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US Navy winged democracy

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The Nobel Committee noted that B. Obama fired more cruise missiles than all the other Nobel Peace Prize laureates put together.


The orange sun disc rolled into the waves of the Libyan Sea, and the night darkness thickened over the silent water. At midnight GMT, USS Florida Central received an order from Washington - “Start!” Waiting in ambush, the submarine rocket carrier moved an invisible shadow towards the Libyan coast. Operation Dawn Odyssey has begun.

... The rocket control panel flashed with anxious ruby ​​light and shone weapons. The commander and senior officer of the submarine at the same time turned the start keys - the missiles stood on a combat platoon. The guidance systems woke up, data on the position of the starting position flowed into the Tomahawks' on-board computers (target coordinates and digital relief maps along the flight route were pre-entered into the memory of the missiles while stationed at the Navy Diego Garcia).

- The key to start! - One after another, winged devils jump out from under the water and rush up. Hellish flashes of torches rush over the surface of the sleeping sea, and the boat continues to shoot and shoot. It seems that the ammo of USS Florida will not end ...

The start-up booster throws "Tomahawk" to 1000 feet. On the descending branch of the ballistic trajectory, the air intake of the main engine extends, the rocket spreads its short wings and rests on the combat course.



... Under the wing, the coastline was curved - the Battle Ax arrived in the area of ​​primary correction. TERCOM and DSMAC guidance systems are activated, the radar and optical sensors carefully “feel” the terrain. Having compared the data with satellite images, the Tomahawk swung the rudder short planes and rushed in the direction of the chosen target.

A swarm of cruise missiles flies over the sands of the Sahara. The Libyan air defense system occasionally sees flare on the radar screens, but is unable to take any measures to repel a rocket attack. The lighting is cut down, the chairs are overturned with a crash - the Libyans are noisy leaving the control posts of the C-200 SAM system. The complex is useless when firing at low-flying missiles, but it will certainly become the target of an American strike - people are running away from military equipment, and staying close to it has become deadly.

The Libyans do not know that their panic is closely monitored by three pairs of eyes - “so pi” from the French Foreign Legion (TACP). They will induce "Tomahawks" to the position of anti-aircraft missile battery. Special forces groups were secretly abandoned by helicopters into the territory of Libya a few hours before the first missile-bombing attack.

US Navy winged democracy

UGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missile. Starting mass 1,5 t. Flight range 1600 km.
The modern "Tomahawk Block IV" has learned: reprogrammed in flight; patrol over the battlefield in anticipation of suitable targets; hit moving targets; be used as anti-ship control


... The zened barreled anti-aircraft artillery, the gunners are trying to catch in the crosshairs of sights a "comet" racing in the sky. “He goes too low and fast, the angular movement is too large, I don’t have time to screw the trunks” - probably the Libyan soldier wanted to say exactly that, but instead of a long phrase, he had a desperate cry “Alla Akbar!”

"Tomahawk" deftly slipped the position of the charger-23-2 and all over the fly vmyalsya in the radar installation. The 454 explosive kg of the warhead ripped the earth from under their feet, the starry sky shuddered, overturned and carried off somewhere in the night, in the night, in the night ...

19 March 2011, the US Air Force and the US Navy suffered a massive rocket-bombing attack on Libyan strategic facilities. Airplanes and sea-based cruise missiles burned radars and air defense missile systems, destroyed equipment and warehouses of fuel and lubricants at airfields, hit military bases and command centers, disorganizing control of the Libyan army. Colonel Muammar Gaddafi overnight lost control of the situation in his country.

Having completed its sorrowful mission, USS Florida silently dissolved in the vast Mediterranean Sea. The 93 smoky traces of Tomahawks released slowly in the air ...

US Navy Rocket Launches

The boat with the monstrous destructive power of USS Florida (SSGN-728) is one of the four submarine arsenals of the US Navy, the result of a successful conversion of Ohio-type SSBNs into cruise missile carriers.

In 1994, a new doctrine of the development of US strategic nuclear forces (1994 Nuclear Posture Review) was adopted - largely the result of international treaties START-1 and START-2. According to the new doctrine, the number of Ohio-class nuclear submarines with ballistic missiles (SSBNs) was reduced from 18 to 14 units.
However, the Yankees were in no hurry to dispose of their "extra" boats. By the time the decision was made to reduce the SSBNs, the most “elderly” of the missile carriers destined to be written off had barely celebrated 12 years, and only Georgia had turned 10 - a ridiculous age for ships of this class.

Having thoroughly analyzed the situation, the Americans came up with how to save new ships without violating the terms of the Strategic Offensive Reductions Treaties. Instead, the ballistic missiles will equip the boat with other weapons, turning them into ships for special operations. The best tool for fire support in local conflicts and not only ...

By 2002, a detailed conversion plan was prepared - the Trident-1 missiles were unloaded from the boats and the Mk.98 firing control system was dismantled. Instead of 33-ton ballistic missiles, new 7-charging glasses were inserted into the launch shafts to accommodate the Tomahawk SLCM — the entire 22 mine with 7 cruise missiles each.



In reality, the composition of weapons looks a bit different - only 14 rocket mines are regularly used as multiply-charged launchers (№11 - №24, ammunition - 98 sea-based cruise missiles).

Another eight mines (№3 - №10) are usually used as compartments for storing weapons and special equipment for special operations forces - sea fur seals (SEAL). If necessary, 7-charging starting glasses for storing and launching "Tomahawks" can be inserted into them, increasing the maximum ammunition load of the boat to the 154 "Battle axes". Solid.


Airlock submarine "Florida"

The remaining two nasal missile silos (No. XXUMX and No. XXUMX) were converted into airlock chambers to reach the combat swimmers (saboteurs, light divers) - each is designed for simultaneous access to the outboard space of up to 1 people in the corresponding diving equipment.

Outside, in the felling area, mounted mount for containers Dry Deck Shelter, used to transport mini-submarines, experimental UAVs and other special equipment. In the interior of the ship is equipped with a cockpit to accommodate a detachment of 66 "fur seals" (it is reported that the landing can be short-term increased to hundreds of people).

In addition, torpedo armament remained on submarines as self-defense - four 533-mm torpedo tubes with 10 ammunition, Mk.48 torpedoes.


Using Dry Deck Shelter

As a result, the fleet received a unique warship for special operations - fire support (98 ... 154 "Tomahawk" - a real underwater launch site!), Secret ejection of saboteurs and special forces groups, transportation of equipment, secretive observation of the coast of the enemy (Ohio-type boats traditionally considered to be one of the most “quiet” nuclear submarines of the USA), finally, if necessary, the boat can be used as a conventional torpedo submarine.

The most vivid and expressive characteristic of the modernized "Ohio" was given by a high-ranking representative of the US Navy, who said in an interview with the Defense Weekly newspaper the following: “Within the framework of one submarine we have the opportunity to choose either a“ hammer ”(154“ Tomahawk ”) or a“ scalpel ”(60-100 is a man of naval special forces).

Ohio has a serious hydro-acoustic complex: the AN / BQQ-6 spherical antenna made by IBM occupies the whole nose section. In addition, the boats are equipped with an AN / BQS-13 active sonar, a short-range AN / BQS-15 sonar for safe navigation under the ice shell of the Arctic, as well as towed passive antennas TB-16 and TB-23 to eliminate the possibility of "stalking" enemy submarines in dead sector behind the submarine's stern (1400 sonar sensors of the TB-16 antenna are placed in the form of a thick, 9-centimeter cable 60 meters long - the antenna is towed behind the stern at a distance of 800 meters behind the submarine).

The Ohio is a fairly large ship. The surface displacement of the boat is 16 800 tons, scuba - 18 750 tons. Submarine length - 170,7 m; the greatest width of the hull is the 12,8 meter.
The boat has a mixed design - a robust cylindrical body divided into the 4 compartment, complemented by streamlined extremities, in which there are ballast tanks, a spherical antenna GAK and a propeller shaft. The upper part of the strong body is covered with a permeable lightweight superstructure, inside of which towed antennas and other auxiliary equipment are placed.

Regarding the range of operating speeds and depths of the "Ohio", the US Navy never advertise this information, limited to vague phrases:
Max. submerged speed of 20 + nodes;
working depth immersion 240 + meters.

Indirect evidence indicates that the submerged speed of the boat is no less than 25-30 knots. - Ohio is equipped with a single water-cooled S8G reactor with a thermal capacity of 220 MW, which drives two turbines with a total capacity of 60 000 hp. (The mass of the reactor compartment is 2750 tons, one recharge is enough for 20 years). For comparison: the Russian strategic launch missile submarine of the 955 project “Borey” is equipped with a OK-650В nuclear steam generating unit with a thermal power of 190 MW. Power turbines of the Russian nuclear-powered ship 50 000 hp, declared underwater speed 29 knots.
Regarding the depth of the dive, a number of sources indicate for Ohio a maximum depth of the order of 500 meters.

The conversion of Ohio into shock / multipurpose submarines continued from 2002 to 2008 for the year and was associated with a scheduled overhaul of nuclear-powered ships. In total, four units were upgraded - “Michigan”, “Florida”, “Georgia” and the head boat of the project of the same name - “Ohio”. The updated ships received a rare SSGN designation for the US Navy - submarine, guided missile, nuclear powered (literally - PLA with cruise missiles). Prior to this, such a “title” was worn by only one American submarine, the Halibat (SSGN-587), launched in the distant 1957 year.


Head "Ohio" is being upgraded

With the R & D conducted, the cost of upgrading and converting each of the Ohio cost the US budget 800 million dollars (for comparison, the same amount is the construction of a new UDC of the Mistral type).
As for the continuation of the construction (conversion) of similar submarines, no plans on this subject can be heard. Which is understandable - four Ohio drums can bring down sea-based cruise missiles to the enemy in a salvo to 600 (not counting Orly Burk destroyers and dozens of other types of PLA). Where more?

In addition, the capabilities of the US Navy information centers for developing flight missions for the Tomahawks are limited - the Yankees are unlikely to be able to train more than a thousand cruise missiles in a short time.

Boats regularly serve "in the name of the spread of democracy." It is no coincidence that the first overseas “presentation” of the modernized “Ohio” was held in 2008, in the naval base of Busan (South Korea) - in one of the “hottest” parts of the world.

However, the case is not limited to one “flag demonstration”. In less than five years from the moment they were commissioned, the nuclear submarine Florida had to take part in a real combat operation. The boat distinguished itself when striking Libya in the spring of 2011 of the year: the 93 of Tomogawk released overnight — the result, frankly, impressive.

Epilogue

An amazing thing! The Americans finally managed to create a successful, and at the same time relatively cheap and economical ship.

It's no secret that most of the time the US Navy is buried in "technological glamor", mastering budget powerful and modern warships, however, possessing a completely transcendental cost and an excessively complex construction. The aircraft carrier "Gerald Ford" ($ 13,2 billion without R & D and wing), the stealth destroyer "Zamvolt" ($ 3 billion without R & D). The newest multi-purpose nuclear submarines of the Virginia type (to date, the cost of construction has exceeded 2,5 billion dollars) ...

And suddenly, in the midst of all these wonders, there is a project of upgrading quite elderly submarines at a ridiculous price for the US Navy - just $ 0,8 billion per unit. On the technical side, the Ohio is a strong warship, without any frills and "nanotechnology." The severe calculation of the nuts and steel of the Cold War, saturated to the limit with high-precision cruise missiles and diving equipment.







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  1. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 24 June 2013 07: 47 New
    -8
    The vaunted American wars ... Cap sits like a typical American dormoater and chases his chaluys ...
    1. Vovka levka
      Vovka levka 24 June 2013 12: 22 New
      17
      Quote: Scandinavian
      The vaunted American wars ... Cap sits like a typical American dormoater and chases his chaluys ...

      How much hate? Just scary.
      You are a true patriot, as our motto says through thorns to the stars.
      In the American army, the paramount importance was attached to organizing the conditions of service of personnel, and rightly so. In American submarines, air conditioners were already in the first world war. And in World War II, American submarines made Japan a real collapse, knocking out almost the entire merchant fleet that Japan was without resources.
      If you think America is the enemy, then this is your own business. But the enemy must be respected and soberly assessed its potential capabilities. For hatred leads to blindness and error.
    2. postman
      postman 24 June 2013 15: 02 New
      +5
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Cap sits like a typical American dormoer and chases his khalui ..

      I honestly did not understand ...
      How about us?
      Submarine commander, what does he “twist” the main shaft?

      What are the differences?

      Carry crap.

      Truth......
      the truth is, it happens with us (nervous and children can turn off the sound) smile
    3. Doctor Evil
      Doctor Evil 24 June 2013 19: 00 New
      0
      If you are talking about the fact that the photo is in the center, then this is not Cap. Warrant officer (the class cannot be taken apart) is the analogue of our midshipman. There is only one officer (crossed his arms over his chest).
      1. dustycat
        dustycat 29 June 2013 16: 45 New
        0
        Say simply - the boatswain.
  2. Kars
    Kars 24 June 2013 08: 41 New
    +3
    ______________ bully
  3. Nayhas
    Nayhas 24 June 2013 08: 46 New
    0
    A good review Oleg, but as always emotions, emotions ...
    1. Vovka levka
      Vovka levka 24 June 2013 11: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Nayhas
      A good review Oleg, but as always emotions, emotions ...

      Emotions of envy.
      There is something to be learned, especially in organizational approaches, in the planning and development of an approach to the combat use of weapons.
    2. Uncle
      Uncle 24 June 2013 13: 52 New
      0
      Quote: Nayhas
      Good review Oleg,

      Another ode to the American Navy, I thought that the author was a Professor, but no, it turned out to be our man.
      1. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 24 June 2013 19: 22 New
        +6
        Quote: Uncle
        Quote: Nayhas
        Good review Oleg,

        Another ode to the American Navy, I thought that the author was a Professor, but no, it turned out to be our man.


        Wash quite an objective article about the competent re-equipment of nuclear submarines. An indicative moment, by the way. For example, how our diplomatic efforts for disarmament turn into a military-technological nightmare.
  4. sashka
    sashka 24 June 2013 09: 06 New
    +7
    Good boat, what can I say. Of course, it’s a pity that it’s not ours. But there is something to strive for.
    1. ramsi
      ramsi 24 June 2013 09: 13 New
      +5
      very competently, beautifully, maybe even exemplary, a specific practical problem was solved at once in several planes
    2. Atrix
      Atrix 24 June 2013 12: 11 New
      0
      Interestingly, our multi-purpose boats are capable of landing such an amount of landing in secret? I just looked at the "Ash" looks somehow pale in armament, we will be full, which is superior in performance characteristics.
      1. Santa Fe
        24 June 2013 13: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: Atrix
        I just looked at the "Ash" looks somehow pale in armament, we will be full, which is superior in performance characteristics.

        Ash is made for completely different tasks.
        It differs in dimensions, and weapons and performance characteristics

        Of the western boats, Yasenyu is closest to Sea Wolf
        1. Atrix
          Atrix 24 June 2013 13: 44 New
          0
          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          Quote: Atrix
          I just looked at the "Ash" looks somehow pale in armament, we will be full, which is superior in performance characteristics.

          Ash is made for completely different tasks.
          It differs in dimensions, and weapons and performance characteristics

          Of the western boats, Yasenyu is closest to Sea Wolf

          Well, as I understand it, it is more made for anti-ship use? And then we have something like Ohio.
          But as far as I remember, like you wrote that “Ash” is still far from “Sea Wolf”, if you can write why you think so. If you wrote it.
          1. Santa Fe
            25 June 2013 01: 58 New
            0
            Quote: Atrix
            And then we have something like Ohio.

            было
            667AT Ave.
            Quote: Atrix
            But as far as I remember, like you wrote that “Ash” is still far from “Sea Wolf”, if you can write why you think so. If you wrote it.

            According to Yasen there are a number of contradictions
            the boat is positioned as a 4 generation submarine, but at the same time:
            good old YAPPU OK-650В is used as a power plant
            nothing is heard about the system of isolated deck and active noise suppressors

            the same American Sea Wolf has a number of interesting design solutions: self-propelled torpedoes, a telescopic multi-purpose mast instead of a periscope, etc.
            Ashen has nothing of the kind. It is not clear by what criteria he was recorded in the new generation. The fact that the GAS has finally abandoned the usual location of the torpedo compartment and the entire bow is now occupied - such a solution has already been used abroad for 40 years.

            At the same time, the boat is cool in its own way - aboard the 32 UVP under the Caliber + the huge sensitive Amphora in the bow

            Here, by the way, is the manufacture of a launch cup cover for Ash (8 mines x 4 = 32)
          2. dustycat
            dustycat 29 June 2013 16: 50 New
            0
            Were
            Part of it was cut, part of the mines airing the mines, and what they can do now (can they swim?) - no one will say.
            And here envy takes.
            What prevents our admirals from wanting the same ?!
            However, it is clear that.
            We almost didn’t let our shipyards for modernization in Ohio go to scrap.
  5. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 24 June 2013 09: 35 New
    0
    Quote: Scandinavian
    The vaunted American wars ... Cap sits like a typical American dormoater and chases his chaluys ...

    What makes you think he's a cap? At first glance, "double bass"!
  6. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM 24 June 2013 09: 50 New
    0
    Carriers of death!
  7. Batkamahno
    Batkamahno 24 June 2013 10: 07 New
    +1
    Ships of this class are not built without the desire to conduct special operations. The democratization tool came on time
    1. Atrix
      Atrix 24 June 2013 12: 03 New
      +5
      Quote: BatkaMahno
      Ships of this class are not built without the desire to conduct special operations. The democratization tool came on time

      Initially, it was not built for special operations. That we would have thrown out the boat, and the Americans altered it under cruise missiles and special operations. There, people know how to count money.
      1. dustycat
        dustycat 29 June 2013 16: 52 New
        0
        We part and threw.
        The rest are unknown for what are now suitable.
  8. Tarpon
    Tarpon 24 June 2013 10: 14 New
    +3
    The Nobel Committee noted that B. Obama fired more cruise missiles than all the other Nobel Peace Prize laureates put together.

    What, one more prize will be given?
  9. LOCKS
    LOCKS 24 June 2013 10: 51 New
    +7
    Well, here is a worthy example of modernization. And we are our "Sharks" in scrap metal. One was somehow attached, and the rest was unprofitable, irrational, etc. Or we have only friends and needs around P.L. for special operations no?
    1. old man54
      old man54 24 June 2013 13: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: LOCKS
      Well, here is a worthy example of modernization. And we are our "Sharks" in scrap metal. One was somehow attached, and the rest was unprofitable, irrational, etc. Or we have only friends and needs around P.L. for special operations no?

      that's it! Maybe our pr.941 is not the most quiet, but how much RCC could be there, cr. push along the shore and stuff, huh? But the situation with our Sharks, and not only with them, just proves once again that today we have at the helm of the country pure 3,14doraces and traitors! And GDP is slightly better than others, traitors and thieves. From this position, the whole situation with the Moscow Region, the Navy, and the armament in the Armed Forces in general becomes understandable and clear, like God's day!
  10. karal
    karal 24 June 2013 11: 01 New
    +5
    And what can our army oppose to the Amer fleet except Serdyukov with his Babskiy battalion?
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 24 June 2013 18: 25 New
      +3
      The Babsk battalion, armed with a tripper, can disable the enemy brigade for a month. laughing
      1. Akhtuba73
        Akhtuba73 24 June 2013 21: 41 New
        0
        And this is the WMD ... non-proliferation treaty, etc. etc.
  11. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 24 June 2013 11: 18 New
    +7
    Nice ship. Competent modernization. Enviously. Hope we can create something like this.
  12. barbiturate
    barbiturate 24 June 2013 12: 56 New
    +2
    the ship is not bad, no question, but again, against whom is he? here they talked a lot about the need for aircraft carriers and with regard to the United States, are they really not really needed, but such a boat? Its cost was enormous at the time + 1 billion for modernization and armament + how much will the operation of not a new boat gobble up, but against whom? Shoot Libya? Yes, for those grandmas that it stands, you can adjust the container ship and shove 1000 cr and shoot at it with the same success, the resistance is still 0 (and grandmas will remain to note all this properly)). For a serious military operation, 150kr is a drop in the bucket, like 50 special forces soldiers + a boat is huge and there is nothing to do near the shore. The result is more show-offs, the use of a huge and expensive apl as a barge to launch missiles at a defenseless enemy.
    Of course, the amers ’desperate attempt to adapt everything that is possible to work on the shore is understandable because they simply don’t have (yet) an adversary in the sea, but the huge apl - carrier cr, will still be inferior to everyone in any way, from cost to efficiency at work on the shore.
    Although I repeat, I really like the boat, only the reason for its appearance is not in efficiency, but in an attempt to adapt
    1. old man54
      old man54 24 June 2013 13: 55 New
      +4
      Quote: barbiturate
      Its cost was at one time enormous + 1 billion for modernization and armament + how much will the operation of not a new boat gobble up, but against whom? Shoot Libya? Yes, for those grandmas that it stands, you can adjust the container ship and shove 1000 cr on it and shoot with the same success, the resistance is still 0.
      Although I repeat, I really like the boat, only the reason for its appearance is not in efficiency, but in an attempt to adapt

      fundamentally disagree with you! Naturally, these boats were not designed for work in Libya and other Arab-African countries, for this it is definitely redundant. With the launching range of Tomogavk it could be pinned with NK in the same way, no one would have reacted to this. But ... is it still not clear to everyone that the Americans are entering the last stage of creating their own aircraft for COMPLETE AND UNCERRUPLOUS DOMINATION ON THE EARTH - Dictate, for which, in fact, they need such an obviously redundant army today, and especially the fleet (there are no close opponents in terms of strength). But to suppress the national resistance of various states flaring up here and there (not excluding Europe) + purely psychological suppression by the "masses" of them - this is what such ships and others are for! The United States has long been puzzled not by the defense measures of its coasts and its satellites, but to prepare for the dictates of the whole world! The elements of this doctrine are being practiced in the Mediterranean. I believe that if they fail to finally bribe our thieves in power today (an "elite" type) and force them to crush the country into small pieces, a la Europe, then we, Russia, will have a snack with them, when we enter into unions not with anyone already! Something like that!:(((
    2. dustycat
      dustycat 29 June 2013 16: 55 New
      0
      Against us and you.
      Here about similar systems and threats from them the temporarily acting recently at the summit also spoke.

      Tomahawks can also spank on naval targets - they don’t care what mission to perform.
  13. old man54
    old man54 24 June 2013 14: 08 New
    +6
    I liked the article very much, it’s very worked out and weighed, which distinguishes the author. Reading at the beginning, I didn’t want to put “+”, because there was a feeling of some kind of piety among the author in front of the "potential" partner "", but after reading it all, I realized that the author, through elements of enthusiasm for the achievements of our spiritual worldview antipodes (USA), is trying to reach out to the consciousness and members of the forum and, most importantly, make him act the remains of brains in the heads of the ruling and fattening tops of Russia (I hope they read). To the author of "+"! Reading is not very pleasant and even somewhat alarming (if the Soul hurts for the Homeland), but it is also necessary and very useful - it is sobering and lowers to the sinful Earth!
    1. Santa Fe
      25 June 2013 02: 00 New
      +1
      Thanks for the feedback, Andrew.

      It would be uninteresting to write without attention, comments, and criticism of VO visitors.
  14. 128mgb
    128mgb 24 June 2013 15: 24 New
    +3
    The Nobel Committee noted that B. Obama fired more cruise missiles than all the other Nobel Peace Prize laureates put together.
    Laughing for about five minutes, as it turns out, it is not enough to get a prize. Poor Nobel ..
    A gorgeous article, thanks!
  15. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 24 June 2013 15: 36 New
    +1
    Fucking Nobel Prize Laureate peace. how many people all over the world have sent the “light” to TOT ..., is trying, probably wants to visit the laureates again! ... something “prophets” about 44 black president was apparently mistaken. maybe this will happen already after 44 exactly black? ...
  16. patsantre
    patsantre 24 June 2013 15: 54 New
    +2
    Oh, a very serious thing. Indeed, a single submarine with 150 KR can make such a rustle, and 4 pieces are already capable of organizing a very serious massive disarmament strike ... In our long loafs (project 949) they could cram calibers and upgrade them wisely. That would be real power, relatively inexpensive, with its own niche, and very effective. A few of such props from the coast of some prominent govnostan surfaced, and they immediately subside, and if they do not subsist they will grab a cradle of 600 KR, and this is no longer in slippers, so much inf astrukturu and the army of a small country to bring down again.
    1. Doctor Evil
      Doctor Evil 24 June 2013 19: 19 New
      +4
      Unfortunately, you are right. Recently, the article was about our depressing backwardness in terms of lighting the underwater situation even in the coastal zone. As I present 600 "Axes" from the White Sea in the interior of the country, it becomes sadly. I don’t panic, I just want to swear.
      1. Santa Fe
        24 June 2013 21: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: Dr. Evil
        As I present 600 "Toporov" from the White Sea in the interior of the country

        Vain fears

        All Aegis and Tomahawks - for local wars with a simple adversary
        For Russia possessing a strategic nuclear forces, only the “real”, unmoderned “Ohio” with the Tridents are dangerous

        SLBM Trident-2 hunts for gulls
        1. old man54
          old man54 25 June 2013 12: 59 New
          0
          and here you are mistaken, Oleg! See my comment below on the branch!
  17. papik09
    papik09 24 June 2013 22: 52 New
    -2
    Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
    Quote: Dr. Evil
    As I present 600 "Toporov" from the White Sea in the interior of the country

    Vain fears

    All Aegis and Tomahawks - for local wars with a simple adversary
    For Russia possessing a strategic nuclear forces, only the “real”, unmoderned “Ohio” with the Tridents are dangerous

    SLBM Trident-2 hunts for gulls

    I support 100% of their Kyrgyz Republic against Russia - they just relax, well, like, Charlie Chaplin nervously smokes wink
  18. Zomanus
    Zomanus 24 June 2013 23: 54 New
    +2
    150 axes in one salvo is strong. Here, no C-300 / 400 does. True, we have "Caliber" s of various modifications. And this ... we are not positioning ourselves as an aggressor, so we are obviously lagging behind in offensive weapons.
  19. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 25 June 2013 00: 27 New
    +1
    Quote: Dr. Evil
    Unfortunately, you are right. Recently, the article was about our depressing backwardness in terms of lighting the underwater situation even in the coastal zone. As I present 600 "Axes" from the White Sea in the interior of the country, it becomes sadly. I don’t panic, I just want to swear.

    I am not an alarmist, but unfortunately I have to agree with the “Doctor ...” - nothing can survive such a missile attack from one region - there simply aren’t enough missiles, and taking into account maneuvering, they will easily cover the central region of Russia. It is necessary to protect not only land borders, but even more carefully the sea depths.
    1. Santa Fe
      25 June 2013 01: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Zomanus
      150 axes in one salvo is strong. There is no C-300 / 400

      Quote: Starover_Z
      nothing can survive such a missile attack from one region

      And the 336 SLBM Trident-II D-5 do not bother you at all?
  20. rudolff
    rudolff 25 June 2013 02: 23 New
    +3
    Oleg, BRs are serious things, of course, but one such Florida in the Barents and her friend in Okhotsk (and they used to go there during the union), taking into account the current coefficient of combat tension of our strategists, can almost completely destroy our entire naval component of the strategic nuclear forces. And in the case of picking "axes" special. combat units, can produce and advanced "tidy" a significant part of our territory. But then you can expect mail packages from classic strategists. So which of these ships is more dangerous, you still need to scratch the back of your head! good
    1. old man54
      old man54 25 June 2013 12: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: rudolff
      So which of these ships is more dangerous, you still need to scratch the back of your head! good

      I agree with you !! Their high-precision RCs, even with conventional warheads, are extremely dangerous. At what distance are our current air defense able to detect the flight of the Tomahawk? Himself not quite in the subject, let the air defense say. But the start of their ballistic missiles gives us 10 / 15 minutes as a minimum for the GFN to bring full combat readiness and their start. Those. the possibility of a retaliatory strike. Of course, the boys from under Alaska are scared. And so, if you correctly compare them in time, approach the Tomahawk targets and the Trident launches and the US silo ICBMs, then we’ll figure out what happened, why the country's missile defense system went down and what it all means ... and then the ICBMs arrived. I won’t go on, everyone knows, not for the faint of heart.
      SNF, Oleg, works only in the system, and he, too, is not a ponope himself! But it seems like in our Moscow Region they still understand this.
  21. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 25 June 2013 12: 59 New
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    Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN

    And the 336 SLBM Trident-II D-5 do not bother you at all?


    I’m a land man, a signalman, I’m familiar with officers of such ranks that I’m not reassured on this occasion, and the real officer will not chat, but judging by the publications, they seem to be watching over boats with SLBMs, and nothing about the boats with Tomogavki did not met.
    Alas, God forbid, this Apocalypse will begin, but when the Tridents and Minutemans fly, but to the meeting of Voivode, Poplar, Maces with Blue, Stylet and Scalpel ", then it’s too late to do anything, it remains to wrap yourself in sheets and crawl to a convenient place.
  22. olegka
    olegka 26 June 2013 16: 22 New
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    I would like to see a competent commentary on the modernization of the Shark from the site’s editors following the example of Ohio. All the same, the Shark is a gigantic ship, we have three of them and imagine this armada cr. And well done Americans, they don’t cut ships like us and some kind of Qatar will not spit in their faces. I think that with competent modernization and surface cover (combat protection), our Sharks - a mobile squadron will become a dangerous ocean diplomat.
    1. Santa Fe
      27 June 2013 14: 13 New
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      Quote: olegka
      competent commentary on the modernization of the Shark following the example of Ohio.

      I’m guessing what can be written here. There are no drawings on this subject. any reliable facts - also

      However, our Navy also had something on this topic (conversion of SSBNs and SSBNs) - the 667AT "Pear" project
      hi
  23. Russian whale
    Russian whale 7 September 2017 09: 35 New
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    The conversion program for an Ohio SSBN into an Ohio-type SSBN was discussed in detail in articles published in the magazine World of Arms in 2004, in the newspaper VPK in 2006, in Bratishka magazine in 2009, and in Arsenal magazine a little later.
    Here are a couple of links.
    http://www.bratishka.ru/archiv/2009/6/2009_6_11.p
    hp
    http://vpk-news.ru/articles/2297
    Probably, it would be necessary to put them in the list of literature nevertheless