Container ship with weapons for the Syrian rebels broke in half and sank

Huge container ship “Mol Comfort” with cargo weapons for the Syrian Free Army crashed in the Indian Ocean. He was heading from Singapore to the port of Jeddah, having on board 4500 containers with weapons for the Syrian rebels.

'MOL Comfort sank for reasons that weren't clear yet. He went from Singapore to Jeddah, and then had to proceed to Northern Europe. Containers are drifting at the crash site, and the crash itself will deal a severe blow to the container transport sector and the entire maritime industry.

Assessing the scale of the consequences is difficult, even impossible, not to mention the consequences themselves. This is the first time that a modern ocean liner container ship (built in Japan!) Sank in the ocean, breaking in half like a poorly built and operated dry cargo ship or an aged coaster. Previously, nothing of the kind happened, and no one thought it was possible, even theoretically. It just could not happen, but nevertheless, it happened.

From the translator: possible causes of the disaster and additional photos - on the website http://www.vesselfinder.com/news/1223-UPDATE-MOL-Comfort-Sank

Two very funny comments on the topic:

duggur, 24.06.2013 11: 16: 57
And who served as the "hand of the Lord"?

Absurd 24.06.2013 11: 23: 18
At the private reception in the Kremlin "the hand of the Lord" was awarded the "Hero of Russia"

Comments

[Vanek]

An attack on Interprise?

[krasin]

MOL Comfort sank for unknown reasons.

Helping bandits is sinking - God helps! Ours have nothing to do with it.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: krasin

! ours has nothing to do with it.

Of course nothing to do with The Russian special services have nothing to do with the "Hand of the Lord" operation, it fell apart by itself

[Sgt.]

Lord help the Syrian people continue !!!

there are three versions
1) as in the song "the spy unscrewed the counter nut",
2) torpedo attack,
3) overload "greed ruined the frayer"

[does it]

Quote: Sergeant

there are three versions: 1) as in the song "the spy unscrewed the counter nut", 2) the torpedo attack, 3) the overload "the greed of the frayer ruined"

And there is another 4) scam of the United States, I won’t be surprised if the conteiners are empty. That is, without the content that they are attributed to.

[cartridge]

Container ship with weapons for the Syrian rebels broke in half and sank

There he is dear. Nehun Americans are arming Neptune!

[kosmos44]

Quote: kvirit

And there is another 4) scam of the United States, I won’t be surprised if the conteiners are empty. That is, without the content that they are attributed to.

Well, since it says that the containers are drifting, then comments are redundant.

[Stas]

So then the containers with toilet paper for gangster shobla !!! Now they have nothing to wipe.

[bulvas]

the people who are in gangs do not need toilet paper

[Andrey57]

Containers drift at the crash site - probably bandits in Syria should arm themselves with air, a container with weapons is unlikely to be afloat

[Dinver]

Container ship on 7500 containers, 4500 of them for Syrian bandits.

[redwar6]

Andrey57
I wanted to write the same thing. Cannot containers with weapons drift by themselves, they would sink ...

[alexkross83]

Somali pirates are on their way ... they won’t let him drift for a long time, they need weapons to rob American and European ships

[serioga]

maybe there was a weapon there (it’s heavy) no one can prove it can’t sink to the bottom and empty containers remained floating on the surface, according to other information, the sea business and the fore and aft were drifting and are in the Indian zone, if so the Indians they will hasten to pull them aground with subsequent disposal and privatization and everyone will be silent - there is no ship and no problems

[Bekzat]

Greetings to all, most likely it was like this:
Obama- "Comrade Putin, in order not to lose face, I will tell everyone (the world's pro-Western media) that I will send weapons, and I myself will give the order to drown the ship, the owner of the ship will receive insurance, the extremists will not receive anything, and you will be satisfied."
Putin- "Go for it, Comrade Obama"
And still I think that the specialists worked !!! Article + !!!

[Skiff-2]

Quote: Bekzat

And yet I think that the specialists worked !!!

By some chance, the crew of this ship consisted exclusively of Russian sailors (as it was in the first reports), none of the crew was injured, the Motherland welcomes the heroes!

[755962]

Quote: Skif-2

Homeland welcomes the heroes!

[dropout]

Quote: Bekzat

with weapons for the Syrian rebels. And I put a minus to the article. What the hell are the rebels. And for the fact that the weapon has disappeared, glory be to their God.

[expert2008]

During a special communication session, Vladimir Vladimirovich (the conspiratorial pseudonym "Boss") gave permission to hold the action in the Indian Ocean to Obama (the operational pseudonym "agent coal"). Operation was successfully completed.

[imrek_ua]

That's right, especially since "... At the crash site, containers are drifting ...". If they were loaded, they wouldn't drift, weapons are heavy.

[tolian]

Similarly, with weapons and swim. After all, they are not tight.

[sergeschern]

Sea containers are just airtight - at least carry them in tow.

[shamil]

a torpedo would make a noise

[Ezhaak]

Quote: shamil

a torpedo would make a noise

This was a special torpedo. She's silent, if not dumb. The dolphin is reinforced concrete, pierced the hull of the ship through and through and forced it to break. You'd better ask who wrote the action program for that dolphin, who played the role of "God's Hand"!

[Santa Fe]

WHERE THE INFORMATION, what on board the MOL Comfort WAS A WEAPON ??

[Bekzat]

A reasonable question, Oleg to you +.

[Santa Fe]

Yesterday in Saratov, an FSB truck rammed 37 cars carrying weapons to Syria

http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/625118

[Letun]

Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN

WHERE THE INFORMATION, what on board the MOL Comfort WAS A WEAPON ??

I also wanted to ask. Is there more information than the words of the words of the person who wrote this article? And then the children have already set up versions of concrete dolphins programmed by Russian combat programmers

[Santa Fe]

Quote: Letun

I also wanted to ask. Is there more information than the words of the words of the person who wrote this article?

The news about weapons on board MOL Comfort was distributed by the Syrian pro-government newspaper Sham Times.

I hope that the journalists deign to provide evidence (photographs, invoices, statements by officials or at least links to third-party sources) otherwise it looks like a linden in an information war (c)

More on this already wrote below

[Nikolski1973]

most likely the third version, if the photo is genuine.

[skeptic]

Quote: Sergeant

Lord help the Syrian people continue !!!

there are three versions
1) as in the song "the spy unscrewed the counter nut",
2) torpedo attack,
3) overload "greed ruined the frayer"

Torpedo attack and "spy" disappear. the crew was saved, there were no sensations, but the fact that amerovskie generals also love money - rather. Besides, why would full containers with weapons and ammunition float like foam plastic?

[Cynic]

Quote: Sergeant

3) overload "greed ruined the frayer"

What ruined this is undoubtedly, but rather all the same, the wrong placement.

[region34]

theoretically, it could be broken with the help of others, a deep-sea explosion, with the formation of a funnel, cavity, bubble, etc., etc., under the bottom. and break it like a match, and there will be no trace

[Semen Semyonitch]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: krasin

! ours has nothing to do with it.

Of course nothing to do with The Russian special services have nothing to do with the "Hand of the Lord" operation, it fell apart by itself

War dolphins recalled the golden childhood spent near Sevastopol ... Joke. Although: “In 2000, the press reported that dolphins from the Sevastopol dolphinarium were sold to Iran ...” evokes some vague suspicions

[bulvas]

Quote: Semyon Semyonich

Dolphins from the Sevastopol Dolphinarium were sold to Iran.

and the dolphins from Anapa (Utrish) and their descendants are now in Israel (Eilat), and this is the Indian Ocean.
Apparently the genes took their ...

[Good Ukraine]

Container ship with weapons for the Syrian rebels broke in half and sank

The news, as a result of the non-delivery of CCA weapons, is good ... But the author of the article "-" for incompetence and idle chatter. The container ship did not sink, but only broke into two parts, which today are drifting in the ocean.

http://www.mol.co.jp/en/pr/2013/13041.html - отчет о состоянии происшествия с судном на каждый день.

From myself I can add one thing: It is very difficult to save both parts of the vessel, although it is theoretically possible.

We'll see.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

The Russian special services have nothing to do with the "Hand of the Lord" operation, it fell apart by itself

If no one really sawed the very one, which is the hand of the Lord ... Well, it’s an unprecedented thing for Panamax to fall into two parts, these were the strongest civilian ships that only sailed across the seas. Now apparently departed

[svp67]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: krasin

! ours has nothing to do with it.

Of course nothing to do with The Russian special services have nothing to do with the "Hand of the Lord" operation, it fell apart by itself

"after all, they seem to be there, as if not ..."

[Georgs]

Quote: krasin

Helping bandits is sinking - God helps! Ours have nothing to do with it.

So God - he forever clearly sees the truth.

[Kite]

{Container ship MOL Comfort (formerly APL Russia), IMO 9358761, deadweight 90613 tons, capacity 8100 TEU, built in 2008} "http://www.odin.tc/2013/molcomfortru.htm", the crew on an almost Russian ship is half Russian ( which of our "friends" will entrust them with the transportation of "means of democratization")
- and only here, in this article, they write about the load of weapons, the local author was drawn to yellowness and "fried" rotten ducks ?!

[nnz226]

and where are ours? there is SET-72, UGST or something else from this series ... they help

[w.ebdo.g]

I think that this accident is more beneficial to the United States than to Russia.
Assad is already winning ... there is no need to risk Russia this way to prevent the supply of 4500 containers. Complete nonsense. Putin will not risk this image of the country. After all, this is a civilian vessel with a civilian crew.
Who else benefits from an accident (terrorist attack)? Of course America! First, the money was laundered on the allegedly dispatched 4500 containers of cargo, and secondly, "suddenly" it will be discovered that the ship has been blown up and Russia will be immediately blamed for this ...
After that, you can not only accept the Magnitsky act, but also seize all accounts and property of Russia abroad, and this is at least $ 1,5 trillion at the moment. And by doing so, stay in white. Cool invented!
Russia turns out to be an aggressor, and America is a righteous country fighting for democracy ...
In general, America is not the first to destroy its civilians in order to obtain an effect worldwide (explosion of twin towers).
I think so.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: w.ebdo.g

And who else benefits accident

The Chinese, all the contents will be washed to their shore.

[Kite]

- the great China, washed by all the oceans, everything that floats - everything will sail to them!

[Ezhaak]

Quote: w.ebdo.g

First, the money was laundered on the allegedly dispatched 4500 containers of cargo, and secondly, "suddenly" it will be discovered that the ship has been blown up and Russia will be immediately blamed for this ...

You are absolutely wrong! The Israelis have absolutely nothing to do with it. This is not the hand of Mossad.

[IRBIS]

Quote: Hedgehog

This is not the hand of Mossad.

That's for sure! The hand was clean and the nails well-groomed. Or maybe it was not a hand at all ...

[w.ebdo.g]

what do you smoke? where does the mossad? I didn’t write this word before ...
be careful.

[Cynic]

Quote: Hedgehog

This is not the hand of Mossad.

Why ???
But what about tradition _ Slightly that MOSSAD! In general _ Who is to blame? It is known who ...

[Black Colonel]

in general America is not the first to destroy its civilians to obtain an effect worldwide
... and substitute. Recall at least the South Korean Boeings that were shot down by Soviet interceptors.

[DEfindER]

Looking at this picture, only one thought arises, greed knows no bounds, it’s necessary to overload the ship so, and if we assume that the containers also have weapons, then such a weight is generally surprising as it did not break the ship back in port.

[Mikhail3]

The risk is minimal. What can make such a crash easy to buy in any pharmacy, carry anywhere through any security system, the detection of this in a person absolutely does not threaten, with a medical certificate. The only problem is that it takes from two weeks to a month to hold an action. This is also not a problem, a member of the team has time, it’s almost impossible to notice it, the crew is tiny, the area is huge ...
NO ONE WILL PROVE ANYTHING, EVER! It’s just honey in my heart, when the tsar’s reconnaissance service turned such operations with an unwavering hand ... well done!

[Grishka100watt]

explosion of twin towers

Pearl Harbor, Louisiana ....

[phantom359]

There are many versions, but the essence of this does not change. Let it sink.

[regsSSSR]

Of course it's nice to realize that even the punishing right hand of God is not on the side of the Amers! but with mattresses everything is so simply never happens if something drowns or explodes, then the twin towers or the commandos to destroy the bin palm are surely needed and profitable, and the Japanese cargo ship apparently also drowned for a reason! most likely yes, this is another setup, details of which I think will soon come up somewhere!

[Semen Semyonitch]

w.ebdo.g (1) RU Today, 08:25 ↑
... secondly, "suddenly" it will be discovered that the ship has been blown up and Russia will immediately be blamed for this ...
After this, you can not only accept the Magnitsky act, but also seize all accounts and property of Russia abroad, and this is at least $ 1,5 trillion at the moment ...
You do not confuse Russia with a banana republic. This is tantamount to declaring war. After Kursk, there was no war? And there the facts were stubbornly ...

[Ulysses]

We have nothing to do with it.

[P-15]

Quote: Vanek

An attack on Interprise?

)))) No)) most likely a killer wave - giant solitary waves that arise in the ocean, 20-30 (and sometimes more) meters high, which have behavior uncharacteristic of sea waves. The design of the vessel that met such a wave may not withstand the enormous pressure of the water that has fallen on it (up to 980 kPa, 9,7 atm), and the vessel will sink in a matter of minutes.

[Edward72]

A trifle, but nice.

[nycsson]

Are our really fussing?

[Bokdan1700]

“We are not involved!” Putin said the day before the disaster.

[Lord of the Sith]

http://www.mol.co.jp/en/pr/2013/index.html здесь компания отчитывается о ходе спасательных работ.

[Lord of the Sith]

Fresh video from Syria

Counter-terrorist operation in Al Kabun. Reconnaissance in battle, a bridgehead. (part 1)

[w.ebdo.g]

checked a lot of sources on the Internet.
Conclusion: a well-cooked desuha. No container ship broke, much less with weapons.
Instead of the yellow press, watch the channel "RT in Russian" this channel gives out only verified facts and no disinformation ...
there is no similar news on this channel, but in the yellow channels it’s full ...

[Lord of the Sith]

Quote: w.ebdo.g

checked a lot of sources on the Internet.
Conclusion: a well-cooked desuha. No container ship broke, much less with weapons.

http://www.mol.co.jp/en/pr/2013/index.html здесь компания отчитывается о ходе спасательных работ.

[w.ebdo.g]

By the way, about "weapons for the Syrian rebels" was invented by a user on the "Sleepwalkers" forum. Well, all the rest, in the spirit of true "journalism", replicated
so where are the weapons for the terrorists from?)))

[Phantom Revolution]

Both parts did not seem to sink and drift, a couple of containers were lost.

[disa]

God marks the assault ....

[TRex]

A very strange route for delivering weapons to Syria. Duck, however ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: TRex

. Duck, however ...

No, not a duck, this news a week ago was on many resources.

[Captain Vrungel]

Normal route. On the way to Northern Europe, he dumped cargo in Saudi Arabia. Do not go to Tartus. Break the container ship, no big mind needed. The position of the vessel relative to the wave, the length and height of the wave, the length and speed of the vessel. If the wavelength is equal to the length of the vessel, the chance to break increases. Plus loading, ballasting. This is very strictly watched by boatmasters. A ship cannot sink only on a slip and aground.

[Garrin]

The scale of arms supplies is impressive.

[Chuck-norris]

Putin is to blame for everything!

[ia-ai00]

We will drink for this!

[Averias]

Quote: Chuck-Norris

Putin is to blame for everything!

Yeah, now I see that some kind of mu ... I parked it on the sidewalk, or throws a drunken bottle past the urn (certainly to break), like garbage bags near entrances to the urn into a quiet place (although it’s 15 meters to the trash) - I always ask, is it Putin's fault

[ia-ai00]

And any liberast will answer you: - "Of course Putin is to blame!"

[stroporez]

for this and wish him good health

[Rattenfanger]

'MOL Comfort sank for unknown reasons.

Are the personnel of "unknown reasons" nominated for awards?

[Ruslan67]

Quote: Rattenfanger

Are the personnel of "unknown reasons" nominated for awards?

Order of St. Ebukentiy There is no way to seize peacefully and send humanitarian aid to Texas or Quebec freedom fighters as humanitarian aid So no, drown and ends in water

[MilaPhone]

The Pioneer submarine crew is always happy to use the ultrasonic gun.

[Starover_Z]

"The Mystery of Two Oceans" - one of them is Indian!

[MilaPhone]

Guessed.
Oh, if the USSR did not fall apart, we would definitely have submarines with rocket engines!

[Dovmont]

Dear you are mistaken, this is not a submarine !!! This is the Heavy Space Cruiser of the Long-Range Planetary Defense (TKKDPO) "Stalingrad" of the Military Space Forces of the New Russian Empire.

[petr197108]

The hand of the Lord how to give drink !!!

[axay032]

in my opinion this news bullshit!

[ia-ai00]

Even if the bullshit is news, it's still her +, tk. she lifted the mood!

[zevs379]

Bu ha ha !!!!!!! There are 12 Russians in the carriage. It’s a pity that this is a duck, but they raised the mood in the morning, thanks

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: zevs379

. Too bad it's a duck, n

Why did they get that duck? Dig in the internet.

[avant-garde]

That bastards loaded that weapon for more all wanted more , well, God is not a fraer, he sees everything . Even nature is for Assad !!!

[AKOL]

Well, if not a duck, then God is not a fraer ...))

[Pit]

Judging by the photograph, there are mostly 40-ton containers.
This is at least 140-160 tons.
What nah ... n rebels, there you can not arm a frail army.

[Captain Vrungel]

40 foot containers. 12 meters long. The volume of 66 square meters. meters. No more than 26 tons of cargo.

[Pit]

Quote: Captain Vrungel

No more than 26 tons of cargo.

Not strong in such knowledge, I repent.
But one hell, this is a lot, if to the maximum (although unlikely), then this is 117 tons !!!

[jjj]

For all that, the ship with a displacement of just over 90 thousand tons

[Stas]

No more than 26 tons of cargo.

Sorry, where such information comes from. 40-feet are often thrown much denser (up to 36-38 tons). Ship cranes sometimes go to the limit, and they have a carrying capacity of 35-45 tons. For 8 years of naval experience, I have met this more than once. Especially when there is smuggling in containers, they put 18 tons in documents (for example), and in fact for 30 tons. More than once they were loaded in Brazil, one according to the documents, and the ship sits much lower than paper. Another thing is that empty containers, as a rule, are also enough.
Hence the conclusion: most likely the vessel is loaded incorrectly and, as a consequence, a wave break.

[VkadimirEfimov1942]

Properly broken, well done! The Anglo-Saxons are no longer hiding through the front arming gangsters. Out of such adventurers, a state was created in the New World (the main criterion is the Colt)

[Xnumx kopeek]

"Comfort, they say" ....
-On one drifting container, Bombama was found, in swimming trunks, pale, wet, hungry and frightened

[Corporal]

“On June 17, 2013, a huge container ship“ Mol Comfort ”with a cargo of weapons for the Syrian Free Army crashed in the Indian Ocean, en route from Singapore to the port of Jeddah, carrying 4500 containers of weapons for the Syrian rebels.
'MOL Comfort sank for reasons not yet understood. "

"Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan called US President Barack Obama in Berlin on Wednesday June 19 to inform him of his sudden decision to close the Turkish corridor for the supply of weapons from the US and NATO to Syrian rebels."

I think Putin, on the 16th, informed Erdogan about the location of the container ship fault.

[atalef]

Quote: Efreytor

On June 7, 2013, the huge Mol Comfort container ship carrying a load of weapons for the Syrian Free Army crashed in the Indian Ocean. He was heading from Singapore to the port of Jeddah, carrying 4500 containers with weapons for the Syrian rebels.

Quote: Efreytor

40 foot containers. 12 meters long. The volume of 66 square meters. meters. No more than 26 tons of cargo.

117000 tone weapons. Sorry - I don’t believe. Only transportation of all this requires at least 5000-6000 seven-hitters. I’m not talking about which country can single out 120000 tons of weapons.
I do not believe. duck, maybe there was a certain amount of cargo, but the whole tone of the article implies something else (that the entire cargo was weapons and was intended by the SAS) - I do not believe it.

[Cat]

Quote: atalef

117000 tone weapons. Sorry - I don’t believe. Only transportation of all this requires at least 5000-6000 seven-hitters. I’m not talking about which country can single out 120000 tons of weapons.
I do not believe. duck, maybe there was a certain amount of cargo, but the whole tone of the article implies something else (that the entire cargo was weapons and was intended by the SAS) - I do not believe it.

in fact, a Mol Comfort shed transports goods for 100500 recipients, cases where the entire load is intended for a single addressee is more the exception than the rule. And the fact that "implies the tone of the article" - so do not forget about the level of competence and objectivity of modern media =)) Even if from the entire batch of containers for SAS was intended only one (with footcloths) - from the gentlemen of the journalists will begin to declare the entire load in arms. Just like the purchase of a dozen firecrackers by an employee of the Syrian embassy in Moscow - to inflate until Assad is supplied with the latest air defense complex =)) For the main thing? The main sensation, and louder, but whether it is true or not is the tenth thing.

[Dinver]

Quote: atalef

117000 tone weapons. Sorry - I don’t believe. Only transportation of all this requires at least 5000-6000 seven-hitters. I’m not talking about which country can single out 120000 tons of weapons.
I do not believe. duck, maybe there was a certain amount of cargo, but the whole tone of the article implies something else (that the entire cargo was weapons and was intended by the SAS) - I do not believe it.

Where did you get these numbers we are talking about 4500 containers, why did you get that they are all loaded exclusively with weapons? Two-thirds of this cargo may well be medicines, food, uniforms, communications, tents and more. Where does the figure in 120000tons come from? One container can be filled with tents and weighs 3 tons of other cartridges and weigh 20, as you generally came up with the idea of ​​counting the maximum weight.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Dinver

there may well be medicines, food, uniforms

And there could also be toilet paper, which Americans love to deliver as help. A box with 48 rolls weighs no more than 6 kg. Only. It is such containers that keep afloat, do not sink!

[atalef]

Quote: Dinver

One container can be filled with tents and weighs 3 tons with other cartridges and weigh 20, as you generally came up with the idea of ​​counting the maximum weight.

I agree, but it was about armament and food (as you know, they don’t take them far away. But even if it’s 50 tons, I don’t believe it. It’s a monstrous lot. For what number of militants is it calculated? NATO depots are much closer . From Turkey and the Gulf Countries, to Europe (which is just at hand. Lies.

[Scoun]

Quote: atalef

NATO warehouses are much closer. From Turkey and the Gulf countries, to Europe (which is just at hand. Lies.

and the weapon "pops up" Bulgarian ... and other stuff .. through third handles .. so that if it surfaced somewhere in an unsightly light .. could not directly blame the same State Department.

[atalef]

Quote: Scoun

weapons "pops up" Bulgarian ... and so on ... through third handles .. so that if it surfaced somewhere in an unsightly light .. could not directly blame the same State Department.

Of course, that it is not enough? but for this he does not need to be led in such roundabout ways.

[Scoun]

Quote: atalef

but for this he does not need to be led in such roundabout ways.

I don’t know what this may be connected with .. I can only assume that a number of countries
1. do not want to have such transit through themselves
2. that no third party stops the "caravan" and confiscates the cargo.
Theoretically, for example, the Russian Federation can stop and confiscate such cargo that does not comply with the provisions of the Geneva Convention and the UN Charter. (although I attributed it to Geneva from the bulldozer ... I don’t know whether such a supply is registered or not to non-state entities)

[atalef]

Quote: Scoun

I don’t know what this may be connected with .. I can only assume that a number of countries
1. do not want to have such transit through themselves
2. whatever third party stops the "caravan" and confiscates the cargo

Type on the road from Bulgaria to Turkey and further to Syria.
Understand, it’s all the same to me who supplies the SSA with weapons, all the same from where. But I get along then what to write? A collection of suckers or something around.
They don’t know how to analyze elementarily. No one answered - why the cargo is tens of thousands of tons, who is the recipient (port), how to carry (thousands of seven-hitters), which country could allocate such a number of weapons (note that they receive Soviet-Russian weapons) and why such a strange to no logic route.
But whoever needs it, the special forces have also attributed the hand of God to them, and they will come up with a little more and silent torpedoes.

[Captain Vrungel]

Line container ship. Destination, ports of Northern Europe. In Saudi Arabia would unload part of the cargo. We wondered what was in the containers. Part drowned, part afloat. Cargo and ship are insured. Insurers work with serious clubs with inspectors, emergency commissioners with extensive experience and international authority. They will put everything on the shelves and get to the bottom of the truth. In addition, the vessel has been operating for 5 years and has clearly passed not only an annual survey, but also a class. Sailors know what it means to present a ship to class.

[pensioner]

The huge container ship Mol Comfort, loaded with weapons for the Syrian Free Army, crashed in the Indian Ocean.
The greed of the fraers killed.

[Fox]

how interesting ... and yesterday the mattresses sent weapons by truck. the convoy was destroyed by the bandits themselves. apparently, Amer’s weapons in Syria are not really needed.

[avant-garde]

Quote: Fox

and yesterday the mattresses sent weapons by road. the convoy was destroyed by the bandits themselves. apparently, Amer’s weapons in Syria are not really needed.

Please give a link to this news ?

[1st_user]

Well tyk there by mistake destroyed. The Islamists went wild so much that they ceased to distinguish their own from strangers.

[atalef]

Hamas (flag)

[Scoun]

Quote: atalef

Hamas (flag)

Quote: atalef

Hezbollah

IMHA.
that for others, the flags look like a child’s drawing .... colors, styling .. in general they cause a feeling of irritation.

[rainufa]

this is not a flag this coat of arms Hamas
and their flag is like that.

Atalef do not know your enemy or disrespect for them, al incompetence?

[mogus]

link to the shelling of the column http://telegrafist.org/2013/06/24/67319/

And with this container ship it’s like a duck ...

[atalef]

Quote: mogus

link to the shelling of the convoy https: // telegraph operator.org/2013/06/24/67319/

In addition, the Israeli television channel 9TV reported that it was an American weapon delivered by the Americans under the Hamas flags. If this is true, then this is the second unsuccessful attempt by the United States to supply weapons to the militants.

Not reported (you can believe me). The Hamas flag is so different, and not like Hezbollah (including color and inscriptions - that only a complete ram can make a mistake.
I do not believe.

[atalef]

Hezbollah
In my opinion, even a blind person will touch it

[builder]

Hezbollah fighter poses before installing 122mm NUR

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Fox

and yesterday the mattresses sent weapons by truck. the column was destroyed by the bandits themselves

Could not share.

[Black Colonel]

It works poorly in the desert. And this is unnerving. So the militants are nervous.

[ded10041948]

Nichrome yourself a supply of weapons to the rebels! Is that for everyone in the container? Then you need to sign, to whom, or else they won’t figure it out and capture someone else’s!

[cobalt]

God see everything. All power is in truth BROTHER.

[Humpty]

God marks the assault.

[Corporal]

"The deputies forbade the" draft deviators "to occupy state positions"
www.sdelanounas.ru / blogs / 35482 /

Something like silence about this. On this site, God himself ordered the light.

[avant-garde]

Quote: Efreytor

On this site, God himself ordered the light.

There will be a day and there will be food, but for now we are discussing the good news

[RA77]

http://topwar.ru/29853-duma-zapretila-uklonistam-postupat-na-gossluzhbu.html

[Ivan79]

Good news. He laughed at the comments from the heart.

[Simon]

Yes, it seems that God and the whole earthly element are on the side of Assad, and not on the side of gang formations and cannibals. All Amer’s weapons would have gone down in this way, along with the Americans and their minions.

[aleks71]

such a nonsense that, by the hand of the Lord, from below, they lifted it right in the middle .. Workshops, no words ... and most importantly, without noise and dust ..

[krot]

cool! I'm glad that everything is so successful. unless of course a duck!

[Egen]

Someone did not understand, such a breakthrough of weapons (and money) just without protection and guard walked around the oceans? What was supposedly there, is there infa?

[GEO]

Bullshit! He did not carry any weapons to any rebels. Conventional container ship. It's hard to suspect me of sympathy for Jews and bandits ...

[ia-ai00]

Humpty Duck SU
God marks the assault.

It was precisely this thought that occurred to me as soon as I read the headline!

[goody]

Well, very good news. As in an old Soviet joke: "TASS is authorized to declare, yesterday an American nuclear submarine collided with an iceberg and sank, the crew of the iceberg was nominated for awards."
Good morning forum users ...

[regdan]

Interestingly, was the cargo insured? And who will take responsibility to pay insurance for illegal cargo?

[My address]

Well, right on Hemingway: "Farewell to arms."

[Ezhaak]

Quote: My address

"Bye weapons".

To whom - goodbye, and to someone and "Hello". Somali pirates are probably not asleep!

[Lukich]

... the main thing is that the sailors do not suffer ...

[starhina01]

I'm glad the news, even if there was only one rusty machine that was supplied to the rebels

[Scandinavian]

God marks the assault!

[shamil]

in Syria the rogue thieves sharpen spears

[Xnumx kopeek]

Quote: krasin

MOL Comfort sank for unknown reasons.

Helping bandits is sinking - God helps! Ours have nothing to do with it.

--- now crucian carps in the Indian Ocean will start the "Indian spring" ....

[Tehb]

I doubt that a whole container ship of weapons, but part of the containers is quite real. And all the same, if even one container did not reach the forks, then many thanks to the one who did it. God, our intelligence, or gouging who made a mistake in loading or wiring the ship, etc.

[Dinver]

Foreign sites talk about about 7500 containers, 4500 of which are for militants.

[shamil]

And why are they drifting containers loaded with spears and bows, iron weapons are probably an American provocation

[ded10041948]

So I (after rereading) the same question drew up! Well, a couple - three containers with rags and other "lightweight" can swim for a week until everything is soaked in water, but the rest should drown within XNUMX hours. Or are there wooden weapons? And, probably they sent rubber women to the militants (completely ready for use)! Then this "load" will confuse the honest people for a long time!
I really want to shake the "hand of the Lord". Clean work!

[tomas.09]

Cargo and ship are insured without fail. We need to see who gets the insurance !!!

[darksoul]

Well, they came, sorry for the truth, we don’t know what and how drowned .... but overall I’m happy with the news ... I demand a repeat of the banquet

[Dwarfik]

Kind! Whatever it was, but God helps!

[JIaIIoTb]

God exists! Direct evidence of this news.

[shamil]

And what is the depth at the crash site, will they save junk?

[Xnumx kopeek]

Quote: JIaIIoTb

God exists! Direct evidence of this news.

-
- "God beat, God is, and will be!"

[uav80]

Heroes have already been saved, according to the coast guard of 26 crew members 12 Russians ...)))

[avant-garde]

Quote: uav80

12 Russians ...)))

I do not approvebut on some site I read that it’s not Russian, but Russian-speaking Jews.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: avant-garde

I read on some website that it’s not Russian, but Russian-speaking Jews.

Well, what are you? This is a real duck. On such a ship there are not so many leadership positions! Where did you see a Jewish worker, a Jewish sailor, a Jewish janitor?

[avant-garde]

Quote: Hedgehog

Where did you see a Jewish worker, a Jewish sailor, a Jewish janitor?

Maybe from that it turned out that this was true in truth. Well, purely hypothetically !?

[Ezhaak]

Quote: avant-garde

Well, purely hypothetically !?

Well, perhaps just so!

[Captain Vrungel]

In Israel, and earlier in Odessa.

[os9165]

Tokyo Mitsui OSK Lines, Ltd (MOL; President: Koichi Muto) updates the status of the MOL Comfort container ship from 23:00 p.m. JST (18:00 p.m. Dubai time) June 24, 2013. The vessel was unable to continue sailing under its own power from June 17, since the hull fracture was in 2 parts while it is currently on the shore of the Indian Ocean.

Vessel
the bow and tail portions drift near 15'25 "N 67'53" E and 13'48 "N 64'50" E, respectively, in an east-north-east direction. The weather forecast for the site is still unfavorable.
Containers
Some of the containers were lost, but most of the cargo confirmed that on board the bow and stern.
Rescue Cargo and Hulls
We signed a contract with the company and rescue go to save the cargo and the hulls. One patrol boat and three tugboats arrived at the site on June 24. Only five boats, including another boat, which is expected to arrive on June 26 will prepare for rescue.
Oil leak
We have confirmed that there is no oil film around the vessel.http: //www.mol.co.jp/en/pr/2013/13041.html
Not drowned. Hero set aside.

[smart ass]

Broke say))) Glory to the Russian military swimmers!

[igor36]

Quote: Clever man

Broke say))) Glory to the Russian military swimmers!

They sawed the keel with a jigsaw ...

[Alexxeg73]

It looks like a journalistic "duck". On the Mitsui OSK Lines website, the date of the incident is June 17th. It's been a week already. Then nothing was said about the massive supply of weapons. Moreover, the flight Singapore - Jeddah itself. If there are weapons, then why bring them from Singapore (!!) to Saudi Arabia? And from Saudi Arabia to Syria, one must bypass Iraq and Jordan. There is the southern region of Syria, and the fighting and opposition seem to be in the north. Wouldn't it be logical then to transport it across the Mediterranean? Something doesn't add up here ...

[cobalt]

Saudi Arabia has a large common border with Iraq, and the north of Iraq abuts against Turkey, the Syrian border in the west to the very north. So you can directly import weapons from Iraq to northern Syria.

[123_123]

... The iceberg commander was awarded the Order of the Red Banner)

[Sashkessss]

The Japanese container ship simply could not stand such use and made hara-kiri =)

[Corporal]

With weapons, everything is complicated

www. warandpeace. com / en / news / view / 81245 /

Militants on the border of Syria and Lebanon destroyed trucks that brought them weapons from the Hamas military group.

[123_123]

... Israeli special forces disguised as opposition militants out of habit destroyed a convoy of Hamas trucks) Then they remembered that it was now their own, but it was too late (((

[pa_nik]

Quote: P-15

(up to 980 kPa, 9,7 atm)

theory failed

[Smersh]

The Lord punished the West for its actions against the Syrians...

[igor36]

4500 containers is 100 thousand tons. It’s possible to equip a combined arms army with so many weapons, and not a gang of Mujahideen, I wonder how much this batch costs? Looks like a duck, at least in terms of the number of weapons.

[kind]

Everything is insured for an amount much greater than the cost of these containers. Business however.

[fero]

+1 I don’t believe that all 4500 containers were filled with weapons, it’s too much. Although some of them quite possibly had weapons.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

I wonder why we made him like this?

[Vtel]

God bless! And the rest of the military cargo for the militants also goes down there.

[nod739]

this may be misinformation to relax vigilance, and weapons will be supplied through another channel

and so - the news is good - God's providence))

[Kowalsky]

The crew included 12 Russians and 14 Filipinos, so the version of the supply of weapons specifically to the Syrian rebels looks somewhat strange. Although anything can happen - business is business.

[nod739]

Quote: ded10041948

So I (after rereading) the same question drew up! Well, a couple - three containers with rags and other "lightweight" can swim for a week until everything is soaked in water, but the rest should drown within XNUMX hours. Or are there wooden weapons? And, probably they sent rubber women to the militants (completely ready for use)! Then this "load" will confuse the honest people for a long time!
I really want to shake the "hand of the Lord". Clean work!

In general, imagine a grenade launcher, the barrel is empty, it is packed in a wooden box, it may well float
Container ships are prefabricated cargo, there may be only a couple of dozen containers of weapons there, and it’s not a fact that it was damaged, everything that can be saved

The news is good, no doubt, for everyone who sympathizes with Syria, but you need to keep your ears open, perhaps this is the machinations of spies... the question just arises itself: who and how will give the journalists the information that there were weapons on board? ... so kumuto needed it

It’s alarming that they were transported from Singapore

[Sashkessss]

Next to the destroyed container ship, Reserve Colonel Zadov floated peacefully on an inflatable mattress...

[Black Colonel]

From the anecdotes of the period 70-80 years “TASS is authorized to declare” or “TASS reports.”
[i][[i]b]Yesterday, a Soviet fishing seiner lost its course in the fog and mistakenly entered the Chinese port of Dalian, where it was detained by a patrol cruiser to determine the reasons for the unauthorized entry into the port. During the investigation of these circumstances, the cruiser sank for unknown reasons, the Soviet seiner also sank and surfaced in its home port.[/i][/b][i][/i[/i]]

[fero]

Most likely it broke due to a wandering transverse wave and crew error. A rare phenomenon, but well documented. There is no design error, just bad luck.

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C2%EE%EB%ED%FB-%F3%E1%E8%E9%F6%FB

[serjant4]

Russian submariners worked efficiently and disappeared unnoticed :) good news

[nod739]

Quote: Kowalsky

The crew included 12 Russians and 14 Filipinos, so the version of the supply of weapons specifically to the Syrian rebels looks somewhat strange. Although anything can happen - business is business.

the crew are like slaves... ordinary sailors don’t even know what they’re carrying, only the captain knows. And when someone charters a ship, we are talking only about what is technically suitable; in general, they don’t ask about the crew

[Black Colonel]

From the anecdotes of the period 70-80 years “TASS is authorized to declare” or “TASS reports.”
“Yesterday, a Soviet fishing seiner lost its course in the fog and mistakenly entered the Chinese port of Dalian, where it was detained by a patrol cruiser to determine the reasons for the unauthorized entry into the port. During the investigation of these circumstances, the cruiser sank for unknown reasons, the Soviet seiner also sank and surfaced in your home port."

[pensioner]

Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov

I wonder why we made him like this?

Well, don't look at it! By the power of thought and with the help of ... my mother.

[il grand casino]

The news is certainly encouraging, but! So much unnecessary crap has now been added to the ocean.
P.S. God exists!)))

[asbaev]

Well, if there are 12 Russians in the crew, then it could accidentally break. :)

[sub307]

The fact that there was no third-party intervention, including the “hand of God,” is rather obvious based on the damage visible in the photo. The container carrier broke almost along the midsection, exactly in half, that is. There may be several reasons:
- the ship “managed” to get on waves with an unusual wavelength for the area, i.e. the tops of the waves under the extremities of the bottom (dip) in the midsection area. Quite a lot of ships were broken this way;
- operational factors: metal fatigue, the presence of cracks (not detected in time, or “released on the brakes” with the hope of “maybe” - a liner ship makes money while underway, repairs, especially unscheduled ones - a pure loss of “money.” Or maybe they didn’t “notice” especially, it is interesting to look at the insurance conditions.There are any number of such maneuvers with insurance with any vehicle;
- both of these reasons are “in one bottle”.
The news is good for Assad, no doubt about it. However, there are questions:
- Where does the information come from that there were weapons and “related materials” on the ship in principle? Was it “declared” at the point of departure and told to everyone? Let's say;
- it is somehow doubtful that all the 4500 containers contained weapons and ammunition. I hope everyone understands that when this ship is immersed in the ocean, the containers with the above-mentioned cargo will not begin to swing on the waves on their own? Extract from the “primary source” report (see link): “Containers are drifting at the site of the disaster, and the disaster itself will deal a strong blow to the container shipping sector and the entire maritime industry.”
- "June 20
Press release from MOL
At 1800 Dubai the stern was at 13 00N 61 29E, continuing to drift in an ENE direction. The condition of the bow is unknown due to limited visibility and adverse weather. Most of the containers are located in the aft section. The condition of the bow containers, as well as its general condition, are unknown. MOL has signed a contract with the salvage company, and work to salvage the cargo and hulls has already begun.
Maritime Bulletin: Drift during the period of 13 hours from 0100 to 1400 GMT on June 19 was 20 miles in an easterly direction."
The accident itself happened on June 17, the ends seem to be still drifting, so whether it sank or not is not yet a fact. It’s strange that the rescuers haven’t grabbed him by the nose yet.
Start:"
8100 TEU container ship MOL Comfort sank in the Arabian Sea
17 June
There are reports that the 17 TEU ocean liner container ship MOL Comfort broke in two and sank in the Arabian Sea on June 8100. The crew of 26 people was rescued. The container ship was traveling from the Far East to Northern Europe. MOL Comfort is operating on the North Europe Express 1 Service line. Well well! Container ship built in 2008, Japan. Last known location according to vesseltracker.com Satellite AIS - see picture. According to the latest data received, a crack appeared in the hull in the midship area, and water began to flow into one of the holds. The alarm message was sent around 0700 local time. The crew was rescued by nearby ships. Reports are still mixed, some say the ship is still afloat, others say it has sunk. The first assumption for a crack to occur is to travel in stormy weather conditions."
Somewhere now: "June 24
MOL press release June 24
Press release from MOL
At 1800 Dubai on June 23, the stern was at point 13 38N 064 10E, the bow at point 15 12N 066 53E, continuing to drift in the ENE direction. The weather remains unfavorable. A UAE patrol ship is scheduled to approach the drifting sections of the vessel today, June 24."

[sub307]

By the way:
- "22.06.2013/19/34, Moscow 40:17:2013 Russian sailors from the sunken ship MOL Comfort, rescued in the Arabian Sea, will soon return to their homeland. This is stated in the message of the Department of Information and Press of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation. The crew of the victim on June 11 XNUMX: MOL Comfort shipwreck in the Arabian Sea, consisting of XNUMX Russian citizens and one Ukrainian citizen, was delivered to Sri Lanka."
- Container ship MOL Comfort (formerly APL Russia), IMO 9358761, deadweight 90613 tons, capacity 8100 TEU, built 2008, flag Bahamas, owner Mitsui OSK Lines, Ltd.

[peter-tank]

I'm no expert, but apparently the body cracked from the impact from below.

[Leon779]

This is the first time that a modern ocean liner container ship (built in Japan!)

Japanese bulk carriers don’t just break down...

[Cat]

A dupe with a length of 300+ meters, built not like a warship, but taking into account “cost optimization”, and besides, loaded according to the principle “as much as it fits” - no sabotage or other incomprehensible reasons are needed. It’s enough just to turn across a more or less serious wave =)
And the fact that the boat was built in Japan is an argument “against” rather than “for”. For the price of the vaunted Japanese quality was clearly demonstrated by Fukushima - both the accident itself and the attempts to eliminate its consequences.

[Dinver]

Fukushima is of American quality, as it was built by a company from the USA.

[fero]

...but the commission for accepting the object was still Japanese, and everything was fine with it)

[Cat]

Quote: Dinver

Fukushima is of American quality, as it was built by a company from the USA.

does it matter who built it?
This is not an Egyptian pyramid, which was built once and then we have been leading tourists for 5 thousand years. A nuclear power plant is a complex structure that requires regular maintenance - which should have been carried out by operators, not builders. Alas... I don’t remember all the details, but immediately after the accident there were a lot of reports about the discovery of numerous violations during regulatory activities: some work was done “for show,” others were not done at all, regulatory authorities turned a blind eye to all this, etc. d. and so on. - in short, blatant carelessness and indifference. Which ultimately came out sideways.

[Zubr]

SOON I CAME UPON THE WAVES OF THE KILLER AND ENTERED UP WITH HER NOSE. THE TANKER "CYCLOPS" WAS MISSING THERE AND MORE.
IF THE BOARD WERE FIXED, THE ENTIRE TEAM WOULD ALREADY BE FEEDING THE SHARKS. THE NATURE OF THEIR APPEARANCE IS STILL UNCLEAR. IT’S AMAZING THAT HE STAYED AFLOAT, THE JAPES CAN BUILD...

[Santa Fe]

MOL Comfort crew

11 Russian citizens
14 Filipino citizens
1 citizen of Ukraine

Russian sailors from the sunken ship MOL Comfort, rescued in the Arabian Sea, will soon return to their homeland. This is stated in the message of the Department of Information and Press of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation. The crew of the victim June 17, 2013 crash in the Arabian Sea, the MOL Comfort, consisting of 11 Russian citizens and one Ukrainian citizen, was delivered to Sri Lanka. After going ashore, the crew members underwent a medical examination; everyone was feeling normal. On the recommendation of doctors, they require rest and rehabilitation. The sailors are accommodated in a hotel, and telephone communication with relatives is organized for them. Russian citizens are provided with the necessary assistance from the Russian Embassy in Colombo. The diplomatic mission is in constant contact with the Sri Lankan authorities and the maritime agent. “After completing the necessary formalities on the part of the shipowner and insurance companies, Russian sailors will return to their homeland in the near future,” the statement says.

Let us remind you that the container ship MOL Comfort, registered under the flag of the Bahamas, crashed in the Arabian Sea - the ship broke into two parts. The ship's crew, consisting of 11 Russians, 14 Filipinos and a Ukrainian, managed to evacuate to lifeboats and inflatable life rafts. All sailors were rescued and taken on board the Yantian Express, which was heading to the port of Colombo.


And from whose sick imagination did the information come that MOL Comfort CARRIED WEAPONS???

Container ship "Rena" accident

[Dinver]

Just look at the English-language Internet, it’s simply teeming with hundreds of news stories that he sank with weapons. News does not come from scratch, either someone benefits from disinformation and launched this news, or he was actually carrying weapons.

[Santa Fe]

Quote: Dinver

Just look at the English-language Internet, it’s simply teeming with hundreds of news stories that he sank with weapons.

Interesting source
This is the pro-government Syrian newspaper Sham Times.

I hope that the journalists of the Sham Times newspaper will have evidence (photo materials, documents, links to third-party sources), otherwise it looks like a duck in the information war

[KG_patriot_last]

1) I don’t know what the cargo was, but the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is not among the top ten exporters of Singapore... But it is among the top ten importers, mostly for petrochemicals...

2) after the Saudis, the ship had to go to Europe, which means that not all the cargo went to the Saudis... Someone in Europe also suffered losses.

3) It’s a pity that there are so many containers... They would give me a dozen, I would build a house)))

[slavik_gross]

The main thing is that the crew is alive!!! MOL Comfort sank, Indian Coast Guard confirms. The crew abandoned the ship that broke in two, it was 200 miles off the coast of Yemen, 840 miles from Mumbai. The crew of 26 people were rescued by ships nearby - MV Hanjin Beijing, MV Zim India and MV Yantian Express. The ship sank shortly after the crew abandoned it. There is a storm in the area with waves up to 6 meters high. Crew 26 people – 14 Philippines, 12 Russia. The company that owns the MOL Comfort vessel is Mitsui OSK Lines, Ltd. (MOL; President: Koichi Muto) reports that both parts have not yet sunk and are drifting:

[silver_roman]

This is the first time that a modern ocean liner container ship (built in Japan!) sank in the ocean, breaking in half like a poorly built and operated bulk carrier or an aged coaster. Nothing like this had ever happened before, and no one thought it was possible, even theoretically. This simply could not happen, but nevertheless, it happened.

ha haaaa
and it seems to me that this will not be the last time if someone else decides to send weapons to these creatures by sea. Glory to Russian submariners and saboteurs!!!

[Sashko07]

Quote: fero

+1 I don’t believe that all 4500 containers were filled with weapons, it’s too much. Although some of them quite possibly had weapons.

Well, not all weapons, there was probably a lot of ammunition, especially machine guns.

[Ulysses]

Strange story

[Santa Fe]

Broke and sank?

TOKYO- Mitsui OSK Lines, Ltd. (MOL; President: Koichi Muto) updates the status of the containership MOL Comfort as of 23:00 JST (18:00 Dubai time) on June 22 , 2013. The vessel could not continue sailing under its own power from June 17 because the hull fractured in 2 parts while under way on the Indian Ocean.

1.Vessel

The fore and aft parts are drifting near 14”52N 65'46”E and 13'29”N 63'27”E respectively in an east-northeast direction. The weather at the site is still adverse. The patrol boat which we have arranged is expected to arrive at the ocean site around June 24.

2. Containers (No change from the Update (No.6))

Some of the containers might be lost or damaged during the incident, but the majority of the cargo are confirmed to be aboard the fore and aft part.

3. Rescue of the cargo and hulls

We have contracted with a salvage company and are proceeding to rescue the cargo and hulls. Three tugboats are heading to the site, and two of them are expected to arrive around June 24 while the 3rd one is around June 25.

4. Oil leakage (No change from the Update (No.6))

We confirmed no large volume of oil leakage.

And here, by the way, is the reason for the incident: The weather at the site is still adverse.

[Bashkaus]

In general, there has been almost a week of information. To be honest, I was surprised that no one was posting it on Military Review.

[Santa Fe]

If you are talking about my comment, I pointed out that this is the recent crash of the Rena. Accidents like this are quite common

[Navy7981]

Everything happens for the first time.

[nod739]

Quote: Cat

And the fact that the boat was built in Japan is an argument “against” rather than “for”.

it was a long time ago when I was engaged in maritime transportation, I don’t know how it is now, but I think that nothing has changed much - the Japanese used to hold number 1 in the world in the production of large-tonnage vessels, well, like we do in space transportation,
and the vessel is 5 years old - this is a very new vessel, moreover, time-tested (not in the first six months of operation, and it is not 25 years old). but what is also interesting is that the deadweight of 90 thousand is where the technologies have been worked out thoroughly, and what remains afloat is nothing surprising, titans have not been built for a long time, to a large extent everything is provided for by technology and design.

[Cat]

Quote: nod739

it was a long time ago when I was engaged in maritime transportation, I don’t know how it is now, but I think that nothing has changed much - the Japanese used to hold number 1 in the world in the production of large-tonnage vessels, well, like we do in space transportation,

keyword - "long"
There was a generation of people who worked not out of fear, but out of conscience - that’s why they flew into space, advanced fundamental science, and did a lot of other things. The Soviet military-industrial complex alone is worth something; some developments from 20 years ago are able to successfully compete with the most modern Western models.
And then the generation of “effective managers” came. And not only to Russia - to Japan too, even earlier than ours. In addition, the lives of the Japanese have been greatly spoiled by the South Koreans and the Chinese - whose products, all other things being equal, are much cheaper. So we had to “cut costs,” including through product quality.
Another industry where Japan is considered a recognized leader is the automotive industry - after all, what the hell is going on there too. Manufacturers regularly recall large quantities of sold cars “due to discovered design flaws that affect safety.” Suddenly discovered. What does this mean? About the fact that a raw product was pushed onto the market without checking, without thinking through and without calculating. And it’s unlikely that the designers and engineers are to blame for this... rather, those same “effective” ones, for whom the schedule for updating the model range is even more important than 120% of the plan for the anniversary of the October Revolution for the party organizer of some ZIL or VAZ =))
This is bullshit. And this is not only a Japanese problem; all “developed” countries have a similar situation. And how to deal with this is not known for certain.

[nod739]

Quote: Dinver

News does not come from scratch, either someone benefits from disinformation and launched this news, or he was actually carrying weapons.

the foreign Internet is teeming - that means it’s misleading, in any case there is only one source, but others are teeming,

Quote: KG_patriot_last

2) after the Saudis, the ship had to go to Europe, which means that not all the cargo went to the Saudis... Someone in Europe also suffered losses.

in most such cases, the loss is suffered by the insurance company (if everything declared is correct, but if not, then the owner), and the shipowner - the fact that the ship needs repairs, instead of making a profit

[Genady1976]

this proves that Russia is on the right side, the side of good

[homosum20]

There are such people - combat swimmers.

[uizik]

Got under the "resonance"!

[Rattenfanger]

As an option, drown containers with...well, let there be bricks. Or gift editions of the US Constitution. Doesn't matter. And we received insurance on the basis of the specified cargo. Considering that in terms of “spilling and rolling back” the pi_n_dos will give ours a hundred points head start, this is not a fantastic option at all.

[Barabama]

Where in the original article is it written that weapons were transported there for the rebels?

http://www.odin.tc/newsru/read.asp?articleID=2008

MOL Comfort sank with a crew of 12 Russian citizens
Monday, June 17, 2013 -


MOL Comfort (formerly the name of the Russian nuclear submarine) sank, the Indian Coast Guard confirms. The crew abandoned the ship that broke in two, it was 200 miles off the coast of Yemen, 840 miles from Mumbai. The crew of 26 people were rescued by ships nearby - MV Hanjin Beijing, MV Zim India and MV Yantian Express. The ship sank shortly after the crew abandoned it. There is a storm in the area with waves up to 6 meters high. Crew 26 people – 14 Philippines, 12 Russia.

The sea in the area where the container ship sank is strewn with drifting containers. According to preliminary data, there were 4500 containers on board.

8100 TEU container ship MOL Comfort sank in the Arabian Sea

There are reports that the 17 TEU ocean liner container ship MOL Comfort broke in two and sank in the Arabian Sea on June 8100. The crew of 26 people was rescued. The container ship was traveling from the Far East to Northern Europe. MOL Comfort is operating on the North Europe Express 1 Service line. Well well! Container ship built in 2008, Japan. Last known location according to vesseltracker.com Satellite AIS - see picture. According to the latest data received, a crack appeared in the hull in the midship area, and water began to flow into one of the holds. The alarm message was sent around 0700 local time. The crew was rescued by nearby ships. Reports are still mixed, some say the ship is still afloat, others say it has sunk. The first assumption for a crack to occur is to travel in stormy weather conditions.

Container ship MOL Comfort (ex APL Russia), IMO 9358761, dwt 90613, capacity 8100 TEU, built 2008, flag Bahamas, manager MOL SHIP MANAGEMENT SINGAPORE PTE LTD.

[Santa Fe]

Quote: Barabama

Where in the original article is it written that weapons were transported there for the rebels?

The news about weapons on board MOL Comfort was spread by the Syrian newspaper Sham Times.

I hope the journalists will deign to provide evidence (photographs, invoices, statements from officials, or at least links to third-party sources), otherwise this looks like a duck in the information war.

Quote: bomg.77

Wow, underwater construction battalion, well done!

This is what!

Yesterday in Saratov, a Tatra loaded with rubble rammed 37 cars that were carrying weapons to Syrian militants
Everything for the front! Everything for Victory!

http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/625118

[bomg.77]

Wow, underwater construction battalion, well done!

[Kyrgyz]

well it happens......
load it with barrels and it will break...

[nod739]

Quote: Cat

the key word is "for a long time"

Well, not so long ago, specifically the end of the 90s, even the beginning of the 2000s it was like this:
Japan - 1st place
Korea - second
China third
all others combined have a share of less than 15%

most likely China is now in first place - I wouldn’t be surprised, back in the early 2000s the trend was to overtake Korea, also with government support, and Korea, in turn, was catching up with Japan, but Japan was losing ground slightly due to expensive labor

but the point is that ships under 10 years old are young, and after 30 years old (and insurance for cargo is higher and in a number of shipments is already prohibited), and the Japanese at one time had the best, most reliable fleet. I don’t think that China has surpassed them in quality.
I could be wrong, but it’s not significant in the 80s-90s, Japan accounted for something slightly less than 2/3 of the world production of all large-capacity ships...

PS, the maritime shipping guys told me that insurers raised rates on a number of goods if the ship was Chinese...
first link that came up: http://freepapers.ru/15/mirovaya-sudostroitelnaya-promyshlennost/20875.165652.li
st1.html (not the best, because it’s an abstract, but briefly)

http://www.morvesti.ru/analytics/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=15334 - более обзорно и наше время к томуже

[Cat]

Now, according to rumors, 1st place is China, 2nd is Korea, and only 3rd is Japan. And what lengths are shipbuilding companies willing to go to in order to maintain their position in the market - who knows... What was it like with the classic, about 300% profit? =)))
Plus another nuance: no matter what cargo ship you take, it is registered in one offshore, the flag is carried from another, the crew is from the pine forest... That is, shipowners are trying to cut costs by hook or by crook, and how far they are ready to go... see above =)))

And yet, this article caught my eye:

The Chairman of the IACS Council, also the maritime director of Lloyd's Register, Tom Boardley (responsible for determining the maritime strategy and overseeing the development of the register's business around the world), speaks out to the public in a streamlined manner:

– The cause will be due to either design, construction or operational factors, or a combination of these options. At this time, it appears that the collapsed hull can be safely rebuilt. It is important that both sections are preserved; this will help you quickly understand the reasons for the failure.

However, in Tom Bordley's list - coincidentally or not - non-operational factors come first.

[nod739]

Quote: Dinver
Fukushima is of American quality, as it was built by a company from the USA.

... Alas... I don’t remember all the details, but immediately after the accident there were a lot of reports about the discovery of numerous violations during regulatory activities

what does quality have to do with it?? In general, the earthquake there was not bad, in case you forgot

[Santa Fe]

Quote: nod739

In general, the earthquake there was not bad, in case you forgot

And in the case of MOL Comfort - quite a storm

[Cat]

Quote: nod739

what does quality have to do with it?? In general, the earthquake there was not bad, in case you forgot

probably the first earthquake in the entire history of Japan. And no one there had heard of a tsunami, what kind of bullshit is it - until it hit you in the head =)
But seriously, the point is this: after 40 years of operation, the Japanese, in theory, should have learned power plants by heart, right down to the last rivet on the drainpipe. And in the event of any emergency situation, know how to neutralize this situation in a short time and with minimal consequences. Moreover, the shutdown of external power supply (which is where it all started) is an event that can easily happen without any shaking, roughly speaking - a “normal emergency”. Accordingly, all body movements required in this case must be performed by station personnel at the level of instincts. Of course, if this personnel corresponds to the positions held. Well, if operators and technicians approach their responsibilities according to the principle “it works, and that’s fine,” and those who must supervise operators and technicians are more worried not about control, but about drawing up a beautiful report on the state of affairs in the entrusted area... then, at the slightest niggle, and a “big bada boom” occurs.
Well, if the problem was not in the personnel, but in the design of the station, then again the question is: guys, how did it happen - that you crawled around the reactors for 40 years and did not notice such a serious problem? That is, we return to the same “it works, okay.”

In general, all tales are about the vaunted Japanese work discipline, punctuality, responsibility, etc. - nothing more than fairy tales. In fact, they are just as stupid as everyone else =)))

[Cynic]

Quote: Cat

roughly speaking - a “regular emergency”.

Roughly speaking, there was an abnormal development of a regular emergency.

Quote: Cat

and if the problem was not in the personnel, but in the design of the station,

The cheapest project was chosen.

Quote: Cat

In general, all tales are about the vaunted Japanese work discipline, punctuality, responsibility, etc. - not more than

No, within the instructions everything is at the highest level, and actions in emergency situations are not carried out _ There are no instructions! In the final document they wrote about themselves that way!
If I'm not mistaken, they didn't even leave the emergency facility! We were waiting for a command from above, this was not in the instructions! We waited and grabbed the dose!
So, within the instructions _ Ideal performers.

[Fedych]

Isaac the Syrian alone is worth something! - in this comrade of suppressing the remnant of light in this world of darkness. Demons are demons, let’s leave them alone. Syria is not just Muslim, but also the source and homeland of the Orthodox Faith and Belief. By the prayers of their saints she lives and holds on, and may. and will be reborn. This is, indeed, both an outpost and a barrier for Orthodox Russia, albeit a mystical one today. And this applies to any Christian, whether in the USA, Europe or others. In God and about the Lord! - united, outside the nation, state and other perishable.........

[shamil]

misinformation, all this is no disaster. Well, they don’t write or show it anywhere else

[shamil]

misinformation, all this is no disaster. Well, they don’t write or show it anywhere else

[region34]

I haven’t read everything, perhaps someone has already suggested reasons why it could break, this is a special directed explosion or the creation of a cavity, cavity, bubble under the bottom, it will break only once, so it could well be a man-made reason...

[jamalena]

-God is for you, Syria! We are for you, Assad!

[Lexagun]

We are waiting for the third case.
1. trucks
2.. bulk carrier (grandiose)
3 ....

It’s flattering, of course, to think that ours were so harsh, but it’s unlikely. Wherever it went with trucks as a response to Israeli strikes, it was approximately adequate. But a cargo ship? this would mean opening a hunt for our ships and cargo. After all, if there is “confidence,” one rarely bothers with “evidence,” or the “evidence” looks like the notorious Powell test tube.

But the suppliers themselves, if they had no other way to stop supplies (for the sake of saving face), could resort to such tricks (the cargo ship is insured). They have complete information (route, security time, etc.), and somehow they were urgently and strongly motivated to cancel the delivery. Since many of the performers, including in Syria, are not subordinates of direct influence, but rather “vassals of my vassal,” they cannot be ordered to return everything back. Should we stop?

What has changed from the time Barakabama announced the start of arms supplies to the Syrian opposition until the sinking of the ship? The summit has passed. The one where everyone turned out to have sour faces. Considering the reaction time: formulation of the order (by Obama), development of the plan, approval, preparation of the operation and its implementation, time is simply running out. I think American weapons will never reach the Syrians. At least from the Americans.
Somehow it coincided strangely: the abdication in Qatar, the Change of the Saudis, events in Turkey (Erdogan’s reproaches to “friends and allies”), “revival” in Egypt (some statements by the military).

So all sorts of different things come to mind about how the GDP was able to threaten the Anglo-Saxons, so that they made a “stand” so abruptly.
Snowden? A person who has discovered the open secret no longer has practical value, if only for journalists. Considering his age and not the highest rank, he can’t count on super-duper secrets that he still has. The problem is not the presence of special tracking programs, but the problem is that the operating system itself is such a program. For example, “Winda” is the brainchild not of Gates, but of the Pentagon (in his distant youth, his parents, being officials of this very Pentagon, came to the rescue in time and IBM gave PC-DOS to unknown major boys, and then the state helped a lot to promote this project, IOs ( rotten apple) - NSA, etc. Therefore, Snowden did not reveal any secret for competent people.

Something other?
For example, a threat to their financial system? so this is no longer a threat, it has already been fulfilled, the combination of the concluded 270 billion dollar contract with the Chinese, and this contract, even if denominated in dollars, will most likely be executed in rubles and yuan and the abandonment of the “currency board” policy ( GDP statement at the St. Petersburg forum - the capsule was unsealed). The “little jar” is doubly painful because it contains not just dollars, it contains American papers. How much was there in the jar? So Putin promised to spend about half, if I may say so, “immediately.” Total: 270 were withdrawn from dollar circulation, plus approximately the same amount was released onto the market, that is, obligations were presented for payment (this will take up to a year). Combined with some other steps, this is a direct and unequivocal blow to the dollar (not the euro yet). What does the GDP statement have to do with it first, and then the trucks, the bulk carrier......
I think that no one will cancel the announced decisions, but the Americans are trying to avoid any further actions. Resignations of Medvedev and the government? So this, too, most likely the issue has already been resolved, for the fall, it’s not in vain that the castling was carried out.
But maybe some other reasons could have caused such a sharp, convulsive reaction from cargo owners?
It would be interesting to hear other thoughts.

[I think so]

"It's hard to look for a black cat in a dark room, especially when it's NOT there."
Everything you “analyzed” here is simply frivolous.
Isn’t it easier to explain everything like this:
1. Container ship - it was carrying ordinary cargo from China to Geyropa, but it was broken by the waves (fortunately it was made in Japan).
2. A certain stupid (Russian) journalist thought, “...what if he was carrying cartridges?” And away we go...
3. In warring Syria, some gang burned the trucks of other bandits. And the journalist (the same one) thought, “what if they were carrying AMERICAN cartridges?” And away we go...
4. The Anglo-Saxons (Obama and other husks) read in the newspaper... not on the Internet that a container ship sank and thought "... what if it was carrying cartridges?" No, you need to tell your generals to load the cartridges onto a special ship.
5. The American banker, having learned that Putin wants to spend as much as (!) 40 billion for construction in HIS country (for once, at least how much money should not be wasted, but used for the BENEFITS of people) openly LOLED at the MICROSCOPE of the amount...

[imrek_ua]

Yes, the korap was loaded with peas, peas. For the production of chemical and biological weapons. Some water got on the peas, so... :)

[Lexagun]

Alternatively, a scam, there were no weapons there, the insurance was high (considering the nature of the cargo) and the obligations were “fulfilled,” so they sent the weapon? and there is no threat of conflict escalation yet, well, it hasn’t arrived.