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This ugly, poor, barbarous Europe ...

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Europe was the most miserable place on earth. She first exhausted its resources.


This ugly, poor, barbarous Europe ...

Why was feminism born in Europe, but neither in Asia nor in South America is it, although there are significantly more women? Why have houses in Germany been built of half-timbered houses a thousand years ago — that is, of a mixture of all kinds of waste? Why did the Europeans "discover" the whole world for themselves, starting with Columbus, who went "for the Indians", and the world did not open Europe? Why is Europe the birthplace of all man-hating ideologies — racism, Nazism, and anti-Semitism? Why did Britain come up with the first concentration camp during the Anglo-Boer War at the end of the 19th century? Half a century before the GULAG. And why did she, the first famine in the same century, reduce the indigenous population of Ireland by half? Have you ever thought about it, reader, when it comes to your mind to join the EU?


Holodomor in Ireland. Organized "good old England"


And somehow all these questions came to me at the same time, and they stood up in order, overlapping the heads of question marks.

But first, an episode of twenty-five years ago. Summer 1988 of the year. After the second year of university, I was called to the Soviet Army. The one whose aggression frightened the West. At the end of the course, the young fighter had something like an interview. The company commander asked one of the soldiers: “Do you want to serve in the guard company?” “I want to,” the fighter answered. “Why?” “I love weaponcomrade senior lieutenant. When I take the machine, I feel a terrible force. I am just waiting for the Party to give the order to go and conquer this damned Europe and destroy the exploitative capitalist world! Ready to walk all the way to the Atlantic. ”

This soldier by the name of Karas, was born, like me from Kiev, was a horseman, the size of which was a little inferior to the superpopular then Schwarzenegger. But the company commander and zampolit, having heard the humorous "aria of Karas", did not take him to him. For two years he served as a soldier in a gymnasium - he used a brush to mark up the basketball and volleyball courts. This case perfectly demonstrates why neither Russia, nor the Soviet Union, nor, especially, Ukraine never went and would not go on an aggressive campaign to the West. And why the West regularly went to Russia on such trips. FIRST!

If our troops found themselves in Europe, then only striking back. We are not aggressive towards her. This Europe has always provoked our defensive response. And then the Russian Cossacks walked around Paris, and the Soviet Tanks - in Berlin.

At the military department in front of the army, I was taught for a year that the main type of battle for us was the offensive. But there was no offensive spirit in 1988 in the Soviet Army. I vouch for her ordinary stock. As a joke, I even told our officers: “You gathered us to eat here, sr ... and cleaned up after you. And you all serve in the firm conviction that the Third World will never begin. ” The officers laughed: "You understand everything correctly, student!"

After all of us together dissolved the Soviet Union, I ran across Europe and realized how small it is. In the morning you leave Kiev by car, and for dinner the next day, Poland, Germany, Austria are behind you, and you yourself are in Italy. And in the evening you can be in France. To conquer this “postage stamp”, pasted on the globe, is easier than ever if you are Attila and you got it. Figuratively speaking, trample horses with hoofs or wind on tank tracks. But they didn’t trample and wind, because they felt sorry for her, mean.

But Europe itself rarely regretted anyone. Precisely because it is small. And it means evil! There is such an experiment: if two rats, a male and a female, are placed in a cage the size of a square meter, they will breed exponentially. And even if these swarming rodents are given plenty of food and drink, they will arrange a war of mutual annihilation. For the territory. Each rat simply tears away the roof from constant friction about its own kind.

Little Europe is just such a rat. It first exhausted its natural resources one and a half thousand years ago - when the Roman Empire collapsed. We admire the Roman roads and aqueducts that have been preserved throughout Europe. But for their sake it was necessary to cut down the forests of present-day Italy and France. Construction required a huge amount of fixing wood. They also heated wood. An array of Roman citizens needed to be fed and entertained. At one point, it all ended. And forests, and gladiators in the arenas, and the Romans, capable of catching them. After all, citizens who are capable of actions died in numerous wars, and in Rome there were only cowards and perverts, very reminiscent of our urban alcoholics and drug addicts.


If you knew what it is from! And it looks so beautiful


Barbarians from the North and East - Germans and Huns - inherited a fairly used continent. Here is the answer to why an ordinary German in the XNUMXth century built his house from half-timbered houses. Not of stone, not of brick, not of wood, like our ancestors are Slavs who had plenty of forests, but according to the first ersatz technology. "Fachwerk", literally translated - "house-cage." The cage frame was built of wood, which was already in short supply. And the gaps were filled with anything - clay, straw, cobblestones, bricks and even, sorry, dried cow shit. All this was beautifully painted, flowers under the window - and come, godfather, to admire. Welcome to our half-timbered Frankfurt! God, how it burned, it's five hundred year old cow shit (verily historical!) when the Anglo-American bombed him aviation in the second world! It so burned that even the first firestorm in human history was recorded at the same time in Hamburg.

Land in Europe is pathologically inadequate. Everywhere - Baron on Baron. Everything is divided, measured, recorded, mortgaged and re-mortgaged. Hence the craving for long-distance wanderings with selfish interest. The Japanese did not care about Europe. The Chinese too. The blacks in Africa lived like children in paradise - they ate each other and were fed from that. And it is interesting to Europeans where that bad lies. Where the black man runs unsupervised or the Chinese have gotten in excess rice that can be removed from him in exchange for opium.


Each other on their heads. Pictures by Pieter Bruegel (1525 — 1569) clearly demonstrate that 500 was overcrowded Europe already years ago.


Columbus suffered to India from hunger, but not from thirst of distant wanderings. All three ships on his expedition are rented. One was financed by Spanish Jews. The other two - the king and greedy grants, in the present - the oligarchs. And hunger stood in Spain, as in Buchenwald. It was possible to feel the ridge through the skin of the belly of the proud hidalgo. Remember this Spanish writer - Arturo Perez Riverte? And his cycle of novels about captain Alatriste? Among the heroes of this cycle is a certain poet - Francisco de Quevedo. Character - not invented. Such a poet existed in reality. Born in 1580. He died in 1645. From grief to the Spanish reality. He also wrote a novel - "The history of the rascal named Don Pablos." One of the first European novels. With a typical European hero - scammer.

The heroes of this book never gorge. No other writer has more impressive pictures of hunger. Don Pablos goes to study in a closed boarding house and discovers that there is no toilet in principle. For uselessness. When a hapless student asks "from one long-time inhabitant of these places where the latrine is located," he gets the answer: "I don't know; in this house it is not. You can relieve yourself only once, as long as you are here in the teaching, anywhere, for I have been here for two months now, and I did it only on the day when I came here, that's how you are today, and because that he had dinner at home the night before. " Every now and then the author writes: "Dinner was postponed for the morning." Or: "If someone ate something, it is only my lice with my sinful flesh." And stuff like that.

Notice, at the time of writing the novel Columbus for more than a hundred years he discovered America. In Spain, there is a flow of gold from the colonies. And there is nothing to eat anyway. And across the country, crowds of unemployed nobles roam, like Don Pablos, and are looking for something to dine. And they are dressed in solid rags: "Silk stockings could not be called stockings, for they descended from their knees down only on four fingers, the rest was covered by boots."


Beggars. Another picture of Bruegel about the "beautiful European civilization"


Yes, this is a literary hyperbole. But all of Spain, with the exception of the top, recognized itself in these heroes. She also rarely dined and constantly altered the old clothes, gaping gaps in her pants and camisoles. That is why it was easy to find soldiers for mercenary armies in Europe. In the army (but only during the war!) At least fed and clothed. Thank God, even though the wars in Europe were long. That Centennial, then Thirty Years.

Everything makes sense and reason. Why, for example, in Europe there were so many knightly orders, where each knight was a monk at the same time, and not a single one in Russia? Why did Orthodox priests have the right to marry, and Catholic celibacy - the vow of celibacy? As they observed it, we guess. But neither the family nor the children and the knight-monk, and the Catholic priest could not start. And the answer lies on the surface. It's all about limited resources. Some men deliberately prevented from reproducing. Where to go to the second son in a noble family? The first will inherit the father's estate. And second? Or the third? They are one way. The monks, the Order of the Knights Templar, the priests, the mercenaries with the theoretical hope of starting a family if he survives or does not pick up a sexually transmitted disease during the campaigns. In Russia and Ukraine, on the contrary, any estate was divided into all sons. Earth is in bulk! And it was possible to expand to the south to the Black Sea, and to the east - up to the Pacific Ocean. That is why our priests are well-fed and married. With a clearly marked sin of gluttony sticking out from under the cassock.

But, despite the massive epidemics and endless wars, despite even emigration to the New World opened by Columbus, the population of Europe still grew at a gigantic pace. From 1800 to 1913, it almost tripled in the year, reaching 458 a million people. This jump occurred before the eyes of only three generations. And there was no end in sight. The average annual increase in the UK was 13,2 per thousand. In Germany - 7,4. Europe was overpopulated with sexually mature young people who did not know which altar to put on.

In the 1798 year, just on the eve of this latest population explosion, that is, the mass production of "extra people", the meticulous English priest Thomas Malthus published his "Experience about the law of population". According to Malthus, the unrestrained growth of the human population could only be stopped by wars, epidemics and famine.


The great Malthus said that it was necessary to "reduce" the Europeans


Malthus, with his terrible warnings, was ignored, and having sex without contraceptives, who had a sheep-gut look in those naive times, did not become less. But during the life of the author, “The Essay on the Law of Population” sustained six editions, which indicated the relevance of the topic! The truth of Malthus was brilliantly proven in practice as a result of two world wars of the 20th century.

Their main reason is the lack of a place in life for two generations of young people in Germany, Great Britain, France and Italy. They found it under Sedan and Verdun, in the cold waves of the Atlantic, in the sands of North Africa and on the boundless Russian plains up to the Volga. The losses of Europeans in percentage terms were terrible. Yesterday, men in Europe were abundant. And on the day of victory - already a deficit. For the first time, women began to occupy men's places - and not only in production, but also in ... the bed.

There is such a German-language novel by World War I veteran Joseph Roth, a Jewish youth from Brody in present-day Western Ukraine. The plot of it is as follows. The main character - an officer of the Austro-Hungarian army - marries in the early days of the war. But instead of the wedding night goes to the front. When he returns to Vienna from Russian captivity after four years, he discovers that his wife has become a lesbian and lives with a friend, but does not want to know her husband. Such a fun book. But with sad humor. She perfectly explains what modern feminism grew from. From the banal lack of men. In nature, it also happens. Of the two cats left without a male, one after some time begins to portray the "cat". How can, of course. That is, extremely unconvincing.

Britain showed the highest population growth in the 19th century. Therefore, on her conscience and the first artificially organized famine - in Ireland. It happened in 1845 — 1849. Serfdom still existed in Russia, and each landowner was obliged to distribute bread to the peasants during lean years. And in Ireland, the peasants were "personally free." Only without land. They rented it from the British nobility who seized this country in the 17th century. The basis of the simple Irish diet was potatoes. But because of the poor harvest there was nothing. And respectable Englishmen still demanded rent - after all, we have a legal state, where each side must fulfill its obligations! A quarter of the population of Ireland as a tongue lick. According to various estimates, from half to one and a half million people at once. The consequences were even worse. The Irish from such an agrarian policy began to massively flee to America. There are exact numbers. If in 1841, Ireland was inhabited by a little more than 8 million people, then in 1901 - only 4,5 million! How do you enjoy the pleasure of living under state administration with the first parliament in the world, and even in Europe?

But that is not all. Next Saturday, I will tell you who invented the first concentration camp, why Nazism is the most European of all ideologies, and why Ukraine will never become a member of the European Union.
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  1. Belogor
    Belogor 21 June 2013 09: 26 New
    47
    The hypocritical old woman Europe, dressing in noble clothes. And the inside, she always was rotten. A lot of shameful pages in her biography (history).
    1. TRAFFIC
      TRAFFIC 21 June 2013 10: 03 New
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      And in the history of which country is not
      shameful pages
      ? Elderberry for juggling minus.
      1. viktorR
        viktorR 21 June 2013 12: 37 New
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        You, apparently, dear, supporter of the "entry" of Ukraine into the European Union? So Ukraine will never be in the European Union. It’s just that nobody in the European Union needs it. And all those colored candy wrappers and glass beads with which they attract you ... even they are not about your honor ...
        1. TRAFFIC
          TRAFFIC 21 June 2013 13: 37 New
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          I am a supporter that my Motherland lives with everyone in peace and harmony, I can trade on equal terms with the whole world, so that the laws and rules of law in my country are respected. Europe has a GDP of 15 trillion. dollars, this is a huge market, without the ability to normally trade with them, we have no future. We do not have oil and gas, and therefore bringing our legislation in line with European standards and removing customs barriers is a vital necessity, otherwise no one will invest in Ukraine.
          1. Constantine
            Constantine 21 June 2013 13: 43 New
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            Only this market, as has been shown in practice, protects its manufacturer and destroys its competitors by various methods.

            European law is subject to double standards, and if there is a choice between the interests of Ukraine and the interests of the EU, then a fair solution does not shine. This was demonstrated, for example, when fighters at an exhibition, a sailboat, etc., tried to arrest Russia for alleged debts. The same case with Cyprus, when they threw the Cypriots, who, in exchange for the help of Greece, were promised to help later.

            Therefore, I’ll say, without even going into details, that only a superficial review is enough to realize the whole delirium of those theses that you issued the comments above.
            1. TRAFFIC
              TRAFFIC 21 June 2013 14: 24 New
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              Only this market, as has been shown in practice, protects its manufacturer and destroys its competitors by various methods
              and that’s why it’s necessary to do nothing at all, a free trade zone is not needed and so on, I correctly understood your train of thought, huh?
              This was demonstrated, for example, when fighters at an exhibition, a sailboat, etc., tried to arrest Russia for alleged debts.
              so what ended up, the court of which country put an end to?
              The same case with Cyprus, when they threw the Cypriots, who, in exchange for the help of Greece, were promised to help later.
              and 10 billion euros is that? 10000 per inhabitant is not enough? Moreover, I read somewhere that they lived better than the Germans.
              Therefore, I will say, without even going into details, that only a superficial review
              keyword superficial laughing
              1. Constantine
                Constantine 21 June 2013 14: 38 New
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                and that’s why it’s necessary to do nothing at all, a free trade zone is not needed and so on, I correctly understood your train of thought, huh?

                You understood me the way you wanted to understand. I’m saying that the EU will destroy what remains of Ukrainian production in order to remove its competitors, and to plant Ukraine even more on imports.

                so what ended up, the court of which country put an end to?

                If the EU court allowed such a development of events, then the case ended obviously not without interference at the highest level, and Putin replaced Yeltsin, which changed the rhetoric in principle. Your president, no matter how it sounds, is closer in terms of characteristics to Yeltsin, and not to Putin. Forgive the expression, they will have Ukraine, but he will smile and say that everything is in order.

                and 10 billion euros is that? 10000 per inhabitant is not enough? Moreover, I read somewhere that they lived better than the Germans.

                Given that they destroyed their reputation, 10 billion do not have the value that they would have in normal relations. Given that the economy of Cyprus rested on the banking sector, and the banks rested on trust, the move that the EU forced Cyprus to do simply destroyed the foundation of the economy of this state.

                superficial keyword

                When you deploy and consistently justify your position, then we will talk about it.
                1. TRAFFIC
                  TRAFFIC 21 June 2013 15: 51 New
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                  I’m saying that the EU will destroy what is left of Ukrainian production in order to remove competitors, and to plant Ukraine even more on imports.
                  Is this how the Russians did with our refineries, or for example recently with Lissoda? Maybe, but the better the vehicle? wink
                  If the EU court allowed such a development
                  so nevertheless the court of Switzerland, the country where the LEGA firm was from, huh?
                  Given that the economy of Cyprus rested on the banking sector
                  Cyprus banking sector was akin to MMM, for which they paid, and what does the EU have to do with it?
                  1. Constantine
                    Constantine 21 June 2013 16: 38 New
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                    Is this how the Russians did with our refineries, or for example recently with Lissoda? Maybe, but the better the vehicle?


                    You yourself destroyed your refineries, and Belarusians seized the initiative. This is not a one-day story, and if your oligarchs did not arrange a showdown among themselves, as in the case of Aero Sweet, etc., then the refinery, which served the largest network of gas stations, could be saved. Your financial elite is solely to blame.

                    Quote: TRAFIC
                    Cyprus banking sector was akin to MMM, for which they paid, and what does the EU have to do with it?

                    Explain to me what it means akin to MMM. Do you even know what MMM is, what a bank is, and what is an offshore?

                    Judging by the first point, you use argumentation at the level of rumors, while not reliable. What to take from you besides relaying rumors? I suspect that nothing.
                    1. TRAFFIC
                      TRAFFIC 21 June 2013 17: 31 New
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                      rumor-level argumentation
                      So it’s not Russian companies that bought the Lisichansk, Odessa and Kremenchug refineries? What are you talking about?
                      Explain to me what it means akin to MMM
                      This is when Cypriot banks attracted deposits at a rate several times higher than the European average, and not having the ability to ensure the payment of such interest through investments in the real economy, they did this through new deposits and investments in risky operations, and inflating a bubble in the market real estate.
                      1. Constantine
                        Constantine 21 June 2013 18: 07 New
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                        Quote: TRAFIC
                        This is when Cypriot banks attracted deposits at a rate several times higher than the European average, and not having the ability to ensure the payment of such interest through investments in the real economy, they did this through new deposits and investments in risky operations, and inflating a bubble in the market real estate.


                        The point was not in deposits. Deposits, for that matter, are stored in Switzerland, in top banks. here it is not so much the interest rate that matters as their safety and confidentiality. If you dig deeper already, then those who keep money in a relatively passive state, keep them in securities / give them to brokers, and do not keep them in their accounts. The benefit of fin. enough tools.

                        So it’s not Russian companies that bought the Lisichansk, Odessa and Kremenchug refineries? What are you talking about?

                        Refineries need to be considered not by quantity, but by capacity.
                      2. zardoz
                        zardoz 22 June 2013 04: 35 New
                        +4
                        The Lisichansk Refinery is TNK-BP and it is not a purely Russian company. By the way, they began to fade long ago. In Lugansk, there used to be a lot of their gas stations, until 2008. Wherever you spit everywhere, there was a TNK refueling. Then there was a conflict between the owners and the gas station began to decrease, at least in Lugansk. Now there are five gas stations and only one TNC within a kilometer from my place of residence. And the plant also had problems periodically. By the way, the plant was bankrupt or on the verge of TNK-BP becoming its owner. And by the way, it’s cheaper to transport fuel from Russia than to buy it at the factory :) Why I don’t know, but it’s a fact. It is impossible to sleep at night in the vicinity of Krasnodon ... fuel trucks almost travel in columns
              2. smile
                smile 21 June 2013 15: 17 New
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                TRAFFIC
                :)))
                Just don't tell the Germans. that the Cypriots lived better than the Germans — they would laugh ... and the Cypriots — would be offended, they would think. what are you kidding me! :))))
                The keyword "superficially" is about your dreams of paradise life during European integration ... and this is not even the right word ... for some reason the right word is not written ... :))))
                1. TRAFFIC
                  TRAFFIC 21 June 2013 17: 38 New
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                  [quote] Just do not tell the Germans. that the Cypriots lived better than the Germans, they would laugh [/ quote] I actually say why I bought for that and sell [quote] The inhabitants of Cyprus were about three times as wealthy as the inhabitants of Germany. This is evidenced by the results of a study of household income in the eurozone countries, which was conducted by the European Central Bank.

                  According to the ECB (file in .pdf format), the average condition of one family in Cyprus was about 670 thousand euros, and in Germany a little less than 200 thousand. The leaders in Europe are the residents of Luxembourg, where the fortune of one family is estimated at more than 700 thousand euros. [/ Quote] So all the questions to the ECB. [Quote] regarding your dreams of paradise life during European integration [/ quote Well, firstly , wink I personally do not complain about my life, secondly carefully read my second post in this thread. And thirdly [quote] dreams of paradise life [/ quote] this is to the fighters for the Taiga Union, who think that as soon as we enter there, paradise will immediately come fellow
                  1. smile
                    smile 21 June 2013 18: 05 New
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                    TRAFFIC
                    The statistics of Germany are spoiled by Turks, Albanians and others who come in large numbers, millions of whom are fed by Germany, you better communicate with normal Germans. take a look. how they live ..and with the Cypriots at the same time, be surprised that they want to live like the Germans :))) Luxembourg’s indicators are much better because getting citizenship there is extremely difficult, you have to be a very rich person. Also, for some reason, you forget how many even Russian rich people got citizenship there and are listed as living there ... :)))
                  2. Setrac
                    Setrac 21 June 2013 18: 06 New
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                    Quote: TRAFIC
                    the average condition of one family in Cyprus was about 670 thousand euros

                    The average temperature in the hospital, in the ward 30 in the corridor is 10 degrees Celsius, in the ward sweating, went out into the corridor - pneumonia, and on average - 20 degrees - the ideal temperature.
          2. agbykov
            agbykov 21 June 2013 13: 55 New
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            There have already been common economic spaces in history, whose members were called the Metropolis and the Colony. Did they invest a lot in the colony? wink
            1. smile
              smile 21 June 2013 15: 23 New
              +7
              agbykov
              And the beads! Beads you forgot !!! How are you so blundered. and? :)))
              Well, a little more lead, artillery shells (straight from the gunboats and delivered ... to the house :)))). The colonies were cleaned of excess mouths, and not all of the excess was buried - some were given good work, shelter and civilized food ... in slave corrals on plantations ... in general. there is investment! ... Or rather, across the face. :)))
          3. smile
            smile 21 June 2013 15: 12 New
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            TRAFFIC
            Familiar songs :))) Something similar the Lithuanians dreamed of seeking in the European Union. You know. What did the Europeans do when they accepted the Lithuanians? They crushed the remnants of industry, killed agriculture and completely destroyed the fishing fleet and the fishing industry with quotas! Just did not give quotas and all. Arctic fox!

            The result is that over twenty years the population of Lithuania has decreased by a quarter. 600 thousand Lithuanians, according to their official data, are migrant workers. because. that there is no place to work in Lithuania. This is every fifth resident of the country! ... Just think about these numbers. Do you like this perspective? Nobody will open any markets for you. you will simply be killed as a competitor and kept as a market and a source of cheap labor .... What kind of investment are you counting on there? That's just funny. Look at what your predecessors led to the desire to join Europe. Really, in order to understand that the cuckoo smells bad, it is not enough to see how the predecessor entered it? What, you must definitely experience it yourself, how is it? :)))

            If you, there are many such patriots in Ukraine, then it’s just right to regret Ukraine ....
            1. Constantine
              Constantine 21 June 2013 16: 40 New
              +6
              A person does not know what and who is doing in his country, and you tell him about the Baltic states wassat
            2. TRAFFIC
              TRAFFIC 21 June 2013 18: 27 New
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              You painted the situation in Lithuania very colorfully, smile I have no friends there, I will accept your words on faith laughing but it’s very much like the situation in Ukraine, one to one, except for agriculture. Is it strange, yes? And it seems we are not in the EU. Maybe there are some other reasons for this, didn’t think about it? And why are you only negative, from your point of view, give examples, but not Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, for example?
              Nobody will open any markets for you
              Well, why then sign the FTZ? I have no illusions that the association agreement will fundamentally change something in the economy of this country, if it were my will, would not join any unions, but now corporations rule in the world and there are such entities, what should I do? And in the end, this the dispute is practically useless, because I am 99% sure that no association will be signed in November, or when there, and most likely Yanukovych will begin joining the CU before the election. wink
              1. Constantine
                Constantine 21 June 2013 18: 41 New
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                There is a saying “Pole is not a nation, Pole is a profession”, which did not appear out of the blue. Poles at the genetic level, campaign, huckster. In addition to being hucksters from God, they live in clans. I will give an example. Dublin Airport, not a “guy with a girl”, “two friends”, etc., leave the plane of the LOT airline, but several Polish clans leave, that is, family with relatives in the collection. Farther they do the following. They take one or two people to work, for less than a minimum wage, and then begin to survive, through denunciations and frauds, of their colleagues. Filling the office by 70-80%, they put forward conditions that either you increase our salary or we leave at once. At the same time, they take only relatives or close friends to the places of those whom they have eliminated. All that is superfluous, from money, they send home. They are like a virus and for them their homeland is more important. they, in most cases, always come back and then invest money in the development of Poland. Poles are very different from Ukrainians. I would not compare Poland with Ukraine because the mentality is completely different. Why do not I cite the rest as an example? Well, because I know what I said in detail, but I did not understand their economies. However, against the general background, the whole EU economy is located in one place, and because it is mutually integrated, it will collapse all. It will be simply a historic failure.
              2. smile
                smile 21 June 2013 20: 18 New
                +8
                TRAFFIC
                Do not explain why you are laughing, having familiarized yourself with the results of the country along whose path you want to drag Ukraine?
                And you don’t see the difference in that something would break from your efforts and the situation when you were made to break the remaining uncles of you with one stroke of a pen? Be sure when the Lithuanians were eager for the EU, they also thought that it simply couldn’t be worse ... they entered ... they realized ... it’s too late to rock the boat ...
                You’ll also expect this if Ukraine prevails ... let’s say, narrow-minded people who know the life of new Europeans by advertising booklets ... only. who will be better off, officials, they will receive wages according to European standards ... however, in your case, with a decreasing coefficient, as in Lithuania.
                You can draw emoticons further - this is your country and your future, if you are funny, laugh at your health ...
                1. TRAFFIC
                  TRAFFIC 21 June 2013 21: 11 New
                  -5
                  For starters, how about these my words
                  but it’s very much like the situation in Ukraine, one to one, except for agriculture. Is it strange? And it seems we are not in the EU. Maybe there are some other reasons for this, did not think about it?
                  Do you think that if Lithuania had not joined the EU, would everything be fine there? As for what awaits us, I already wrote, the CU. laughing
                  1. smile
                    smile 21 June 2013 21: 24 New
                    +9
                    TRAFFIC
                    In any case, they still had a fishing fleet, they would decide what kind of agricultural products to produce, they could control their own currency and manipulate it, and if they didn’t have to bark at Russia, they would have markets, and investment - and I wouldn’t have to close Ignalina, now suffocating from a lack of electricity (and after all, they had sold it to us, even sold to us in the Kaliningrad region and we depended on them) and made dreams. that someone will give us money and build a new nuclear power plant, good ... European ... don’t laugh, these are the statements of their prime minister. I wouldn’t have to sell the Mazeikiai oil refinery to the Americans for nothing and face insufficient loading of raw materials, at the same time refusing to sell it to Lukoil for a much larger amount + guaranteed oil supplies for refining ... I can write a couple of pages of this .. trust me .. .
                  2. zardoz
                    zardoz 22 June 2013 04: 49 New
                    +5
                    Our industry has gone to one place because of the violation of economic relations with the industry of other former republics of the USSR and the total seizure and sale of all that was of value. But the industry came to some kind of balance and there seemed to be hope for a revival, until Yusch and Timokha decided to get accustomed to gas. As gas went up several times, the industry began to grow again.
            3. smile
              smile 21 June 2013 21: 05 New
              +2
              smile (2)
              AAAAA !!!! This is arbitrariness !!! Who changed the noble “c.k. shku” written by me in a comment to an inexpressive “cuckoo”?!:))) ... I am tormented by vague doubts ... :)))) the obvious machinations of the State Department :)) )))
            4. Quiet
              Quiet 25 June 2013 21: 24 New
              0
              over twenty years, the population of Lithuania has declined by a quarter. 600 thousand Lithuanians

              ... live with wolves - howl like a wolf !!!
          4. stroporez
            stroporez 21 June 2013 15: 21 New
            +9
            I don’t remember who, but very correctly and honestly designated the Slavs for Europe ---- "... these are such white European blacks ..." so sho "on equal terms" will never be
            1. Danilka
              Danilka 21 June 2013 19: 53 New
              +2
              sho something similar said Sergey Brin from GUGL-Russia is a snow-covered Nigeria. Hebrew pancake
            2. Dovmont
              Dovmont 21 June 2013 20: 38 New
              +8
              The way it is! Thanks to Jewish resellers, Europe was overflowed with Slavic slaves in the 15-16 centuries. The words of Petrarch are known about how his heart rejoices at the sight of so many cheap Slavic slaves. More than 2 million people were stolen from the territory of Russia alone. And the Jews are still surprised - and that the Russians hate them so much !! This hatred is rooted in us at the genetic level!
          5. vdenisov56
            vdenisov56 21 June 2013 19: 25 New
            +3
            I just wonder what Ukraine can trade with Russia and Europe. I’m without a joke - I just don’t know.
            1. alex13-61
              alex13-61 22 June 2013 13: 18 New
              0
              What kind of crazy you, uncle ... ah, fat ?? ..
          6. avdkrd
            avdkrd 21 June 2013 21: 21 New
            +5
            You are either a dreamer or a provocateur. To carry nonsense about a huge free market is in our enlightened age the lot of liberal clicks. Who needs you in this market? Ukraine is a member of the WTO - so what? Normally not trading? At least read the press, you will surely find a lot of information about how Latvia, Estonia, and the whole Eastern gayropa have enriched themselves. Mlyn, through one they became billionaires as soon as they entered the geyser .... In Europe, as there were three centers of power, it remained and all trade was carried out to their mutual benefit (not without bickering, but more or less civilized), all the rest pawns who are milked to dryness or sacrificed without regret (Cyprus, Greece, along with Turkey). I have not heard that Ukraine would enter the orbit of Germany (well, maybe in 41), France or England. From your last sentence, tears in my eyes came out ..... and I remembered my first.
          7. nnz226
            nnz226 21 June 2013 22: 21 New
            +7
            There will be no drawn "happiness". In the words of Confucius: "A person who does not foresee the future is waiting for him in failure and unhappiness. Study history to foresee the future." So the history of the territory where this Ukraine is located shows that without Russia - this is either the place of residence of the claps (slaves), under the auspices of "European" Poland, or, at the first attempt of independence, there was a historical phenomenon under the sonorous name of RUINA, so that we are now observing this - the RUIN once again, except that the Crimean Tatars do not sell Ukrainian girls under the windows of the Hetman's palace ... Well, under the geyropa there will be a clap territory.
          8. Eugene
            Eugene 22 June 2013 03: 20 New
            +1
            What to invest? What?! Woodpecker .....
          9. Eugene
            Eugene 22 June 2013 03: 24 New
            +1
            I realized that I said ...!?
          10. Misantrop
            Misantrop 22 June 2013 15: 26 New
            +1
            Quote: TRAFIC
            Europe has a GDP of 15 trillion. dollars

            Do you have COMPETITIVE (for their laws and requirements) goods for this amount? What are you going to trade with, prostitutes?
      2. alex13-61
        alex13-61 21 June 2013 14: 12 New
        +5
        Quote: TRAFIC
        Elderberry for juggling minus.

        Juggling specifically indicate, please.
        1. Constantine
          Constantine 21 June 2013 14: 39 New
          +3
          I would not count on the specifics performed by the subject;)
          1. TRAFFIC
            TRAFFIC 21 June 2013 19: 58 New
            -10
            Look at you laughing specific
            1. Constantine
              Constantine 21 June 2013 20: 16 New
              +3
              I look after my own words and I can justify them, which, unfortunately, is not applicable to you.
              1. TRAFFIC
                TRAFFIC 21 June 2013 20: 57 New
                -3
                Yes, about the company Noga, the justification is concrete, the same about the refinery, where did your specifics end? At the facilities, yes? So if you are so specific, you probably know them? How do you think Ukraine would be enough to satisfy at least the domestic market, eh? laughing And maybe you wrote something concrete about the crisis in Cyprus? laughing Your option? Evil EU destroyed Cyprus? Your reaction to Poland, this is generally an example of specifics.
                1. Constantine
                  Constantine 21 June 2013 21: 11 New
                  +2
                  Show me where your rationale has even begun.
                2. smirnov
                  smirnov 22 June 2013 15: 13 New
                  +2
                  And you, dear guardian for joining the EU, are aware that exactly the same association agreement, about which there are so many shouts, Europe has long signed with Egypt, for example. And what, Egypt healed? wink
      3. cumastra1
        cumastra1 21 June 2013 18: 01 New
        10
        Take any euro country. The country of the musketeers is France. What did they come up with? Arranged the genocide of the population in the southern regions, unleashed a grand religious war. About Napoleon just keep quiet. And so with any European country. Even the smallest ones are the Vatican for example. This is where cannibals ruled for centuries. And homo seki so to speak, where did you gain such strength in Europe? And look at how many popes dabbled in .. po? Marvel And the fish rots from the head. I agree with the author. We have our own way. Not European. This is not ours. not to be confused with barbarism - ignorance is not welcome! And to learn from the mistakes of Europe is simply necessary, the main thing is not to repeat them. and as said a long time ago ".... to separate the lambs from the goats ....."
      4. brelok
        brelok 22 June 2013 06: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: TRAFIC
        And in the history of which country is not
        shameful pages

        Are you talking about Nezalezhnaya? Your rulers were always ready for meanness! Only in Russia it came out with great blood!
      5. vlad1
        vlad1 25 June 2013 19: 48 New
        0
        of course, every country has dark pages, but for some reason the West constantly finds them only with us.
      6. Quiet
        Quiet 25 June 2013 21: 20 New
        0
        ? Elderberry for juggling minus.

        Banderovits ... "Che ??" - the film "Brother 2" ..... laughing
        1. sergiyt
          sergiyt 2 July 2013 16: 15 New
          0
          Long live Russian Nazism! The generation brought up on Brother2 glory!
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    4. vjhbc
      vjhbc 21 June 2013 13: 04 New
      +9
      that's what I 100% agree with
      1. redwar6
        redwar6 21 June 2013 20: 11 New
        +2
        Thanks for the great video, poems are powerful. I agree, like you, 100%.
      2. Dovmont
        Dovmont 21 June 2013 20: 53 New
        +6
        The block is certainly a talent, but at the expense of the Scythians with slanting eyes, he certainly lupanul without thinking, or maybe out of ignorance. The Scythians, as well as the Cimmerians, belonged to the Southeast European subrace, to which in the modern world those Russians, Belorussians and Ukrainians have preserved the haplotype R1A2. That is, they were our direct ancestors.
      3. mertvoe_exo
        mertvoe_exo 21 June 2013 22: 44 New
        0
        great poems
    5. Gladiatir-zlo
      Gladiatir-zlo 21 June 2013 22: 24 New
      -1
      And she’s not hypocritical, why did you get it, hungry, angry, scary, how to believe her?
  2. Trapperxnumx
    Trapperxnumx 21 June 2013 09: 52 New
    12
    Shine! To the author - BRAVO!
  3. Dart weyder
    Dart weyder 21 June 2013 10: 00 New
    15
    "Blacks in Africa lived like children in paradise - they ate each other and were fed up"- no words laughing In general, the article clearly describes the "enlightened"
  4. Fuzeler
    Fuzeler 21 June 2013 10: 06 New
    +8
    Too vicious, and a lot of emotions. Despite the fact that I myself believe that in our pre-Petrine Russia there was more Law, order and humanism than in European countries.
    1. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 21 June 2013 10: 37 New
      17
      Quote: Fuzeler
      Too vicious, and a lot of emotions.

      I suspect that this is the answer to the gay people for the unwashed barbaric Russia !?
      You just need to listen less and read Russophobian nonsense, put your strength on something useful. wink
      1. stroporez
        stroporez 21 June 2013 15: 24 New
        +1
        Quote: Strezhevchanin
        less need to listen and read Russophobian nonsense
        you’ll have to look and listen. by now, turn your back on them --- dumb ..............
    2. dark_65
      dark_65 21 June 2013 10: 44 New
      +9
      Too spiteful? It’s still written softly. I’m familiar with European customs firsthand, most of them are scum.
      Look at the link, this is also part of Europe.
      http://tfile.me/forum/viewtopic.php?t=558504
      1. tor-vic
        tor-vic 21 June 2013 13: 06 New
        -2
        and where was better? In China? India? Persia?
        1. alex13-61
          alex13-61 21 June 2013 14: 19 New
          +3
          Quote: tor-vic
          and where was better? In China? India? Persia?

          Here, here ... and sepoys, those that the Anglo-Saxons in India tied to guns, I would also add ...
          In short, where they didn’t appear, they sowed everywhere ... the freedom to die.
      2. sergiyt
        sergiyt 2 July 2013 16: 17 New
        +1
        Yes, for most Russians all scum
    3. Constantine
      Constantine 21 June 2013 13: 30 New
      +1
      Things need to be called by their proper names.
    4. smile
      smile 21 June 2013 15: 30 New
      +5
      Fuzeler
      Come on .. it's just "our answer to Chamberlain" on the stories that Europeans tell about themselves, justifying their chosenness and the right to intervene in the life of other nations. And also on the pink drool emitted towards Europe by our liberals, astounded by their propaganda, who angrily stigmatized our “scoop” and impoverished, slavish Russia ... And a good answer.
    5. Motorist
      Motorist 23 June 2013 13: 20 New
      +1
      I recall that in the 18th century German students had such a brotherhood - they swore never to wash, to spoil the air in public places, etc.
      AND THEY HAVE ALSO USED PIGS TO US !!!
  5. crush
    crush 21 June 2013 10: 14 New
    -33
    Ukraine will be in the EU so that they do not write there. And we will have our own vehicle.
    1. ildar335
      ildar335 21 June 2013 10: 32 New
      10
      Yes, no one doubts that the pig will find dirt everywhere!
      Europe only needs Ukraine only as a raw materials appendage! PRIDE UKRAINE !!!))))
    2. OTTO Boond
      OTTO Boond 21 June 2013 10: 40 New
      +8
      Alas, no one needs Ukraine in the EU, neither Russia, nor Europe, and no one will ask the opinion of Ukraine, this is the reality and it will have to be put up with
    3. dark_65
      dark_65 21 June 2013 10: 54 New
      +6
      Ukraine will be, just not in the EU, but already ... in the ass ... E. De facto.
    4. MG42
      MG42 21 June 2013 12: 09 New
      +6
      Quote: crush
      Ukraine will be in the EU so that they do not write there.

      Another Svidomo bot. Why are you shy of your yellow-blue?
    5. Andrew-001
      Andrew-001 21 June 2013 12: 10 New
      +5
      crush, and in Ukraine has a law been adopted on the legalization of 3,14 daras, the introduction of same-sex marriage and the transfer of children to these families from normal families? Without this, in the EU today - speaking in Russian - there is no way to get involved. Or - politically correct - not to enter.

      I think that Ukrainians (not to be confused with certain "ancient Ukrainians"), as normal and fraternal people, are hardly eager to enter such a Europe.
    6. Ivan_Ivanov
      Ivan_Ivanov 21 June 2013 12: 24 New
      14
      Ukraine will be in the EU only when (or if) civilized Europeans, at the hands of local Judas, destroy 80 percent of Ukrainians.
    7. Evgeniy-111
      Evgeniy-111 21 June 2013 13: 27 New
      +1
      Flag in hand!
      Star-striped ...
    8. Constantine
      Constantine 21 June 2013 13: 29 New
      15
      The Baltic states also torn into the EU and hit. Result:
      1. Several GDP of external debt of each country.
      2. The economy as such is not in principle.
      3. Production ceased to exist, for the most part.
      4. Having closed the Ignalina NPP, the Balts are now buying electricity at completely different prices, incidentally, depriving Lithuania of at least some substantial replenishment of the chamber budget.
      5. CIA prisons in the territory
      6. Reducing social spending, increasing tariffs and falling wages
      7. As a result, everything turned into a situation where each country loses a town a year in the form of labor migrants. Latvia is losing something about 30k people.
      8. There is no army as such.
      9. Roads killed, as well as housing in general. Last summer, it once again refuted for itself the myth that Russia has bad roads.
      10. Complete loss of sovereignty.
      11. High mortality, including due to suicide.
      12. Rising prices for basic products. In Vilnius stores, for example, some of the products that everyone has in the refrigerator are in Moscow.
      13. The list goes on.

      What do we have as a result? The complete destruction of the state and its submission. The complete destruction of the economy with the destruction of production, export slave. strength and planting on European products.

      I and many of my comrades have the feeling that Lithuania is being cleared as a territory. Cleared of people. So you can tell stories about Ukraine in the EU to Bendera people who put it on their country and on their people. In the moment, the cultural code will work and Ukraine will return because otherwise it will simply be destroyed. Not immediately, but 1000% will do this.
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    10. Suvorov000
      Suvorov000 21 June 2013 14: 05 New
      +8
      And now the first question arises, what can you bring to this EU, why isn’t it there, what do they need from you to think carefully
    11. Commissar of the NKVD
      Commissar of the NKVD 21 June 2013 17: 56 New
      +3
      Who needs Nezalezhnaya there? Well, if only like Tobaccos to Sher Khan, like the modern Baltic.
      Think, does Ukraine need this lousy EU?
  6. ale-x
    ale-x 21 June 2013 10: 18 New
    +3
    I dare to note that in our time these phenomena (mass reduction of the indigenous population in Europe) have a place to be, only they have a different wrapper. Now the old woman-Europe was swept by a wave of sadomy. Well, of course, where would it be without this? Here, after all, there are also economic dividends, and there are fewer "enemy people".
    1. Zopuhhh
      Zopuhhh 21 June 2013 11: 45 New
      +6
      And the standards of beauty imposed by the devil knows by whom ... These standards make the probability of making a healthy child extremely illusory
  7. irka_65. irina
    irka_65. irina 21 June 2013 10: 23 New
    +7
    Thanks to the author !!! I am waiting for an article about the first concentration camp.
  8. Evgan
    Evgan 21 June 2013 10: 25 New
    +2
    Of course, much of what the author is talking about is true. But the article was still not liked for two reasons:
    1. It contains some kind of completely anti-European hysteria, really too many emotions. From such articles, Caucasians make a conclusion about our "aggressiveness."
    2. I do not see anything wrong with the fact that they built houses from cow poop - if there is nothing else at hand and it worked fine. We also made huts and dung drowned - is this evidence of something?
    1. Dovmont
      Dovmont 21 June 2013 21: 09 New
      -1
      The author’s euphobia is close and attractive to me, even in such an aggressive form. But the author is not historically accurate in everything. For example, in the 90th century, 500% of the territory of modern Germany was settled by Slavs. Therefore, at that time only Slavs could build houses out of crap there. Yes, and it is unlikely that a house slept out of shit will last XNUMX years.
  9. 12061973
    12061973 21 June 2013 10: 25 New
    +3
    the planet itself will figure it out. For example, the 14th century plague epidemic 70% of the world's population has died out, and now it’s going to.
    1. Evgeniy-111
      Evgeniy-111 21 June 2013 13: 28 New
      +2
      Now she (the earth) is well helped.
  10. Fin
    Fin 21 June 2013 10: 40 New
    12
    Why were houses in Germany built a thousand years ago from half-timbered houses - that is, from a mixture of all kinds of waste?
    I do not agree. Photo houses p. Zheleznodorozhny, Kaliningrad region. He left there in 1976, the last time was in 2010. These houses are 400-500 years old, stand without repair since 1945, built of normal brick. If you follow them, they will stand for so much more.
    I liked the article. A good analysis of the works of medieval authors.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 21 June 2013 11: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: Fin
      Photo houses p. Zheleznodorozhny, Kaliningrad region.

      This, in general, is not Germany, which Frederick 2 so hated, but Prussia.
    2. Avenger711
      Avenger711 21 June 2013 13: 44 New
      0
      My mother is from there from the Kaliningrad region. After the Germans, there was a lot of useful things left, including capital buildings about which the USSR could only dream for the 45th year
  11. Forest
    Forest 21 June 2013 10: 40 New
    -4
    This is in what "paradise" do children eat each other?
    As I understand it in aFtor paradise (
  12. Seraph
    Seraph 21 June 2013 10: 57 New
    +5
    One of the main skills of Europeans is the ability to portray something, pampering. They do not need to be rich and free, enough to look rich and free. They continue to live in a cramped outhouse, but to others it seems that this is a palace.
    Only severe mental injuries caused by the poverty and hopelessness of Europe, could give rise to such a thirst for profit and domination, which "enlightened" shone the last century.
    To know the price of their civilization, it is enough to know the course of the history of the Middle Ages and the new time of the Soviet school and periodically read something on Wikipedia. And if you still purposefully connect the state ?! How many of our fellow citizens would wake up from the false fabrications of the European hassle!
    1. tor-vic
      tor-vic 21 June 2013 14: 25 New
      0
      China was a wealthy state. But the inhabitants lived much poorer than the European.
  13. Dejavu
    Dejavu 21 June 2013 10: 57 New
    +5
    The great Malthus said that it was necessary to "reduce" the Europeans

    And I agree with him ...
  14. deman73
    deman73 21 June 2013 11: 02 New
    +1
    This has long been known to everyone except the geyropeytsy who are heavily hammered into the head all kinds of shitty values
    1. Commissar of the NKVD
      Commissar of the NKVD 21 June 2013 17: 59 New
      +1
      And I do not mind !!! Do they have their own brains? You need to think!
  15. ed65b
    ed65b 21 June 2013 11: 10 New
    +3
    In India, a piece of asphalt (a place to sleep) is inherited, this is population density !!!!!! In the cities of course. And Europe has always been for us and will be a place of constant instability, hiking and irritation. and it’s interesting that as soon as a Russian person has an excess of financial means, he immediately rolls into Europe and starts broadcasting from there thoughtfully raising his eyes to God and crossing his arms on his stomach. So there is some kind of sacred meaning in this.
  16. _KM_
    _KM_ 21 June 2013 11: 31 New
    +4
    The article is evil and biased. Well, the indigenous population of Europe will die out and what's next? Further it will be settled by Turks, Africans and other peoples. What we already see on the example of France (Africans) and Germany (Turks). Will it get better? No. A new round will begin. Reception with new strength and anger. In this case, traditional European culture and science will be lost. Yes, she’s already lost. And who is better off from this? That's right, the same Rothschilds and so on. What is this to us? We are in the same position. Therefore, what is the point of kicking Europeans and recalling old grievances. On the contrary, we now have a common enemy ....
    1. Andrew-001
      Andrew-001 21 June 2013 12: 20 New
      +6
      _KM_After all, you know the old wisdom: who remembers the old - that eye out?
      We like to quote her 1-the first part, and the second is gently ignored. And the continuation is simple: And whoever forgets is both.
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 21 June 2013 18: 15 New
      +2
      Well, how many times in the history of Russia did the Turks stand under the walls of Moscow, or the Africans? Europe is not an ally to us, they are bandits, criminals, all Europe has rightly said above - the zone of instability where every bastard is climbing from.
      1. Turner
        Turner 23 June 2013 23: 58 New
        0
        That's right, and our bastard all wound there
    3. SlavaP
      SlavaP 21 June 2013 21: 37 New
      0
      KM -I completely agree with you. If you dig well, then heaps of crap can be found in the history of any continent and any country. Indeed, we have one enemy, or rather two - 1) modern barbers-cannibals and 2) politically correct .... (well, in general, understandable). And to fight them, we need to combine efforts, those who understand this fully among the Slavs, and among us, excuse me, the “gay people”. And in the European Union there is nothing to do - it is bursting at the seams and here we are in Britain waiting - we won’t wait when it finally collapses ... and our sterling is alive!
    4. Raiven
      Raiven 22 June 2013 02: 45 New
      +1
      Yeah, we are all the same. What in Europe, what we have and what in Africa, Asia, etc. Have there been wars everywhere? There were. Executions, torture, social. injustice too. Who does not know, teach history. It’s just that Europe was more agile at the right time. So we would have done (but the Russian Empire had something to take: Siberia, ON and so on), a bunch of empires in Asia and so on. The article as KM said is evil and biased
  17. Simple
    Simple 21 June 2013 11: 33 New
    -8
    I read it to "already a thousand years ago they built it from half-timbered houses - that is, from a mixture of all kinds of waste" did not go any further.
    What does "a thousand years ago" have to do with this - there is nothing more to write about?

    Article - “minus” for content and manner of presentation.
  18. pensioner
    pensioner 21 June 2013 11: 37 New
    +7
    Talentedly written! You can’t say anything ... As Papandopulo from "Wedding in the Robin" said: "My heart feels, we are on the eve of a grand schucher!" This is about modern Europe!
  19. Altor86
    Altor86 21 June 2013 11: 37 New
    +9
    To the author +++. And if there is too much emotion, then this is normal. Read what they write about us in Europe!
  20. MG42
    MG42 21 June 2013 12: 01 New
    +8
    Temples in Germany are empty now, sometimes they are simply sold for even under nightclubs and restaurants, I wrote earlier, now the trend has spread to France ..
    The Muslim community of the French town of Vierzon has the opportunity to purchase a Christian church. How they wanted to turn the Christian church into a mosque after the reduction of the Christian population in the town video below >>
  21. Letterksi
    Letterksi 21 June 2013 12: 08 New
    +7
    Well written! It looks like Medinsky in myths about Russia.
    All development and technological growth comes from overpopulation. Not a single person will puzzle over the so-called "progress" if life is peaceful, well-fed and good. Only an angry hungry European will try to “progress” in order to snatch at least something for himself. Europe will have the only small “historical window” in which it lived more or less normally. But it looks like it is closing now
  22. ed65b
    ed65b 21 June 2013 12: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: LetterKsi
    Europe will have the only small “historical window” in which it lived more or less normally. But it looks like it is closing now

    you probably wanted to say it. yes, only a window remained from the window. No matter how we are convinced in the bright future of Europe, it is seen more and more in crimson tones. And tolerance for a gay minority is one of the reasons for the decline of the old woman.
  23. mark7
    mark7 21 June 2013 12: 26 New
    +4
    article + logically and with humor
  24. misham
    misham 21 June 2013 12: 30 New
    -10
    Elderberry is a famous provocateur. We have, as they say, an agent of influence. He just had to justify everything .... especially the old Europe. All these facts are also known about the poverty and unwillingness of medieval Europe. We do not see our own in a stranger. Yes, they have a lot of problems now, and migrants and the economic crisis and feminists with all kinds of LGBT people, but they will figure it out themselves. In Ukraine, who can slowly dump there. Even to the Czech Republic and Slovenia.
    Puppeteers elderberries all babosy hold TAM and their children are attached there. In the morning he cursed the accursed Geyropa and after dinner, he had to call his realtor in London if suddenly some descendant of Churchill would sell his family castle.
    1. viktorR
      viktorR 21 June 2013 13: 11 New
      +7
      Why can they delve into ours without seeing us, but we do not? Moreover, the log is more likely in their eye than ours? They came to us with the war, and not we to them, but I’m sure they will come. Yes, and what is happening now - you also know not good neighborly relations, they push our "elite" as they want.
      Puppeteers elderberry? Please share the link before you bribe anyone.
    2. Constantine
      Constantine 21 June 2013 13: 47 New
      +7
      Evidence in the studio.

      We, in ours, are shown with enviable constancy. Even those problems that we do not have. An example is an attempt to impose "tolerance" on queers and their friends. Why can not we open our eyes to our own, indicating that in the west to Paradise on earth, and the usual landfill, only in a beautiful wrapper? And in general, if you are going to blame someone specific, then this charge must be justified and at least somehow proved. Otherwise, it looks like a Coco.
    3. Andrew-001
      Andrew-001 21 June 2013 14: 15 New
      +7
      Quote: misham
      In Ukraine, who can slowly dump there.

      mishamYou will excuse me - but from Russia, too, all sorts of overt and covert LGBT people and other 3,14 are dumped at Geyropa.
      Quote: misham
      We do not see our own in a stranger.

      Here you are completely wrong - we see our own and are working on its correction. Maybe slowly, maybe not very well - but we are fixing it. But it’s just Heypopa who is repeating to our children, like that butler from the song - they say everything is fine, a beautiful marquise. I know this for sure. I teach at school and communicate daily with students - they are convinced that everything is fine in Europe. And since Geyropa tells us how THEY are doing well and how the US is doing badly — then we are entitled to do the same in response, primarily for our growing children. There is nothing to climb and learn to live with us, if they cannot restore order in themselves.
      And finally, to paraphrase A. Nevsky: Whoever comes to us with "democracy" will die from "democracy" angry .
  25. Danilka
    Danilka 21 June 2013 12: 31 New
    0
    I’m wondering, the Rothschilds and Rockefellers are trying to reduce the world's population but it only rolls in Europe? Is it only a white person who is subject to debauchery?
    1. smile
      smile 21 June 2013 15: 36 New
      +3
      Danilka
      Oh, well, just please about the Jews who captured the galaxy is not necessary, huh?
  26. tor-vic
    tor-vic 21 June 2013 12: 36 New
    +5
    The author speaks correctly, but twitches.
    Europe had a more favorable climate than Russia, and population density is higher. But worse than in Asia. Therefore, in Asia, population density is even higher than in Europe. Plus, the emergence of rice farming made it possible to obtain large yields on a small piece of land. And the structure of society in Asia has formed over the centuries so that to live in conditions of hypercrowding.
    In Russia, with a lower yield, it was possible to expand in breadth, expansively. Europe had only one way out - intensification. Therefore, Europe has become the birthplace of technological progress. And the author did not see this. All of Europe is rugged by the Ice Age. Hence, many peoples in one relatively small territory. If Europe were more accessible, there would have long been a kind of super-state like China. But this, alas, was not. but this Europeans were able to overcome. Europeans lived much worse than Arabs, Indians, Chinese, or Persians. But where are these Arabs, Indians, Chinese and Persians now? They still had better starting opportunities, but they still lagged behind. And the author also did not see this.
    1. Danilka
      Danilka 21 June 2013 12: 48 New
      +2
      so here comes the idea that only white is able to think and create. and other nations are monkeys and locusts
      1. tor-vic
        tor-vic 21 June 2013 13: 03 New
        +5
        The higher the intelligence, the more vulnerable it is to any viruses. There is no such ideology that could prove to the Indians or Negroes that there is no need to multiply. They have biological thinking. And highly developed nations can brainwash.
        In addition, the task of any parasite is to weaken the host's body so that it cannot develop immunity. Usually, the host organism eventually dies. Often - along with parasites. Here are parasites and try to weaken Europeans as much as possible.
      2. Raiven
        Raiven 22 June 2013 02: 48 New
        0
        Other peoples as ideas did not come, there was no need to come up with a new one then
  27. tor-vic
    tor-vic 21 June 2013 12: 59 New
    +2
    Well, for some reason, neither the Indians, nor the Chinese, nor the Arabs, nor the Persians, despite the fact that they lived much richer than Europe, did not come up with a steam engine or firearms. They could not participate in the great geographical discoveries and much more could not be done ...
    1. Ivan_Ivanov
      Ivan_Ivanov 21 June 2013 13: 02 New
      +1
      Goal for fiction is cunning.
    2. SlavaP
      SlavaP 21 June 2013 21: 41 New
      0
      Sorry, you need to look at the time scale - at some point, the Chinese, Indians and Persians (Assyria) and Arabs (Baghdad Caliphate) bathed in luxury, and our ancestors still walked in the shoes
  28. Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov 21 June 2013 13: 01 New
    +6
    The article is brilliance.

    That's just at home from the waste, he ridicules in vain. The entire South of both Russia and Ukraine was recently built from adobe. Saman is a building material from clay, straw and cow poop mixed and dried in the sun.
    1. alex13-61
      alex13-61 21 June 2013 14: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
      The entire South of both Russia and Ukraine was recently built from adobe. Saman is a building material from clay, straw and cow poop mixed and dried in the sun.

      Shell rock and limestone mainly ...
      1. Ivan_Ivanov
        Ivan_Ivanov 21 June 2013 15: 41 New
        0
        Shellfish - only on the seashore. Limestone - units. Almost all one-story houses are exclusively adobe.
  29. Evgenx
    Evgenx 21 June 2013 13: 15 New
    11
    Elderberry main idea: Europe is out of breath !!! Many of the bloggers are fixated on elderberry phrases! He writes correctly: there is nothing to strive for in this Giv_o !!! Moreover, vile, and considering Ukraine as a buffer between Russia and the EU, and as a place of dumping all the indecency of its industry!
    The signing of the association with the EU will bring to the end everything that is not killed by "EASTERNESS"!
    In contrast to the forces aspiring to the TS, the so-called “applause” did not even try to convey to the citizens of the country: what awaits them with the signing of this association!
    I’m sorry! I heard from one of the ideologists of the “appetite” Sobolev: In the EU, a cleaner, a dishwasher receives many times more than our brother in Ukraine "
    1. Ivan_Ivanov
      Ivan_Ivanov 21 June 2013 13: 18 New
      +4
      So everyone pulls the country into Europe: both the power and the opposition.
    2. TRAFFIC
      TRAFFIC 21 June 2013 13: 28 New
      -1
      Please tell me, if Europe is running out of breath, then with what words will you describe the current situation in Ukraine? Clinical death?
      The signing of the association with the EU will bring to the end everything that is not killed by "EASTERNESS"!
      justify this thought. And this one to the heap
      dumping place of all the indecency of their industry!
      1. agbykov
        agbykov 21 June 2013 14: 07 New
        +2
        Read and analyze the data of professional economists, including the proposals of the Ministry of Economic Development of Ukraine, with figures and facts:
        http://2000.net.ua/2000/derzhava/ekonomika/91572
        http://2000.net.ua/2000/forum/sosedi/87361
        http://2000.net.ua/2000/derzhava/resursy/78706
        http://2000.net.ua/2000/derzhava/ekonomika/74757
        http://2000.net.ua/2000/derzhava/ekonomika/75309
        1. TRAFFIC
          TRAFFIC 21 June 2013 15: 10 New
          -4
          Muntiyan, as the representative of Ukraine at the CES, is an interested person, there are a lot of assumptions and fantasies, ignoring the positive in the EU. Besides, you can’t see the TS’s grandiose successes, such as even a drop in trade over the first six months?
          We are talking about the so-called “Belarusian” and “Kazakhstani” fictitious import schemes - Russian residents transfer money under foreign trade contracts, under which goods are allegedly delivered from Belarus and Kazakhstan, but the funds are transferred to accounts in foreign banks outside these countries. To control how real these deliveries of goods are, the regime of the Customs Union of Russia with Kazakhstan and Belarus does not allow.
          Thus, through fictitious import schemes from two union states, only in 2012 $ 25 billion was withdrawn from Russia - i.e. over 40% of the total net capital outflow from the country
          And once again, I wrote above that I want my country to trade freely with the whole world, it’s not Ukraine, but the EU and Russia that make us a choice.
          1. agbykov
            agbykov 21 June 2013 15: 58 New
            +4
            And what about the personality of Muntiyan? I suggested that you familiarize yourself with the facts and figures. Or were there no other arguments?
          2. Cat
            Cat 21 June 2013 21: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: TRAFIC
            And once again, I wrote above that I want my country to trade freely with the whole world, it’s not Ukraine, but the EU and Russia that make us a choice.

            But in conditions, the whole difference is hiccuped.
            The EU, besides a lengthy package of various requirements (for the most part obscure to “little Ukrainians”), is moving a precondition: increase in utility bills for the population . Moreover, the association agreement provides for entry into the EU and receiving any profit from it - in 10 years (and that is not a fact), but the increase in tariffs is now and immediately. Personally, are you ready to pay for a communal apartment 3, 5, 10 times more just because you want a European uncle? Which, in addition, does not offer anything in return - neither a guaranteed increase in salaries, nor a visa-free regime, nor free medicine, etc. etc.? How sideways can this demand be stuck to increase the well-being of the Ukrainian people? But no way. But it’s very nice to stick to an increase in prime cost and, accordingly, a decrease in the competitiveness of Ukrainian goods.
            Well, for a snack - the gas issue, which no self-respecting self-reliance can do without discussion =) As you know, Ukraine pays for gas more than the rest of Europe (even taking into account the Kharkov agreements). It got to the point that buying Russian gas in Germany was cheaper than directly in Russia. Bullshit, you can’t say otherwise. And all because of the notorious agreement signed by the notorious Yulia Vladimirovna. And the release from prison of this same Yuli - too, is compulsory prerequisite for coveted European integration. Moreover, the question of whether SEE violated the law or did not violate it is not even worth it: it must be freed, because it must be freed, because otherwise there is not a single foot in Europe. And this demand, too, doesn’t work to stick to the interests of Ukraine in general and the Ukrainian people in particular.

            Or maybe for entry into the vehicle, too, it is necessary to fulfill any conditions of a similar plan? I personally have not heard of such, if you have information - enlighten, plz.
      2. Bismark
        Bismark 23 June 2013 15: 28 New
        0
        An agreement with the EU is not yet accession to the EU. Yes, and the agreement has already been discussed for a year, they do not need an additional anchor in the economy, they have enough of their poor fellow (Greece, Cyprus ...). I’m not particularly upset because Ukraine is very far from the EU.
        For the article +!
  30. Avenger711
    Avenger711 21 June 2013 13: 27 New
    +2
    Well then, then, in a couple of hundred years, the Russians have gone through cold and hungry Siberia through and through and have gained a foothold in America?

    And where did you get the idea that Asians and Pre-Columbian Indians did not slaughter each other with rapture?

    The population growth in Russia is smaller, and possibly larger, for the indicated period. Well then there were no contraceptives anywhere, and the girls were no less depraved than now. The relative calm in Russia begins about the century from the 18th, when all too violent neighbors at the borders were eliminated, and the borders themselves moved away. Iron and blood. Moreover, even in the 18th century, even before the horrors of post-reform Russia, which, due to lack of land, was already shaking from hunger, as if in a fever, there were numerous cases of hunger. In the era of Ivan the Terrible, Moscow was under constant threat of invasion, and every person from a peasant to a tsar was a serf in fact, otherwise the peasants plow and feed the nobles so that they protect them by the first order.

    The impoverished Europe, in fact, has bent half of the world and since the 17th century has already fattened at the expense of it. Hence the scattering of states in America that they were regarded as exporting everything to the metropolis, which even the colonialists wanted to get away from. Well, such clever Indians or narrow-eyed could not fight off the poor Europeans? And why almost all inventions and fundamental scientific research over the past 500 years were made not in China, which even now cannot produce anything, but in Europe.

    And I'll tell you why, higher aggressiveness and desire to change everything for themselves due to a higher level of testosterone in European men compared to Asians and higher math skills compared to the nigger, which in the US has long been occupied by the NBA, but no one I haven’t heard of Negro mathematics, although discrimination has long ceased to exist, or rather, it has become inverse. And while the naked monkeys in Africa devoured each other, and the Chinese and the Japanese sat locked in their empires, even profounding Russian lands in the north (are you still afraid of the Chinese occupation of the Far East? The narrow-eyed had thousands of years to do this!).
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 21 June 2013 13: 51 New
      +1
      The Europeans sailed, even if they themselves did not really know where, but when they arrived, they put all the locals into the mines, or to grow some local reed.

      Russia, being a superpower in the 18th, early 19th century, as a result, fell far behind Europe, because it had no one to rob.
    2. viktorR
      viktorR 21 June 2013 15: 54 New
      +2
      Yes, you my friend is that Nazi))), but the facts are stubborn things. But where are those men with testosterone? Some gays are left ...
      1. Avenger711
        Avenger711 21 June 2013 18: 20 New
        -2
        I am not a Nazi, but a racist, because statistics and history confirm this. Feel the difference. And there’s nothing illegal about it; it’s illegal to urge someone to wet, which I don’t do.

        Homosexual testosterone, by the way, is the same. One way or another, but now a white man rules the world, and Asia cannot even offer anything culturally, in fact, as Asia has adopted European culture, it is adopting it. But not vice versa, for us their troubles are nothing more than exotic. The United States will leave, we will steer, even if we score a little on the neighbors. Russians are generally not inclined to teach others, they just do their job. But not China. Actually, he is now mainly engaged in merchandising; he is weak to go to conquer other nations. In Asia, there are no such crops. The Japanese seem to be belligerent, but beyond Korea never came to China, before WWII.
        1. riding
          riding 25 June 2013 12: 27 New
          -1
          There is no need to expose your ignorance of the history of world culture.
    3. Evrepid
      Evrepid 21 June 2013 15: 56 New
      -2
      A little distorted so that the peasants plow and feed those who will protect them.
      In Russia, what’s not a war, so immediately popular :)
      in reverse order:
      Chechen company - virtually all became a people's war
      World War II - popular
      World War I - popular
      1812 - popular
      etc.
      1. Evrepid
        Evrepid 3 July 2013 15: 51 New
        0
        That's interesting, but what's not true?
        the listed wars are not popular?
        It turns out that in the first, second, 1812 years it was only the military (the army was at war?), There were no partisans, there were no mass calls for war?


        So it turns out, in the opinion of those who put cons, that my grandfathers were not called up for war, and they, according to their desire, left one job at MTS, a second factory and it was not clear what they had been doing for 4 years, and returned one without organs, and the other a bunch of extra glands in the body.
        And, of course, the brave professional army that the peasants fed was at war with us!

        Yes, your deeds are wonderful, Lord! Tryndets some sort.
    4. Evrepid
      Evrepid 3 July 2013 16: 27 New
      0
      Cossacks, you wanted to say, went through Siberia, and the Cossacks are not Russian, in the sense that you invest in these words, although the Russian GEN R1a1a1 or R1a1b1 among the Cossacks is 65%.
      Ermak, in order for you, dear, to know nothing about Russian and speaks his name and face.
      Translated from Turkic "Veselchak", his physics is not "Russian" in any way, but more Tatar :)
      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%95%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA_%D0%A2%D0%B8%D0%BC%D
      0%BE%D1%84%D0%B5%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
      http://xn--d1abibfemykk0ay.xn--p1ai/%D0%9B%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0%20%D0%98%D0%BC%D0%B
      F%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B8/11
  31. _KM_
    _KM_ 21 June 2013 13: 31 New
    0
    Andrew-001, do not forget, but also live only past too.
  32. Constantine
    Constantine 21 June 2013 13: 32 New
    +5
    The author is well done. Put +.

    In our difficult time, when the brains of many are clouded by information scorers, you need to speak directly and without cuts, so that those who do not fully understand the topic, or who do not have time for this, have no illusions. I look forward to continuing :)
  33. My address
    My address 21 June 2013 13: 40 New
    +5
    The author still regretted Europe. And he could also describe unsanitary conditions among all segments of the population, starting with the current smelly cloacas under the window and ending with the lack of personal hygiene (see medieval literature). Could and make fun of the many arrogant kings with kingdoms, viewed from end to end with the naked eye. And there are many other "skeletons" in the European closet.

    Europe needs to keep quiet about its "glorious" past, the States too. And best of all, it’s best to spit over the left shoulder so that the foreseeable future does not become like the past.
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 21 June 2013 13: 51 New
      -2
      And in Moscow, the time of Ivan the Terrible, where did you go out of necessity? In water-closets?
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      2. stroporez
        stroporez 21 June 2013 15: 53 New
        +4
        and water closets, too ....... maybe I will surprise you, but the drainage system in Russia long before Grozny was ......
        1. Avenger711
          Avenger711 21 June 2013 19: 15 New
          -1
          http://www.s-b-s.su/uyutnyjj-dom/articles/repair/vse-o-remonte/istoriya-kanaliza
          cii-2 /

          Only then it became sad.
      3. viktorR
        viktorR 21 June 2013 16: 02 New
        +3
        Well, I don’t know where they went for need, but I think it’s definitely not for curtains like in Europe. Yes, and washed in the bathhouse, and therefore did not have to have special plugs to drive lice in a wig
      4. kind
        kind 21 June 2013 17: 57 New
        +5
        Imagine, in those days in Russia there were toilets, which were called-needed closets. In the king’s chambers there were ordinary night pots.
        See "Chronicles of Life in Russia"
  34. Sars
    Sars 21 June 2013 13: 42 New
    +4
    Why did the kings of France have three residences? The fact is that there were no toilets in the palaces !!! The gentlemen of the nobility "went about need" to fireplaces, for curtains and so on. The yard’s migration schedule was as follows: one residence was littered, two were washed.
    1. Raiven
      Raiven 22 June 2013 02: 52 New
      0
      Do not lie, there were special people who "wiped" the king and the hiring. slave. which were cleaned by wealthy citizens
    2. Motorist
      Motorist 23 June 2013 13: 31 New
      0
      Here ... Dumbheads. Well, what did these idiots stop the toilets from putting up and washing every week, huh?
  35. navy33
    navy33 21 June 2013 14: 00 New
    +3
    I welcome everyone! An interesting article, and most importantly almost prophetic, in the near future Europe is facing extinction, because They have LGBT priority, and they won’t be able to give birth to children, and we won’t give thanks to them. The Institute of Families is completely fucked up, and Islamization is in full swing. So, due to all these factors, there is only one conclusion.
  36. Hort
    Hort 21 June 2013 14: 01 New
    +4
    yes in general it is. In general, to be honest, I never completely understood (even though I have the education of an “internationalist”), HOW and WHY does any piece of land, peninsula have so much influence on the world and, most importantly, they listen to it? More precisely, this is what I understand (am technology and all that), but I don’t understand completely why the rest of the world plays by these rules))
  37. Danafxnumx
    Danafxnumx 21 June 2013 14: 34 New
    +1
    “It so burned that even the first firestorm in human history was recorded at the same time in Hamburg.”

    note of the author, the first fire storm was recorded in Japan in 1923, the reason for its occurrence was the Great Kanto earthquake.
  38. Nordwest
    Nordwest 21 June 2013 14: 49 New
    -4
    Somehow, it is necessary to prevent the outflow of population from Russia to ugly Europe. For this, there are authors such as Elderberry, who grew up under the influence of the KGB's idiological management. He asked a lot of questions at the beginning of the article, but he himself could not adequately answer. Much is simply absurd, it is impossible to build a house from a half-timbered building, it is not material or garbage. Fachwerk marks the structure, in architecture the structure is made of trunks, and there is also a structure in mechanical engineering, etc. If everything is so bad in Europe, why is so many refugees trying to go there. These articles are for those who, from envy of the West, have lost the opportunity to think.
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 21 June 2013 14: 54 New
      +4
      You do not take into account that many people come from Europe. For example, I renounced EU citizenship and accepted Russian citizenship. At the same time, I saw all of Europe because managed to live in Dublin and visit almost all EU countries. Of my famous people, I am not the only one, but in the EU I know many who happily repeated my actions, but so far cannot for various reasons, including family ones. The agent of influence here is more likely you, not the author.
    2. smile
      smile 21 June 2013 20: 29 New
      -2
      Nordwest
      Yes you give up. Your insinuations can only affect those who don’t know how people live there, how the young Europeans and the emigrant live, Or the faint-hearted people who have been there on holiday trips. :)))
      I don’t know under whose ideological management you grew up ... but you didn’t grow tall, the child obviously didn’t succeed .... I don’t know if you envy anyone, but what you don’t really think about is clearly seen your statement ... my condolences to your parents ... :))))
      1. Nordwest
        Nordwest 21 June 2013 23: 48 New
        +1
        Yes, perhaps in your eyes I’m not a successful “child”, this is your opinion. But if "failed" was a leader at the enterprise for many years, then who were hundreds and even thousands of my colleagues. I have managed to see quite a lot from Japan to America, and now I educate grandchildren in Europe, so I have nothing to envy. First of all, you don’t like that not everyone relishes reading cheap articles from different Buzins that have the main goal, everything is there Europe is disgusting, but here in paradise. Once we went through this, unfortunately, not everyone is able to draw conclusions.
        1. smile
          smile 22 June 2013 02: 53 New
          0
          Nordwest
          First of all, for some reason, I didn’t like your expression “relish” .... I do not question your words that you have outstripped thousands of colleagues ... stupidity in a certain field does not exclude success in another ... .. Unfortunately, your insolent lies about European realities make you incriminate in a lie ... by the way, we have something to talk about - Japan. My close friend is from Oita. Oita Prefecture ... what, you’ll be capricious and deny that they don’t have red banners everywhere in industrial shops with inscriptions that still look like our eighties? And in general, after Japan, do you have the audacity to bay on the Soviet system? ... please answer at least in Japan .... the topic is close to me :))))
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  40. konstant-danil
    konstant-danil 21 June 2013 15: 02 New
    +2
    After all, citizens capable of actions died in numerous wars, and in Rome itself there were only cowards and perverts, very reminiscent of our city alcoholics and drug addicts.


    ... or reminiscent of our officials
  41. Tartary
    Tartary 21 June 2013 16: 12 New
    +1
    Quote: Avenger711
    Russia, being a superpower in the 18th, early 19th century, as a result, fell far behind Europe, because it had no one to rob.

    It was precisely Europe that had nothing to rob, and Russia was most likely self-sufficient always ...

    What kind of talk at the level of knowledge of school history?

    Can anyone explain to me why, when the Russian troops are indignant at the imperial policy of Constantinople. repeatedly broke its impregnable walls, Europe did not have a historical essence?
    Where and by whom was she Europe?

    Byzantium disappeared to nowhere (why are you writing about Rome?), Why did Europe not take her place?

    Who took this place?

    If no one, then who taught Europe to write / poop? Who drove her?
    Really shkandylyala itself until the Middle Ages?

    Darkness and darkness are a hole in history ...)))

    At the same time, the "Renaissance" suddenly sets in during the reign of Ivan the Terrible ...

    Inquisition. Destruction of written media of historical facts. Icons destroy the traces of some empire, whose vassals they were all of Europe ...

    Literate Frenchmen, stunned, could not figure it out, and for several centuries swear kings in a Bible written in Old Russian ...

    The Germans are hastily changing the names of cities in tune with new dialects, and indeed with new languages ​​...

    Then the progressive Peter-1 ... Definitely a great emperor, but he still burns historical chronicles and imposes a European model, having lost, "not having noticed" his ...
    Not noticing whether ????
    It invites the inquisitors of pseudo-scientists from Europe to the newly created academy and allows you to create a history of Russia that is convenient for everyone, where the Tatars suddenly turned out to be Mongols and grunted Russia for centuries, although the cat wept for it - one blah blah blah ...
    Again, M. Lomonosov was already sharply against such an impudent lie.

    Questions, questions ....

    Will there be answers ?????????????
    1. Dovmont
      Dovmont 21 June 2013 21: 44 New
      0
      Something smacks of Fomenkovism!
  42. morpogr
    morpogr 21 June 2013 16: 16 New
    +3
    Now it’s clear how Europe solved the problem of overpopulation to adopt a law on same-sex marriage and no plague, no war, no need to degenerate themselves.
  43. djon77
    djon77 21 June 2013 17: 19 New
    +2
    I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING FROM THE WRITTEN. BUT I WILL NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING. WHY DOES THE GDP UNDERSTANDINGLY ACHIEVE A visa-free regime WITH THE EU AND THE EU CONSTANTLY REFUSES THEN THERE IS A BIG OPA?
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 21 June 2013 18: 09 New
      +3
      Against the background of deterioration of the situation there and improvement here, there is an option to lure good specialists. In other words, do with them what they did to us.
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 21 June 2013 18: 23 New
      0
      Quote: djon77
      I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING FROM THE WRITTEN. BUT I WILL NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING. WHY DOES THE GDP UNDERSTANDINGLY ACHIEVE A visa-free regime WITH THE EU AND THE EU CONSTANTLY REFUSES THEN THERE IS A BIG OPA?

      So it’s not trying very hard, since it’s still not achieved.
    3. agbykov
      agbykov 21 June 2013 18: 27 New
      +2
      Since the visa regime is discrimination, it is an inconvenience to our people who need to visit Europe for any reason.
  44. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 21 June 2013 17: 50 New
    +6
    Nordwest SU
    ... If everything is so bad in Europe, why then so many refugees are trying to go there. These articles are for those who, from envy of the West, have lost the opportunity to think.

    Lord, why envy? Can those who want to turn from a man or woman into IT envy? Or can one be envious of the fact that in a number of GAYPROE countries (and maybe in all) children are taken from their families without trial or investigation? Or look enviously at the fact that they eat GMO products? Or envy their pogroms, arranged by both “newcomers” and their own? Somehow, from the "drawer" I prefer to watch their "night fireworks", which are "extinguished" from the hoses and accompanied by "smoke-gas" curtains? I know people who left for Germany in the 90s so that children would receive a good education and be deeply DISAPPOINTED. And from music schools were generally in shock. Compared with the USSR, these are "circles" of interest. And if you want the child to really become a musician, you have to pay VERY big money! Or the fact that they are drowning in nature more and more every year? So why envy? .... as one "lady" sings: - "I did not understand ..."
  45. Motors1991
    Motors1991 21 June 2013 18: 02 New
    -4
    I don’t like Buzina, he pulls the facts and presents it as a comprehensive opinion. Yes, Europe was poor, but Europeans made the best weapons in the world, which ultimately resolved all issues. Here is a description of the relationship between Vasco da Gama and the Kojikodo Raja in India, Kozhikod Arabs whisper to the Raja : These ships are the vanguard of the war. Look what guns they have. The guns really give the Raja food for thought. He demands that the promised gifts be sent to him. The Portuguese delegation takes them to the palace. But before giving them the Raja, they inspect the gifts dignitaries. What do they see? Dozens of pieces of striped cotton fabric, half a dozen hats, half a dozen earthenware wash basins, half a dozen sugar heads. Such pathetic offerings at first cause bewilderment of the courtiers, then their thick bellies begin to shake from laughter. They even return gifts the poor Arab merchant does not dare to propose such a thing (Georges Blonne, Great hour of the oceans ,,). How did this story end, From yesterday the trial left in ragas, swinging in the waves around our caravels. The admiral, the captains and I, surrounded by armed guards, set off to inspect them. The ships are abandoned, no one is left., the caliber of the guns resolved the dispute in favor of the Portuguese, from that moment India turns into a colony. Europe becomes pacifist only for one reason, the caliber of guns does not allow to be conquerors, they lost this opportunity.
    1. Fin
      Fin 21 June 2013 21: 38 New
      0
      Quote: Motors1991
      Yes, Europe was poor, but Europeans made the best weapons in the world, which ultimately resolved all issues.

      Open your mind.
  46. Marek Rozny
    Marek Rozny 21 June 2013 18: 19 New
    +4
    Admins, post more articles by this author. Elderberry - well done. Clairvoyant man! And it is even more pleasing that this author lives in Ukraine, which means that there are adequate voices there, and not just the notorious Bandera people.
    1. FRIGATE2
      FRIGATE2 21 June 2013 22: 03 New
      -3
      Quote: Marek Rozny
      Admins, post more articles by this author. Elderberry - well done. Clairvoyant man! And it is even more pleasing that this author lives in Ukraine, which means that there are adequate voices there, and not just the notorious Bandera people.

      Marat to you minus. I do not see anything adequate in the article. It’s silly to judge from your bell tower
  47. SOUTH,
    SOUTH, 21 June 2013 18: 26 New
    +6
    I went to school in Czechoslovakia and graduated in Germany. "This is Europe" is all that I could say upon arrival in Germany, going out of the Leipzig railway station in 1979, then I went to the 7th grade.
    At the Leipzig fair held twice a year, I was able to see representatives of the countries surrounding the socialist camp, and their products say that it was amazing to say nothing. For the USSR, a separate pavilion was allocated at the entrance, to which I remember a huge bottle of vodka, if I am not mistaken, “Stolichnaya” (I never liked and didn’t really drink alcohol, so I don’t remember) and the empty pavilion inside with beautiful panoramas of Soviet factories was well remembered one, Norilsk Nickel. I can not say anything for the history of the development and formation of Europe, as I am fond of only alternative history. But then she made an indelible impression, which I have preserved even now. Germany is generally a separate powerful industrial cluster in the global economy, anyone knows if you want to buy a car you need to buy it in Germany. Houses in Germany serve for many years (and not only in it all of Europe preserves what they built), the quality of construction is the highest. I now design residential buildings and often use what I saw then among the Germans, and that I remember because I made an indelible impression. As for the fachwerk, this constructive solution without problems allowed to build tall houses in the city center from adobe, which is very inexpensive and safer in fire terms than the wooden cities of Russia. This technology is now widely used, transforming into frame construction, combining the three most important qualities inexpensively, quickly, and efficiently. And they continue to widely use the tree wherever possible. The forest is quickly restored with proper care, and in Europe it is skillfully looked after. There, the owners take care of everything, even the street in front of their house. I believe that some of the arguments of the author of this article are far-fetched and exaggerated, and some show the dignity and not the shortcomings of Europe. Anyway, it's worth judging by the results. And they are on the face.
    Yes, their past is rather dirty, but they have been ill with this and are now the cleanest, and we are so clean in the past, head over heels in shit now.
    The law of life says - With whom you will lead, from that you will pick up. Despite this, I believe that we should be in the customs union, since it is economically more profitable for Ukraine and we do not have a cultural barrier between the peoples, since we have been artificially divided (Lviv is a separate issue, this is not our land). From Europe we must adopt all the best, but for this it is not necessary to join the EEC our economy is an order of magnitude lower than them. And as Economics says, the threshold for entering a developed business is unusually high. Therefore, it is better to unite with peers, and together bring your economy to the European level, and even better to surpass them. In Europe, the market is oversaturated with high-tech goods, and we will remain with them only an agricultural appendage. I believe it is necessary to unite, pursuing only economic benefits and no politics. Although morality must be taken into account. We will never be our own in Europe. And no matter who once had an unwashed ass. The article contains nothing but the desire to crap a neighbor.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 21 June 2013 20: 17 New
      +7
      Quote: SOUTH,
      Yes, their past is rather dirty, but they have been ill with this and are now the cleanest, and we are so clean in the past, head over heels in shit now.

      And Syria is probably the last relapse of the disease? They have both a dirty past and a dirty present and a dirty future, such filthy people.
      Quote: SOUTH,
      There, the owners take care of everything, even the street in front of their house.

      Simple mathematics, one German takes care of one hundredth of the earth (roughly assessing), and one Russian ten ten hundredths.
      Quote: SOUTH,
      Homes in Germany Serve For Many Years

      Houses last longer (as well as roads) due to the mild climate, in Germany for twenty year frost-defrost cycles, and in Russia two hundred.
      1. SOUTH,
        SOUTH, 27 June 2013 10: 15 New
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        1) What does Syria have to do with it? The topic is not disclosed!
        2) Simple math? in our city, the mayor put things in order which probably never happened in the city, he simply forced entrepreneurs to clean up their shops. And fines the private sector. Also put things in order with cleaning roads and streets! They do not clean only in the steppe! No one forces revenge on mountains and valleys. Take out the garbage in front of your house.
        Come make sure at the same time you will have a good and inexpensive rest in Kerch.
        3) You are simply not careful! I am the constructor of ASG this industrial and civil construction. I know about freeze and thaw cycles. I won’t prove anything, just believe the specialist, I know what I’m talking about, I lived and saw it and put it into practice!
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 27 June 2013 13: 35 New
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          Quote: SOUTH,
          1) What does Syria have to do with it? The topic is not disclosed!

          Despite the fact that you have a wrong idea about the source of prosperity of the West. This is not "industriousness" at all, it is the industriousness of the Third World countries, which developed countries rob, imposing rules and laws favorable to the West. And the fate of those who resist is Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria and your words
          Quote: SOUTH,
          Yes, their past is rather dirty, but they have been ill with this and are now the cleanest, and we are so clean in the past, head over heels in shit now.
          not true.
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          2. SOUTH,
            SOUTH, 27 June 2013 14: 28 New
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            I didn’t say that they earned everything with their labor. And my ideas are correct. This is not about that. So excuse the source of wealth of Europe is not related to the article. Maybe you still argue for example about the punctuality of the Germans.
            Quote: Setrac
            not true.

            What exactly does not match? The fact that in our cities is dirt! Or the fact that they are clean?
            Quote: Setrac
            the fate of those who resist is Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria and your words

            And how did my words become the fate of the countries you listed.
            Conclusion: You have not made a single correct conclusion, especially with regard to construction, and otherwise you either cannot express your thoughts or you are too lazy to type the text.
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 27 June 2013 14: 40 New
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              Thieves, murderers and rapists cannot be clean, and this is the golden millard.
              No desire to be repeated.
              Quote: SOUTH,
              Maybe you still argue for example about the punctuality of the Germans.

              Punctual villains.
              1. SOUTH,
                SOUTH, 27 June 2013 18: 55 New
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                Quote: Setrac
                Punctual villains.
                And we are so white and fluffy nyashki!
                Serious argument!
  48. m.bad.5
    m.bad.5 21 June 2013 19: 16 New
    +2
    A normal article, much of what is written has a place to be.
  49. m.bad.5
    m.bad.5 21 June 2013 19: 19 New
    +1
    I agree with the comment by Marek Rozny.
  50. vdenisov56
    vdenisov56 21 June 2013 19: 43 New
    +4
    I look - many people calculate how many euros are in Europe, how many dollars are in the USA. I see that a lot. So why do they not burn their paper in thermal power plants and do not eat it in poppy donalds.
    Those who are eager for Europe, you need to understand that in the GaySoyuz west they can only sell prostitutes. They have neither raw materials nor technologies. And they won’t feed them for a long time - a crisis!