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Vladimir Putin: Russian helicopters surpass foreign analogues

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In the first half of 2013, shipments of domestic armaments and military equipment for export grew by almost 15%. This was announced today by Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting of the commission on military-technical cooperation between Russia and foreign countries.


“As for the first results of the current year, they once again confirm that the external relations of Russia through the MTC continue to strengthen,” Putin said.

According to the head of state, it is necessary to keep up the momentum. This requires a more active military-technical cooperation policy, aimed at the constant increase of the competitiveness of Russian export offers.

The President recalled that the growth in orders for high-tech defense products is extremely important for the Russian economy as a whole, as it is the source of a large number of jobs.

Over the past three years, Russian manufacturers of military equipment have received from the state budget 27 billion rubles in subsidies.

Today, domestic weapons are supplied to 66 countries of the world, and agreements on military-technical cooperation have been concluded with 88 states.
“A separate topic on today's agenda concerns the supply of Russian helicopters. Here we have formed a fairly solid package of orders. The reserve is good: about 9 thousands of Russian machines are already being used today in more than 100 countries of the world, ”Putin said.

According to the head of state, “domestic helicopters outnumber most foreign analogues in technical and combat capabilities, reliability and ease of control, and also benefit from price competition.”

The President stressed that the irreplaceability of domestic aircrafts was also recognized by the representatives of NATO.
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  1. avant-garde
    avant-garde 25 June 2013 09: 59 New
    -9
    As a matter of fact, yes, but in quantity And in quality when will they exceed, and GDP ????
    1. kris
      kris 25 June 2013 11: 09 New
      -14
      Quote: avant-garde
      Vladimir Putin: Russian helicopters surpass foreign analogues

      did he finally understand that?
      but he is not involved in this!
      this is all the SOVIET legacy.
      1. Mizhgan
        Mizhgan 25 June 2013 12: 15 New
        15
        Quote: kris
        did he finally understand that?
        but he is not involved in this!
        this is all the SOVIET legacy.

        And you see that the Soviets still have heirs ??? Russia is rightfully the heir, or do you think that it was necessary to renounce the whole past and start life from scratch ???? Gorbachev and Yeltsin tried - but hell did.
        1. aviator_IAS
          aviator_IAS 25 June 2013 13: 32 New
          -2
          Quote: Mijgan
          And you see that the Soviets still have heirs ??? Russia is rightfully the heir, or do you think that it was necessary to renounce the whole past and start life from scratch ???? Gorbachev and Yeltsin tried - but hell did.


          "At least not pr-o-s-ra" the whole inheritance is a small merit. A worthy heir must to multiply!
          1. Mizhgan
            Mizhgan 25 June 2013 14: 54 New
            0
            Quote: aviator_IAS
            "At least not pr-o-s-ra" the whole inheritance is a small merit. A worthy heir must increase!

            , multiply ... It took only 13 years.
        2. Arthur 775
          Arthur 775 26 June 2013 06: 10 New
          0
          Russia is rightfully the heir! you won’t say more precisely, I completely agree with you. And the fact that the GDP has stirred up and disturbed this baryzhno-Kumov legacy from Humpback and EBN is a fact that happened. There are only articles left with confiscation and normal deadlines!
      2. sashka
        sashka 27 June 2013 15: 01 New
        0
        You "forgot" to shout cheers .. But in general, minus is a plus. So you were noticed, or so (noticed) In the sense that you put on a note .. Why worry so much? Everyone knows that we are squandering the last and we will have to buy our equipment from China. But we have a lot of hats and those who want to throw tomahawks even more. I don’t see any problems .. Ordinary Russia. And the site is German (German). I have so the indicator of countries shows. A strange symbiosis of Patriotism and adultery ..
  2. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 25 June 2013 10: 02 New
    11
    Now organize the "conveyor".
    Launch a couple of factories and new models.
    1. sashka
      sashka 25 June 2013 12: 38 New
      -8
      Quote: Dmitry 2246
      Now organize the "conveyor".
      Launch a couple of factories and new models.

      Only pumping conveyor. The head does not hurt plants. This is not a royal thing .. The team is changing places. And you friends, no matter how you sit down, but you’re not good at musicians .. Maybe they passed the exam in Soviet times? Deceivers for business and determination ..
  3. sasha.28blaga
    sasha.28blaga 25 June 2013 10: 03 New
    15
    Putin appeared to look old, but he didn’t have any experience. I’m not familiar with him, so more and more on TV laughing but it seems to me that it is not in vain that he eats his bread. Not a bad uncle or already a grandfather, but sometimes I don’t understand him.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 25 June 2013 10: 13 New
      11
      Quote: sasha.28blaga
      Putin seemed to age


      And what are those who get younger with age? smile
      1. evgenii67
        evgenii67 25 June 2013 10: 17 New
        +5
        Quote: Vadivak
        Putin looked old

        Quote: Vadivak
        And what are those who get younger with age?

        but he is Putin
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 25 June 2013 10: 47 New
          +8
          Quote: evgenii67
          but he is Putin


          Sorry, realized was wrong
      2. aviator_IAS
        aviator_IAS 25 June 2013 10: 52 New
        0


        Quote: Vadivak
        And what are those who get younger with age? smile



        There! smile
      3. Arthur 775
        Arthur 775 26 June 2013 06: 19 New
        0
        there aren’t those who, from greed over time, don’t crawl into the telly anymore. I'm talking about Taburetkin! He will soon have the last fold on his ass.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 June 2013 11: 07 New
      +5
      Quote: sasha.28blaga
      I’m not familiar with him, so more and more on TV

      By means of the TV you communicate belay well, how does he answer you laughing
    3. avant-garde
      avant-garde 25 June 2013 11: 12 New
      +7
      Quote: sasha.28blaga
      I’m not familiar with him

      I know his guard closely, he came to MAKS-2011, I wanted to take a picture of him, but the blow to the chest of his security service stopped me wassat . In my opinion, what about the photo? The answer was cool. laughing !!!
      1. Manager
        Manager 25 June 2013 16: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: avant-garde
        In my opinion, what about the photo? The answer was cool.


        My friend after trying to take a picture, not like a zoom, the whole SLR stopped working))))) And it is far from accidental. Also after meeting with the security service.
  4. Sashkessss
    Sashkessss 25 June 2013 10: 03 New
    -14
    Glory to Sikorsky!
    1. evgenii67
      evgenii67 25 June 2013 10: 15 New
      +9
      Hello everyone! Well, which helicopters are better, here you can talk endlessly ....
      Quote: Sashkessss
      Glory to Sikorsky!

      he is not Glory, he is Igor Ivanovich Sikorsky hi
      1. avant-garde
        avant-garde 25 June 2013 10: 17 New
        +3
        Quote: evgenii67
        he is not glory

        probably meant glory (glory) to Sikorsky. I beg your pardon for interfering hi
        1. evgenii67
          evgenii67 25 June 2013 10: 23 New
          +5
          Quote: avant-garde
          I beg your pardon for interfering

          Greetings, Alexander! Yes, everything is clear laughing just allowed myself a little pun, pun drinks
          1. avant-garde
            avant-garde 25 June 2013 10: 27 New
            +1
            And hello to you, Eugene, well, thank God. drinks !!!
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 25 June 2013 10: 17 New
      +8
      Quote: Sashkessss
      Glory to Sikorsky!



      Then Yuriev too
      1. Manager
        Manager 25 June 2013 16: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: Vadivak
        Then Yuriev too

        I will be brief! For there is still someone to thank! A helicopter is not only a form, but also what it consists of and without which it would not have flown))
        1) Thomas SAVERY - Steam Engine
        2) Gottlieb Daimler - Internal Combustion Engine.
        3) Nikola Tesla-Electricity (discovered)
        4) Popov-Edison - Radio (Communication)
        5) Yuriev - Model
        NU, etc.)))
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 25 June 2013 20: 42 New
          +4
          Quote: Manager
          5) Yuriev - Model


          The model is yes, but the main thing is that He invented the swashplate,
        2. sashka
          sashka 27 June 2013 15: 17 New
          0
          Well, about electricity, you can argue .. The Egyptians, too, did not shun them .. Take an interest and find out ..
    3. avt
      avt 25 June 2013 10: 42 New
      +5
      Quote: Sashkessss
      Glory to Sikorsky!

      Actually, earlier Cheremukhin rose by 450-500 meters.
    4. aviator_IAS
      aviator_IAS 25 June 2013 11: 05 New
      +5
      Igor Ivanovich Sikorsky, in any case, respect. He was a talented designer. But he has nothing to do with Russian helicopters. And he had something to learn from our M.L. Milya and N.I. Kamova. He himself admitted it.
  5. Vtel
    Vtel 25 June 2013 10: 12 New
    +1
    The President stressed that the irreplaceability of domestic aircrafts was also recognized by the representatives of NATO.

    Why would they pour it on our mill.
    1. avant-garde
      avant-garde 25 June 2013 10: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: Vtel
      Why would they pour it on our mill.

      Well, since they are taking it for us from Afghanistan, it is foolish to deny this fact.
    2. aviator_IAS
      aviator_IAS 25 June 2013 11: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: Vtel
      Why would they pour it on our mill.


      Everything is very simple. Amer immediately rejected the idea of ​​training the "Karzai falcons" on Western technology. Too complicated. And on our only Papuans have not been trained! Yesterday I still sat on a palm tree, and today a helicopter pilot. smile
  6. nekromonger
    nekromonger 25 June 2013 10: 24 New
    0
    MI-8 current (17) and that's it.
    1. tarks
      tarks 25 June 2013 11: 03 New
      +4
      yeah. current. some currents are such currents ....
  7. Humpty
    Humpty 25 June 2013 10: 28 New
    +2
    Our helicopters proved to be wonderful in all corners of the world.
    "They" also have first-class technology. In the photo, a rescue service helicopter of the French gendarmerie.
    Pay attention to the hangar.
    1. tarks
      tarks 25 June 2013 10: 48 New
      +3
      Such a hangar does not pull the Taliban.
      1. sashka
        sashka 25 June 2013 14: 10 New
        +2
        Quote: tarks
        Such a hangar does not pull the Taliban.

        And we ourselves do not need for our technology? Well, yes they are all-weather ..
    2. Mizhgan
      Mizhgan 25 June 2013 12: 52 New
      +3
      Quote: Humpty
      "They" also have first-class technology. In the photo, a rescue service helicopter of the French gendarmerie.
      Pay attention to the hangar.

      So this is hangar helicopters. If you provide them with the operating and storage-parking conditions of domestic equipment, then the vaunted Western equipment will crumble three to four times faster ... And if you pour domestic kerosene, it will not take off at all, even the first time ... wassat
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 25 June 2013 14: 14 New
        +3
        Quote: Mijgan
        And if you fill in domestic kerosene, it won’t take off at all,


        And if you refuel with coal, then generally it will be very smoke belay

        What do you dislike about our kerosene? Is it any different from imported?
  8. tarks
    tarks 25 June 2013 10: 47 New
    +5
    Correctly. The main thing is a powerful infrastructure for repair and maintenance. And frames. Our helicopters went to Afghanistan also because there were quite a lot of people familiar with cars, and they said - what the hell are we for you when these concrete things start with a kick, if that.
    And do not faint from the first popped zrk.
  9. aviator_IAS
    aviator_IAS 25 June 2013 11: 30 New
    +1
    In the 90s, I read an article about how ordinary Americans got into the habit of buying MiG-15 and MiG-17 aircraft in the countries of the former socialist camp. Our technology delighted them. Reliable as a tractor. Pour the fuel, pump the wheels and fly. The same Cessna's were more difficult to maintain.
  10. gregor6549
    gregor6549 25 June 2013 11: 34 New
    +4
    "According to the head of state," domestic helicopters surpass most of their foreign counterparts in technical and combat capabilities, reliability and ease of control and also win in price competition. "....." Since when and from what hangover Putin became an expert in aeronautical engineering capable of giving such assessments. After all, he was never an expert in his area, either KGB. It would be more understandable if the article wrote that such assessments were made by the expert council on armaments and military equipment under the President of Russia and the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Armed Forces and reported these assessments to the chief. After all, there was already "Comrade Stalin, you are a great scientist and I am a simple Soviet prisoner ..." As for the conclusion that Russian helicopters, developed several decades ago, surpass everything that was created in this area much later and using much more modern materials, avionics, weapon systems, etc., such a conclusion can be made only by comparing the combat effectiveness of Russian and all other helicopters of the same class in the same real combat conditions. As far as I know, no one has had the opportunity to make such a comparison, thank God. And if so, are we not present at the next performance of the old song "And the rest is a beautiful marquise, all is well, all is well! ..."
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  12. sashka
    sashka 25 June 2013 12: 27 New
    -6
    After the president "taught" the cranes to fly, you just have to believe .. He knows ...))) That’s why the "Golden Eagles" give advice. True, they will not listen ..
    1. sashka
      sashka 26 June 2013 16: 53 New
      -2
      and WHO MINUS THESE DO IT ON THE “TEAM?” What did I say? Yesaul on the "wire"? Funny
  13. pensioner
    pensioner 25 June 2013 12: 29 New
    +2
    ВLadimir Putin: Russian helicopters outperform foreign counterparts
    And they will always be superior!
  14. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 25 June 2013 12: 53 New
    +2
    GLORY OF RUSSIAN AVIATION !!! Although ours will teach to fly and a fence with a wicket, and not to occupy brains in Russia (unlike a sashka)!
  15. Yves762
    Yves762 25 June 2013 13: 06 New
    +2
    When enemy muzzles ali "potential opponents" repent and recognize, like so ... is YES !!!!! am
    When they praise their own negative
    IMHO ....
  16. PValery53
    PValery53 25 June 2013 13: 07 New
    +2
    Even if ours is not the best, it’s all the same, it’s beneficial to advertise our aircraft at the level of the head of state. But, nevertheless, our military equipment has a greater margin of reliability.
  17. Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 25 June 2013 13: 31 New
    +1
    With equal arms, the army is more disciplined and with a talented commander. From the history of world wars. And the fact that the bayonet is a little longer is garbage. A crowd of peasants with a pitchfork will easily defeat one armed soldier with a musket.
    1. Massik
      Massik 25 June 2013 14: 37 New
      +1
      Ie the crowd of horsemen will defeat the crew in t 55 ??? maybe we shouldn’t follow the example of others and not create our own nuclear weapons, but hope for the talents of commanders and the training of soldiers ???
  18. rennim
    rennim 25 June 2013 16: 00 New
    +1
    Yes ... our engineers have always been among the best in the world, and the most inventive. But with the politicians and leaders of the country we have complete ... Well, with rare exceptions.
    1. gregor6549
      gregor6549 25 June 2013 16: 21 New
      0
      Without exception, alas
  19. AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 25 June 2013 16: 20 New
    0
    Afghanistan has almost a number of Russian aircraft factories, and this factor also played a role in signing the contract for the supply of our helicopters.
  20. Manager
    Manager 25 June 2013 16: 35 New
    0
    Our helicopters are wonderful! But depending on what to compare. In real hostilities, that the spacecraft were not checked for MI (I mean against the forces of a potential adversary of NATO). Of course, I’m not talking about the fact that they must confront the APACHES there and other Indians, for the main goals that ours have that the Indians are the destruction of armored vehicles day and night.
    My opinion is that the armament, in essence, is worthy, both here and there, but in the guidance systems, especially at night, we lose a little. How is this offset? I do not even know.
    I really want to add that at the moment we are comparing about 5 dozen of our helicopters with about a thousand of their "Indians". Therefore, there is no sense in comparing so far.
    1. Uncle Serozha
      Uncle Serozha 26 June 2013 19: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: Manager
      that KA that MI were not checked (I mean against the forces of a potential adversary of NATO). Of course, I’m not talking about the fact that they must confront the Apache there and other Indians

      To date, there have been two cases of Mi-24 fire contact with the Apache. In both cases, the American car was shot down.
      The first round was in Serbia in 1999, when the Serbian Mi-24V with the 9M114M2 Sturm missile was sent to AH-64D's grandmother. The Apache accompanied Black Hawk, which flew to the rescue of the catapulted pilot. Oddly enough, Apache suffered from its radar. The American pilot did not see the Mi-24, which is No.
      "crawled on the belly" along a mountainous terrain. But the radiation of his radar was recorded by SPO-17 mounted on the Mi-24. The pilot "Mil", who did not have a radar, simply went to the American bearing machine (SPO-17 allows) and ignored the "Sturm" from the jump.
      The second battle with Apache was even more interesting and even led to the fact that the United States had a little fight with South Korea. On July 22, 2002, the South Korean AH-64A ran into (supposedly) North Korean airspace and was shot down by the North Korean Mi-35VPM. Although it still fell in South Korea. :)
      Here, the technical advantage was clearly on the side of our car. The Apache was old, of the first spill, and the Mi-24 was modernized and was equipped with the Ataka complex and R-62M anti-fighter missiles with a range of 15 km (this is an export one. Ours are equipped with longer-range R-64Vs). Here is her "Apache" and got it.
      The Koreans tried to blame the United States for the fact that the Apache crashed due to defects in the control system, but when the Americans pulled out characteristic tungsten rods from all corners of the wrecked car — the P-62 striking elements, the Koreans were asked to shut up and learn how to fly.
      Read more here:
      http://skyfireavia.narod.ru/Heli/Mi24av/mi24av.htm
      1. Patriot8482
        Patriot8482 26 June 2013 20: 30 New
        +1
        Very good comment, it was interesting to read.
  21. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 25 June 2013 17: 29 New
    0
    It is strange that about the civilian version did not put up a word!
    So are we going to buy robinsons? This is me just about small aircraft, such a huge segment of the market and somehow quiet.
  22. phantom359
    phantom359 25 June 2013 21: 46 New
    0
    Helicopters are good, but they have a lot of analogues. Yes, and all the achievements of the Soviet, and under Yeltsin, all bright heads lured Americans. What we have is not stored, definitely. Just a question - when will the Ka60 enter the troops?