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Where does the main threat come from?

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Today, the strikes of a potential enemy from the northern strategic aerospace direction reflect practically nothing


Historically, the northern strategic direction was considered the least dangerous for Russia. Of course, American intercontinental ballistic missiles would have flown across the North Pole in the event of an attack on our country. But their goal would not be the Arctic, but above all the administrative centers and industrial regions of the European part and the Urals. Everything changed after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

South and west are the main directions, traditionally carrying military danger for Russia. With Turkey alone, we fought about ten times, the last - less than a century ago. And from the west, waves of various interventionists continually came to us for many centuries. All this forced to pay particularly close attention to these areas, determined the defense strategy of Russia and the Soviet Union, aimed at repelling threats primarily from the west and south.

Eastern vector of threats was designated in the twentieth century. Industrialized Japan became a tough rival of Russia in the Far East. The Russian-Japanese war at the beginning of the century, the conflicts on Hassan and Khalkhin-Gol in 30-s, the Kwantung Army, which hung over our borders in 1941 – 1945-m, the current territorial claims on Russia, as well as the powerful US military potential Japan, all this clearly indicates the existence of a military danger for Russia and from the east. Let's not forget about the once complicated relations with China, which several times resulted in border clashes.

The destruction of the Soviet Union corrected the list of possible threats to Russia, adding to its northern strategic direction. This was the result of certain new circumstances for our country.

Three components of change

Where does the main threat come from?First of all, the updating of the northern strategic direction is connected with the actual destruction of the industrial potential of our country, and moreover without any efforts on the part of probable opponents. In the first place in the structure of the Russian economy came the fuel and energy complex, that is, the extraction and sale abroad of raw materials - oil and gas.

In geostrategic terms, this meant moving the center of gravity of the Russian economic system from the industrial regions of the European part and the Urals to the northern oil and gas producing regions of Western Siberia. More precisely - in the Khanty-Mansiysk and Yamalo-Nenets autonomous districts.

Another reason is a significant change in the forms and methods of warfare. In past centuries, foreign intervention meant the invasion of huge masses of troops. In the twentieth century - the masses of troops and armored vehicles. The Russian North was reliably protected from these dangers by colossal impassable spaces.

However, the appearance at the end of the 90-s high-precision weapons - guided bombs, cruise missiles, sea and air-based led to the fact that the destruction of any state eliminated the need for a land operation. This was demonstrated for the first time by the NATO war against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (FRY). Not a single NATO soldier entered the territory of Yugoslavia, but in 78 days, the country was able to bring massive air strikes to its knees.

Finally, the third circumstance that influenced the change in the value of the northern strategic direction in the balance of possible threats to Russia was the change in the objects of the attacks. This was most clearly manifested in the course of the same NATO aggression against Yugoslavia. The objectives of the alliance were not the armed forces of the FRY, but above all the industry and transport infrastructure of the country, and often purely civilian objects such as residential neighborhoods, hospitals and kindergartens. That is the life support system of the state.

Objects and features

So, the basis of the economic system of Russia today is the northern oil and gas producing regions. The Yamalo-Nenets and Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Districts provide the lion's share of oil and gas, the proceeds from the sale of which ensure the filling of the budget of the country, including the military.

The largest promising oil fields have been explored on the Arctic shelf of Russia, for which several countries are fighting for access. Huge deposits of gold, diamonds, coal and other minerals are concentrated in the Russian North. All this increases the importance of this region in the context of Russia's defense.

The main targets of strikes of a potential enemy can be thermal power plants (especially the powerful Surgut and Nizhnevartovsk GRES), oil and gas transfer stations, and also trunk pipelines. All these objects are practically not protected from the impact of aerospace attacks. Surgut State District Power Plant is listed by leading American scientists in the 12 list of life-support objects in Russia, the destruction of which will lead to complete paralysis of life in our country.

Undoubtedly, cruise missiles of sea and air basing will be the strike force of a probable enemy. The Tactical Tomahawk SLCM, which is in service with US Navy submarines, has the following characteristics: maximum range - 2500 – 3000 kilometers, firing accuracy - five meters, launch weight of the missile - 1450 kilograms, flight height - 320 kilograms, flight height - 10 –200 meters. The rocket is capable of maneuvering within two hours in the target area for its search and supplementary exploration, and can also be re-targeted.

The carriers of these missiles in the US Navy are multipurpose Los Angeles-class submarines and Ohio-type SSGNs (the maximum load is 154 missiles).

Strategic bombers are also equipped with long-range cruise missiles with similar characteristics. Currently, the US Air Force has about 60 B-52Ns capable of carrying up to 20 air-based cruise missiles (ALCM). Total strategic grouping aviation The United States can use about 1200 ALCMs for a departure.

Tactics of the parties

The likely launching lines of the ALCM are located outside the zone of operation of the Russian Air Defense Fighter Aviation, from 78 to 80, northern latitude, in the archipelago region of Franz Josef Land and Severnaya Zemlya. The most probable lines for launching the SLCM, taking into account the reach of the most important strategic objects of Russia, including fuel and energy, from the northern direction are located within 73 – 75-th degrees of northern latitude. In the case of organizing combat patrols of the US SSGNs in the waters of the Barents and Kara Seas, all positional locations of the Strategic Missile Forces, base stations for SSBNs, as well as almost all key energy supply facilities of Russia, are within the range of SLCMs.

It is highly likely that the United States plans to deploy four strike groups of nuclear submarines (UG APS) equipped with cruise missiles (CD) off the Arctic coast of Russia.

The first group - in the Barents Sea - consists of three Virginia-type submarines (36 KR) and two Los Angeles-type PLA (24 KR), in total 60 KR.

The second, in the Kara Sea, consists of two Virginia-type submarines (24 KR) and one Ohio-type PLA (154 KR), in total 178 CR.

The third - in the western part of the Laptev Sea - consists of two Virginia-type PLA (24 KR) and one Ohio-type PLA (154 KR), in total 178 CR.

The fourth, in the eastern part of the Laptev Sea or in the western part of the East Siberian Sea, consists of two Virginia-type PLA (24 KR) and one Ohio-type PLA (154 KR), total 178 CR.

Thus, from the northern arctic direction it is possible to fire the following targets:

  • the first UG PLA - in the North of the European part of Russia and the Urals - before 60 KR;
  • the second - the fourth UG PLA - on the territory of Central Siberia and the Urals - to 534 KR.


    Ohio-class submarines deployed in waiting areas are deployed in areas of firing positions. Four to six Los Angeles-type submarines ensure the combat stability of the Ohio submarines at deployment lines, and prevent the Russian anti-submarine forces (PLS) from entering the submarines.

    At the same time, false war zones of submarines are being created to divert Russian PLS. It simulates the work of the PLA radio transmitters, their noises with the help of PLA simulators, demonstrative actions of specially selected forces are carried out.

    In the threatened period, the Air Force and Air Defense forces, together with the forces fleet (aviation and ship component), as well as aerospace defense forces must monitor and prevent the entry of SSBNs and aircraft carriers to the launch lines. It is easier to destroy the carrier itself - a boat or an airplane, than a cruise missile launched.

    However, the possibility of interception is complicated by the fact that almost the entire north and north-east of Russia do not have a solid radar field at altitudes below 8000 meters. The existing missile attack warning system (SPRN) of the type “Voronezh” or “Pechora” in a massive strike of SLCM and ALCM will be useless for organizing reciprocal actions, since it is capable of providing information exclusively on the impact of ballistic missiles. The extremely small effective reflecting surface (EOP of the order of 0,05 sq. M), the complex trajectory of flight at extremely low altitudes (10 – 200 m) with the ability to maneuver in the target area make the CU almost invulnerable for C-300 / 400 complexes.

    One of the few air defense systems capable of really fighting with A-52H type ALCM carriers at planned launch lines, as well as with the SLCMs and ALCMs themselves, is a high-speed long-range intercept MiG-31. However, according to the parliamentary hearings held in the State Duma of the Russian Federation in April 2013, only the 122 machine now remains in the Air Force combat squad. At the same time, literally in recent years, almost 130 unique MiG-31 vehicles have been withdrawn from service, and no more than 31 aircraft are supposed to upgrade (version MiG-60BM). And it is all over the country. Thus, one of the most dangerous areas - the north remains almost without air cover.

    It is necessary to urgently upgrade all the remaining MiG-31 and equip them with operating air units in the indicated areas. The productive use of MiG-31 fighters to combat the Kyrgyz Republic is possible only in advance of the predicted rocket-threatening directions with proactive dispersal to operational airfields, which ensures a high probability of destruction of the cruise missile at the turn of launch. The outfit of MiG-31 fighters should be in line with the projected number of personnel deployed from this direction, and not to the current staff.

    The problem requires a systematic approach. The creation of a warning system, providing control of the main rocket-dangerous areas and testing the signal, warning of a massive strike of the SLCM and conducting retaliatory and counter actions, is seen as the first priority measure. Along with this, an effective air defense system should be deployed in the basing areas of the Russian Strategic Nuclear Forces and strategic energy facilities of Russia (object defense) capable of repulsing a massive SLCM strike.

    Meanwhile, almost the only military unit on the territory of the Khanty-Mansiysk and Yamalo-Nenetsky districts - the company of radio engineering troops in Khanty-Mansiysk is physically unable to fully perform the task of covering the airspace of the region. Yes, and this company gradually survived local developers.

    airfield network

    No less dismal was the situation with regard to the basing of air defense fighter aircraft. At present, almost all military airfields are closed in the northern and arctic zones of Russia and the air defense aviation regiments based on them are disbanded.

    The number of closed and active military, as well as some civilian airfields and co-based airfields (can be used as operational air defense aircraft for a period of threat) include the following.

    In the Arkhangelsk region:

  • Kotlas (Savvatiya) - 458 th Fighter Aviation Regiment (IAP), MiG-31, disbanded in the 2010 year;
  • Rogachevo (Novaya Zemlya) - 641 th iap, Su-27, disbanded in 1993 year. In 2013, it is planned to create an air group on the MiG-31BM;
  • Amderma - 72-iap, MiG-31, disbanded in the 1993 year.


    In the Nenets Autonomous District:

    Naryan-Mar is now mainly used by civil aviation (GA).


    In the Murmansk region:

  • Afrikanda - 470-iap, Su-27, disbanded in 2001;
  • Monchegorsk - with 1.12. 2010 air group 7000 of the air base, Su-24МР, MiG-31БМ;
  • Kilp-Järv - 9-iap, Su-27, disbanded in 2009;
  • Deer - operational long-range aviation, Tu-22М3, Tu-95MS;
  • Komi-Vorkuta - operational long-range aviation, used by the GA;
  • Yakutia-Tiksi - operational long-range aviation.


    In the Chukotka Autonomous Region:

  • Anadyr - operational long-range aviation, used by the GA;
  • Cape Schmidt - operational long-range aviation, partially used by the GA.


    The most suitable airports to effectively intercept IA defense on starting borders ALCM in the far zone to the north of the strategic direction during the attack B-52 are airports located near 70-degrees north latitude: military airfields Monchegorsk, Amderma, Rogachevo, Tiksi, Cape Schmidt and civilians Norilsk, Pevek, Khatanga. In this regard, the airfields of Amderma, Rogachevo, Tiksi and Cape Schmidt must be urgently brought into service.

    PLC Northern Fleet

    According to a number of experts, at present Russia does not have PLS capable of controlling the situation and conducting active anti-submarine operations in the areas of the Kara, East Siberian seas and the Laptev seas. The system of stationary hydroacoustic posts is almost destroyed.

    The fleet of naval anti-submarine aviation of the Northern Fleet consists of three long-range anti-submarine aircraft Tu-142M (Kipelovo Airport), ten anti-submarine IL-38 aircraft (Severomorsk-1 airport) and four Tu-142MR, 20 repeaters of naval anti-submarine helicopters Ka -27PL (Severomorsk-1 airport), two helicopters of the radar patrol Ka-31, 16 of transport-combat helicopters Ka-29 and 24 of multi-purpose helicopters Mi-8. However, the real combat readiness of these aircraft and helicopters raises deep doubts.

    Up to three small anti-submarine ships can be in the near sea zone. With the outbreak of hostilities, the Northern Fleet (taking into account the partial commissioning of ships, submarines, airplanes and helicopters requiring repair) will be able to form a grouping of anti-submarine forces of the near-sea zone, including up to two naval search and strike groups, up to five non-nuclear submarines and up to eight anti-submarine aircraft.

    A radical increase in the number of combat-ready ships and aircraft of the Northern Fleet is necessary. First of all, due to the repair and modernization of the ship personnel, bringing it up to 85 – 95 in the percentage of its combat readiness. At the same time, the number of surface ships, primarily the near-sea zone, should be increased by specialized and universal military ships (corvettes, small rocket ships, rocket boats, small anti-submarine ships and minesweepers of various classes) to 50 – 60 units and non-nuclear submarines to 20 –25 units. Not less than twice the need to increase the number of naval aviation and three - anti-submarine.

    Taking into account the growing confrontation over providing access to mineral deposits that are rich in the Arctic region, special attention should be paid to strengthening the security of the northern strategic direction.

    In this regard, when implementing the modernization program of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, it is necessary to give priority to strengthening the group of troops in this area, especially to protect the main oil and gas production centers in the Yamalo-Nenets and Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug. First of all, it is advisable to take measures to restore the anti-submarine defense system, air defense fighter units and their airfield bases as well as the airspace control system. Without this, we risk getting a repetition of the scenarios already played by the “friends” of Russia in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya.
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    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 28 June 2013 06: 52 New
      10
      The main threat, as well as the devastation, is in the heads fool And everything else, you need to work and everything will be fine good
      1. krasin
        krasin 28 June 2013 07: 52 New
        +5
        Now they have come up with a BSU, the concept of a “preemptive strike." "They say we’ll hit us with nothing."
        And this is really ugly thing! soldier
        1. zart_arn
          zart_arn 28 June 2013 08: 49 New
          0
          Any direct major (I emphasize major) aggression from the western and northern directions will destroy, first of all, the concept of the political structure of the entire Western world that has been created for so long, with its comfort and tranquility. Those who are closely acquainted with the Europeans and communicated with them a lot know their mentality and understand that they are absolutely not ready for war and any political or military rubbish that violates their peace and comfort in their country will be instantly eliminated. The creation of a powerful separation of the northern direction in terms of material costs will be comparable with the colonization of Mars. Even in the Second World War this direction was not considered, despite the fact that German boats snooped along the entire coast of the Arctic Ocean.
          Hence the conclusion - we will have enough unjustified costs of our already melting resources, and we’ll even cover the northern direction, so do not hesitate!
          1. Papakiko
            Papakiko 28 June 2013 09: 40 New
            +7
            Quote: zart_arn
            the concept of the political structure of the entire Western world with its comfort and tranquility. Those who are closely acquainted with Europeans and communicated with them a lot know their mentality and understand that they are absolutely not ready for war

            Can you call Vanga or Nostradamus or can you name the Sphinx?
            Or maybe you are entering a “world government” with an observable right to make decisions?
            About white-fluffy peace-loving gayropeytsy and mattresses watched-heard-felt. Not all of us make porridge. hi
            1. dark_65
              dark_65 28 June 2013 13: 22 New
              +6
              Quote: zart_arn
              the concept of the political structure of the entire Western world with its comfort and tranquility. Those who are closely acquainted with Europeans and communicated with them a lot know their mentality and understand that they are absolutely not ready for war

              This comrade has his own hat factory, if anything, throws rockets at them.
          2. Very old
            Very old 28 June 2013 09: 51 New
            +4
            Pavel, to your confidence, and even a guarantee. Why did our polar explorers search the Lomonosov Ridge? Canada, Norway and Yuesniki themselves knowingly laid eyes on the northern shelf. Of course, it’s a little expensive at the current collapse to put a notch. I would like to believe with you together. We were not convinced (although I agree, very expensive) +
            1. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt 28 June 2013 12: 03 New
              +4
              Quote: zart_arn
              Those who are closely acquainted with the Europeans and communicated with them a lot know their mentality and understand that they are absolutely not ready for war and any political or military rubbish that violates their peace and comfort in their country will be instantly eliminated.
              It was the white and fluffy norgs who placed their military command in the north (probably their main task is to monitor the polar bear population and arrange gay parades in the Arctic Circle) And no one has yet to cancel the open access area of ​​the WTO.
              The King of Norway, Harald V, officially opened on November 9 the new ultra-modern Headquarters of the operational command of the Norwegian Armed Forces in Reitan. Norway became the first NATO country to relocate military command to the Arctic.
              “This operations center has no analogues in the world,” said King Harald after the opening ceremony. The center, deepened by 1 km inland, is located in Reitan near Bodø (Northern Norway).
              The center contains the most modern technologies, which allows you to plan and conduct various operations in different parts of the world at the same time. Among other things, here is the largest flat monitor in Norway - with an area of ​​almost 40 square meters. m
              Chief of Staff of the operational command, Lieutenant General Bernt Iver Ferdinand, called the event another milestone in the process of updating the Operational Command. Headquarters in Reitan opened on August 1, 2009. Previously, the operational command was in Stavanger in the south of the country.
              The relocation is in full accordance with the increased attention of the government to the northern regions. The location beyond the Arctic Circle will allow the highest military command of Norway to have first-hand information about the North. A deeper understanding of the interests, activities and trends available here is the key to success in protecting national interests in the region.
              About 100 people will work in the new headquarters. The total staff of the Headquarters of the Operational Command will be about 270 people.
      2. fzr1000
        fzr1000 28 June 2013 22: 21 New
        +3
        The main and main threat at all times was internal. There are many examples when a fortress with a small garrison was stubbornly defending itself for many months from numerous attackers, but everything went to dust because of one traitor. Nothing has changed over the centuries. The external enemy is almost always visible, the internal, on the contrary, occasionally. Although today we are "lucky", the number of examples of betrayal just rolls over.
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 29 June 2013 01: 22 New
          0
          Quote: fzr1000
          the main threat at all times has been internal
          Exactly hi But I don’t feel like moving away from the topic of the article, we’re only analyzing this aspect of state security. And there’s one thing to fix: if one of the adversaries acts according to the rules and in conditions imposed on him by the other side of the conflict. Then all his actions a.) Become predictable b .) there is a great risk of deliberately falling into a trap.)) the resources and means of struggle begin to play against himself.
    2. Severok
      Severok 28 June 2013 06: 53 New
      +1
      It would be great to restore the airfield network in the Arctic and draw air defense and submarine regiments to the database ... The author plus for the analyst, but there is a desire to learn geography. The last two points attributed to the Murmansk region are not in the Murmansk region.
      I wonder if anyone knows how many people at each point of the PV really protect the border? The fleet and aviation are great, but there are almost no one to serve on the borders of the Russian Federation as a result of all the reforms.
      1. Very old
        Very old 28 June 2013 10: 07 New
        0
        Boys serve for 2 years. Constant shortage. You can’t reform this way. Am I a retrograde? And while the progressives have reformatory itching in pop, the borders will be bare
    3. vitek1233
      vitek1233 28 June 2013 07: 05 New
      +1
      if tomorrow war is there nothing for us to protect ourselves with?
    4. Dimy4
      Dimy4 28 June 2013 07: 22 New
      +4
      The main threat to us is from within. Is always. And we always solved all the problems that came.
    5. ole
      ole 28 June 2013 07: 34 New
      +1
      In Kotlas (Savatia) and Monchegorsk everything is closed
    6. Dimy4
      Dimy4 28 June 2013 07: 36 New
      +5
      The author describes passions with Yugoslavia and how we can be bombed. I am more than sure that if it were that simple, it would have been done a long time ago. The humanity of the "partners" is poorly trusted.
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 29 June 2013 03: 14 New
        +1
        Quote: Dimy4
        The author describes passions with Yugoslavia and how we can be bombed. I am more than sure that if it were that simple, it would have been done a long time ago. The humanity of the "partners" is poorly trusted.

        Of course, it is not so simple ... as long as there is a threat of a nuclear response. The author simply showed our vulnerability in all directions. Our strategic submarines graze like the apple of an eye, and they can be walked in our territorial waters with impunity.
    7. Hort
      Hort 28 June 2013 08: 12 New
      +1
      well, the author didn’t say anything new. The industrial facilities of the North and Siberia back in Soviet times were on the list of nuclear strike targets. The same Norilsk, for example.
    8. NC1982
      NC1982 28 June 2013 08: 20 New
      +2
      and here's the news on the topic: http://warfiles.ru/show-33715-minoborony-postroit-100-aerodromov-i-drugih-obekto
      v-pod-novoe-oruzhie.html
      Sounds good, if only not left in words!
    9. Den3082
      Den3082 28 June 2013 09: 25 New
      +1
      At least one author about 100500 cruise missiles has revealed the topic of the pace of launching these missiles. And then the missiles are considered, but the launch frequency from one carrier is not indicated. And then 500 missiles at the same time or within a week is, as they say in Odessa, two big differences)
    10. rekrut
      rekrut 28 June 2013 09: 31 New
      0
      Of course, it is necessary first of all to save the chicken which lays the golden eggs to the rich.
    11. Sobol
      Sobol 28 June 2013 11: 25 New
      +1
      It is impossible in today's world to deliver a sudden and massive blow. Information about intentions to strike appears even at the stage of decision making and the beginning of the transfer of strike means. By the time of the strike, our entire defense will already be in a state of full combat readiness and in the event of a strike the answer will come immediately. Another question is how far this answer will be large-scale and effective. It often hurts lately. They started to scare us with all kinds of horror stories.
    12. pa_nik
      pa_nik 28 June 2013 12: 11 New
      +1
      I read. I'm listening. TV again .. repeat I'm trying to analyze. Everything develops to the fact that Russia will fight again on its territory, on its own land. what and with the allies - problems, i.e. they are not practical. Belarusians and Kazakhs - sincere respect! drinks

      Quote: vitek1233
      if tomorrow war is there nothing for us to protect ourselves with?


      Calm stop There is something !! Kalashnikov Mikhail Timofeevich provided good And if that - THESE do not rush through the border empty-handed winked We will work as a trophy. laughing

      Quote: Dimy4
      it would have been done a long time ago


      and you do not admit that the convenient moment is missed? And now you have to solve the issue of aggression “somehow”?

      Quote: SoboL
      all our defense


      hinting at the S-400 around the Capital !? wink
      1. Sobol
        Sobol 29 June 2013 16: 39 New
        0
        Not only and not so much S-400. I mean all means, including nuclear weapons.
    13. keeper
      keeper 28 June 2013 12: 34 New
      0
      So the military, we are building air defense / missile defense Khanty-Mansiysk. I work here and want to sleep peacefully ..
    14. Tuzik
      Tuzik 28 June 2013 12: 47 New
      +5
      you don’t need to compare Yugoslavia with Russia, such scenarios will not work with nuclear countries, after the first tomahawk attacks, poplars will fly, and the United States and other countries are well aware that if a war begins between nuclear powers, automatics and tanks they will not fight. we need to fear not an open attack, but already run-through revolutions and springs, then NATO could stand on the side of the new democrats.
    15. knn54
      knn54 28 June 2013 13: 27 New
      +4
      In an interview with the Interfax-Religion portal, Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Kirill stated that the MAIN THREAT for Russia is the loss of faith by people, their refusal as a conscious choice - "not by force, as it was in Soviet times, but by voluntary contempt of the Kingdom of Heaven for the fuss and illusory appeal of the kingdom of the earth. "
      "For the sake of comfort and enjoyment, people refuse to follow moral standards. The boundaries of sin and righteousness are gradually blurring. And what has been considered normal since ancient times was considered unworthy of a person: drunkenness, drug addiction, debauchery, prostitution, homosexuality," the patriarch said.
      It is also scary that one will have to fight on two fronts — external and internal: problems of the economy (budget), separatism, numerous social troubles, oligarchs, NOMENCLATURE ... Rigid souls.
    16. VDV 80-82
      VDV 80-82 28 June 2013 14: 49 New
      +4
      I will express my modest opinion ... in recent days they have been talking a lot about the global lightning strike by non-nuclear forces. Well, the Americans hit, and we missed. But as their experts themselves claim, this blow will be able to cover 70% -80% of the nuclear potential. the remaining 20-30 percent is enough to destroy both America and Geyropu and others like them. Further, even if we do not respond to this attack in any way (which is unlikely), the NATO troops will still need a ground operation, and here God has accumulated reserves of conventional weapons in our land! So we’ll fight again! The main thing is not to lose heart or despair, for this is the worst sin !!! And yet, you should never forget that WE ARE RUSSIAN AND GOD WITH US !!! WE ARE ALL EQUAL TO WIN THE Pseudo-Good Empire.
    17. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 28 June 2013 15: 44 New
      +2
      In this sense, I like the words of GDP, roughly: you will kill us ten times well
      and we are twice.
    18. fisherman
      fisherman 28 June 2013 16: 36 New
      0
      clear ears on top

      and yet internal problems so far come first
    19. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 28 June 2013 16: 45 New
      0
      That is why we should not be shy of our nuclear potential and the possibility of a preemptive strike right away, as soon as we feel something is wrong. Why chew snot?
    20. homosum20
      homosum20 28 June 2013 17: 43 New
      0
      Everything is much more complicated than the devastation in the heads. our real defense facilities have always relied on civilian infrastructure. Therefore, we could afford the luxury of having the coast of the Arctic Ocean not populated - there was no threat from there, infrastructure was not needed.
      The main element of infrastructure financing is the needs of industrial enterprises, and the development environment is the population of the region. There is neither one nor the other on the coast. Moreover - given the demographic situation - and we have nowhere to get them. 143 million people cannot be distributed over a given territory to provide universally needed density.
      By the way, Bashkaus, if amers across the pole land an assault on our oil fields, are we going to beat nuclear missiles on them? Maybe it’s easier for ourselves to cut yay .. and cut it off? Without chewing snot? Anyway, then we will rest with hunger - we have nothing to sell except oil and gas, and there will be nothing to buy food for.
      Guys, the problem is serious. Neither Amers nor ours will have supply communications on the coast. People and parts (and the Ameroa army has more) have neither them nor ours. It's complicated. The problem, after all, is not to die taking away the enemy (the amers have a population of 300 million + 600 million the European Union - NATO), but to kill and survive the enemies, preserving what feeds us.
      1. Onotollah
        Onotollah 28 June 2013 18: 40 New
        +1
        Quote: homosum20
        amers across the pole will land troops

        I wildly apologize, first of all, landing on the territory of Russia is not to go to the pancake for the grandmother, but to the Russians for 3,143 men, there could be consequences, and it smells like a serious war. "Well, I think so." (C)
        Could her amers in the current state take out?
        Secondly, oil at the end of the well and oil at the end of the pipe are probably two different things. It (oil) needs to be delivered to consumers. I don’t think that they will be allowed to pump a little oil to strengthen democracy through our transport system. That valiant marines will pull the branch to north coast? And after tankers to export to the United States? Something tells me that they are unlikely to succeed.
        Although I agree 100% that in a strategic perspective the problem is not frail.
    21. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m 28 June 2013 19: 57 New
      0
      http://warfiles.ru/show-33758-bitva-za-arktiku-legkoy-ne-budet.html
    22. plotnikov561956
      plotnikov561956 29 June 2013 04: 48 New
      +1
      The correct article ... but it’s worth adding a question to it ... how America thinks to stop our nuclear forces .. "Satan" with her megaton gifts .. "Poplars" .. "Yars" ... I think it’s worth thinking about it "peacekeepers "