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Behind every attempt to destroy Russia is her own “elite”


Historical Russia's experience convincingly shows that it is a matter of national and state importance - not to try to adapt self-appointed "elites" to public benefit, but to educate and put forward new ones.

An indispensable condition for the success of any nomenklatura revolution in Russia is the desire of the elite to arrange this revolution for their corporate purposes. “The indignation of the masses” and even “reliance on the interventionists” is just an accompanying toolkit.

About troubled times ...

Four hundred years ago, Russia experienced a political crisis. The crisis, which above all can be called a crisis of power. After the death of the great sovereign Ivan the Terrible, the ruling elite for many years could not come to a political consensus. It is the internal elite confrontation that led (as the crisis developed) to the involvement of external players in the internal political struggle - Poland, Sweden, pursuing their goals and defending their interests. This is on the one hand. On the other hand, the opposing elite clans sought support not only outside, but also among the people. Boyar groups tried to use popular indignations caused by crop failures and famine years in their own interests in the struggle for power or for participation in power.

It would not be an exaggeration to say that the main mechanism of the Time of Troubles is the struggle for power within the political elite. At the same time, the hostage of the bout, on the one hand, and the tool, on the other, was the people, their rebellion and outrage. Only if a part of the political elite and / or external actors gain (seize) a function that controls the popular outrage (discontent), can this lead to a real revolution and a change in the political structure of the country.

I want to specifically note that all the Troubles took place exclusively in the capital. And only then it was in the provinces that the militia forces were formed, restoring statehood in Russia.

The so-called popular outrage in itself never has a different perspective than bloodshed, robbery, theft, pogroms and violence. If other players do not stand behind popular riots and indignations (external forces or part of the elite), then the “Russian revolt, senseless and merciless,” ends sooner or later with nothing from the point of view of imperious political changes in the country. However, it is always possible to plunder and plunder. Such was the fate of the uprising and Ivan Bolotnikov in the Time of Troubles, and Stepan Razin, and Yemelyan Pugachev. A people as a rebellious crowd is never a real bearer of political goals. Such is only the political elite. The end of the Troubles and the victory of Russian statehood were based primarily on finding political consensus within the Russian elite, its rejection of any cooperation with foreign players and the support of this consensus by the people.

Who destroyed autocracy

Soviet historiography called the abdication of the sovereign Nicholas II the throne "February bourgeois-democratic revolution", which is true to a certain extent. However, it would be more accurate to call this revolution “military-oligarchic”.

The indignation of the residents (mainly residents) of the capital by the fact that in Petrograd there was no bread for the second day in the shops — the design is artificial and in a certain sense demonstrative. The “revolutionary situation” due to the lack of fresh bread developed only in the capital, and relatively few people took to the streets of the city - for a generally trivial reason that could easily be eliminated or not allowed at all.

In fact, by February 1917, an oligarchic conspiracy was organized inside the ruling political elite, in which high-ranking military officials were involved, corrupt in the process of supplying the means of war to the troops. It was the tsarist generals who in fact forced Nicholas first, and then Michael, to abdicate the throne and transfer power to the so-called Provisional Government. This renunciation was not motivated by any real demand from the people for the overthrow of the king. The king as an institution prevented the then political clans and oligarchic groups from fighting for power and for the possibility of the formation of superprofits. The difficulties of wartime and sabotage, which fueled popular indignation, became in the hands of the elite groups striving for power the instruments of overthrowing the king.

The role of German intelligence in these and subsequent events (the October seizure of power by the Bolsheviks) has been studied fairly well. However, the role of the British Crown is no less interesting. Britain is the driving belt of intervention and the Civil War in Russia. In this war for more than four years, we have killed ourselves.

There is currently no exact final data on the number of victims of this Big Troubles. According to weighted average estimates, about 10,5 million people were killed on the fronts, suffered from “red” and “white” terror, from banditry, from hunger and epidemics. The fact that after such losses and such self-destruction, the country was able to withstand and only twenty years later win the most terrible war in the history of mankind (the Great Patriotic War), is incredible.

At the same time, the victory of the Reds was largely due not only to the popularity and intelligibility of socialist (communist) rhetoric, but also to the fact that the Reds opposed themselves to foreign intervention, and the whites, on the contrary, relied on it. The lessons of the First Time of Troubles (1593 — 1612 years) were repeated once again: those who strive for power in our country, relying on external support, ultimately do not have success.

Intellectuals as a consumable for party nomenclature

The so-called perestroika, and then the collapse of the USSR, is a purely elite project and only elite. The masses of the people were included in it strictly according to plan and according to the plan they were used in a rude and cynical form.

By the 70 years, the Soviet nomenclature for the most part understood that the power of families and clans within the Soviet system is irreproducible. The constant threat of cleansing. At best, children and grandchildren can inherit an apartment, which, moreover, can always be taken away. Even a device for the prestigious work of the heirs was possible only while the parent was "in the cage." The nomenclature is tired. It became clear that further will only get worse. And the Soviet elite really took care of how to make their "elitism" hereditary. In addition to the formation of family capital, the nomenclature could not invent a different system of reproduction of power.

The USSR was doomed, since a significant part of the Soviet elite set itself precisely this goal. And this goal coincided with the aspirations of external players. The rest was, as they say, the matter of technology. It was necessary to organize and skillfully direct discontent and popular outrage. And there was a lot of dissatisfaction: who was annoyed by the lack of consumer goods, some by the lack of a sufficient set of foodstuffs, who were both deficient at the same time, and who were privileges of the party nomenclature. Much in our life did not like, and this discontentment was specially formed, created and intensified.

By the way, the fate of the USSR referendum is curious. With a seemingly large number of disgruntled people, the people did not want the country's disintegration. Those who entered the so-called defense of the White House in August 1991 of the year did not want to destroy the Soviet Union in the least, did not anticipate the Belovezhsk Accords and began the "construction of capitalism" in our country. The defenders of the White House were only outraged at the attempt to seize power by a group of unsympathetic comrades - greatly frightened and having an insane hangover look.

By the way, the same today, those who gather in Bolotnaya argue that in no case do they want neither civil war, nor revolution, nor the collapse of the country. They simply resent how the votes in the parliamentary elections were counted.

It should be understood that those who play in the Big Political Games are absolutely not interested in why (or why) people actually go outside. Their task is to use ANY popular indignation for their own purposes.

Then, at the end of 80's, it was not difficult. Moreover, the Soviet population is a highly educated population. Moreover, it is idealistically educated, therefore susceptible to ideological treatment. The Soviet population did not want and did not know how to live without ideology. The communist worldview was deliberately destroyed, arguing that now there would be no ideology at all, in fact replacing the communist way of thinking with the ideology of the market and liberal democracy. With the same force with which the Soviet people believed in communism, they believed in the bright future of liberal capitalism. The Soviet intelligentsia, prone to fantasies and actively helpless (“give me freedom, then I'll show it!”), Is the most fertile material to use in the dark. She and used in full in the "struggle for freedom."

* * *

The so-called “protest activity”, which stirred up in December 2011, is not fundamentally different from the one described above. And here the “creative class” has absolutely nothing to do with it, nor “disgruntled citizens”.

What unhappy left on the square? Many: fair elections, migrants, the Russian question, conditions for business, corruption, fatigue from Putin, freedom of sexual minorities, or lack of freedom of sexual minorities. In general, as we already know, it is completely unimportant what exactly they do not like. The question is how these crowds are used.

It is already obvious that all these various “discontent” are skillfully replaced by one, but the main and principal discontent - “Down with Putin!”. Because it is obvious that in a normal, fair and legitimate election, Putin wins. The overthrow of Putin is the main and already practically declared goal.

And this goal is clearly imposed on “angry citizens” from the margins of the next intra-elite confrontation. The main question is how much the participants in this confrontation are ready to defend their clan interests through the new Troubles. And it is better to get rid of this dependence.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 18 June 2013 10: 42 New
    +6
    The main question is to what extent are the participants in this confrontation ready to defend their clan interests through the new Troubles.
    I agree, and it is unacceptable to allow the development of events in such a scenario ...
    1. krasin
      krasin 18 June 2013 17: 01 New
      +2
      The main question is to what extent are the participants in this confrontation ready to defend their clan interests through the new Troubles.

      I agree, and it is unacceptable to allow the development of events in such a scenario ..

      The people see what is happening and soon the scenario will be, quite the contrary. How much more can thieves be tolerated in power? But excuse me, I don’t see anyone who is even at the level (to the eggs) equal to Putin. Au Au ???? There isn’t such a thing - all the messages!
      1. Siberian German
        Siberian German 20 June 2013 08: 17 New
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        so tolerant and not humming
  2. agbykov
    agbykov 18 June 2013 15: 19 New
    +4
    Igor Shafarevich logically accurately and with facts has long written about this "elite" (see. "Russophobia")
  3. Komodo
    Komodo 18 June 2013 15: 21 New
    0


    Very interesting video in the topic.
    1. MG42
      MG42 18 June 2013 15: 42 New
      +3
      Do not get too carried away with such videos, their mass of the same type compilation varies .. Pay attention Starikov not badly furnished the room, everything is in a gilded interior .. lol
  4. krez-74
    krez-74 18 June 2013 15: 27 New
    +4
    The so-called aristocracy (although the bearers of this title are often worse than Neanderthals) often lives in isolation from the needs of the common people, the majority, on which everything rests! It is from this that they break what they did not build.
    A peasant club often sets their brains on them, and this happens with constant cycling.
    1. smile
      smile 18 June 2013 15: 43 New
      +9
      krez-74
      a peasant club, unfortunately, most often kicks the brains out of the heads of other peasants. And then you have to save the country from these peasant clubs, which immediately begin to be controlled by those who do not give a damn about how a peasant lives in Russia - usually they have other goals - just weakening the country and, therefore, worsening the lives of those same displeased men. But men don’t know ...
      1. krez-74
        krez-74 18 June 2013 15: 56 New
        +7
        Naturally, the peasants need a strong leader, but that's another story ... With such a problem today, there are no such! But on the account of the one who saved the country, this same man saved, and he did not care who the aristocrat was and who was not.
        We now all talk to each other on the "gentleman", funny. They live in shit, and all the "gentlemen")))
        1. zart_arn
          zart_arn 18 June 2013 20: 20 New
          +2
          We now all communicate with each other on the "gentleman", funny

          I agree with you, miserable treatment, degrading the applicant.
          "Comrade" - too personal, many "comrades" from the former "Tambov wolves."
          I am offended that the beautiful Russian word "citizen" has been turned into a curse word here, I think that this is how we should turn to unfamiliar compatriots.

          "You may not be a poet,
          But a citizen must be.
          And what is a citizen?
          Fatherland worthy son.
          Oh! will be with us merchants, cadets,
          Petty bourgeois, officials, nobles,
          Even poets are enough for us,
          But we need, we need citizens! "
      2. avt
        avt 18 June 2013 16: 25 New
        +4
        Quote: smile
        a peasant club, unfortunately, most often kicks the brains out of the heads of other peasants.

        ,, ... All the lads changed into tailcoats, but remained the lads according to the notions and while the peasants muzzled their faces in the fray, they rake my goddess ... "Trofim Everything is correctly noted in the article good and it is completely confirmed by concrete facts.
  5. Black
    Black 18 June 2013 15: 30 New
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    By the 70s, the Soviet nomenclature for the most part understood that the power of families and clans within the framework of the Soviet system was not reproducible. The constant threat of purges. At best, children and grandchildren can inherit an apartment, which they can always take away. Even applying for the prestigious work of the heirs was possible only while the parent was “in the cage”. The nomenclature is tired. It became clear that it would only get worse. And the Soviet elite really took care of how to make their “elitism” hereditary. In addition to the formation of family capital, the nomenclature could not come up with another system of reproduction of power. [/ Color]

    Gold words!!!!! And no conspiracy theories are needed. The CPSU merged the country and the state. Gorbachev- hands from papier-mâché, thread- "up and into the dark." West only took advantage and pushed.
    I will believe in Russian state power only when at the level of the President’s Address the names and surnames, the role of the GB, the role of the top leadership of the power structures, and the volume of party assets removed abroad will be announced to the people. Just as Comrade said Sukhov- "IT IS SO LIKE !!!" ...
  6. creak
    creak 18 June 2013 15: 37 New
    +6
    Sensible and to the point. The essence of the late Soviet party nomenclature, both in the center and in the union republics, is most accurately captured.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 18 June 2013 21: 14 New
      +1
      That's right. Not from the collapse of the Soviet Union, that a few traitors wound up in it. Most of the nomenclature simply rotted in the bud. And by the way, it seems that perestroika was one of the most effective ways ... to destroy all these degenerates along with their heir kids!
      Because they accumulated money and property ... and who guaranteed it to them that they would keep all this ?! Under the conditions of wild capitalism, that is, a predatory battle between everyone and everyone, that dumb, mean and evil dad, that no less dumb, but also pampered and weak kids, all of them showed a very low potential for survival! Which is to be expected. Only they did not expect, they were not selected to the nomenclature for the brains, which was not what was not.
      Such an elite that we had rules in the 80 were not able to cope with a great country (by the way, staff members were afraid of this panicky, rightly believing that the short-witted parthush would try to get out in the form of a large-scale war. They underestimated the cowardice of those who even tried to forbid karate classes!) . The USSR was already dead when it fell, I'm sure of it. Will the new construction of the Power succeed in us, is our potential as a country exhausted?
      It will depend on whether we find unifying principles and goals. Because "we will get more coal ... Abramovich on a new yacht" - this is not the slogan that will strengthen our unity. And “gobble” is for the Americans. It’s quite enough for them ... It is very, very dangerous to hope for the accomplishments of the past. The Great Victory is our everything. Yes, but she ALREADY HAD. If the PRESENT future in the Russian understanding does not wait for us ...
  7. smile
    smile 18 June 2013 15: 37 New
    +4
    It would be very interesting to hear the opinions and arguments of people. rated the article negatively. Why? I beg you to answer.
    Thanks to the author.
    1. dmb
      dmb 18 June 2013 16: 27 New
      +6
      Basically aviamed90 answered. I can only add that I would not be so categorical about the "first Swamp". The point is not Putin personally, but the course he is pursuing. Of course, judging by the speeches of "lamp-bearing" or "three-volt", then there is no greater good for the country. But if you look at the increase in tariffs, energy prices, which are higher than in those countries where there are no such carriers, and there are different little things like education with Livanov or defense with Serdyukov, then the optimism of the above, as well as the author of the article, is highly questioned. It is as a result of this doubt and lack of confidence that the EP is truly loved by the people, and came to the Swamp majority. And that representatives of the family of ungulates, which are the majority to the light bulb, climbed onto the podium, it is not without the help of the authorities. It is clear that Russia will not follow them.
      1. smile
        smile 18 June 2013 16: 44 New
        +6
        dmb
        Clear. I also have big complaints about the leadership of the country. Many things are generally inexplicable .... But the author is right for all 100 in the fact that if the change of power occurs through the "swamp", it is always worse. all the more so if you look at those who lead the protest movement, and who, accordingly, would come to power if the opposition’s actions were successful in the field of overthrowing the legally elected government (well, you must agree, it is the leaders of the victorious political movements that come to power) ... I want to agree with the author in everything ...
    2. baltika-18
      baltika-18 18 June 2013 16: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: smile
      It would be very interesting to hear the opinions and arguments of people. rated the article negatively. Why? I beg you to answer.

      Why minus? They compile the Old Man's sayings. To write such articles you need knowledge on topics, documents, analysis. The author does not give anything. Starikova read, retold and all.
      The mission is completed, the campaign material for the current government is ready.
      1. smile
        smile 18 June 2013 16: 37 New
        +4
        baltika-18
        Logically. But I still liked the article :))))
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 18 June 2013 17: 05 New
          +2
          Quote: smile
          But I liked the article anyway

          Well, it’s partly true in it. And the truth is always attractive. And you know, Vladimir, at first I was crazy about Starikov and Fedorov, but then, as I visited his website and looked at the materials, the delight gave way to disappointment. I just realized that this was another project , not without the participation of the authorities. What confused me in the first place? Their original interpretation of the concept of nationalization. This was enough for me to understand the essence of their actions and the intermediate and final goals.
          1. smile
            smile 18 June 2013 17: 30 New
            +1
            baltika-18 (
            I was not enthusiastic about his books, but I really liked many. Nevertheless, just as I did not like some of his conclusions ... you interested me. it will be necessary to climb on his site.
          2. Ivan.
            Ivan. 18 June 2013 22: 09 New
            0
            Quote: baltika-18
            Quote: smile
            But I liked the article anyway

            Well, it’s partly true in it. And the truth is always attractive. And you know, Vladimir, at first I was crazy about Starikov and Fedorov, but then, as I visited his website and looked at the materials, the delight gave way to disappointment. I just realized that this was another project , not without the participation of the authorities. What confused me in the first place? Their original interpretation of the concept of nationalization. This was enough for me to understand the essence of their actions and the intermediate and final goals.

            Indeed, it seems that the authorities decided to lead the growing protest mood. I became interested in him before the creation of the PGR, then he called for unification — I was even happy at last, but when he announced the details, I realized that there was no question of unification, but only the creation of another organization on a patriotic wave, that is, many were already disappointed and became easy prey for a fresh "idea." In general, too, was disappointed.
    3. IRBIS
      IRBIS 18 June 2013 16: 34 New
      +4
      Quote: smile
      I beg you to answer.

      I answer. However, in the beginning I will say that the conclusions are, in principle, correct. But:
      Everything is too simplified. An attempt to fit into a short article what you cannot squeeze into volumes.
      The weakness of the king and his power - this is the main reason for the revolution. In ten years, a similar dilemma will arise before Stalin and he will solve it, once and for all.
      The controversial theses about reliance on external forces — the Bolsheviks came to power based on these forces, but then they surprised the whole world when they “sent” these forces far and long in Genoa.
      Controversial and conflicts in the elite of the USSR.
      I repeat that the conclusions are correct. Bulk, Udaltsovs, Nemtsovs - all this is pop Gapon of modern Russia, in other words - provocateurs looking for their profit on the money of the Customer. And our authorities need to remember what the resulting weakness leads to.
      1. smile
        smile 18 June 2013 17: 33 New
        +1
        IRBIS
        Accepted. I agree. For the sake of justice, I want to say that the author excuses the fact that the author did not have the opportunity to choose the volume of the article. :)))
    4. uwzek
      uwzek 18 June 2013 18: 17 New
      +4
      I would venture to answer. Firstly, the author has gone too far in history. The post-Ivanovo time of troubles was rather muddy, as it was described almost two hundred years later and with a clear reason to explain the accession to the throne of the Russian German Romanov family. February 1917 is also a very muddy time (in contrast to October), the generals had changed a lot by that time, they were mostly fighting and were unlikely to have lied a lot. A little later, the same generals who are Red, who created the White Army, but certainly did not use the St. Petersburg "riots" for their own selfish purposes. The author’s surprise at the ability of the USSR, after a citizen with many millions of victims to win the Second World War, is apparently due to his rejection of the role of the Genatsvale Dzhugashvili. Personally, I also consider it tasteless, but this "" really made the fortress out of the country. With the outbreak of war, he surrendered greatly, but without what Stalin had made from Russia in the thirties, not a single Zhukov-Konev-Rokossovsky war would have won. Further closer to realities, but ... The author too exaggerates the selfish motives of our nomenclature (in terms of leaving children acquired overwork). At the time of Khrushchev-Brezhnev, they were more afraid of the arrival of the second Stalin, who stupidly rotated all the authorities every three years through camps and executions. Note that neither Gorbachev’s children, nor Yeltsin’s children, nor Putin’s children are in power anywhere ... As a result of the author’s creation, there remains a statement that any great construction site ends with the punishment of the innocent and the rewarding of those who are not involved ... Sincerely, Andrey.
      1. smile
        smile 18 June 2013 18: 42 New
        +2
        uwzek
        Thank you.
        Although I do not quite agree with you about Stalin. By the way - about the children - the children of Elbon and Gorbachev are arranged, God forbid everyone, and the children of Stalin and almost the entire leadership went to the front ...
        With no less respect. Vladimir
    5. hramckov2012
      hramckov2012 18 June 2013 19: 03 New
      +4
      rated negatively only because of the last 4 paragraphs. judging by them do not worry and the best GDP. my opinion is the best of the worst. Even with my military education, it is clear that in 13 years it could have been better many times over. they give it a plus that stability is now, but this is not a criterion for evaluating the leader of a world power. what kind of stability can we talk about if the country's population is reduced, and the whole country works so that the rich Prokhorov and Abramovich
  8. aviamed90
    aviamed90 18 June 2013 15: 38 New
    +1
    Quote:
    "What are the dissatisfied with those who came to the square? To many: the honesty of the elections, migrants, the Russian question, the conditions for business, corruption, tiredness from Putin, ..."

    I am also not happy with all this. But I am not happy with those who are trying to get into the “leaders” of the opposition. These citizens do not suit me as "leading."
    Maybe because I remember who and what of them is and what I called for in the recent past! These people are not authoritative and compromised. Therefore, I am not with them.

    The author suggests that they (for some reason call them the "elite") and the rest of the people (Russian citizens) shut up and remain silent only to keep Putin in power? Refuse to solve in the country long overdue problems just for this? And the fact that they overripe clearly show zero success in their decision for 3 presidential terms.
    From modesty, the author will not die!

    And a strange statement sounds where the author directly connects the country's refusal from Putin with a new unrest. What are these assumptions based on?
    What? A third option for the development of events and a change of power can not be in principle? And why can't it be?

    Historical parallels, of course, are given, but ...
    We live now! And the situation in the country was exactly the same as it is now! And not in 1917. And it is different from what it was before.

    The article is an unconvincing campaign for the incumbent president.

    And for the article "minus"!
    1. little man
      little man 18 June 2013 16: 04 New
      0
      I agree. The same minus. The article must replace the word elite with power.
      Power is masterly puppeteers. A string is pulled harder - people on the street.
      To give a weak spot means throwing yourself at the loot. That's all arithmetic.
      1. smile
        smile 18 June 2013 17: 37 New
        +3
        little man
        Pralna - "To hell with the door! Blind I Drink." - Down with the power! Long live anarchy! Which mat order ... and atets! The jungle is called !!! :)))
  9. Stelth
    Stelth 18 June 2013 15: 42 New
    +2
    As long as we are led to the "infusion" from the TV, tyrnet, etc., the so-called "elite" will drive us like sheep at a rally, then at a demonstration ... or even at war. Everyone is required to be an elite, but only in his family and for his children, parents and spouse (a). I haven’t visited the site for a long time and I got the impression that many people don’t want to do anything - that’s why they discuss the “elite”. I can only understand people of respectable age who, by virtue of the knowledge, experience and wisdom they have, express their opinion, but it would be better for young people to take up the development of their families and themselves. With a normal attitude towards yourself and your family, there should not be time to visit sites and discuss any nonsense. Minimum years to 50.
  10. individual
    individual 18 June 2013 15: 53 New
    +5
    Quote:
    "The communist worldview was deliberately destroyed, arguing that now there would be no ideology at all, but in fact replacing the communist way of thinking with the ideology of the market and liberal democracy."

    The USSR was destroyed by Gorbachev and the schismatic Yeltsin.
    The activities of Gaidar as editor of the journal “Communist” and head of the economy department of the newspaper “Pravda” led to the destruction of the ideology of the communist faith in the future of the USSR / Russia.
    The people lost their ideals and rushed headlong into the "bright" capitalistic tomorrow, but hit hard against the wall of anti-people reforms - began to look around, what happened, where did we get to?
    Either open enemies of Russia or people who have not yet removed the “blinkers” from the eyes go to the “swamp” and other gatherings.
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 18 June 2013 15: 58 New
      +2
      individ

      I agree with you.

      But just because other people who disagree with the actions (inaction) of the authorities do not come out does not mean that they agree with what is happening in the country.
      And the fact that there are many of them in the country is a fact.
      1. little man
        little man 18 June 2013 16: 36 New
        +2
        Exactly. I stood in line at the store. And one aunt moaned that the food is bad, people feed shit, no control, and you say everyone is silent and put up with it instead of protesting. Well, the other tells her that everything is right, but I will not let my husband or son go to the demonstration - burn it all with fire.
    2. little man
      little man 18 June 2013 16: 31 New
      -1
      And let me ask where to go then?
      Or protest here? Maybe the president, the cabinet or the Duma’s website will visit?
    3. Karabin
      Karabin 18 June 2013 16: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: individ
      people have not yet removed the "blinkers" from the eyes.

      WTO, “not base”, “not 37 years old”, Skolkovo, Rusnano with Chubais, Olympic and other unpunished cuts, offshore ministerial jinks - all God's dew.
  11. Mr.
    Mr. Gambu4aS 18 June 2013 16: 06 New
    +1
    As I have noticed, historians have lately been pulling everyone into our twentieth-century revolutions - the “German intelligence”, and the “British crown”, and part of the ruling elite, who wanted a bigger pie, but for some reason the fact that in both revolutions is most common is silent "Jews rose, you don’t have to be a historian to read the names of those who, after these revolutions, soared to the highest posts and earned a lot of money on the grief of the common people, for some reason I don’t see German, English names among them, but" mana "and" ichi "suspiciously much.
  12. knn54
    knn54 18 June 2013 16: 20 New
    +5
    - For each attempt to destroy Russia, there is its own "elite".
    “If your elite holds money in our banks, it is still unknown whose elite it is, yours or ours ...” Z. Brzezinski.
    -Intelligence as a consumable for party nomenclature.
    “The Russian revolutionary socialist intelligentsia crystallized into a special race, into a special breed of people that can be recognized even by their physical appearance, and this race cannot dominate. Her dominance and dominion is anthropological, psychological and moral absurdity .... " (N.A. Berdyaev.)
    “Russia was ruined by the ethnicity of the intelligentsia, the only case in the history of the world forgetting the national idea by the brains of the nation” (A. Sturua)
    "I'm not an intellectual - I have a profession."
    Nabokov.
    Nomenclature is a SCARY and UGLY phenomenon. And while THEM real power - there is no prosperity, creation and our unification.
  13. Karabin
    Karabin 18 June 2013 16: 45 New
    +2
    In general, as we already know, it does not matter what they do not like. The question is how these crowds are used.

    It is already obvious that all these various “discontent” are skillfully replaced by one, but the main and principal discontent - “Down with Putin!”. Because it is obvious that in a normal, fair and legitimate election, Putin wins. The overthrow of Putin is the main and already practically declared goal.

    And who of the so-called elite set such a goal? The author did not even hint, not only at the personalities, but even at the grouping. And the reason is simple. There is no such group in the elite. And those who are do not belong to the elite. And why does Putin not suit his own elite? The oligarchs with property and money, the "red" Tolik is untouchable, the other Tolik is impenetrable, friends and former colleagues get rich, the wives of ministers earn stable 10 times more husbands, housing and communal services, energy live their lives, capital freely moves abroad, state funds " mastered by "billions. Nobody is truly punished for theft. What can we say about budget milking schemes that do not fall under the Criminal Code, but are no less profitable. Any business can be flunked with impunity, from defense to education.
    The whole message of the article - Or Putin, or turmoil. Those who are unhappy should keep quiet in a rag, but you see, they are using protest, not those. In general, do not bother Putin to share the country with his elite. There is still something to share.
    1. fisherman
      fisherman 19 June 2013 05: 48 New
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      It seems to me that the message of the article is much simpler - to go along with the people, then this is not a turmoil, but a truly evolutionary movement, designed for a long-term result, and not for throwing from one extreme to another ...
  14. Orik
    Orik 18 June 2013 17: 10 New
    +1
    The "fish" rots from the head in both personal and public cases. In the personal one, the evil thought comes first, the person accepts it or not, the sinful thought begins, then the sinful act, the sinful act repeated many times, turns into a passion that already rules the person. In society, through the personal fall of the higher, there is also a gradual departure from the truth, first of individual individuals, then groups are formed, for the sake of their egoistic aspirations they become the vehicles of destructive ideas for the majority. God openly says “son, give me your heart”, does not manipulate and recognizes the freedom of choice for a person (without it, a person would be an animal), and a crafty one (not for nothing it is called that) gives an outwardly visible “good” thought, even “fair” (for example, I’m paid little, I’m short paid), then a person performs one, two, ..., one hundred and this becomes a passion that requires more and more. For most, the phrase "there is nothing to blame for the mirror if the face is crooked" is appropriate. Our "elite" is a section of society, the majority of society wanted a more satisfying life in the late 80s and early 90s, but no one promised that for the majority.
  15. 128mgb
    128mgb 18 June 2013 17: 22 New
    +4
    I’ve never understood the word “elite” as applied to people. I can understand the elite wheat, the elite boar-producer, the elite house in the end! In the first case, the harvest is good, in the second litter, a house with all amenities. And an elite person is how?
    1. smile
      smile 18 June 2013 17: 50 New
      +4
      128mgb
      It turns out - a boar-consumer-record holder! :)))) The record holder for the consumption of all goods, especially dodgy in their extraction, has a serious fighting potential to defend production from the encroachments of competitors - other representatives of the "elite" ... sometimes he shows the gift of sweet nightingale nightingale, lulling people with melodious grunting for the purpose of their further deprivation of material wealth, or misleading them, if people nevertheless take him for a crack at the deed ... the main difference is physical inability to creative work, a fundamental ideological parasitism ...
  16. olviko
    olviko 18 June 2013 18: 03 New
    +3
    Quote: smile
    It would be very interesting to hear the opinions and arguments of people. rated the article negatively. Why? I beg you to answer.
    Thanks to the author.


    The disadvantages of the article, from my point of view, include a somewhat one-sided consideration of the pre-perestroika period of time, the composition of those forces that contributed to the collapse of the USSR. The role that appeared in Brezhnev’s times, and maybe earlier, the strata of the so-called guild guards, is not disclosed. This small group of people, who were tossed about by large cash flows, had the opportunity, on the ground, to bribe individual representatives of the party and Soviet authorities, employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, providing a "roof" for themselves, while corrupting and corrupt authorities. This people was vitally interested in destroying the entire ideology and system of power existing then, because it prevented not only enrichment, but also the realization of what was acquired by “overwhelming” labor. Gradually, there was a merger, in the criminal community, of money and power. It is clear that no state can live and develop on such a rotten foundation. In general, the theme of the defeat of a great country has not yet been completely disclosed. What role did the people themselves play in this matter, what kind of intelligentsia?
    1. smile
      smile 18 June 2013 18: 35 New
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      olviko
      Thank you. There are drawbacks. The main thing is a small volume. :))) In general, you are right.
  17. homosum20
    homosum20 18 June 2013 18: 09 New
    +2
    Opposition is not the main thing. Corruption is not the main thing. The crisis of production is not the main thing. The main thing is that the country England exists on planet Earth and its satellite is the USA. I did not make a reservation. For centuries, England has developed techniques for maintaining equilibrium in the world under which it flourished. When the United States arose - and they were included in the instrument of prosperity of the Anglo-Saxons. As long as this ulcer exists, we will not have rest.
  18. Begemot
    Begemot 18 June 2013 18: 25 New
    +1
    He put a plus, although not everything is indisputable and lacks specificity: who were these people from the elite in the USSR? Where are they now ?, Who, by name, is preparing a rebellion against the legitimately elected president? If you just threaten your finger into the void and threaten in a whisper "I see, I see! Wow, I have you !!" and do not give names, why then develop the topic.
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 18 June 2013 19: 37 New
      -2
      A riot against the president is being prepared by the president himself and the Masonic group around.
      The chain is something like this: sending weapons and people to the rebels in Syria, storming Damascus, Iranian intervention, conflict with Iran, North Korean invasion of Primorye, the war in the Arctic, loss of army, internal unrest, loss of control, self-organization, natural disaster, restoration on a new basis.
  19. GEO
    GEO 18 June 2013 20: 07 New
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    Anglo-Saxo-Jewish Interests Behind Every Attempt to Destroy Russia
  20. My address
    My address 18 June 2013 22: 23 New
    +3
    Eighty years ago, Ilf and Petrov beautifully described the current kitchen-marsh intelligentsia in the Golden Calf in Vasiualei Lokhankin.
  21. cartridge
    cartridge 18 June 2013 22: 23 New
    +2
    Behind every attempt to destroy Russia is her own “elite”


    Only a change in these very elites every 6-8 years will provide an opportunity for the development of the country. I steered 6 years and if there are no positive results noticeable to every Russian, then welcome to the cage or to the wall!
    The next volunteers to steer - come in!
    And so as not to run away anywhere, the families of the rulers should be surrounded with reasonable comfort, but they should not be allowed out of Russia until the end of the reign. Let them be a kind of state hostage! The head of an elite family was stolen or betrayed - with it households go to hard labor or to the wall!
    Then, then, the empty-bones that want to reign on the Russian throne will immediately decrease!
  22. Tambov we ...
    Tambov we ... 18 June 2013 23: 10 New
    +1
    The concepts - players, elite, constructions - are very interestingly interwoven into our lives, they simplify, so that it is easier to manipulate consciousness, people are confused with representations of a simple chessboard, like a horse moved (a certain player), and he is a queen (also a player). And about the identity of the nation is silent. As a matter of fact, there was no Russian spirit, Russian Great History, but there were only soldiers who could be moved without loss for the mover. And who is this mover? So you need to think now.
  23. Tambov we ...
    Tambov we ... 19 June 2013 00: 30 New
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    Here's an interesting point - I am writing a complaint to the site - I did not ask to underline the word “move”, and even more so turn it into an incomprehensible link for me. AND THE SITE, OR THE ROBOT IS GIVING OUT - You cannot complain about yourself. What is ??!
  24. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 19 June 2013 04: 42 New
    +6
    What is this elite ??? Clans fighting for a piece fatter and when one gang weakens, the other takes power and this is called revolution, unrest, coup, etc. In a word, everywhere is POPSA. It seems they sing - but there’s nothing to listen to, they seem to teach - and all the ignoramuses seem to heal - and everyone dies, they seem to direct - but there is no improvement, and if something is blinded, then they themselves are terrified of what was done.
  25. ocvbc
    ocvbc 19 June 2013 12: 00 New
    0
    The people in the network leaked the entire database about us all! Now you can watch any information about everyone who interests you! Use until you close! Here's the link - clck.ru/8hBBA