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"The war in Syria could spread to Russia and Ukraine ..."

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"The war in Syria could spread to Russia and Ukraine ..."



A month ago, the head of the All-Ukrainian Union of Homeless Officers, a veteran intelligence officer, Colonel Sergey Razumovsky, took the initiative to form a volunteer Russian-Ukrainian expeditionary corps and to assist the Syrian Arab Republic president Bashar Asad in restoring constitutional order.

“Ukraine does not need officers or troops! The situation in which the veterans of the armed forces are is no longer tolerable, so we have the right to offer our blood and skills to another country. In exchange, we ask the Syrian government a little: to give us citizenship, to provide insurance to our families and help us with investments in housing construction where each of us decides to live after the war ... "

Sergei Razumovsky told us about his current situation with the formation of the expeditionary corps and his vision of the situation in Syria.


- What is the response of the citizens of Ukraine and Russia (first of all, reserve officers) to your call to take part in the Syrian war?

- Response? In Ukraine, we are ready to support a lot of officers and soldiers, both in stock and in service. Similarly in Russia. I think that we will be able to demonstrate this in the near future, having gathered for the first field gatherings.
Another thing is that we have an order of magnitude more youth appeals - guys from 19 to 30 years. The guys who do not see any other prospects for their future. We really have a lot of them - a few thousand - both from Russia and from Ukraine. And this is a big problem. In order to lead them anywhere, they need to be prepared. We are working hard on this problem now, I think we have no other way out as the creation of training camps.

- What is the reaction to your initiative of the Foreign Ministry of the Russian Federation, Ukraine and the government of Bashar Assad?

- The reaction is predictable. Ukraine is busy with another problem, how to join the European Union and the Customs Union at the same time, without ceasing to divide everything that remains from the USSR, and not seeing the main threat - a firmly enforced policy on the breakdown of civil peace and stability, which is quite possible call a special operation. The Russian Federation takes a wait-and-see position, which is understandable - indeed, how many over the years have 20 Ukraine put forward initiatives? We can not even think of this.
As for Assad ... The Syrian Ambassador to Ukraine, in an interview with Inter TV channel, said that, most likely, the president would refuse. But there was no refusal. Why? Yes, because the war allies are not scattered. Who knows how strong his position will be tomorrow. The fact that the war will not end soon is obvious.

- Are you ready to engage in the creation of a volunteer corps and if the reaction of the Syrian authorities does not follow? What then will be the mechanism for sending volunteers?

- We are ready for anything. A few days ago, we turned to the United Nations with the idea of ​​creating a UN peacekeeping force from volunteers, not from army contingents of any powers. This idea has a future, because the current structure of the world, and especially what is called international law, has completely exhausted itself.
And judging by the threats to our address that appear on various extremist websites, we may be necessary and not reaching Syria. You probably know that 6 June in Simferopol at the Hizbut at Tahir rally adopted a policy of restoring the Arab caliphate and, by the way, also recruited volunteers to Syria. In addition, the other day a statement was made by the mufti of Russia about the same thing that we are talking about all the time - the war in Syria can spread to Russia, Ukraine and the Caucasus ...

- How, from your point of view, has the tactics of warfare changed by militants lately, and what do you think are the main mistakes of the Syrian command in suppressing the terrorist activities of the militants?

Their tactics have changed significantly since the times of the war in Afghanistan and Iraq. If earlier, strictly speaking, the war was waged by volunteer detachments, hastily prepared by some sort of instructors, today all this extras in turbans and with machine guns are just a television picture. The real war is fought by professionally trained groups, the very same special forces of Great Britain, for example, etc. This tactic is successful. This tactic practically knows no defeat, starting with the partisans of the Great Patriotic War. The founder of the theory of such actions may well be called the White Emigrant Mesner with his famous book "Mutual War".
And the question of the notorious money has also changed. And this is the main issue of the opposing system. If in the early nineties the tactics of bribes worked out - the top of the USSR, the same Yugoslavia, was bought, then in Iraq they faced the fact that the money devoted to the new Iraqi collaborators immediately fell into the hands of their relatives and again pressed the roadblocks, causing a new wave financing. When money began to count on sea containers, zakazniki thought. Already in Afghanistan, there was an attempt to organize cost accounting - the Afghans were allowed to produce the drug, and the whole operation was funded from its sale, but this also did not save ...
Perhaps, the first operation of a new type was an operation in Libya, which showed samples of the “combat television picture”, as well as the transition to strictly speaking instability, in which the seizure and retention of any territories, the content of controlled governments is not the goal. Only objects of interest are held — for example, oil fields, transportation routes and ports. The rest of the territory unleashes a war of all against all. And the more and longer it lasts, the more profitable the owners of the militants. This, in my opinion, is not well understood in the leadership of Syria.
They are destined to chase mobile groups for a very long time, which you can recruit and throw in hundreds. And to fight them with traditional methods - you have to spend an infinite number of resources, drive army equipment, waste ammunition, etc. This is almost the same as trying to fight back in the taiga from a flock of mosquitoes. No one to beat, fists are useless. In this regard, the supply of any C-300 or something else like that is useless. Against scattered guerrilla groups is not a means.
Syria will not have enough resources for such a war. The same, in principle, applies to Ukraine. And if we talk about the main enemy of our countries, then he simply issues resources using ink and paper ...

- Experts for the most part believe that the delivery of C-300 complexes by Russia to the Assad government has a purely psychological significance and, in the event of a full-scale invasion of Syria from the outside, these complexes, without proper support, will be useless ...

- I honestly doubt that such complexes are or will be delivered. No serious conflict with West, the Russian ruling government will not go. For all known reasons, which are absolutely clear. By themselves, these are wonderful complexes. Russia in this sense is an absolutely notorious country. But! Is the USSR was armed not the most modern weapons? And was he defeated by arms? I do not think that the role in the Syrian war will be high aviation. In addition, if an aerospace strike is decided to strike, it will be delivered, and several S-300 installations will not reflect it. The most effective remedy for such attacks, an asymmetric response. But these are other technologies that we will not talk about here.

- Are there many mercenaries fighting in Syria, immigrants from the CIS, primarily from the Russian Federation and Ukraine?

“You see, the modern war has long since moved away from the concepts of many or few. The epoch of heroic wars with the mass death of servicemen is a thing of the past. Today it is an emphasis on modern, often robotic technology and on the actions of special forces. The Americans took into account the experience of the Soviet troops in Afghanistan. They included only special forces.
Hence, if it is known that, for example, from 200 people are fighting from Russia in Syria on the side of the militants, how can one assess this much or little without knowing the level of their training? For example, I can say that special forces units of such a number can turn any country into hell. How many Ukrainian citizens are there? Surely no less, it is difficult to follow. Mostly people are hired by private military companies to work in the same Afghanistan. But then they can be transferred anywhere ...

- How are the unrest in Turkey related to what is happening in Syria? And how will the situation in the region change in the event of the overthrow of the Erdogan government?

- I believe that they are directly related. Edorgan is somewhat lost. On the one hand, Turkey is a member of NATO, a springboard so to speak. On the other hand, it tacitly supports all Muslim movements, among which there are many enemies of NATO. Perhaps my theory of conspiracy is dominant, but the recent detention of terrorists with chemical weapons is the breakdown of a scandal operation that has been planned for a long time. He was not forgiven.
Overthrow is not a simple question and I do not think that everything will be so simple. Most likely, the zone of instability will smoothly reach the borders of the former USSR. And then everything will depend on us. By the way. something like the message about the annexation of a part of the territory of Tajikistan by China was taken for granted. And nothing happened and happened ... So a start has been made. I think that the rebellion, which like a fire in the forest wind stories drives in our direction - it will not stop at the borders. There is plenty of fuel in the Caucasus, in the Russian Federation, and in Ukraine: Crimea, Transnistria, and Transcarpathia. The only question is when?
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  1. avant-garde
    avant-garde 21 June 2013 08: 53
    +9
    Guys who do not see any other prospect of their further fate.
    ____________
    It feels like this officer doesn’t just want to help, but cut down a bea bob, in each interview he talks about his difficult fate and the fate of all the unemployed in Ukraine!
    1. domokl
      domokl 21 June 2013 09: 03
      -1
      Quote: avant-garde
      this officer doesn’t just want to help, but cut down a boble

      He won’t cut the dough .. Just the name of PR ... .. he’d got out on the TV .. well-known ...
      1. avant-garde
        avant-garde 21 June 2013 09: 07
        +1
        Quote: domokl
        Just a name for PR ..

        So they can pull the bazaar and the PR can end sadly for him, so you need to be aware of and be really prepared, roughly speaking, to begin real combat tomorrow. And as the saying goes, wagging do not toss the bags !!!
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 21 June 2013 09: 11
        10
        Head of the All-Ukrainian Union of Homeless Officers


        I quietly goof off, homeless damn .....
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 21 June 2013 10: 12
          +4
          Quote: Vadivak
          Head of the All-Ukrainian Union of Homeless Officers


          Better Homeless Head of the All-Ukrainian Union of Unnecessary Officers? It is interesting from what sources this organization is financed. Probably in Russia in the 90s, through the Dutch company, the CIA funded a professional retraining program for officers who were transferred to the reserve.
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 21 June 2013 15: 27
            0
            Quote: Ascetic
            Better Homeless Head of the All-Ukrainian Union of Unnecessary Officers

            Homeless, Homeless ....
            "The Master and Margarita", there was also Homeless.
            Who is the role of Woland?
          2. kavkasos stratotis
            kavkasos stratotis 20 November 2013 17: 53
            0
            Here is a relatively fresh info on the topic of Russian volunteers in Syria: http://navoine.ru/posledniy-boi-slavyanskogo-korpusa.html
        2. Tersky
          Tersky 21 June 2013 10: 36
          +1
          Quote: Vadivak
          homeless damn .....

          Vadim hi ! There is also a more radical definition of a scourge ... a bum. But "homeless" sounds more pathetic laughing
          1. alexng
            alexng 21 June 2013 11: 12
            0
            And the homeless must be trapped so that they do not spread rabies in the vicinity. Interestingly, and from whose hands this "union" is fed?
            1. bmussoli77
              21 June 2013 14: 09
              0
              In Ukraine, 72 has thousands of homeless reserve officers. Catch them, kill them. Guardian of the cheating of the nation ....
          2. bmussoli77
            21 June 2013 14: 08
            +4
            Why are you doing this? .. People served the Motherland, waited for the service of elementary living conditions .... Their Motherland, like many others, abandoned them. they are no longer boys, getting a decent job with us, a mortgage is hardly realistic. What should they do. "Homeless" ... Not ashamed? OK. Let them rise and kill the rulers who threw them. Just keep in mind, under the distribution and you will get.
            1. Che
              Che 21 June 2013 20: 22
              0
              God willing can and will be good. It’s good if he can get anything out of this. Maybe PMCs?
        3. Vovka levka
          Vovka levka 21 June 2013 15: 35
          0
          Quote: Vadivak

          I quietly goof off, homeless damn .....

          No clown, probably from the former political leaders.
      3. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 22 June 2013 17: 44
        -1
        Quote: domokl
        Quote: avant-garde
        this officer doesn’t just want to help, but cut down a boble

        He won’t cut the dough .. Just the name of PR ... .. he’d got out on the TV .. well-known ...


        Don’t put your name in your pocket. Well, he promotes and then what? He initially had a shitty promise - respectively, and he will earn it as well.

        The proposal to create a volunteer corps begins with the word "give" a businessman does not start business like that, a real military man will not ask. So this is his proposal a banal provocation. It is a pity for those who fell for, they will fly in nizachto.

        And the fact that a terrorist war can spread to Ukraine is even good. The country will quickly be torn to mo.s.kaley, galitsaev and Crimean Tatars. Ms. Kalei will be attached to us, and the rest will turn into a new Romania and a new Turkey, respectively. It will be for the better - they will give us a reason to rearm along the European border.

        PS: Dear site administration, please be so kind as to finish censoring robots, start already working with your eyes and head.
    2. mark1
      mark1 21 June 2013 09: 06
      +6
      The desire to find oneself and be useful to one's country is commendable. In fact, it is proposed to create a kind of "semi-private" army with the help of which our country could solve problems in remote conflict zones without officially interfering. You have to pay for this.
      By the way, amers, something similar already exists.
    3. cartridge
      cartridge 21 June 2013 09: 15
      +9
      Only objects of interest are held - for example, oil fields, transportation routes and ports.


      I tried to introduce this phrase in relation to Russia.
      For us, such a scheme will not work.
      Just think how many troops, arms and military equipment and resources does a potential aggressor need to keep under control oil fields of Siberia, the Urals and the Volga region, as well as control the delivery routes of this oil to oil terminals in the Leningrad Region, Novorossiysk and the coastal Kozmino?
      And if you try to extend this control to pipelines? And how to control these pipes in the territories of the same Belarus or Ukraine?
      Yes, for this it is necessary to conquer and recapture the whole of Russia, which is impossible neither for the United States separately, and even if their NATO allies are thrown off, then this is also impossible.
      Given the Russian character and our eternal discontent with any power the potential aggressor will fail.
      The size of the spaces and our marvelous Russian climate will contribute to the collapse of all their attempts to get hold of our resources.
      Even simple discovery by the authorities or arbitrary uncontrolled looting of arsenals and mass arming of the people with conventional small arms will make impossible any attempt even of a short-term occupation of our country.
      We have only machines in warehouses of more than 17 million pieces!
      And no black-eyed assistants from Muslim countries will help the Americans save the situation. On our open spaces they will be dissolved like tea in sugar and inevitably destroyed by the Russian population hostile to them.
      Let us recall the club of the popular war of 1812. about which Tolstoy wrote!
      Now this club is awakening the nails of all newcomers at any opportunity, tens, or even hundreds of times faster and more effective than 200 years ago!
      1. Mairos
        Mairos 21 June 2013 10: 01
        +3
        but just nefig let them into the territory, and that’s not necessary to partisan. This is especially true with the Chinese, God forbid, but there will only have to be cut for destruction - they do not need our population, in general.
      2. Ascetic
        Ascetic 21 June 2013 10: 16
        +5
        Quote: cartridge
        The size of the spaces and our marvelous Russian climate will contribute to the collapse of all their attempts to get hold of our resources.


        Here you are wrong. Comrades from the Promised Land will prove to you that the climate in Israel is so diverse and harsh that Russia was not near. In Russia there are only 8 such zones, and in Greater Israel, one more lol
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 21 June 2013 10: 28
          +2
          That's for sure. Evidence in an article about Merkava. laughing
        2. cartridge
          cartridge 21 June 2013 10: 30
          +5
          wink
          Well, Duc is not in vain the turn for Israeli icebreakers is scheduled for 15 years ahead! laughing

          And the famous Israeli boots ... Oooh! lol
        3. baltika-18
          baltika-18 21 June 2013 15: 35
          +1
          Quote: Ascetic
          Here you are wrong. Comrades from the Promised Land will prove to you that the climate in Israel is so diverse and harsh that Russia was not near. In Russia there are only 8 such zones, and in Greater Israel, one more

          Representatives of the promised land lie, and brazenly. Even officially there are only six of them. And the difference between some of them is so small that it is quite possible to talk about two, three climatic zones.
    4. Ustian
      Ustian 21 June 2013 09: 51
      +1
      Quote: avant-garde
      not just wants to help, but cut down a bobla

      Maybe something like that? -It’s not just chopping down a bean, but wants to help?
      1. experienced
        experienced 21 June 2013 10: 24
        0
        Assad has already said that he can handle it himself. So the organization can apply to Mali with a similar request (citizenship and home) or somewhere else. Only hardly anyone other than Somali pirates will be interested. laughing
        1. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 21 June 2013 12: 24
          +3
          Why such cynicism? People want to help fight the infection that can come to our house, in Russia. I look here all such clever people, pull out of context, think out, give out far-fetched own conclusions for truth. As if the Israelis are commenting, not the citizens of Russia. This war concerns all of us, I remind everyone who forgot. And if there are people willing to fight this infection and defend Russia in Syria - you can only say thanks to them for that!
    5. bmussoli77
      21 June 2013 14: 18
      +2
      This is because the situation in Ukraine is really worse than ever. And about "cut down the dough" - so if to be honest (people need to somehow earn money for housing!) - in exchange for their (not yours!) Blood, so why not? And the main thing is to prepare a reserve for future wars already on our territories, and, alas, they are inevitable. "Cut down the dough" is an argument, hmm ...
  2. Dart weyder
    Dart weyder 21 June 2013 08: 57
    0
    all that has been said is not excluded, and it may well come true on one scale or another, only I think this will also touch upon "tolerant" Europe - they often clash with Muslims there, and the nation is no longer able to oppose something in response - intimidated by the laws and sense of "tolerance", judging by England - and other countries - where the flags are changing and the laws are changing to the "come in large numbers" to the detriment of the indigenous population, and 3,14 races and other LGBT people are unlikely to fade, they are brave under police protection - but those guys won't stand on ceremony with them - maybe Europe is good for it! ???))) laughing
    1. Airman
      Airman 21 June 2013 09: 26
      +2
      Quote: Dart Weyder
      all that has been said is not excluded, and it may well come true on one scale or another, only I think this will also touch upon "tolerant" Europe - they often clash with Muslims there, and the nation is no longer able to oppose something in response - intimidated by the laws and sense of "tolerance", judging by England - and other countries - where the flags are changing and the laws are changing to the "come in large numbers" to the detriment of the indigenous population, and 3,14 races and other LGBT people are unlikely to fade, they are brave under police protection - but those guys won't stand on ceremony with them - maybe Europe is good for it! ???))) laughing


      The world is heading towards chaos. In Germany, Turkish languages ​​are introduced in schools, and Turkization of Germans began. They come to Europe (another monastery) with their own charter. Sorry for the old Geyropu.
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 21 June 2013 10: 47
        +8
        Quote: Povshnik
        In Germany, Turkish languages ​​are introduced in schools, and Turkization of Germans began. They come to Europe (another monastery) with their own charter. Sorry for the old Geyropu.


        Scientists from the University of Munich conducted a study of migration from Islamic countries to Germany and came to the conclusion that “migrants are a time bomb,” Newsru.com reports. The country has 3 million people from Turkey, of whom 2,5 million have already received German citizenship. Very few Turks (about 20%) have a permanent job. The rest live on benefits. According to the law, every adult German citizen who has lost his job or has not found it is entitled to benefit in the amount of 482 euros. And if an unemployed person has children under 18 years old, then for each child he receives a monthly fee of another 200 euros. Compulsory payments are also reimbursed, which include rental housing, utilities, medical insurance and the use of public transport.
        Example: 46-year-old Turk Kamal and his 42-year-old wife Shadiya, who participated in the survey, have 10 minor children. They live on benefits from the state. Kamal never worked or even graduated from high school. At the same time, the total family income is 3000 euros plus free housing, medical care and the use of transport. At the same time, German Dieter, who lives next door to Kamal, works 8 hours a day for a postal company and earns no more than 800 euros a month. After deducting all current expenses and paying for the apartment, he has about 400 euros left ... I wonder how long this burgher has enough tolerance?
        Details here
  3. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 21 June 2013 08: 59
    +7
    “Ukraine does not need officers or troops! The situation in which the veterans of the armed forces are is no longer tolerable, so we have the right to offer our blood and skills to another country. In exchange, we ask the Syrian government a little: to give us citizenship, to provide insurance to our families and help us with investments in housing construction where each of us decides to live after the war ... "

    I understand the problems of these officers, but, frankly, this position does not fit in with the officers, the concept of the homeland, or the concept of duty. The provision of citizenship, money and housing is pure mercenary, no matter how dramatic it sounds.
    1. bmussoli77
      21 June 2013 14: 21
      +1
      So what to do?
    2. 89501358976
      89501358976 21 June 2013 17: 30
      +2
      I WOULD LIKE TO BE A MERCHANT ALREADY HAVE BEEN !!! Either PROMING. OR SHOWING FOR THE HOMELAND HURTS
    3. Che
      Che 21 June 2013 20: 28
      0
      They see that the Motherland does not need it, maybe another country will become the Motherland. After all, France became the homeland for white emigrants.
  4. domokl
    domokl 21 June 2013 09: 01
    +5
    It is strange that the colonel of the Special Forces, even Ukraine (the roots are still Soviet), doesn’t calculate the situation so much. Which corps? From whom? The retirees, even if well trained, are still retirees. I’m 20 years ago and I’m now, as they say , two big differences. Yes, I know what it means to go to the caravan, I know what the jungle is, but I already physically cannot be a real military unit. Like most of us.
    There are captains who left the army at the end of the contract. Well, young animals, whose tongue works more than their heads and hands ... Both of them will not be able to intimidate real enemy groups ... another cannon fodder, no more Togo.
    1. mark1
      mark1 21 June 2013 09: 25
      +1
      Quote: domokl
      Retirees, even if they are well trained, are still retirees. I’m two years old now and I, as they say, are two big differences. Yes, I know what it means to go to the caravan, I know what the jungle is, but I can’t physically be a real fighting unit. Like most of us.

      But. your experience and your knowledge, invaluable, have remained. To hand over to the youth team, to train them, to plan operations is your niche. (Well, let's say your conditionally)
    2. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 21 June 2013 10: 16
      +3
      A quarter of a century ago, the last SA officer left Afghanistan (the border guards remained until 1991). The youngest officer with half a year's combat experience, today he is already in the area of ​​fifty years. A semi-combat unit in case of hostilities in the people's militia. They have plenty of militias of their own, from a young schoolboy to a gray-haired one. Eliminated. Special Forces? Drops out automatically. Loyal "friends" next to the special forces soldiers. Colitis, gastritis, radiculitis, arrhythmia, hypertension and other fashionable age-related diseases of our rapid time. So, the colonel's project is an empty shaking of air for his own PR exclusively for selfish purposes. In addition, all of his recruiting points are so conspicuous that the colonel does not know their addresses and has no connection, due to their actual absence.
      So, it’s not Erdagan who got lost, but the colonel is misleading. By the way, intelligence is a relative concept. You can shift the pieces of paper on the table in the office all the way down to the capital.
      Friends! Do not succumb to the provocation of the recruiter into mercenaries. Remember! A mercenary is illegal. They are sold for personal gain. And the colonels from this have their own percentage for their selfish interests.
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 21 June 2013 10: 32
        +2
        There is one comment on your post. In Yugoslavia, volunteers were far from a young age, and in Abkhazia too. so that the person who monitors your health and after 40 all of the above listed diseases do not threaten you. and volunteers gathered in Yugoslavia, too, not in organized columns with banners and banners, but in a quiet glanders whoever.
        1. Captain Vrungel
          Captain Vrungel 21 June 2013 10: 48
          +3
          And they come to the foreign legion personally and not publicly. Do not confuse patriotism with practicality. The colonel set the conditions on which he agreed to go, mind you, not for an idea, but for material benefits. And if the "oppositionists" offer more favorable conditions. Villa on the seaside, fees with many zeros, I'm sure he will go to "defend" democracy from the usurper and tyrant Erdogan. People of this type are not called patriots, but crooks. You are right, patriots do not advertise and do not like publicity. The crooks are the opposite. As much noise as possible. As well as our elite. For example, "Alena Vodonaeva is lucky. Husband, Lover, and yesterday they were raped at the" get-together ".
          1. bmussoli77
            21 June 2013 14: 26
            0
            In this case, the colonel is not to blame for being tight with material goods. And you have to combine them with the idea.
        2. bmussoli77
          21 June 2013 14: 25
          0
          Exactly, and only so. I know those who were in Abkhazia and Yugoslavia. Many of them were then in their late forties. And they are now ready for battle. The rest is blablabla.
    3. knn54
      knn54 21 June 2013 13: 13
      0
      Aleksanlr.A security of strategic facilities, mine clearing / destruction of unexploded ordnance, rear supply of troops, fire / anti-chemical protection, personnel training, information warfare, electronic warfare, armed escort of convoys, etc.
      In fact, the creation of PMCs is proposed, in which the range of tasks is very wide.
    4. bmussoli77
      21 June 2013 14: 22
      0
      If you talk like that, you need to shoot yourself right away.))) In the best case, soar your ass in the office and tryndet on the forums.
  5. svskor80
    svskor80 21 June 2013 09: 06
    +2
    Such a thing (sending volunteers) could be carried out without too much fuss. But here it seems the other way around, the more noise the better. In general, it causes vague fears of personal PR and financial gain. And at the government level, no one will ever support such initiatives, this is essentially an organization of illegal armed groups.
    1. bmussoli77
      21 June 2013 14: 27
      +1
      Not a PR. Not making a profit. Politics. Very big policy. And the colonel is one of the horns. But only.
  6. pensioner
    pensioner 21 June 2013 09: 12
    +4
    Some kind of flawed logic: "Let's go to fight because we feel bad!" Serious things are not done that way. And the hype in them is unacceptable. Saka, there - he made some noise in Afghanistan ...
  7. ale-x
    ale-x 21 June 2013 09: 12
    -9
    Oh yeah, on x! R .... Enough .. how much can you think about all this? Summer is in the yard, and we? Rejoice at life, the sun, children! What kind of talk about gays, goys, striped mattresses, extreme hobbits? Let adult and smart guys in high-ceilinged rooms think about them.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 June 2013 09: 48
      +1
      Quote: ale-x
      .. Enough .. how much can you think about all this? Summer is in the yard, and we? Rejoice at life, the sun, children

      Yes, we are so happy, only at 41 it wasn’t joyful, no matter how it happened
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  9. shamil
    shamil 21 June 2013 09: 17
    0
    he wants to PR, got ready to go and fight. on the side of the militants somehow make their way. here and make your way with like-minded people, come to Assad and get weapons. When the geyropa learns about this, that a small army of volunteers from Ukraine is fighting on the side of Assad, then
    present to Ukraine, which is looking towards the west with its mouth open and Ukraine will declare this army illegal.
    18 year old young children drags with them. Raise agriculture !!!
  10. Wedmak
    Wedmak 21 June 2013 09: 20
    +1
    Volunteer Peacekeeping Corps? And to whom will he submit? Myself? How will he make decisions on the introduction of his troops anywhere? Who will be responsible for the actions of the corps? What money will it exist for? Who will arm him and with what?

    Guys, it all smells really dumb. This expeditionary can easily turn into a gang formation. Easy and laid back! And being armed, it can be a very dangerous and unpredictable force.
    1. mark1
      mark1 21 June 2013 09: 53
      +1
      Any PSC is a potentially unpredictable military force. Of course, there must be control by the state (so to speak, the only hiring party, plus "sub tenants".)
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 21 June 2013 10: 07
        +1
        Eh not ... Chop is a ChOP, an organization for the protection of small territories. and in service they have a maximum of machine guns. In addition, the private security company is controlled by both the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the state.
        And then offensive actions are supposed, and even reinforced by armored vehicles, heavy weapons, etc. The only way to do this is similar to the French foreign legion, only with our specifics and the most severe selection of candidates!
        1. mark1
          mark1 21 June 2013 10: 17
          +1
          I agree with you, I agree - all this "company" must be tightly controlled, for this you can come up with a lot of options - these are all the details. But the idea itself is not bad ?!
          The state, remaining, as if not at work, solves its problems in conflict zones.
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 21 June 2013 10: 21
            +1
            But the idea itself is not bad ?!

            The idea itself is interesting, but a state should create such a structure, not private individuals. And then how will this structure differ from a special army unit?
            The state, remaining, as if not at work, solves its problems in conflict zones.

            But this is a bad idea.
            1. mark1
              mark1 21 June 2013 10: 46
              0
              Quote: Wedmak
              The idea itself is interesting, but a state should create such a structure, not private individuals. And then how will this structure differ from a special army unit?

              And this will be the special forces - something from relatives of the GRU special forces, but deeply conspired (you won’t understand where your legs grow from) and an officially private enterprise.
              Quote: Wedmak
              But this is a bad idea.

              Many states (including ours) often defend their interests in foreign countries being "as if out of business"
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 21 June 2013 11: 12
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                something from relatives of the GRU special forces, but deeply conspired (you won’t understand where your legs grow from) and is an officially private enterprise.

                So the GRU special forces do not shine anywhere. Only through the Nth number of years (or even decades) fragmentary information emerges. So, get another unit? Yes, even with the problem of conspiracy?

                Many states (including ours) often defend their interests in foreign countries being "as if out of business"

                It is true that the "business" is just the same intelligence, counterintelligence and God knows what secret offices. And they recruit people from the street.
                So why do we need one more, now voluntary? The same selection, the same training, only volunteers? So in the acting are not required to serve.
                1. mark1
                  mark1 21 June 2013 11: 24
                  -1
                  The special forces of the GRU do not shine, but al-Qaeda is shining, and the tasks are solved similar. And it is not necessary to say that she ended badly - they changed the "commander" and continued the work for the glory of the USA.
                  1. Wedmak
                    Wedmak 21 June 2013 11: 27
                    0
                    The GRU special forces are not lit and al-Qaeda is lit, and similar tasks are being solved.

                    Uh ... what? Figase, you brought a comparison ... What is the side of the state power structure and the tasks of the terrorists are similar?
                    1. ale-x
                      ale-x 21 June 2013 11: 34
                      +1
                      I think that meant tactics and methods for solving problems on enemy territory.
                      1. Wedmak
                        Wedmak 21 June 2013 11: 43
                        0
                        I think that meant tactics and methods for solving problems on enemy territory.

                        Something I did not hear about suicide bombers in the ranks of GRU officers. And about the bombings filled with balls, nuts and bolts.
                        In general, people generally blurted out utter nonsense.
                      2. mark1
                        mark1 21 June 2013 12: 09
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                        Quote: Wedmak
                        In general, people generally blurted out utter nonsense.

                        Dear, you at least delve into the essence of my answers. I did not say that this should be a division of the GRU, I did not say that the organization should engage in terrorist activities, like al-Qaeda (God forbid). But, officially not a state organization, it is more free to choose methods and methods of conducting armed struggle without putting the customer in an uncomfortable position, and the customer, in turn, must control these actions. so as not to cross the line.
  • shamil
    shamil 21 June 2013 09: 22
    -5
    Ukrainian foreign legion-laughter!
  • sashka
    sashka 21 June 2013 09: 25
    +3
    In order not to fill your head with nonsense, you need to start building production. All other problems are "derivative" of the disorder .. And here is the next summit, then the championship, then the Olympics. Hands can not reach the construction of the really important and necessary. All the steam goes to the dial tone, and the search for reasons that "interfere" with starting, at least doing something. And here Syria is completely incomprehensible. We are already there, present and strengthening. Maybe it's time to move from promises to BUSINESS inside a Country called Russia?
  • AKOL
    AKOL 21 June 2013 09: 26
    +1
    The fact that preparing for instability is a fact, the goal of conflicts has been clear, in my opinion, for a long time. It is also clear that sending unprepared guys to somewhere is also not a matter, but where to get the money to prepare the question. There is an ambush for whoever pays and orders the music.
  • shamil
    shamil 21 June 2013 09: 27
    0
    Is he on the forum? let them talk, tell us what and how, we, too, the fate of Syria is not indifferent
  • shamil
    shamil 21 June 2013 09: 33
    -2
    shorter komenty display almost one thing, who is minus me? is this homeless officer?
  • Kirgudum
    Kirgudum 21 June 2013 10: 05
    +1
    On the one hand, the idea is kind of good, but they take doubts - what will these volunteers do in Syria without knowledge of the language, local characteristics, without housing and money? Although it can be assumed that the Syrian army needs people to protect already cleared objects - because the tactics of the bandits is to beat in an unprotected place, and stretching the army to cover all the objects will not work outright - there are too many places that need to be covered, and too few personnel.
  • Chukcha
    Chukcha 21 June 2013 10: 28
    0
    Of course, it can spill over, the "Crimean Tatar question" is smoldering in Crimea, but in the former Soviet Asia it is also restless. But with the Caucasus it is not clear. One gets the impression that "everything is under control" there. Although it may be deceiving.
    Therefore, it is necessary to crush the militant nits in Syria, and the more the better.
  • ed65b
    ed65b 21 June 2013 10: 36
    0
    Quote: Kirgudum
    On the one hand, the idea is kind of good, but they take doubts - what will these volunteers do in Syria without knowledge of the language, local characteristics, without housing and money? Although it can be assumed that the Syrian army needs people to protect already cleared objects - because the tactics of the bandits is to beat in an unprotected place, and stretching the army to cover all the objects will not work outright - there are too many places that need to be covered, and too few personnel.

    will do the same as the Syrian army to beat the bandits. Cut the sector, tasks and go.
    1. bmussoli77
      21 June 2013 14: 12
      0
      Absolutely.
  • pa_nik
    pa_nik 21 June 2013 10: 37
    +1
    If the motion vector is preserved, then yes - to the borders of the former. USSR this x..ny rests angry
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 21 June 2013 10: 57
    +1
    I think that the rebellion, which like the fire in the forest the wind of history drives in our direction, will not stop at the borders. There is more than enough fuel material in the Caucasus, the Russian Federation, and Ukraine: Crimea, Transnistria, Transcarpathia. The whole question is - when?

    I completely agree. This plan has long been worked out and worked out in other countries, such as Libya, Syria, Algeria, Egypt. And the saddest thing is that neither 5th generation aircraft, nor tanks with nuclear submarines, will help here. It is necessary to act proactively to the special services, to frustrate any plans for destabilization in our regions even at the time of its planning. Because It’s worth a little bending down the federal government, as recently civilians of the Caucasus will take up Kalash and local wars, like Chechnya, will break out in many republics of the Russian Federation. Speaking of independence, they have already started talking in many places of the Russian Federation, which is the result of the work of our enemies.
    1. bmussoli77
      21 June 2013 14: 13
      +1
      But to counter the rebellion, it is necessary - under the guise of volunteers - to train those who will really fight, and not to pour out on the forums of homeless officers ...
  • Nomad
    Nomad 21 June 2013 11: 13
    +3
    Quote: Ascetic
    Example: 46-year-old Turk Kamal and his 42-year-old wife Shadiya, who participated in the survey, have 10 minor children. They live on benefits from the state. Kamal never worked or even graduated from high school. At the same time, the total family income is 3000 euros plus free housing, medical care and the use of transport. At the same time, German Dieter, who lives next door to Kamal, works 8 hours a day for a postal company and earns no more than 800 euros a month. After deducting all current expenses and paying for the apartment, he has about 400 euros left ... I wonder how long this burgher has enough tolerance?

    The old woman Europe finally fell into insanity! As they say, rzhunimagu!
  • Kushadasov
    Kushadasov 21 June 2013 11: 57
    +2
    some frivolous this homeless comrade. well, neither he himself nor his statements inspire confidence.
  • Russ69
    Russ69 21 June 2013 12: 44
    +2
    Work for the public and nothing more.
  • MG42
    MG42 21 June 2013 13: 03
    +3
    First of all, he himself put Assad in an awkward position by officially requesting financial support, which he will obviously be refused ... in such cases, the hype about reward is superfluous ..
  • Hort
    Hort 21 June 2013 13: 38
    +1
    generally speaking, Russia (for example) could have long ago formed a unit similar to the French Foreign Legion and used it successfully. This idea was well described by Roman Zolotnikov in his dilogy "Empire" - the Corps of Plastunov.
  • Vtel
    Vtel 21 June 2013 14: 43
    0
    "Cossacks, Cossacks,
    They go, they go around Berlin
    Our Cossacks. "
    Now it looks like Damascus.
  • Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 21 June 2013 15: 14
    +1
    I agree with PATRON in the Russian outback that all attempts to push the WHITE BRAIN AND REVOLUTION are doomed to failure, but the CAUCASUS REPUBLIC there is a real danger there after the Basaev’s raid on Budennovsk, when the Basa’s got its ISSUE, it’s a little to be reached.
  • Bosk
    Bosk 21 June 2013 23: 03
    0
    Complete "SHOOT" and not an article, a set of slippery words.
  • bmussoli77
    21 June 2013 23: 29
    0
    http://www.belaruspartisan.org/politic/233713/
    We think.
  • Kurtshaar
    Kurtshaar 23 June 2013 08: 59
    0
    Some unpleasant sediment remained from the article!