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Shah - a threat to the king of the enemy. To events in Syria

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Shah - a threat to the king of the enemy. To events in SyriaLooking through newsHe drew attention to some facts that were not visible in the general flow, the conclusions from which seem interesting.


The long and not always successful confrontation between the Foreign Ministry of Russia and the State Department somehow resembled tango. With the change of "leader" (paradox), where Russia, losing the rhythm, used (successfully) twists to return positions. For a long time I could not understand the "game" of diplomats, that is, the C-300 is something else, for now, no longer. Then we take the view that the blame on blood on both sides, then (true) gangsters-cannibals are the only evil.

The Syrian side worked very synchronously. Well done! Bashar took the right rhythm, the proposals of (only political) "opposition" much moreоmore than their Western masters could have imagined, before the re-orientation of all Arabs to the old Israeli bugaboo. What is called, "the boat swam almost without swaying." All the attention at certain moments, when it seemed that the scenario of Bosnia, Kosovo, or even Libya was about to happen, was the course of Russia, which either confused the “partners”, then made them think that before the 80's scenario a little bit. I will not point to the obvious "hooks" spiked by Lavrov on the way of our "partners", but at certain times he was not able to go to the village, not to the city, he smiled that your Dzhokonda (it would be necessary to work with botox).

Well, finally it happened. All cards are open, and lie on the table, the player is at a loss by his loss, and the game starts again. Thanks to the party that the Putin-Lavrov-Assad troika won for Syria, the large (if not the largest) base in Qusayr was destroyed. In Aleppo, the mopping up of thugs is proceeding to zero. Shabiha is gaining momentum more and more. Of course, the participation of Hezbollah (the party of Allah) slightly spoils the picture. But at least Bashar faithfully refused Russian volunteers - there is less reason to accuse of using mercenaries. But be that as it may, the first party was left for Syria and Russia. And this is a kind of signal to our real partners who are worth dealing with.
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  1. Truffoff
    Truffoff 19 June 2013 08: 41 New
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    "Syria has not fallen yet." Vanga
    1. PISTOL
      PISTOL 19 June 2013 09: 06 New
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      “Soon the oldest teaching will come into the world. They ask me:“ Will this time soon come? ”No, not soon. Syria has not fallen yet! Syria will collapse at the feet of the winner, but the winner will be different!” Wangi literal words
    2. Papakiko
      Papakiko 19 June 2013 09: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: Truffoff
      Syria has not fallen yet

      The long and not always successful confrontation between the Russian Foreign Ministry and the State Department was somehow reminiscent of tango.
      It reminds least of all tango.
      Rather, the West "dances" modern dance and the Foreign Ministry contrasts the classical ballet.
      And the Syrian "opera" is approaching its conclusion.
      1. Rink
        Rink 19 June 2013 10: 21 New
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        ... Thanks to the party that the Putin-Lavrov-Assad troika won for Syria ...

        But indeed, we can say that Russia's success in politics and economics, observed in recent years, rests on only a few specific individuals. And it was enough for Putin to go (albeit not far, to the premieres), so that the world would receive Libya.

        Even Iran, it seems, is able to ensure the continuity of the course, and Putin has such a short bench that it can not but worry. Of course, by the standards of politicians, Putin is still young (give him the god of health and long years, of course), but the fact that there are not at least any equivalent personalities on the horizon is it impossible to take seriously any Udaltsovs with Navalny? This is not even the opposition, it is the usual corruptive skins - it makes you think now. After Putin, I would not want to get another Gorbachev-Medvedev.

        I hope Putin’s team is working on this too.
        1. DEfindER
          DEfindER 19 June 2013 11: 15 New
          +6
          Quote: Skating rink
          and Putin has such a short bench,

          I’m afraid that you are right, the demand for real kings in the world is high, and of course there are few of them .. Remember the comments of the Germans at Putin’s interview with German journalists, “Let us drive Putin.” I hope Stalin’s mistakes with the lack of a worthy receiver, we won’t repeat it.
        2. a
          a 19 June 2013 12: 56 New
          -1
          Quote: Skating rink
          But indeed, we can say that Russia's success in politics and economics,



          that’s interesting, but what are our economic successes? money is withdrawn from the country, in production stagnation. as we were the resource base of the Western countries, they remained so. all the good words about getting off the oil and gas game remained words.
          1. volkodav
            volkodav 19 June 2013 19: 55 New
            +3
            try to start working yourself, and then evaluate. I wonder where is the stagnation? in old factories and factories, which only supported on subsidies, and there they cherish
            1. a
              a 19 June 2013 21: 26 New
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              Quote: volkodav
              try to get started yourself


              I work then. But I didn’t ask you to evaluate or not.


              Quote: volkodav
              I wonder where is the stagnation? in old factories and factories, which only supported on subsidies, and there they cherish


              Do you even know what stagnation is? what have the old factories and factories to do with it. get to start
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          3. Rink
            Rink 20 June 2013 11: 56 New
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            Quote: uno
            that’s interesting, but what are our economic successes?


        3. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 19 June 2013 19: 18 New
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          [quote = Skating rink] [quote] ... Thanks to the party that the Putin-Lavrov-Assad troika won for Syria, ... [/ quote]
          But indeed, we can say that Russia's success in politics and economics, observed in recent years, rests on only a few specific individuals ...
          ... as well as good oil and gas prices ...
          1. Rink
            Rink 20 June 2013 12: 12 New
            +1
            Quote: Semen Semenych
            ... as well as good oil and gas prices ...

            А why they are good?
            Think just like that? Then look on the net, as in the last (Putin) time, since 2005 the price for Urals oil has been forming, how is a certain company Gunvor involved, and why is Mc-Grow Hills offended by it? Why are English stock speculators now inventing new “rules” for oil trading, a spot system?

            If Russia hadn’t cleverly opposed, the West through Khodorkovsky would have arranged for us to give oil for nothing, we should have. So the favorable environment for Russian oil and gas is also the merit of the Putin administration.
        4. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 19 June 2013 19: 22 New
          -1
          [quote = Skating rink] [quote] ... Thanks to the party that the Putin-Lavrov-Assad troika won for Syria, ... [/ quote]
          ... And it was enough for Putin to leave (albeit not far, at the premiere), so that the world would receive Libya ...
          Do you really believe that steered the iPhone?
          1. Rink
            Rink 20 June 2013 12: 13 New
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            Quote: Semen Semenych
            Do you really believe that steered the iPhone?

            IPhone had a rather long leash. Longer than needed.
          2. Che
            Che 20 June 2013 19: 21 New
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            Nevertheless, real patriots of their homeland should be on the bench. Putin is not a wimp, but he is not eternal.
        5. vlad1
          vlad1 19 June 2013 19: 55 New
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          I would really like to, because we don’t have anyone at all and there’s no one to choose from. That would be the dad Lukashenko in Ukraine, would run for election would have a significant margin
    3. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 19 June 2013 10: 21 New
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      Quote: Truffoff
      "Syria has not fallen yet." Vanga

      so she in 2011 predicted a war using chemical and nuclear weapons! So Mother Earth went the other way! Time and events changed, further predictions by Wanga were already for that way, not for that. But this is for those who believe in the words of Wang.
      You can go to the fortuneteller and guess what will happen, or you can go and guess what will happen if you do so, and what if you do it differently. Try it, make sure that there is no strict path, only you need not just a fortuneteller, but a medium (intermediary).
      So a person chooses his fate. There are two invariable points — birth and death — how everyone chooses to go the way; the problem is that some are not able to stand up for themselves and hide behind karma — it's easier! (but again it seems that there are no weak people, there are just lazy people)
    4. Varies
      Varies 19 June 2013 10: 38 New
      +1
      Wang and not ascribed.
      1. 755962
        755962 19 June 2013 11: 24 New
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        Destroying Syria, Europe brings its own doom
        1. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 19 June 2013 13: 52 New
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          The West will not surrender, an attack on Syria is inevitable, it is necessary to prepare for war. Seven bastards versus one - G8 Summit. The first time I saw Putin so annoyed, apparently he had a hard time. Canadian Prime Minister Harper does not see the shores at all, so from this six you need to ask for the bazaar. Cannibals, cynicism strikes, talk about some values.
          1. 755962
            755962 19 June 2013 14: 24 New
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            Quote: Ruslan_F38
            Seven bastards versus one

            He smiled ... But in essence you are right. Our "bastard" should be given credit for courage and endurance in this matter. An unbending will to him.
            NOT ONE STEP BACK!!
  2. krasin
    krasin 19 June 2013 08: 44 New
    +4
    But be that as it may, the first batch remained with Syria and Russia. And this is a signal to our real partners who are worth dealing with.

    Developments are welcome!
  3. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 19 June 2013 08: 46 New
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    It was about this meeting between Putin and Obama that I commented on in the Syrian Trap Article. I carefully watched this meeting and it was clear that it was not difficult to guess that the puppet Obama intended to take radical measures in Syria at the direction of his sponsors. This is what, and as can be seen from the interview, was annoying Putin, now he will have to make significant adjustments to plans to get Syria out of the crisis, as well as to get out of this battle as a politically and politically-military winner. As for the victory in El Quseir and the attack on Aleppo, I think the victory has not yet begun .... the decisive battle is ahead.

    PS friends are waiting for us new "surprises" from the west.
    1. Guun
      Guun 19 June 2013 09: 46 New
      +7
      I agree, it is foolish to believe that the West, which invested huge amounts of money in the conflict, will simply take and retreat. If Assad begins to crush the radicals and mercenaries - the driven animals which is the west, even jackals can bite painfully. Most likely, if Assad remains a step before victory, the Saudis intervene in the open.
    2. Rink
      Rink 19 June 2013 10: 25 New
      +8
      Quote: Scandinavian
      PS friends are waiting for us new "surprises" from the west.

      Unfortunately, you are right.
      It is hoped that our BDK have already brought the necessary “gifts” to Tartus.
      And then there from the side of Jordan some unhealthy activity is observed ...
    3. rolik
      rolik 19 June 2013 13: 22 New
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      Quote: Scandinavian
      friends we are waiting for new "surprises" from the west.

      In this situation, the West, in my opinion, is ready for only one surprise. Insolently declare a no-fly zone, spit on everything. VaBank move, so to speak. It is necessary to prepare for impudence. And insolence to answer.
  4. Dart weyder
    Dart weyder 19 June 2013 08: 47 New
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    I think it’s too early to talk about successes and postponements, because more than once “shit-guns” started from far away - and then, “scoring” all moral and political laws, including international laws, started operations to democratize a country ... and to see this again this time .... although it would be time for them to start their mouths more actively, because their hypocrisy goes beyond all borders .... especially touches are the rumors about the "victims of the bloody regime" against the background of the attacks carried out by the "democratic opposition."
    1. Akhtuba73
      Akhtuba73 19 June 2013 09: 24 New
      +5
      Quote: Dart Weyder
      "scoring" on all moral and political, including international laws, began operations to democratize a particular country ... I would not want to see this again this time ....

      Then I caught myself thinking that I was watching the first news in the morning and was waiting for reports of the sudden bombing of NATO (Israel, Turkey ...) Syrian targets, attacks on ground targets, command centers of the army and the presidential guard ... I'm afraid of Iraqi, Yugoslav, Libyan deja -Vu. And, somewhere in hindsight, I understand that this should not end like in those days, Russia is not the same. And again, I'm afraid to make a mistake ... Are there many fears early in the morning?
  5. Trapperxnumx
    Trapperxnumx 19 June 2013 08: 47 New
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    A check is not a checkmate. One must rejoice ahead of time - the Anglo-Saxons are cunning enemies. Behind their shoulders - the experience of a century of secret diplomacy. They were not thrown from side to side like Russia, they clearly knew their goal and went towards it. So - do not relax)))
    1. rolik
      rolik 19 June 2013 13: 27 New
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      Quote: Trapper7
      Behind their shoulders - the experience of a century of secret diplomacy.

      They were so obese and believed in their own infallibility and the right to indicate to the whole world that it would be very difficult to become cunning and resourceful. And over the years we have acquired the necessary flexibility, although it all began very sadly, namely with Mr. "Yes" - Kozyrev. They can be tricky, but as much as the Kremlin allows them. This is the essence of this issue.
  6. orff
    orff 19 June 2013 08: 48 New
    +6
    Today Obama rushed to Berlin to lick Merkel one place
    1. avant-garde
      avant-garde 19 June 2013 08: 51 New
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      Quote: orff
      lick merkel one place

      to the point that she could not go to the toilet, otherwise she would not change her position in Syria!
  7. pensioner
    pensioner 19 June 2013 08: 51 New
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    The GXNUMX countries at the Northern Ireland Summit called on all parties to the Syrian conflict to fight Al Qaeda. This is stated in the communique adopted by them at the end of the summit.

    The leaders of the countries suggested that the Syrian authorities and the opposition join forces in order to oust Al-Qaeda and all those associated with it from the country. The document notes the concern of its authors about the growing outgoing terrorist threat from Syria.

    The communiqué also stresses the need for an early Geneva conference on the resolution of the Syrian conflict. According to the text of the document, all its authors agreed on the inadmissibility of military intervention in the civil war and insist on a political solution to the issue. Serious and constructive work in this direction is expected from both sides of the conflict. At the same time, the heads of the participating countries of the summit did not dwell separately on the fate of Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad.

    The meeting also unanimously condemned the use of chemical weapons in Syria and called on the country's authorities to allow international observers to investigate relevant incidents. At the same time, according to Russian President Vladimir Putin, quoted by BBC News, not all countries agreed that the Syrian authorities used chemical weapons - some states believe that there is currently no solid evidence for this.


    Infa from tape.ru. It looks like a diplomatic victory for Russia in the Syrian issue. Incomplete, of course, but still ...
    1. Micex
      Micex 19 June 2013 09: 00 New
      +5
      this is similar to postponing the meeting in Geneva to prepare a retaliatory move from the west and their “opposition” in response to the capture of Quseir and the advance of the government’s troops north. It does not bode well.
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 19 June 2013 09: 10 New
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      The G8 countries at the Northern Ireland Summit called on all parties to the Syrian conflict to fight Al Qaeda.

      Rather, not a victory for Russia, but the time won. This statement is an empty phrase. Nevertheless, while they are preparing for Geneva, Assad will have time to squeeze the bandits to such an extent that no possible supply of weapons will help them. I think this is what Russia sought at this summit.
  8. YARY
    19 June 2013 08: 52 New
    +6
    The G8, seeing in front of its nose the long-forgotten fist of Russian imperial hegemony, immediately called for a fight against Al Qaeda in Syria and even promised to allocate $ 1,5 billion for this. From the text of the statement: “We are deeply concerned about the growing threat of terrorism and extremism in Syria. We call on the Syrian authorities and the opposition at the upcoming Geneva-2 conference to jointly advocate the destruction and expulsion from Syria of all organizations and individuals associated with Al Qaeda "... Payment of ransoms to terrorist groups is a source of income that goes to recruit new terrorists, to provide opportunities for organizing and committing acts of terrorism, and also stimulates new hostage taking for ransom, thereby creating a danger to the citizens of our countries ... We categorically refuse from ransom payments to terrorists. "


    ANNANEWS
    1. orff
      orff 19 June 2013 09: 01 New
      +4
      until 2 nights they "sat", and at the final conference the GDP rubbed his shoulder. Well trained smile
      1. DEfindER
        DEfindER 19 June 2013 12: 55 New
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        Quote: orff
        at the final conference, the GDP rubbed his shoulder. Well trained

        And in short,
        Here you are, not Syria!
        1. alex popov
          alex popov 19 June 2013 22: 03 New
          +3
          Western media see it that way. No wonder you go. Against the backdrop of all these defenders pid @ ditch and terrorists, Putin looks like a superman.
  9. Micex
    Micex 19 June 2013 08: 57 New
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    The West has no options but to launch an attack on Syria in the form of: setting up a no-fly zone, attempting to capture Assad, and advancing American Marines to Damascus. I think so, because for Amers, the defeat of the opposition will be equal to their own defeat and a strong blow to their image, which they are not ready to go to. Similarly, for the Arab Sunni countries - all the same. Now the West and their allies are cornered, and can do any stupid thing. Now is the most crucial moment, it's too early to rejoice and talk about victory in Syria.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 19 June 2013 09: 26 New
      +3
      The winner will give out information as it will be convenient for him. Since Assad will not even have to invent anything, just bring the facts of crimes, and the West is very afraid of this, the West will try to remove it.
  10. Asgard
    Asgard 19 June 2013 09: 01 New
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    Syria is the “key” to everything, and if you “play” like that, you can ruin everything.
    I do not agree with the author, playing a giveaway will not lead to anything good.
    Weak “players” (and do not ask for advice))) the result can be predicted ...

    Remember Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, ....
    the “game” is conducted according to the same rules, we wipe ourselves in the face_)) and something there is “blathering”
    any street punks know to be left behind - you have to kick so that hunting is gone, and not to smear bloody snot from other people's blows ....
    Wait a situation when you have to answer, but in a position on the ground and kick your feet ...
    People watch you beat and your organs already eat ...
    where is your sense of self-preservation, with whom do you want to agree ???? with cannibals ?????

    You .....
  11. Natalia
    Natalia 19 June 2013 09: 17 New
    +4
    Obama now has specifically two options, the FIRST brazenly invade Syria without explanation for no reason; SECOND forget about Syria (well, this is unlikely).
    If the first option is implemented, we would like for us not to stand aside, in vain if our fleet was sent there. And then the United States and NATO will not fight against Russia, they can only run out to the UN General Assembly or somewhere else, however, as always.
    1. TRex
      TRex 19 June 2013 13: 27 New
      +3
      in vain is our fleet sent there

      NATALIA! Unfortunately, we cannot talk about sending the “fleet” so far. The single ships of the Navy located in the region will not be able to have any serious impact on the operational situation. God forbid, there will be enough forces to seriously strengthen air defense, coastal defense, Assad’s ground forces.
    2. werewolf
      werewolf 19 June 2013 23: 08 New
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      Natasha-GOLD is not so simple! - Assad pressed in Aleppo is not OSLO .... In from al-Qaeda and "normal guys" from the Private Military Companies "(mercenaries) in any way Obama will have to pull them out of BARAK ... He will not tell them:" Get out as you like "They start organizing some ZARUB .... or EBYPET will fit .. or the Saudis will get in ..." The Istanbul Bazaar "doesn’t seem to be wanted anymore .., but they are pulling up others! THERE IS OUR GENE (general staff) which should ento everything to sniff without noise and dust ... to do this well so that he himself is surprised, i.e. when they start pulling out their agents here, they should flop ... SATELLITES .. EXPLORATION ... AGENTURY ... EQUIPMENT .. 5 minutes before the time, "X" should turn on ... close ... cover ... cover ... IN ONE WORD "DANGER" let's see how it turns out!
  12. baltika-18
    baltika-18 19 June 2013 09: 28 New
    +4
    I’m not as optimistic as Yary. No one has opened the maps there yet. There will be a solution, there is no doubt about it. What question is? If the States deviate from their plans, this is a blow to authority, a decrease in influence in the Middle East. They will go to it is unlikely.
    Hoping for the best, you need to prepare for the worst.
    The game continues .... Russia took out something from the sleeve, but there is apparently nothing else there.
    Trump card, but not the strongest in the deck. Let's see what Putin’s “partners” have in store.
    1. YARY
      19 June 2013 09: 36 New
      +1
      Nikolay good day!
      I did not think that YOU rank me as optimists!
      My thesis sounds different, the string is stretched until it can’t be tight. The whole question is - who will weaken it? He who will be the author of this relief, he is the winner. I don’t know how YOU are, but I would like it to be the Syrian army, ultimately it is fair. But man suggests a .....
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 19 June 2013 09: 54 New
        +1
        Quote: Ardent
        Nikolay good day!

        Good afternoon, Andrei! Any weakening of the string is any defeat for the US policy. Winning them only when the string breaks or when the enemy releases it. Two players pull it now, each one pulling himself. Nobody wants to lose, but there can be no one, because a draw for the States is tantamount to defeat. This is how I see the current situation.
        1. YARY
          19 June 2013 09: 58 New
          +1
          It is quite reasonable.
          Although we will not forget about the “players” of the second plan. And yet .... a pawn can become a queen (not without help, of course)
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    2. Che
      Che 20 June 2013 22: 46 New
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      The Baltics, amers themselves unleashed this massacre, and themselves must refuse to continue it. This is their only option. Of course, they do not admit that they have directed all this mess. Well, for that they are bandits, to deny everything.
  13. Sosed_26
    Sosed_26 19 June 2013 09: 29 New
    +2
    As we have been waiting for this for a long time that Russia will not stand by as we recall Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq and it came down to Syria, I hope we will no longer tolerate all this impudent shitty democratization of the world !!!
  14. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 19 June 2013 09: 32 New
    +3
    Quote: Truffoff
    "Syria has not fallen yet." Vanga

    One can think of these words of Wang, and I want to think in two ways with a more favorable outcome for Russia. Nevertheless, all the predictions of Wanga have always come true and this is alarming ...
  15. lemal
    lemal 19 June 2013 09: 32 New
    +6
    Syria we are with you !!! Bashar al-Assad hold on !!!
  16. Sosed_26
    Sosed_26 19 June 2013 09: 33 New
    +1
    And who knows that for Amers a blow to authority is very painful? In my opinion, they always did not care about the opinions of others !!
  17. Metlik
    Metlik 19 June 2013 09: 41 New
    +2
    America's goal is not just a change of power in Syria. Their last weapon - color revolutions are not so effective anymore, we understood how to deal with this. Therefore, new options are being worked out. They need not only to capture Syria, they need to run in technology for operations in Iran, China and Russia.
  18. pa_nik
    pa_nik 19 June 2013 09: 45 New
    +1
    "And this is a signal to our real partners who are worth dealing with."

    "Your words, yes to God’s ears!" (WITH) hi And to partners, of course ... in the ears .. laughing
  19. pa_nik
    pa_nik 19 June 2013 09: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: Sosed_26
    How long have we been waiting for this that Russia will not stand by



    I would not rush to conclusions ... repeat
  20. Galinanp
    Galinanp 19 June 2013 09: 56 New
    +8
    Putin knows perfectly well that the defeat of the Anglo-Saxons in Syria means the beginning of the end for the West, and there they will play their game to the end. In light of this, the final joint statement on this meeting does not mean anything, and it makes no sense to bet on the negotiations in Geneva. It is rather a gain in time for the development of the success of the Syrian army. For Putin, this meeting was most likely important in terms of finding weaknesses in the Western system, and building a clear picture in the future of their future actions. Both Obama and his friends and Putin all understand this.
    Kinda: "I know that he knows that I know that he knows." There is a big game, I think the advantage in which lies with Putin, since this is his native environment, due to his professional skills.
    1. piter-tank
      piter-tank 19 June 2013 11: 04 New
      +5
      Does anyone remind anyone of the political games before World War II? Especially the diplomatic games of the USSR and Germany. The main thing is that Putin and Co. have time to prepare the Armed Forces for the battle, so that there is enough time won. And then I.V. Stalin and Co. did not have enough ...
  21. Sosed_26
    Sosed_26 19 June 2013 10: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: pa_nik
    Quote: Sosed_26
    How long have we been waiting for this that Russia will not stand by



    I would not rush to conclusions ... repeat


    but at least it’s just the beginning not to retreat!
  22. krez-74
    krez-74 19 June 2013 10: 32 New
    +4
    Of course, everything can be expected from the "decent and philanthropic" West, but nevertheless, Russia and Syria are now on horseback!
  23. Vtel
    Vtel 19 June 2013 10: 48 New
    +3
    Yes, the Western pack of arms has taken up arms - "Unite all the kasher countries", the old interpretation - "Unite the proletarians of all countries." The grin of this pack is all menacing, but the tail is trembling slightly, looking around at the sleeping Russian bear - who knows.
  24. uhu189
    uhu189 19 June 2013 11: 14 New
    +2
    I honestly do not share the author’s ratings either. On the one hand, he is right in many ways, but there is another side to the coin ... In fact, we drove them into a corner, diplomatic efforts to force Assad to surrender did not work, the militants are close to defeat ... What remains to the west? Surrender and retreat? Do you believe that? This meeting is just like trying on paper to legally record the fact that the Russian Federation was trying to stop the west, and diplomatically trying to stop the inevitable aggression. Only it seems to me that we did not win time, but in fact we rather lost it. We won with diplomatic tools - yes, we kind of agreed with us, but there were many examples when the West simply broke diplomatic agreements with concrete actions. Diplomatically, they also tied our hands - we can’t deliver the latest air defense systems to Syria, since it seems like we agreed that neither we nor the United States are supplying weapons to the warring parties. But this does not prevent the United States from delivering massive attacks with cruise missiles in order to destroy President Assad, but there is nothing to parry them. Yes, even if we had transferred the air defense division there, I am afraid this would not have changed the situation. And then what will we do? Squadron of BOD and 3's DC with tankers against the 6 fleet of the USA with reinforcement by planes from the Gulf of Aden and Persian? Of course, no one will allow a collision with our ships, but the maximum that they can do is save Tartus from being captured by their presence in it ... As it was correctly noted, the West put too much energy into destabilization in Syria to take and back off. And from my amateur point of view, I see no way that we could stop the invasion and attacks on Syria, with the exception of open intervention in the war. But this is already a very serious thing and no one will do it ...
    1. VDV 80-82
      VDV 80-82 19 June 2013 19: 46 New
      +1
      do not forget my friend ... that in Syria there are more than 20 thousand citizens of Russia on consular records. Therefore, Russia has full authority to intervene in the conflict in order to protect our citizens! but the whole question is ... will it intervene?
  25. sincman
    sincman 19 June 2013 11: 53 New
    +2
    Saudi army advances to Syrian border through Jordan

    Pro-Iranian resource Mirat Al-Jazeera has spread sensational information about the preparation of the Saudi-Turkish invasion of Syria.

    Starting in the morning on Saturday, June 15, in Riyadh there are continuous meetings and closed-door meetings. The Sadovskaya elite holds meetings with American and French diplomats, considering possible scenarios for the development of events in Syria. The Saudis are extremely concerned about the rapid progress of the Syrian army in northern Syria.

    The meetings are attended by the commanders of the Saudi army. At the same time, the possibility of opening a new front is being discussed with the Turks in order to prevent the Syrian army from establishing full control over the entire territory of the country. The Saudis began, without prior consultation with the Western Allies, transferring weapons for the opposition to bases in Turkey.

    The head of the National Security Council of Saudi Arabia, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, is in Turkey on a secret visit. Bandar is negotiating arms shipments to the Syrian factions and using the Turkish Air Force to transfer arms to Syrian territory.

    Over the past few days, Saudi Arabian military leaders "have been living in a state of constant excitement, and are awaiting any development of the situation and receiving any orders."

    Meanwhile, over the past two days, Syrian opposition resources have spread information about the inevitability of direct military intervention by Saudi Arabia in Syria. On the facebook pages of the rebels, they write that the Saudi army has already received relevant orders and is being advanced to the Syrian border through Jordan. As a “proof” last night, a photograph was published with the caption “The vanguard of the Saudi armored column approached the Syrian-Jordanian border: We are in a hurry to help the heroes of the Levant!”


    http://3mv.ru/publ/saudovskaja_armija_vydaigaetsja_k_sirijskoj_granice_cherez_io


    rdaniju / 1-1-0-16854

    It looks like an animal grin of a wounded beast (West) not ready to surrender so easily to the winner! I really hope that this is disinformation.
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    1. sincman
      sincman 19 June 2013 12: 01 New
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      Admins, why is this spambot still not banned ?!
  27. Naval
    Naval 19 June 2013 15: 23 New
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    Russia not only did not surrender Syria, but also promised major troubles to its "Western friends" if they decide to pacify Syria with a "no-fly zone."
    Despite the pessimism of individual comrades, I think Putin would not have climbed into the bottle and would not have become in a pose if he had no leverage. There would be no hope of victory, they would try to retreat while preserving their face and authority, and they fight so hard when they know a little more wink than everyone else. We will still fight for "peace between nations."
    1. uhu189
      uhu189 19 June 2013 23: 15 New
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      Yes, it’s not pessimism, but the fact that there are many people left in power who openly betray the interests of the country in the name of their small-skinned ... They can interfere very much, and they already interfere if you follow our economy ...
  28. Revolver
    Revolver 19 June 2013 19: 17 New
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    While Putin and Obama are playing chess culturally, the Turks and Saudis are going to play their traditional game, like it is there, something like “sekim head”. Note that this game is not played in the lobby of a five-star hotel, but in the fields and squares, and the participants plan to play in the fields and squares of Syria. They will gather a thread of the Arab-Islamic emergency meeting, hear the question of "ending the bloodshed" and "providing international assistance to the fraternal Syrian people," decide "to introduce an Arab-Islamic limited contingent of peacekeepers," and will introduce it. The Syrian army and so on the limit of power, tank wedges from the Turkish and Jordanian borders, converging to the coast, it will not hold.
    In the best case for itself, Assad will be able to keep the Alavite enclave on the coast, the "peacekeepers" are unlikely to want to get in touch with the Russian fleet, because they can pile on them. And the Syrian fleet seems to be on the side of Assad.
    Essno "peacekeepers" will do anything but the world. But, unfortunately, the outcome of the chess game will lose its significance.
  29. volkodav
    volkodav 19 June 2013 20: 24 New
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    good evening smile I have been observing the development of events for a long time. Some of the members of the forum want to go to Syria as a volunteer to support one side or another in this conflict (volunteer means free, free) when you answer NO to yourself, then think about your posts about sending the fleet to Syria and units of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. my opinion is simply to give a damn about the entire embargo and deliver weapons wherever we need and whatever we want, the United States is doing just that.
    1. uhu189
      uhu189 19 June 2013 23: 13 New
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      I’m afraid it won’t work out, while Medvedev and the gop company are sitting in the government, who are frankly merging Russia ... Until all of this is rid of ... you can’t clean it up - this will continue. But what pleases, there are still positive trends, and hope, at least for me, has arisen ...