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Challenge the security of Russia. Islamism as a factor in the escalation of ethnic conflicts

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22 May 2013 was held at the Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation a scientific-practical conference on the theme “Islamism and the national security of Russia” was held. The event was attended by 180 people. Abstracts of the main report of Anatoly Kulikov were published in the weekly "MIC" (№ 16, 2013). Today we present to readers the first part of the full version of his speech, as well as excerpts from the most prominent messages from other conference participants.


Bickford effect

Fourteen centuries of Islam exists - the youngest of all world religions and the second most popular after Christianity in Russia. According to the Spiritual Administration of Muslims of the Russian Federation, today 20 of millions of Russians are followers of Islam.

Double of the Kosovo project

Meanwhile, no one knows the true number of believers. A population that regards itself as a Christian, a Jew, or representatives of other faiths, is in fact not so religious and adheres to a greater ideological freedom. But Muslim society is more consistent in its commitment to its religion, from birth to death, many Muslims live their lives, being fanatically ready for self-sacrifice in the name of Allah. It is worth noting that with a high demographic potential, Muslims numerically grow at a steadily fast pace.

According to the forecast of the Carnegie Foundation, by virtue of the high demographic potential of the Muslim population and the immigration inflow, mainly from Muslim countries, by the 2030 year, half of the population of Russia will be Muslim. That is, our already born grandchildren will become an ethnic minority. For a multinational Russia, in which representatives of different ethnic groups and religions have lived in the world for good neighborliness, the preponderance of Muslim peoples can be of great importance. Would not, under the strong influence of radical politicized Islam, Russia be a duplicate of the Kosovo project, only more extensive and with broader consequences?

The essence of Islam and its schools in theoretical terms is difficult to comprehend for adherents of other religions, especially for atheists or agnostics. At the discussion level, partial errors and discrepancies are possible. Our task does not include the analysis of trends in the culture of the Islamic faith. We are interested in the challenges and threats to international and national security that are directly related to the most radical trend in Islam - Islamism.

With all the heterogeneity of Islamic beliefs, with all internal differences, the Muslim world is very united. Therefore, extremist forces, obsessed with the idea of ​​recreating the great Islamic caliphate, have many supporters. This means that for the foreseeable future, the Islamic factor will be a priority when setting the agenda for many forums and international organizations.

Encyclopedic sources give the following definition of Islamism: it is a religious-political ideology and practical activities aimed at creating conditions under which any contradictions within the state where there is a Muslim population, as well as interstate relations with their participation, will be solved on the basis of Sharia norms. Therefore, Islamism is sometimes called a totalitarian ideology that offers solutions to the complex issues of modern life by medieval methods.

The distinctive features of Islamism include the imperative understanding of Allah as the supreme power, the requirement to return to the way of life and religion in the form that was given by the prophet (without subsequent accretions), the observance of active faith, rituals and traditions of the primordial ancestors, all secular superstructures and the unrestricted use of intimidation and violence to achieve their goals, including terror, whereby terrorism is often associated with Islam.

In this construction, Islamism is opposed to Islam itself in its modern form, adapted to the conditions of more or less secular states (that is, free from the influence of religion). Suffice it to say that the so-called Arab Spring came precisely to those states in which the level of secularism by the standards of Islam was exceeded. Only those among them, in which the modernization of the state-political system has not gone too far, retain, albeit tense, but still stability. It is impossible to resist the destructive influence of Islamism on the modern world order without knowing the reasons for it.

Emphasis on worldview

As a phenomenon of wider significance than the fact of a particular religion, Islamism has manifested itself in recent decades. At the end of the twentieth century, the world community was hotly arguing about globalization as a challenge to international security. The knowledge of this process continues in new perspectives. It turns out that among the threats that were considered to be caused by the state of the economy, the exhaustion of resources, growing unemployment and poverty in the populous rogue states, a new factor has emerged - a politicized religious component that can play an independent role. In the context of globalization, this role manifests itself in space and time almost synchronously (for example, the “Arab Spring” in the Middle East and the Pacific Region).

Challenge the security of Russia. Islamism as a factor in the escalation of ethnic conflicts

With an aggressive outbreak of Islamism, instead of purely economic and social conditions, the emphasis is shifted to the ideological level. Today, the Islamists say: “You, unbelievers and infidels, own the main reserves of raw materials and unfairly manage them. You are mired in sin, drunkenness, and drug addiction. Your symbols of equality and freedom are perverted to debauchery. Your church is deceitful. Your laws are inactive. Only Islam and Sharia law can ensure order and justice for all. ”

If these theses were voiced during a direct discussion, it would be difficult to answer adequately to many of them.

Indeed, the Western policy of multiculturalism suffered a defeat. Instead of the high achievements of civilization and the opportunity to become their creator, it presented the Muslim community not its best side - double standards in politics, corruption and free manners in high life, indifference to one’s neighbor under the guise of personal freedom of everyone. Thus, a cynical gap between the proclaimed and actually professed human values ​​has been demonstrated.

Without pretending to the indisputability of the thesis about the crisis of world religions, we note that objectively Christianity is going through hard times all over the world. The problems of the Church are inevitably translated into society. They are generated by numerous scandals related to the violation of vows by clergy in the Catholic, Anglican, Protestant branches of Christianity. As pastors, not much was allowed to say to the cathedral church service (!), But also to those who belong to the subculture of non-traditional minorities. Orthodoxy demonstrates the same weaknesses together with the cult of luxury among priests. The latter, loving all that is beautiful and precious, in their sermons condemn the sinful desire of man for material goods. Most recently, the mentioning of the sin of Sodom was indecent, today Europe is de jure and de facto gripped by the insanity of change in marriage. Are not there reasons to condemn modern society as having reached the very bottom of the fall? And all these reasons Islamism skillfully uses.

Previously, differences in the behavior of representatives of the Islamic and non-Islamic religions were reduced to differences in rituals, clothing and food. Today, the dividing line lies predominantly on attitudes towards moral standards, unshakable in Islam and devalued in the gentile and secular psychology. In Islam, the desecration of sacred values ​​and concepts threatens with the physical destruction of a person who has encroached upon the shrines (let us remember the artists and writers who have passed in the works of the acceptable limit). In other religions, this is no more than a pretext for cultural urological controversy (pornography in Cologne Cathedral or the trick of “performance musicians” in the Cathedral of Christ the Savior).

Laws in secular states are written and enforced by people. Errors in law enforcement, their excessive humanity or rigidity is also a consequence of subjective consciousness and behavior. In different states, violations of the rules (including criminal acts) are classified differently, the laws are unstable. In modern Russia, it also happens that the law has not yet come into force, and amendments are being made to it. In contrast to the secular Sharia law “given from above” - is a set of eternal, universal rules, provides for the equality of all before Allah and Sharia. In all Muslim communities, its interpretation and application are identical, which is demonstrated as an advantage of the Islamic world order.

However, the main reason for the radicalization of Islam is, in our opinion, the desire of radical Islamic circles to expand their territorial presence, to seize new lands, world wealth and the masses of the population. This is called the creation of a world caliphate.

But how does Islamism manifest itself in Russia and does it threaten its security?

Doubtful favor

On the territory of modern Russia, Islam appeared already in the VII century, that is, immediately after its inception in 610 – 613 AD. The ways of its penetration are different. Islam was brought to the Volga region along with merchant bales from the Central Asian regions. Its formation was facilitated by the Golden Horde conquest and long Tatar-Mongol domination.

Due to the fact that after the Baptism of Russia the state religion became Orthodoxy, the confession of other religions by the conquered peoples was not encouraged by the state authorities, but was not prosecuted. True, it concerned only the common people, and the imams, khans and Murza were in disfavor.

According to the findings of modern Islamic scholarship during the period of the reign of Empress Catherine the Great, there was not so much the violent Christianization of the non-Russian peoples of the Russian Empire, but their violent Islamization. When the throne reeled under the empress because of the growing popular discontent, she, fearing the spread of Pugachevism, decided to win over the Muslim class. According to her order, the Spiritual Administration of the Muslims was created in Ufa, a significant salary was determined from the treasury to the Islamic servants, their social status was raised, and with it the influence on the Muslim population. The recognition of Islam has become an obvious fact. Followed by the rapid flourishing of its institutions. The number of mosques increased more than 57 times and reached 6763. Such a surge was not observed even in the sterile Islamic statehood of Iran.

The subsequent sovereigns did not weaken attention to the Islamic factor. So, with the approval of Emperor Nikolai Pavlovich in the 1850 year, at the expense of the treasury, the Principles of Muslim jurisprudence were published. The idea of ​​this work was that the national policy of the state should take into account the peculiarities of the ethnos, studied with examples of the colonial policies of the West. The governors of the king in the Muslim territories reacted to the publication with restraint. They could not fail to pay attention to the following key message, formulated in the "Beginnings ...": "All the states and countries in which the Muslim faith was established are governed by the same laws, which all derive from the same source, which is the Quran ". To this work and today turned the eyes of researchers of Islam. This is certainly an interesting study, and yet it is a generalized experience of Islamic law in the colonies. And the Muslims of Russia were full-fledged citizens of the empire, the integrity of which was ensured, including the unity of legislation.

Islam favors continued until the 1917 year. For seven decades, revolutionary consciousness has firmly replaced all religions. In the eighties of the twentieth century with the winds of restructuring in Russia came deideologization, freedom of religion and freedom in the truest sense. It was the Muslim states of Central Asia who were the first to separate from the USSR (of course, the Balts left the Soviet Union earlier, but the nature of their separation was different). Thoughts on sovereignty began to capture the minds of the leaders of national autonomies in the Russian Federation itself. The new Russian bureaucracy, unwittingly, used Yekaterininsky experience of soft coercion to loyalty: the imams, according to the muftis themselves, received a good salary from the state. Mosques and madrasas are multiplying in the national republics, Islamic universities are opening.

Despite the fact that Islam favored Islam, today the influence of imams on the minds of believers does not meet the interests of society, since not all of them have managed to become leaders. Muslims began to look for a solution to the personnel problem abroad. In Islam, the liturgical and sacred is considered only one language - Arabic. All over the world, an Islamic preacher will be understood both while serving in a mosque and at a lecture from the department of the Islamic University. Therefore, in our institutions preachers and Islamic scholars from Algeria, Indonesia, Morocco, Jordan, Pakistan and other missionaries are freely missionary. Thus, new spiritual leaders came to our country’s territory, for whom Russia was not their homeland, whose worldview was not connected with it.

Causes of internal and external

Among the internal factors affecting the modern radicalization of Islam are, first of all, the sharp differentiation of social groups after the unfair privatization of state property, as well as the collapse of the production sphere, unemployment and the impoverishment of the population. The culprits of all this were the atheists, the unfaithful and conformist secular leadership. Against this background, the authority of the muftis, the imams, began to rise above state institutions. A serious problem turned out to be the unemployment and the futility of the future for the most socially active population in the republics of the North Caucasus.

Another reason for radicalization is the outflow of the Russian-speaking (mainly Slavic) population, which played a connecting role in a multi-ethnic society. According to various estimates, 1989 – 2002 left thousands of people from the North Caucasus in the 415 – 420 years. This figure is reasonably questioned, since only in Chechnya and only during the period of military conflict did the share of Russians decrease by more than 30 times, that is, by 280 – 300 thousand people.

The absence of ideology and a unifying national idea, the aggravation of mutual territorial claims within the Muslim community, on the basis of which radical moods and extremism arose, corruption and deafness of power to the needs of the common man - all this was among the reasons for the radicalization of Islam in the newest Russian stories. Corruption and lawlessness have reached the ultimate level. In some cases, the population demanded management from the federal center and did not meet with understanding. The preachers, meanwhile, offered an alternative - promoting the creation of a world caliphate, that is, states with such undeniable values ​​as equality, social justice and sharia regulation of all aspects of life.

The political forces in these conditions were not negotiable. For corporate interests, they did not want to see a common threat emanating from a cohesive and aggressive Islamist front, highly motivated by the idea of ​​creating a single state, inspired daily by the feat against the infidels. And this against the background, when a growing number of mosques and madrasahs, as well as cultural and educational centers, not only is motivated by the revival of faith, but also contributes to the consolidation of radical sentiments, becoming a kind of ideological centers influencing the political processes in their region.

In Russia over the past 20 years, the number of mosques has increased 72 times: in Tatarstan there are more than 1100, Bashkortostan - 470, Chechnya - 465, Ingushetia - 300, Dagestan - over 2000 (in 1989, in this republic there were 27). Experts believe that Dagestan is the center of Islamism in the Russian Federation, promoting it to other regions of the country.

As for the external factors contributing to the radicalization of Islam in Russia, then, of course, first of all it concerns the freedom of movement around the world. The opened picture of the world showed Muslims that not a single society in which power belongs to the “infidel” does not correspond to ideals. With the opening of borders, Muslims had the opportunity to receive education abroad. An increasing number of Muslims has become an accessible dream of making a hajj, since this dream is being carried out with foreign donations. In Soviet times, only a few dozen people from all over the Union could afford it, now - tens of thousands. For example, in 2012, 20,7, thousands of Muslims from 55 regions of Russia became pilgrims.

The radicalization of Islam in the Russian Federation is promoted not only by the involvement of all Muslims in such a transnational project as the creation of a world caliphate, but also by armed conflicts with their participation. Russia takes a position opposite to them or neutral to the interests of the Muslim Brotherhood (for example, in Serbia over Kosovo, in Syria, Egypt, Libya, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan - with their internal opposition, in the Arab-Israeli confrontation, in Afghanistan etc.).

Islamic experts studying the causes of the radicalization of Islam within Russian Islam believe that the “clumsy” policy of the central government, illiterate actions of the army, undiplomatic and ignorant tactics of the regional leadership, which led to undermining the prestige of the government as a guarantor of the security of citizens, are to blame. It was the short-sighted policy of the federal center that led to the transformation of ordinary separatism into nationalism with terrorist manifestations, and religion in the regions quickly became radicalized. In the history of the Caucasian peoples, religion has repeatedly become the banner of both national and social protest.

Muslim country

Immigration has a great influence on the growth of the number of Muslims. This is largely facilitated by the “leaky” migration policy of the Russian Federation, which by its passivity only stimulates the influx of foreigners, mostly Muslims.

Today, the overpopulation of immigrants in many regions of Russia has become a fact that does not require proof, and creates many problems of a socio-economic, religious and domestic political nature.

It is not just the national composition that is changing, but the cultural code of a secular state itself. Residents of Russian cities are traditionally multinational, but they are not ready to accept the specific features of the rituals arising from Muslim canons (namaz on squares, ritual sacrifices, invocations of muezzins, hijabs, niqabs, etc.).

Attempts by the Moscow authorities to familiarize migrants with Russian culture failed. The program “Museums for Migrants”, created in 2012, in which visitors were supposed to be acquainted with the history and culture of Moscow, was unclaimed: migrants did not go to museums. Moreover, they understood this proposal as a workload and demanded an appropriate remuneration - from 300 to 500 rubles per visit.

In megacities, educational institutions are overflowing with representatives of other states and ethnic groups, for whom study is impossible in the educational and economic sense. This reduces the overall level of education provided by the school, since the study time for the rest of the students is irrational.

Medical care for migrants costs the Russian taxpayer. In Russian orphanages, a growing number of children who refuse migrants from Central Asian states. Women who gave birth out of wedlock are afraid of shame in their homeland and do not want to support and raise their children.

The inability of immigrants to reckon with the local way of life, their unwillingness to cognitively and respectfully relate to culture and language, the burden on the social sphere at the expense of Russian taxpayers cause quite understandable rejection of the indigenous population. Unfortunately, the power instead of finding specific solutions to the problem is limited to a ban on its public discussion. From this, the threat of interethnic tension does not become less, as the interests of representatives of all social and national strata — indigenous and immigrants — remain disadvantaged.

All this contributes to the growth of nationalist sentiments among the indigenous population, which is no better than Islamist extremism, arousing fear of the intervention of a foreign, unfriendly culture. A critical look at the behavior of the “aliens” is mechanically transferred to “our own” ...

The effect of Bickford fuse cord is ready to work at any time.

Anatoly Kulikov,
President of the Club of Military Commanders of the Russian Federation, Doctor of Economics, Army General


Religious Terrorism Prevention

At present, we are fixing a number of new factors and manifestations testifying to a further change in the nature of terrorist manifestations.

The active propaganda of radical ideology by terrorists using both religious organizations and religious institutions, as well as modern means of communication - social networks, thematic Internet sites allows you to recruit new supporters remotely, to promote the emergence of independent terrorist cells, as well as single terrorists.

The bombings in Boston are an extremely alarming signal, indicating the possibility of the emergence of autonomous terrorist formations on the territory of even the so-called prosperous states.

At the heart of such manifestations is the phenomenon of self-radicalization. Terrorist recruiters do not directly psychological processing of potential supporters, but create conditions for the primary interest and independent acquisition by interested persons of the knowledge necessary to participate in terrorist activities.

The likelihood of scaling scenarios like the Boston one enhances the emerging process of active participation of representatives of various states, including European, in armed conflicts in the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa. Assimilation of the militants to the conditions of the so-called developed countries and their citizenship of European and other states give a special danger to this situation.

A special operation conducted by security agencies in Orekhovo-Zuevo, Moscow Region, shows the relevance of this trend for Russia. The activities of a group of three militants who planned to commit an act of terrorism in Moscow were stopped (two were killed in the course of resistance, one was detained). All the criminals are Russian citizens, they came from the Afghanistan-Pakistan region, where they underwent combat training.

ABC novice "bomber"

At the end of last year, 316 crimes of a terrorist nature were recorded, the overwhelming majority of which are connected with the activities of a bandit underground in the North Caucasus. Over 60 percent of their total number committed in the Republic of Dagestan. Tensions are noted in the Republic of Ingushetia, in the Kabardino-Balkarian and Chechen Republics.

Despite the measures taken to neutralize the criminal activities of gangs, the process of their reproduction practically does not stop. It is obvious that only forceful methods of struggle are incapable of eliminating this phenomenon to the full. The threat will persist as long as there is a system for reproducing the infrastructure of terrorism, the key elements of which are the ideology of terrorism, the instigators and carriers of the terrorist idea, as well as its distribution channels.

Our main task is to, against the background of preserving and strengthening the force component of the struggle against specific terrorist manifestations, drastically increase the effectiveness of countering the ideology of terrorism, and put reliable barriers to its penetration into public consciousness.

At present, the terrorists have chosen and primarily used the ideology of radical Islam (the so-called Islamism) to create an ideological platform for their activities.

The main ideological tenets of the leaders of the bandit underground used to attract new members are the rejection of the values ​​not only of secular society, but also of traditional Islam, the priority of using extremist and terrorist methods to combat them. Also in the set of "ideology" of the Islamists is the planting in the ranks of his supporters and individuals subjected to psychological treatment, a complex of "offenses" for the "genocide that lasts for centuries and the oppression of titular nations" by the "culturally, ethnically and spiritually alien imperial federal center." Distrust of the federal and regional authorities as corrupt entities that are unable to ensure the realization of the interests of the population and solve acute socio-economic and political problems is widely supported. This justifies the need to create parallel power structures, whose activities are based on the canons of Shari'a, and intended to carry out not only spiritual and moral, but also legal, as well as administrative and administrative functions.

The system of views imposed by extremists is for many, especially young people, quite attractive because of the simplicity and uniqueness of their postulates, promises to immediately see the end result of their aggressive actions. The need for personal participation in the complex and painstaking process of economic, political and social development of the country and society is replaced by primitive calls for the complete destruction of existing foundations and replacing them with utopian projects. Instead of a time-consuming and lengthy study of theological and philosophical sciences, which allow to form a complete picture of the world and religion, the ideologists of terrorism propose a set of carefully selected quotations from the Koran and the Hadith, justifying the need for constant struggle against kafirs and munafik.

Counteraction to the spread of terrorist teachings with a religious tint is being built in the Russian Federation as part of the general system of countering the ideology of terrorism.

By the decision of the President of the Russian Federation, the National Anti-Terrorism Committee has been identified as the main coordinator of activities to counter the ideology of terrorism in the country, combining the efforts of twenty government agencies. In everyday mode, the coordination function is provided by its permanent body - the committee's staff.

In the regions, this work is entrusted to the antiterrorist commissions in the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, and at the local level - to the antiterrorist commissions in municipalities. The practical role of the latter is exceptionally high: it is their representatives who have sustained everyday contact with the population, the possibilities for conducting targeted work with specific citizens subject to the influence of radical ideologies.

The created system allows the integration of the efforts of the authorities both vertically - from the federal to the municipal level, and horizontally, using the capabilities of the authorities, above all the civil one, and not just the power unit. Structures that implement state policy in the field of education, culture, sports, work with youth, etc. are connected to counteracting the ideology of terrorism.

Against extremist ideology

At present, a new work plan has been adopted to address the main tasks of countering the ideology of terrorism. These include, first of all, an explanation of the essence of terrorism and its extreme public danger, as well as the holding of active measures to create a strong public rejection of the ideology of terrorism in its various manifestations, including religious and political extremism. In addition, we are talking about creating and using mechanisms to protect the information space of the Russian Federation from penetrating any ideas that justify terrorist activities, as well as creating and improving legislative, regulatory, organizational and other mechanisms that contribute to the effective implementation of measures to counter the ideology of terrorism.

As part of the plan, the necessary support is provided to those social structures whose activities are aimed at increasing the level of inter-religious and inter-ethnic trust. Such organizations exist in every region and their importance cannot be overestimated. In addition, each subject of the Russian Federation has its own unique projects.

Separately, it should be noted the creation of commissions in a number of republics of the North Caucasus to adapt to peaceful life of persons who have decided to stop terrorist activities. These structures, which include representatives of various authorities, including law enforcement agencies, demonstrate the actual readiness of the state to engage in dialogue with persons who recognize the infidelity and hopelessness of their activities, and contribute to the actual withdrawal of people "from the forest." Thanks to such preventive work, last year they voluntarily declared the termination of the terrorist activities of 52 people, and in four and a half months of this year, already 38.

Targeted events are held (meetings, methodological classes, conversations) with certain categories of citizens most exposed to the ideology of terrorism, including students and students, people from Muslim states, representatives of ethnic religious diasporas, persons serving sentences for extremist and terrorist activities, former members of gangs.

A positive tendency is the participation in them not only of representatives of executive bodies, but also of scientific and creative intelligentsia, authorities of religious and national communities.

The state and public institutions must work together to influence citizens' legal consciousness in such a way as to form an absolute, almost physiological rejection of the very idea of ​​forcibly solving any tasks facing the society and its individual representatives.

Only by putting a reliable barrier in the path of the spread of the ideology of terrorism can we eradicate or reduce to a socially acceptable level one of the biggest threats of our time - the threat of terrorism and other extremist manifestations of a violent nature.

Evgeny Ilyin,
First Deputy Chief of Staff of the National Anti-Terrorism Committee, PhD in Law, Lieutenant General


Conflict arc section

Today, the nature of the politicization of Islam, which became a decisive force at the turn of the 20th and 21st centuries, largely influences the nature of interethnic relations. The radicalization of many of his movements, professing the concept of “war with the infidels”, led to the aggravation of contradictions both within the Muslim world and with other world religions - Christianity, Judaism, etc.

Because of this, interethnic conflicts in various regions of the world, as well as on the territory of the post-Soviet space and Russia in the late twentieth and early twenty-first century, were nothing more than the next stage (after Afghanistan) of the clashes of these religions. It is not by chance that in the theory of geopolitics today, the concept of a “conflict arc” is the most popular, denoting areas covering the continent of Eurasia from the south and southwest, in which an overwhelming number of armed clashes occur on ethnoconfessional basis.

Attention, the threat is activated

Many experts associate a new stage of escalation of ethnic conflicts at the turn of the XX – XXI centuries with the increasing globalization and further aggravation of geopolitical contradictions between the world centers of power, leading the struggle for the redivision of the world. The main vector of confrontation today is in the area of ​​US relations with the forces of radical Islam.


An attempt to involve one or another state in this confrontation leads to the expansion of hotbeds of tension throughout the world (the Balkans, Afghanistan, the Middle East, North Africa and others). At the same time, events in the North Caucasus, as well as in certain regions of the post-Soviet space, especially in Central or Central Asia, are of increasing concern for the military-political leadership of Russia.

The further development of the military-political situation in these territories largely depends on the processes of political settlement of the events in Afghanistan, in whose territory about five to six million Tajiks currently live, 1,5 million Uzbeks, about one million Turkmen. In the event of an escalation of the armed conflict in Afghanistan, which is expected in 2014, after the withdrawal of the main forces of the international coalition, hostilities may spread to the former Soviet republics of Central Asia. The Russian Federation may be drawn into these conflicts with the resulting financial, human and moral costs.

Additional influence will be exacerbated by interethnic conflicts in the North Caucasus and the Volga region. In the future, the vectors of these threats may be aimed at splitting our country along the lines of Afghanistan - Tajikistan - Kyrgyzstan - Kazakhstan - on the one hand, driving a kind of wedge from the North Caucasus along the Volga - on the other, and further separating the Urals and Siberia from the European part of Russia, followed by fragmentation of its territory.

Taking into account the multi-ethnic and multi-religious nature of the population of the Russian Federation, this may lead to unpredictable consequences. A more serious threat in this regard is the North Caucasus, where more than 120 nations live. The destabilizing factors here are primarily ethnonational and territorial contradictions and conflicts (Georgia and South Ossetia, Georgia and Abkhazia, Chechnya and Dagestan, Ingushetia and North Ossetia). Experts believe that today in the North Caucasus there are about 70 local latent foci of interethnic tension. Given the clan-like relationship of the peoples of the North Caucasus, this problem may turn out to be insoluble.

Basis for new collisions

Crisis phenomena in the region in the field of ethno-confessional relations are connected with the corruption of local ruling elites, their professional incompetence and the inability to effectively counter terrorist and criminal groups. These problems became the object of close attention of Vladimir Putin at a meeting of the Council on Interethnic Relations under the President of the Russian Federation.

In the course of the work of the council, the main threats that we face today are identified. There are a lot of factors for destabilization of the ethnic and confessional situation in Russia. At the same time, the Islamic factor is becoming decisive today and creates a potential basis for new conflicts and wars.

The country's leadership proposed an entire Strategy of the State National Policy of the Russian Federation for the period up to 2025 (Presidential Decree No. 1666 of 19.12.2012), in which it is proposed to implement a wide range of measures aimed at improving the situation. The implementation of this strategy rests on a number of serious management problems. First of all, this lack of a clear interdepartmental interaction on the implementation of this policy and weak prevention.

Therefore, the important task of ensuring the national security of Russia today is the problem of finding new, most effective ways to resolve conflict situations and prevent them from escalating into active combat zones.

Throughout the modern history of Russia, the attitude of the public to ethno-confessional problems has changed depending on how acutely these issues have been put on the agenda of the political life of our state. Until the beginning of the 90-ies of the XX century, this topic remained one of the little-studied in the domestic literature. In contrast to Western studies, in our science for a long time there was an opinion about the “resolution of this issue in the USSR”.

The possibility of a real scientific approach to understanding this problem appeared only after the collapse of the USSR, which turned into a tragic fate for millions of people in various regions of the country. But at the beginning of the XXI century, this problem began to go out of sight of the authorities, and then of science. It was decided to liquidate the Ministry of National Affairs, closed the department in schools that are actively engaged in ethno-religious relations.

They were replaced by other topics related to international terrorism, globalization, etc. According to some scholars, this was a kind of attempt to overlook the severity of the problem of the Islamic factor, which would be resolved by itself.

And at this time, as the migration processes in the world and Russia increased, the contradictions in this area were not only intensified, but also complicated by the complicated geopolitical situation and internal problems. As a result, today we are facing a new danger, which we have forgotten, and now, unfortunately, we do not fully represent its possible consequences. This explains some confusion of power in the first days after the events on Manezhnaya Square and a number of serious terrorist acts at Domodedovo airport and in the Caucasus.

The problem of ethno-confessional relations must be dealt with by all the authorities, and constantly, and not from time to time. This thought became the leading one in the report of the President of the Russian Federation at the meeting of the State Council, which took place immediately after the well-known events.

The solution of the problem of ethno-confessional relations lies to a greater extent beyond its borders. In real life, no such conflict manifests itself in its pure form. It will always carry on, on the one hand, political opposition, and on the other, economic and social.

Vladimir Suvorov,
Head of the Department of Public Administration and National Security of VAGSH, Doctor of Political Sciences, Professor, full member of the Academy of Military Sciences, Major General


Stop social transformation

The Islamic factor has a significant impact on the formation of modern Russian society. And of course, the main threat to Russia is Islamic terrorism, extremism and radicalism. If you do not take action now, these forces will take control of the Volga region and the North Caucasus, which is fraught for Russia not only with the problem of refugees, but also with the threat of the dismemberment of the country, a cardinal undermining of the economy.

This problem should be solved at once in several directions.

1. Ensure the demand and employment of labor resources in the North Caucasus. In the cities, by restoring or creating new large industrial enterprises (like those that existed in the region before the beginning of the 90). In mountainous regions, creating small enterprises for processing agricultural products, developing local handicrafts, etc.

It should adjust the line to create new tourist areas. Investment in ski resorts is justified only in those places where you can guarantee security. In the area of ​​Makhachkala and Kaspiisk there are objective conditions for creating a resort area like the one that exists on the Black Sea coast. Now the lands in this area, which are by law federal property, are seized and divided by local nouveau riche.

2. It is necessary to develop an effective youth policy taking into account religious and ethno-cultural peculiarities. Today, in the North Caucasus, young people are the main breeding ground for the spread of extremist ideas.

3. The creation of a domestic model of Muslim education is required, which would allow to seize the initiative from foreign centers in the field of full-time and distance learning. It is advisable to create an Islamic university for the entire Volga-Ural region, that is, outside the organizational or target destination for the national republics. Its location could be Nizhny Novgorod.

4. In parallel with changes in the system of Islamic education in areas inhabited by Muslims, it is necessary to develop a system of secular educational institutions. A fruitful idea is the development in the North Caucasus of educational institutions of the type of technical schools with the involvement of highly qualified teachers from other regions of Russia for training on the order of corporations and departments the necessary specialists, including their subsequent referral to work in other regions.

5. It is necessary to prepare a new generation of Islamic scholars who know the realities and languages ​​of Russian Muslims. A program of regular comprehensive research on the traditions of Russian Muslims should be developed on the basis of cooperation of scientists from the federal center and regions, under the auspices and guidance of the Institute of Oriental Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences with appropriate financial support.

6. We need a well-thought-out information policy on Islamic issues, including the publication of printed materials (periodical, educational and analytical, analytical), the creation of websites and an Internet portal.

7. Measures are required for a significant organizational and material strengthening of existing organizations - the Foundation for Support of Islamic Culture, Science and Education and the Russia-Islamic World Strategic Vision Group (especially in terms of organizing contacts with Islamic movements and parties abroad on an ongoing basis).

8. In order to reduce migration flows from the south of Russia and from neighboring Islamic countries, it is necessary to pay special attention to the acute problem of reducing the number of Russian population.

Thus, we will be able to reverse the existing negative trend of social transformation of society and outline the positive vector of its development.

Viktor Barynkin,
Chairman of the VAGSh Doctoral Council, Colonel General
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  1. krasin
    krasin 19 June 2013 08: 50
    +7
    May 22, 2013 at the Military Academy of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, a scientific and practical conference on the topic "Islamism and National Security of Russia" was held.

    Finally, they are at the highest level considering the issues of Islamization, regarding the country's security.
    I think they will make decisions regarding this infection. hi
    1. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 19 June 2013 21: 04
      +2
      "I think they will make decisions regarding this infection."
      Already accepted
      http://migrant.ferghana.ru/tag/kvota
      but no good news ...
      The penetration of religion into government structures brings with it religious strife! My opinion is that religion should be limited as it was with smoking - no religious figures in government offices, schools, kindergartens, the army! If you really need to communicate with the clergy, go to a church or mosque.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 20 June 2013 00: 38
        +2
        Here one of two things is either to extinguish them at the first attempt to rock the boat, or to submit. If only that photo of Red Square is not photoshop, I sincerely pity Russia and the Russian people. Islamic fascism can achieve that Hitler’s fascism failed to conquer Russia and destroy the Russian people as an ethnos, because the Muslim Russian is no longer Russian (the same applies to any nationality), his country is a caliphate, his people are ummah, his the law is sharia.
        Yes, of course, in the West, too, is not ideal, here is liberalism, and tolerance, and other mischief. But, at least in America, society received a strong vaccine from Islam on September 9, 2001. As for Europe, it was not in vain called Eurabia, although healthy forces remained there. Who will forbid to build minarets, who is to wear the veil in public, in general, there is still hope.
        And the hope is that Muslims are divided into sects and cannot agree at all whose Allah is greater. While the Sunnis enthusiastically slaughter Shiites, and they respond with complete reciprocity, they are not up to everyone else.
        1. matross
          matross 20 June 2013 00: 52
          0
          Quote: Nagan
          While the Sunnis enthusiastically slaughter Shiites, and they respond with complete reciprocity, they are not up to everyone else.

          This is idealism and rose-colored glasses. They care about "everyone else". Islamic missionary work is everywhere. Compared to him, "Hello, you believe in God" - crap. The question of survival becomes - kill or dissolve!
        2. Setrac
          Setrac 20 June 2013 01: 00
          0
          Quote: Nagan
          If only that photo of Red Square is not a photoshop

          Relax, this is Photoshop.
  2. Committee
    Committee 19 June 2013 08: 56
    +5
    Forgot to add paragraph 9: total destruction. Only power and power again.
  3. fzr1000
    fzr1000 19 June 2013 08: 59
    23
    You need to pray at home or in a mosque. Anyone who did not fit in or did not have time to pick up in a wagon and for 15 days for an unauthorized meeting. The second time is a year. We have a secular state. Who does not like let him go to Afghanistan and other e ... nya.
    1. Klin klinovv
      Klin klinovv 19 June 2013 12: 53
      0
      well done! in the top ten laid out.
    2. AntonR7
      AntonR7 19 June 2013 21: 29
      0
      I agree completely, Islam seems to itself contributes to radicalism, because for all Muslims, the rest of the people are wrong, and therefore wrong. I highly recommend watching a video explaining the Islam of the priest Daniil Sysoev competently tells. And one more thing, not only is the mosque getting bigger than necessary, they also call them after people who fought against the Russians and it’s easy to get stunned in Russia, namely, in Kazan there is the Kul-Sharif mosque that imam kept Kazan’s defense against Ivan the Terrible.
  4. Natalia
    Natalia 19 June 2013 09: 05
    15
    To close the entrance and drive away the remaining migrant workers, the issue of Islamization will be removed by itself. Today, after 4 citizens of the Russian Federation, 1 Gaster is found, and in some cities it is even worse. Let Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan independently solve the problems of high unemployment and low living standards, because we are not obliged to solve such problems for them, the RSFSR is no longer part of the general.
    How to place NATO bases at home is in the forefront, and how to solve problems is Russia.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 19 June 2013 13: 00
      +1
      Quote: Natalia
      To close the entrance and drive away the remaining migrant workers, the issue of Islamization will be removed by itself. Today, after 4 citizens of the Russian Federation, 1 Gaster is found, and in some cities it is even worse. Let Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan independently solve the problems of high unemployment and low living standards, because we are not obliged to solve such problems for them, the RSFSR is no longer part of the general.
      How to place NATO bases at home is in the forefront, and how to solve problems is Russia.

      Natalia will tell you a secret, just the inhabitants of the North Caucasus, and not the natives of Asia or the South Caucasus, radicalize everyone. I am surprised when this radicalization is transferred to Asiatic visitors.
      1. dark_65
        dark_65 19 June 2013 13: 44
        0
        It is wrong to expel unequivocally, without mass and tacit support of this mass, the Caucasus and Ufa are not afraid.
        The Caucasus, well, from the strength of 20-30 thousand frostbites, Kazan, and Ufa is the same, a little in principle, but this muslim swamp can explode at any time.
      2. Natalia
        Natalia 19 June 2013 14: 19
        +2
        Quote: Yeraz
        Natalia will tell you a secret, just the inhabitants of the North Caucasus, and not the natives of Asia or the South Caucasus, radicalize everyone. I am surprised when this radicalization is transferred to Asiatic visitors.

        As I said, let a) Tajikistan, b) Uzbekistan, c) Kyrgyzstan - independently solve their problems of high unemployment and low wages ... you don’t need to go to us, they are still not Russian citizens.
        Yes, and most of them are contagious contagious go.
      3. MAG
        MAG 19 June 2013 18: 57
        0
        I want to ask, is it true that Russia transfers a certain amount of hectares of its territory to Azerbaijan, but what if a piece of Dagestan is for cheap oil? and what do you write about it?
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 19 June 2013 20: 42
          0
          Quote: MAG
          I want to ask, is it true that Russia transfers a certain amount of hectares of its territory to Azerbaijan, but what if a piece of Dagestan is for cheap oil? and what do you write about it?

          I live in Russia in Russia. Such information as you can only learn from the Internet.
          Regarding the fact that Baku and Moscow successfully agree only to rejoice, and how much and to whom, well, I’ll only see official documents or the speeches of officials. For no reason we will not be based on the currently signed treaties between the countries.
  5. domokl
    domokl 19 June 2013 09: 07
    +8
    Very seriously and thoughtfully. The problem has been recognized and an active search for solutions has begun. I look forward to continuing the conversation.
    1. dmb
      dmb 19 June 2013 11: 09
      +4
      Eka you mahanuli. Serious and thoughtful. Only the last field marshal has a little bit specific proposals, and even then they look more like good wishes than an action plan. I will keep silent about Kulikov. It turns out that he was not the Minister of Internal Affairs and the Prime Minister. And, among other things, it was not with him that there was "the awkward policy of the Center, the wrong actions of the army, etc." Although I will make a reservation, all this really took place mainly when he was only the head of the Internal Affairs Directorate for the North Caucasus, i.e. the usual escort. One thing is true in speeches. The authorities are trying to put religion at their service. And if with Orthodoxy, this is a possible option, then with Islam these things will definitely end in a caliphate. All the participants in the next "round-square" table know perfectly well what needs to be done, but they do not want to say it out loud due to their positions and commercial interests. And the recipes are generally not complicated. Well, first of all, you need to respect your own Constitution, and if the church is separated from the state, its ministers, regardless of denomination, should not be supported at public expense, including in the army and educational institutions. Secondly, any leader, at any level and in any region, who has just given a hint about the introduction of mandatory religious rules in secular life, should leave his chair with the speed of a rocket. Thirdly. The not very glorious descendants of the glorious Chekist warriors should pay less attention to showdowns in commercial interests, and more to masters trained abroad and their sermons. I'm not talking about foreign preachers, because this is solved by an elementary visa refusal. Well, and perhaps the most important thing, which was indirectly mentioned by the "round table", is the attractiveness of Islamism in view of the existing social inequality. But this is the basis, if you do not want to be Islamized, including as Europe, you will have to return to socialism. Here's just how to deal with the members of the Ozero cooperative in this case.
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 19 June 2013 14: 22
        +1
        Quote: dmb
        dmb

        Plus, Dmitry, for the comment.
        Quote: dmb
        Well, first you need to respect your own Constitution, and if the church is separated from the state, its ministers, regardless of denomination, should not be kept at public expense

        The most important thing.
        Quote: dmb
        But this is the basis, do not want to Islamize, including as Europe, you will have to return to socialism.

        And this should be the basis.
        Quote: dmb
        Here is just how to deal with the members of the Ozero cooperative in this case.

        Gulag Archipelago. There is no other option.
  6. Hleb
    Hleb 19 June 2013 09: 07
    +1
    to the topic morning song
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvy_8_liXVE
  7. O_RUS
    O_RUS 19 June 2013 09: 18
    0
    "If measures are not taken now, these forces will take control of the Volga and North Caucasus regions, which is fraught for Russia not only with the problem of refugees, but also with the threat of dismemberment of the country and a cardinal disruption of the economy."

    - measures need to be taken yesterday. Kohl cool animals lifted up a tail ... it means somewhere they missed with their tolerance ... to lisp
  8. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 19 June 2013 09: 19
    +1
    not a simple problem ... warmed up from the West. We ourselves must solve it without blood. But the main thing is not to yield to extremism.
  9. pa_nik
    pa_nik 19 June 2013 09: 39
    +1
    Quote: fzr1000
    Anyone who did not fit in or did not have time to pick up in a wagon and for 15 days for an unauthorized meeting.


    It's a pity, you can't add more than once drinks
  10. pa_nik
    pa_nik 19 June 2013 09: 42
    +6
    Quote: Natalia
    To close the entrance and drive away the remaining migrant workers, the issue of Islamization will be removed by itself.


    By the way, the clever Japanese decided that question ... google it on this topic! On September 11 they were asked: "How will you solve the issue of Islamic terrorism?" And they: "We do not have these problems, because we do not have Islam. It is prohibited at the state level." AND EVERYTHING. hi
    1. Diamond
      Diamond 19 June 2013 13: 54
      0
      golden laws
    2. Obliterator
      Obliterator 19 June 2013 15: 04
      +1
      He is not prohibited. In Japan there are mosques and Muslims, just a few and the Japanese themselves among Muslims are very few, more and more foreigners. In such circumstances, it’s quite difficult to stir up your bandit underground; for sure, every Japanese Muslim in person knows the representatives of state security.
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    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 10: 54
      +4
      It's time to finally stop blindly insulting someone else's religion.
      1. RPD
        RPD 19 June 2013 13: 05
        +6
        It is "time to finally stop" imposing an alien religion on everyone. and ... not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim
        1. DAGESTAN333
          DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 14: 01
          +1
          ... yes, of course it’s not necessary to impose ... The truth remains, to decide at the legislative level, what is the imposition in this case ...
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 19 June 2013 16: 33
            +1
            Quote: DAGESTANETS333
            It is "time to finally stop" imposing an alien religion on everyone.

            That is, it’s enough to support the Russian Orthodox Church (which is not Russian at all) at the state level, let them fight for the flock on a common basis.
            Quote: DAGESTANETS333
            It's time to finally stop blindly insulting someone else's religion.

            Some people think that radical Islamism grows from Islam, but this is not true, the feet of radical Islam grow from London and Fashington and has a financial basis, not a religious basis.
            1. RPD
              RPD 20 June 2013 09: 19
              0
              how good, he committed a vile terrorist act and immediately "he is a wrong Muslim", and before that he went and wrote and pooped like a true Muslim and handled with him and shared bread and did not see the suicide bomber on him
      2. dark_65
        dark_65 19 June 2013 13: 55
        +2
        No doubt, religion should not be touched, but people who distort it ?.
        Can you explain this to people living in fear?
        But it will not last long, it will explode.
        I don’t need the religion of the prophet, and I don’t want to live according to his laws, this is my historical homeland, with my existing way of life .. Again, it’s deeply purple for me how religion develops in your region, when I come, I naturally will not offend people's feelings living there
        In my opinion, this is not difficult, and humanly.
        1. DAGESTAN333
          DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 14: 33
          +1
          Quote: dark_65
          and people distorting her?

          - they need to resist.
          Quote: dark_65
          it’s deeply violet to me how the religion develops in your region, coming, I naturally will not offend the feelings of the people living there

          - what if the locals don't like your walk? (exaggerating) I mean that the locals should show generally accepted decency (and not swelling to "ask for a smoke" out of the blue), as if verified patience (and not endure someone's chaos for 10 thousand years, and then, with blind malice, spread rot everyone and everything). He broke the law, violated local etiquette - local men came and adequately "corrected" the situation. The next ones will know.
          Extremes must be avoided.
          1. matross
            matross 19 June 2013 23: 53
            0
            Mohammed, welcome! hi
            It seems to me that you take part only in the discussion of Islamic topics on the forum. Don't other problems bother you? Or do you have an opinion on other issues? I could be wrong, but it looks like you imagined yourself a preacher of the word of Allah? I want to warn all non-Muslims from your poison ... or honey ...
            1. DAGESTAN333
              DAGESTAN333 20 June 2013 09: 41
              0
              Hello matross!
              Quote: matRoss
              Don't other problems bother you? Or do you have an opinion on other issues?
              - Well, in general, I thought that I was participating in other topics .., but still I like to read the minds of much smarter guys than to write myself.
              Quote: matRoss
              but it looks like you imagined yourself a preacher of the word of Allah
              - Well, as it were, I’m extremely far from this rank ... to put it mildly .. The only goal that I pursue in such discussions is to show that there is Islam that is going to speak, and not fight.
              Quote: matRoss
              I want to warn all non-Muslims from your poison ... or honey ...
              - why? Do you want a dialogue? But the problem of coexistence will arise sooner or later.
          2. dark_65
            dark_65 20 June 2013 23: 42
            0
            Yes, he lived in the Caucasus, and in Asia, and Moldova, to understand the region, not to be too lazy to respect at least a little local customs, a little history, and most importantly ... remember, you are a guest, behave normally.
            In principle, as elsewhere in a foreign monastery, without its charter.
      3. O_RUS
        O_RUS 19 June 2013 22: 24
        +2
        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
        It's time to finally stop blindly insulting someone else's religion.


        Blindly? Stop ringing. It is written in the karan, I do not remember verbatim that your war is approved and the murders of infidels
        ... that’s what your co-religionists do in Russia -

        Here are the figures from the official data of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for January-August 2005: “34,6 thousand crimes were committed by foreign citizens and stateless persons on the territory of the Russian Federation, including 31,5 thousand crimes by citizens of the CIS member states, their specific weight was 91%. 8,5 thousand crimes were committed against foreign citizens and stateless persons.

        That is, in 2005, we, the citizens of Russia, committed crimes against guests from other states 4 times less than the foreigners themselves committed crimes against us. Exactly the same picture in 2006. In January-March, 14 thousand crimes were committed by foreign citizens and stateless persons, including 12,6 thousand crimes by citizens of the CIS member states, their share was 89,8%. 3328 crimes were committed against foreign citizens and stateless persons. Again 4 times less.

        Is this the reason for hatred?

        A few more numbers. In the same 2005, 121 rape cases were sent to Moscow courts. In 79 cases, men who came illegally from neighboring countries are accused.

        2002 Five illegal immigrants raped a schoolgirl (online publication "Morning ru")
        2004 Gastarbeiter raped a 10-year-old girl on the way from school ("MK")
        A native of the Caucasus during the year raped an 8-year-old girl ("MK")
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 19 June 2013 23: 26
          0
          Quote: O_RUS
          Blindly? Stop ringing. It is written in the karan, I do not remember verbatim that your war is approved and the murders of infidels

          But I heard the opposite, it is the duty of the faithful to protect Christians (they are so weak), though this does not apply to Catholics.
          1. O_RUS
            O_RUS 20 June 2013 07: 34
            -4
            A true Muslim cannot be a citizen of Russia, as long as Russia is not ruled by Muslims.
            Every faithful Muslim should strive to overthrow non-Muslim power and impose Muslim power.
            A faithful Muslim cannot swear allegiance to a secular state, as he thereby renounces Allah and the Muslim faith.
            Everyone who calls himself a Muslim and a citizen of Russia (has citizenship) is a Muddan who is hated and despised by all faithful Muslims.
            ***
            Halal (halal) is what is allowed. A person is free to earn his daily bread in a permitted, legal way. This method prescribed by the Holy Quran is called - Halal.
            Spiritual leaders of Muslims. n realizing the harm from products with GMOs through mosques, they organize the supply of Halal brand products. Halal is absolutely pure products grown and created without the use of genetic engineering and toxic chemicals.
            Russians know that a large number of outlets are under Muslims.
            and that's what the faithful Muslim does
            from morning till night he sells expired and poisoned products, and for the proceeds he goes to buy himself a halal food.
            1. DAGESTAN333
              DAGESTAN333 20 June 2013 09: 46
              -2
              Quote: O_RUS
              A true Muslim cannot be a citizen of Russia, as long as Russia is not ruled by Muslims. Every faithful Muslim should strive to overthrow non-Muslim power and impose Muslim power. A faithful Muslim cannot swear allegiance to a secular state, as he thereby renounces Allah and the Muslim faith. Everyone who calls himself a Muslim and a citizen of Russia (has citizenship) is a Muddan, whom all faithful Muslims hate and despise.

              - You want to say that I am not a true Muslim? But are you taking too much on yourself ..? AND?
              1. dark_65
                dark_65 20 June 2013 23: 45
                -2
                DAGESTAN333 ... there is hardly anyone who hears, regardless of faith. Unfortunately.
              2. O_RUS
                O_RUS 22 June 2013 03: 44
                +1
                Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                - You want to say that I am not a true Muslim? But are you taking too much on yourself ..? AND?


                laughing
                ... if I wanted to, I would say. And what I wrote is drawn from communication with very non-trivial people and Ineta.

                About -
                Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                You take it on yourself ..?

                I adhere to "Take it by yourself, so as not to fall when walking!"
                Halal - not only saw, but also kept ... it was in Russia, France, Germany.
          2. O_RUS
            O_RUS 1 July 2013 20: 32
            0
            Quote: Setrac
            But I heard the opposite, it is the duty of the faithful to protect Christians (they are so weak), though this does not apply to Catholics.


            that's what they write ... read
            At first glance, the Qur'an prohibits aggression: “Fight on the path of Allah with those who fight against you, but do not transgress [the limits of what is permitted]. Indeed, Allah does not love transgressors [borders]. Kill [unbelievers], wherever you meet them, expel them from the places from which they expelled you, because for them unbelief is worse than death at your fingertips. And do not fight them at the Forbidden Mosque until they fight with you in it. If they fight [at the Forbidden Mosque], then kill them. Such is the reward of the unfaithful! If they evade [from battle], then Allah is forgiving, merciful. ” As the saying goes, the law is strict, but fair: if they are fighting against you, then fight them too. However, a sequel follows immediately, explaining to the faithful how long to fight with unbelievers: “Fight with them until unbelief disappears and faith in Allah is established. If they renounce unbelief, then there should be no enmity, except for the wicked ”(Sura 2, 190-193). Muslims do not have the right to end the war in non-Muslims until Islam is established on earth as the dominant religion. A temporary truce - yes, but a permanent peace with the infidels is a betrayal of Allah.

            There is no coercion in faith: if you do not want to be a Muslim, die or become a slave. - and they write it
    2. Mairos
      Mairos 19 June 2013 11: 57
      0
      The first sentence is reasonable, and the second is pure rudeness. Do not put it that way.
    3. Yeraz
      Yeraz 19 June 2013 12: 58
      0
      Quote: Abakanets
      It is time to finally introduce visas with the countries of Central Asia and the Caucasus. It is from these countries that faith in the prophet pedophile comes.

      Hear the miracle of nature, where do you live ??? Weak in the face of a Muslim to say this?
      1. Mairos
        Mairos 19 June 2013 13: 33
        -1
        He is a miracle - he is just a narrow-minded person.
      2. matross
        matross 20 June 2013 00: 04
        +1
        What is the use of threatening the Internet? Everyone knows that the Chu-ki sykuns are cool only in a group with numerical superiority. And so - shit-mo and cheap stuff, every normal Russian man will confirm this! So if you want it in person, you’ll get it!
        1. DAGESTAN333
          DAGESTAN333 20 June 2013 09: 50
          -1
          matross, please, give a definition to the word "lumps". I'm so .. just for information.
          1. matross
            matross 20 June 2013 14: 06
            0
            Quote: DAGESTANETS333
            give a definition to the word "lumps"

            Yes, it brought me. It turned out roughly. I take this word back! hi
        2. Setrac
          Setrac 20 June 2013 12: 21
          0
          Quote: matRoss
          What is the use of threatening the Internet? Everyone knows that the Chu-ki sykuns are cool only in a group with numerical superiority. And so - shit-mo and cheap stuff, every normal Russian man will confirm this! So if you want it in person, you’ll get it!

          Russian youngsters are just as crowded as the jackal, and alone they are afraid to attack an adult, regardless of their nationality.
        3. Yeraz
          Yeraz 20 June 2013 12: 35
          +2
          Quote: matRoss
          What is the use of threatening the Internet? Everyone knows that the Chu-ki sykuns are cool only in a group with numerical superiority. And so - shit-mo and cheap stuff, every normal Russian man will confirm this! So if you want it in person, you’ll get it!

          Come on, I live in St. Petersburg if let's meet here and tell me something about our prophet in the face. When the topic concerns the things of the family and religion that are sacred to us, neither prison sentences nor death bother us. And insulting anyone’s feelings no one has the right to do anything. I hope you’re from Peter to hammer in the head the concept of respect.
          1. matross
            matross 20 June 2013 14: 17
            0
            Quote: Yeraz
            tell me something about our prophet

            Did I say something about your prophet? When? Where?
            Quote: Yeraz
            When the topic concerns the things of the family and religion that are sacred to us, neither a prison term nor death bothers us.

            It is worthy of respect. Us, by the way, too.
            Quote: Yeraz
            from Peter

            From Saint-Petersburg hi The cultural capital though!
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 20 June 2013 21: 58
              +1
              Quote: matRoss
              Did I say something about your prophet? When? Where?

              sorry, BUT you said something else
              Quote: matRoss
              What is the use of threatening the Internet? Everyone knows that the Chu-ki sykuns are cool only in a group with numerical superiority. And so - shit-mo and cheap stuff, every normal Russian man will confirm this! So if you want it in person, you’ll get it!

              come to St. Petersburg to see how much Caucasians are pissed off.
              Quote: matRoss

              It is worthy of respect. Us, by the way, too.

              and that one you are clearly lying, because if it were so, all of Russia would not howl from the lawlessness of the Caucasians.
              In most cases they suffer. And if someone thinks in front of the mosque about the prophet Isa what will happen to him and the church. The difference in reaction will be diametrically opposite. If the raites showed the level of spirituality among the population, they would run a meter in the mosque.
              Quote: matRoss
              From Peter hi The Cultural Capital Yet!

              Cultural, but without cultural ones like you we know how to put in place.
              1. matross
                matross 21 June 2013 13: 42
                0
                I am a Petersburger. Root. At the sovereign service. It’s not worth scaring me. For a long time already fought off, taking into account age and experience.
                Quote: Yeraz
                without cultural ones like you

                Invalid turnover in Russian.
                I have the honor! hi
  12. Vtel
    Vtel 19 June 2013 10: 08
    +4
    Saint Anastasios the Sinaite, one of the early fathers of the Church, said: "Orthodoxy is the true concept of God and creation," that is, Orthodoxy is the right faith, this is truth itself. And without faith in the true God, we cannot defeat the enemy in any guise, even with the latest weapons. "God is not in power, but in truth" - Alexander Nevsky.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 19 June 2013 16: 35
      +2
      Quote: Vtel
      Orthodoxy is a right faith, it is the truth itself. And without faith in the true God, we cannot defeat the enemy in any guise

      I do not like fanatics
  13. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 19 June 2013 10: 12
    +3
    The inability of immigrants to reckon with the local way of life, their unwillingness to cognitively and respectfully regard culture and language, and the burden on the social sphere at the expense of Russian taxpayers cause quite understandable rejection of the indigenous population. Unfortunately, the authorities instead of searching for specific solutions to the problem are limited to a ban on its public discussion.
    Yes, this is so - for publicly denouncing the negativity of a person coming from immigrants, they can be punished as for appeals to extremism, and still the problem does not go away, but the power is getting worse, it gets another enemy.
  14. Galinanp
    Galinanp 19 June 2013 10: 14
    +1
    Good news. I think it will be continued on the rise. The problem is overripe, and it must be radically solved. Most likely somewhere in the presidential administration there is a finished project on this issue. Similar conferences, symposia, etc. It will be finalized, and at the same time the preparation of public opinion.
  15. krez-74
    krez-74 19 June 2013 10: 50
    +6
    Islam in essence is intolerant! This means that, falling under the influence of the "interested" forces, it quickly turns into a threat.
    Now, religious people of all faiths have been given too much freedom, so they’re climbing ... Moreover, in a situation where education and its quality-accessibility fall, religion (Islam in particular) becomes the gas that fills the vacuum!
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 19 June 2013 14: 31
      0
      Quote: krez-74
      Now religious people of all faiths have been given too much freedom, so they climb ..

      To the point, Amur. Plus. Many troubles were brought to people by religions and all sorts of tractors and preachers. We are in the 21st century, it’s time to think about how we live, why and for what, and not stupidly perform religious rites and follow the calls of priests, mullahs, rabbis , believing that they are the truth almost in the last resort and comprehended the essence of the universe and know its secrets.
      1. DAGESTAN333
        DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 14: 42
        -1
        Nikolay, well, you, of course, are the essence of the universe, only you comprehended on the site ...
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 19 June 2013 17: 56
          0
          Quote: DAGESTANETS333
          Nikolay, well, you, of course, are the essence of the universe, only you comprehended on the site ..

          Alas, Magomed, alas ....
          I don’t know much yet, but I have time to understand and fill the knowledge gap.
          The main desire and desire for knowledge, and not constraint by dogma.
          1. DAGESTAN333
            DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 19: 20
            -1
            Quote: baltika-18
            The main desire and the pursuit of knowledge, and not stiffness by dogmas

            - Nikolay, I will plunge you into shock - we believers think the same way! There are differences only in development methods.
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 19 June 2013 22: 35
              +1
              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              Nikolay, I will plunge you into shock -

              I do not fall. smile
              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              we believers think the same way!

              I am happy for you sincerely.
              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              There are differences only in development methods.

              You probably had in mind the methods of cognition. Let's see who will succeed faster. wink
  16. DAGESTAN333
    DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 10: 51
    +1
    Good article.
    The creation of a domestic model of Muslim education is required, which would allow to seize the initiative from foreign centers in the field of both full-time and distance learning
    - I support - in Russia there should be an Islamic center that will act in the interests of Russia. And then somehow tired of the fact that Islamic centers act in the interests of the United States.
    In order to reduce migration flows from southern Russia and from neighboring Islamic countries, it is necessary to pay special attention to the acute problem of reducing the number of Russian population.
    - in my humble head, the understanding of the fact that the Rusich brothers prefer to live well, due to the lack of their own children, does not fit in any way.
    1. 755962
      755962 19 June 2013 11: 07
      13
      After all, there’s someone to take an example from .. They’re not embarrassed ...
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 19 June 2013 11: 10
        +1
        enough to drive this disu already. she didn’t say that
      2. DAGESTAN333
        DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 12: 11
        +5
        Eugene, in order not to ruin the state, it is necessary to achieve the equality of all citizens. I believe that we will be able to develop a legal framework that will truly take into account the interests of each citizen without oppressing, without infringing, without imposing ... and even if so, equally. The Orthodox and Islamic worlds do not need to blindly push off from each other.
        1. Mairos
          Mairos 19 June 2013 16: 54
          +3
          Yes, God, so that we can understand each other and not slide into confrontation !!
          Totally agree!!
      3. Setrac
        Setrac 19 June 2013 16: 44
        0
        Quote: 755962
        After all, there’s someone to take an example from .. They’re not embarrassed ...

        The approach is wrong, people can live according to any laws in any country, the main thing is that "their" law does not contradict the laws of the country of residence.
    2. Mairos
      Mairos 19 June 2013 12: 03
      +8
      As for the children - trouble !! You are right, many refuse the happiness of having children for the sake of pleasure and career. I think they were brainwashed - how else ?? But not everyone! I have three of them. )) And I BELIEVE that the situation with childbearing will improve both in Russians and other Slavs. I BELIEVE and that's it! Here we need to remember our traditions and all business.
      1. DAGESTAN333
        DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 12: 17
        +4
        Hi Mairos!
        Quote: Mairos
        I have three of them

        - respect! Living for children is real life!
    3. dark_65
      dark_65 19 June 2013 13: 56
      +1
      And here I completely agree, the people are becoming smaller.
  17. Igarr
    Igarr 19 June 2013 10: 55
    +4
    Damn .... this is the approach .. such a state, sovereign, imperial.
    as many generals as they gathered. And everyone is smart ... says.
    Only now - NOBODY ... NOT HORRY .. DOES NOT.
    But in Belarus - not a single rastgastfayter - I did not see. No one says (in vain) - but DONE!
    .
    How to invent any fueten ... maybe just at the Old Man .. ask - HOW? Share, Old Man, KNOW-HAY ..
    And all business.
    .
    ..
    I looked again .. it became sickening.
    What's this? - "..president of the Club of military leaders of the Russian Federation, .."
    KL UB ... Tipo, Lame Horse?
    And a lot, at PARTY, can you compose?
    ..
    The question of the survival of the Russian ethnic group - club event, huh?
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 19 June 2013 14: 53
      +1
      So from the Old Man traffic cops do not take bribes, like that. What to ask? And so it is clear.
  18. ocvbc
    ocvbc 19 June 2013 11: 52
    0
    The people in the network leaked the entire database about us all! Now you can watch any information about everyone who interests you! Use until you close! Here's the link - clck.ru/8hBBA
  19. teodorh
    teodorh 19 June 2013 12: 06
    +4
    I went to the site.
    I read the first article about arms purchases of Azerbaijan from Russia.
    Comments began about the similarity of Azerbaijanis with monkeys.
    The second article is about the Lithuanian armed forces.
    Comments about the worthlessness of the "Balts", questions are being asked in how many minutes we (Russians) will wipe them (Lithuanians, Latvians and Estonians) off the face of the earth.
    I am reading this article.
    Now Muslims. It turns out you need to completely destroy the Islamists.
    This is a view from the side. Do you think that you are slipping into fascism?
    1. Mairos
      Mairos 19 June 2013 12: 55
      +2
      Everyone has extremists and they are visible in the first place.
      This time!
      You confuse Islam with what is called Islamism in the article. In the context of the article, this is an aggressively extremist movement that preaches intolerance of infidels and calls for the creation of a world caliphate on the principle - become a Muslim or die.
      These are two!
      And yet, yes, the Islamists, with arms in their hands who decided to crush the world, must be totally destroyed! (Why are they better than the fascist plague?)
      This is three!
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 19 June 2013 13: 10
      -1
      Quote: teodorh
      I went to the site.
      I read the first article about arms purchases of Azerbaijan from Russia.
      Comments began about the similarity of Azerbaijanis with monkeys.
      The second article is about the Lithuanian armed forces.
      Comments about the worthlessness of the "Balts", questions are being asked in how many minutes we (Russians) will wipe them (Lithuanians, Latvians and Estonians) off the face of the earth.
      I am reading this article.
      Now Muslims. It turns out you need to completely destroy the Islamists.
      This is a view from the side. Do you think that you are slipping into fascism?

      This is keyboard fascism of people who are not too smart and do not understand anything. In life, they put up with the face of a Caucasian or Muslim, 90 percent will not have the guts to say something, but here you can stay awake as long as you like.

      And knowledgeable people will not write this because they understand what Islam and all the rest are. But it is beneficial for our authorities to aggravate the situation by importing migrants instead of modernizing the economy, because the Japanese with the same population and many times more production do not import millions of migrants, instead in order to solve the problems of the North Caucasus, it simply finances the elites, and the people ... well, he will tolerate the people, or he will go to the forest.
      1. teodorh
        teodorh 19 June 2013 13: 47
        +1
        Quote: Yeraz
        But it’s beneficial for our authorities to aggravate the situation by importing migrants instead of modernizing the economy, because the Japanese, with the same population and many times more production, don’t import millions of migrants, instead of solving the problems of the North Caucasus, they simply finance the elites,


        Agree

        Quote: Yeraz
        Well, he will tolerate the people, or he’ll go to the forest.


        You at least have an alternative. You can go to the forest. And we have a steppe)
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 19 June 2013 13: 56
          -2
          Quote: teodorh
          Quote: Yeraz
          But it’s beneficial for our authorities to aggravate the situation by importing migrants instead of modernizing the economy, because the Japanese, with the same population and many times more production, don’t import millions of migrants, instead of solving the problems of the North Caucasus, they simply finance the elites,


          Agree

          Quote: Yeraz
          Well, he will tolerate the people, or he’ll go to the forest.


          You at least have an alternative. You can go to the forest. And we have a steppe)

          It’s not envious of you))) Well, I'm in St. Petersburg, and there are so many forests around St. Petersburg.
          Azerbaijani youth is beginning to radicalize more and more, the source of the North Caucasians are a lot of friends who have converted to Sunni from Shiism, friends are inviting to Chechnya and Dagestan, but the guys are not bad, educated, athletic.
          I have already said that if in the first Karabakh out of 10 people only 2 could shout to Allah Akbar, now it’s more, I’m for the Sharia, because imitation of the West is wrong, but ... the further it goes, the radical intolerance of Islam will come, moderate and balanced traditional Islam for our region.
          1. Mairos
            Mairos 19 June 2013 16: 15
            +1
            How do you understand "for Sharia"? If everything is according to Sharia, then “Goodbye, your region” is from Russia! ”Or how do you imagine? Combining Russian legislation and Sharia law?
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 19 June 2013 17: 26
              -1
              Quote: Mairos
              How do you understand "for Sharia"? If everything is according to Sharia, then “Goodbye, your region” is from Russia! ”Or how do you imagine? Combining Russian legislation and Sharia law?

              Damn, I’ve been here constantly. I thought I already know everything. I’m an Azerbaijani from St. Petersburg)))
              I am for Sharia in Azerbaijan.
              I personally see the only way out of the situation when Muslims more and more go to Islam, and Russians into a Western way of life, to become Russian more Orthodox to return to religion, but then it’s about how to deal with atheists, this is my business, this is a secular state etc.but I have no other ideas ...
              But you can’t get away from Islam in Russia, if Europeans can say that the thing entered is impossible in Russia, Russia has always had an Islamic population, its own, indigenous.
      2. fzr1000
        fzr1000 19 June 2013 15: 14
        +7
        Dear Eraz, we have a secular state, for now. Do you like Sharia? I don’t, I don’t like any obscurantism-Judaic, Orthodox, Catholic and Islamic. In the courtyard is the 21st century, not the 9th. Regarding the vigil, do not vomit to say in person to a Muslim, and generally to anyone, if he behaves rude and inadequate. I never start to clarify relationships with elevated tones, but if the line is crossed, then it is easy and unconstrained if I appeal to those 2, well, maybe 3, depending on the specific situation, a person. I’m not Jackie Chan, but very often Muslims from the Caucasus (mostly young and greyhounds) and not only Muslims, but young and greyhounds, go in flocks and hit at once from all sides, the fallen ones do not hesitate to kick with their feet. In addition, some of them always have injuries and knives. I decided for myself that for the time being I will not take injuries, in principle. If you, unlike me, have the necessary skills to successfully counter such individuals, then I congratulate you and respect you for this. But you are unlikely to risk going to the same action movies from European-style football ultras (taken as an example) alone and starting to sort things out with them? Something like this.
        1. DAGESTAN333
          DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 15: 34
          -5
          Quote: fzr1000
          we have a secular state, for now. Do you like Sharia? I don’t, I don’t like any obscurantism - Judaic, Orthodox, Catholic and Islamic
          - Sergey, and what to do to that (theoretical) state, where half of the population wants to separate the church from the state, and the second half does not. Your thoughts on this subject are simply interesting.
          Quote: fzr1000
          It’s the 21st century, not the 9th
          - Especially therefore, we believers believe that a healthy society should adhere to religious norms.
          1. rereture
            rereture 19 June 2013 15: 43
            +3
            Quote: DAGESTANETS333
            especially therefore, we believers believe that a healthy society should adhere to religious norms.


            Must adhere to moral standards, not religious.
            1. DAGESTAN333
              DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 15: 52
              -2
              For us, this is one and the same.
              1. rereture
                rereture 19 June 2013 16: 05
                +3
                I will not argue, but I will say one thing: religious standards do not coincide with moral standards in everything, especially those written in religious texts, maybe for the ages 9-14 and are suitable but not for 21.

                PS
                My personal opinion is that religion sows enmity between people. It does not bring people knowledge, it washes the brain and depresses a person, and also reduces his ability to adequately perceive the world.

                Here's a video on a topic that proves miracles does not happen.

          2. fzr1000
            fzr1000 19 June 2013 16: 15
            +3
            My thought, dear, is simple and does not differ in originality. At home (namely at home or in the apartment) do what you want according to your religion. Outside the house, live according to secular law. And even if something happens around you that disgusts you from the point of view of your religion, the maximum possible is to express your point of view, opinion, and make a comment. I take the normal situation - the girl goes in a very short miniskirt, someone swears loudly. If the situation is more complicated and tense, you or your companion was insulted on a religious or other basis, think before you start acting - do you really need to start sorting out the relationship, maybe it seemed to you, maybe the person is simply ignorant and you can not pay attention to it, but if you are deliberately provoked, then to what extent are you ready to go on your own in your defense or is it better to call the police. This is how a normal modern person should behave, and not as in the Middle Ages it was customary among the nobles. Yes, and they had some kind of rules and code.

            Regarding religious norms. My opinion is that there are only one moral standards. Yes, it is boring and not interesting, and can be out of date. However, everyone knows from childhood what is good. And what's bad. It’s bad to kill people if they don’t do anything bad to you, but they are dressed differently, they say and pray to other gods. Etc. When self-deception begins, that the end justifies the means at the moment, and for the time being you can sacrifice something like morality or honor, then you can cover it up like anything-production, military, state or special necessity, religious or national characteristics. But all this will already be a lie to himself and others.

            Messy of course, but as I could.
            1. DAGESTAN333
              DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 18: 30
              0
              fzr1000 и MairosDo you know what our problem is? - that we are not going to consider the option of compromise coexistence. I’m wondering why this secular part of society categorically does not want equal symbiosis with the believing part of society? Well, do not believe in your health, do not accept the values ​​of monotheism ..! But why did you decide that the state should be only secular? Why Mairos believes that the entire state should live or according to secular laws, or disintegrate into zones of influence? And it is impossible to preserve the state, to EXACTLY CALCULATE where "freedom begins and ends" for the believing and non-believing part of society, to work out laws that are universal for all and live happily all together? Friends, maybe there is a variant of peaceful coexistence?
              1. rereture
                rereture 19 June 2013 18: 40
                0
                work out universal laws for all


                Universal laws have been worked out, this is the Constitution, which says: The Russian Federation is a secular state.
                These are the Criminal Code, the Code of Administrative Offenses, the Family Code, the Labor Code.
                1. DAGESTAN333
                  DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 19: 14
                  0
                  Universal, called laws that most fully meet the interests of society. Incidentally, the Constitution of the Russian Federation (offhand) at 80-90 percent coincides with Sharia law.
                  1. rereture
                    rereture 19 June 2013 19: 31
                    0
                    All laws are in the interests of secular society. And be so kind as to follow them.
                    1. DAGESTAN333
                      DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 20: 00
                      0
                      But the religious part of society, not all secular laws are suitable ... After all, we are also part of human society. Wouldn’t it be fair, given our opinion?
                      1. rereture
                        rereture 19 June 2013 20: 47
                        0
                        And not everyone likes religious laws and their protrusion.
                      2. DAGESTAN333
                        DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 21: 24
                        -2
                        And if not everyone likes secular laws? As I understand it, your ideas are over ... Maybe you have suggestions of a more constructive nature?
                      3. Setrac
                        Setrac 19 June 2013 22: 18
                        +3
                        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                        And if not everyone likes secular laws?

                        Those who do not like the laws of the state of residence have two ways, the first is to take the path of committing crimes, earn negative karma and go to jail, and the second is to change the country of residence.
          3. fzr1000
            fzr1000 19 June 2013 20: 43
            +2
            Man, I have no problem. I am a believer, Orthodox. But not a stubborn believer, moderate if you like. Therefore, I do not impose my views on anyone and do not stick out my faith.
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 19 June 2013 21: 07
              +2
              Quote: fzr1000
              Therefore, I do not impose my views on anyone and do not stick out my faith.

              Like he doesn’t like any manifestation of faith. You see, he says about protrusion, exactly how a believer should understand some moments, they impose their vision on us, and then blame us for this.
              Here my friend wears a big cross around his neck, and I am the sword of Imam Ali Zulfikar. For him, this is already a protrusion of religion.
          4. Mairos
            Mairos 20 June 2013 09: 53
            0
            Yes, I am only for! For universal laws, for mutual understanding, for mutual respect. But, unfortunately, now this state of affairs, unfortunately, is more reminiscent of the ideal gas of physicists - theoretically possible, but practically .. (((How to explain to Muslims from the Caucasus that a girl can wear a skirt above her knees, look at the faces of passing men and while not being a whore? How to explain to atheists that a girl in a hijab is not necessarily a dumb and slaughtered sheep?
            How to make Russian cease to regard ALL Caucasians as a stupid beast, and Caucasians cease to consider ALL Russians as ever drunk pigs ?! How??! Where to begin? So much mutual hostility among people has accumulated over the centuries.
            misunderstandings. (((I just don’t even know ... So far, all aggression is at least somehow restrained, albeit badly, by secular laws that are not based on religion. And if the laws of the country begin to build on the basis of religious ethics? What? And how then to be not orthodox to the believing or atheistic majority?
            1. DAGESTAN333
              DAGESTAN333 20 June 2013 11: 17
              +1
              Mairos, here everyone knows that Russian is a kind and sympathetic soul. But at least someone checked what kind of soul a Muslim Caucasian? And suddenly, we, too, want a simple mutual understanding ... It’s clear that casting sidelong glances at the streets at each other, there’s no understanding. We need at the public level, at the media level, to begin to condemn ethnic hostility, to condemn manifestations of intolerance. You just need to want to.

              One villager (leaves to work somewhere in central Russia) born in 1978, I remember once said - "we, Dagestanis, think that Russian boys are all squishy and n-ry, and Russian girls must be easily accessible .. ... how wrong we are about them ... (thoughtfully) "According to him, there is no difference between our concepts of right and wrong. In ordinary cities and villages of Russians, exactly the same normal (from our point of view) people live, like ours ... and they will give us a head start in terms of morality. He advised our guys, they say, they themselves spoil all relations. Well, of course, I was pleased to hear that.
              1. O_RUS
                O_RUS 29 June 2013 21: 21
                +1
                Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                But at least someone checked the soul of a Caucasian Muslim


                "Makhachkala vagrants" ... I know one personally. Dagestan wrestling champion .... (sorry, there are good reasons not to name either wrestling or when he became a champion)
                Do you have more examples?
            2. Setrac
              Setrac 20 June 2013 12: 32
              -1
              Dear Marios, your message is simply a celebration of cliches and dibilism.
              Quote: Mairos
              How to explain to Muslims from the Caucasus that a girl can wear a skirt above her knees, look at the faces of passing men and not be a whore?

              The prosecutor will explain to the incomprehensible.
              Quote: Mairos
              How to make Russian cease to consider ALL Caucasians a stupid beast, and Caucasians cease to consider ALL Russians forever drunk pigs ?!

              This is a media reception peddled by our Western "friends", a false reception, a sneaky one.
      3. Mairos
        Mairos 19 June 2013 16: 26
        +3
        "- Sergei, and what should that (theoretical) state do, where half of the population wants to separate the church from the state, and the thief half does not. Your thoughts on this matter are just interesting."
        -------------------------------
        I think that such a state will disintegrate. If in our case, the North Caucasus will fall off - as part of national autonomies. Provided that the question is raised point-blank - either we have Sharia or we are leaving. I would let the republics of the Caucasus go on an autonomous voyage, albeit with a SPECIFIC border and visas. Otherwise, "labor migration" will begin again due to objective reasons.

        Unfortunately, all the current states of the East, living according to Sharia to one degree or another, are torn apart by contradictions, revolutions, many are mired in poverty and corruption. People from them just run. Today's Europe, by the way, and what is going on there I do not like, we must seek a balance. Here we are here and try .. to create a secular society, but not immoral, so that people and God do not forget and do not slide into the savagery of fanaticism. Theocracy is also evil.
    3. Yeraz
      Yeraz 19 June 2013 17: 11
      +2
      Quote: fzr1000
      Dear Eraz, we have a secular state, for now.

      Dear, you didn’t understand me. I am an Azerbaijani citizen of the Russian Federation, a native of St. Petersburg, I am for Sharia in Azerbaijan. Each nation has its own customs and traditions.
      I don’t have a prescription in Russia, to be honest, because there are a lot of their non-visiting Islamic regions, how to deal with them ..
      Quote: fzr1000
      I’m not Jackie Chan, but very often Muslims from the Caucasus (mostly young and greyhounds) and not only Muslims, but young and greyhounds, go in flocks and hit at once from all sides, the fallen ones do not hesitate to kick with their feet. In addition, some of them always have injuries and knives. I decided for myself that for the time being I will not take injuries, in principle. If you, unlike me, have the necessary skills to successfully counter such individuals, then I congratulate you and respect you for this. But you are unlikely to risk going to the same action movies from European-style football ultras (taken as an example) alone and starting to sort things out with them? Something like this.

      I basically carry a knife with me always and no longer against Russians, but just against compatriots from the Caucasus because I know their customs.
      Everything rests in relation to death. I would personally come up, I will give you an example there was a fight between Azerbaijanis and Chechens and Ngush, in our first meeting the Czechs were more calm, in the second they came in a larger crowd and armed, ours ran, BUT I stayed with my brother, because in the city they knew how Azerbaijanis Erazov would have killed us and what? Well, let's go to heaven, and they will find these ghouls in the highest mountain village and we will be cut off, they will beat, well, the wounds will heal. But we were lucky, apparently the will of Allah, there our friends appeared among them, as it turned out, our were wrong, we then any one of these escaped not obshatsya and shook hands.

      you see, someone will not be ready to go out and stab a knife, there will be lawlessness. Organs are inactive, and the Russian people are sleeping and fall asleep even further under this Western influence on youth. And Muslims, the more Russians fall under Western influence, Muslims are under radicalism.
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 19 June 2013 17: 48
        0
        Interesting answer. Thank. Nevertheless, Caucasians (not you personally) are mostly bold in the majority. And the rest also applies. People are getting smaller.
      2. rereture
        rereture 19 June 2013 17: 53
        +1
        I basically always carry a knife with me


        Me too, all of a sudden I’ll go to the forest and get lost, or a feral dog will attack, or a man.
  • dc120mm
    dc120mm 19 June 2013 12: 36
    +5
    Interesting article, plus !!!
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  • agbykov
    agbykov 19 June 2013 12: 55
    0
    Related articles on finding solutions to these problems:
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    Everyone needs to start with himself. To become normal a person, that is, a Christian. As Saint Seraphim of Sarov said: "Acquire a peaceful spirit and thousands around you will be saved"
  • sys-1985
    sys-1985 19 June 2013 14: 32
    +2
    Quote: Mairos
    As for the children - trouble !! You are right, many refuse the happiness of having children for the sake of pleasure and career. I think they were brainwashed - how else ?? But not everyone! I have three of them. )) And I BELIEVE that the situation with childbearing will improve both in Russians and other Slavs. I BELIEVE and that's it! Here we need to remember our traditions and all business.

    And the most unfortunate thing is that they have been washed so high-quality that even attempts and desires are not in the heads of many ..
  • ddmm09
    ddmm09 19 June 2013 15: 12
    +4
    Quote: Yeraz
    This is keyboard fascism of people who are not too smart and do not understand anything. In life, they put up with the face of a Caucasian or Muslim, 90 percent will not have the guts to say something, but here you can stay awake as long as you like.

    I minded you for these words! .. I don’t have to equal everyone to the same comb, let’s say in my face more than once! .. I myself am from Kazakhstan, I know perfectly well the customs of Central Asia. Remember the story, please, how many times in society the opinion about the wretchedness of Russians has been escalated, so many times for this, in response to those who started to think so, flew into the snout. You simply don’t know and understand the mentality of Russians, there are many intellectuals among us, yes, they are physically weak, if someone managed to humiliate and insult them, then this does not need to be transferred to the whole people. Just at first the Russian will try to solve the problem peacefully, you, gentlemen, Muslim Caucasians, take this for weakness, well, but the result is always known - we read the history textbook and do not ask stupid questions anymore.
    When one of your peoples does for the world at least 10% of what Russia has done, then we will speak with great respect!
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 19 June 2013 17: 43
      -1
      Quote: ddmm09
      Quote: Yeraz
      This is keyboard fascism of people who are not too smart and do not understand anything. In life, they put up with the face of a Caucasian or Muslim, 90 percent will not have the guts to say something, but here you can stay awake as long as you like.

      I minded you for these words! .. I don’t have to equal everyone to the same comb, let’s say in my face more than once! .. I myself am from Kazakhstan, I know perfectly well the customs of Central Asia. Remember the story, please, how many times in society the opinion about the wretchedness of Russians has been escalated, so many times for this, in response to those who started to think so, flew into the snout. You simply don’t know and understand the mentality of Russians, there are many intellectuals among us, yes, they are physically weak, if someone managed to humiliate and insult them, then this does not need to be transferred to the whole people. Just at first the Russian will try to solve the problem peacefully, you, gentlemen, Muslim Caucasians, take this for weakness, well, but the result is always known - we read the history textbook and do not ask stupid questions anymore.
      When one of your peoples does for the world at least 10% of what Russia has done, then we will speak with great respect!

      In vain, they minusanuli because they didn’t read it carefully. I wrote 90 percent, just among 10, and I have a Russian friend who approached 5 and expressed dissatisfaction.
      Both sides say about wretchedness, the Russians say the monkeys, whom we took from the tree and in response to b-di and drunks. This is blah blah from both sides. It is just that the young people express themselves, they don’t help each other, I don’t know how they used to, but now it’s not intellects, and jerks who only hang out in clubs and behind the camp play games, and there are more and more of them.
      And degradation is increasing, Western influence is increasing, and among Muslims it is vice versa.
      1. rereture
        rereture 19 June 2013 18: 04
        -1
        It’s just that Russian youth expresses themselves, they don’t help each other, I don’t know how they used to, but now it’s not the intellects, but the jerks who only hang out in clubs and play games for the camp. and for Muslims, on the contrary


        Do not row all under one comb.
        For example, in Islam marriages are permitted with children, for example, with 9-12 year old girls, who must already perform marital duties. And this, by the way, is pedophilia.
        So much for Islam.
        In Pakistan, parents splashed acid in their daughter's face for talking with a boy.
        http://www.baltinfo.ru/2012/11/02/V-Pakistane-roditeli-plesnuli-kislotoi-v-litco

        -docheri-za-razgovor-s-malchikom-314641
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 19 June 2013 18: 37
          0
          Quote: rereture
          It’s just that Russian youth expresses themselves, they don’t help each other, I don’t know how they used to, but now it’s not the intellects, but the jerks who only hang out in clubs and play games for the camp. and for Muslims, on the contrary


          Do not row all under one comb.
          For example, in Islam marriages are permitted with children, for example, with 9-12 year old girls, who must already perform marital duties. And this, by the way, is pedophilia.
          So much for Islam.
          In Pakistan, parents splashed acid in their daughter's face for talking with a boy.
          http://www.baltinfo.ru/2012/11/02/V-Pakistane-roditeli-plesnuli-kislotoi-v-litco


          -docheri-za-razgovor-s-malchikom-314641

          Yes, I’m not rowing everyone, but the bulk of the current ones.
          Allowed if she had come .. well, I think you understood. All my grandmothers were married at 14 or 15 years old, and ??? 10 children each, and if high in the mountains there were norms, medicine would have been even more.
          You see, I want to say that let every people live according to their traditions and customs and do not poke or prove that someone has the right or not.
          It’s difficult for Russia because there are Russian, Russian, and many other indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation and I don’t know where to find a middle ground; personally, at the moment, the laws of the Russian Federation allow me to live completely according to my customs and traditions. At the moment when I understand that this is impossible and the western way of life is persistently imposed on me, I’ll leave for the benefit I have at least 2 choices where I won’t be lost. Turkey and Azerbaijan, but what about the republics of the Russian Federation that do not want to ???
          1. rereture
            rereture 19 June 2013 18: 41
            +1
            Then why do you blame pedophilia?
            So you have a tradition but not in Norway?

            Let's cover your immorality with a quran.
            As I wrote, religion blurs the line between good and evil.
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 19 June 2013 20: 53
              +1
              Quote: rereture
              Then why do you blame pedophilia?

              I did not understand ... more specifically pliz.

              Quote: rereture
              So you have a tradition but not in Norway?

              Yes, if in Norway it is customary for peasants to marry or something else let them do their homeland, their people want something for me. But I don’t think that the last century the perversions that are developing there is a European tradition.
              Quote: rereture
              Let's cover your immorality with a quran.

              Well, then, people like you are moral and do not allow the world to slide into immorality wink
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 19 June 2013 18: 39
        +1
        Quote: Yeraz
        It’s just that Russian youth expresses themselves, they don’t help each other, I don’t know how before, but now it’s not the intellects, but the jerks who only hang out in clubs and play games at the campsite, and there are more and more of them.
        And degradation is increasing, Western influence is increasing, and among Muslims it is vice versa.

        Probably we have different youth before our eyes.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 19 June 2013 20: 50
          +1
          Quote: Setrac
          Probably we have different youth before our eyes.

          Well maybe))
      3. Mairos
        Mairos 20 June 2013 10: 09
        0
        Caucasian youth in clubs is not less, but in percentage terms it can be more.
        As for the fact that the Russians need to learn to help each other .. probably have to, the process is already underway. Just what kind of country will we build, in which people will stand for each other on a national basis? The Russians cannot come to their senses for so long because for centuries they lived in a country where everything was decided according to the law, and not as they are used to in the Caucasus - "Whoever gets together better is right." This is the law of the pack, the law of primitive society. That's it. Unfortunately, now the law and the state are weak and the laws of the pack have again climbed, like foam, upward. Hopefully not forever.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 20 June 2013 12: 40
          0
          Quote: Mairos
          Caucasian youth in clubs is not less, but in percentage terms it can be more.

          I wonder who counted?
          Quote: Mairos
          As for the fact that the Russians need to learn mutual assistance .. apparently it will have to, the process is already underway.

          Die yourself and help out a friend - a Russian proverb. Help is when you yourself are ready to fight, and your comrades will help you, fight TOGETHER Nobody will be you.
  • rereture
    rereture 19 June 2013 15: 23
    +2
    one must fight against religion in general, even against Islam, even against Christianity, even against Judaism.

    Religion washes the brains of people, replacing true values ​​with false ones, eroding, or even removing the line between good or evil, or elevating it to absolute.
    Take Christianity, the Bible. How many did God kill with his angels? We consider who was touched by 'kara bodya':
    1. Egypt. Babies.
    2. The army of the Egyptians.
    3. Sodom and Gomor.
    4. The flood.
    Consider another question, King Herod kills babies, his Bible condemns it. But at the same time, he worships the murderer who killed children in Egypt,
    not even born yet.
    consider the prophets. for example, the prophet Elijah. The children laughed at his bald head, he cursed them. A bear came running from the forest and tore them apart - 42 children.
    Complacency in front of bones and paintings. Belief in miracles and fairy tales, and this is the 21st century.
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 16: 02
      0
      Quote: rereture
      King Herod kills babies, his Bible condemns it. But at the same time he worships the murderer who killed children in Egypt
      - Do you really think that this can be written on the forum ..?
      1. rereture
        rereture 19 June 2013 16: 07
        0
        I can fix it, but let's call a spade a spade.

        But at the same time worships God, who in Egypt killed children.
        1. DAGESTAN333
          DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 18: 01
          -1
          Sergey, someone seriously misinformed you ... Read recognized, and most importantly, various sources.
          1. rereture
            rereture 19 June 2013 18: 14
            0
            I read, this is the Bible, the Old Testament.
            1. rereture
              rereture 19 June 2013 18: 16
              0
              Then why do you reject Thor, Veles, Svarog, Mara, Zeus, Ayde and other gods?
              ,
              1. DAGESTAN333
                DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 19: 09
                -1
                Quote: rereture
                I read, this is the Bible, the Old Testament.
                - maybe you misunderstood ..? Could you give a link to the text? I just won’t find it myself ...

                Quote: rereture
                Then why do you reject Thor, Veles, Svarog, Mara, Zeus, Ayde and other gods?
                - I'm sorry that I do not know some of these entities, but I am confident that God is one. Perhaps all these names were attributed to the One Supreme. I am sure that there are no gods, there is God and he is one. Why you are alone? Because all things could not appear out of nowhere. Everything created by someone. It must be the beginning of the beginning. Believers also attribute absolute properties to this factor.
                1. rereture
                  rereture 19 June 2013 19: 24
                  0
                  The beginning of time? The beginning of our universe is a big bang. this theory is difficult to verify, but not refutable.

                  This is where it is written Exodus 11: 7, Exodus 12:12, Exodus 12: 29-30, Exodus 13: 2, 12, 15, Exodus 14: 4-28.
                  1. DAGESTAN333
                    DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 19: 53
                    -1
                    Hmm ... sorry, who or what initiated the Big Bang ..? And what - who initiated what initiated it? Do you happen to know ..? Maybe something incredible happened - the effect immediately "materialized" for no reason ..?
                    1. rereture
                      rereture 19 June 2013 20: 51
                      -1
                      Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                      Maybe something incredible happened - the effect immediately "materialized" for no reason ..?


                      Maybe yes, maybe no. Universes are born and die, only to show it you need to go beyond our universe, but this is impossible, only theoretically.
  • Savva30
    Savva30 19 June 2013 16: 40
    0
    Everything will be fine!!! What are the Kalashnikov now?
    1. rereture
      rereture 19 June 2013 16: 48
      0
      Buy a saigu, from 21k it goes.
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 16: 49
    +3
    radical Islam terrorism is spread throughout Russia with indifference or tacit agreement, and even with the support of traditional Islam, as it seems to be bad but its own
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 17: 53
      -1
      ... the man said, apparently, to whom it is completely not interesting what exactly we opposed to non-traditional Islam ... But something needs to be blotted out ...
      1. soldier's grandson
        soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 18: 43
        0
        they didn’t oppose anything, but I said what I personally saw and heard
        1. DAGESTAN333
          DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 19: 46
          0
          And you don’t know anything at all! And you haven’t seen anything!



          (Do you think that in this style a discussion is possible? Or maybe, in fact, you are not interested in knowing what does not fit into your beliefs?)

          I will say for Dagestan - here, Islamist scholars of the traditional persuasion, and simply activists, since 1999 have carried out a colossal amount of preaching work. During this time, ours did not allow the spread of radicalism in the vast majority of areas. This is despite the fact that there were a lot of "scientists", ours, Dagestan, who were trained in Syria, Saudi Arabia, and in other "cool" places. After the collapse of the Union, there was an incredible influx of various Arab "scientists" who, for some reason, were mainly interested in the topic of jihad ... No, in the Arab countries there are a lot of internationally recognized traditional scientists, but for some reason only guys with ideas called us jihad ... So try it, win back the minds of young people ...
          1. soldier's grandson
            soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 23: 36
            +1
            in the Volga region in the Tatar mosque there was a radical Islam preaching there to Jordanian children from Hezbola. Wahhabi literature was discovered stupidly selling grenades and weapons. Question: With whose approval did he do this and lived for a long time without any resistance?
            1. DAGESTAN333
              DAGESTAN333 20 June 2013 12: 21
              0
              Quote: Soldier's grandson
              with whose approval did he do this and lived for a long time without any resistance?
              - I'm sorry, but we are also, like, not policemen ... Our only weapon is sermons. We do everything we can.
          2. O_RUS
            O_RUS 14 August 2013 18: 12
            0
            Lying!!!

            "I will say for Dagestan - here, Islamic scholars ..." (Dagestani)

            ... how strong the Wahhabi group was in Makhachkala in 99g it remained ...
  • Savva30
    Savva30 19 June 2013 16: 56
    +5
    It’s hard for me to imagine what kind of “personal freedom” there may be for an unemployed person who goes hungry and does not find the use of his labor. True freedom exists only where exploitation is destroyed, where there is no oppression of some people by others, where there is no unemployment and poverty, where a person does not tremble that tomorrow he may lose his job, housing, bread. Only in such a society is real, not paper, personal and any other freedom possible.
    (Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin)
  • Savva30
    Savva30 19 June 2013 17: 00
    0
    With different principles, you cannot find a common language.
    (Confucius)
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 19 June 2013 18: 41
      -1
      Confucius is wrong, and just saved before this problem. Two smart people will never oppose their principles to each other - they will find parallel paths.
  • Savva30
    Savva30 19 June 2013 17: 03
    +5
    Once upon a time, an old man revealed to his grandson one vital truth: - In each person there is a struggle, very similar to the struggle of two wolves.
    One wolf represents evil: envy, jealousy, regret, selfishness, ambition, falsehood. Another wolf represents good: peace, love, hope, truth, kindness and loyalty. The grandson, touched to the depths of his soul by the words of his grandfather, thought, and then asked:
    “And which wolf wins in the end?” The old man smiled and answered:
    “The wolf you feed always wins.”
  • Svyatoslav72
    Svyatoslav72 19 June 2013 19: 09
    +1
    To put it simply: - Islam is a totalitarian sect, a good base for the capture and assimilation of someone else's "living space". Islam is not a Faith, it is a religion from the very beginning, a system of control and subordination. Islam is an aggressive life force that fights for world domination. All!
    For those who believe that this is not so, let the basic basis of Islam "google" and understand that this is a borrowed version of Christianity and Judaism in its primitive retold form, including basic erroneous concepts.
  • rereture
    rereture 19 June 2013 19: 11
    +1
    Quote: Yeraz
    the laws of the Russian Federation allows you to live completely according to your customs and traditions


    And they must live only by the laws.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 19 June 2013 21: 01
      -2
      Quote: rereture
      And they must live only by the laws.

      Come on? And why should I? My traditions and customs do not bother anyone and the law of the Russian Federation does not contradict. And where they contradict (well, kill a lamb in front of the house in Kurban Bayram for example, then we go out of town and cut it without prying eyes)
      You’re sitting here getting smart. But you are imposing your vision on me, how to behave, etc. But, as the example of Europe shows, the result of such a way of thinking, the demographic crisis and same-sex marriages. I wish good luck in your beliefs, just don’t abandon them.
  • Field
    Field 20 June 2013 08: 53
    +1
    If one doesn’t regret power, it will change the situation, but it will not change it, as much as creating visibility at the maximum (interests of the people and interests of the ruling elites are different interests)
    Everything will end as always in the history of Russia: "And the Russian revolt broke out, cruel and merciless"
    Perhaps locally, but the "sweetheart" is enough for sure.
    And also read the news bulletins from St. Petersburg to Kamchatka literature of the Salafi, Wahhabite, or, if you will, of the Islamist sense is being confiscated. and the preachers are not Jordanians, but as a rule Tatars, Uzbeks, or people from the north. Caucasus, that is, either citizens of the Russian Federation or immigrants from the "Pakistani-Afghan region"

    What to do? Here are some thoughts
    Collect a lot of signatures for the adoption of the necessary law.
    To unite within the framework of an existing political force or establish a new one and thereby force the authorities to reckon with the opinion of the people
    Try to expel by violent methods (it is very fraught with a period for Russians as a rule)
    do not do a damn thing, but still buy weapons in case a crowd of "zombies" breaks into your house
  • Field
    Field 20 June 2013 12: 29
    +2
    The classics of Russian political thought Lenin and Stalin were right - religion is opium for the masses, and the less educated the masses, the greater the influence of "opiates"

    But religion cannot be forbidden, it must be controlled especially by Islam, as well as all sorts of sects.
    But what about the Hajj, the faithful?
    Or maybe there’s a service in Russian?
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 20 June 2013 15: 42
      +1
      this is a reasonable method for resolving religious issues