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K-48 SSGN of the 675 project. Combat Service 1966 Year 11 (?) December - 1967 Year 28 January

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From the memoirs of the former Commander of the Pacific Fleet, Admiral Amelko NN:


“In one of the visits to Primorye, Alexey Nikolayevich Kosygin decided to familiarize himself with the city of Nakhodka, where I delivered him on a large anti-submarine ship. In the city of Nakhodka, having heard the report of the Chairman of the City Executive Committee, he visited a commercial port, a ship repair factory and a canned food factory. On the way, I suggested to Alexey Nikolayevich to call at the base of nuclear submarines — this is on the way. He examined the base, its construction had just been completed, and was pleased with the fact that everything was in a complex: berths, barracks, missile storages, a sanitary inspection room, a laboratory. I offered to visit one of the submarines, on the eve of the returned from a military campaign. He agreed. In the sanitary inspection room I donned a blue work gown, I passed a dose check, and we entered the boat, which he climbed completely. The staff was interested in service, life, food. In each compartment was interested in the purpose of the mechanisms, the reliability of work. He was very pleased with the boat. ”


I would like to share with you my impressions about the campaign of this submarine.

K-48 SSGN of the 675 project. Combat Service 1966 Year 11 (?) December - 1967 Year 28 January


Since May 1964, Soviet nuclear submarines instead of autonomous campaigns began to carry out military service in remote areas of the oceans. The Americans called it combat patrols.

After graduating from Paldiski, our crew arrived at 26 Dipl b. Pavlovsky to prepare for the reception of K-23 plark from industry. The newly built submarine K-23 of the 675 project was on the stocks of the shipbuilding plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur.

When I learned that one of the ships was going to the BS, I turned to the F-1 division with a request to take part in this campaign, because I always believed that the navigator should be at sea all his free time. This is the only maritime profession in the Navy. Not a floating navigator that is not an operating surgeon. Having received permission, I transferred the cases to the younger navigator and, together with my commander and mechanic, departed to the leaving square.

In December, the X-NUMX of the K-1966 project of the 48 675 project under the command of the captain of the 26 rank A. P. Katyshev (later the rear admiral Hero of the Soviet Union) received a military order and left the Bay of Pavlovsk Bay Shooters to perform military service in the Philippine sea.

The commander of the BC-1 was Captain 3 of rank Astashin Yevgeny Vasilyevich, the commander of the ENG was Senior Lieutenant V. Shakhvorostov I. By mutual agreement, I took over the navigator watch from 20.00 to 8.00, i.e., all night so that the navigator could carry go about your daily business. The trekking route passed through the Sea of ​​Japan, the East China and the Philippine Seas, through the Korea Strait and the Takara Strait. Each of them had its own navigation features.

By evening, we came to the Korean Strait and surfaced. They decided to force it through the Eastern Passage. Ahead of the course, we saw that all the sea was in lights from Japanese and Korean fishing vessels, and fishing nets were blocking our way. We had to move with great caution for two reasons: firstly, it was possible to reel the fishing nets on the screws and lose our way, and secondly, we did not turn on the running lights, walked like a ghost.

In connection with the discovery of several dozen shipborne radar workers, they chose to operate the radar - “single-sight” with a frequency of 15 minutes. After the passage and diving to the approach to the Takara Strait, which connects the East China and the Philippine Seas, everything was fine. The passage of the Takara Strait is hampered by the high speed of the oncoming tidal current (from the Philippine Sea) to 8-10 nodes. This was a very serious problem when crossing the strait, not only for diesel boats, but also for nuclear powered ships. But everything went well.

Drew attention to the lighthouse Takara, which is located on about. Yak The lighthouse stands on a cliff a few hundred meters high and has an optical range of about 80 miles. In my opinion there are no beacons with such a long range in the whole world.

In the morning, after determining the location and reception of RDO, we suddenly found work in the active GAS mode (sonar), and then immediately work at about a dozen such stations. Having assessed the situation, the commander decided to continue moving to the area of ​​the Combat Service, having gone for stealth "under the jump layer" to the depth of 180-200 meters. The work of many sonars, we observed a few hours.

Having subsided into the periscope depth, we found the APUG consisting of: Essex WUA and with it up to thirty escort ships. This entire grouping followed from the area where they were fighting against the DRV, to the base in Okinawa for the celebration of Christmas. Therefore, we for them, as shown by the analysis of the results of intelligence, were unplanned and uninteresting. Being in the center of APUG gave the opportunity to visually feel what it means to get into such a situation in wartime.


The Essex USS Intrepid (CV-11), September 1966


Before the area of ​​military service was still a week of progress. In 5 days, when we approached the area during a communication session, we received an RDO - turn around to a new area located 1500 miles from our location and be ready to hover from the USP Pacific to intercept the newest US ships: the atomic strike aircraft carrier "Enterprise" and the frigate URO "Benbridge". Having considered the situation, they decided to go at full speed and take a new area within three days.

The big races began when all the mechanisms worked at maximum load for 80 hours. All were strained to the limit. The operation was under the personal control of the Navy CC and the Minister of Defense. We honorably fulfilled it. Although the last days were very intense: 50 minutes of full speed, ascent to the periscope depth, receiving the next RDO with the coordinates of the targets, and again diving and "race".

It is necessary to take into account the peculiarities of scuba diving in the Philippine Sea and the passage between the Mariana Islands and the Kazan Islands when entering the Pacific Ocean.

First, it is a region that has been poorly studied in hydrographic terms with frequent volcanic phenomena with the appearance and disappearance of entire islands. When lifting the ground, it was possible to touch it when moving even at a depth of 180 meters, while the depth on the map was several thousand meters. The case of touching the ground was from the K-57 platform in the same area a year earlier. Secondly, the presence of strong unexplored, and therefore unknown, submarine layer currents, when, depending on the depth of the dive, the speed and direction of the flow can be reversed, made it difficult to count.

The time for observation during the ascent under the periscope for a communication session was allocated 5-7 minutes, which, in conditions of heavy clouds, is extremely insufficient. We didn’t have any devices for determining the magnitude and direction of currents, and experience has shown that it is impossible to trust the materials of the station. We defined a place when surfacing a session every 12 hours. The difficulty of counting the current led to the appearance of discrepancies in the boat's space up to 20-30 miles. With such errors, the guidance when counter-moving two high-speed objects without the presence of on-board detection equipment with a long range is almost impossible.

I still wonder how we met with the American ships. It was about 17 hours local time. The evening twilight was just beginning. At the next communication session in the periscope, we found a "foe". He went straight course 270 gr. clearly to the West with the speed of 27 nodes, all in lights. The distance to it was 75-80 kb. He was clearly visible in the periscope. The senior assistant to the commander, Captain 2 of the rank of Alexandrov, determined from the silhouettes of the discovered ships that with the AUAA Enterprise there should be more than just a frigate, but the Bendbridge URO, which he reported to OKP TOF. We spent two torpedo attacks "conditionally", and then another 2 rocket. On paper, then everything looked beautiful. In life, the probability of going on the attack and destroying them was close to 2%.



Having finished combat maneuvering, we received an order to follow to a previously designated area, occupy it and start combat service. We returned to the main BS area 6 days. Maneuvering in the area is simple: 7 days lie on the same tack in the direction of Fr. Guam Apra Bay, where the US Navy 15 was exported (7 Madison planes), 7 days on the opposite tack. The mood of the entire crew after such a meeting with the Americans was elevated. In addition, the New Year was approaching, which everyone was looking forward to. True, he didn’t bring us anything good on his first day.

I took over the watch on the night under the new 1967 year. In 00.00, the boat commander congratulated the crew on the New Year and went to rest. It was here that events began to unfold one by one.

First, the amplifier burned in one of the instruments of the “Power H-675” navigation system, about which the navigators had a joke “God created four evils: Power, Lira and GA, and then he was stunned and invented GVL”. Having understood the reasons for the partial smoke of the compartment, they ventilated it and calmed down a bit. And here we again felt the smell of burning and again there was a partial smoke from the 4 compartment (on the 675 project, the CPU is located in the 4 compartment), since the periscope sextant GVL failed. Therefore, we lost the opportunity to determine our place in an astronomical way without ascent into a positional position. It took three days to fix the problem. During this time, our residual in place was about 38 miles.

At 3 at one o'clock in the morning, the commander went to inspect the l / s watch on the compartments. The watch mechanic sat behind the horizontal rudders for training, although this is not his business. Suddenly the boat stopped obeying horizontal rudders and began to differentiate on the nose. The watch mechanic and the watch officer at first thought that the commander decided to check them and gave the appropriate command to the watch station of the 10 (feed) compartment. In fact, there was a spell fodder horizontal steering rudder "to dive." It was only when the trim reached 12 gr on the nose, and we plunged from 100 to 160 meters, everyone realized that measures had to be taken. A command was given to the 10 bay, and the commander personally managed to put the RAG into action.

At about 5 in the morning there was another emergency. The foreman of the team of navigational electricians decided to celebrate the New Year and drank 0.5 a liter of alcohol, which he “saved” during the campaign. As a result, he had a cardiac arrest. The ship's doctor was no less drunk, but saved his life. This is professionalism.

At this trouble did not stop. The commander of the warhead-5 ordered that bathing in the shower of the 8 compartment for the warmer-driver suite (non-mechanical warhead), only up to the 22.00 clock. It was his “initiative” that could lead to big trouble. At 23, an officer of the BC-3 went into the shower. As soon as he soaped, the watch-keeping electrician pulled the fuse on the switchgear, following the directions of the CU-5 commander. Because Since the water heater was energized, this led to a short circuit and fire of the shield, which was immediately reported to the CPU from the watch bilge 8-th compartment. After the report he using IDP (air-foam fire extinguishing)put out the fire. This took 10 – 12 seconds. The shield was covered with foam, and the fire was eliminated. A few hours later, electricians cleaned this shield, and what they thought about the mechanics can only be guessed.

But everything comes to an end. The moment came when we finished military service in the area and lay down on the course to the base. But it was not there. Through 6 hours We got a new RDO. "Take a new area (500x900 miles in size), located 1200 miles northeast, and start searching for American SSBNs, ready to detect long-term covert tracking with detection." On the occupation of the area we were allocated 60 hours. So again, a great race.

It should be noted that acoustic specialists of the 675 project called “Roaring Cow” because of the high noise level of the working mechanisms (especially because of the “whistle” of the GTZA reducer). American plagues had noise equal to the background, so it was almost impossible to detect them with our gas. Everyone knew about it, except those who commanded us. But the order is an order and it must be executed. We plotted a new area, calculated the route and, having cut in the most complete, rushed forward.

At this time, the occupant appeared in the central post and reported to the commander that we would have enough food only for the time of returning to the base, i.e. just enough. If we extend the combat service on 15-20 of the day, and it was real, in the RSO, this was explicitly said, then we will have nothing.

Such a case was already on the K-57 fleet, when the commander of 26, dipl Rear Admiral Korban V. Ya., Went on a hike with them. Moreover, he went aboard 15 minutes before the recoil of the mooring lines. The quartermaster was caught stealing and decided to save on the march and cover the shortage. The products were on 45 days. The term for BS to be extended by 15 days. L / s fed very poorly. In the morning, one dryer and a glass of tea, at lunch a can of stew on 3-them, in the evening one dryer and tea. Everyone thought that the return of the quartermaster would be planted, but they felt sorry for him.

After two and a half days, we took a new area and positioned the course of the boat so that the first 5 days we were as close as possible to the base. On the second day, in the evening, we received a new RDO “Commander to arrive at the rendezvous point (near our base) to 18.00 28 in January 1967. Crew to be ready for the meeting of the Head of the Soviet Government.”

We turned on the “Wave” receiver and heard in the latest news that Chairman of the USSR Council of Ministers A.N. Kosygin arrived in Primorsky Krai. Everything became clear to us. Alexey Nikolaevich wants to see a nuclear submarine returning from a military campaign. All began to hint to the commander that, they say, it’s time to drill a hole for the Hero.

And again, in full swing through the three seas home. Over the hike the PL took place in full swing over 250 hours. There has never been such a use of GSU for first-generation APL on a BS. Came on time, with a margin of 35 minutes. The last three days on the boat was a big tidy with a tint. All "licked" and put things in order. On January 28, the ship flew off at the pier, and we, three seconded, went to our barracks.

Indeed, on the morning of January 29, the Head of the Soviet Government boarded the boat. He examined, thanked the crew, but neither the Head of the Soviet Government, nor the Navy Civil Code, nor Kom Fleet. None at all. It’s good that at least they didn’t punish what they would find. It is not without reason that the proverb goes to the Navy, the highest measure of incentive is the removal of a previously imposed penalty.

Yes. Only on the shore I saw the deputy commander for political affairs, who was the first to leave the ship and go to the PO with a report. It turns out he was with us on board, too, but during the whole campaign I had never seen him not only in the CPU, but also in the mess. It was evidently "difficult" for him. How can you not remember the quatrain dedicated to the political director, published in the journal Communist of the Armed Forces No. 9-1964:

I went to rest, he stayed on duty.
The sea continued to storm for a long time.
Many times I went off the watch,
There was no one to replace Zampolit!


Years have passed. The great confrontation is over, and only the medal to the “Veteran of the Cold War at Sea” reminds of the affairs of bygone days.
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  1. Old_kapitan
    Old_kapitan 28 June 2013 07: 52 New
    +9
    The article is interesting, but some points ...
    navigator all free time should be at sea. This is the only naval profession in the Navy.
    Well, of course, while the navigator is at sea, the commander with the senior commander and the KGDU can calmly play the flip ... In the Navy, the only non-maritime profession is a political officer.
    Because the water heater was energized, this led to a short circuit and fire shield
    Since when does a circuit break lead to a short circuit? Such a luxury could blurt out.
    especially because of the "whistle" GTZA reducer
    The turbine is whistling, the gearbox, as it should be, growls.
    Well, in general, a definite plus. There would be more such articles, but in the public domain.
    1. nnnnnn
      nnnnnn 28 June 2013 12: 30 New
      +1
      I apologize where did you serve? North, Kamchatka? which project? I am Kamchatka 25 division 667BDR
      1. Old_kapitan
        Old_kapitan 28 June 2013 13: 01 New
        +2
        I apologize where did you serve? North, Kamchatka? which project? I am Kamchatka 25 division 667BDR
        North, Gremikha, 41-I Division, 667Б
        1. Vadim-ragalevich
          Vadim-ragalevich 28 June 2013 20: 06 New
          +1
          Hi colleague ! From 1973 to 1979 - "K-279-2". KGavt.OKS. Commanders -Kholod V.V., then Lykov G.D.
          1. Old_kapitan
            Old_kapitan 29 June 2013 12: 21 New
            +1
            Hello! I came to the crew in 1979, when K-279 in Severodvinsk was on the capital. And when she left, we became - K-447 (Kuversky L.R.) became. After sub-ice we went to repair, and K-279 replaced us there: from December 1982 to May 1983 (164 days) under the ice. Crews directly at sea changed!
      2. Misantrop
        Misantrop 28 June 2013 15: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: nnnnnn
        I'm Kamchatka 25th Division 667BDR

        I was in this division for an experience, in March 1983. Beautiful places
      3. stjrm
        stjrm 30 June 2013 18: 36 New
        0
        On which BDR? By whom?
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. dustycat
      dustycat 28 June 2013 23: 06 New
      +2
      If you remove the insert in the house ASU with a current of 70% or more of the nominal value, it will blaze.
      This is in household where there are two boots between the tires.
      If the same thing is done in the circuit breaker without arcing, then a short circuit for three phases is guaranteed.
      Himself repeatedly observed and eliminated the results.
      How ShchRy burn - any electrician will tell. By the compactness of the packaging, they are very close to those used on the SSBN. At least they look very funny. And they are being made at one factory.
  2. Andrey77
    Andrey77 28 June 2013 13: 49 New
    +1
    The foreman of the team of navigational electricians decided to celebrate the New Year and drank 0.5 liters of alcohol, which he "saved" during the campaign. As a result, he had a cardiac arrest. The ship's doctor was no less drunk, but he saved his life. This is professionalism.
    --
    If the dock was drunk, what to say about the rest ... Is it professionalism?
    --
    I still wonder how we met with American ships.
    --
    No wonder see above.
    1. Old_kapitan
      Old_kapitan 28 June 2013 14: 05 New
      +2
      Andrey77
      3 BS passed, not to mention short-term exits. I know only one case of drinking at sea - the midshipman from the supply team got drunk. So, I confess, I myself was surprised - what was happening on that ship. And whether it was at all, or the author screwed up for a red word.
      Threat. We are not suicides.
      1. Misantrop
        Misantrop 28 June 2013 15: 05 New
        +2
        In fact, in autonomous conditions, 40 g of brandy or vodka is enough for decent intoxication. For ANY body. If more, then this is at least in the trash for 2 days. 0,5 liters of alcohol would be enough for a decent booze to the entire crew.

        And on the 675 project, at high speeds, the hull is the most noisy, namely the missile launch torch mines
        1. Old_kapitan
          Old_kapitan 28 June 2013 15: 50 New
          +2
          Actually, in conditions of autonomy, 40g of brandy or vodka is quite enough for decent intoxication.
          Absolutely right! Atonome gave us 25 (if not mistaken) grams of dry wine. On 667's, there were 6 people sitting at the table. Moreover, the composition is constant. So we poured one by one every day. So I'll tell you - it inserted decently. Not for long, but sensitive.
          And on the 675 project, at high speeds, the hull is the most noisy, namely the missile launch torch mines
          Kek was told to me by guys from the 675s (they stood in the Polyarny nearby), their boats got the nickname "Roaring Cows" for the characteristic sound emitted by rockets at the start: muuuuuu, muuuuu, muuuu ...
          1. Misantrop
            Misantrop 28 June 2013 20: 37 New
            +3
            Quote: Old_Kapitan
            So we poured one by one every day.

            In vain you did this, wine was not given for drunkenness, but to optimize the metabolism in the body. In our country, only young sailors suffered from this (those who were older already understood what was happening). I took a bottle of cognac with me to the extreme autonomy. Immediately after the release, the doctor got hold of a beaker, where each gram is painted. And in the evening after the shift, we and the turbinist used 20 grams for seagulls ... To normalize the psyche ... lol And if we consider that the two of us are really "masters of the stern" (mine are the reactors, he has turbines), and we were in an openwork mood, then the autonomous system went surprisingly quietly and calmly. The technique, like a clock, worked, not the slightest failure. By the way, 6 hours ago I met him, he also got out to Sevastopol for the anniversary of his graduation (for the first time in 30 years), so they talked to him at the station (while the train was standing). 20 years have not seen each other, both have aged ...
            1. Old_kapitan
              Old_kapitan 29 June 2013 12: 25 New
              0
              In our country, only young sailors suffered from this (those who were older, already understood what was happening)
              So what am I talking about? I further clarified there - do not look at the nickname, I’m a land captain, I served urgent on the submarine. We drained only on short exits, in the autonomous region we did not indulge.
          2. Misantrop
            Misantrop 28 June 2013 20: 42 New
            +1
            Quote: Old_Kapitan
            Their boats received the nickname "Roaring Cows" for the characteristic sound made by rockets at launch: muuuuu, muuuuu, muuuu ...

            There was a really strange project, they needed half an hour on the prelaunch in the surface. There are not too many chances to survive with active opposition. And their cabin was sliding - during the prelaunch, the front of the cabin drove to the side, opening the antenna for monitoring the missile system. If you look at the deckhouse from the side, the connector line is clearly visible
            1. Old_kapitan
              Old_kapitan 29 June 2013 12: 11 New
              +1
              And their cabin was sliding - during the prelaunch, the front of the cabin drove to the side, opening the antenna for monitoring the missile system. If you look at the deckhouse from the side, the connector line is clearly visible
              Not quite so, the front part did not drive off (for lack of space), but turned around on the 180. Here, I found the circuit:
              mm

              And this is how it looks in kind (model):
              ьь

              1. old man54
                old man54 29 June 2013 20: 53 New
                0
                Quote: Old_Kapitan
                Not quite so, the front part did not drive off (for lack of space), but turned around on the 180.

                Here is a photo of the device of the antenna of the escort station for anti-ship missiles but on another project, pr. 651 Juliet (DPL), but the system is almost the same as that on the submarine pr. 659 (which is described in the article).
                1. Old_kapitan
                  Old_kapitan 30 June 2013 09: 14 New
                  +1
                  You are both right and wrong. The "Argument" missile fire control system was installed on both the diesel pr.651 and the atomic pr.675 (which is the article about). But on the atomic project 659 it was not, so there was no accuracy and the project 659 was modernized according to the project 659T - the missile armament was removed and the torpedo armament was increased.
                  By the way, on the 675s there was one more "feature" - the Iva PMU did not retrace into the mine, but fell back, along the hull.
                  1. old man54
                    old man54 30 June 2013 15: 56 New
                    0
                    Quote: Old_Kapitan
                    You are both right and wrong. The "Argument" missile fire control system was installed on both the diesel pr.651 and the atomic pr.675 (which is the article about).

                    yes, you’re right, thanks for correcting it, I somehow didn’t make out the boat project number in the article title. :) But here in the photo in the same article 659 is captured. I have decided on this photo to speak about the 659 project.
                    1. Old_kapitan
                      Old_kapitan 30 June 2013 17: 24 New
                      0
                      But here in the photo in the same article 659 ave.
                      I'm wildly sorry, but again a mistake. In the photo of 675 Ave., just the first-row gas extraction shafts in the shadow of the wheelhouse. Otherwise, it would turn out that the first row begins behind the cabin, and this is not so.
                      1. old man54
                        old man54 30 June 2013 20: 14 New
                        0
                        but I do not see in this photo the 4 of a series of shafts for gas venting at the start of the Kyrgyz Republic, I'm sorry! I see 3 launchers on board, which means only 6 KR on the boat, and at 675 ave. There should be 8 pcs!
                      2. Old_kapitan
                        Old_kapitan 30 June 2013 20: 47 New
                        0
                        So I wrote to you - the first row in the shadow of the wheelhouse. Look where in the photo the first (according to your) row begins - approximately in the middle of the cabin. And look where it actually starts on 659's pattern
                        ss
            2. old man54
              old man54 29 June 2013 20: 55 New
              0
              it's her, but from a different angle
    2. Andrey77
      Andrey77 28 June 2013 15: 18 New
      0
      So I am surprised.
      -
      Threat. We are not suicides.

      After such articles ... in doubt. :)
      1. fokino1980
        fokino1980 28 June 2013 18: 57 New
        +2
        Do not be surprised and do not believe! And we won't tell you the truth! laughing
    3. fokino1980
      fokino1980 28 June 2013 18: 54 New
      0
      Certainly at ..... affairs! wink
  • old man54
    old man54 28 June 2013 14: 43 New
    +1
    I liked the article very much, "+" and great respect for the author !!! I agree with the "old captain" that I would like more such essays! So he, himself, Old_Kapitan (it's strange that the nickname is written in Latin letters, not Cyrillic) would have written his impressions, no matter how like 3 BS, and this is not enough!
    1. Old_kapitan
      Old_kapitan 28 June 2013 16: 07 New
      +6
      Old_Kapitan (it is strange that the nickname is written in Latin, not Cyrillic)
      You see, it came from one of the forums. At first there was no registration there, and I went under whatever nicknames. Then they entered registration, I thought for a long time how to "call me" and did not come up with anything smarter than a military ID. And in Latin because some sites do not accept Cyrillic. Well, I added the Old prefix here because the nickname Kapitan was busy.
      To be clear - I am a land captain, I served in the submarine as an urgent. Nevertheless, I have already published my notes in the magazine "Shipping", people seem to like it. Therefore, I am now converting it into electronic form and going to publish it here. Autonomy, in general, routine, but was in my underwater life and the moment is very interesting. In the photo below - we are in July 81st.
      s
      1. old man54
        old man54 28 June 2013 18: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Old_Kapitan
        And the Latin alphabet because some sites do not accept the Cyrillic alphabet. Well, the Old prefix was added here because the nickname Kapitan was busy.

        Yes, this is not a run over from my side, please do not be offended. But at the same time, it was always incomprehensible to me why normal Russian people (Slavs) write their nicknames in the Latin alphabet, while at the same time laughing and scolding the royal court of the last 2 centuries. they preferred to communicate in any other foreign language, but not in their native language! The same applies to pseudo-hooray-patriots from VO, who constantly haut amers and the West, but write their names in letters! The same pretzels can be traced on many Rodnoverie and true Slavic sites. All the same! I don’t understand the motives of such "Russian-patriots"! Sorry to be straightforward!
        I make it clear - I am a land captain, in the submarine I served urgent. ...
        Autonomy, in general a routine, but it was in my underwater life and a very interesting moment.

        Got it! :) And I thought :)) I think it’s strange, like a person has reached the SPRK cap, but behind all 3 autonomy ??? But he did not begin to torture you, everyone has his own nuances, his own life. Now it's clear.
        One way or another, our whole life is routine, but there is a lot of fun and dignity in it to share this with others. Especially if these are people who are very interested in all of what to write about, which made up most of your life, even 3 of the year.
        Service at the Premier League is my childhood dream, from the 5th grade of the general school. As I watched "Commander of the Happy Pike", and that's it, I got mortally ill! As soon as my relatives found out about my dreams, they literally stood on their hind legs: the wife will be a whore / prostitute; impotent himself; children will not be yours and stuff; you will perish somewhere in the abyss, there will not even be a grave! The situation was aggravated by the fact that my father died on duty, an IBA Air Force pilot. But I scored on them all, and for 4 years I went underground (I didn't say anything to them anymore). They decided that they had convinced me, but ... in the 10th grade I submitted documents to the VVMUPP named after Lenkom. :) I was already older, I was able to fight back. :) I went to Leningrad, but I did not pass the exams very well and, most importantly, when in summer The head of the school, Rear Admiral Tamko (Hero of the Union), arrived at the camp, then I, at the morning formation, at the hoisting of the flag, managed to fight with a colleague-entrant on a vzovod. A few hours later they gave me and him docs ... It didn't work out for me, I was very worried, the dream of my entire childhood ... but after years I understand that I could not serve there - I am very difficult to obey, especially to all sorts of fools, and for them MO is like a hotbed of some kind. :))
  • Old_kapitan
    Old_kapitan 28 June 2013 18: 46 New
    +4
    Yes, this is not a collision with my side, please do not be offended.
    God be with you! I never thought to take it as a hit. The man was just curious. Well, I explained about the Latin alphabet, I will also add that I am a software engineer, and there all this "crap" can only be written in Latin (except for 1c accounting). So for me this is familiar, without far-reaching conclusions.
    It didn’t work out for me, I was very worried, the dream of all my childhood was the same ... but after years I understand that I would not be able to serve there - I am very difficult to obey, especially to all fools, but for them the MO is like a hotbed of some kind. :))
    Yes, I'm not a carrot either, I sent a young leitech at one time. But there was a misunderstanding, later even made friends. And so with fools on the submarine is not very much, they are written off by coast by hook or by crook. Although, as everywhere else happens.
  • Alwizard
    Alwizard 28 June 2013 18: 53 New
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    Quote: old man54
    Yes, this is not a collision with my side, please do not be offended. But at the same time, it was always incomprehensible to me why normal Russian people (Slavs) write their nicknames in the Latin alphabet, while laughing and scolding the tsar’s court for the last two centuries since they preferred to communicate in any other foreign language, but not in their native language! The same applies to pseudo-cheers-patriots with VO who constantly blame the amers and the west, but their name is written in letters!

    You will excuse me, but you, as a Russian, are a guest on the American Internet, not a host, in turn, to blame for such images of those who have an adequate habit of signing in Latin letters. Cyrillic font support for sites is more likely an exception to the rule.
    1. old man54
      old man54 28 June 2013 19: 32 New
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      Quote: Alwizard
      You will excuse me, but you, as a Russian, are a guest on the American Internet, not a host, in turn, to blame for such images of those who have an adequate habit of signing in Latin letters. Cyrillic font support for sites is more likely an exception to the rule.

      What are you saying ??? Sorry of course, but ... I don’t understand !! Of course, they came up with the Internet, but why did you decide that the entire global web is their property, and ?? If you follow your pseudo-logic, it turns out that besides shaving on tanks, no one has the right? only French on planes, right? On mortars only we have the right, Russian, right?
      VO is a Russian site, and therefore do not quite understand this choice of members of the forum! Or do you have doubts about this, that the site is Russian? Of course, you can write here even with Japanese characters, a personal matter, I expressed my misunderstanding and disapproval of this.
      1. dustycat
        dustycat 28 June 2013 23: 25 New
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        But just imagine.
        Many nicknames have been preserved since the beginning of the 1990s when there were no sites perceiving the Cyrillic alphabet at all.
        And now not everyone perceives.
        And patriotism is not in Cyrillic nicknames, but in something else.
        Fundamentally Cyrillic nicknames are just from a series of urapatriotizma.
        Sorry.
        The Internet is Anglo-Saxon. Educated people in a foreign monastery with their charter do not climb.
        1. old man54
          old man54 29 June 2013 12: 51 New
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          Quote: dustycat
          Fundamentally Cyrillic nicknames are just from a series of urapatriotizma.
          Sorry.

          You apparently didn’t read me very carefully, or maybe you didn’t want to understand me. I did not urge everyone to urgently change their nicknames and ban those who have them written in Latin letters. :) Count as you like, but I just considered it possible to express my understanding. But patriotism ... it begins with small, not only with a nickname, but also with it! I thought you understand this ...
          The Internet is Anglo-Saxon. Educated people in a foreign monastery with their charter do not climb.

          and I wouldn’t even think of raising such a question in English sites and forums, there I really am a guest. You know, I was educated enough in childhood to understand such things! Their patrimony is there, sometimes I go there and their Latin does not warp me at all! But VO is an arms review site located in the Russian jurisdiction and primarily covers the problems and news of the Russian arms !!! Or will argue about this ??
          I understand that, through my post, I pointed out to many their flaws, which made me enraged, but I’m innocent of that! And your passes, dear, are very reminiscent of a desire to get out and how to otmazatsya, which certainly does not paint a man!
  • Misantrop
    Misantrop 28 June 2013 21: 08 New
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    Quote: old man54
    I always did not understand why normal Russian people (Slavs) write their nicknames in the Latin alphabet, while laughing and scolding the tsar’s court from the last 2 centuries, because they preferred to communicate in any other foreign language, but not in their native language!
    Three times I tried to register in Russian. Alas, he doesn’t let him (the site or the provider did not specify). He spat and took his old nickname from the time when it was on all sites ...
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 30 June 2013 11: 01 New
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    Interesting articles. Life, so to speak ... You understand that we constantly lived in a state of war. In the sense of no comfort, all the time overcoming difficulties that should not be in peacetime.