is Europe, is interesting that the Romanians themselves understand what ... they got into? Or are they still firmly convinced that if they had not sworn, they would have lived like Germany? It is precisely in aviation that the difference in approaches between the USSR and the EU-USA is manifested, we did so that the country would provide for itself, most of its needs. Those. All ATS countries were developed industrially, scientifically, and culturally. Moreover, the population took this for granted without realizing that competitors are not needed in the Western system, and here is the result. All this is sad.
  27. Algor73
    Algor73 28 June 2013 22: 27 New
    +2
    I would not be in a hurry to recklessly call an article. Still, the F-16 is not a "flying coffin." And not such a bad plane. But I do not think that Romania is rearming through Ukraine - its status is binding. Europe strengthens the borders in the East - immediately Poland, now Romania, then it will pull up other countries. The outflow of weapons from Western and Central Europe to Eastern. For what reason? Conclusions can be made different ...
  28. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 29 June 2013 01: 08 New
    0
    Quote: Algor73
    Conclusions can be made different ...

    Well, if for tezhe money you can take new planes, then the conclusion begs
    by itself. At least Portugal is NATOer than Romania. It looks like a cut, and
    in the current state, for the USA, what's the difference on what they are, even on the poker
    golopom.Moreover, independent decisions of the country from central Europe
    not always able to afford, then small ones from the eastern God himself (or the USA)
    ordered to bend.
  29. Slogin
    Slogin 29 June 2013 03: 22 New
    0
    Banal exhaustion of dough by a vassal (portugal) from his slave (romania). It is necessary to support the economy with something, but the sense is still small. For such boblos we could better buy from us: both better and more economically.
  30. strange and pretty meaningless
    strange and pretty meaningless 29 June 2013 06: 20 New
    +1
    "... The fact is that the United States and Portugal made a series of unfriendly statements that hinted at possible problems if they refused to purchase F-16 fighters ..."
    - say - poisoned with mushrooms? !! And why is there no living place on it ...?
    - Duc, and this one ... he didn’t want to eat them.
    Here it is - the "perpetual motion machine" of American trade (weapons). But not some kind of advertisement. Plus "peeling", "rolling" and "brainwashing powder".
  31. Kowalsky
    Kowalsky 29 June 2013 19: 54 New
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    Airplanes, and missiles to them? Or will they also buy control units in the USA? :)