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How many were Ukrainian rebel armies

How many were Ukrainian rebel armies

Now, in almost all publications about the actions of Ukrainian nationalists during the war, the abbreviation OUN-UPA (Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists - Ukrainian Insurgent Army) is found.

This combination has already firmly entered the language and is clearly associated with the names of Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych. Modern Svidomites talk about the need to rehabilitate this organization, opponents object to them. Sometimes it comes to the SS division "Galicia" ("Galicia"). But everything connected with the SS is somehow modestly, very odiously perceived.

Thus, it seems that three parties took part in the events described: the Germans, the Red Army and the OUN-UPA. However, in reality, everything was much more complicated. First, a huge number of armed formations operated in Western Ukraine. These were the Ukrainian nationalist OUN (b), OUN (m), the Legion of Ukrainian Nationalists (LUN) under the command of Roman Sushko, the Murava police unit, Bukovynsky kuren, the Volyn self-defense legion, the Polesskaya Sich, the Polish Army of Craiova, Soviet partisan detachments … These detachments either fought against each other, or created temporary coalitions.

Secondly, there were two organizations with the same name - the Ukrainian Insurgent Army. Because of which there is a lot of confusion. This is especially noticeable when modern Ukrainian historians, trying to wash the image of Bandera, prove the anti-fascist orientation of the OUN and show German documents, which speak of the clashes between the UPA and the Wehrmacht. It is difficult for anti-fascists to find an answer to such arguments, because when the word UPA is mentioned, the abbreviation OUN-UPA appears right before their eyes.

This is the main catch - the UPA, which had friction with the Germans, has nothing to do with either Bandera or Shukhevych.

This formation was created in the summer of 1941 in Polesie by Vasily Borovets, who used the pseudonym Taras Bulba, therefore historical in literature it is referred to as Bulba-Borovets. Initially, Borovets units operated under the name of the District Police Command. From the first days of the German occupation, Bulba-Borovets managed to establish good relations with the Germans. The Germans were not against such an alliance, because the Bulbians guaranteed them order in Polesie. The militia was even renamed into the "Polesskaya Sich" of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, and Borovets proclaimed himself its ataman.

Taras Bulba-Borovets

Borovets had nothing to do with the OUN and, although he was a moderate Ukrainian nationalist, was guided not so much by fascist Germany as other leaders of the Ukrainian nationalists Melnik and Bandera, but by the so-called government of the UPR (Ukrainian People's Republic) in exile.

Unlike the OUN, who professed a primitive, but harmonious ideological system and dreamed of establishing their power over the country, the people of Borovets were a typical self-defense detachment, whose members did not claim anything except to protect their native villages from any encroachments.

At the end of 1, the Germans demanded that the militia be disbanded, which Borovets did, but he himself, together with the backbone of the Polesskaya Sich, the UPA went underground.

"Polesskaya Sich"

At this time, the Germans began to actively requisition food from the peasants and forcibly send Volyn boys and girls to work in Nazi Germany. At the same time, the Germans often acted brutally, which caused a response from the local population. In such conditions, individual units of the UPA got out of the control of their chieftain and tried to protect the population from looting. Borovets was well aware that if he and his Ukrainian Insurgent Army did not act, a significant part of his people would simply run over to the Soviet partisans.

Therefore Borovets closed his eyes to the fact that his soldiers in several settlements attacked the Germans, destroying several hundred Nazis. The first serious operation against the Germans was a raid on the Shepetovka railway station in August XNUMX. In addition, Borovets held a series of negotiations with the Soviet partisans, concluding a truce with them, which lasted six months. But at the same time, negotiations were held with the German administration, which offered to settle misunderstandings and create police units from the UPA under German command. However, these negotiations fell through.

So the Bandera members had nothing to do with the UPA or its actions during that period of time.Moreover, they were warring groups that hated each other fiercely. With each passing month, the tension between the Bandera and Bulbovites grew. In the spring of 1942, episodic clashes between the UPA and the Nazis began. The OUN published an anti-partisan leaflet, in which the UPA actions were called sabotage. Relations even more deteriorated in the fall of the same year. It was at this time that the confrontation develops into armed clashes. At the beginning of 1943, several detachments of Bulbovites were disarmed by Bandera, and in the summer the war between the UPA and OUN (b) reached its apotheosis.

The confrontation between the OUN and the UPA was not in favor of Borovets. His not particularly disciplined army, of five to six thousand former peasants, had to confront a clearly structured, fanatical and ruthless force, behind which stood the entire might of the German army. In addition, the OUN went to the trick, creating a parallel structure with the same name - UPA. Initially, this structure was used as a means of discrediting Borovets both in the eyes of the local population and in the eyes of the Germans. In September 1943, the Bulba's headquarters was surrounded by Bandera and destroyed, and Bulba-Borovets himself surrendered to the Germans, preferring to sit out in a German prison. The remnants of his people were either destroyed or joined the ranks of the victors. And under the name of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, Bandera's followers began to operate. Naturally, this UPA, headed by Roman Shukhevi-than, did not conflict with the Germans. Moreover, the Abwehr fully provided the nationalists weapons and ammunition. In addition, the required number of military instructors was allocated.

For maximum efficiency of actions, Shukhevych tried to give the UPA the appearance of a voluntary people's liberation army. In fact, the UPA was neither a voluntary nor a people's liberation army - the "mobilization" into its ranks was violent. All those who resisted the "mobilization" in the UPA were killed without delay, and often together with the whole family. To prevent the fighters from scattering at the first opportunity, the recruits were forced to kill a Jew, a Pole or a Ukrainian who had been guilty of something wrong before the bandits. And there was no way back for the "mobilized". Under the slogan of the national liberation struggle, the UPA staged an unprecedented massacre of civilians in the territories occupied by the Germans.

No wonder Taras Borovets in his "Open letter to the OUN Bandera and the UPA Head Command" dated September 24, 1943, wrote: "Your" power "does not behave like a people's revolutionary power, but like an ordinary gang ... You have already started a fratricidal struggle, since you do not want to fight together with the entire Ukrainian working people for their liberation, you are already fighting today only for power over them. Beating with ramrods and shooting Ukrainian peasants ... have become your daily activities. " In an article published in the Bul'bovskaya newspaper Oborona Ukrainy, the same Bulba-Borovets wrote to the OUN: “Was there ever such a revolutionary organization in Ukraine that its own people would fear more than the most ferocious enemy, and I would not call members any other than “way” (from the words “strangle with bonds”) and “co-workers” (from the word ax-sokir), which mucked honest and conscientious Ukrainians more than the Gestapo or the NKVD? .. What do they have in common with liberation Ukraine's Bandera attempts to subordinate the Ukrainian masses to their party dictatorship and fascist ideology, which is opposed to the Ukrainian people, against which the whole world is fighting ... I will allow myself to ask you: what are you fighting for? For Ukraine or for your OUN? For the Ukrainian State or for the dictatorship in this state? For the Ukrainian people or only for their party? "

The last question is absolutely rhetorical. Bandera fought for the creation of a state of the fascist type, in which Ukrainian nationalists would have power over the Ukrainian people. Agree, such a desire is not at all a struggle for the independence of Ukraine.

One more quote can be cited. Born and raised in Rovno, Maidan field commander and then twice minister of internal affairs in orange governments, Yuri Lu-tsenko, in an interview with the Moskovsky Komsomolets in Donbass newspaper in 2002, said the following:

“Before the war, about 1 million 400 thousand people lived in the Rivne region. We're only approaching a million now. The massacres in the war and post-war years were so incredible that the region has not yet recovered its population. Moreover, the massacre was, shall we say, versatile.

It was in the Rivne region that the UPA was created as a weapon to fight the Polish population. It must be understood that most of these people served as policemen, and then, organized in 1943, they went to the UPA, and Polish policemen came in their place. Accordingly, the struggle began. The Poles created the Home Army also in the Rivne region, and only then did it leave for the territory of Poland and fought there until the Warsaw Uprising.

In the first years of the war, the Banderaites took up the Jews. We had about twenty percent of the population. In some regional centers, Jews were up to 60%. Almost all of them were destroyed in the first 2 years, except for those who managed to leave for the partisan detachments of Medvedev, Fedorov, Kovpak - they all passed through our region. But besides that, Bandera's supporters began to exterminate the Melnikovites. These were people who also represented the OUN (Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists - ed.), But the Melnikov wing. In addition, there were still formations of the Bulbashevites, or rather the Bulb'shchv. They were also mercilessly destroyed.
 - Почему?
 - It was an armed struggle for power in the party within the OUN. Bandera almost completely destroyed the "Bulb'shschv" and very seriously battered the Melnikovites. Who was stronger, he pressed, And there were no political compromises, there was an armed struggle.

Why were the Poles massacred here? It is still a mystery to me why atrocities based on ethnicity reached such intensity, when people were thrown into wells, children were massacred, entire villages were shot on ethnic grounds? This was only in our country and in Yugoslavia. The eyes of the Yugoslavs were gouged out and thrown into the wells, and so was ours. I don’t know more such examples in Europe. Probably, there is something extremist in us. Maybe long-term communication with Asia? For a long time we were under the Tatars, and they were under the Turks ...
 - Do you mean that the extermination of the Polish population was very seriously organized?
 - Before Christmas 1943, UPA fighters surrounded all Polish settlements in the Rivne and Volyn regions and destroyed everyone. How many, no one knows, the Poles believe that the count goes to hundreds of thousands. Moreover, you understand, the borderland, everyone spoke a mixed language, it is difficult to whitewash people. But, nevertheless, there were purely Polish settlements. I read the diaries and letters of both Bendera and Poles ... What I came across was simply amazing.

The first executions of the Poles in 1941 were carried out by the Bulbo men. As soon as the Germans entered, the Bandera and Bulbovites appeared. But the Bulbo men were more active and were the first to create armed forces in the forests. They entered into an alliance with the Germans, offered their services for the destruction of the "Soviet partisan in the Polish hollow", in our opinion, in the Pinsk swamps. There, on the border with Belarus, we had a completely red area with a functioning underground regional party committee, where the Germans could not enter. A newspaper was published, all the partisan detachments stayed there for the night ... Swamps and swamps. The Germans could not penetrate there, they only bombed heavily.

So, I was shocked by the story. Child surviving writing. He was 5 years old, and Bulbovites came to the village. All Polish families were taken out to the Maidan and escorted into the forest. People cried, turned to their guards, they say, we went to school together, our children played together, and where are you taking us ?! They replied that they had an order to just bring you, and nothing terrible would happen. You will simply be evicted.

Nevertheless, they were taken to a forest clearing, and already another team began executions. There is a crowd of adults and children, and they take turns to be laid face down by 50 in a row, and 2 people walk from the edges towards each other and shoot in the heads. And this kid, and they had three children with their mother, two more sisters were older, looked at all this. Mother's nerves could not stand it, she could no longer endure and said that she had to go and die. She put the boy under her. The nationalist who reached her shot her in the head, and blood and brains splattered on her son's head. Therefore, the one who was walking from the left flank decided that he had been killed and did not start shooting. The boy did not lose his mind, he lay for another 5 hours under his mother, got out and survived ...

This is one small picture of what was happening then in the Rivne region. It was all around. The whole Volyn was engulfed first by the executions of Jews, then the Poles, then a showdown among themselves, then battles between the Bandera and the so-called "hawks" - the extermination battalions of the NKVD, which fought against the Bandera. The region burned for at least ten years. The fighting went on until 1952. There was a war, active somewhere until 1947, then less, but it went on. In fact, a civil war. Because the stories about the NKVDiet with the Russian language and the Moscow accent are fiction. The destroyer battalions were, as a rule, Ukrainians and, as a rule, Western Ukrainians. Therefore, it was a constant murderous war between our own people. "
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  1. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 8 July 2013 07: 44
    The history of the OUN is vicious, deceitful and bloody, and they are trying to make themselves look like burs for freedom. Sadistic clowns.
    1. O_RUS
      O_RUS 11 July 2013 22: 32
      Quote: FC Skif
      they are trying to make themselves look like burs for freedom

      ... alas ... what should they try .... they are national heroes in Ukraine
  2. washi
    washi 8 July 2013 07: 46
    Since then, nothing has changed. Again, everything is against everyone. Left to grab a weapon
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 8 July 2013 08: 35
      Thanks to the author!
      Having read about Kovpak, I couldn’t understand in any way who were the Melnik and Bulbashevites ??
      The article made it clear!
  3. biglow
    biglow 8 July 2013 09: 22
    all of them are executioners of their people, as if these scum were not called
  4. Net
    Net 8 July 2013 09: 24
    Honestly, there is little point in understanding the intricacies of relations between different currents of the same criminals.
    Borovets had no relation to the OUN and, although it was a moderate Ukrainian nationalist, was guided not so much by fascist Germany as other leaders of the Ukrainian nationalists Melnik and Bandera, but by the so-called government of the UPR (Ukrainian People's Republic) in exile.

    But what is the UPR? And the UPR is an independent formation self-proclaimed by the leadership of the UPR in 1918. That is, a bunch of bastards decided for millions of people, for the most part not having anything to do with their pseudo-Ukrainian ideas.
    1. dominatus
      dominatus 10 July 2013 15: 46
      Indeed - a bunch of bastards on November 7, 1917 in Moscow staged a coup.
      This bunch of bastards sent to Kiev the punitive corps of Muravyov.
      Even now, a bunch of bastards think that Ukraine is an integral part of Russia.
      And some of these bastards decided that Ukrainians as a nation did not exist at all, decided for millions of people what ideas they had and what they had nothing to do with.

      UNR was proclaimed III Universal Central Rada.
      CENTRAL RADA - since March 1917, the representative body of Ukrainian political, social, cultural and professional organizations; since April 1917, after the All-Ukrainian National Congress - the legislative body of Ukraine (parliament).
      1. dualnik
        dualnik 31 July 2013 14: 41
        Lviv? Or nearby? DMB 92. Served with the Ukrainians during the collapse of the Union. Very similar speeches. Damn, listen to such comrades, you can’t find a worse Russian. The most terrible oppressors since the creation of the world.
  5. Egen
    Egen 8 July 2013 10: 30
    "that they have an order to just bring you"

    - That's it, "it's not me, I just brought it ..." All of them had to be wetted ... and since now a wave is rising, it means that many were not soaked :(
  6. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 8 July 2013 10: 38
    Informative article, thanks to the author.
  7. pensioner
    pensioner 8 July 2013 10: 39
    That's disgusting! And THIS can be proud of ???
  8. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 8 July 2013 11: 58
    Yes, modern Ukraine has chosen a glorious role model for itself, rapists, murderers, degenerates, all sorts of scum, which the Germans did not even consider as people, so USEFUL SKOTIN. Look at the photo of the so-called "leaders" of the UPA and other OUN like Bandera or Shukhevych, so few what is moral, but it also turns out to be physical. No, it’s better that Ukraine with such "heroes" enter the European Union there for their very place.
    1. Sevastopol
      Sevastopol 8 July 2013 12: 59
      about the EU - originally a myth, designed exclusively for naive fools-voters who all live in the hope that "the Germans will come, they will build everything and then we will live."
      there was not even a theoretical chance, and there isn’t, that Ukraine will join the EU. purely political idle talk, aimed only at slowing down integration with Russia.

      and not such fools in Europe. Why do they need a multimillion-dollar army of unskilled workers who do not know English, prone to theft, swindling and sloppiness?

      Europeans trust Turks and Arabs more - they are even predictable.
      1. imperial 3
        imperial 3 20 July 2013 20: 25
        you are wrong Ukrainians are very hardworking people
    2. Dimka off
      Dimka off 8 July 2013 15: 44
      it’s more correct to say that the modern Ukrainian government makes heroes out of bandits. And naturally, little by little, he fools people. In some regions already oh how many fools. Sober residents of Ukraine for an alliance with Russia and do not want to geyropu.
    3. Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru 8 July 2013 16: 23
      Yes, modern Ukraine has chosen a glorious role model, rapists, murderers, degenerates, all sorts of scum that the Germans did not even consider people to be, so USEFUL CATTLE

  9. Sevastopol
    Sevastopol 8 July 2013 12: 48
    And now these mresies in Western Ukraine are exposed as heroes. Although it is possible that those who glorify them now lost their relatives precisely through their fault.
    These are the "values" in Ukraine are instilled. Generally speaking, this applies not only to the western part of the country, but to a larger one. including Kiev, almost the entire center and north of the country.
  10. morpogr
    morpogr 8 July 2013 13: 38
    Thanks very much. Now I’m even more beginning to understand why Ukraine is so divided and cannot become one.
  11. RoTTor
    RoTTor 8 July 2013 14: 49
    It would be worth just publishing the documents of the UPA from the Rivne State Archives, about how the Germans armed the "freedom fighters" and their reports on the "actions". It is only unlikely that this archive after 1991 remained accessible or not destroyed by the current "patriots".
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 8 July 2013 18: 19
      Quote: RoTTor
      It is only unlikely that this archive after 1991 remained accessible or not destroyed by the current "patriots".

      You underestimate the Soviet archival system !! There are copies in any way in Moscow and Kiev. In the form of photocopies.
  12. Daduda
    Daduda 8 July 2013 14: 52
    I don’t understand shit varieties.
  13. antonio
    antonio 8 July 2013 15: 20
    That history did not give them a deadline to exterminate each other to the end, and no one would be proud of the exploits of these scum
  14. survivor
    survivor 8 July 2013 15: 38
    yeah, and say something not what. where the central government is weakening, everyone creeps out and tries to pick up at least some thread of a part of the country. In principle, we all observed this process in Belovezhskaya Pushcha.
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  16. Day 11
    Day 11 8 July 2013 16: 10
    Article plus. We, too, many confuse the ROA (Vlasovites) and RONA (Kaminsky). Each of them had their own goals, but ALL fought with the Nazis shoulder to shoulder!
  17. Day 11
    Day 11 8 July 2013 16: 17
    Maybe not the topic, but also an interesting document
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 8 July 2013 16: 38
      Ukrainian volunteers
    2. MG42
      MG42 9 July 2013 02: 35
      Quote: Den 11
      Maybe not the topic, but also an interesting document

      It is printed in a Polish printing house ..
  18. Day 11
    Day 11 8 July 2013 16: 35
    Here is the patch of the Ukrainian military formation YBB and other Ukrainian Volunteers
  19. washi
    washi 8 July 2013 17: 06
    If Nazism is banned in the European Union, then how did our Baltic countries get there and want to get Okraina
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 8 July 2013 17: 22
      Eh Vasya, Vasya --- politics, her mother!
    2. Algor73
      Algor73 8 July 2013 19: 19
      Minus you for "Outskirts". There is no such state. If you do not respect those who support the OUN-UPA, then this is not Ukraine yet. 95 percent of Ukrainians are also against OUN-UPA and they live in UKRAINE. And so the article is competent.
      1. Sochi
        Sochi 8 July 2013 20: 07
        Outskirts or Malorosia was so called in all normal times ... The Austro-Hungarians called it Ukraine, and the Bolsheviks seized it. Therefore, he is absolutely right. And it’s not a secret for anyone that the national costume of the citizens of Okraintsev is called - LITTLE FUR
      2. washi
        washi 12 July 2013 16: 24
        The outskirts are the name of your "state" After the raids of the nomads, and not only this, this territory was called the Wild Field. Then it became the outskirts (i.e. border) of several states.
        You can write and voice in different ways. But there is only one sense: Border.
        That's whose border you want to be - your decision. But an independent state can never. Look at Poland. Speech of the Commonwealth: this is the unification of Polish tribes and the Russian state of Lithuania. That Psheki, that the Balts are disengaging from Russia, but the more they try to distance themselves, the larger the city
    3. MG42
      MG42 9 July 2013 02: 33
      Quote: Vasya
      If Nazism is banned in the European Union, then how did our Baltic countries get there and want to get Okraina

      The party "freedom" was expelled by the European Nazis from their union of the ultra-right ..
      The Alliance of European National Movements, which includes the main nationally oriented and nationalist movements and parties of Western Europe, expelled VO “Freedom” from its membership, said the president of the European Center for Geopolitical Analysis, former deputy of the Polish Sejm Mateusz Piskorski. “VO“ Freedom ”differs from the right-wing forces of Western Europe in direct, directly related to the Nazi ideology, slogans,” he commented
  20. Day 11
    Day 11 8 July 2013 17: 31
    Commander of the Ukrainian National Army Coronet-General Pavlo Shandruk
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 8 July 2013 17: 44
      Ukrainian lovers of WWII history --- what kind of award? Who knows?
      1. bagpipe
        bagpipe 1 August 2013 00: 01
        Order of Simon PetliuraОрден_Симона_Петлюры
  21. Day 11
    Day 11 8 July 2013 17: 36
    Everything is clear without translation
  22. Day 11
    Day 11 8 July 2013 17: 53
    Here he is Taras Bulba-Borovets. Draw your own conclusions
    1. dominatus
      dominatus 10 July 2013 18: 49
      Well, what conclusion did you draw?

      This uniform and insignia have no relation to the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe or SS.
      The insignia is clearly homemade, the jacket is trophy.
      There is no voentorg in the forest. And UPA was not supplied with aircraft.
      You would look at the photos of the Soviet partisans - many were dressed in trophy uniforms, and some even retained the insignia.

      You minus - the comment you brought to the photo, a clear provocation.
      If you were a little smarter - you would read the comment under the photo:
      "T. Borovets in the uniform of a cornet general with edged tridents in the collar buttonholes, 1942"

      You hinted at a connection with the Germans - for your information, all collaborators who fought in German formations wore the GERMAN uniform and GERMAN insignia.
      1. washi
        washi 12 July 2013 16: 34
        Vlasovites were not allowed on the Soviet front.
        And it was the Vlasovites who liberated Prague from the Nazis.
        There are still disputes over Vlasov. But about the nationalists of Poland, Outskirts, the Baltic states, Hungary - there are no disputes
    2. bagpipe
      bagpipe 1 August 2013 00: 03
      and you read his book "Army without Power" - I am sure you will look at many things differently. There is a history of Polesie without Marskism and other types of elder
  23. Sochi
    Sochi 8 July 2013 20: 16
    Yes, our fathers and grandfathers are enemies. The war with us was to destroy, and we were satisfied with the defeat of the enemy, and not his death ...
  24. Mikhail
    Mikhail 8 July 2013 21: 11
    Quote: Sochi
    Outskirts or Malorosia was so called in all normal times ... The Austro-Hungarians called it Ukraine, and the Bolsheviks seized it. Therefore, he is absolutely right. And it’s not a secret for anyone that the national costume of the citizens of Okraintsev is called - LITTLE FUR

    You're right. Ukraine - the outskirts, the borderlands between the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Russian kingdom (both before 1654 and the last), were called in Polish. Incidentally, the Poles do not hide this even now.
    Indeed, the Bolsheviks did everything to remove the name of Little Russia from the map of the Russian world. This is the question of who Lenin was in whose interests ... During the Soviet regime, the names "Ukraine" and "Ukrainian" were heavily grafted into society and for many they lost their negative attitudes.
    But the correct name of our region is Little Russia; otherwise it turns out a paradox: Great Russia is, and Little Russia is not. (Incidentally, there is Lesser Poland (Krakow) and Greater Poland (Warsaw), and these are official terms in Polandѣ).
    It’s funny that "nationally svidomi" react to Malorosov, like a bull to a red rag. This can be compared here with ch съm: you call a Jew a Jew, but he gets angry and says to you: "Don't you dare to offend me! I'm not a Jew, I - zh-i-d-z!" Absurd? For Jews it is definitely absurd. But for us, Russians, this absurdity after 1917 became life.
  25. Mikhail
    Mikhail 8 July 2013 21: 22
    A year ago I was walking along Svoboda Avenue in Lviv and in the window of a bookstore I saw a book on display, on the cover of which it was written: "Divizia" Galichina "".
    For some reason, the authors of the book modestly omitted two letters before the name of the "glorious" division.

    The article is very good. It is necessary to expose the lie that the OUN-UPA allegedly fought against the Germans. It is planned to publish monographs about these "valiant" warriors, so that many residents of Chervonnaya Rus (aka Galicia) open their eyes to the evil of these Hitler's (after the American war) lackeys. Especially it is necessary to emphasize the talent of the nationalists in relation to the local Galician and Volyn population, so that there are no illusions about the struggle for the people's interests, allegedly exclusively against the private life of society and society, and m.s.s.k.a.l.e.
  26. bublic82009
    bublic82009 8 July 2013 23: 44
    With this article they want to justify all these atrocities. Lutsenko does not understand the atrocities of his grandfathers against other peoples living in Bukovina. all are fighting against all such a pier was the situation. how so the Nazis killed any partisan commander, and here the commander Bulbu-Borovets was only sent to prison, as was Bandera. not weird? how could that be? for the murder in the rear of a German soldier or officer, 10-40 Russians, Ukrainian, Belarusian, and even villages were executed. and here with the Germans, such as hundreds of clashes, only a prison. perhaps the attacks were not carried out on Wehrmacht soldiers, but on similar units. the fascist principle of inciting and conquering was in action.
  27. cap-blood
    cap-blood 8 July 2013 23: 56
    Guys! Great article and great comments, and that's it! The question is: who then minus them all pretty well? Ah .., do you recognize the handwriting: quietly, quietly? So here they are - the new Bandera! They face the facts, and they stupidly bend their own, but there are no real arguments, just as there is no culture of communication and dispute, so they will pass by on the quiet. In general, when people ignore causal relationships, facts and logic, forgetting about such concepts as honor, conscience and common sense, then this, apparently, is a diagnosis, some kind of generation derived ... I wanted to write "in Ukraine", but then I remembered that there are enough of them all over the world. And this is very sad! ..
  28. Day 11
    Day 11 9 July 2013 00: 11
    Comrades Ukrainians-in general, translate
    1. MG42
      MG42 9 July 2013 02: 30
      Quote: Den 11
      Comrades Ukrainians-in general, translate

      What's interesting about the newspaper "Ukrainian Volunteer"? The propaganda is solid .. No.
    2. Mikhail
      Mikhail 9 July 2013 16: 17
      On bagnet it’s clearer than the sun of quitna, / graє, wigrava in the far blue. - On shtakah the bright sun shines, / plays, plays enough in the distance blue.

      We can help the coulemeters and the important harmonies become the sound of the commune. - We can help the machine guns and heavy guns defeat the Stalinist commune.

      It is perekreslimo Pereyaslavsku please. - Cross out the Pereyaslav agreement.

      The rest of the headings, I think, are understandable.

      Sorry, the main text of the newspaper is not readable (too small). If you find more, I’ll translate.
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 9 July 2013 17: 16
        Thank you! We will find larger
      2. Day 11
        Day 11 9 July 2013 17: 40
        Guys, let's raise the topic about the GSS that have sided with the Hans. It seems to me that for many these are unknown pages ...
      3. washi
        washi 12 July 2013 16: 41
        Sorry for the idiots. They asked you - you transferred.
        Unfortunately, very few people who think and know about the site are left.
        Unfortunately, a general dullness is felt.
        Even among the generals and marshals there are stupidly stubborn, what to speak of youth.
        Sorry again
  29. Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy 9 July 2013 02: 02
    I think that the problem is that in Ukraine there is not and was not the backbone on which the history of an independent state is built. Therefore, in one part of the country, parades on May 9th in another parades of veterans of Galicia and SS.
    I respect the brothers of Ukrainians, but to be honest I’m not sure that Ukraine has a history that could be fully considered the history of one indivisible nation. Eastern Ukraine has its own history, western has its own, and Crimea, to be honest, generally has a purely Russian history which, even with a great desire, cannot be tied to the history of the independent state of Ukraine.
    And the thing is most likely that one very important word has begun to be forgotten from which it is denied in Ukraine and which is neglected in the Russian Federation - this is the word RUS.
    By the way, the question of how to write "to Ukraine" or "to Ukraine" has not yet been resolved.
    Since 2011, the Embassy of the Russian Federation is officially called the "Embassy of the Russian Federation AT Ukraine "although there was a" Russian Embassy in Ukraine "before 2011. Changed priorities?
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 9 July 2013 17: 51
      Is this true?
      "Since 2011, the Russian Embassy has been officially called the" Embassy of the Russian Federation in Ukraine "although until 2011 it was the" Embassy of the Russian Federation in Ukraine ""
  30. Day 11
    Day 11 9 July 2013 17: 57
    Comrades-Ukrainians! How do you like it (a song of Ukrainian volunteers in the Wehrmacht)? My Kohana,
    Yak dovgo bula ty u snі!
    Zrobili iz from you
    The Kremlin Katy Navisny.

    In Moscow, near the best cat
    Wine and rose boules,
    And our zmarnіlі dіvchata
    P_d prisons share of cursed.

    Gay, listen to the little people Stalin,
    Sweat in the sea!
    Ti mrієsh us poverty and dalі?
    Dog, don't see us!

    For the chorni godini rozpuki,
    I’m in tune with Nenko’s
    For all Katuvannya and flour
    Pay my land!

    I do not help strangers
    English curses and Jew.
    Before revenge, brother Ukrainian,
    Before revenge, the great narod
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 9 July 2013 19: 06
      And why immediately minus? Justify! Not true?
      1. Mikhail
        Mikhail 9 July 2013 19: 30
        All is true. Pѣsenka - creation of the third-class riѳmoplet. Such a p достаточноsenok for raising the morale of the bandits, they have compiled enough. Only the truth in them is not a penny.
        The threats to Stalin are simply smyshnny.
        Whatever they were heroes - so this is a murder unarmed.
        1. bagpipe
          bagpipe 1 August 2013 00: 14
          dear, you probably studied history on the Marxists-Leninists. No offense, but talking about the topic with other people's words, especially with propaganda - a profanity.
    2. dominatus
      dominatus 10 July 2013 16: 04
      And what is not true in the lyrics?

      Quote: Den 11
      In Moscow, near the best cat
      Wine and rose boules,
      And our zmarnіlі dіvchata
      P_d prisons share of cursed.

      Want to say it's a lie? That millions of starvation lies. What tens of thousands of tortured in the Gulag - a lie?
      Why don’t you remember that in 1939, just a few days after the Red Army entered Western Ukraine, mass arrests began, don’t you remember the executions?
      1. washi
        washi 12 July 2013 16: 48
        All is true. Nearly. Who starved? Moscow? On the contrary, they sent grain at the expense of their own. In 1939, the Poles and Jews began to be evicted. So they, after the entry of Ukrainians into Lviv, should thank the Soviet authorities thanks. Because only they survived
  31. Mikhail
    Mikhail 9 July 2013 19: 47
    Here is the translation of the pennies (forgive me for being clumsy and bezless).

    My beloved Ukraine,
    How long have you been in a dream!
    They ruined you
    Kremlin executioners in the spring.

    Moscow at the biggest executioner
    Wine and luxury were
    And our emaciated girls
    Under the prisons cursed fate.

    Hey listen Stalin
    You’ll drown in the sea of ​​fire!
    Do you dream of destroying us further?
    Dog, you won’t kill us!

    For the black hours of hopelessness
    Mother’s tear
    For all torture and torment
    Pay back my country!

    And strangers will not help -
    Englishman damned and Jew.
    Revenge, brothers Ukrainians,
    To revenge, great people.

    Sorry, the translation is not poetic.

    There is a lot to Paos, but what can he eat only if he is built on a lie.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 9 July 2013 20: 00
      Michael, where can I download such a program to communicate in true Russian? If you have such an opportunity, skinte. I will be grateful!
      1. dominatus
        dominatus 10 July 2013 16: 14
        But truly Russian, for you, what is it? Glagolitic, old - Slavic, the one that was reformed by Peter 1 and used in the Russian Empire?
        1. washi
          washi 12 July 2013 16: 50
          Novgorod letters. Then Kiev did not even have plans
    2. dominatus
      dominatus 10 July 2013 16: 12
      What exactly is a lie?
      Do you want to say that in 1932 - 1933, when millions were starving in the Kremlin, they were starving?
      Do you want to say that thousands found in the Bykovnyansky forest (the outskirts of Kiev, the remains were not shot by the executioners from the NKVD but committed suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head?

      Knowledge of revolutionary grammar does not yet confirm the presence of mind.
      1. Mikhail
        Mikhail 10 July 2013 23: 30
        Do not you get a fucking sound? .. You, I bach, have a rose of whistє. You don’t want to roam with you.
        1. dominatus
          dominatus 10 July 2013 23: 48
          But in fact you can say something. So what's the lie?
      2. washi
        washi 12 July 2013 16: 57
        Do you know the story well?
        To start. Who, where and how did he manage the territory under the name of Ukraine from 1911 to 1939?
        And here is Moscow? And what about Stalin?
        Stalin (let him be a Caucasian) NEVER owned the entire power.
  32. xomaNN
    xomaNN 10 July 2013 17: 41
    Unfortunately, the last UPA in Ukraine are now aggressively raising their heads. And they do not need an objective story at all, they, as in the Hitler Youth, only have zombie installations in use. For the rest, at least the population would be interested to know the story without embellishment and distortion.
  33. bagpipe
    bagpipe 14 July 2013 21: 51
    the material is so-so. along with generally available facts, the author has submitted a lot of fictional and mythical.
    Among the most unlikely and implausible conjectures of the author offhand, we can distinguish the following:
    - Bulba Borovets was actually called Taras and not Vasily, as the author of the material wrote, grew up in a Petliura family and was engaged in nationalist activities since the 30s, long before the start of the war. Since 1941, following an agreement with the German administration, he created self-defense units in Rivne Polesie, the purpose of which was self-defense against those several thousand NKVDs who were surrounded in the Pripyat swamps and lived by robbing the local population. The break with the Germans occurred due to the refusal to participate in anti-Jewish actions in the Olevsk region at the end of 1941. Borovets refusal on the grounds that “Polesskaya Sich” is a Ukrainian formation and is not under the jurisdiction of the German authorities. By the end of 1941. Borovets disbanded its formations and with a small detachment continued to fight the remnants of the NKVDists. Since 1942 Borovets begins a confrontation with the German occupation units. Borovets had no direct clashes with Medvedev. By the way, the Medvedevtsy were by no means "red partisans" but a sabotage detachment of the NKVD, and did not enjoy any support from the local population. Just sabotage and cover for the saboteur and terrorist Kuznetsov. Borovets' detachments have nothing to do with the "Volyn massacre" - the destruction of the Poles - by that time their, these detachments as any tactical unit simply did not exist. So the "memories" of the surviving 5-year-old boy are more of a myth, just like the author's words about hundreds of thousands of fallen Poles.
    By the way - Polish settlements in Volyn appeared en masse after the victorious Soviet - Polish war for Poland. The authorities massively cut land for the veterans of the war with the Bolsheviks on "vsehudnykh". The main population of these villages were just combatants, so there is no need to talk about the Poles as harmless victims. For those who are interested, this can be easily checked - to compare Schubert's maps, for example 21_5 (three-layout) with the Polish P45_S44 edition of 1926. and then look at the pictures on google. The disappeared settlements of Poles are not a direct result of head-on clashes, I don’t know how in other regions, but it was in the Ludwipol region that the UPA gave Poles 48 hours to leave the land. As a rule, the Poles went by train to Poland. Under Ludwipol there was a large village of Zastawie (111 huts), which I have been researching both from archival materials and from conversations of the local population (old people) and with a metal detector for more than 5 years. So, no one has heard of any massacre there, and neither has a frontal attack with numerous victims. Yes, there were serious clashes (rolls in Polish) there were mass casualties, but in Polesie, when they talk about the "massacre", they first recall the events of 41g, the robbery and robbery of the NKVDst (encircled) and from 44, the second arrival of the Soviets with repression and limitlessness. An interesting fact - in the war in Volyn, the UPA initially had little chances - in terms of tactical training and age qualification, the patriots were much inferior to their opponents - both the NKVDstam and the Germans with the Madars and the Home Army. For bagpipers, the war began on September 1, 1939. - it is definitely known that among the defenders of Westerplatte there were guys from Volyn and Polesie, and with the defeat of the Polish army, those who survived ended up in the German camps and the camps of their "allies" - the Soviets. The most combat-ready part of the population of Volyn was destroyed by the Germans in hostilities, and those who served in the eastern garrisons - councils in Katyn. But that is another story.
    When speaking about Ukrainian resistance, it is important to understand the origins and meaning of this movement. To blurt like "they shot in the backs of our miners" is a profanity.