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Edward Snowden: you can't stop the truth

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17 Jun Glenn Greenwald, correspondent for the British newspaper The Guardian, conducted an exclusive online interview with Edward Snowden, a famous public informant accuser, against whom he launched a criminal investigation of the NSA. Visitors to the Guardian could ask him questions in real time. Before the interview began, Comrade Greenwald warned possible participants in the broadcast that Snowden was contacting via a secure connection, and there could be gaps and interference. Snowden's answers appeared one after another before the readers of the newspaper in the form of text blocks in a live tape. Then the interview was posted on the site completely.




The first question was asked by Greenwald himself. He asked why the fugitive chose Hong Kong.

The US government, the informant said in response, immediately and predictably eliminated any possibility of a fair trial at home - just as it did with other informants. In the US, Snowden is openly declared guilty of high treason and declare that disclosing secrets is not only a criminal offense, but also an unforgivable anti-constitutional act. This is unfair, says the informant. Why? But why: he did not declassify any military operations legally carried out by the United States. He reported on the hacking of NSA civilian infrastructure (universities, hospitals, private business). All this is dangerous, according to the informant. The public should know that the government is doing on its own behalf what the “consent of the governed” does not make sense.

Question number two came from Ian McAskill, a correspondent for the same Guardian: “Why didn't you just fly directly to Iceland, if you chose this country for asylum?”

To this was received the answer as follows. For NSA employees, leaving the US is risky. Agency staff must declare their overseas travel for 30 days, and then follow them. There was a high probability that he would be banned from this route. So he had to go to the country where he could fly without prior booking - to a country with a cultural and legal base where he could work without being immediately detained. Hong Kong provided him with these conditions.

One of the users asked if he had lied about his annual salary in 200 of thousands of dollars: after all, Booz reported 122000 $?

On this, Snowden clarified that the 200 thousand was the peak paycheck in his career; he did not claim that he had been paid so much lately by Booz. In addition, Glenn Greenwald and his colleagues from the Guardian for several days of conversations did not record all the conversations.

To the question of the next user about why Snowden waited for Obama to take the presidency, why he did not declassify the documents earlier, the informant replied.

He believed that Obama’s election promises and his very election give reason to believe in solving the existing problems. Not one Snowden, many Americans felt the same way. Alas, shortly after coming to power, Obama closed his eyes to investigating systematic violations of the law. Moreover, he deepened and expanded several programs allowing the authorities to commit abuses. Human rights violations, as is well seen in Guantanamo Prison, where people are still sitting without charge, are of little concern to him.

It is known that Google, Facebook and others refused to admit participation in PRISM. The Guardian reader asked if Snowden thought they were lying? Or maybe they do not know anything?

In response, Comrade Snowden explained that their failures had evolved several times, and therefore it is becoming increasingly clear that they are misleading us. They are obliged by law to keep secret and keep quiet about the named program, but this does not correspond to their ethical obligations.

“If, for example,“ Facebook ”,“ Google ”,“ Microsoft ”and“ Apple ”would refuse to cooperate with the intelligence community, then what do you think the government would do? Would you shut them down? ”


Responding to a question about whether the Chinese government is not planning anything about it and whether it is waiting for information from it, Snowden noted that the rumors in the American media about Red China are a reaction to everything that is somehow connected with Hong Kong or the PRC, aimed at distracting society from the issue of the crimes of the US government.

“Ask yourself: if I were a Chinese spy, why didn’t I fly directly to Beijing? ..”


Responding to one of the questions about the dangers of terrorism, Snowden noted that American officials each time take this trump card from its sleeve when a public debate can limit their power. US officials are directly misleading the public or are lying about the need for wiretapping programs.

In addition, it is important to keep in mind that Snowden is called a traitor by people such as former Vice President Dick Cheney, a man who, according to an informant, gave the government a scheme of unwarranted phone tapping as a kind of warm-up on the way to the conflict in which more than 4400 died and nearly 32000 injured Americans, and the fact that more 100000 Iraqis are dead. The word "traitor" in the mouth of Dick Cheney is the highest award an American can receive. The more anxiety we hear in the voices of people like him, Snowden said, like Feinstein or King, the better we all become.

Speaking of Manning, Drake and other informants, Snowden said that these are examples of what answers society can give to the state. According to him, citizens who have a conscience will not ignore the wrong actions of the government simply because they will be destroyed for this: conscience will not allow. If the Obama administration responds even more harshly against Snowden himself than against others, she must be sure that she herself will soon face a severe public outcry.

Obama has the opportunity to return to sanity, to constitutional politics, to the rule of law.

"He still has time to enter history as president, who looked into the abyss, but stepped back and did not jump. ”


Snowden advises him to demand the creation of an ad hoc committee to review these interception programs, to give up the dangerous privileges of state secrets. Obama could start the tradition that the next presidents would take from him, he could show his respect for the law by setting up an investigation to consider the policy he was leading in his office in order to detect any wrongdoing.

"Not a drop can be trusted in the government if our top officials are freed from control: they must set an example of transparency."


Among other statements by Snowden, this one stands out, about the USA:

"This country is worth dying for."


Separately, the informant noted that James Klapper, director of US National Intelligence, openly lies to the public without consequences. And this, according to Snowden, testifies to the perversion of democracy.

Further, the informant once again rejected the "information" about his contacts with the Chinese government, and said that he worked only with journalists.

In conclusion of the online interview, he expressed regret that the media are much more interested in what he, Snowden, did at the age of seventeen, or what his girlfriend looks like. The largest surveillance program in human history, alas, is of less interest to the press ...

Then Snowden thanked everyone for their support.

In another room The Guardian An article appeared by Helen Davidson - that Edward Snowden's father asks him to stop declassifying. Lonnie Snowden asked his son to return home - even if he faces jail time.

Philip Sherwell and Malcolm Moore write more about this topic. "Daily Telegraph".

Lon Snowden is a retired US Coast Guard officer. He told Fox News, addressing his son:

"I hope, I pray, and I ask you not to publish any secrets that can lead to treason."


The father wants his son back home. He believes that the American justice system applies everything absolutely correctly. He would even prefer his son to be imprisoned in the United States, rather than a free man in some country that does not have that freedom that is protected.

He further criticized the government’s program for total surveillance, but immediately said that he was “saddened" by his son’s decision to disclose secret documents.

Mr Snowden Sr. fears that some people influenced his son to “cross this line and commit treason ...”

Journalists are reminded that former Vice President Dick Cheney suggested that Edward Snowden is a Chinese spy, arguing that he chose Hong Kong as a refuge. In response, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of China said it was “complete nonsense.”

Returning to the online interview in The Guardian, in conclusion of the article we will give another remark of Edward Snowden - the phrases that he said in response to a question from the Greenwald correspondent:

“All I can say right now is that the US government cannot hide the truth by putting me in jail or killing me.” Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped. ”


Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
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  1. pensioner
    pensioner 19 June 2013 09: 24
    +6
    Oleg thanks! Wonderful stuff. It does not seem like self-interest and no desire for glory prompted these people to such actions. Is conscience?
    1. Mart
      19 June 2013 09: 41
      +4
      Quote: retired
      Oleg thanks! Wonderful stuff. It does not seem like self-interest and no desire for glory prompted these people to such actions. Is conscience?

      Please, Yuri! Obviously not self-interest. And vanity is unlikely. He thought about it for many years. And now he himself admits that nothing good awaits him. Now he "unofficially" asked for asylum in Iceland. Americans usually do not go there for fame ... And whether he will get there is a big question. And in the States, he faces a life sentence, no less. For two years they will be tortured in a cell, then they will arrange a process - and they will jail forever. The wave of recent times suggests that others will follow him. You can't stop the truth, he's right.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 19 June 2013 10: 19
        +1
        Quote: Mart
        "unofficially" asked for asylum in Iceland. Americans usually don't go there for fame ...


        Yeah .. Fischer can be remembered for example ... He was a worthy man! Interesting events unfold, however ... Something is not heard about such "informants" from the "old woman". Except Vicki, perhaps, there was no one else ... And they do business maybe less, but not much ...
      2. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 19 June 2013 13: 03
        +1
        Quote: Mart
        ... And in the States he will face a life sentence, no less. Two years of torture in a cell, then they arrange a process - and put him in prison forever.


        I think everything will be easier. Amer will wait until the news leaves the first pages and quietly arrange a guy overdose or accident with a fatal outcome. And how soon? Depends on that kogma he annoyed more.
    2. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 19 June 2013 10: 19
      +3
      The USA is a country of lies, cynicism, greed ... where worship of money is elevated to the rank of virtues, there is no justice and equality ...
    3. 755962
      755962 19 June 2013 10: 47
      +4
      He would even have preferred his son to be imprisoned in the United States, rather than a free man in some country that does not have that freedom that is protected.

      Yeah ... on the example of the Pope, one can see the national brainwashing in the United States for the most "don't want" ...
    4. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 19 June 2013 13: 00
      +1
      Quote: retired
      Oleg thanks! Wonderful stuff. It does not seem like self-interest and no desire for glory prompted these people to such actions. Is conscience?


      Very much like Vereshchagin from "The White Sun of the Desert" ... all over the court for the state, the guy is offended.
    5. Che
      Che 20 June 2013 18: 30
      0
      A man cooked in this crappy kitchen, and unlike our liberals, he understood everything perfectly. The West has long lost the right to be called a developed democracy.
  2. fzr1000
    fzr1000 19 June 2013 09: 27
    +2
    Snowden needs to apply to China or Russia for permanent residence. Bad things could end for him.
  3. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 19 June 2013 09: 28
    +3
    this person will be a real hunt for the world's special services - after all, such an object that possesses real information is interesting to specialists in the field of information collection.
  4. omsbon
    omsbon 19 June 2013 09: 40
    +6
    I like this honest guy! I wish him good luck! Snowden can only be saved in Russia or China!
  5. Dejavu
    Dejavu 19 June 2013 09: 59
    +4
    He believes that the American justice system applies everything absolutely correctly.


    The murderer of Dima Yakovlev was acquitted ...
    The most humane court in the world

    “All I can say right now is that the US government cannot hide the truth by putting me in jail or killing me.” Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped. ”


    God help you!
  6. krez-74
    krez-74 19 June 2013 10: 08
    +3
    And he's done! If there weren’t such people, we would have lived in a matrix for a long time.
  7. sergo0000
    sergo0000 19 June 2013 10: 39
    +2
    http://www.avaaz.org/ru/index.php
    SUPPORT EDWARD SNOWDEN !!!
    1. Joker
      Joker 19 June 2013 13: 01
      0
      You look at the site below first, and then let's link to it. laughing
      1. sergo0000
        sergo0000 19 June 2013 16: 36
        0
        And what’s funny Oleg? Looked like nothing strange. winked
        http://politiko.ua/
        Here is another reference.
        They are full throughout the internet.
  8. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 19 June 2013 10: 41
    0
    This seems to be either an ideological fighter against totalitarianism, or, because only an idealist or quits a prestigious high-paying job, runs away from his native country and talks to the whole world about her secret deeds. For me, he really said nothing new, but for Euro-hamsters this is probably like thunder in broad daylight. For Europe, America is a knight on a white horse that saved them from Nazism, communism and continued to protect them from the evil Russians. And then all the gilding flew away, and it turned out that the rider was black and the horse was pale.
  9. cartridge
    cartridge 19 June 2013 10: 50
    +2
    Edward Snowden: you can't stop the truth



    The song of truth is sung by youth, youth, youth.
    You won’t strangle this song, don’t kill, don’t kill, don’t kill! (with)
  10. kostofan
    kostofan 19 June 2013 10: 52
    0
    that case when you understand that the less you know, the more sound you sleep.
  11. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 19 June 2013 11: 18
    +2
    ShturmKGB
    The USA is a country of lies, cynicism, greed ... where worship of money is elevated to the rank of virtues, there is no justice and equality ...

    But still they come across sane people. True, this is an exception to the rule because he is from the NSA and there are no fools and he knows how to think, unlike the rest of the herd. request
  12. ocvbc
    ocvbc 19 June 2013 11: 52
    0
    The people in the network leaked the entire database about us all! Now you can watch any information about everyone who interests you! Use until you close! Here's the link - clck.ru/8hBBA
  13. Mergenchi
    Mergenchi 19 June 2013 11: 52
    0
    However, this man is Snowden! Good luck learning Chinese.
  14. Dart weyder
    Dart weyder 19 June 2013 11: 54
    +1
    The triumph of democracy and freedom of speech, as well as the observance of Constitutional Law! Everything - ended, and for a long time - this is a myth, they never had this - only in words! Let them get used to it.
  15. the47th
    the47th 19 June 2013 17: 01
    0
    Quote: dejavu
    He believes that the American justice system applies everything absolutely correctly.

    There is a good film about the American judicial system: it's called Law Abiding Citizen.
  16. J. Tapia
    J. Tapia 19 June 2013 17: 13
    0
    Man! What can I say, not everyone would have decided on this!
  17. Forward
    Forward 19 June 2013 18: 45
    0
    I think how much it takes to be naive and short-sighted, assuming that on the Internet something can remain confidential. Everything is carefully monitored, and I dare to assure not only the American NSA
  18. Naval
    Naval 19 June 2013 19: 39
    0
    Freedom to Edward Snowden !!!
    Hands off Assandzhu !!!
    Shame on American Imperialism!
    This is for the NSA, let them read, let them know what we think about them .. laughing
  19. Maxim Gorodetskov
    Maxim Gorodetskov 20 June 2013 04: 03
    0
    Obama has the opportunity to return to sanity, to constitutional politics, to the rule of law.

    “He still has time to go down in history as a president who looked into the abyss, but stepped back rather than jumping.” Here naive Americans still believe that their president is deciding something laughing
  20. Wolland
    Wolland 20 June 2013 11: 45
    0
    At one time, I very much thought about how weird, George W. Bush,



    that the president is not a clown, but not just a capital letter ....
  21. habalog
    habalog 20 June 2013 19: 05
    0
    5 cents.

    Not so simple with this patriot. If you remove the tinsel of the slogan type - an interesting picture will open. Obama needs a guy like air. What for? Power laughing
    To begin to crush the ruling clans from power, to cease to fulfill the role of the ceremonial president.
    How to push back? Yes, the guy spoke about the same committee. Committee with the ability to remove from office, regardless of contact. From any position. fellow
    And they will begin to cove, so Obama will have a trump card - they say, people do not like it, and politicians will support some countries.