The Russian "Alligator" was not allowed to speak at "Le Bourget" for several hours

18 2013 June

At the air show Le Bourget 2013, a Russian Ka-52 Alligator helicopter flew a demo flight. It is noteworthy that the departure of this model was announced a few hours earlier, and the car was already at the start when the dispatchers ordered to return to the "parking" and stop the engine. Then, instead of the Russian helicopter, the German and French "Tigers" produced by Eurocopter made a speech

Subsequently, this strange maneuver of the organizers was unofficially explained by the fact that the French Prime Minister was present in the stands, the safety of which was the reason for the ban on departure for the Russians, Interfax reports. Whatever it was, the decision of the organizers of the event aroused bewilderment of the members of the Russian delegation, who considered that this way the Tigers were deliberately given advantages.

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experienced 18 June 2013 11: 23 New
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On Sunday, June 3, 1973, at the 30th Le Bourget International Air Show (near Paris, France), the first catastrophe of a supersonic airliner in history occurred. The Soviet Tu-144S performed a demonstration flight when, before the eyes of 250-350 thousand spectators, it suddenly crossed into a peak, and after a few seconds it fell apart in the air and fell into the residential areas located beneath it. In total, 14 people were killed in the disaster.

The investigation materials were kept secret, and the official conclusions of the commission of inquiry seemed unsatisfactory to many, which gave rise to a number of hypotheses about the true causes of the disaster.
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  Do you see in this another plot and the machinations of competitors?
  The reason is explained, since the French masters and at this time the highest ranks of France were present, naturally, preference is given to French technology
  
  PS about Kozlov, as the wise guy said below. You still need to look for such goats as the organizers of the PR Su-35s showing it on all channels, in all booklets for the exhibition, pushed into the background their Rafal-more such Kozlov
  First we need to think, and then tell us about the World Conspiracy against Rosoboron
  
  We have not seen such attention to our systems, reviews, or advertising at foreign exhibitions for a long time.
  In flight Su-35s
  1. experienced 18 June 2013 11: 52 New
    
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    Do you see in this another plot and the machinations of competitors?
    
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  2. Bort radist 18 June 2013 11: 58 New
    
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    since the French masters and at this time the highest ranks of France were present, naturally preference was given to French technology
    
    See yourself and others not show.
    1. Rustam 18 June 2013 12: 05 New
      
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      This is the world practice at Max 2011 when visiting Vladimir Putin, American vehicles and French Rafal were also pushed back
      
      PS Yes, if it were in England, I could still have believed (but with difficulty) but there are no guys in France, the country with which Rosoboron is firmly tied to joint projects and joint ventures.
    2. experienced 18 June 2013 12: 10 New
      
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      Rustam is only a “+" from me, I am a supporter of the VAF, and you answer his notions of knowledge
      1. Rustam 18 June 2013 12: 20 New
        
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        Dear colleague, I just try to objectively look at things, and try to tell how it really happens (many friends both in the military-industrial complex and the State services) and criticize mercilessly if they hang noodles
        
        Just as they are promoting the very same Su-35s everyone will envy, naturally, the French are already offering the supply of their avionics for export modifications.
    3. Igorboss16 18 June 2013 16: 58 New
      
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      Our car is beyond competition!
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    In fact, no one bothered to immediately establish the desired order of departures. The result was stupidity.
2. Tersky 18 June 2013 12: 33 New
  
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  Alex, ! The French and in vain with them more than "had enough" of the demonstration performance of our SU -35, .. they ate ... I don’t want to do it at all, and realized that if Ka 52 also spins something like that, they don’t see contracts as their ears ...
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    And what about the delivery of this helicopter to Iraq? They say they concluded a contract?
    1. Rustam 18 June 2013 13: 15 New
      
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      They messed up all the magazines, flew into one ear into the other, and there was no Mi-28n contract with Algeria, announced and highlighted the Mi-28ne contract for Iraq
      
      PS but it is necessary to clarify to the end
3. танк 18 June 2013 13: 49 New
  
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  that in this way the Tigers deliberately gave advantages.
  
  The author is wrong, as a rule, the latter’s speech is remembered!
  1. self-propelled 18 June 2013 14: 47 New
    
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    the performance of the latter is usually remembered!
    
    usually remembered the best!
    1. танк 18 June 2013 16: 20 New
      
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      all the more! not figs from this tragedy to do and seek political motivation
4. krasin 18 June 2013 16: 49 New
  
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  Be that as it may, the decision of the organizers of the event puzzled the members of the Russian delegation, who considered that in this way the Tigers deliberately gave advantages.
  
  Blue - what can you get from them.
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Subsequently, this strange maneuver of the organizers was unofficially explained by the fact that the French Prime Minister was present at the stands, the safety of which was the reason for the ban on the departure of the Russians,
as well as raising the country's prestige, it would be strange if at the time of the visit to one of the country's top officials there were foreign helicopters and airplanes in the sky - "the nation would not understand." Normal - "just politics ..."
KuigoroZHIK 18 June 2013 11: 26 New
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Yes they are, that's all!
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They are creatures. Sergei Viktorovich Mikheev said that when the KA-50 was taken to Farnborough, a group of technicians from the Kamov Design Bureau were not given a visa to enter England. when the helicopter was already there in a disassembled state in its place in the hall. And our technicians from another design bureau (I don’t remember which one) who were in Farnborough collected it. What to expect from Cove except meanness.
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Geyropeiskih ministers psyche thin it must be protected after the consequences seen may not be predictable to understand it!
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  Don't let the Russians go first -
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and the fact that the French Prime Minister was present in the stands, the security of which was the reason for the ban on the departure of Russians
And that the Alligator with full ammunition stands there ?
1. Sinbad 18 June 2013 11: 50 New
  
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  Conclusion: for the next exhibition, the ammunition should be complete. (Joke)
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Subsequently, this strange maneuver of the organizers was unofficially explained by the fact that the French Prime Minister was present in the stands, the safety of which was the reason for the flight ban to the Russians

And what, we once bombed the French Prime Minister from a helicopter, Chel? I'm sorry. I forgot. Make it clear?

thus, the Tigers deliberately gave advantages.

Free competition in Western European. Nothing special ...
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  thus, the Tigers deliberately gave advantages.
  Free competition in Western European. Nothing special.
  
  After such French tricks, it makes sense to call the KA-52 not an alligator, but a "tiger eater."
  They beat the "tigers" near Prokhorovka, and beat us at Le Bourget!
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After the SU-35 they didn’t move away, at first they showed their buckets so that after the KA-52 they would not be dishonored.
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Well, no, then. Security Frenchman. And suddenly, these barbarians from the north decided to charge the Verushka to the fullest and smash the whole treble, together with the Prime Minister, of something there. We are, we can.
Laugh! They don’t already know where and how to put our foot. Fantasy in "people" below the plinth.
In the course of time, they also aim air defense at our equipment when ours make obedient flights.
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showed no respect for political reasons, show respect militarily)
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As far as I remember Le Bourget, begging there constantly we are being pushed by sticks ... the geyleagatniks do not give us access.
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  French Prime Minister afraid of Russian helicopters?
  
  At the genetic level.
sasha.28blaga 18 June 2013 11: 48 New
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Whatever the audience ran after the KA-52 show, it was launched after the rest.
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And what else can you expect from Tolerasts and liberals. Only petty meannesses in the back. They are not capable of anything else. A vivid example of the gay thinking of modern Europeans
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One can believe everything, but no one will deny that Russian aircraft manufacturers always experience some pressure on European air shows. Remember, India, Southeast Asia, emirates, sultanates - no incidents. But in Europe it’s not so. What are the attempts to arrest our aircraft ...
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In formal language, this is called "unfair competition."
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THEY HAVE BEEN USED FOR THE ROAD TO THE EXTERNAL MARKET, THIS IS ADVERTISING AND RATHERLY STRONG. AFRAID, MEAN RESPECT ...
OF PURE WATER A PSYCHOLOGICAL ATTACK, AND I THINK, OURS IN THE HEARTS FULFILLED AND EXCEEDED THE FLIGHT-INDICATIVE PROGRAM WITH A KEEP, A NESTEROV LOOP AND EFFECTIVE TAKEOFF. FOR EVIL ENEMIES ...
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French Prime Minister afraid of Russian helicopters?
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  Unconsciously subconsciously
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CONSPIRACY!!! PANIC-PANIC-PANIC!
Well, the fact that this is a common thing, and that for the sake of the first persons the performances of technology are displaced - this does not happen, this is unfair competition.
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And what? The most delicious is always finally left, no?
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And what is there to watch after him ???
shamil 18 June 2013 13: 07 New
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the best ones complete the program, because after su 35 ka 52 you can’t see it ......... Or the French left the best for dessert
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It seems to me that such inconsistencies of the flight display, on the contrary, attract viewers and buyers to the KA-52 helicopter, as they said the forbidden fruit is sweet
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the best complete the program

Any athlete knows - speaking last, you always know what result should be guided. Moreover, any ban only increases interest and desire.
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In general, swine is unconditional. The people may have come specially to look at k52, including France’s prime minister ... and they showed them a banana, they also detained them for several hours, apparently so as to guarantee a breakdown for everyone who wanted to watch.
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and figs moved with them and okay, anyway, the technique is unique to other two-axle axles
1c-inform-city 18 June 2013 18: 01 New
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Frogs they ive africa frogs
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no competitors! he is good and let them move the best seen immediately and everywhere.
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the helicopter is not seven-color with us
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Yes, everything’s normal ... they always try to push the most delicious thing to the end, this is just a business move, but I don’t believe in pressure ... because this helicopter is known to many and there is no point in pressing.
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I’m not worried. On opening, they always perform weaker, the most cimus is always at the end of the program.