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Being Russian means being free

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Let's talk again about the Russian people. What else is there to say to a Jew with a Chechen? Or Tatar with Karel? Or Ossetian with Bashkir? About him, of course, about our great and complex Russian people. The theme is inexhaustible. And immense. But it seems that now, just recently, an understanding finally crystallized out who he was, Russian. And we hear, we read many clever and mutually complementary definitions.


Russian means city. Russia - Gardarika, the country of cities. Drevlyans, Krivichi, Vyatichi and others, taking off from the ground and leaving for the cities, became Russians. Cities Russian were able to put. For thirty days in a bare field could build a fortress. Russians have always been able and able not only to build cities, but also to equip city life, which is the life of the prince throne, state life; the adats and all the other delights of communal existence remain there, in the village.

This situation has been preserved and consolidated under the Soviet regime. Lithuanian Vilnius was a predominantly Russian city. Ethnic Lithuanians lived in the countryside. In Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and other Asian republics, large cities were inhabited by Russians, people lived without contact with the non-Russian part of the local population, saw Aboriginal people only in the bazaars and therefore knew only one phrase in the local language: “Too expensive”. And Grozny was a Russian city, despite the fact that by the end of the Soviet era many Chechens lived in it. Anyway, Russian. Because the city.

Russian means modern. It is spread in the air, and it seems that we have risen to a consonant understanding of who the Russians are and what the Russian people are. Russian is the level of civilization. High level. A Russian is a person who has risen above tribal prejudices, overcame narrow ethnic or regionalism. Ready to discover the world and discover the world. With a word or with a sword - as it is necessary. Russian is Alexander Suvorov. Russian is Leo Tolstoy. And Russian is Afanasy Nikitin, a merchant who spoke four languages, lived for many years in India, but with his heart and mind he was always attached to the Russian land. Because Russian is not a cosmopolitan. Open to the world, he does not lose roots. A Russian is one who, while preserving himself, has made a step into the Other space.

However, those who say wrong: there is no such nationality. Who says that the Russians are a mixture of all the blood, that the Russian people have no genetic basis. Stupidity. All nations were created as a synthesis, mixing, unification of different tribes, this does not exclude their new-found exclusive identity. At the level of instinct, intuition, and evidence, each of us understands that the Russian anthropological type exists. It can not be described in categories measuring the skull with a ruler, but it is. And we will always accurately determine, learn, calculate Russian in any environment. And not only us. All foreigners, natives, natives in the new colonialists recognize Russians, distinguish them from other white people. Yes, they are Russians and Udmurts. Because they see the truth. Those Udmurts who colonize the world became Russians. Udmurt Udmurts always remain in Udmurtia.

Before you open the doors to the outside, you must open the doors inwards. Before you go over the three seas conquistador, seeker, colonizer, you must become Russian - that is, free. Otherwise, remaining a Chechen, you can go to your America only as a refugee, refugee, ask for political asylum, because you are a Chechen and you are being insulted by the Russians. How did the family Tsarnaev. And sometimes it ends badly for everyone. Because it did not open to the world and the world did not open to you. So they remained strangers.

Russian is the responsibility for yourself and others. And Russian is freedom of choice. Russian can become a Buddhist. Russian can become a Muslim. Russian can afford it. Because it is a very strong basis - Russian. A Ingush can not become a Catholic. If he becomes a Catholic, he will cease to be an Ingush. If an Ingush wants to become a Catholic, he must first become Russian. Then he will be free and can become a Catholic or a Hindu. He can choose himself if he is Russian. If he is an Avar, he has no choice. Such is the reality of Eurasia. Only through the Russian opens the whole world.

But Russians also exist as an independent ethnos. With its own unique genetic code. And the Russian village, from which the waves are coming out of the Russian people, is a step to overcome and at the same time a century-old repository of the invincible Russian gene pool.

So, Russians are a unique ethnic community, with their own cultural identity, with their genetics, blood, and anthropological type. And the Russians are a degree of civilization, they are urban, modern, free, state, above and beyond ethnic narrowness. Two judgments contradicting each other. And yet - both true. There is no linear solution to this contradiction. Only together the two approaches are able to determine what the Russian people are. Just as the wave and corpuscular theory of light could only jointly describe its nature. Until quantum theory was formulated.

Ethnic and superethnic essence of the Russian people are united by one of its features. Statism. Statehood. Russian people - princely, sovereign, imperial, Soviet, that is, always - state. State resident, according to Andrei Platonov. He is a secret man. Russian is a state man. Not an inhabitant of the town, not a malicious separatist, not an economic interested. Russian is not just a holder of a Russian passport with a residence permit. Russian is mentally included in the Russian state history resident of the Russian state. That, if you will, is the “quantum” definition of the Russian people. But why does the Russian need the state so much? Is it because he is a slave, a slave, a masochist, always looking for a strict lady, with a bridle and a whip? Or vice versa?

Russian needs a state, because it is an ardent, unprecedented, pure individualist. He is free, free. Too free. Everybody was mistaken: both the populists and the westerners, who considered the Russian people committed to communal life, to collectivism. Some saw this as his virtue, others - a vice, and both were mistaken. There is no such individualist in the world as the Russian people. Therefore, he can conquer Siberia, and the whole world. But also ruin your own country. Raise it in pieces! Russian individualism in the absence of a strong statehood breaks apart Russian society. The Russians have a poorly developed “small collectivism”, so characteristic of a sweet Europe. Russians are sometimes unable to gather in the village and fill holes in the road or choose a good elder. The Russians are waiting for the state to come and fill the pits. Not because lazy. The Russians have given themselves to the state and rightly expect that the state in return will give everything to the Russians. This is Russian collectivism, "great collectivism," state.

Therefore, in Russia, socialism and collectivism can only be state-owned, and the present Russian state after the collapse of the monarchical project can only be socialist. It is not a question of partisanship, it is a fact. We can not have a municipal socialism of the European type, it will not work. And the capitalist, private-ownership, bourgeois-liberal and at the same time strong state is impossible in our country, it is equal in the Russian land to the absence of a state, the victory of chaos.

And if there is no Russian state, then damn it all, I will be my own master. Russian people will not live for small matters, for their village. A Russian man will go to Goa, chase the dark short people, build a bar and sit on the beach and wash their boots in the Indian Ocean. Sometimes coping, that there, in native Russia. Have we got the Russian state again? And is it not time then to return home.
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  1. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 21 June 2013 07: 41 New
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    Who are we Russians? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Sqm3zGztQ
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 21 June 2013 08: 23 New
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      Quote: tronin.maxim
      Who are we Russians?

      Maksim, hi ! Russian is Russian, that’s it. The article is a plus, for the author has opened his eyes to many Russians.
      1. Yashka Gorobets
        Yashka Gorobets 21 June 2013 09: 10 New
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        I understand that the author loves the Russian people very much, but the article is completely nonsense. What Russian means is urban, when before the beginning of the 20th century 85% of the population were peasants. Gardarik is not a self-name, so the foreigners called our land on which lived not Vyatichi, Krivichi, Drevlyane, meadow and other tribes not connected into a single people. And the people’s self-name is peasants, which came from Christians. It was when the people adopted Christianity, then he turned into a single great Russian people. And all the wonderful qualities of this people, which the author showed with great love in his article, were born in the people precisely thanks to Christianity. And until we recognize and accept this, we will have what we have. he who says that Christianity is the religion of slaves doesn’t understand anything in it. Christianity is the religion of freedom, because Christ freed man from slavery to sin. And now we are freed from Christ, and we have become slaves of dough, self-interest, envy, fornication, drunkenness and other abominations. .And until we understand this, we won’t have anything.
        1. Skarte
          Skarte 21 June 2013 09: 30 New
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          And now we have freed ourselves from Christ, and have become slaves of the dough, self-interest, envy, fornication, drunkenness and other abominations. And until we understand this we won’t have anything.

          Dear friend ... As I agree with you !!!
          Faith should be in the soul and expressed in deeds, no one needs to be imposed and engage in ostentatiousness. Nowhere should there be fanaticism, everything should be in moderation ...
        2. rereture
          rereture 21 June 2013 10: 18 New
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          Quote: Yashka Gorobets
          And the people’s self-name is peasants, which came from Christians. It was when the people adopted Christianity, then they turned into one great Russian people


          Not accepted, but imposed. The Slavic Magi, although respected, were also drowned in the rivers.

          And by the way, not baptized people went to Tsar Grad, but during feuds, baptized princes gnawed at each other's throats. Christianity is an alien faith in Russia, but faith in those old gods is still very strong with us, therefore we celebrate Shrovetide, Rainbow, the day of Ivan Kupala.

          lived not Russian and Vyatichi, Krivichi, Drevlyane, glade


          And together they were called Slavs, then Rusich from the word Rus.

          Quote: Yashka Gorobets
          self-name among the people - peasants


          Peasants - the population employed in agricultural production. For some reason, the boyars called themselves boyars, although they also seemed to be baptized.

          Quote: Yashka Gorobets
          Christianity is a religion of freedom, because Christ freed man from slavery to sin.


          What is sin? Everything in the world is relative, for example, going on an aggressive campaign, many crusaders really thought that they were doing the “will of God” by killing those who were not faithful who defiled the “tomb of the Lord”. Religion and religion can be turned as you like. And by the way, at the expense of drunkenness, is wine used for ceremonies in the church?

          Quote: Yashka Gorobets
          And until we understand it, we won’t have anything


          There was atheism in the USSR, look at what people have achieved. That was all.
          1. Skarte
            Skarte 21 June 2013 10: 48 New
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            Not accepted, but imposed. The Slavic Magi, although respected, were also drowned in the rivers.
            Did as time required. Religion was a powerful tool (institution) for uniting disparate tribes, the basis of the state, so to speak. It is not yet known from which tribe Shrovetide survived, etc. each tribe had its own gods. A single religion at that time was the main stage in the formation of statehood.
            There was atheism in the USSR, look at what people have achieved. That was all.

            I don’t argue, they achieved a lot, but the USSR was built not on clean land, but on what remained of the Orthodox Church.
            And by the way, at the expense of drunkenness, is wine used for ceremonies in the church?
            Wine is not drunkenness yet ... This drink is used in Catholic rites + unleavened bread (I don’t remember the name)
            1. rereture
              rereture 21 June 2013 10: 57 New
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              Prosphora) smile By the way, not only in Catholic) but also in Orthodox wink
              1. Skarte
                Skarte 21 June 2013 11: 08 New
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                Oh yes. At the wedding, it seems !? I don’t know anymore what
              2. sq
                sq 21 June 2013 11: 49 New
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                The Catholic is not prosphora, but cachet.
            2. rereture
              rereture 21 June 2013 11: 11 New
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              Quote: Skarte
              It is not yet known from which tribe Shrovetide survived, etc. each tribe had its own gods


              The gods were alone, only the supreme deity was different. Some tribes worshiped Veles, since cattle breeding or hunting were the basis of their survival, and at the same time they worshiped Perun, Chernobog, Svarog, Makosh and others.
            3. Nevsky
              Nevsky 21 June 2013 12: 28 New
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              Skarte

              I don’t argue, they achieved a lot, but the USSR was built not on clean land, but on what remained of the Orthodox Church.


              I agree, and here it is clear why:

            4. cdrt
              cdrt 21 June 2013 13: 23 New
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              Each tribe had its own god.

              Given that almost all the tribes that formed the Russian people are of Indo-European origin, the supreme gods are practically the same, accurate to local names.
              But small deities - "natural science" is already yes, in each tribe its own.
              But they sometimes survived to our days, despite the more than 1000 years of Christianity wink not really disturbing the feeling of unity
            5. DEfindER
              DEfindER 21 June 2013 16: 20 New
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              Quote: Skarte
              It is not yet known from which tribe Shrovetide survived, etc. each tribe had its own gods.

              The Russian tribes (those who lived on the territory of the Russian empire) had one main god Perun and the goddess Lada, well, many small gods, all this united the people under one faith, traditions and, therefore, the state.
              1. Day 11
                Day 11 21 June 2013 16: 28 New
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                Are you rover
                1. DEfindER
                  DEfindER 21 June 2013 17: 19 New
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                  Quote: Den 11
                  Are you rover

                  No, I am Orthodox, but this does not prevent me from knowing something from the history of pagan Russia.
          2. Yashka Gorobets
            Yashka Gorobets 21 June 2013 12: 25 New
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            Regarding the imposition. Read the history of your homeland, called "The Lives of the Saints in the Land of Russia Shone", and you will see that the first saints were princes and monks. The first adopted Christianity began to rule the people with such piety (which was not in paganism) that people wanted to imitate them and also adopted Christianity. And there was no mass persecution of paganism, otherwise it would have resulted in a civil strife and would undoubtedly have remained in history.
            Regarding princely civil strife, after the adoption of Christianity. People have remained sinful. Christianity does not automatically absolve from sin, but only gives the concept of sin and the power to fight it, and whether the person chooses to fight or not. And it was from sin that the Lord allowed the yoke Mongolian. And under the yoke there was so much betrayal and meanness when a brother went to his brother. And name at least one people who after that retained their identity. And the Russians survived, and survived only thanks to the church, which was the only one in the whole Russian space. And out of its bowels came St. Metropolitan Alexy, who raised St. Dmitry Donskoy. And St. Sergius of Radonezh blessed him and sent his monks Saint Alexander Peresvet and Saint Alexy Oslyabyu with him. And they were not saints because they defended their homeland, but because they lived godly. And Russia came out from under oppression by the Great Kingdom of Russia, and 2 / 3 Tatars became Russian because they became Orthodox. Find at least one such example in pagan history.
            And about history. Where did all this "knowledge" about how the pagan Rusich lived? Give at least one ancient source, they are not there. And all that is written is a remake, and a malicious remake, invented just by the enemies of Russia, who dream of dividing our country so that every village has its own god (remember Hitler).
            Well, as regards the USSR, they achieved something while the people were, at least in their hearts, Christian. And as they finally got rid of it, we have what we have. I grew up in a union and when I read the Gospel already in adulthood I was amazed that that it is full of places that I have heard since childhood in the form of Russian proverbs and sayings. And now they almost do not sound. And about the mysterious Russian soul, when was the last time you heard? I was twenty years ago, and before, everyone was just talking about it.
            Something like this. hi
            1. washi
              washi 21 June 2013 14: 53 New
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              The people adopted Christianity because Christianity was adjusted to our people. There are Armenian, Georgian, Albanian, Bulgarian, etc., but only in the Russian Orthodox celebrate pagan holidays: Pancake week, Apple saved, the day of Ivan Kupala, etc.
            2. DEfindER
              DEfindER 21 June 2013 17: 35 New
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              Quote: Yashka Gorobets
              The first adopted Christianity began to rule the people with such piety (which was not in paganism)

              Why do you think so? Pagan faith in Russia was based on the principles of human harmony with the world, society, and oneself, and this is not piety, and Christianity in Russia therefore transformed and took the form of Orthodoxy, becoming the most human form of Christianity in the world. And the Mother of God, who is revered among us even more than Christ, is taken from the image of the Lada of the fertility goddess.
              Quote: Yashka Gorobets
              But as regards the USSR, they achieved something while the people were, at least in their souls, Christian. And as we finally got out of arms, we have what we have.

              No one there people did not Christianize, he himself lived in the USSR, they all baptized, cleansed, people went to church. Just after the revolution, the dominance of Popov was removed, which ordinary people already hated, because there were a lot of churches, then with the decline in the number of believers in Soviet Russia, some of these churches were not in demand, and therefore they were rebuilt into something else, purely because of everyday necessity. Yes, and in the constitution of the USSR is practically the same as in the Orthodox teaching ..
          3. cdrt
            cdrt 21 June 2013 13: 20 New
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            That's for sure - in the USSR there was atheism and there was everything.

            Including tens of millions of denunciations (it was not Stalin who wrote them with Beria, but ordinary people).
            And the church itself was destroyed, and as it really peppered (WWII), so immediately the priests appeared in the official chronicle. As they say there are no atheists in the trenches.

            Who said there - if there is no God, then everything is possible - either Dostoevsky, or who else ...
            1. washi
              washi 21 June 2013 14: 57 New
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              An opinion appeared on the site - deleting "nonsense" comments. I did not understand what YOU said. I can’t delete you, but you can put a minus
            2. DEfindER
              DEfindER 21 June 2013 17: 44 New
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              Quote: cdrt
              And the church itself was destroyed

              Because the number of believers has decreased, people were building a new country and they had no time to visit temples. But no one forbade anyone, if you want to believe, if you want to, do not believe.
              Quote: cdrt
              and as it really peppered (WWII), so immediately the priests appeared in the official chronicle. As they say there are no atheists in the trenches.

              Well, actually the patriotism of our fighters for their homeland played the main role, but the priests certainly helped the same, but they were not a decisive factor in the victory.

              That's who the real SUPER-MEN is
              and on whom the Russian land will stand and stand:
          4. Valery-SPB
            Valery-SPB 21 June 2013 14: 48 New
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            And by the way, not baptized people went to Tsar Grad, but during feuds, baptized princes gnawed at each other's throats.


            Back in the XNUMXth century, a hundred years before the official date of the baptism of Kievan Rus, the Byzantine Patriarch Photius indicated in his letters the arrival of the Rus and the Bulgarians, noting that yesterday they were pagans, and now Christians.
            Alas, went to Tsar Grad baptized Rus!
        3. vadimN
          vadimN 21 June 2013 11: 03 New
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          Quote: Yashka Gorobets
          our land on which Vyatichi, Krivichi, Drevlyans, glade and other tribes not connected into a single people lived not Russians


          Allow me, sir, to object to you ... Calling Vyatichi, Krivichy and other RUSSIAN people - not connected tribes - this is nonsense. Almost the same as if we now called the Novgorodians, Muscovites, Samara, Tula, and others different nations.
          There is one ethnos, everything else is a link to geography, multiplied by an insufficient level of communication ...
          1. cdrt
            cdrt 21 June 2013 13: 30 New
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            Well, genetics :-) (a well-known selling girl) says that the colonization of the territory of the current European part of the Russian Federation, Belarus, Ukraine went in two ways and in fact two different Slavic peoples - one from the north from modern northern Poland, Pomerania, Prussia, the other from the south - from Carpathian "interfluve", the upper Danube.
            So, all the same, there were probably at least two peoples.
            In addition, it is unclear who the people who called themselves "Rus" were - either the West Slavic tribe, or the German one in general (possibly the remnants of the still Gothic wave of Germanization), or one of the North Slavic tribes. In history, there are names that are clearly different from other Slavic ones, according to excavations they are similar to either Western Slavs or Germans, but there is no consensus.
            So it’s right - different nations. And if you recall the number of subordinate Finno-Ugric tribes ... so it will be a complete mess wink
            1. washi
              washi 21 June 2013 15: 15 New
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              Slavic tribes lived on the Oder. This has been proven by modern Germans. THOSE. they are our inferior descendants (according to Rosenberg's racial theory)
          2. washi
            washi 21 June 2013 15: 12 New
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            Allow me, sir, to object to you ... Calling Vyatichi, Krivichy and other RUSSIAN people - not connected tribes - this is nonsense. Almost the same as if we now called the Novgorodians, Muscovites, Samara, Tula, and others different nations.
            And in fact?
            There are Maaskvichs, there are Siberians, there are Far Easterners, Caucasians. There are residents of the Pskov region who are given Estonian citizenship. There is a Kaliningrad region. which they tried to accept in the EU separately from the Russian Federation.
            I do not agree with a single ethnic group. A single ethnos - uniform orders, rules and psychology. This is not there. But it’s still possible to create it
        4. Atlon
          Atlon 21 June 2013 11: 04 New
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          Quote: Yashka Gorobets
          I understand that the author loves the Russian people very much, but the article is completely nonsense. What does Russian mean is urban, when before the beginning of the 20th century 85% of the population were peasants

          You understood too literally ... re-read again, and look at the root!
        5. urganov
          urganov 21 June 2013 12: 09 New
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          Just do not drag "Christianity". Here is a pancake, the priestly tribe. "Without us, Russians are not Russians." Ugh, trash avramistic, religious.
        6. cdrt
          cdrt 21 June 2013 13: 17 New
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          + to you. only you are more careful, now the local Rodnovers will come running and start shouting about the genocide and 100500 million Rusich killed during the Christianization wink
          1. Ruslan_F38
            Ruslan_F38 21 June 2013 13: 58 New
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            Article plus. It is surprising that a Chechen writes, but everything is correct.
            1. Hleb
              Hleb 21 June 2013 14: 34 New
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              it’s also surprising to me that you answer the person above. Can you be considered a Rodnover?)) or vice versa ..
              if you read the reviews of Chechens (including Kadyrov) about Saydulaev, then there will be nothing to surprise
              such an opinion http://maxpark.com/user/2227205126/content/550335
        7. FOX.
          FOX. 21 June 2013 14: 30 New
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          Quote: Yashka Gorobets
          .Namely when the people adopted Christianity, then he turned into a single great Russian people.

          Eco turned you! Do you think that it was Christianization that made us Russian ?! In my opinion, this is a critical fallacy and one does not have to have a degree in history in order to force oneself to look at this issue a little wider and deeper. If the Christian faith were the very catalyst for Russianness that you are talking about, now we would be like the rest of Europe, "thriving with all the colors of the rainbow." No, dear, the root of our spirit lies in the subconscious sense of truth and rejection of violence in any form from slavery to brainwashing. But the Russian people will not endure such an attitude towards themselves for a long time. That’s why the “Russian revolt” is terrible and incomprehensible for newcomers. Christianity teaches us something else: RESISTANCE TO EVIL BY VIOLENCE.
          I think it’s worth taking off the blinkers and looking back at the world around us, which I wish you from a pure Russian heart !!! hi
        8. DEfindER
          DEfindER 21 June 2013 16: 12 New
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          Quote: Yashka Gorobets
          It was when the people adopted Christianity, then it turned into a single great Russian people. And all the wonderful qualities of this people, which the author showed with great love in his article, were born in the people precisely thanks to Christianity.

          I do not agree, the Russians have always been a great nation, and religion has nothing to do with it, and the pagan religion before Christianity taught people even more good, such as living in harmony with nature and with oneself, which is not in Christianity. Well, at the expense of the unity of the people, on our territory there were much fewer civil strife than in any other corner of the world. In Europe in the Middle Ages there were only governors of our sovereign (you can read the letters of Ivan the Terrible to European kings, he didn’t count them for people there, and the language of communication between the countries was precisely Russian). And everything changed with Peter when he introduced serfdom, turning his people into slaves, while Europe was liberated from slavery just at that time. Actually the Pugachev uprising was a full-fledged war between the West and the East, in which Peter managed to defeat with great difficulty, and only thanks to the talent of Suvorov. But in the end, the population of the empire declined greatly during the reign of Peter, and Europe, on the contrary, strengthened and began to dictate its terms to us .. As always, our people can defeat anyone in a fair fight, but we could never do anything with the traitors ..

          There is no such individualist in the world as a Russian person. Therefore, he can conquer Siberia, and indeed the whole world. But also ruin your own country. Pull to pieces! Russian individualism in the absence of strong statehood tears apart Russian society. The Russians have poorly developed “small collectivism”, so characteristic of cute Europe, Russians expect the state to come and fill the pit. Not because lazy. The Russians gave themselves to the state and rightly expect that the state will give all of itself to the Russians in return. This is Russian collectivism, "great collectivism", state.

          Golden words
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          1. FOX.
            FOX. 21 June 2013 17: 29 New
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            Quote: Tao
            Christianity did not come with a wise word, but with a worthy deed, but on the blades of "princes".

            "+" !!! And it’s a pity that I can put only one! good drinks
    2. kvodrato
      kvodrato 21 June 2013 22: 44 New
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      The history of Russia or how they hid our past.
  2. cartridge
    cartridge 21 June 2013 07: 44 New
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    The Russian man will not live for small affairs, for his village.


    This is definitely noticed! Small scale is the destiny of small nations!
    1. Dart weyder
      Dart weyder 21 June 2013 08: 18 New
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      That’s the point, Majesty and creation is quite difficult for perception and awareness, and it is done quietly, not boasting about oneself, and not shouting about "petty, weak" or some other humiliating voices about others, and beat yourself sitting with his fist in the kitchen under a bottle is the lot of the weak - even if they are from a great nation - so comrades need to be more modest in business and not in word .... - then maybe we will achieve the desired result ... wink
    2. domokl
      domokl 21 June 2013 08: 32 New
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      Quote: cartridge
      ! Small scale is the destiny of small nations!

      But at the same time, Russia was and in many ways remains a country of villages. It is the village (well, at least small towns) that preserves Russianness and the mentality of the people. You must admit that Moscow can hardly be called the bearer of a true Russian mentality, and most large cities are in roughly the same position.
      We can solve problems on a global scale, as Chapaev said, and in our own local area in exactly the same way.
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 21 June 2013 13: 35 New
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        Moscow can hardly be called a bearer of a truly Russian mentality.


        Yes and no.
        Moscow is certainly not an example of a traditional way of life, but there are actually less than half of those born here, the rest are simply the most restless from all over the country (from the same small towns).
        Actually they set the tone for today.
        You can recall the scene from the "Siberian Barber" - a wall-to-wall fight during the Maslenitsa - traditionally Moscow fun was until the revolution.
    3. Sandov
      Sandov 21 June 2013 10: 16 New
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      But Russians also exist as an independent ethnos. With its own unique genetic code. And the Russian village, from which the waves are coming out of the Russian people, is a step to overcome and at the same time a century-old repository of the invincible Russian gene pool.

      That is why the Russian village is being destroyed. There will be no Russians, and Russia will not.
      1. Atlon
        Atlon 21 June 2013 11: 07 New
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        Quote: Sandov
        That is why the Russian village is being destroyed.

        Destroyed. In recent years, a lot has changed. I myself bought a house in the village. Many urban move to villages. Even Muscovites! There is a reverse process of exodus from the villages. The great exodus from the cities began.
        1. rereture
          rereture 21 June 2013 11: 14 New
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          I agree, finally, you can build a house in the village, equip it and spend all the "civilization" such as water supply, gas, satellite Internet (if a remote village), satellite TV.
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    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 June 2013 08: 28 New
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      Max, do you have a video that doesn't embed?
      1. tronin.maxim
        tronin.maxim 21 June 2013 08: 44 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Max, do you have a video that doesn't embed?

        Yes, the browser is buggy if you can delete 1 koment.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 21 June 2013 08: 56 New
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          Quote: tronin.maxim
          Yes, the browser was buggy

          I inserted a test video, it goes fine. You have problems
  4. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 21 June 2013 07: 46 New
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    There is something to ponder ..
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  7. Dart weyder
    Dart weyder 21 June 2013 07: 58 New
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    Hmm .... - "If the Ingush wants to become a Catholic, he must first become Russian. Then he will become free and can become a Catholic or Hindu. He can choose himself if he is Russian. "- ambiguously, in places, like nonsense .......
    It has long been said - Russian is a state of mind. - so why garden the whole village !? Krastko is the sister of talent. what request
  8. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 21 June 2013 08: 02 New
    +1
    It’s hard to argue anything ...
  9. Tartary
    Tartary 21 June 2013 08: 15 New
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    Quote: Dart Weyder
    Hmm .... - "If the Ingush wants to become a Catholic, he must first become Russian. Then he will become free and can become a Catholic or a Hindu. He can choose himself if he is Russian." - ambiguous in places like nonsense.......

    The thing is that not Russian, do not understand ...

    To understand - you need to become Russian, even if you are an Ingush ...)))

    However, G. Sadulaev understands this, even though he himself is rooted in Ingush or Avar, and maybe even a Dagestan ...
    1. Dart weyder
      Dart weyder 21 June 2013 08: 26 New
      +1
      Thank you for the translation, otherwise I wouldn’t have mastered it without you .... just if you think so - just become Russian, - here Gorbachev and Yeltsin, and many others - they seem to be ethnically Russian, from birth - and brought up in Russian families (Ukrainians or Belarusians - the same thing - one ethnic group, not counting Benderstad) - and what! ??? The family is not without a freak, or Exceptions only confirm the rule! ???? so in all the ranks of influence and leadership of such immeasurably! Why Russian Buddhism !? Or muhammadism - only to expand the circle of worldview - but at first it would be nice to fully recognize your religion - otherwise Wahhabis and others have bred, only a person with a completely accomplished worldview, the concept of good and evil, and strong moral principles can study someone else's - and there is a minority - so for now you need to figure it out with yourself, and put things in order in your hut - then you can talk about great things
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 21 June 2013 09: 40 New
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        Quote: Dart Weyder
        just if you think so - just become Russian,


        Did Stalin become Russian Georgians? Yes, of course, for he was to the core and bones a politician-statesman. This means that in order to feel like a Russian one must first of all become a PATRIOT-GOVERNMENT, for even a native Russian with the ideology of a free person of a "neocomad", for whom the Motherland and the Russian state is only a place to live and earn money, will never become RUSSIAN in the full sense of the word. Therefore, Stalin perfectly understood the role and the greatness of patriotism Russian people.
        Below the covers of books and pamphlets about the greatness of the Russian people came out in the period from 1938 to 1952, that is, when Stalin’s power in the USSR was almost absolute and the ideological line was completely formed by him and his inner circle.
        In our time, books with this name were recognized at best intolerant and even xenophobic and chauvinistic, not to mention their study and propaganda among the masses.



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  11. fisherman
    fisherman 21 June 2013 08: 26 New
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    yes plaque fly agree :)))

    Of course, we did not use such an important word for us as "Sobornost", but much was captured very accurately ...

    But also ruin your own country. Pull to pieces!


    to immediately start building a new creation, this nonsense is our reason for living :)

    I agree, from the outside it looks awful :))

    Russians sometimes are not able to gather in the village and fill up holes on the road or choose a good headman. Russians expect from the state that it will come and put holes in the pit. Not because lazy.


    and rightly so, we are building the State precisely for this, why do we need simple and prosaic decisions? What the hell are they for us? since we are only interested in non-standard, idiotic, ingenious (it’s possible that this is one and the same) solution, and the mandatory huge number of plans :)

    Berdyaev’s about the “middle culture” is well said that it (this very middle, or burgher, or simplified everyday culture) is not interesting to us, and this is our cross, these are all our past and future defeats and victories from this ...

    this Chechen is a very Russian Chechen :) well, say, intellectually or intuitively, but confirms many of the comments of our classics
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  12. domokl
    domokl 21 June 2013 08: 27 New
    +2
    I put a plus for the philosophical approach. A very controversial article. The Russian-urban ethnos, but right after a few paragraphs, the Russian village as a storehouse of gene pool. But this is probably more of a feeling than the logic of the author.
    By the way, an interesting fact is that Sadulaev is a Chechen, but he feels himself Russian. This is the answer to all our disputes and broken spears ... Russians are not only Slavs, they are those who feel Russian, who are Russian in spirit and in education.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 June 2013 08: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: domokl
      .This is the answer to all our disputes and broken spears ... Russians are not only Slavs, they are those who feel Russian to themselves, who are Russian in spirit and in education.

      That is, do you admit that there is such a Russian nation?
      1. domokl
        domokl 21 June 2013 08: 35 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        That is, do you admit that there is such a Russian nation?

        An interesting question .. But how can I not admit it, if I’ve only heard from everyone all my life, you’re Russian ... Although the Mordvin in my group always resented our ridicule, but for other children he was always Russian.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 21 June 2013 08: 47 New
          +2
          Quote: domokl

          An interesting question .. And how can I not recognize this, if I myself have only heard from all of you all my life, you’re Russian

          Yes, I would not ask you if you hadn’t written the last time .... hi
          1. domokl
            domokl 21 June 2013 09: 10 New
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes, I would not ask you if you hadn’t written the last time ..

            And what am I contradicting myself with? The author of the article, as you know, is just not Russian from Russians. As they say, he is a person of Caucasian nationality. However, read the comments and you will see that no one perceives him as a Caucasian, no one puts a second-rate Russian.
        2. Semurg
          Semurg 21 June 2013 10: 37 New
          +2
          Quote: domokl
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          That is, do you admit that there is such a Russian nation?

          An interesting question .. But how can I not admit it, if I’ve only heard from everyone all my life, you’re Russian ... Although the Mordvin in my group always resented our ridicule, but for other children he was always Russian.

          At 16, when they received passports from a classmate in the column nat. it was written Mordvin, he had a form of hysteria, for me he still remained Russian as he had positioned himself before, but Russian classmates began to poison him although before that he was his own (he changed school later) So I think small Finno The Ugric peoples are Russified and can be safely considered Russian.
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 21 June 2013 13: 41 New
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            it’s some kind of rarity. I haven’t encountered anything like it. We had four Germans in the class, a Chechen, a Greek, a Pole, a Lithuanian, two Kazakhs, a Chuvash, Urains, Belarusians, Russians ... but this was never the reason for the persecution
            1. Semurg
              Semurg 21 June 2013 18: 29 New
              +1
              Quote: Gleb
              it’s some kind of rarity. I haven’t encountered anything like it. We had four Germans in the class, a Chechen, a Greek, a Pole, a Lithuanian, two Kazakhs, a Chuvash, Urains, Belarusians, Russians ... but this was never the reason for the persecution

              Maybe if you knew from the first grade that he was a Mordvin, it wouldn’t have happened, and he always said that he was Russian, and that you probably wouldn’t deny that the persecution would begin for various reasons?
  13. Ruslandeth
    Ruslandeth 21 June 2013 08: 31 New
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    Thanks to the author for the article. Human thanks. Although some points can be perceived as subtle trolling, thanks anyway.

    hurts the soul and allows you to better understand yourself and others.

    What is not the basis for a national idea? everything is simple. sovereignty
  14. mogus
    mogus 21 June 2013 08: 31 New
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    Quote: tronin.maxim
    Who are we Russians? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Sqm3zGztQ

    Probably so
    1. domokl
      domokl 21 June 2013 08: 38 New
      +2
      This question is especially relevant in the Kuban, where most brunettes ... Why did the Slavs become brunettes ... Russians are primarily the soul ... This is the worldview and attitude towards life ...
      1. mogus
        mogus 21 June 2013 08: 48 New
        -1
        I just asked Yandex about the link "tronin.maxim" and inserted a video that was issued upon request ...
        Why do they turn black? In general, the body tends to adapt to the conditions.
        1. domokl
          domokl 21 June 2013 09: 14 New
          +2
          Quote: mogus
          the body tends to adapt to the conditions.

          laughing Well then, I understand why a Caucasian feels like a Russian laughing He is like that because the body has adapted to the conditions ...
          And that means that our ardent friends and enemies are right, we are all Russian .. We just don’t understand that ourselves ...
          1. mogus
            mogus 21 June 2013 10: 11 New
            +3
            Genes
            frost resistance
            found in
            Siberians

            Cambridge
            researchers
            found
            у
            indigenous
            Siberians positive
            selection
            genes
            allowing you to survive in terrible cold. British genetics studied
            DNA samples of 200 people being
            representatives of 10 indigenous peoples of Siberia. Scientists have analyzed the distribution of gene alleles in order to identify options that have become the subject of positive selection. As a result, they identified three genes, variants of which are presented in the native inhabitants of Siberia: PRKG1, UCP1, and ENPP7. The UCP1 gene was previously known - it was discovered when studying the genetic characteristics of Teleuts. This gene encodes a protein that causes mitochondria to produce heat. PRKG1 is involved in the process of smooth muscle contraction, which is important in thermoregulation: trembling and narrowing of blood vessels reduces heat loss. The ENPP7 gene is involved in fat metabolism. According to researchers, this gene helps people living in severe cold, absorb fatty animal foods. The “frost-resistant” versions of these three genes are distributed differently among the northern and southern Siberian peoples. Thus, alleles of the UCP1 gene were predominantly selected from the inhabitants of Southern Siberia, and the peoples of Central and North-Eastern Siberia preferred the PRKG1 gene. The third gene - ENPP7 - is distributed throughout Siberia.

            http://globalscience.ru/article/read/21638/
            More or less like this :)
  15. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 21 June 2013 08: 39 New
    +1
    Dart weyder
    ... - Russian is a state of mind.

    I absolutely agree with you! And if a Russian is a man, no matter where he is, he is SICK for Russia with his soul! And I know that people living outside the country, even watching sports competitions, cheer for Russian athletes, the blood is boiling!
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 21 June 2013 10: 02 New
      +4
      Quote: ia-ai00
      I absolutely agree with you! And if a Russian is a man, no matter where he is, he is SICK for Russia with his soul! And I know that people living outside the country, even watching sports competitions, cheer for Russian athletes, the blood is boiling!


      For 20 years there has been talk of how terrible everything was in the USSR and in today's Russia. In the brains of young people it was postponed! And a child, on the contrary, needs to be told from childhood that he lives in the best country in the world, that he has something to be proud of. And in relation to Russia this is more than fair: a country with an amazing history, achievements - both scientific and cultural! And we are forced to equal Portugal. I remember telling such a story, met in one of the divisions of the Strategic Missile Forces the US Inspection Commission under the START treaty. And so, at the next inspection of the APU, one of the "Yankees" began lovingly stroking it as an expensive car, the dream of a car enthusiast's whole life, or even as a beloved woman. When asked why he does this, he answered "I admire this technique. You yourself can’t imagine what kind of weapon you possess.". So we have something to be proud of!
      We just need to remember that we are a great nation, not a developing third world country, but a great power with a great history, culture, traditions.

      Memories inspired by this clip

    2. Semurg
      Semurg 21 June 2013 10: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: ia-ai00
      Dart weyder
      ... - Russian is a state of mind.

      I absolutely agree with you! And if a Russian is a man, no matter where he is, he is SICK for Russia with his soul! And I know that people living outside the country, even watching sports competitions, cheer for Russian athletes, the blood is boiling!

      I am a fan of the Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian clubs in the Champions League and Europa League draws, as well as in all the championships, do I mean Russian-Belarusian Ukrainian?
      1. smile
        smile 21 June 2013 12: 47 New
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        Semurg
        Come on ... don’t cling to the example given by ia-ai00, this is just an example.
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 21 June 2013 13: 07 New
          +1
          Hello Vladimir! Why didn’t you join our topic yesterday? Defended your position against everyone. Without visible results. I stayed with my own. They called me a Nazi, funny. One slogan (We are the most ...) in my head
          1. smile
            smile 21 June 2013 13: 48 New
            +1
            Day 11
            Hello!
            Yes, I didn’t go to the site tomorrow. Time is running out - so. I’m trying to snatch a couple of hours ... it’s almost always and for a long time here on Friday-Saturday ... I haven’t even looked at yesterday’s articles ... here. I’m sure to read it, but afterwards.
            And about the Nazis ... you know, in principle, I do not always agree with you on the subject of the Luftwaffe asss, and maybe I would also be against you :))))) ... but I would never have been like that named because I am reading your comments on other topics :))) I think that perhaps you just need to slightly adjust the form of submission of the negative for us :))) information and no one would brand you, you probably - with an ax and the truth uterus ? :))) I even regret that I was gone ... nothing - what our years are, I bet more! :))))
            Ok don't be upset
        2. Semurg
          Semurg 21 June 2013 13: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: smile
          Semurg
          Come on ... don’t cling to the example given by ia-ai00, this is just an example.

          Yes, I don’t cling. I write as I am a fan of the Russians and the broadcasts go late in 1-30 places. Time and even on weekdays Tue. Wed. -then really with a cast-iron head to work, so I think maybe we are all Russians of different nationalities (though they refuse to me as black-mu)
          1. smile
            smile 21 June 2013 13: 55 New
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            Semurg
            Come on, how black you are ... :))), you won’t tell by the comments! :))))
            By the way. I have a rather well-known black ... my last name (Vainakh), although outwardly I am a typical Slav ... but strangers who hear it often fall into a stupor or start to be wary :))), but no one is ever black .. . m did not name. Nowhere and never. But contemptuously Russian - as much as you want ... all your life. And not only in Lithuania. So, don’t be offended by black ... go - there are enough idiots everywhere.
  16. treskoed
    treskoed 21 June 2013 08: 51 New
    +5
    For me, "RUSSIAN" is the son of RUSSIA! Who will call Vladimir Dahl, non-Russian, the compiler of the Explanatory Dictionary of the Living Great Russian Language? But he did not have Russian blood - from the Russified Danes, not even Ivanovich, but Johannovich! And the language will not turn to call Russian those who betray and trash the Motherland, even if it has an ancient pedigree!
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 21 June 2013 10: 55 New
      +4
      Quote: treskoed
      For me, "RUSSIAN" is the son of RUSSIA! Who will call Vladimir Dahl, non-Russian, the compiler of the Explanatory Dictionary of the Living Great Russian Language? But he did not have Russian blood - from the Russified Danes, not even Ivanovich, but Johannovich! And the language will not turn to call Russian those who betray and trash the Motherland, even if it has an ancient pedigree!

      I completely agree with this koment, otherwise the genes start by cutting off the blood of all foreigners, although in fact they are more often more Russian than Russians from mom and dad
      1. smile
        smile 21 June 2013 12: 53 New
        +1
        Semurg
        And here I agree with you. An attempt to divide into pure and not very good will not end. They shared it here ... finished it ... if you take into account my genes, then I’m really someone ... but if someone calls me a foreigner - he himself will forget what nationality he is ... :)))))
  17. sapsan14
    sapsan14 21 June 2013 08: 55 New
    +5
    I don’t remember who I took from. Maybe someone is interested:

    "... However, the Russians themselves are well aware of who the Russians are - even if it is sometimes difficult for them to verbalize. I will quote an article from the journal" Domestic Notes "(No. 4, 2004). Teacher Eidelman writes in his article:

    “Over the years of work at school, I have repeatedly paid attention to some features of the use by my students of two completely harmless personal pronouns of the plural,“ we ”and“ they ”. I will not hide, the meaning that they sometimes attach to these words inspires me with serious concern.

    Here is a typical example known to all teachers. Talking about any war in which Russia participated, the guys almost always use the pronoun “we”: we defeated the Germans near Stalingrad, we defeated Napoleon, we defeated the Swedes near Poltava ... This, in any case, can at least somehow be explained, but is that what the words “we defeated Shamil”, “we annexed Kazan”, “we defeated the Tatars in the Kulikovo field” mean? And it’s absolutely amazing: “we defeated the Khazar Kaganate”, “we traded with the Vikings” ...

    In the imagination of children across the expanses of mother Russia, at all times and eras, these mysterious "we" march. ... And here's what is interesting - in textbooks, which mainly form such a perception, they never write like that. Everything is laid out carefully: not “we” are fighting, but the Eastern Slavs, or Prince Svyatoslav, or the Moscow army, or the army of Peter the Great. But for some reason, my students are absolutely sure that all these fighting people, many of whom upon closer acquaintance would have seemed to them not just strange, but completely alien, in fact, we don’t care. ”

    Then Tamara Natanovna offers a program to combat this very “we”; but in the context of the conversation, it’s much more interesting that modern children (school, 2004), attacked from all sides by liberalism, internationalism and other “universal values,” instinctively understand and accept Russians as “us” ... "
    1. Dart weyder
      Dart weyder 21 June 2013 09: 38 New
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      Then Tamara Natanovna offers a program to combat this very “we” - in my opinion it is necessary not with the pronoun "we", but just the same with this Tamara Ivanovna to fight sad
    2. baltika-18
      baltika-18 21 June 2013 10: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: sapsan14
      but in the context of the conversation, the fact that modern children (from all sides attacked by liberalism, internationalism and other "universal values") instinctively understand and accept Russians as "we" is much more interesting.

      Let’s recall Russian folk tales. Where does the main character go? For distant lands, to the kingdom of the fifties. Why is it going? Of course, for the princess, the royal, the wise, the beautiful. With whom is she fighting on the road? With the three-headed snake, all sorts of monsters, in modern language with superior enemy forces. Winning? Of course, otherwise why go.
      This is our mentality, that is all of us.
    3. sq
      sq 21 June 2013 12: 16 New
      +1
      But for some reason, my students are absolutely sure that all these fighting people, many of whom upon closer acquaintance would have seemed to them not just strange, but completely alien, in fact, we don’t care. ”
      Then Tamara Natanovna offers a program to combat this very “we”; but in the context of the conversation, it’s much more interesting that modern children (school, 2004), attacked from all sides by liberalism, internationalism and other “universal values,” instinctively understand and accept Russians as “us” ... "

      It is necessary to fight with such Tamara Nathanovna. The word WE means a lot, it means unity, CATHEDRAL, if I may say so. Unlike the gay self, which exalts pure individuality, the word WE means, as it is philosophically, a collective conscious or unconscious, it does not matter. The important thing is that the whole west is afraid of this WE and is trying to break it, tear it into small ones. Well, WE should not allow this.
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 21 June 2013 13: 47 New
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        ... I-we ...
        I remember Klyuchevsky described the Russian character as "Three A - Avos, Avral, Artel".
        He saw the reasons under the economic conditions in the North-Eastern part of the East European Plain (i.e., the place of formation of the Great Russian ethnos).
  18. Galinanp
    Galinanp 21 June 2013 09: 32 New
    +1
    Russian is a responsibility for oneself and others. And Russian is a freedom of choice. Russian can become a Buddhist. Russian can become a Muslim. Russian can afford it. Because it is a very strong foundation - Russian. And Ingush cannot become a Catholic. If he becomes a Catholic, he will cease to be an Ingush. If the Ingush wants to become a Catholic, he must first become a Russian. Then he will become free and may become a Catholic or a Hindu. He can choose himself if he is Russian.
    I do not agree. The choice of religion is a worldview choice. The worldview of the whole nation is, in sum, the worldview of an individual person making up this people, with a scanty exception. So the worldview of the Russian people as a single people was made more than a thousand years ago. Whether you want it or not, the foundation of the main part of the Russian people, in the worldview, is Orthodoxy. And the idea proposed by the author paints a picture of a fragmented people into parts, which means they are in constant conflict because of the difference in worldview. But the Russian people are one, and with the help of God will always be one.

    Russian means urban. Russia - Gardarika, a country of cities. Drevlyans, Krivichi, Vyatichi and others, being removed from the earth and leaving for the cities, became Russian. Russian cities were able to set. For thirty days in a bare field could build a fortress. Russians have always been able and able not only to build cities, but also to equip city life, which is the life of the princely throne, state life; the adates and all other charms of communal being remain there in the village
    Throughout history in Russia until the 70s of the twentieth century, the bulk of the people are residents of towns and villages.
  19. Valery-SPB
    Valery-SPB 21 June 2013 09: 38 New
    -1
    Russian means city. Russia - Gardarika, the country of cities. Drevlyans, Krivichi, Vyatichi and others, taking off from the ground and leaving for the cities, became Russians. Cities Russian were able to put. For thirty days in a bare field could build a fortress. Russians have always been able and able not only to build cities, but also to equip city life, which is the life of the prince throne, state life; the adats and all the other delights of communal existence remain there, in the village.


    The census of Russia in 1897, the first and only, established the presence of over 80% of the peasant population. What happened before? request And before there was a Russian “Ruhr” under the control of the local “Krupp”, as the author claims hi
    The nature of the formation of cities is economic. Put on trade routes. They traded there, they robbed there!
    They didn’t set cities, but cities sprouted up to meet the needs of the authorities, near the children of princes and the Kremlin. And sometimes by forced settlement of workers.
    This is all from the Gardariki period.
    And later the cities were set! By decree of the royal or imperial. Why drove thousands and thousands of bonded, hundreds and more killed, with their bones laid down the foundation pits of future palaces.
    And there were Cossack towns! Well, that’s easy!
    And there were buildings in place. At the duty station. The estates in which the landlords, read the landlords, lived surrounded by people in a forced fortress, read the serfs!

    PSHistorics say that the Ryma warriors, for safe nights on a campaign, broke up a bivouac for the night, having dug up the temporary settlement with a moat and a fence from tree trunks. For the night! In a few hours!
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  21. Igarr
    Igarr 21 June 2013 10: 03 New
    +5
    Hello to all the natives, natives, (Tuareg, oh) and autochthons.
    We are local, Russian - it means natives.
    This is us in Uzbekistan, let's say - Russians. And here, in Russia - we are natives.
    .
    Joking jokes, but I liked the article.
    Even the excesses, surprisingly small, also liked. Accent rather.
    .
    To the author, German Sadulayev, my respect.



    PS. They got attached to the "cities" ... Yes, at a time when there were cities-and-fortifications in the country of the River City .. in Western Europe there were badly organized, half-dead farms.
    And do not tell me about the lies of the Renaissance.
    Not the Renaissance, it was - but the Birth. Ancient Roman Empire. In the minds and writings of the then-and then liberals.
    Drive into a search engine - falsification of history. And enjoy it.
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 21 June 2013 10: 15 New
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      Quote: Igarr
      And do not tell me about the lies of the Renaissance.
      Not the Renaissance, it was - but the Birth. Ancient Roman Empire. In the minds and writings of the then-and then liberals.

      Plus, Igor. There is nothing to add.
  22. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 21 June 2013 10: 30 New
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    AsceticU: Thank you for the video plot! My heart skips a beat with delight for the military power of Russia and respect for the men who stand guard over Russian borders!
  23. krez-74
    krez-74 21 June 2013 10: 34 New
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    I will not voice the opinion of a Russian about Russians ...
    Article minus! I know the author, and pursues only his goal, we will not talk about it.
    Russians are bright and very clean people, capable and talented, extraordinary! An example of how the Russians brightened Christianity is that Western nations profess by no means light Christianity.
    BUT! The Russian people have one quality, I do not know if it is bad or good. It must be guided, and often this happens, history shows it. It is a pity that often, he is sent not for the very good. Russians have no ability to clearly build their goal, go to it and defend it.
    This is my truth, and I think she will not offend anyone!
    1. dmb
      dmb 21 June 2013 11: 47 New
      0
      Your truth certainly will not offend. Although I can not completely agree with her. I cannot agree that professed Orthodoxy is much "brighter" than say Catholicism. One of the Islamic movements (Ismailis) has the thesis: "Love your faith and do not condemn others." For all the ambiguity of this trend, the thesis is true in my opinion. The point is not so much in faith as in the form of the realization of her ideas. I think so. that each of us had to deal with such "Orthodox" that any decent person would like to strangle them, regardless of his confessional affiliation. As for the author, it would be interesting to hear your opinion about his motives and goals. For the further continuation of the discussion is possible only after acquaintance with this opinion.
      1. krez-74
        krez-74 21 June 2013 12: 14 New
        +1
        The motives and goals of it can be learned from his works ... It is very long and difficult to explain. Not only that, one must know the mentality of the Chechen people (the author is a Chechen), and real historical facts from what happened and is happening in the Caucasus, the relations between peoples. I live in the Caucasus, it’s a little easier for me.
        I do not detract from the talents of the author, but in many ways I do not agree with him.
        1. dmb
          dmb 21 June 2013 12: 37 New
          +2
          Sorry, but I didn’t hear the answer. The fact that the author is a Chechen, I know, moreover, he is my fellow countryman, and accordingly about the mentality and the real historical facts, I know not by hearsay, but also about the relations of peoples. That is why I roughly imagine what exactly you are not comfortable with in Sadulayev’s works, but I don’t discuss it because I’m used to doing it objectively. We are not talking about his work, but his assessment of you.
          1. krez-74
            krez-74 21 June 2013 13: 04 New
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            My assessment of his work is inappropriate, as it is single. The majority of readers will give her an assessment.
            As for the historical facts of the relationship between peoples, especially the peoples of the Caucasus, among themselves and with others, it is rather ambiguous! Some people living outside the Caucasus think that we are Caucasians, cannibals and villains. Others are sure that all Caucasians are the same, and this is the most serious error!
            As for what personally doesn’t suit me in Sadulayev’s works, everything is simple here - the Vainakh “flexibility” doesn’t suit you when it is necessary and profitable! An example of Imam Shamil (he is not Vainakh, but still), at the moment when he was pressed, he proudly surrendered! But he called relatives and co-religionists to the war until his last breath ... Then he lived happily retired from the tsar, attached his sons, educated in Russia, went to Mecca for pilgrimage ... Here is Imam Shamil, this is the most accurate type of Vainakh behavior!
            1. dmb
              dmb 21 June 2013 19: 04 New
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              I think that you are not quite right. This is not about Sadulayev, but about the “Vainakh flexibility”. I know a lot of Chechens who, unlike the really “flexible” Kadyrov, firmly believed that we were citizens of one country and should live as one family. They fought for this faith with the Russians against the same Kadyrov. There are those who in Soviet times believed that we were enemies, they fought and fight against us. They are certainly enemies, and they must be destroyed, but they cannot be denied a certain respect. And there are Kadyrov and Udugov, Putin and Yeltsin, Gorbachev and Svanidze. They are ordinary shifters. As long as there is power above them, they lick to it all the places that they reach. Dropping to power, they are happy to allow themselves to be licked. And “vainakhstvo” has nothing to do with it at all.
      2. cdrt
        cdrt 21 June 2013 13: 57 New
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        It is ridiculous that this phrase sounds among the Ismailis ...

        This is a sect, from one of its self-names (assassins) the name of the political killer was born in English - the assassin.
    2. Atlon
      Atlon 21 June 2013 12: 02 New
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      Quote: krez-74
      Russians have no ability to clearly build their goal, go to it and defend it.

      Of course ... The Russians did not have a goal to build a fleet, defeat the Swedes and Turks. Then there was no purpose to defeat Napoleon. The men of the serfs did not have the goal of driving French troops through the forests ... Then the Russians again had no purpose of industrializing their country. There was no purpose to defeat Hitler. Gagarin flew completely aimlessly into space. Walking without a goal, they built a hydrogen bomb ... Having no goals and not knowing how to go to them, they built the Dnieper, Magnitogorsk, BAM. They rebuilt a country destroyed by war without purpose ... And all that jazz ... How can it be? Explain to me Russian, are you our non-Russian?

      Quote: krez-74
      BUT! The Russian people have one quality, I do not know if it is bad or good. It must be guided, and often this happens, history shows it. It’s a pity that often, it’s not sent to the very good

      As for this thesis, so here is what I tell you. It is impossible to direct the Russian people otherwise than by offering him an IDEA! The idea is ambitious, overwhelming, complex. the only way, and no other way! It’s not interesting for a Russian to wash the entrance; he is interested in flying into space! As for "not very good," I would like to clarify what exactly you mean?
      1. krez-74
        krez-74 21 June 2013 12: 51 New
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        Why are you too aggressive against me laughing Not only that, you show it too zealously ...
        Re-read all my comments first, and only then draw conclusions, now you have them wrong!
        And at the expense of the last, yours, you can fly into space leaving a clean entrance!
        1. Atlon
          Atlon 21 June 2013 14: 04 New
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          Quote: krez-74
          Why are you too aggressive against me

          Not at all. smile

          Quote: krez-74
          and only then draw conclusions, now they are wrong with you!

          Boldly! laughing

          Quote: krez-74
          Others are sure that all Caucasians are the same, and this is the most serious error!

          really? But you made up your “correct” opinion about the degradation of the Russian people, with just a few statements on the net?

          In general, you would need to temper your ardor with the distribution of other epithets, and assessing someone else's opinion as "wrong." I read your comments very carefully. In addition to the incredibly huge conceit, I did not notice anything ... A couple more posts, and you will become completely uninteresting. However, hypertrophied conceit is peculiar to Circassians. I know, a couple of times I rested in Adygea. Not the most pleasant people in communication ...
          1. krez-74
            krez-74 21 June 2013 14: 22 New
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            Do not like it, but went on vacation ... It's funny!
            I don’t have high self-esteem, it’s just underestimated by you personally, so you see around enemies and enemies! You along the way, do not even read my answers to you, and do not delve into it at all. This respected is no longer funny, it is hopeless!
            Good luck to you!
            1. Atlon
              Atlon 22 June 2013 08: 19 New
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              Quote: krez-74
              Do not like it, but went on vacation ... It's funny!

              The nature of Adygea is beautiful and distinctive. Why not take a trip to Guzeripl or Lago-Naki? Just because there is a peculiar people? So I went there not to communicate with the locals, but with nature! So keep your saokazm to yourself. And about my "low self-conceit", not for you to judge. However, with this statement, you confirm what I said. And in general, you are more like not a Circassian, but a militant Zionist. The rhetoric is the same, and God's chosen people are there ...
      2. smile
        smile 21 June 2013 13: 23 New
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        Atlon
        Yeah, I’ll add more. that it was on an initiative basis, with minimal state support and without any instructions, that the Russians mastered Siberia and built the first rudiments of industry there. Moreover, they did not create their semi-gangster princes there, built on the robbery of local peoples, trying to quickly separate themselves from their state, as some Circassians would do, but multiply and defend the borders and interests of Russia ... themselves. without any indicating power, based on the dictates of his soul, and not someone else's stick.
        1. krez-74
          krez-74 21 June 2013 13: 58 New
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          In the development of the spaces of Russia, all nations participated! As for the Circassians, to the strengthening of the Russian state, they participated sufficiently, the facts confirm this! Do not be lazy: http: //www.e-reading-lib.org/chapter.php/73437/31/Shokarev_-_Taiiny_r
          ossiiiskoii_aristokratii.html

          And more: http: //www.bibliofond.ru/view.aspx? Id = 511665

          Specialist damn it!
          1. Atlon
            Atlon 22 June 2013 08: 22 New
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            Quote: krez-74
            In the development of the spaces of Russia, all nations participated!

            Indeed? laughing Explain what percentage of Circassians was in the "troops" of Ermak? Or in construction teams on BAM? Or how many Circassians raised the virgin lands? I don’t argue, of course they were, but compared to the titular nation, such an insignificant part that does not go beyond the statistical error.
    3. smile
      smile 21 June 2013 13: 16 New
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      krez-74
      I actively disagree with the fact that:

      “It needs to be directed, and often this happens, history shows it. It’s a pity that often it is not directed at the very good. Russians have no ability to clearly build their goal, go to it and defend it.”

      What fright did you get this from? The degree of freedom and self-organization of Russians has always been very high! Look at the amount of our land, almost half of which has been developed on an initiative basis. No "direction" would help if it were not for the initiative and unique ability to self-organize the Russian people. Here, indicate, than Caucasians, Central Asians, Chinese. Germans, etc ... is better in this regard?
      You just have nothing to say. there is nothing to reinforce their fabrications ...

      You threw a supposedly hurtful phrase, the roots of which lie on the surface - a common myth - Russians - stupid slaves by nature, who need an iron hand and a whip ...

      To admit, your statement infuriated me ... the main reason. this is what I remember your balanced comments on the Circassian theme ... it kept me in the framework of the site rules ... otherwise the moderators would have beaten me :)))
      The worst thing is that you position yourself as a friend of the Russian people, like saying you have suffered with pain ... but you are telling slander! Insolent and unreasonable!
      Or was that colleague right (I don’t remember my nickname) who, in the comments on the article on the Circassian issue, reproached you for using your ignorance to dissemble, talking about the friendliness of the Circassians to the Russians?
      1. krez-74
        krez-74 21 June 2013 14: 04 New
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        If you hear something that is not very pleasant to you, this does not mean that it is slander! Circassians are friends of Russians, and they live nearby in peace, much earlier than other peoples of Russia! And this is a fact, despite the fact that the tragic pages of relationships were no exception.
        Reread all my comments on all topics, and only then judge me, or your ardor will cover your eyes and mind!
        1. smile
          smile 21 June 2013 14: 29 New
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          krez-74
          I have nothing against the Circassians, but I mentioned them, I confess, out of harm :))) because I really didn’t like your words about the Russians; Precisely because I remember your sensible comments, I got angry - if there was any liberalist - that would be understandable, and so ... simply inexplicable ...
          Re-read one of your comments again, the one that caused my rejection ... think it over ... you might realize that you yourself got excited ...
          1. krez-74
            krez-74 21 June 2013 14: 41 New
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            Thank! But I affirm that you made a wrong conclusion and didn’t understand ... Here, in my opinion, I am one of the few who somehow defends the Russians!
            1. Igarr
              Igarr 21 June 2013 21: 21 New
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              Cupid, with respect ...
              people are different .... this is really amazing.
              For example, since the age of 40, I have deafened in my left ear. But a professional radio operator.
              From what you said at the beginning, I agree with almost everything ... especially given the current realities.
              .... There is no firm hand - do not wait for order! ...
              BUT, this does not only apply to Russians.
              It - absolute statement.
              This is just a matter of thermodynamics, physics, philosophy, religion - the question of ENTROPY.
              It is impossible to build a structure - without creating more complex structures.
              Or - it’s easy to roll down! Try to climb up. With a load.
              .
              Russians, in my opinion, are no different from other nations.
              Except one...
              confinement under its ... fateful ROLE.
              ..
              And this confidence - overlaps everything else.
              I SEE SO.
              the most significant - there were no failures. UNTIL.
              1. krez-74
                krez-74 21 June 2013 21: 34 New
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                Thank you for your clear opinion, Igor!
                I do not deny anything in your vision, and did not mean in the comments above. The only thing that caught the opponents was that I said (maybe awkwardly) that the Russian people need a leader like no other! Only this I had in mind. Russian turns mountains, realizes the unimaginable, thinks more lively, and plus it has an endless craving for justice, but he always waits and depends on the leader, who can go! This is sometimes used, I think you will not argue, it happens.
                Sincerely, Cupid!
              2. Igarr
                Igarr 21 June 2013 21: 39 New
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                I did not correct what was written ..
                but how wonderful ... Russian ...
                I am Russian ... Avar, Adyghe, Chechen, Uzbek, Udmurt, Nganasan ...
                is there at least some kind of artificiality? .. in words - am I a Russian Adyghe?
                You, of course, are free to correct me, because I myself have been Russian Russian since 1848 (I know for sure, I was looking for) ...
                but I really want to believe ...
                .
                ..
                I especially note .. guys ...
                such a Russian language as that of Amur ... I would like to see everyone.
                Hammered.
                1. Tao
                  Tao 22 June 2013 04: 17 New
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                  Chechen will never become Russian!
                2. Atlon
                  Atlon 22 June 2013 08: 30 New
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                  Quote: Igarr
                  I’ll especially note ... guys ... such a Russian language as Amur ... I would like to see everyone.

                  Nefig sing praises to him! A completely inadequate person. In each message, insults and arrogance. Any opinion, he considers "wrong", and everyone offers to re-read his messages several times. It hints that all idiots are around who are not able to understand his "bright" thoughts. But I don’t even speak about the “degraded” Russian people. After all, this is Adyghe’s opinion, and it is the only correct one. Who does not understand, please re-read all his messages again until your opinion becomes “correct”, that is, consonant with the opinion of krez-74
  24. rereture
    rereture 21 June 2013 11: 21 New
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    And by the way, Christianity is no different from paganism. In Christianity, the supreme being God, In paganism, the highest Perun, Svarog, depending on the tribe. In Christianity, the saints and apostles are “lower deities” to the idols (icon, the same idol) of which people worship. As in paganism for this there were reserved places of the temple, so in Christianity of the church.
    1. krez-74
      krez-74 21 June 2013 12: 15 New
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      The official religions, although they reject paganism, have absorbed a lot from paganism!
      1. smile
        smile 21 June 2013 13: 31 New
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        krez-74
        It could not be otherwise. There is such a thing, continuity is called. Never, nowhere and nothing arises from scratch.
  25. serge
    serge 21 June 2013 11: 27 New
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    Super-ethnicity, imperial self-awareness, responsibility for the whole world, the inability to live without a big idea - yes, all of this is ours. We need to regain the Russian (in the broad sense of the word) state in our country, and then the Russian idea will again illuminate the entire globe with the light of justice.
  26. Captain45
    21 June 2013 11: 46 New
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    The quote is taken from the preface to V. Pikul’s novel “The Feather and the Sword” and, it seems to me, is consonant with the article: “Among portraits of the Russian nobility, merchants and officials, you can find the names of foreigners who, living in Russia faithfully served our Fatherland in various fields activities: military and diplomats, writers and doctors, artists and architects ... Valentin Savvich took into account took them into account in his collection "Russian Portrait" along with true Russians.
    “Previously,” said Pikul, recalling the foreigners, “they lived in Russia so that they came to us and didn’t flee from us. And the current rulers have brought the country to such poverty that a good half will run away.”
    Indeed, where did the greatness of Russia, created over the centuries by our clever tsar emperors, go?
    Who will answer, whose merit is that the Russian emigrants Chaliapin, Bunin, Turgenev, Rachmaninov, Korovin remained Russian until the end of their days and, on the other hand, having devoted their lives to Russia, the Italians Rossi and Shoot, the Frenchman Petipa, the Scot Barclay de -Tolly? ....
    “Motherland is always alone,” said Pikul, “and we must accept her for who she is and do everything possible to change her life for the better ....”
    Vobschem RUSSIAN is not a nationality, it is a state of soul!
    1. smile
      smile 21 June 2013 13: 35 New
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      Captain45
      1. We had enough kings of insignificance, do not idealize.
      2. The question is, against whom is your voice crying in the desert directed: "Who will answer ...?"
      3. For the last phrase, I’m arms and legs !!! :))))
      1. Captain45
        21 June 2013 14: 46 New
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        Quote: smile
        1. We had enough kings of insignificance, do not idealize.
        2. The question is, against whom is your voice crying in the desert directed: "Who will answer ...?"
        3. For the last phrase, I’m arms and legs !!! :))))

        I don’t idealize kings, everything in quotation marks is a quote from the preface, but since I’ve gotten used to quoting it completely, I didn’t throw anything out of it, so as not to push it into the moment. So the words about the kings belong not to me but to V.S. Pikul . Read carefully.
    2. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 21 June 2013 14: 21 New
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      I think you are wrong! Russian is a nationality Russian + state of mind! It's just that a Russian from the cradle who grew up outside of Russian culture, having a mentality completely uncharacteristic of Russian, what kind of Russian is it? It is unlikely that his soul will hurt for Russia! And about those who grew up among the Russians they say "Russified", in the good sense of the word!
      1. washi
        washi 21 June 2013 15: 22 New
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        In general, the Russian ethnic group is interesting. All other nations - alone - are a good person. The crowd - (for example: Caucasians, Asians, Poles, Germans, Amers, Chinese, Jews, etc.), but with Us it is the other way around. Alone - a ugly thing, BUT FOR SOCIETY ......
  27. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 21 June 2013 14: 54 New
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    In many ways, I agree with the author of the article.
    I can say no one and nothing will force me to be a SLAVE.

    Especially when I study the history of OUR ANCESTORS - I have no words THEY WERE the winners in the MOST INFLUENCY PROVISIONS - I am RUSSIAN MAN and proud of it (postcryptum-I spit from my bell tower on all liberals and those who pour mud on my PEOPLE)
  28. Vtel
    Vtel 21 June 2013 15: 03 New
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    Russian is the responsibility for yourself and others. And Russian is freedom of choice. Russian can become a Buddhist. Russian can become a Muslim. Russian can afford it. Because it is a very strong basis - Russian. A Ingush can not become a Catholic. If he becomes a Catholic, he will cease to be an Ingush. If an Ingush wants to become a Catholic, he must first become Russian. Then he will be free and can become a Catholic or a Hindu. He can choose himself if he is Russian. If he is an Avar, he has no choice. Such is the reality of Eurasia. Only through the Russian opens the whole world.

    He listed everyone, but he didn’t say the main thing, for some reason. Even Fedor Mikhailovich Dostoevsky said that Russian is not a national concept, but an ideological one. Russian means Orthodox.
  29. Normal
    Normal 21 June 2013 15: 44 New
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    I read and literally applauded. The author said that I could not formulate and express in words.
    Not numerous critics of the article and the views of the author are not convincing. Yes, Russia has always been an agrarian country and the bulk of the population did not live in cities. But it was in the cities that the most active part of the population was concentrated. It is in the cities to have state power. The principalities and lands of Rus are known by city names. There is no contradiction in the fact that Russian means urban, state, service and the fact that
    the Russian village, from which the Russian people emerge in waves, is a stage of overcoming and at the same time a centuries-old repository of the indestructible Russian gene pool.
    The unity and struggle of opposites, however ...
    Yes, and urban Russians, if they were not artisans and merchants, as a rule never came off their village. Even now, all who can afford it tend to have a house in the village or just live (relax, spend the night) outside the city.
    It is true that the author has noticed the desire of the Russians for Statehood and the Russian need for freedom, freedom, vast expanses and immense distance.
    In general, what I'm writing ... everything is better written in the article. Thanks to the author, the article is WONDERFUL!