1907-1909: “Great White Fleet” USA

Vintage Naval photos from 1907-1909: “The Great White Fleet”

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[common man]

Sorry, but somehow about nothing.

[Vladimirets]

The great white fleet ... meaning a fleet without blacks?

[sevtrash]

You enter the Great White Fleet into a search engine and you get information. It would be interesting to compare with the campaign of the Rozhdestvensky squadron.

[combat192]

The surname of the admiral was indicated incorrectly.
Rozhdestvensky Zinovy ​​Petrovich

[cocktails46]

The Great White Fleet (English Great White Fleet) - a popular name for the US naval group, circumnavigating the world from December 16, 1907 to February 22, 1909. The group consisted of four squadrons, each of which included an armadillo and escort ships. The voyage was made by order of US President Theodore Roosevelt and was intended to demonstrate the naval power of the United States - in particular, they have a fleet of the high seas. (Wikipedia)

[Pamir210]

Nice post. Interesting photos.

[pinecone]

Quote: Vladimirets

The great white fleet ... meaning a fleet without blacks?

All the ships that went around the world were painted white, as was then customary in the US Navy in peacetime.

[Bosk]

I remember in childhood I loved to draw boats and so that the boat looked more powerful I piled gun towers at each other ... it turns out I was in my youth at the level of adult American ship designers ... and now I would seem to be in difficulty, on the one hand was at the level of adult overseas uncles, well, on the other hand ... this is not the best (as time has shown) decision to raise firepower ... here.

[Kars]

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[svp67]

Quote: Kars

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Join.
The photos perfectly show the history of the emergence of a new superpower - these "white" squadrons were its harbingers ...

[The sword]

Thank you, great selection. Such a steampunk)

[shush007]

for those times, new items and cool form

[Sour]

The Americans then painted all their warships white (apparently, hence the name "white fleet"). The cruiser "Varyag" and the battleship "Retvizan" built in the USA for Russia were also white, and differed from other ships of the Russian fleet, which were then painted black.

[mithridate]

test photos

[tlauicol]

That should be a flag demonstration!

[Venguard]

but it’s beautiful, the ships are white, so formidable, military, and the color as that of yachts, this is something romantic)

[kind]

Quote: sevtrash

It would be interesting to compare with the campaign of the Rozhdestvensky squadron.

Correct not Rogдnatural, and Christmas.

[common man]

I could not find which ships were part of the "Great White Fleet". Vicki first writes that "The group consisted of four squadrons, each of which included a battleship and escort ships.", And then- "At the end of his reign, President Roosevelt sent 16 battleships Atlantic fleet in a circumnavigation ". Not a docking. Googled, did not find anything concrete. Tell me who knows. Composition, types of ships. Given the appearance of the Dreadnought, the real power of the squadron seems doubtful.

[tlauicol]

4 squadrons of four battleships (battleship) in each, not including destroyers and support vessels. google in english great white fleet

[Sour]

Man, here is a link for you.
http://www.battleships.spb.ru/0593/amer_bron.html
Other information. Unfortunately, I don’t have it.
About the "battleships". It was in Russia that the concepts of "battleship" and "battleship" were divided. But this was not the case everywhere. Among the Anglo-Saxons, both were called by the same term - "battleship". In France, both were called "cuirasse". In Germany, battleships were called "der Schlachtschiff", and battleships "der Panzerschiff"

[Bosk]

December 10, 1907 in the United States began an unprecedented journey of 16 snow-white armadillos with a crew of more than 14 thousand people; his first step was the transition to San Francisco around South America. For two years, American battleships crossed the Pacific, Indian and Atlantic oceans.

The participants of the circumnavigation remained in the history under the name of the “Great White Fleet”. In the campaign, inspired by the transition of the squadron of Rozhestvensky to Tsushima, exercises were held several times. In the event of a clash with Japan, the Americans could find themselves in the same position as Russia (the fleet was based on the Atlantic coast, tens of thousands of miles from the “acquired” Philippines), so the verification of their forces did not seem unnecessary to them.

[Pamir210]

Quote: man in the street

Given the appearance of the Dreadnought, the real power of the squadron seems dubious.

It’s strange why.
The Russian Black Sea Fleet, even without a dreadnought, was not particularly afraid of Goeben.
With the advent of "Empresses" even more so.

[common man]

The Russian Black Sea Fleet included 5 quite modern battleships, which is 20 305 mm guns, against one battle cruiser (not a battleship) with 10 280 mm guns. Is there a place for fear? Although in truth, at first they were feared. And the commissioning of the Empresses with 12 305 mm on each in general ... NO COMMENTS.

Quote: Sour

The Dreadnought was a raw enough ship

I did not mean a specific ship, but a class of ships. And if the squadron of battleships could do something with one battleship, then the squadron of battleships against the squadron of battleships had no chance.

Quote: Sour

Man, here is a link for you.

Thank you so much for the tip. This site is bookmarked, but ...

[Sour]

Quote: man in the street

Given the appearance of the Dreadnought, the real power of the squadron seems dubious.

The Dreadnought was a fairly raw ship. He handled poorly, especially at low speed. Therefore, without the help of tugs, he practically could not go to sea and return to the harbor. The weak caliber of the auxiliary artillery made defense against destroyers problematic. The placement of these 76mm guns was also unfortunate. The propulsion system was revolutionary for those times, but it was also quite "raw", which made the ship less maneuverable in battle. The location of the main caliber turrets was also not ideal. When shooting straight ahead, one tower interfered with the other. And when firing at the traverse one of the towers was always unused.

[Sour]

Quote: man in the street

I did not mean a specific ship, but a class of ships

Well, this class appeared in the USA rather quickly. Until 1907, the Dreadnought was the only representative of its class. Only in 1907 were the following ships of this class launched. A year later, such ships appeared in the United States. Their first battleship, South Caroline, surpassed the Dreadnought in a number of ways. In fact, the Germans also acquired battleships in 1908 by launching the Nassau. In short, Britain's monopoly on battleships did not last long. The Japanese were a little behind, having launched their Kavachi only in 1910. And the Sevastopol appeared in 1911.

[common man]

Well, I don’t argue, for this is the truth.
In general, the American fleet in the First World War proved to be very sluggish, or rather in no way. Therefore, it is possible to talk about the states as a Great Sea Power only from 42-44 years.
(This is my personal opinion, I do not impose it on anyone.)

[jjj]

Quote: Sour

and differed from other ships of the Russian fleet, which were then painted black.

We paint with ball paint. It can be both dark and light. Just recently "Peter the Great" was very dark. Experience suggests that traditional ball colors fade quickly in the sun. Therefore, they paint darker so that it lasts longer

[jjj]

I noticed that the Yankees on trousers of a white robe - fly with codpiece. And the deck is torn with brushes and rubber scrapers.