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State Department Report: Human Trafficking in Russia

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Recently, the US State Department accused the Russian Federation of the fact that in our country things are not going well for such a problem as human trafficking. According to the US Foreign Ministry, Russia is at the very bottom of the list in terms of the volume of black business in human trafficking, closely adjoining to such states as Somalia or Congo. So that the Russians are not too worried about us in the “group” they added China.


After the publication of this kind of data, State Department spokesman Louis Sidebak spoke, stating that the United States can take tough measures against Russia, as the situation with human trafficking in our country is threatening. What kind of measures these measures might be is still a question, but there is no doubt that they can somehow remind the notorious Magnitsky law.

On the one hand, one can be indignant for a long time about the fact that Americans once again climb into their own business, but one cannot deny the fact that trafficking in Russia really takes place. Literally every day in the press and the Internet there is information about the disappearance of people, who then end up either in the dens, or in illegal enterprises, where unskilled workers are required.

One of these episodes recently occurred in the capital. A resident of one of the small Siberian cities, graduated hairdressers courses, found an ad in the newspaper that a beauty salon was beginning to work in Moscow, recruiting young girls aged 18 to 23 for work. The large salary indicated in the announcement attracted the girl, and she went to the capital. She did not succeed in starting a job as a hairdresser. First, they took her passport under the pretext of applying for a job, then they took her to “inspect the place of work”. What happened along the way, the girl does not remember, but she remembers that she was brought to some kind of room, similar to aviation hangar. After that, a nightmare began with beatings and forced prostitution. About six months later she was forced to “work” under close supervision in various cities near Moscow. According to the girl’s stories, she and several others who came to Moscow for normal work sold from one owner to another. Torment continued until the moment of escape. The victim did not specify the nuances of the escape, but said that she was helped by kind people who simply came to the rescue.

This история says that human trafficking in Russia, unfortunately, is not an empty sound. It is another matter that the situation in the USA is not much better, but the United States does not pay attention to its problems in this case.
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  1. Edward72
    Edward72 22 June 2013 07: 36
    +8
    That's the fact of the matter, it's easy to see a speck in someone else's eye when the log is in your own.
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 22 June 2013 07: 38
      10
      Quote: Edward72
      That's the fact of the matter, it's easy to see a speck in someone else's eye when the log is in your own.

      Speaking of a log:

      18 2013 June
      The owners of the American network 7-Eleven arrested for slavery
      http://www.pravdaimif.ru/blogs/35161/






      After the publication of this kind of data, the US State Department spokesman Luis Sidebaka spoke, who said that the United States could take harsh measures against Russia, since the situation with human trafficking in our country is threatening.

      Another pretext to spoil and try to put pressure on Russia in connection with its intransigence in Syria.
    2. cartridge
      cartridge 22 June 2013 07: 41
      16
      Let them deal with the millions of illegal "Latinos" at home, but with their pig's snout, there is no need to climb into our Kalashny row.
      How do they write on the fence: "Yankee go home"? So let them all go and fuck ... ohm wink
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 22 June 2013 20: 21
        +6
        I am always amused by the "righteous anger" of many local commentators after the next report of the State Department.
        Particularly amused by the desire to answer - "... but they beat the Indians ..." Well, or "... illegal immigrants 12 million ...".
        It’s as if this (their problems) is changing something about our problems.
        Why is this position considered patriotism lol

        THEIR report is published by THEIR State Department as the official attitude of THEIR state to any problems in the world.
        I don’t understand any reaction to him ...

        A similar reaction (by the way since the days of the USSR :-) is essentially a recognition of their supremacy (moral first of all).
        Those. "... we were judged unfairly ..." in the ministry of the World Ruler.
        In my opinion, to react this way is not to respect yourself.

        And the fact that if you have your own dignity, you won’t notice such a report in a good way at all, it somehow doesn’t come to mind.

        And the best answer would be - silence + publication, for example, of a real program to combat slavery, oppression of illegal Tajiks, etc.
        And not shouts - "... and you have blacks oppressed ..."
    3. experienced
      experienced 22 June 2013 08: 16
      +6
      The fact that we were placed here together with China does not surprise me at all. Can the States be reminded who shouted the loudest "about the atrocities of the Russian army in Chechnya" and on the facts show in which region the services of slaves are used and who "protects". However, the problem is not new, and if it still exists, it means that it brings money to many. Naive girls who believe that they are invited to work for 100500 miles of money will never run out. hi
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 22 June 2013 08: 52
        +5
        Regularly I see in Moscow and Moscow Region leaves glued to the walls: A person disappeared / left home and did not return. Also, chopped off heads and other parts of the body are regularly found in the capital: in garbage bins, rivers and other bodies of water. It is scary to think how many have not been found yet.

        A separate topic is children.

        But surely 90% of these cases are not related to the topic of this article. Only 10% remains. The police are not particularly involved in such matters, which is unpleasant.

        Another question - Where did the homeless plural living in Moscow and the region go? And those homeless people whom I saw for several years in a row. I even greeted one.

        No, it’s not that they were completely gone, but it became an order of magnitude smaller. Have you received apartments from the state?

        I also remember that at the beginning of the crisis, when many people lost their jobs almost once a week for one to two months, I watched electric corpses from the window. But this is apparently a pure crime.
        1. Constantine
          Constantine 22 June 2013 11: 25
          +1
          Well, about the regularity of finding severed heads and body parts - you certainly went too far. I myself live in Moscow and such an abomination is rather an exception to the rule.
          1. zvereok
            zvereok 22 June 2013 14: 17
            +3
            Maybe he went too far, but remember last year, there was information about the heads in the media 3 times, in addition, the bones were found and the limbs.
            1. cdrt
              cdrt 22 June 2013 20: 41
              +1
              Severed heads - most likely some kind of maniac. But the fact that Tajiks are ALWAYS actually taken away their passports when hiring a job is actually slavery.
      2. Tersky
        Tersky 22 June 2013 13: 03
        +2
        Quote: seasoned
        Can the States be reminded who shouted loudest "about the atrocities of the Russian army in Chechnya?

        Alexey, hello! In fact, whoever pays for the slaves organizes the labor trade, a member of the US House of Representatives Christopher Smith published data that from 50 to 100 thousand sex slaves and children are sent from Russia to the United States every year. And the State Department is "outraged", and reiterates everyone and everything ... start with yourself, de @ silt lustful.
    4. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 22 June 2013 08: 40
      +1
      Yes, can this be said about them?. Write laziness, the article will come out. About heroin I’ll be silent at all.
    5. dustycat
      dustycat 22 June 2013 11: 15
      -2
      And why fight against their slave owners exploiting illegal immigrants and organ traffickers?
      Revenues to GNP are already small, so why further increase the number of your unemployed?

      And then there is our law against adoption for Americans ...
    6. Dron
      Dron 27 June 2013 00: 50
      0
      The Americans have not destroyed the law enforcement mechanism. In Russia, the criminal code is as successful as the Somali one. The enforcement mechanism in Russia has been deliberately destroyed. This mechanism is the officials who monitor the implementation of laws (the executive branch) and the law that forces officials not to engage in extortion, providing for punishment against officials who substitute personal interests for their official duties (the law on bribery). The law on bribery, after the collapse of the USSR, was "eased" three times by the State Duma (the death penalty and confiscation of property were removed, the mandatory term of imprisonment was removed), as a result, the extortion of bribes, instead of fulfilling official duties, became attractive and safe, turning into a profitable business. And since only officials, and no one else, are engaged in monitoring the observance of laws, therefore the laws are not enforced and the country has a progressive rampant crime and crime. In the USSR, the mechanism for enforcing laws worked; bribery was subject to mandatory confiscation and a mandatory term of imprisonment. Countries with a missing enforcement mechanism do not live long.
  2. pinecone
    pinecone 22 June 2013 07: 47
    +1
    The fruits of democracy, or, as many remember, "denationalization". They had such a term, introduced into circulation in 1992. The state was thoroughly denied.
  3. fenix57
    fenix57 22 June 2013 07: 54
    +6
    The Thirteenth Amendment to the US Constitution reads: “No slavery ... should exist, except as a punishment for a crime, the charge of which is duly charged, both in the United States and in any place under their jurisdiction”- so that amer slavery is generally legalized! So let them sit and not tweet!
    1. zart_arn
      zart_arn 22 June 2013 10: 38
      +3
      No slavery ... should exist

      amers generally legalized slavery!

      Not quite true, in the original it sounds like this:
      "Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
      It's about slavery and "servitude, unless it is a punishment for a crime for which the person has been duly convicted."Those. it is about correctional and hard labor for convicts.
      We will not be likened to the false statements of some of the same State Department and distort the meaning, tearing quotes.
  4. andrei332809
    andrei332809 22 June 2013 07: 58
    +2
    We, of course, have enough hoopoes, but in comparison with the Amers and Europeans (especially the Eastern ones), we live more calmly. let the politicians break their spears, but I deeply do not care about all sorts of Western ratings and reports. and, I hope, Lavrov and the Chinese will besiege these "freedom fighters"
    1. Very old
      Very old 22 June 2013 10: 36
      0
      And if Lavrov is silent, we’ll turn directly to people: show D. Sam a MIRROR
    2. cdrt
      cdrt 22 June 2013 20: 46
      +1
      1. "... I really don't give a damn ..." - here's +100500 for you
      2. Well, Lavrov and the Chinese "freedom fighters" are absolutely matched by the State Department wink
  5. Alexey Prikazchikov
    Alexey Prikazchikov 22 June 2013 07: 59
    0
    And what is the Mexican border already blocked? Or did the LA economy suddenly cease to be based on plowing Latinos for $ 7 a day?
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 22 June 2013 09: 01
      0
      You do not know how to analyze different US lists correctly, these reports show the main competitors.
      1. Alexey Prikazchikov
        Alexey Prikazchikov 22 June 2013 09: 12
        0
        They shoved Chukhontsev into this list so the devil knows what the Finns didn’t please. Odo I know their ratings are nonsense.
        1. Constantine
          Constantine 22 June 2013 11: 27
          0
          Their ratings were always delirious. An attempt to manipulate public opinion and no more. Unless recently they began to work roughly and their intentions and schools are becoming apparent to an increasing number of people :)
  6. crazy_fencer
    crazy_fencer 22 June 2013 08: 11
    0
    Not by washing, so by skating. The State Department’s usual irritated reaction to the outcome of the G8 summit on Syria.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 22 June 2013 09: 04
      +2
      The article was published before the summit, if I’m not mistaken.
  7. minimum
    minimum 22 June 2013 08: 18
    +2
    Americans dare to demand that we fight the slave trade? Yes, it’s just some kind of arrogance, they’re completely embarrassed to climb into our sovereign affairs! the Magnitsky’s act didn’t allow corrupt officials and bandits in uniform, now they’re talking about the slave trade .. minya is already a triset!
  8. fedorovith
    fedorovith 22 June 2013 08: 26
    0
    Yes, do not pay attention to their stink, this is their reaction to the actions of Russia, so everything is done correctly.
    1. poquello
      poquello 22 June 2013 18: 45
      +1
      "Do not pay attention to their stench, this is their reaction to Russia's actions, then everything is being done correctly."

      Indeed, we will catch up and overtake the world in crime.
    2. cdrt
      cdrt 22 June 2013 20: 49
      +1
      Of course, everything is done right. And the State Department report confirms this. Passports taken away from Tajiks at construction sites - right!
  9. jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 22 June 2013 08: 28
    0
    let them deal with their economy better
  10. pahom54
    pahom54 22 June 2013 08: 31
    +2
    Yes, it takes place to be in Russia, regrettably ... BUT !!! This is our, Russian problem, which the Russian authorities must solve! Or is Russia already considered as one of the US states ??? Here for such so-called statements it is necessary to beat in the nose at the state level. The USA behaves as owners - to whom I want - I advise, to whom I want - I indicate ... It's time, it's time to bring down this arrogance ...
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 22 June 2013 20: 51
      0
      So the fact of the matter is that the hysteria "... you have blacks lynched ..." as an answer to the report - there is a RECOGNITION that they have the right to build us ...
      Beat the nose - that's right !!!
  11. 128mgb
    128mgb 22 June 2013 08: 51
    0
    A new horror story for a civilized world. Well, a training manual for some of the creators.
  12. My address
    My address 22 June 2013 09: 01
    0
    And what, in the West, incl. in the US, have ceased to disappear in this way? Nothing that says article.
  13. Slogin
    Slogin 22 June 2013 09: 02
    +1
    Well, now our media will begin to make an elephant out of this article. Like, how bad is in the country - slavery is flourishing. Our bodies work diligently in this area do not worry.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 22 June 2013 20: 53
      +2
      I recommend you enter Bentley, for example, you will immediately feel how conscientiously the authorities will save you from slavery wink
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 22 June 2013 22: 55
        +2
        Quote: cdrt
        I recommend you enter Bentley, for example, you will immediately feel how conscientiously the authorities will save you from slavery wink

        It’s for sure that God forbid anyone to get into such a situation, and then it’s not even funny to remember about the machinations of the State Department.
  14. APASUS
    APASUS 22 June 2013 09: 16
    +2
    A friend won the Green Card and went to see. He worked in a furniture factory with Mexicans.
    Those illegal immigrants worked like slaves for a penny.
    And ours such a report "On Slaves in the USA" is unlikely to be published!
    1. Very old
      Very old 22 June 2013 10: 28
      -1
      Political Correctness? Uncle Sam pills on her. Only our holy watch it, as if that TV_R would not offend
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 22 June 2013 12: 44
        +1
        Quote: Very old
        Political Correctness? Uncle sam

        Polit correctness ?!
        This is when the rebels eat the Syrian army soldiers on camera, and their owners to remind that this barbarism is inconvenient!
  15. lecturer
    lecturer 22 June 2013 09: 22
    +2
    First, I want to thank the author himself for such a true ACKNOWLEDGMENT:
    one can be indignant for a long time about the fact that the Americans are once again not getting into their own business, but the fact that trafficking in persons does take place in Russia cannot be denied.
    .
    And, of course, to thank all OUR "club in the defense industry" FOR such a WORTHY reciprocal movement towards Uncle Sam!
    Well, I would like to remind again and again about the HOLINESS of our people (taken from the explanations in the expression "Holy Russia"!), Which ALWAYS RECOGNIZED, REPENTED of their sins, and also brought HIMSELF IN SACRIFICE !!!
    By the way, guys, today is JUNE 22! The date of one of the RESPONSE to evil and the Great donation of OUR PEOPLE !!!!!!!
    1. Very old
      Very old 22 June 2013 10: 22
      0
      Vasilich, do not sprinkle ashes on your head. Shout, shout - we are not the same (on Taukit, etc.) We cannot scatter our main wealth. Scream for your voice to be heard. Otherwise, our every day will be JUNE 22
  16. Semurg
    Semurg 22 June 2013 09: 29
    +4
    The news in Russia and in our country often contains information on this issue, especially for gastrikas and girls, this phenomenon has blossomed in a violent color and I am tormented by vague suspicions that not without the help or protection of security forces like other problems of drugs, prostitution, gambling, etc.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 22 June 2013 20: 56
      +1
      So it is. At on. And the prostitution (the basis of trafficking in girls) and illegal immigrants covered the security forces! Their fight against it is like rock against drugs or bees against honey
  17. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 22 June 2013 09: 47
    0
    Who are the judges?
  18. mirag2
    mirag2 22 June 2013 09: 48
    0
    Do not expect good from the State Department. Never. If you want the State Department to praise our country, cut boats, dispose of nuclear weapons, then the Americans will make a film in which Brad Pitt and the Russians will save the world together.
    Here is the opinion of military expert Shurygin about Kudrin http://youtu.be/4W9Z9D3LlT4
    And here's a look at the Middle East issue by a sober American http://www.youtu.be/hN7-NNprlCQ
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 22 June 2013 20: 58
      0
      I think the Russian authorities will get praise from the State Department only for news like - Moscow recognizes the independence of the Siberian Republic :-)
      Well, we are enemies, it was, is and will be.
  19. individual
    individual 22 June 2013 09: 51
    0
    The slave trade is a consequence of the capitalist way of doing business.
    The principle of enrich yourself at all costs sets the price of a person in the labor market.
    Trade in human resources has two types of latent, when everyone works for the owner voluntarily-forcibly, people are forced to feed themselves, family and feudal serfdom - by the method of coercion and the dictates of the strong over the weak.
    The US State Department, accusing Russia of the slave trade, discredits itself, since the capitalistic way of life and the organization of business are based on the law commodity-money-commodity.
    The goods are the employee in which the root word is SLAB.
    1. georg737577
      georg737577 22 June 2013 15: 40
      -1
      Uv.individ! I fully support you, I put you a plus!
    2. cdrt
      cdrt 22 June 2013 21: 01
      0
      The word slave is at the heart and the words are worker.
      So under socialism, slavery was steeper - you can remember the passports of peasants ...
      A person is always forced to work for someone, for the state, company owners, etc.
      An exception is probably only an anarchist society where everyone works for himself.
      Recall the classics - the state is a coercive mechanism
  20. orff
    orff 22 June 2013 09: 53
    -2
    note mattresses: formally in the US, slavery was canceled only in February 2013 !!!
    1. orff
      orff 23 June 2013 11: 20
      0
      Mississippi lawmakers officially ratified the 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution prohibiting slavery, 148 years after its adoption in 1865. About this writes the Huffington Post.
      http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2013/02/19/n_2761669.shtml
  21. Lynx
    Lynx 22 June 2013 09: 53
    0
    Yes, yes, countries that have oil are always "out of order."

    Let the jackal first restore order in his burrow before poking his face in foreign lands.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 22 June 2013 21: 02
      0
      Not so - states that are not US allies that have oil are always not all right wink
      Do you have any oil?
      Then we go to you! wink
  22. Hauptam
    Hauptam 22 June 2013 10: 10
    -1
    This is one of the consequences of the defeat of the USSR in 1991. The invaders will not allow us to live freely in a sovereign country, not the slave trade, how else they will find, They are the winners. But this is in our favor, it is possible at their expense to solve the problem of migrant workers.
  23. Very old
    Very old 22 June 2013 10: 11
    0
    "... human trafficking in Russia, unfortunately, is not an empty phrase ..." Yes. And we know who trades in Russians: Georgia and Chechnya, Portugal and Italy, but the devil knows where else IVANA and MARIA are languishing. Vladimir Vladimirovich PUTIN is your direct duty to protect, rescue, not just raise a wave. Remember how Brad Pitt called his president? He is your partner. For us, no. Partners are doing a common cause. Why do you need such partners (like that hockey)? This O ...... and threw a stone, went circles on the water. Really keep silent here too?
  24. avant-garde
    avant-garde 22 June 2013 10: 28
    -2
    In our country, human trafficking takes place only on highways and in saunas, and then on a voluntary basis !! Anyway, they don’t teach eggs to a chicken; first, the Democrats sort things out at home !!!!
  25. Andriasov
    Andriasov 22 June 2013 10: 31
    0
    simultaneously expected provocation and its unexpected orientation ..
  26. Elliot
    Elliot 22 June 2013 12: 12
    0
    It is a pity for the girls, and it is very bad that in our country there are such "hangars" which have not been checked by anyone for years.
    But the Americans, with their ratings, have already gotten out whether they would have done further ratings of the "most popular singers" they are doing well.
  27. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 22 June 2013 13: 02
    -1
    Slavery is a natural state for the USA ...
  28. korvin1976
    korvin1976 22 June 2013 13: 49
    +1
    In most of these cases involving girls, all this is linden, from the category of station tales, behind the train, documents were stolen.
    The bulk of these young ladies, I consciously work in this industry, but as soon as they get under the next raid, to combat such a business, they start a record: they took it away and forced it.
    The fact that theft of people and coercion to work exists is an indisputable fact, but it is necessary to separate the grains from the chaff.
  29. Levinson 1st
    Levinson 1st 22 June 2013 14: 05
    -8
    If people are trafficked in Russia, then I would like to know the price per unit of this product. Maybe I'll buy myself a couple of them and let them work for me instead.
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 22 June 2013 21: 05
      +1
      Go, hire Tajiks, take away passports. Bingo - you are a slave owner wink
    2. walter_rus
      walter_rus 22 June 2013 23: 08
      0
      Quote: Levinson 1st
      If people are trafficked in Russia, then I would like to know the price per unit of this product.
      What's the problem? It is easier than easy. It is impossible to pass in any city of the Moscow region so as not to collide with them. Recently, I put some bought small furniture in the elevator - they immediately appear and intrusively offer their services, they barely pull it out of my hands. And they constantly break the intercom at the entrance - the management company settled in some empty apartment, but they don’t want to order the keys to the intercom at all. And officials pretend that they do not know how to cope with the problem, rather it is simply beneficial for them. So the opinion of the Americans does not bother me much, and I know what is going on with us.
  30. darksoul
    darksoul 22 June 2013 15: 26
    -1
    The United States, a nation of slaves and criminals who trade in itself, is turning the world up with their fucking dollar paper, which is not backed up by anything when they’ll even think of stopping the commodity circulation with that shit ...
  31. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 22 June 2013 16: 43
    +3
    I am very surprised and annoyed by the reaction of the majority on this thread.

    Is there a problem? There is. So why, instead of discussing the existing problem, why do we raise a high according to the type - "but you have blacks hanged"?

    To draw the attention of the world community to our shortcomings and poke our noses into our own shoals is the "sacred duty" of our enemies, and our duty is to correct these shoals, and not for someone else, but for ourselves.
    But instead, instead of forcing the systems of our state to properly perform their functions, we begin to resent that we have bad enemies, that they are telling us what we are unpleasant to hear about.

    Somehow all this, to put it mildly, is inadequate.
  32. gura
    gura 22 June 2013 19: 53
    -7
    From Minsk. I completely agree with Yarosvet. Although, why he is surprised at the nature of the "comms" is not clear. Most of the "note-taking" "hurray-patriots" gathered here, for whom there are only Russians, who are morally beloved. And all the other peoples, especially Europeans and Americans, regularly wallow in the mud for anything - for the Second World War - (they did not help much, as if they had to! The war did not affect the States at all! Stalin, however, sent Hitler congratulations for the destruction of Europe in 39-41. .g.!). For the fact that they do not particularly like modern Russia, and you never know for what! And the "chasers" came up with - "gayropeytsy", "amers", "pinodes" (as your cultural and moral president has elegantly put it), whose wife was 9 years "watchman" (see TV interview). What can we say about his ardent voters. But that's bad luck! Even in a nightmare, I cannot imagine that at least one European or American, not an emigrant (they know what to expect from former compatriots), reads a racist-vulgar husk on this site. It’s to show off to each other, who will send foreigners more abruptly! And the problem is! But it is better to "vtyuhivat" the electorate that the "liberal homosexuals" who sit under every bush from Kaliningrad to Anadyr are to blame for all their troubles! Well, the flag is in your hands! Fight! And the slave trade? This is in Geyrope and in Ping .... tan!
    1. Zlodeey
      Zlodeey 22 June 2013 22: 10
      0
      Dear, if you are so aloof from the general situation on the Russian site, why do you come in and spoil your mood?
    2. poquello
      poquello 22 June 2013 22: 31
      +3
      "I completely agree with Yarosvet"

      From the paradox, I also completely agree with him, but I will not subscribe to any of your words.
    3. EGORKA
      EGORKA 23 June 2013 01: 09
      +1
      You have correctly noted everything in your post, but just as you write here, they are not scribbling from scratch, there is a reason! Better "hurray-patriots" than no one, and better to overlook than to miss! in our case, write) otherwise the world around is so fluffy, but here they have gathered and write and write, offending Europeans and Americans, these lights of democracy carrying it to everyone on the wings of bombers), besides, they do not deny problems, even if they approach them with jingoistic patriotism And do not carry a blizzard that the second world did not affect the United States, they fought in the first, and if there are claims to the United States about this, it is only because the United States is pulling the blanket over itself, trying to to present themselves as almost the sole winner of Nazi Germany, and not because they owed us then. Let me remind you that we were allies! and waited for them to help not only with lend-lease, for which the USSR paid in gold! But with the opening of the second front, they were clearly in no hurry, waiting for who all the same ... so by. As for Stalin, since you are already dividing us, I want to remind you that Stalin was a Georgian, so on account of his congratulations you are not by the address)
  33. I never do it
    I never do it 22 June 2013 22: 11
    +1
    Bravo State Department. This is almost an exact, key question to the vile politics dominating in Russia.
    Love, unfortunately, is not polar with slavery. Otherwise, everything would be too obvious. The entire policy of the State Duma and the top of the Russian Federation is aimed at shoving our consciousness, the peoples of Russia, into the delta between slavery and hatred.
  34. I never do it
    I never do it 22 June 2013 22: 12
    0
    Bravo State Department. This is almost an exact, key question to the vile politics dominating in Russia.
    Love is not polar with slavery. The entire policy of the State Duma and the top of the Russian Federation is aimed at shoving our consciousness, the peoples of Russia, into the delta between slavery and hatred.
  35. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 22 June 2013 22: 19
    0
    After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the United States became very insolent. They crawl into all the cracks and look where they do things not as they indicated. Foreign gentlemen, can you climb into our bedrooms? Look for what we're doing wrong there. If we are doing something wrong, then it’s not for you the eternal enemies of Russia to poke our noses. We'll figure it out ourselves! You have already done "good" to Russia in the early 90s. We still expectorate. And the problem of human trafficking exists all over the world. We need to solve it. Blame our one country for this evil WEST WEST!
  36. Maksimiliano
    Maksimiliano 22 June 2013 22: 58
    0
    It is time to draw up a protocol and other matters on whose orders Tskhinvali was burned, and other cities of the so-called Arab revolution, if there is a criminal, there must be a punishment!
  37. EGORKA
    EGORKA 23 June 2013 00: 29
    0
    Of course, we have such a problem and it really gets less attention than it should! Another thing is moralizing on the part of the USA, who themselves were digging into the cannon, who also draw attention to our problems if they need current (and often need a lot ), and if it were profitable, then they would not be pointed.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 23 June 2013 01: 01
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      Quote: EGORKA
      Of course we have such a problem and it really gets less attention than it should! etc. ...

      Do you think that the ENEMY should behave differently? If so, then this is not even naivety and inadequacy, but worse.

      PS Do you remember the scandal with the Daimler bribes to bureaucrats who provide government purchases? Amers at that time behaved very well - all documents were forwarded, but what's the use? They are still being "translated"!
  38. EGORKA
    EGORKA 23 June 2013 01: 16
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    Quote: Yarosvet
    I am very surprised and annoyed by the reaction of the majority on this thread.

    Is there a problem? There is. So why, instead of discussing the existing problem, why do we raise a high according to the type - "but you have blacks hanged"?

    To draw the attention of the world community to our shortcomings and poke our noses into our own shoals is the "sacred duty" of our enemies, and our duty is to correct these shoals, and not for someone else, but for ourselves.
    But instead, instead of forcing the systems of our state to properly perform their functions, we begin to resent that we have bad enemies, that they are telling us what we are unpleasant to hear about.

    Somehow all this, to put it mildly, is inadequate.


    So the thing is how, when and why they say it! The USA was directly preoccupied with the problems of Russia, what a kind and attentive country, tells us .... there is still a list of Magnitsky, etc. If they were profitable, they would be silent about this and would not bring us anywhere, that’s outrageous who are the judges ?! hence such a reaction, sometimes not constructive, but there is an excuse for it!
  39. EGORKA
    EGORKA 23 June 2013 01: 25
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    Quote: Yarosvet
    Quote: EGORKA
    Of course we have such a problem and it really gets less attention than it should! etc. ...

    Do you think that the ENEMY should behave differently? If so, then this is not even naivety and inadequacy, but worse.

    PS Do you remember the scandal with the Daimler bribes to bureaucrats who provide government purchases? Amers at that time behaved very well - all documents were forwarded, but what's the use? They are still being "translated"!


    You correctly note that we have a lot of problems
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 23 June 2013 01: 49
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      The enemy - he is the ENEMY, he says and does what is exclusively beneficial to him and the most disadvantageous to us, and this is natural - what's the point of spraying the saliva on the monitor?
      Is there a problem? There is?
      Is she being solved? No, although it should!
      Therefore, the real problem is not that the amers blundered, but that the problem that they blundered is not being resolved.
      Are the amers to blame for this? No, those who are obliged to solve this problem, but do not solve it, are to blame.

      Quote: EGORKA
      You correctly note that we have a lot of problems
      We have many problems that have been tritely scored - this is the main problem (as an example, try to find official statistics on the number of homeless people and street children in the Russian Federation: there are no statistics, but there is a phenomenon)
  40. EGORKA
    EGORKA 23 June 2013 02: 16
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    Quote: Yarosvet
    The enemy - he is the ENEMY, he says and does what is exclusively beneficial to him and the most disadvantageous to us, and this is natural - what's the point of spraying the saliva on the monitor?
    Is there a problem? There is?
    Is she being solved? No, although it should!
    Therefore, the real problem is not that the amers blundered, but that the problem that they blundered is not being resolved.
    Are the amers to blame for this? No, those who are obliged to solve this problem, but do not solve it, are to blame.

    Quote: EGORKA
    You correctly note that we have a lot of problems
    We have many problems that have been tritely scored - this is the main problem (as an example, try to find official statistics on the number of homeless people and street children in the Russian Federation: there are no statistics, but there is a phenomenon)


    It seems to me that forums partly exist to splatter the monitor with saliva) it's like swearing or speaking out, plopping into the monitor and feeling better)) Naturally, problems are not solved here and therefore "hurray-patriotism" is quite appropriate here, which many here curse. certainly not here, but it is quite appropriate to designate them here.
    As for the Americans, then: thanks to them, our enemies, pointing to the gaps in our defense)
    The problem of homeless people and street children began to grow after the collapse of the union at a fast pace, we have a lot of such sores, we can only hope that they will get our hands on them and it will not be too late ........
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 23 June 2013 02: 47
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      Quote: EGORKA
      It seems to me that part of the forums exist to splatter the monitor with saliva) it’s like swearing or speaking out, it’s better to spit on the monitor)
      You can certainly use the forum as an office of psychological relief, but what's the point? It’s easier to relieve stress when you have a cat (they say it helps, especially if you give her a kick smile ) The forum is preferable to use as a platform for discussion, for critical verification of the correction and the formation of their own opinions.

      In reality, of course, problems are not being solved here, but to designate them here is quite appropriate.
      It is appropriate, but in the form of a discussion of precisely problems, and not in the form of inventing their fake reasons and translating arrows, thereby justifying themselves.

      As for the Americans, then: thanks to them, our enemies, pointing to the gaps in our defense)
      Rather: thanks for pointing out our jambs - next time we'll be smarter (at least it should be).

      The problem of homeless people and street children began to grow after the collapse of the union at a fast pace, we have a lot of such sores, we can only hope that they will get our hands on them and it will not be too late ........
      Hope?! Oh no! When good is inactive - injustice triumphs, you know: read article 3 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation - this is the cornerstone of everything.
  41. shinobi
    shinobi 23 June 2013 06: 43
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    One of my acquaintances, the boss, says: It doesn’t matter that your subordinate is a good worker and doesn’t mow, if you accidentally meet him, you have to reach him, fuck you. The drive for fuck you is obscure. he has the right to punish him. It has become so habitual for him that in ordinary life he behaves the same. Doesn’t he remind anyone?

    PS: The truth is very surprised when his tries .. they send or hit the body. laughing
  42. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 23 June 2013 09: 27
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    Well, this is already overstepping all boundaries! And who is this clever "uncle" who came to teach us the illiterate. As the proverb says: "There is no reason to blame the mirror if the mug is crooked." in the Middle Ages, who made slaves out of their citizens, with the help of bank loans and "laws", they turn their tongue to reproach us. Yes, we didn’t care what they did there. It's time to put the scoundrels in their place!
  43. chauvinist
    chauvinist 23 June 2013 10: 25
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    As I see it is bitter for the local residents to realize the veracity of the RF trafficking charges. This trade exists, it is diverse, it is trade in organs (thousands disappear without a trace every year), slave power (there are many "slaves" in the Caucasus), prostitution, and so on.