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Tank biathlon. About our national sport

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Tank biathlon. About our national sportWe wrote more than once that Tanks remain one of the most effective means on the battlefield and why they will not lose this quality in the foreseeable future. However, in addition to the outstanding qualities of domestic armored vehicles, the combat effectiveness of the tank crews and their experience greatly affect the combat effectiveness of the tank units. Recently, a new element has been introduced into the combat training of tankers, which will seriously improve the training of crews.


For the first time tank competitions are held for the first time at the two ranges of the Southern Military District (in Chechnya and the Stavropol Territory) - tank biathlon. Also, these competitions will be held in the Eastern Military District (at five test sites in the Republic of Buryatia, Primorsky, Trans-Baikal Territories, Sakhalin and Jewish Autonomous Regions). From 1 to 5 in August, final competitions will be held at the Alabino training ground, in which tank crews from friendly countries: Kazakhstan, Belarus and, possibly, Armenia will take part.

Anticipating the irony that the appearance of such a strange sport can cause, I would like to talk a little about tank biathlon, not forgetting to say how serious and even important these competitions are.

First about the competitions themselves. The route length 6 – 10 km passes three times. On the first lap, the crews are shooting from a tank cannon at targets located at a distance of 1800, 1700, 1500 m. On the second lap, firing is at targets that simulate the calculation of an anti-tank grenade launcher and infantry group. These targets (at a distance of 600 – 700 m) must be hit from a machine gun paired with a gun. On the third lap, the crew must hit the anti-tank gun and the calculation of the ATGM with the NSVT anti-aircraft machine gun at a distance of 1200 m. As in conventional biathlon, misses are fraught with a penalty circle, the length of 500 meters. And at the final stage, driver mechanics need to overcome a difficult-to-reach section that is replete with various obstacles. Moreover, each flaw in the passage (hurtled pillar or obstacle avoidance) is also estimated by the 10-second penalty, which is added to the total time.

Now we can say about the value of such a competition for combat training. Tank crews are not at all easy to prepare for the performance of combat missions in conditions close to the conditions of modern combat. At the exits to the landfills are practiced shooting. At field exits and exercises, crews get driving experience, passing routes and overcoming obstacles. But all these types of combat training have two minuses: they are divided into exercises for movement and for hitting targets, and they do not put the crews in terms of a hard time limit. Whereas in real combat movement, search for targets, guidance weapons and defeat targets occur simultaneously. In this case, the crew must act quickly, and here's why.

In modern combat, a tank is quite vulnerable, since anti-tank weapons on the battlefield are a mass weapon. The infantry has anti-tank grenade launchers and guided missiles. Even light combat vehicles are equipped with anti-tank missile systems. But there’s still artillery, aviation and enemy tanks, for which anti-tank warfare is a priority. To perform a combat mission under these conditions, the tank needs at least not to be destroyed or incapacitated before it can use its considerable firepower. And as a maximum - to remain intact even after completing a combat mission. In other words, the tank must hit the enemy, not allowing themselves to hit. And for this, the crew has many opportunities.

Firstly, the survival rate of a tank on the battlefield depends on its mobility. It is worth saying that even with the current level of development of remote weapons (such as artillery and guided aviation weapons), it takes some time to detect a target (tank) before using it on it. While the tank - one of the most mobile types of military equipment, and even on difficult terrain. And active maneuvering on the terrain of tank subunits seriously complicates targeting those weapons of destruction that are not means of direct visibility (artillery and aircraft).

Secondly, in dueling situations with means of direct visibility (ATGWs, grenade launchers, and guns firing direct fire) the tank also has many chances to emerge victorious. And here, oddly enough, the advantage of the tank is not only that it is one of the most protected types of military equipment (except for armor protection, the tank has various types of active and passive protection). Fight on the line of sight - this is the task for which the tank was intended. And no other weapon of the so-called "direct shot" can match the firepower of a tank gun. It is capable of hitting any tank-dangerous target: infantry in open areas and shelters, firing points in buildings, artillery pieces and any armored vehicles, including enemy tanks. If the crew of the tank found the target in direct line of sight, a memorial service can be ordered for it. Thus, the effectiveness of the tank in direct combat depends on how quickly the crew will shoot. At the same time to detect the target modern tank has the perfect means. But the guidance of weapons, including ballistic calculation, is almost completely automated. On domestic tanks, loading is also automated, which reduces the time before re-firing and increases the already serious firepower of domestic tanks.

Thus, the effectiveness of tanks in combat is very much dependent on the speed of the crew. A standard combat cycle (movement — target search — gun pointing — shot — motion) should take as little time as possible. This is true for a battlefield of any nature: and for open terrain, where the tank must actively move while simultaneously conducting reconnaissance of targets; and for combat in difficult terrain, including urban development, where the tank must spend the minimum time to exit from a protected position to the firing position, and to retreat back to a protected position.

Therefore, it is crucial that the crew not only have a good driving skill and know how to shoot well. It is important that his actions are coordinated in a single combat cycle and fast, so that the operations of all crew members are worked out and are aimed at the speed of hitting the target. And tank biathlon is just that kind of combat training that fulfills these crew skills. And sports competition here will be only a plus. And the fact that tank biathlon will now become one of the types of training will directly affect the quality of combat training.
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  1. Jrvin
    Jrvin 25 June 2013 07: 39 New
    +6
    Well, God forbid it will work =)
    1. cartridge
      cartridge 25 June 2013 09: 17 New
      23
      Everything new is well forgotten old. In the 80s, such competitions on the T-72 took place in the Central Asian military district, on the basis of the training fighter in Otar. The winners received the cup, the remaining pennants and certificates, and the tank company, from where the best crew was, was awarded a color TV.
      And conscripted fighters from among the winners and those who won prizes the next day after returning from the competition to the unit went on vacation for 10 days.
      1. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 25 June 2013 14: 13 New
        12
        Quote: cartridge
        Everything new is well forgotten old.


        Greetings, Ivan.
        Yeah. Something similar was carried out before in tank units at different levels. All this died safely during the EBN period.
        Guys for vacation competed fiercely, as if wound up. This was the main prize, the rest - as necessary, but all winners had extraordinary losses.
        I am glad that they raised this to the all-Russian level.

        We still had a division into summer and winter competitions (inside the unit).
        Winter drift on tanks is finally super ... enter and pass the obstacle "double turn at 90 degrees" or stop the tanks in front of each other at a minimum distance with the towers "32-00" - and all this is practically on ICE.
        You need to see how the recruits' eyes lit up when they looked at the driving of mechanic-masters ... better than any political information.
        Dancing on the tanks is also a good thing, but only when they are not for open show.

        One depressing - 1 year service life. Well, they will teach in half a year, well, they will understand in half a year, well ... and quit. The meaning of such a fighter to teach ...? But this is not the topic.

        And so, I repeat once again - the news is very good. In the firing version, this is similar to performing the 1 UKS, if I'm not mistaken, and the training of the mechanics will turn out to be excellent. Plus.
        I apologize for getting into the beginning of the discussion; I wanted to supplement Ivan's good memories.
        hi

        And to cheer up:
  2. Hikar
    Hikar 25 June 2013 07: 48 New
    +1
    I'm not special in tanks, but it seems to me that the distance of the shots is small ... despite the fact that the effective range for firing at target targets with artillery shells in the T-72B is about 2000-2500m. and "Abrams" effective range of about 2500-3000m.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 25 June 2013 11: 26 New
      +2
      To do this, we need a number of conditions to guarantee hit the target from such a distance, including considerable training of the crew! But in order to learn how to use all the capabilities of technology, these competitions (training and preparation for them) are held. Again, shooting on the move against a moving target and shooting from a meta on a fixed target are two big differences, and you have to train this matter to the level of instincts.
    2. Canep
      Canep 25 June 2013 14: 40 New
      +2
      T-72Б There are active rockets with laser beam guidance with an effective fire range of over 4 km. Limits the range of the horizon line. This tank was the first in the world to use such shells.
    3. Massik
      Massik 25 June 2013 16: 06 New
      +4
      Russia does not consist of only the fields of Volgograd, beyond Nizhny Novgorod, find a distance of at least 1 km suitable for tank battle
  3. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 25 June 2013 08: 18 New
    20
    Can we put it in Sochi? Separately, the women's and men's teams, no Fourcade can stand it. smile
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 25 June 2013 11: 27 New
      +4
      Especially if it will be a target! wink
    2. Hariva
      Hariva 25 June 2013 21: 43 New
      +3
      Oh, dead number. They will definitely find dope .... In the fuel :)
    3. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 26 June 2013 01: 55 New
      +3
      First, train in all tank units, well, and then the best will go to Europe, show the “class” at a minimum to MelkoBritania.
  4. UPStoyan
    UPStoyan 25 June 2013 08: 26 New
    +9
    The Olympic Committee wants to remove the fight, you can propose a tank biathlon instead.
  5. Dima190579
    Dima190579 25 June 2013 08: 38 New
    +6
    I want to look at international competitions in this sport.
  6. Dima190579
    Dima190579 25 June 2013 08: 40 New
    18
    That's something like this. I see these competitions.
  7. basil200
    basil200 25 June 2013 08: 41 New
    +3
    And why not ours to buy a pair of tanks Merkava, Abrams, etc. and hold competitions (fights) and check whose tank is better.
    1. Basileus
      Basileus 25 June 2013 08: 47 New
      +4
      What will they sell?)
      1. Arthur 775
        Arthur 775 25 June 2013 15: 41 New
        +2
        take away in hot spots. on golan at heights.
    2. fero
      fero 25 June 2013 09: 43 New
      +1
      Dreaming is not harmful)
      1. urich
        urich 25 June 2013 14: 34 New
        +1
        sell something will sell! In the morning - money, in the evening chairs! 7 million bucks per tank. And then shoot him in the trash! This is a cool economy!
    3. Hariva
      Hariva 25 June 2013 21: 44 New
      +1
      With crews?
      1. dustycat
        dustycat 26 June 2013 22: 53 New
        0
        This is how much to offer prize money ..
    4. svp67
      svp67 25 June 2013 23: 52 New
      0
      Quote: basil200
      And why not buy ours

      Yes, because they will not sell ...
  8. Pacifist
    Pacifist 25 June 2013 08: 53 New
    13
    In fact, the idea itself is wonderful ... and to make it even more wonderful, you do not have to buy tanks, but arrange international competitions laughing it will be worse than any Olympiad drinks
    1. fero
      fero 25 June 2013 09: 46 New
      0
      All this, of course, is excellent, only how to balance the technical characteristics of combat vehicles. After all, the filling is different for everyone ... engine power, sighting systems, even the number of crew members and something else smile
      1. Pacifist
        Pacifist 25 June 2013 10: 07 New
        +3
        That's the buzz. This would be a real MBT competition. Competition of ideas, concepts and application tactics. I think it would be insanely interesting.
        1. fero
          fero 25 June 2013 11: 20 New
          +1
          Given that the results of such games will affect the image of the tank in the eyes of potential buyers, no one will risk it. And in the framework of a specific tender, tanks are already undergoing comprehensive testing of applicants, except for a oncoming battle wink
          The “plus” in the eyes of manufacturers of MBT of such tests is that the results remain known only to a relatively narrow circle of people, it is easier to level out the shortcomings.
          1. nerd.su
            nerd.su 25 June 2013 20: 36 New
            +2
            Quote: fero
            Given that the results of such games will affect the image of the tank in the eyes of potential buyers, no one will risk it.

            So Yes. But constantly shying away from such proposals will also negatively affect the image.
      2. Beck
        Beck 25 June 2013 16: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: fero
        All this, of course, is excellent, only how to balance the technical characteristics of combat vehicles. After all, the filling is different for everyone ... engine power, sighting systems, even the number of crew members and something else


        All these differences in technical terms are compensated by something. If the engine is 100 horses stronger, but the mechanic didn’t turn correctly or didn’t drive onto the track bridge, then these 100 horses are completely useless. If a tank gun hits three kilometers, but the crew sees in the surveillance devices only the ground in front of the tank or the endless sky, then such a crew and sights are not needed. That is why tank competitions are needed where the skill of the crews, and not the performance characteristics of tanks, is tested.

        This is a very good innovation. Since the 80s, NATO has held annual competitions, at least in the past, for tank crews and precisely on their tanks. The Germans on the Leopards, the French on the AMX, the British on the Challengers, the Americans on the Abrams. These competitions are either platoon or company. And the vast majority of the crews of the “Leopards” came out victorious.
        1. Hariva
          Hariva 25 June 2013 22: 53 New
          +3
          Dear Beck, this is very interesting. I would like to know more. Have our t-72s 64 ever been taken in such a toy? In theory, NATO got quite a few of these machines ... It seems that they tried to “butt” with the “captured” MIGs in the early 90s (more successfully hehe).
          1. Beck
            Beck 26 June 2013 21: 12 New
            0
            Quote: Hariva
            Have our t-72s 64 ever been taken in such a toy? In theory, NATO got quite a few of these machines ... It seems that they tried to “butt” with the “captured” MIGs in the early 90s (more successfully hehe).


            Our Soviet tanks did not participate in these competitions. Of course, our tanks were studied, tests were conducted on them, but they could not participate in competitions. After all, it was only a competition of tank crews of NATO.
  9. Forest
    Forest 25 June 2013 09: 09 New
    +3
    The introduction of a competitive moment in training involves hidden opportunities thereby enhancing combat skill.
  10. evgenii67
    evgenii67 25 June 2013 09: 20 New
    +5
    Hello everyone! It’s a good idea to organize international competitions somewhere in the black earth, for example, in the Voronezh region, if it rains, it’s unlikely that anyone will compete hi , and it’s better not biathlon, but say pentathlon, for example: 1st to pass the track with obstacles for a while; 2nd to shoot back in motion and being in place; 3rd orientation using navigation and without it (using the map) on the ground, passing control points; 4th replacement (repair) of the truck; 5th evacuation, stretching, helping comrades ...
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 25 June 2013 09: 43 New
      +3
      Such competitions take place sometimes !!! When a neutral country opens a tender for the purchase of a main battle tank!
      1. evgenii67
        evgenii67 25 June 2013 09: 46 New
        +3
        Quote: neri73-r
        Such competitions take place sometimes !!! When a neutral country opens a tender for the purchase of a main battle tank!

        and when the war begins repeat
    2. omsbon
      omsbon 25 June 2013 09: 47 New
      +2
      International tank competitions are a super cool idea, and what an advertisement!
      1. evgenii67
        evgenii67 25 June 2013 09: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: evgenii67
        It’s a good idea to arrange international competitions somewhere in the black earth, for example, in the Voronezh region

        Quote: omsbon
        this is a super cool idea, and what an advertisement!

        Voronezh processed cheese plant "Yantar" laughing
        1. the47th
          the47th 26 June 2013 16: 45 New
          0
          Quote: evgenii67
          Voronezh processed cheese plant "Yantar" laughing

          The main prize in the world championship is a cup of processed cheese and chocolate medals.
      2. dustycat
        dustycat 26 June 2013 22: 51 New
        0
        Yeah, only business does not believe in it. Domestic for sure.
        Although the Paris-Beijing tank rally-rand is something there.
    3. Canep
      Canep 25 June 2013 14: 55 New
      +4
      Better this way:
      1 march 300 km at a time.
      2 shooting on the move at a distance of 500 m at moving targets, and up to 3000 m at fixed targets for a while.
      3 driving the tank under water for a while, taking into account the preparation time of the tank (sealing).
      4 driving a tank on a tacodrome with training obstacles for a while.
      5 device firing position (trench) for the tank in defense by means of self-digging, for a while.
      And in exactly this order.
      1. dustycat
        dustycat 26 June 2013 22: 50 New
        +1
        6. Detection of firing positions of anti-tank and sniper for a while.
    4. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 26 June 2013 02: 00 New
      +1
      The Russian land got it, we went to Europe, there are fields too!
  11. Mizhgan
    Mizhgan 25 June 2013 09: 44 New
    22
    Domestic "sport" is expanding its line of variety of martial arts ... "Aviation Darts", "Tank Biathlon", "Hammer Throw", oh ... not a hammer ... "Clubs".
    DEVELOPMENT OF DOMESTIC SPORTS IS THE BETTER OF HEALTH OF THE NATION !!!! HOWEVER.
    1. Pacifist
      Pacifist 25 June 2013 10: 09 New
      +4
      yelled. 5+ laughing good
    2. Hemi cuda
      Hemi cuda 25 June 2013 10: 47 New
      +4
      laughing positive portion of the positive good
    3. kazssr
      kazssr 25 June 2013 16: 33 New
      +1
      and even better not here but there, especially mace throwing
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 26 June 2013 02: 03 New
        +1
        Throwing "Clubs" There! laughing
        1. kazssr
          kazssr 27 June 2013 14: 31 New
          0
          And I am about laughing Of course
    4. the47th
      the47th 26 June 2013 16: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Mijgan
      Aviation Darts

      This is when you need to eject from a fighter and hit the target?
  12. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 25 June 2013 10: 42 New
    11
    That year, on Sakhalin, a tank company conducted exercises on the T-55, this year they promised to conduct battalion exercises. Our T-55s are the only tanks in the Russian army of this type. soldier And you say tank biathlon!
  13. badabing
    badabing 25 June 2013 10: 52 New
    +3
    super idea
    in general, in all military branches of the army, such competitions must be introduced, we will sharply raise the level of training, reduce hazing (which has not disappeared) and increase the prestige of the army until the time of Suvorov
    1. Tarpon
      Tarpon 25 June 2013 11: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: badabing
      super idea
      in general, in all branches of the army, such competitions must be introduced, we will sharply raise the level of training,

      Support!

      Quote: badabing
      reduce hazing (which has not gone anywhere) and increase the prestige of the army until the time of Suvorov

      For this competition alone is not enough.
  14. badabing
    badabing 25 June 2013 10: 56 New
    +2
    I forgot to add, and we’ll kick all the asses for sure! )
    on occasion, of course)
  15. fzr1000
    fzr1000 25 June 2013 11: 03 New
    +2
    So it would be possible to resolve contentious issues. The tank of whose country won, that country and rights. Utopia of course.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 25 June 2013 12: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: fzr1000
      Utopia of course.

      Good utopia ...
      1. Hariva
        Hariva 25 June 2013 22: 55 New
        0
        Utopia is like utopia. Utopias are a priori not bad))).
    2. svp67
      svp67 26 June 2013 22: 47 New
      0
      Quote: fzr1000
      So it would be possible to resolve contentious issues. The tank of whose country won, that country and rights. Utopia of course.
      You straight paul xnumx
  16. sq
    sq 25 June 2013 11: 07 New
    +1
    It would be nice to put some G. throwers for return fire, such as paintballs. In order not to relax, otherwise with a constant location of the targets after several visits, the results will be more than 100%.
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 26 June 2013 22: 47 New
      +1
      Yes, equip full-time cumulative and OFS instead of explosives with paint and that's it.
  17. sergey158-29
    sergey158-29 25 June 2013 11: 51 New
    -1
    Quote: evgenii67
    It’s a good idea to organize international competitions somewhere in the black earth, for example, in the Voronezh region, if it rains, it’s unlikely that anyone will compete hi .

    In Canada, similar competitions are held between NATO tankers. Unfortunately, today's Russian tanks are not their rivals (in sighting and information systems), which has been in the Leopard 2 leaders there for a year ... hi
    1. Mizhgan
      Mizhgan 25 June 2013 12: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: sergey158-29
      In Canada, similar competitions are held between NATO tankers. Unfortunately, today's Russian tanks are not their rivals (in sighting and information systems), which has been a leader there for a year there.

      And who and how (how) compared these competitions ???? I didn’t hear that our crews with armored vehicles were sent on a business trip to Canada for these competitions ... and even more so with today's domestic armored vehicles.
      Or just compared the Russian firing at the training ground of tank cadets with Canadian contract soldiers who have served for more than one year ????
    2. dustycat
      dustycat 26 June 2013 22: 46 New
      0
      And the Israeli comrades do the same, but with firing distances of 2-2,5 km.
  18. zzaharr
    zzaharr 25 June 2013 12: 00 New
    +2
    Quote: fero
    the filling is different for everyone ...

    And in the future, before a real clash, it is necessary to agree on a neutral territory in order to level the chances;)
    1. evgenii67
      evgenii67 25 June 2013 12: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: zzaharr
      need to negotiate in a neutral territory

      on the moon!
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 25 June 2013 12: 46 New
        +3
        Quote: evgenii67
        on the moon!

        Calm The moon is ours! We first traveled on it and set the flag! On Pluto.
    2. dustycat
      dustycat 26 June 2013 22: 45 New
      0
      And what does Paris Beijing do not drive? Via Gobi and Khingan.
  19. pensioner
    pensioner 25 June 2013 12: 44 New
    +3
    I imagined the world championship in this sport! We are on the t-90, the Indians are on them, there are still a lot of people on anything ... And the Jews in their super-duper merkava. I have some suspicions. that this 70-ton superwaffle will do it ... But if the tank sumo ... And then there are doubts about them ...
  20. ed65b
    ed65b 25 June 2013 13: 10 New
    +3
    Real shooting and real distances. up to 2 km just right considering our area. Not a desert. It has long been necessary to carry out. Good news. I haven’t seen such a thing over the hill.
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 26 June 2013 22: 43 New
      0
      On the mercans, they train and compete for 2-2,5 km according to almost the same pattern.
      Lagging behind.
  21. _KM_
    _KM_ 25 June 2013 13: 31 New
    +3
    At one time I read that the crew on the T-80 took part in the competition for the Canadian Army Trophy (I can confuse the name) - the unspoken competition of NATO tankers. So our all spat. After that, they were not invited to the Trophy.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 25 June 2013 14: 35 New
      +1
      I also remember this. Somewhere in the early 90s?
  22. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 25 June 2013 13: 50 New
    +1
    Quote: _KM_
    At one time I read that the crew on the T-80 took part in the competition for the Canadian Army Trophy (I can confuse the name) - the unspoken competition of NATO tankers. So our all spat. After that, they were not invited to the Trophy.

    I think this is a bike. If ours participated and won there, then this would be the most discussed news!
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 26 June 2013 22: 42 New
      0
      The bike.
      Israeli comrades will confirm.
  23. valerei
    valerei 25 June 2013 15: 35 New
    +2
    You give the organization in Russia of international competitions! Why is tank biathlon worse than ski rifle?
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 26 June 2013 22: 40 New
      0
      And with a tank rally raid from Paris to Beijing.
      1. svp67
        svp67 26 June 2013 22: 43 New
        0
        Quote: dustycat
        And with a tank rally raid from Paris to Beijing.

        No, it’s better to be in Beijing-Paris, as it’s more common for a TANK rally
  24. DZ_98_B
    DZ_98_B 25 June 2013 15: 42 New
    +4
    Hello! If the TV would connect ...... In my opinion, tanks are very beautiful cars !!!! Competitions in tanks are very spectacular and there will be no shortage of spectators. Perhaps more interesting for the audience would be a TANK BATTLE. on the rules of airsoft. Insert guns of reduced caliber into the guns. charge with paint containers. Field 3 x 3 km. but rather a crossed. A team, or maybe everyone for himself. Tanks are not necessarily new. CREW SHOULD CONSIST OF SOLDIER SOLDIERS. Except for the commander. What do you think when you see these competitions on TV, will the boys not want to serve in the army? Let the tanks even advertise. Sorry, just my opinion.
  25. badabing
    badabing 25 June 2013 15: 48 New
    +3
    Quote: Tarpon
    Quote: badabing
    super idea
    in general, in all branches of the army, such competitions must be introduced, we will sharply raise the level of training,

    Support!

    Quote: badabing
    reduce hazing (which has not gone anywhere) and increase the prestige of the army until the time of Suvorov

    For this competition alone is not enough.


    why, for starters, it’s enough
    motivate officers with bonuses and bonuses for success in competitions, give cars at district-level competitions, give apartments for nationwide
    officers will have an incentive to adequately train and train soldiers, they will have a desire to become the best in the truest sense of the word, such an officer will follow the order
    soldiers will have a desire to continue serving in the army, to achieve success, to implement the proverb about a bad soldier
    and ordinary boys from school will have their eyes burning, everyone will run to the army, excuses will be reduced, for this to do more showy competitions, to carry schoolchildren to such events
    but most importantly, the combat readiness of the army will be at its best
    there’s not much business in fact, the main thing is to give people the opportunity to realize
    the rot itself will eventually pass away, and there will be many times more normal people
  26. nnz226
    nnz226 25 June 2013 16: 20 New
    +5
    Each tank crew must go through such a biathlon 2-3 once a year, and not just the best or experienced ones.
  27. kazssr
    kazssr 25 June 2013 16: 39 New
    +2
    I am for international competitions, not a bad idea.
    [i] [i] DZ_98_B
    CREW SHOULD CONSIST OF SOLDIER SOLDIERS. Except for the commander.
  28. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 25 June 2013 20: 15 New
    +2
    Quote: Pacifist
    In fact, the idea itself is wonderful ... and to make it even more wonderful you need not to buy tanks, but to arrange international competitions laughing it will be worse than any Olympics

    where is your mercy? Think of the “poor” Germans, French, Americans and other bourgeois, because after such competitions no one will buy tanks from them.
    1. Hariva
      Hariva 25 June 2013 22: 59 New
      +1
      Well, why? The Germans will buy from the French, the French from the British, etc. ))) No, in fact, do not arm them with t-90mi?
  29. Selevc
    Selevc 25 June 2013 22: 38 New
    +2
    Competitions are certainly good, but war is something else - there are plenty of pre-war videos on which Soviet BT tanks dashingly drive, jump and overcome obstacles ... It's certainly beautiful, but the war showed that BT, for example, is already out of date by 42 ... It’s real combat clashes showed that the BT gun is weak and the armor is unreliable ... Yes, and jumping in real combat is not always necessary ...

    I hope that serious people in the Russian Federation are studying the Syrian experience of using the Soviet T-62 and T-72 ... There is much to learn in the tactics of using armored vehicles especially in urban battles from Syrian comrades ...
  30. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 26 June 2013 02: 06 New
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    Quote: badabing
    super idea
    in general, in all military branches of the army, such competitions must be introduced, we will sharply raise the level of training, reduce hazing (which has not disappeared) and increase the prestige of the army until the time of Suvorov

    ... all is better than setting off an offset after 2-3 shots, and then destroying the shells as expired, thus "burning" the folk money for which they were made!
  31. dustycat
    dustycat 26 June 2013 22: 38 New
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    The distance for the gun is small.
    And for a machine gun, an anti-tank crew will also not be enough to cover.
    According to the results of the Israeli-Syrian showdown - the defeat of tanks by anti-tank missiles Tou occurred from distances of 1500-2000m. And according to TTX, the javelin distance will only grow.
    When tanks meet tanks and self-propelled guns, the range of destruction is also about 2000 meters.

    Although the competition is good.
  32. Ugshsha82
    Ugshsha82 14 September 2013 12: 30 New
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    The new is always the old forgotten, remember Prokhorovka or the Moscow-Budapest-Vienna-Berlin rally, then all of us broke ... In general, I would have held such competitions in Germany, so to speak, a tradition, otherwise they began to forget how our tanks look ...
  33. roma26
    roma26 14 September 2013 14: 04 New
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    Shame on tankers!
    to the whole country and to the Minister of Defense
    the best crews of the country could not hit the target
    I’ll sleep restlessly because I understand how they guard me! am
  34. Ugshsha82
    Ugshsha82 15 September 2013 16: 52 New
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    And by the way, why not add the BMP biathlon, the APC biathlon, the BMD biathlon, now the Octopuses are running half tanks, the Octopus biathlon, why not. My brother served in the 80s as a BMP-2 driver, they had something similar, the prize was a 10-day vacation, the crews vomited to win, the incentive is obvious ...