"This is not a plane, it's just a UFO": the Russian Su-35 fighter shocked Le Bourget

The 50th anniversary international aerospace show opens at Le Bourget. The exhibition will run all week. More than 1,500 companies will present their latest developments, including 46 Russian. The loudest domestic premieres are the Su-35-C fighter, the Yak-130 aircraft and the Ka-52 combat helicopter.

At the largest anniversary international air show in Le Bourget, more than two thousand companies are represented. 44 countries show samples of civil and military equipment. But the attention of all is riveted to the latest Russian fighter Su-35. His French put in the center of the main avenue.

30-mm gun, 12 suspension points for rockets and bombs, target detection range exceeds 400 kilometers, and the on-board radar allows you to track an object at a distance over 80 thousands of meters. Su-35 without refueling flies more than three and a half thousand kilometers. This is the fourth-generation fighter in the world.

Before the training flight the car is examined by the technicians The design withstands overloads of up to 14,5 units, despite the fact that for a person the limit is ten. The cockpit protects the pilot.

Honored Test Pilot Hero of Russia Sergei Bogdan tested more than fifty military aircraft. He says that the Su-35 engine is special. One kilogram of weight accounts for one kilogram of weight, which makes it possible to perform the most complicated aerobatic maneuvers - “spatial barrels”, somersaults, “flat spin”, “Pugachev's cobra”.

At Su-35 for the first time tested vector thrust. This is the only machine in the world that can make a “pancake” - a turn on 360 degrees in the horizontal plane without loss of speed.

Mikhail Pogosyan, director of the United Aircraft Corporation, was in the past an engineer and chief designer of the Sukhoi Design Bureau, watching the fighter’s flight, clearly worried. Su-35 abroad is presented for the first time.

Foreign experts are showing increased interest in the fighter and recognize Russia's leadership in this industry. “I’ve seen 22 of the year in this industry, but this flight is something incredible!” Said engineer Christian Kunovski. “This is not a fighter, this is just a UFO! Frankly, I cried for the first time in my life with delight!”

Until the end of 2015, the 48 of such aircraft will appear in service with the Russian army. Ten - already in the ranks. Rosoboronexport expects to begin deliveries abroad. At Le Bourget, they plan to sign contracts for the sale of three cars at once: Su-35, Yak-130 and Ka-52 helicopter. In addition, the transfer of the first Russian passenger aircraft Superjet-100 Mexican company InterJet.

Comments

[experienced]

Yesterday in the news on ORT showed a flight .... FANTASY !!!!!!!!!
Thanks to the creators of the car and the pilot, this is a song !!! Some emotions, let techies talk about TTX

[klimpopov]

2: 25 is fantastic !!!

[Denis]

Quote: klimpopov

2: 25 is fantastic !!!

Seeing all this live, anyone will cry, thanks.

[Corsair]

Quote: Denis

Seeing all this live, anyone will cry, thanks.

What other "FIGURE" should be "pushed" so that the USA and others, tails between their legs, whine?

[fisherman]

only a gun to the temple :)

[Nick]

Quote: Corsair

What other "FIGURE" should be "pushed" so that the USA and others, tails between their legs, whine?

Quantity and quality go hand in hand. If a dozen and a half Yusov F-35s attack one of our super Su-15s, it will be difficult for him. This is me to the fact that we must really saturate our Air Force with these machines, and not just demonstrate their capabilities at air shows ...

[Genady1976]

Correctly said to the very point
otherwise the Chinese will not buy enough for ours

[edge]

Quote: Genady1976

and then the Chinese will buy everything our not enough

they can’t copy the engines, they deliver ours to them: if they happen, their aviation stake will be no repair components ...... and it pleases.

[Beck]

Quote: hert

and then the Chinese will buy everything ours is not enough ...

they can’t copy the engines, they deliver ours to them: if they happen, their aviation stake will be no repair components ...... and it pleases.

It seems to me that Gurt has been arguing too long. In any air regiment, any army, there is always some reserve and untouchable reserve of everything. And modern conflicts, more or less modern armies, do not last for four years.

That is, if four years, then of course the question arises of the repair kit. If a month, then what kind of repair. The plane either completed its task or was shot down. How many spare parts were needed for the fighters of the Israeli army in the six-day war. Spare parts are needed precisely during prolonged use in peacetime.

[gauche]

It's like that. This should be a weapon to protect the country. While more goods for sale.

[Scoun]

Quote: Corsair

whisked their tails together?

Yes, they whine .... Geyropeytsy sucks .. went dirty tricks ...

LE BOURGE (France), June 17 - RIA Novosti. Ban on take-off of the Ka-52 helicopter at the exhibition in Le Bourget was dictated by fear of competition, RIA Novosti reported on Monday at a show in Le Bourget that a source in the Russian delegation.

RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20130617/943915654.html#ixzz2WUCFMKAY

[Linkor200]

The Corsair - Dear "Corsair". I understand that hot pirate blood is wandering in you. But, nevertheless, I cannot understand why you want "the USA and others ... to whine plaintively." What did they / the States / do wrong to you personally? Well, let's suppose that there was something bad between you and the States that you, personally, can oppose in opposition to 10 / ten / nuclear aircraft carrier groups, as well as numerous base aviation, numbering thousands, mind you, operational combat aircraft. Perhaps the aerodynamics and energy capabilities of the F-14, F-18, F-16 and F-15 will be slightly lower than those of the last "Sushka", but after all, the 21st century is in the courtyard, and it is now in a struggle / or in a kind of competition / they take not only by the throat - then by the power of the engine, but also by the intellect - by avionics, electronics, rational control of weapons. And here, I'm afraid, a really decent and cool plane - the 35th "Drying", will yield to the competitors I have listed. After all, it's not a secret for anyone that Soviet / Russian / avionics electronics have always been of lower quality than Western ones. And therefore I am afraid that no "Pugachev's cobra" will save the plane from the stinging swarm of missiles with impressive intelligence. Look, Corsair. There is absolutely no malice or scoffing in me. And I like the "Sukhoi - 35" - a really beautiful and decent car. I just tried, as best I could, to objectively assess the situation. And the last thing. Would the famous Pokryshkin, who fought almost the entire war in the Aircobra, would have agreed with your statements. I think he respected allies in the common fight against a REALLY dangerous and cruel enemy. And the plane did not disappoint him. And you ?

[aksakal]

Quote: Linkor200

But, nevertheless, I cannot understand why you want "the USA and others ... to whine plaintively." What did they / the States / do wrong to you personally?

- Battleship, leave, or do you seriously intend to be a lawyer for amers? We have unpaid bills to amers, and according to your Zionist principle, we will present them with interest. The counter is ticking. They destroyed the USSR, they arranged a "sweet" life for us on the verge of starvation in the 90s, simultaneously plundering the country, they wrought lawlessness in third countries, eliminating the remnants of Soviet influence there. Why do you only insist on "personally"? An interesting question ... Ok, if some bad Arab arranges a terrorist act in Israel, and it will not "personally" affect you - none of your relatives, etc. will not die, we are waiting for your dances on our website. Or will you insist here that a Jew has the right to express patriotism in relation to his homeland and its interests, and the Russian "Corsair" does not have this right in relation to Russia? Is it too much, Messrs. Jews, are you taking upon yourself here? Obliquely, in the interlinear, you inspire and inspire everything: "you Russians have no right to patriotism and if the amers did not PERSONAL Bo-Bo to you, then do not dare to dislike them! And, we, the Jews, have the right to this!" No, good sir, you will insist on such double standards, and we will prepare an account for you, it will not seem a little Good advice - we will deal with amers ourselves, do not meddle.

Quote: Linkor200

After all, it's not a secret for anyone that Soviet / Russian / avionics electronics have always been of lower quality than Western ones. And therefore I am afraid that no "Pugachev's cobra" will save the plane from the stinging swarm of missiles with impressive intelligence. Look, Corsair. There is absolutely no malice or scoffing in me. And I like "Sukhoi - 35" - a really beautiful and decent car

- this is your stereotype of an amateur, with the advent of the SU-35 a thing of the past. Russia already On the T-50 in general, the plane can go back without a pilot - which of your "vaunted" has such an intelligence? It's not about UAVs. Yes, amers have mastered 20 nm, and Russia has only mastered technologies at 90 nm, BUT for the military industry this is enough at this stage to do "Soviet / Russian / avionics-electronics" fit on board and no worse than amerskih. Russian missiles (from the Tactical Missile Armaments company) are not worse than your AIM and others.

[shasherin_pavel]

I would like to add that the tube equipment on the MiG - 25 amazed the Japanese and "amers" when it surpassed their electronic equipment in some respects, including reliability.

[shasherin_pavel]

"Aircobra" so it would be more correct was not adopted by the allied armies and did not fight on the Western Front ... Too many flaws were found during the tests, and the most important, a flat spin, into which it entered as soon as the ammunition was spent, and it was only good at altitudes above 4 meters, and below it was likened to the "MiG" on which Pokryshkin began to fight, and if you carefully read his memoirs, you will see that "I-000s" were massively used in "close" battles, and the "MiG" -and were used as scouts, who were supposed to fly above 16. Pokryshkin was lucky that by the time of the adoption of the Aircobr, our command had already learned not to use Azrobras at low altitudes, like the MiGs, which were withdrawn from the front-line aviation in Air defense of Moscow. This can be confirmed by the memoirs of our pilots that the pilots of the Moscow air defense in 4 could even choose which named aircraft to fly today: "I will not fly" For Stalin "his chassis is junk, I will fly" For VKPb ", but for the second departure "For Moscow" will be prepared, its engine is economical, the range is greater. " Quote from the book. But it must be said in favor of foreign aircraft that representatives of the factories often visited our squadrons flying on "Aircobras", and everything that the pilots complained about was quickly corrected and the next batches of aircraft came taking into account these complaints and constructively new ones. But the very lack of "altitude" of the "Aircobr" remained until the end of the war, only on the "Supercobras" the fuselage was lengthened, changing the centering and moving the "focal point" back, but at the same time the aircraft became more inertial and, albeit slightly, but less maneuverable. Pokryshkin himself refused to board the Yak-000 at the request of Yakovlev, appreciating well the maneuverability of the aircraft, but criticized the armament: "With this kind of armament, I need to enter the Junkers two or three times, and I use the Ercobra in one run. collapse "and chose" La-42 ", and then" La-3 "with three 5-mm cannons. And one cannon on the La-7 was equal in mass of shells per minute to the second on the Focke-Wulf-20. In order for the Aircobra to be equal to the Messerschmitt-5 in battle, its engines were burned in 2-190 battles on afterburner. But it was foreign aircraft that taught our pilots the cleanliness of aircraft operation, when laboratories appeared at the airfields for the purification of oils and gasoline after "Soviet transportation" from bases to airfields. Perhaps it is necessary to add from modern history: our Mi-109s are officially recognized by UN helicopters, it may be less comfortable than foreigners, but unlike foreign ones, who after a day of flights for two days on preventive maintenance, ours can fly for weeks in Asian countries the mechanics of the Mi-2 know only the necks of the fuel tanks and the filter hatches. When foreign aircraft entered the countries of the former Warsaw Pact, BAO was amazed at how much "tenderness" should be shown to this technique, in contrast to the Soviet MiGs, which were stored on the street under a tarpaulin.

[Linkor200]

The Corsair - Dear "Corsair". I understand that hot pirate blood is wandering in you. But, nevertheless, I cannot understand why you want "the USA and others ... to whine plaintively." What did they / the States / do wrong to you personally? Well, let's suppose that there was something bad between you and the States that you, personally, can oppose in opposition to 10 / ten / nuclear aircraft carrier groups, as well as numerous base aviation, numbering thousands, mind you, operational combat aircraft. Perhaps the aerodynamics and energy capabilities of the F-14, F-18, F-16 and F-15 will be slightly lower than those of the last "Sushka", but after all, the 21st century is in the courtyard, and it is now in a struggle / or in a kind of competition / they take not only by the throat - then by the power of the engine, but also by the intellect - by avionics, electronics, rational control of weapons. And here, I'm afraid, a really decent and cool plane - the 35th "Drying", will yield to the competitors I have listed. After all, it's not a secret for anyone that Soviet / Russian / avionics electronics have always been of lower quality than Western ones. And therefore I am afraid that no "Pugachev's cobra" will save the plane from the stinging swarm of missiles with impressive intelligence. Look, Corsair. There is absolutely no malice or scoffing in me. And I like the "Sukhoi - 35" - a really beautiful and decent car. I just tried, as best I could, to objectively assess the situation. And the last thing. Would the famous Pokryshkin, who fought almost the entire war in the Aircobra, would have agreed with your statements. I think he respected allies in the common fight against a REALLY dangerous and cruel enemy. And the plane did not disappoint him. And you ?

[pavelk]

Repeat yourself. Senility?

Your reasoning is nothing more than a theory. The fact that the aircraft will produce and buy.
The latest updates to the F-14, F-18, F-16 and F-15 are made by anyone from Africa for parts from the parts of Ishail. Of course I understand your painful reaction to such news. Capitalism, you know.

[Genady1976]

lucky same comrades again all + snapped up

[klimpopov]

Well, that’s not the point. Well, believe me not for the sake of +. He shared with the people!

[experienced]

Quote: Genady1976

lucky same comrades again all + snapped up

Behind this in an arithmetic school
Klim these + to a damn until the rank of Generalissimo did not enter, but to me ... Honestly do not care ...

[klimpopov]

Or the director of the universe suits me better)))

[experienced]

Quote: klimpopov

Or the director of the universe suits me better))

Laughing Universe and no less

[Genady1976]

yes it's me joking

[klimpopov]

Well, finally, they decided to flood
Okay - I went home. See you tomorrow!

[Ustian]

Quote: klimpopov

2: 25 is fantastic !!!

Beautiful Predator !!!

[sergmoryak]

SUPER!!!!!!!!

[Old_kapitan]

2: 25 is fantastic !!!

1: 16 doesn't look bad either.

[Semen Semyonitch]

klimpopov SU Today, 10:50 AM

And at 2:05 some interesting corkscrew ???

[Scoun]

here is this video from the discovery
Discovery admitted that ours is better than a raptor for a long time already surprisingly and even they said that the plane violates all laws of gravity))

from the 4th minute song !!!!

[DmitryK]

here the pilot is certainly fantastic

[GSH-18]

Quote: Scoun

here is this video from the discovery
Discovery admitted that ours is better than a raptor for a long time already surprisingly and even they said that the plane violates all laws of gravity))

from the 4th minute song !!!!

The main thing! - The Su-37 pilot invited foreign colleagues to conduct a training aerial battle. WISHING NOT FOUND! That says it all.

[TekhnarMAF]

Thanks Klim for the video! And indeed- FANTASY!
I envy the "flyers" with white envy - this is the flight of ikar! Like a fish in water!

[sashka]

Yeah. Kills a tear at a time. Americans are doing what they can in the air, but what we want ..

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Sasha

Americans are doing what they can in the air, but what we want ..

Unfortunately, Americans are not going to fight in close combat

[alexng]

Quote: Pilat2009

Unfortunately, Americans are not going to fight in close combat

Well, that's their problem. They were not going to fight in close combat even in Vietnam. Does everyone know the result? They won't get away from close combat. It was beautiful on paper, but they forgot about the ravines. Moreover, they just cannot take into account the fact that Russians in extreme and difficult situations can find solutions that others would never think of. And in connection with the modern development of electronic warfare, close combat is not avoided. "Libya" for them will never be.

[shasherin_pavel]

As soon as he sees the MiG in the tail he will immediately say: "Tuki-tuki, I'm in the house! Don't shoot at me!" In Vietnam, both sides relied on missiles, but then both there and there they put cannons on the fighters. Or do "amers" no longer put guns on planes, or do they have guns firing at 20 km? But the fact that our aircraft can use information from one ground or air locator and hit up to 20 targets. Just think, the American computer shows the radar radiation from the front, and the missiles get in the tail, and the missile goes according to the radar data, which irradiates from the front and therefore is invisible to the "amer" even during the attack.

[raliv]

Beauties. This is the most real WOW !!!!!

[dmit-xnumx]

Thank you - Delight !! ("There is still gunpowder in the flasks"!)

[timurpl]

... revised 10 times (2.25) ... "LORD OF THE SKY" - you can't say better!
-A couple of years ago, by chance I was in Germany on a "flygtak" - this is such an airshow with model aircraft ... So I saw with my own eyes that among several dozen aircraft models in terms of flight characteristics there were no equal to our "Yak" am ... What they did, beyond words!
- The forgotten feeling of pride for the Motherland since the time of the Union was bursting with my chest. I screamed and cried at the same time ... We have been missing this feeling for the last 20 years!
- I really, really want this "BEAUTY" to be far from "The Last Swallow" ...

[Flanker66]

I have no words! Something unimaginable !!!

[nycsson]

Quote: seasoned

Yesterday in the news on ORT showed a flight .... FANTASY !!!!!!!!!

And therefore it needs to be sold for a hillock? The plane is good! It would be classified, but they should arm the Air Force units, but as always, we’ll arm the others first, and we will fly to the Su-24!

[experienced]

Quote: nycsson

And therefore it needs to be sold for a hillock? The plane is good!

They are stating the market, I think that they are purposefully promoting it, it is mainly exported for export. We are waiting for ourselves PAK FA. IMHO

Quote: nycsson

It would be classified, but they should arm the Air Force units, but as always, we’ll arm the others first, and we will fly in the Su-24!

PAK FA is a secret and it pleases. The rest will see Although I am aggressively against the supply of SU-35 to China

[vostok1982]

And why? A Chinese engine like this will not be mastered for another 20-30 years, and they already have a glider.

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

It’s Stalin’s dropping everything into the HOUSE, dragging it to his MOTHERLAND! And at THESE, where is the house? The Jewish Zionists have a house in Israel, Sasch, the British, and the minions? Where they will run when OURS come to power, then we'll see!

[shasherin_pavel]

Sasha: I'm sorry, but you don't know the story well. I-16, I-15, T-26, BT-5, were delivered to China, Spain, Mongolia and single copies, for familiarization, to different countries. But we also bought engines, which then fought on the Yaks, Lavochkins, IL-4. Only Am-34 and others is our invention, and some know-how of Am-34 switched to foreign engines from Mikulin.

[Semen Semyonitch]

experienced RU Today, 11:02 ↑
Quote: nycsson
And therefore it needs to be sold for a hillock? The plane is good!

They are stating the market, I think that they are purposefully promoting it, it is mainly exported for export. We are waiting for ourselves PAK FA. IMHO hi

Well, yes, of course. Now the T-50 will fill up right now, so there will not be enough space for the Su-35))) Until we wait for the T-50, the 35th would be useful.

[poquello]

"Well, yes, of course. Now the T-50 will be overwhelmed, so there won't be enough space for the Su-35))) Until we wait for the T-50, the 35th would come in handy."

Didn’t you read it or doesn’t it happen much?

"By the end of 2015, the Russian army will have 48 such aircraft. Ten are already in service."

[Flanker66]

Like 96 SU-35 until the 20th year they contracted.

[nycsson]

Quote: seasoned

They are stating the market, I think that they are purposefully promoting it, it is mainly exported for export. We are waiting for ourselves PAK FA. IMHO

Let them beat the Su-27 market ....... The thing is that we have Sukhoi on its own, and statehood itself .......

Quote: seasoned

PAK FA is a secret and it pleases.

But haven't India been leaked to him? Or am I confusing something ?!

Quote: seasoned

Although I am aggressively against the supply of SU-35 to China

I am categorically against such a policy. Need to sell obsolete weapons and military equipment.

[Constantine]

Let them beat the Su-27 market ....... The thing is that we have Sukhoi on its own, and statehood itself .......

To pillar the market, you need a competitive product that, in the case of aviation, will not lose its relevance for at least 10-15 years. Competitors also do not stand still, and the Su-35 is a deep modernization of the Su-27, and the export, in turn, is not quite the same in terms of configuration that is delivered to our Air Force. I agree with experienced by all 100%. The army should be armed ahead of the curve, with the most advanced models, and not overtake the rest by purchasing equipment at a level lower than we can afford. If you are developing a T-50, which is superior to the Su-35, then the emphasis should be placed on it, as the peak model of equipment of this class.

But haven't India been leaked to him? Or am I confusing something ?!

What do you think is a drain? India collaborated with the Russian Federation in this project, which it continues to do, but if it does, this does not mean that India is admitted to all production technologies. For the most part, for India this is an opportunity to gain some experience + get a top fighter in service at a time when all the other powers that this kind of aircraft buy will graze on more backward, technologically advanced models, such as a generation 4 and its derivatives, not 5.

I am categorically against such a policy. Need to sell obsolete weapons and military equipment.

The Chinese are not full downs. Copying is put on stream, which is visible without the naked eye. Somewhere they even said that they, hypothetically, can reproduce gliders from photographs. Visually, they will copy the plane. Another thing in the filling. With her, yes, only under a license and not the most top-end. Although, again, they try to reproduce the engines for Sushki, they still cannot reproduce them, and therefore they want to buy them from us. So with the supply of some nodes, it is not a fact that they will be able to copy them while the technology is still at its peak, and has not already entered a new phase.

[Revolver]

Quote: Constantine

Somewhere they even said that they, hypothetically, can reproduce gliders from photographs. Visually, they will copy the plane. Another thing in the filling.

The contours will copy. But the main thing is power elements and materials. Without them, it will turn out like that phone of Hottabych - pure gold, but it does not perform functions. And this is just a glider, not to mention the stuffing. But if, as another article says, they are going to be sold to the Chinese, then yes, they will completely rip off and say that they themselves designed, they say, the laws of physics are the same for everyone. And what a shame, put on the stream soon. While in Komsomolsk collect 48 pieces, the Chinese rivet a hundred or two.
When Huawei tore off the Cisco router, I don’t remember which model, they only pinned their emblem, and everything else, including bugs in the software, was torn one by one.

[shasherin_pavel]

You can remove the dimensions from the engine or parts from it, but ... After the collapse of the design bureau for the "Buran" project and the death of technologists and designers, the technological processes of "Buran" are forever lost for us - a quote from the film about "Buran". We cannot restore the technology of the metal that was used to build the Kommuna ship for lifting sunken submarines in 1908. The entire filling of the ship has changed more than once, and the hull is not worn out and no one can figure out this secret - the technology is lost. The Nazis, having received the RS-82 in 41, could not recreate the powder bombs for the rocket engine, and their missiles were worse than ours in range. Knowing this, Stalin sold the RS-82 and the technology for their production to the Allies, but they could not create something like the RS-132, or the RS-300. Although their collection of 8cm missiles was more diverse, especially in aviation.

[rainufa]

Enterprises must work and be loaded, so that later when the funds appear they will release new equipment at these enterprises, but with a much larger volume and an improved model. It’s only necessary to sell wisely and cannot be shared with co-production agreements in other countries only in Russia.

[DEfindER]

Quote: seasoned

They are stating the market, I think that they are purposefully promoting it, it is mainly exported for export. We are waiting for ourselves PAK FA. IMHO

I agree that our Su-35 and T-90MS are exported versions to capture the foreign market. On which it is important that the technique is impressive and looks cool, they won’t buy otherwise, and our 4th generation airplanes and T-90-based tanks are already so debugged that they have no equal in their class, so they need to be sold, t. to. amers are unlikely to sell their raptors, but they have nothing more to put on the market. And for yourself to do the Technique of a new generation, PAK-FA and Armata.

[rainufa]

The Chinese in their style will take apart and ctrl + c, and then ctrl + v, so you need to be careful with them.

[GSH-18]

Quote: seasoned

Although I am aggressively against the supply of SU-35 to China

I am joining. This is the same as building a Chinese aircraft factory, and solemnly presenting technical regulations for the production of Su-35! For the small.

[Evgeniy46]

Quote: nycsson

And therefore it needs to be sold for a hillock? The plane is good! It would be classified, but they should arm the Air Force units, but as always, we’ll arm the others first, and we will fly to the Su-24!

sales after 2015 year. That is, the contract for 48 units will be executed first. for our air force

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

48 pieces, this is chickens to laugh !!! RUSSIA burns with shame from such rulers !!!

[Semen Semyonitch]

Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW

48 pieces, this is chickens to laugh !!! RUSSIA burns with shame from such rulers !!!

48, I think this is the first batch.

[Rustiger]

Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW

48 pieces, this is chickens to laugh!

With such and such a territory, with reserves of resources, with those who want to "scoop up with a spoon", with such a disastrous past over the last 1/4 century. ... ...

[nycsson]

Quote: Eugene46

That is, the contract for 48 units will be executed first. for our air force

It would be 480 pieces, then I would be glad! What is 48 pieces for Russia. That's just funny.

Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW

48 pieces, this is chickens to laugh !!! RUSSIA burns with shame from such rulers !!!

Totally agree with you. Money, that’s the whole thing. Nobody thinks about state security .......

[shasherin_pavel]

Great Britain before the war mastered the Hurricane and Spitfire in industry, but adopted the minimum in service, but sold it abroad, and did not spend money on weapons, but received income. When she fought for the Falklands, most of the squadron consisted of ships built for foreign money at their shipyards, mobilizing them for their own purposes. Smart rulers have weapons at war in neighboring countries, in foreign territories. And why is such an attitude in foreigners? For me it is that Israel, where 40% of the Russian-speaking population, that Syria is our "ally", or Iraq and Iran, are all the same, I want to fight them, let them fight for themselves. The main thing is that their battles do not move to our borders. They are fighting "Civilized": surrounded - surrender, did not bring Orange in jars to dinner - refused to go on the attack, paid more there than here - went over to the other side, and then returned for a higher salary. For them, this is one of the types of earnings and nothing more. After all, the "amers" were not kept in such camps as our soldiers, they even received letters from home through the "red cross". I ask you brothers, do not apply our patriotism to their wars. And remember, it was our "Allies" who sold our equipment to the Amers after the collapse of the USSR. Remember the case when "prototypes" wanted to be tested in their wars, and a few days later she was already in America. For them, war is a business, and ours did the same in Chechnya, for which they "confiscated-appropriated" the money of "Dear Russians" from "Selenga" "Khopra-Invest" "Russian real estate" and seven others, "In the Far East at the bank "Selenga" confiscated three wagons of money "- such a message sounded in Novosti TV. Then our "expensive" government took money from me for a two-room apartment and then offered to return the money for two visits to the Department Store. This is also a modern war for the pockets of business or government.

[Vadivak]

Quote: ...

The design withstands overloads of up to 14,5 units, despite the fact that for a person the limit is ten.

The Soviet tester's name is John Ivanovich Gridunov. He withstood almost 19 units. Extreme extreme - I experienced not only shock overloads (repeatedly), but also many other difficult situations (I spent 13 hours in ice water, testing a special suit, 7 days in a pressure chamber, in a spacesuit with the temperature control system turned off) - the depressurization of the spacecraft cockpit was simulated when flying around the moon , kept up to half an hour in almost a natural vacuum when testing the KKO-5 high-altitude compensating suit). And all this - not even being a full-time tester.

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

These people need to put monuments in their lifetime !!! And not everybody!

[Sinbad]

I fully support!

[shasherin_pavel]

Yaks were designed for 11 units, like La, but there were cases when their structures could not withstand overloads, the coating peeled off, or cracks appeared on the attachment points, but this was found on airfields, the aircraft could not withstand and the pilots brought them to the airfields, because The experience of our pilots, destroying in battle the structure of the aircraft above 11 "ji" in the design parameters of the models were laid steel 12 "ji" and more, although this increases the weight of the airframe.

[Nevsky]

Coming soon VAF, and all of you will spoil the mood. Starting from the fact that this aircraft is slowly being delivered to the Air Force of the Russian Federation, ending with the fact that it is still crude, and in general everything was .... .... flown in the military-industrial complex and in the country. (joke)

[experienced]

Quote: Nevsky

Soon vaf will come, and all of you will be spoiled by mood.

Laurels of Vanga do not give rest? The VAF, in my opinion, reacts very adequately to the news: together with everyone it rejoices in the good and adds positive to its photos and does not really tolerate when instead of news another "hat" from unfortunate pisuns is served (it is difficult to call journalists). So your (joke) is not a joke, but an attempt to provoke a forum member, which looks stupid

[nycsson]

Quote: seasoned

So your (joke) is not a joke, but an attempt to provoke a forum member who looks stupid

I support! WAF deserves respect, in my opinion!

[Avenger711]

Yes, Vaf is still an expert, he knows even what he cannot know about, and which is not in Google. In general, I doubt that he is the one whom he claims to be.

[ziqzaq]

Quote: Nevsky

Waf will come soon

Had to come soon, his comments about the planes are very interesting ......

[klimpopov]

Soon vaf will come, and all of you will be spoiled by mood. Starting from the fact that this aircraft is slowly being delivered to the Air Force of the Russian Federation, ending with the fact that it is still crude, and in general everything was .... .... flown in the military-industrial complex and in the country. (joke)

Molodes! The Order of Petrosyan has earned!
Hold it!
SchA me stumble but as it is!

[nycsson]

Quote: klimpopov

Molodes! I earned the Order of Petrosyan! Hold on! They’re stumbling me but as it is!

Why are you like that? Man is a professional in his field!

[klimpopov]

Yes, I do not mind, "Black Lord of Humor" can not be a layman.

[klimpopov]

"Black Lord of Humor" - I'm talking about Petrosyan
I was misunderstood!))) Apparently too thin !!)) Vaf where are you?

[Avenger711]

Rather, an arrogant dreamer, hoping that he will not be checked.

[nycsson]

Quote: Nevsky

Soon vaf will come, and all of you will be spoiled by mood.

A competent person in the field of aircraft construction!

[Avenger711]

Yeah, I’ve swept it next to TsAGI. Such people are just inclined to consider themselves professionals.

[TSOOBER]

Aya-ay! How ugly! VAF specialist what to look for! But at the expense of you a big question - to you

[YARY]

Oh, let's sell Yars and Boreas together with S-35? Damn the profit - it will be! Yes, and the Kremlin with the cathedrals for rent can be rented under the Geyropeysky carnival!

[stroporez]

I won’t be surprised if it will be so ............

[Orel]

More to these for our Air Force

[Blackgrifon]

Still in the troops they were in sufficient numbers and not after 30 years, but after 2-4 years :( one weather machine will not.

[Quiet]

Yesterday in the news on ORT showed a flight .... FANTASY !!!!!!!!!

Funny French in another !!! While he was flying, characteristics were shot for his detection with locators !!!

[Avenger711]

And the aircraft on combat duty will not fall under the radar? Well, it's funny. The signatures of all production cars have long been known. Perhaps there is even a F-22, but still bombers collided with him in the sky.

[Quiet]

If it rushes low and fast .....

[Interface]

And all this business will fly to China. Wonderful plane with us. Was with us.

[GSH-18]

Quote: seasoned

Yesterday in the news on ORT showed a flight .... FANTASY !!!!!!!!!
Thanks to the creators of the car and the pilot, this is a song !!! Some emotions, let techies talk about TTX

That's right. And the entire text of the article, word for word reporting from Le Bourget. This type, for those who did not understand the first time ??
Su-35 aircraft is really not ordinary. There is something to be proud of. It does not fit into the concept of the 5th generation, but with such performance characteristics, as you can see, it is not much inferior to it. A deep bow to the Sukhov engineers, as well as competent managers and directors of aircraft factories that produce these wonderful planes!

[Ivan Kalinovich]

in general, this is the SU-37!
or am I not understanding something?

[Praetorian]

And already abroad? To China and some sort of NATO country for study?

[Uncle]

Bogdan for many years and health.

[Avenger711]

The good news is that, like in the 30s, the test pilot is again a celebrity.

[sys-1985]

Oh, and handsome, live to see him.

[Manager]

Quote: sys-1985

Oh, and handsome, live to see him.

Max 2013 will give you this opportunity. Every year in the suburbs.

[Mhpv]

only on odd years they conduct MAKS, that is, once every two years!
This year will pass.

[Check]

I think on Max this summer you can see, and on the T50 too))

[Mhpv]

The 50 was also shown on MAX 2011, but the flight was about a minute, therefore, nothing special was shown on it.
And so the sensations are awesome when it goes to the fast and the furious already everything rumbles inside you or these disruptions of the air flow, in general, it’s worth looking.
Americans like ours do not fly, they do everything according to the pattern for 2-3 seconds and the next figure, and ours fly from the heart and how they "want" (I mean they spin the plane as they please, because it allows it), the French also fly elegantly.
In general, there is the opportunity to go to the MAX.

[rolik]

Quote: sys-1985

Oh, and handsome, live to see him.

At MAX, in August, they will show.

[GSH-18]

Quote: rolik

At MAX, in August, they will show.

With pleasure I also looked at the T-50! Generally awesome bird!

[Rustam]

It's nice to see this handsome man and our other cars - and the vedeo is good (usually I don’t say so, but I liked it) I would still sign the contracts


live? so in August there will be MAX-2013 there and see him, I’m waiting for it

[Evgeniy46]

Su-35-2 on MAX-2011. my photo. So on MAX-2013 we will see a production car

[radio operator]

And this is the 901 board. They are tested in pairs.

[ImPerts]

Pancake, pancakes. Already 10 in service. 48 contract. It would be nicer to hear about 144 before 2015. But still nice)))

[Russ69]

Quote: ImPerts

Pancake, pancakes. Already 10 in service. 48 contract. It would be nicer to hear about 144 before 2015. But still nice)))

It would be nice, only 144 industry will not pull.
In general, in each district, a regiment of Su-35, at least necessary.

[Avenger711]

This is 2160 cars in 90 districts. Do not pull.

[Beck]

Positive emotions. Emotions are very good. They support health. But one must also see objectivity behind emotions. Otherwise, deep stress can be obtained.

I join in the positive feedback on the Su-35, it is the best fighter in Russia today. But we must not forget that the Su-35 is not a newly created aircraft, but a deep modernization of the Su-27 that has been flying for many years. Originally "thirty-fifth" and was called Su-27BM. BM is an abbreviation for Big Modernization. That is, modern equipment was crammed into an old plane. And it is not known how much it exceeds world standards.

In addition, fanfares are appropriate when the aircraft is adopted by the Air Force. Now in service 12 Su-35 aircraft. The author of the article assumes that by 2015 there will be 48, according to other sources, there are only 15. According to other sources, power is gained by any combat aircraft not at exhibitions, but when it is massively located in combat units.

[GP]

Su-27 itself is a world standard. Or what are the world standards in aviation, write to us, dark?

[Beck]

Quote: GP

Su-27 itself is a world standard. Or what are the world standards in aviation, write to us, dark?

And what are you calling yourself dark? Dark to sites like a light bulb to the blind.
In addition to Su and MiGs, world standards include F-15, and F-16, and F-22, and F-35, and Rafaeli, and Tornado, and Typhoons.

Just do not need to modernize the old Su-27 as a new aircraft. The new plane is Pak-fa.

[GP]

Quote: Beck

And what are you calling yourself dark? Dark to sites like a light bulb to the blind.
In addition to Su and MiGs, world standards include F-15, and F-16, and F-22, and F-35, and Rafaeli, and Tornado, and Typhoons.

Just do not need to modernize the old Su-27 as a new aircraft. The new plane is Pak-fa.

Yes, I don’t mind joking with myself, and in aviation I’m not an expert at all .
f-ki 15 and 16, Rafali, Tornado and Typhoons - this is the same generation as the SU 27, MiG 29 and the only thing that is done with them, they modernize and proudly pass them off as a new aircraft. New at the moment are f22 and work on f35 and PAK FA, i.e. a new standard for military aviation. And it is not known how long they will go on sale on the arms market. The previous generation remains "new", there are simply no others on the market.

[Odysseus]

Quote: Beck

In addition, fanfares are appropriate when the aircraft is adopted by the Air Force. Now in service 12 Su-35 aircraft.

There are 10 planes, in formation 0, they are in Glitsa. And it was called Su-27M. The name Su-35 is already a purely advertising joke.

[Tersky]

Quote: ImPerts

Pancake, pancakes. Already 10 in service

Fritters, (PACK FA), baked ... so far and pancakes for the highest grade. !!!!

[pa_nik]

"The Su-35 was the first to test the thrust vector. This is the only machine in the world that can make a pancake - a 360-degree turn in the horizontal plane without losing speed."

What would you like!? Aerobatics! And this is OUR !!! to spite all enemies ..

[Avenger711]

Yes, yes, and other engines do not have a thrust vector. The correspondent just didn’t spit on all these your planes.

Su-30MKI has a controlled thrust vector. There was not one experimental one yet.

[orff]

This is the only machine in the world that can make a “pancake” - a 360-degree turn in the horizontal plane without loss of speed.

is no longer the only one! recently everyone saw a "pancake" performed by PAK FA

[Scoun]

Quote: orff

is no longer the only one! recently everyone saw a "pancake" performed by PAK FA

just PAK FA is not yet serial and not in service. but after the latest information about the T-50th .. I don’t know .. before goosebumps the desire to see him in all its glory.

[valeriymotors]

This once again proves to everyone that Russian military equipment is the best in the world !!!!

[Praetorian]

What proves? What did the pilot, who tested over fifty aircraft, did on the Su-35 "pancake"? What's the use of this pancake? This pilot, apparently, will do it on the "cornfield. It seems to me that we need to proceed from the capabilities of an average pilot, not an ace. And there it is important to fly closer unnoticed, to shoot on the second run or to the base, here it is from the results of" bullets "=). I could be wrong. IMHO.

[Evgeny_Lev]

Is everything bad again? Didn’t please?
Here you are, what a pity. Well, what else can you do to make your person happy?

I think it is necessary to close the project Su 35, prosralipolymers (((

LOL

Comrade, you are mistaken.

[Praetorian]

Well, I'm wrong, so wrong. I wrote that my opinion. And my dissatisfaction is caused by nothing more than the fact that this machine will fly to other countries, and not to our air force - 50 pieces to our country? Pffff ...

[Avenger711]

It will not fly anywhere until the release is established, at a much higher pace, and orders for its own from export in this case will depend weakly. 48 cars until 2015 a normal contract, even in Soviet times.

[Old_kapitan]

And there it is important to fly up closer unnoticed, to fire on the second run or to the base, here it is from the results of "bullets" =).

Comrade, over-agility still did not interfere with any aircraft. And if the plane allows THIS pilot to twist such figures, then the average for anything, but it will be worth it.
Threat. Guys, I'm happy for you, proud and a little envy. For the good.

[Corsair]

Quote: Praetorian

It seems to me that we need to proceed from the capabilities of the average pilot, not the ace.

From whom, in your opinion, these same ACCs grow? From yesterday's, "yellow-throated" graduates of schools ...
And for the growth of the pilot elementary need plaque, knowledge and desire to learn from. Of course, not everyone will become assami (talent is a difficult business), but to be " at the level"maybe everyone ...

[GP]

It is also worth adding that one such Ass is capable of training two or three dozen yesterday's "yellow-eyed" school graduates by personal example, experience ... And the Swifts and the Knights and not only they, by analogy, will be engaged in preparation. An imposing and formidable force will be drawn.

[Avenger711]

Not in aviation, there are expelled from schools a lot of those who are physically unable to pilot a fighter.

[Semen Semyonitch]

Quote: Praetorian

What proves? What did the pilot, who tested over fifty aircraft, did on the Su-35 "pancake"? What's the use of this pancake? This pilot, apparently, will do it on the "cornfield. It seems to me that we need to proceed from the capabilities of an average pilot, not an ace. And there it is important to fly closer unnoticed, to shoot on the second run or to the base, here it is from the results of" bullets "=). I could be wrong. IMHO.

I also wanted to know about it. Our gliders have always been famous, but how are things with weapons and avionics?

[Old_kapitan]

Yes, with weapons before it was not bad, but with avionics:

"At the Le Bourget air show, Russia presented a new navigation system. The navigation system installed on board the Su-35S fighter is capable of operating in conditions when satellite signals are not available and at the same time the accuracy of determining coordinates is doubled compared to previous developments. Details are given by the official website. "Russian Technologies".

The new system, designated BINS-SP2, is based on a combination of a satellite receiver and laser gyroscopes. When satellite signals are unavailable, the aircraft uses gyroscopes: the principle of inertial navigation has been known for a long time, but the developers managed to achieve a previously inaccessible combination of cost and accuracy.

According to a statement from Russian Technologies, developed by specialists from the Moscow Institute of Electromechanics and Automatics (IIEA) and the Ramensky Instrument-Making Plant, the complex costs 40% less than its foreign counterparts, while the accuracy is twice that of previous inertial navigation systems. In addition, the engineers managed to achieve a resource of about 10 thousand hours, which also almost twice exceeds foreign analogues.

The SINS-SP2 system is declared as universal and designed for use not only on military, but also on civil aircraft, as well as on board sea and ground vehicles. In addition to three laser gyroscopes, the navigation complex uses three quartz axlerometers. Laser gyroscopes determine the rotation of the rotating flywheel due to the laser beam passing through the gyroscope (see the Sagnac effect), and quartz accelerometers record the acceleration due to the vibrations of the quartz crystal on a special suspension that arise. "

http://warfiles.ru/show-33019-v-le-burzhe-rossiya-pokazala-novuyu-sistemu-naviga
cii.html

[Airman]

Quote: valeriymotors

This once again proves to everyone that Russian military equipment is the best in the world !!!!

Say thank you that we still live in Soviet reserves, for a long time enough. R&D was long in the pen, therefore, something revolutionary new will not appear soon. The same PAK FA began in Soviet times.
And the onboard radar can track the target as much as 80 km, detect 400. RIDICULOUS !!!

[Army1]

Still interesting f 35 will not hit him before, well, except for jokes, who will press the button first?

[Old_kapitan]

Still interesting f 35 will not hit him before, well, except for jokes, who will press the button first?

Well, considering that the F-35 hasn't really learned how to fly yet, and the first test rocket launches were made a few days ago ...

[Constantine]

Are you kidding me? )))

[Flanker66]

Tell me, do you know how radars differ from OLS?

[bremest]

My congratulations to all the Russians and the Sukhoi Design Bureau. On the 100th anniversary of the Air Force, I also watched the flight of the SU-35 and also could not believe my eyes. We have a lot to be proud of!

[Starover_Z]

Rosoboronexport expects to begin deliveries abroad.

Are Serdyukov’s followers still in place?
What, not enough models are older for sale,
novye abroad, and let them fly on UT-2?
When will the sale of the Motherland finally stop
Wholesale and retail due to momentary benefits ?!

[Trapperxnumx]

No one needs junk. Everyone who needed it was already sold. And about the new technology, the truth is that it is twofold. Factories also live as needed, and exports are very well suited for these purposes.

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

And what, the Air Force factory for planes nevermind in your pocket? I think they pay what they cost !!! And they cost a lot, I think ... but for such a machine it’s not a pity !!! 2000 pieces on the Air Force, it would be nice !!!!

[GP]

Quote: Starover_Z

Are Serdyukov’s followers still in place?
What, not enough models are older for sale,
novye abroad, and let them fly on UT-2?
When will the sale of the Motherland finally stop
Wholesale and retail due to momentary benefits ?!

Always and at all times, successful states have sought to have the glory of the best gunsmiths and sold abroad. The USSR regained the positions it had lost in the Republic of Ingushetia on the arms market. What is new today will become obsolete tomorrow. We need to sell now, but so that they do not copy, and if they do, so that it would be worse than our products. Sshatovites their f22 and f35 have already taken orders from Japan, Australia, Canada and others. Something they sided with the argument of "selling homeland", and old stuff is given, but only under the terms of modernization.

[fisherman]

This is a very very good plane. When our pilot also controls it, he can do anything.

[ed65b]

Yesterday I watched as PAK-FA flies. All the same, a beautiful, strong car turned out. I would like to see MIG. Somehow they fell out of space. Are there any developments, what the company does, what plans. Very interesting.

[Apollo]

Su Xnumx is the best of the best



SU 35 vs F22

[avant-garde]

Quote: ed65b

Yesterday I watched as PAK-FA flies.

Participated in Max 2011, watched live as these birds fly, I’ll tell you it’s very impressive

[klimpopov]

They are alive! And there is news!

http://www.belvpo.com/ru/26003.html

[SPIRITofFREEDOM]

And let the amers rub their f-35
And this despite the fact that we had 20 years of stagnation and underfunding !!!
I can imagine that right now, our troops would fly if the Union didn’t break up
maybe round UFOs in kind)

[bap063]

It's only the beginning!
Our president knows what he is doing.
Everything for the Motherland and its people (even personal life on the side)

[Black Colonel]

I believed that all modern fighters have all-turning keels. This is not the case on this "drying".
And the video shows that the car is "on YOU" with all the laws of aerodynamics. Beauty!!!

[pensioner]

Yes, along the way, the laws of aerodynamics get stuck from him ...

[Kair501]

Yes, not everyone has just a pak-fa, like keels are all-turning, NATO and the USA have more than one keel, all-wheel keels even on fu 35 and f 22, as far as I know

[Evgeniy46]

still on the Tu-160 the upper part of the keel is all-turning

[GSH-18]

Quote: Kair501

NATO and the United States are not on the same machine, all-turning keels even on fu 35

On f-22, cyclic-rotary, if not mistaken ..
But the T-50, it's generally just a break in the head!

[Flanker66]

All-turning keels are used only on the Tu-160 and PAK-FA. On the Raptor, no ...

[Flanker66]

This is a merit of UVT, not keels! Keels are useless at zero speeds ...

[PARTISAN]

UFO - with the Russian flag on board!

[uhu189]

All this is great, that there are such machines, but in order to use the full potential of the equipment, well-trained pilots are needed. But you won’t prepare a pilot for a year or two, and when you look back and understand how much time you have incompetently missed, it becomes very sad ...

[pensioner]

Yes, it's okay. With thoughts gathered ...

[sashka]

Until the end of 2015, 48 such aircraft will be in service with the Russian army. Ten are already in service. Rosoboronexport expects to begin deliveries abroad.

Like we already have in bulk .. There is nowhere to go, so we drive for export. Well, which side of human stupidity to hide? The eternal Russian Question arises .. Who is to blame and what to do .. Are there already built enterprises that stamp these machines like "pies"? Well, "guarantor" and "part-time Supreme Commander-in-Chief." He may be smart, but he is being bullied. Well, he trusts the Prime Minister ..
"Cover" is a term from Agriculture .. Well, they tolerantly "cover" each other ...

[Evgeny_Lev]

But when will you all be satisfied, then?

Whatever you do, everything is bad for you.
Probably you are the winner of "The smartest" show with Tina Kandalaki as the host.
I’ll tell you a secret, the name of the program has nothing to do with the meaning of the phrase.

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

It’s bad that they’re already going to drive for the cardon, not having satiated their army !!! Or for them their own, where they are going to sell, your mother ..

[Reserve buildbat]

It looks beautiful on the screen.
But live just shocking. I went to the MAX-2011 - seen enough. Now I'm getting ready to leave for the MAX-2013. I am preparing equipment for filming

[pensioner]

Hello Ivan! Talk about max! I want it too !!

[Reserve buildbat]

Hi Yuri! What is there to say? You have to go there!

[avant-garde]

Quote: Stroibat stock

But live just shocking. I went to MAX 2011

Yes, I agree with you 100500%, even the access system of this event cannot overshadow his flights

[Reserve buildbat]

B..g with a throughput system. It is absolutely ineffective. But the question of toilets there is a nightmare!

[Mhpv]

There and Ka 52 did a good job of making peruets, the same to envy.

[hellriker]

It's just beyond fantasy! ) It is interesting to the pilot very shitty? - overloads are serious.

[B_KypTke]

The pilot is assisted by an overload compensation suit.

[huginn]

Yes, it remained somewhere in the 60-70s.
Современный

[sergo0000]

Quote: Hellriker

It's just beyond fantasy! ) It is interesting to the pilot very shitty? - overloads are serious.

I think it’s serious. So the pilots are special people!

[Vtel]

Now we can cut our pancakes, too, the Yankees will try on their vaunted F-35, immediately the pancake will go lumpy. Keep your nose upwind.

[Simon]

Not only the pancake will go lumpy, but it will rise across the throat!

[shtirlits]

Who would be surprised ... Good bird !!!

[Scandinavian]

Now, over aerobatics will remain to show on the main show and begin to contract with us. And we are raising the defense industry plus and the country's image once again.

[Kair501]

Pancake OUR CONSTRUCTORS HOW ALWAYS MAKED THE BIGGEST CARS IN THE WORLD (PAK-FA SU 35 C) SORRY THESE A LITTLE WILL BE DELIVERED TO THE TRAIN ASAP AND THINK ABOUT ALWAYS STARTING ONLY. SEE MORE OR LESS IN DISTANCE?

[sashka]

On one sixth of the Earth, 48 Cars .. Wouldn’t be dishonored ... Until the age of 15 .. It’s necessary to shoot such a high-level military aviation, but He will boast. An accomplice in one word ..

[Evgeny_Lev]

Comrade, do not be nervous and do not blaspheme those who, on duty, have a bulletproof newspaper. Number of fleet of Russia. Secret information. It seems that satisfying your aspirations about the real number of Russian arms is in last place among those who are responsible for this.
Do not measure according to the Pinsky faces, those lovers say about the hundreds of miles of super-cyborgs, we have a slightly different approach to this.

[Airman]

Quote: Sasha

On one sixth of the Earth, 48 Cars .. Wouldn’t be dishonored ... Until the age of 15 .. It’s necessary to shoot such a high-level military aviation, but He will boast. An accomplice in one word ..

But in a few years the Chinese will have several hundred "clones", we will arm them on our heads. And when the T-50 will appear, it is still unknown, only 4 cars began to be tested.

[nycsson]

Quote: Povshnik

But in a few years the Chinese will have several hundred "clones", we will arm them on our heads.

That's for sure! They sleep and see how to chop off Siberia and the Far East!

[Oleg14774]

Quote: Sasha

On one sixth of the Earth, 48 Cars .. Wouldn’t be dishonored ... Until the age of 15 .. It’s necessary to shoot such a high-level military aviation, but He will boast. An accomplice in one word ..

Shame is the hunchback with Yeltsin and our KGB who ... went through all this. And these are laborers, and given how much Lockheed gets and plus the collapse, there’s nothing to be ashamed of, at least not for you to judge for sure!

[a.hamster55]

I want, I want more! Please do not jinx - the device is good!

[olviko]

Quote: SPIRITofFREEDOM

And let the amers rub their f-35
And this despite the fact that we had 20 years of stagnation and underfunding !!!
I can imagine that right now, our troops would fly if the Union didn’t break up
maybe round UFOs in kind)

The more I think about it, the more I want to strangle Hunchback with my own hands.

[Sinbad]

Everyone wants to! And not only strangling, too easy.

[sashka]

Quote: olviko

The more I think about it, the more I want to strangle Hunchback with my own hands.

Get in line .. You're not the first. )))

[Good fellow]

Good afternoon!
This is a delight! What lines, bends, shapes .... this is a miracle of aerodynamics! The most beautiful plane!
It is a pity that we have few of them so far, a pity of course, but you can immediately see in it the Russian .... Nashen, our mentality, spirit and will to freedom! I would have given them names to everyone, as is customary in Russia in Russia. Brilliant glider design !!! Guys! Who knows?! What engines stand on it?

[RDS-1]

Quote: Good fellow

Guys! Who knows?! What engines stand on it?

Google AL-41F1S:

An aircraft turbojet bypass engine with an afterburner and a controlled thrust vector (UHT) of generation 4 ++, created by NPO Saturn by order of Sukhoi OKB for the Su-35S fighter, is one of the variants of the Product 117 engine.

The AL-41F1S engines differ from the AL-31F (Su-27) in increased thrust (14500 kgf vs. 12500), longer overhaul life (4000 hours versus 1000), reduced fuel consumption, controlled by the thrust vector, and also allow the aircraft to develop supersonic speed without use of afterburner, which is one of the basic requirements for a fifth generation fighter. The engine differs from AL-41F1 (PAK FA) in the use of the old electromechanical control system and traction reduced by 500 kgf.

[a.hamster55]

The suit certainly helps, but to customize it is tired. So that such overloads are current for testers.

[bulvas]

Such would be a couple of thousand in the ranks and pilots, respectively, to prepare - as if no one would ever snoop

[Evgeniy8104]

People who know how things are with Miga.

[Airman]

Quote: Evgeniy8104

People who know how things are with Miga.

At the end of May, they demonstrated the MIG-35, they promise to take it into service.

[nycsson]

Quote: Povshnik

At the end of May, they demonstrated the MIG-35, they promise to take it into service.

They say that they are not doing very well! Someone is lobbying for the dry ones, but they forgot about the instant! The USSR did not allow such a thing.

[Airman]

Quote: nycsson

Quote: Povshnik

At the end of May, they demonstrated the MIG-35, they promise to take it into service.

They say that they are not doing very well! Someone is lobbying for the dry ones, but they forgot about the instant! The USSR did not allow such a thing.

Yes, the Poghosyans - father and son - are Armenians, and they don't give a damn about the interests of Russia, they have a thirst for profit in their eyes, the main thing in their business (the menagers) is "green".

[sashka]

Quote: Povshnik

At the end of May, they demonstrated the MIG-35, they promise to take it into service.

The word promise immediately catches up with depression .. Already from three boxes promised ...

[zennon]

Quote: Evgeniy8104

People who know how things are with Miga.

Check out ...
http://aviaforum.ru/showthread.php?t=31023

[Simple]

Photos from the fiftieth international aerospace show in Le Bourget:

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Le%20Bourget%202013

[pakfa-t-50]

"This is the world's most powerful fourth-generation fighter." Yes it is, but not 4 but 4 ++. We need to build more of these birds

[shamil]

for those who don’t like selling su35. There are probably export options, a little different for themselves. And the pancakes on them are not when foreigners do not

[Praetorian]

Probably have or have? But this is not the essence of the issue, most likely such modifications are present. Just the fact of the sale, as it is written in the article, upsets the latest Russian fighter. Even in a truncated version. Although it is clear that the factories need some kind of spinning, since our Moscow Region doesn’t buy a damn.

[shamil]

well, instant 17 horseradish sales yes instant 29 is not worth a damn

[PSih2097]

Quote: shamil

well, instant 17 horseradish sales yes instant 29 is not worth a damn

So the MiG 35 is a deep modernization of the MiG 29, like the Su 35 - Su 27 ... and why did you get that the MiG 29 is not worth a damn, a normal front-line fighter, with a lot of groundwork for modernization.

[Russ69]

48 pieces by 2015 is already good, I hope it will be continued for another 96 by 2020. Then it will be remarkably simple.

[igor12]

1 kg of force per 1 kg of weight is weightlessness!

[shamil]

also a physicist to me

[Venguard]

it's just an incredible plane ... my skin goosebumps went when he did it at 2:25

[skifo]

In moments when you see such domestic equipment, pride appears for your country! But! You can’t stop there, it should be like this: we are showing the SU-35, and we ourselves have at least the next generation to test!

[Navuxonastupil]

Flanker is such a little animal that prefers to eat Raptor ...

[evil hamster]

The news report delivered incredibly.
1. 01.10 "the structure can withstand up to 14 overload units, and only 10 people, that is, the cockpit protects the pilot" - Everything is perfect here rejoice brothers in Russia invented and introduced into the production of anti-gravity - a stormy and threefold cheers.
2. 01.52 "says that the engine is special here for one kilogram of thrust 1 kilogram of weight" wow, and the engine is of the first generation, and the authorities are hiding, all the polymers have gone through .... There is a suspicion that Bogdan spoke for the thrust-weight ratio of the aircraft in general, but journalists are such journalists!

[master_rem]

Quote: orff

This is the only machine in the world that can make a “pancake” - a 360-degree turn in the horizontal plane without loss of speed.

is no longer the only one! recently everyone saw a "pancake" performed by PAK FA

and where to look? missed something ..

[Nitup]

Perhaps these frames were meant:

[psdf]

And even more joy will be when at one point on 1m they inform that 100 PACK FAs are already in service in the army.

[Bashkaus]

Guys, seriously, after 26 seconds the video almost burst into tears, few people understand, but we stepped into a new era of air evolution.

[mabuta]

So not only planes fly, helicopters not everyone can. And this is not on native engines.

[shpuntik]

A wonderful plane. Thank God that we still have bright heads to construct this.
Still to make a rocket to it - VV. (Air-Washington)))

[GSH-18]

Quote: shpuntik

Still to make a rocket to it - VV. (Air-Washington)))

Spakuha! There, the ammunition is as brain-bearing as the plane itself! T-50 really burns

[bomg.77]

It turns out everything is not so bad!

[My address]

Auto industry give aircraft manufacturers. Machines will be beautiful externally and internally.

[Egen]

"It's not a fighter, it's just a UFO!"
We also have a UFO! But SU-35 is all better :)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljLfGiqiOsA&feature=player_detailpage

[cartridge]

Until the end of 2015, 48 such aircraft will be in service with the Russian army. Ten are already in service.

Great post. The material is a definite plus!

[Simon]

It seems that Christian Kunovsky was not crying out of delight, but out of envy. They will not be able to create such machines for a long time.

[Semen Semyonitch]

... something incredible! - says engineer Christian Kunovski. - It's not a fighter, it's just a UFO! To be honest, for the first time in my life I cried with delight! "
Is it really that good? So are F-22s and F-35s worse? I would like to hear the opinion of a specialist ...

[Corsair]

"This is not a plane, it's just a UFO": the Russian Su-35 fighter shocked Le Bourget

The 50th anniversary international aerospace show opens at Le Bourget. The exhibition will run all week. More than 1,500 companies will present their latest developments, including 46 Russian. The loudest domestic premieres are the Su-35-C fighter, the Yak-130 aircraft and the Ka-52 combat helicopter.

More briefly:Russian week .

[Kovrovsky]

Fear the adversaries!

[soldier's grandson]

the first buyers will be aliens and no one else

[zennon]

Quote: soldier's grandson

the first buyers will be aliens and no one else

Well, if the officials are aliens, then yes...

[Sinbad]

I watched a video of how it flies. I forgot to breathe with delight - delight and pride! I would like to train more pilots in the Air Force.

[Bort radist]

There are not enough epithets for this plane, it doesn’t fly but tears apart space.......... “Pancake” didn’t lead to these thoughts. Nesterov's Loop, Konstanin Artseulov - "Russian corkscrew", "Bell", "Pugachev's Cobra", "Frolov's Chakra", ......... ! Experts in aerial pirouettes - foreign pilots - have they invented anything worthy, or are the most difficult ones, like in artistic gymnastics, named after us?

[Rezun]

This is not a wonderful plane... These are normal people who invent, build, fly... raise children, pay taxes... believe in their country... Congratulations to you all!

[Timburton]

What's worse than the Su30MK? It has been sold abroad for more than 10 years - India, Algeria, Malaysia. The Su-35 is promoted by Pogosyan, who favors the Komsomol aircraft plant more, and the Su30MK is manufactured at the Irkutsk aircraft plant, which was patronized by its former director Fedorov.

[Windbreak]

For that matter, the Su-30 is also made at the Komsomol aircraft plant

[akm8226]

There are simply no words...tears in my eyes...I understand that pilot who cried when he saw Sushka's flight...bravo, fellow engineers and workers!
Bravo!
Bravo!

[viktoxz]

people you have not heard that the entire database of Internet users has been leaked to the network with open access! There is all the information from personal photos and videos to personal correspondence and copies of documents. There you can of course delete your data if you do not want everyone to see them. Here is the link- http://addr.pk/a619a

[Genady1976]

Quote: viktoxz

People, haven’t you heard that the entire Internet user base has been leaked into a network with open access! There is all the information there, from personal photos and videos to personal correspondence and copies of documents. Of course, you can delete your data there if you don’t want everyone to see it.

So that's great for some reason I didn’t find myself

[Genady1976]

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[Victor 2/XNUMX/XNUMX]

“44 countries show samples of civilian and military equipment” - I wonder if Ukraine showed something?

[Genady1976]

In particular, the Antonov State Enterprise at Le Bourget 2013 will present modern dynamic programs of the An-148, An-158 and An-178 regional passenger aircraft, as well as the modernized An-70 medium transport aircraft.
Ukraine will be represented at the salon by several stands in pavilions No. 1 and No. 5

RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20130617/943724323.html#ixzz2WU9ZVvAa

РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20130617/943724323.html#ixzz2WU9CP9S5

[mabuta]

Yes, the flight of the AN-70 is also worth watching. And we can say about it: heavy planes don’t fly like that.

[BARKAS]

In Le Bourget, the Ka-52 was banned from taking off; Eurocopters took off in its place, they are afraid of competition!

[Genady1976]

Those @#$& are so bad

[Andrey K.]

They rive together 3 pieces and immediately send them to China. They will make 1000 of them and let them iron the remains of our aircraft.

[Genady1976]

Well, you are a joker Andrey K.

[Andrey K.]

But it's true. Our best developments are in Israel, China, and the USA. All money is in the USA. Betrayal is our national trait. Yugoslavia, Chechnya, Libya, etc. and so on. Moscow is no longer a Russian city at all. As our friends, the Anglo-Saxons, say, six hundred thousand Wahhabis are already in Moscow. We pay tribute to Chechnya. I can write a lot, but I’m just tired.....

[Constantine]

It wouldn’t hurt to learn the “materiel parts”, for starters. Chechnya, for example, returns the money with interest due to the fact that Rosneft grazes in the Chechen fields - the state. a company that pays the local branch only for work, and sells oil and related resources through itself. Calculations have been made and the federal budget receives enough taxes from this oil. So no need for cococo.

In terms of money in the USA. The Russian Federation has greatly reduced and continues to reduce the amount of money in the state. state bonds, sliding down several places. The gold is ours, stored in a secure facility in the center of Moscow.

We have a multinational country. There are 15 million people in Moscow and there are quite a few Russians among them. We are one people and our strength lies in unity.

In general, I won’t get into an argument with you, but in general I can say that your judgments about the situation and about the decisions that were made at one time are divorced from the context, smack of ignorance and are more like a relay of liberal tales on the topics “pro%ralipolymers”, “to ruin”, etc.

Well, if you think that betrayal is a national Russian trait, then you have nothing to do here at all, and I suspect that you are not Russian at all, but a Benderite or something like that. You have come to the wrong place with such statements.

[Andrey K.]

Tell that to Budanov. Don't worry about finances. I cut a skiff by definition. This is a candy wrapper of a raw material appendage. As for nationality, I’m Russian, I see you too. Learn to think with your head before it's too late. Don't fall for cheap propaganda. About a united people, you will say this to the Wahhabis when they come to you......

[Constantine]

I can justify my position and support it with evidence. Show me at least one proof of what you are talking about here? ))

PS how much do they pay for a comment these days?

[Horde]

PANCAKE means? Who has such a “rich imagination”? This is the first time I’ve heard about such an aerobatics technique. It should be something more impressive, maybe it’s the FACE of a new plane, the COBRA sounds, and the PANCAKE is a reason to laugh INDEPENDENTLY, what the hell, it’s stupid.

[Genady1976]

Quote: Horde

PANCAKE means? Who has such a “rich imagination”? This is the first time I’ve heard about such an aerobatics technique. It should be something more impressive, maybe it’s the FACE of a new plane, the COBRA sounds, and the PANCAKE is a reason to laugh INDEPENDENTLY, what the hell, it’s stupid.

MILL

[Horde]

Quote: Genady1976

MILL

figured it out myself? already better...

[Genady1976]

How do you see this pancake?

[Horde]

Well, since the plane produces rotation, something like a GATE, KOLOVRAT, VORTEX, BURUN. Like a KAMOVO FUNNEL.

In general, I urge members of the forum to TURN ON YOUR FANTASY, BRAINSTORM AND figure out what to name the new figure and of course get away from the stupid PANCAKE, don’t belittle yourself.

[Genady1976]

If you don’t want to write an article about this, I think people will catch up

[Horde]

Quote: Genady1976

If you don’t want to write an article about this, I think people will catch up

In order to write something serious and not lose face about army fantasies, one would have to collect factual material, but this is almost a historical study, I don’t even know if I can do it.
Although just for fun
Roman sword-GLADIUS
Russian sword-KLADENETS
how similar it is any traditional historian will, of course, say that it was the Russian barbarians who stole this name from the ancient Romans, but in the light of new visions of history, the ancient world in the form that we were taught at school no longer withstands criticism.

[galiullinrasim]

Quote: klimpopov

2: 25 is fantastic !!!

DAS EAST FANTASTISH

[Andrey K.]

This is fantastic!

[Consmo]

We’ll assign Romkin’s flotilla to the hospital ships. If something smells like something fried. Romka is like a sailor.
The Admiralty has already written everything down.

[Fofan]

Quote: Horde

PANCAKE means? Who has such a “rich imagination”? This is the first time I’ve heard about such an aerobatics technique. It should be something more impressive, maybe it’s the FACE of a new plane, the COBRA sounds, and the PANCAKE is a reason to laugh INDEPENDENTLY, what the hell, it’s stupid.

Yeah, but peony, carnation, chrysanthemum, bumblebee (not iPhone), shoes, pinocchio, rook, poplar are also NOT SOLID?

[Horde]

Quote: Fofan

Yeah, but peony, carnation, chrysanthemum, bumblebee (not iPhone), shoes, pinocchio, rook, poplar are also NOT SOLID?

Well, besides perhaps “shoes” - what is it? everything else does not cause rejection in the mind, it would also be called SCHNITZEL or CHOCK .We are not fools, Americans, to spoil OUR ACHIEVEMENT with such a name. For example, MICROSOFT means SMALL AND SOFT - a WORSE fantasy among pin_dos.

[Fofan]

Quote: Horde

Well, besides perhaps “shoes” - what is it? everything else does not cause rejection in the mind; they would also call it SCHNITZEL or CHOCK.

gp-30

[Horde]

Quote: Fofan

gp-30

nda - this is probably IDEOLOGICAL SUBVERSE. Well, at least it’s not a footcloth.

[Bort radist]

The first one went.

Rosoboronexport concluded the first export contract with Iraq for the supply of Ka-52 helicopters. RIA Novosti reports this.

The deal took place on June 17 at the Le Bourget air show in Paris. A source in the Russian delegation clarified that the contract was concluded on the basis of an agreement dated October 2012, which envisaged the purchase by Iraq of weapons and military equipment from the Russian Federation in the amount of $4,3 billion. Thus, after signing the contract at Le Bourget, the agreement came into force.

Earlier on June 17, Rosoboronexport signed a contract for the export of the Mi-28NE Night Hunter helicopter. It was not officially clarified which country and how many helicopters we are talking about. According to some reports, Iraq also ordered 40 “Night Hunters” from Russia. Baghdad initially planned to buy 30 helicopters, but the deal was expanded in May 2013.

The Ka-52 Alligator is an attack combat helicopter, which is an improved version of the Ka-50 Black Shark helicopter. It has been put into operation in Russian aviation since November 2011.

[fzr1000]

For the Russian delegation, the main event was the signing of an agreement between the Ural Civil Aviation Plant (part of the Rostec state corporation) and the Austrian Diamond Aircraft Industries on the production in Russia of a family of light multi-purpose aircraft with a capacity of up to 19 people. The first machine should be put into operation in 2016. Sukhoi Civil Aircraft CJSC and Ilyushin Finance Co. signed an agreement on the basic terms of delivery of 20 SSJ100s. As part of the agreement, Ilyushin Finance Co. will organize leasing financing for 15 aircraft in the basic modification SSJ100/95B for customers from Southeast Asia and the Middle East.

[stranik72]

Everything about it is good, you can and should be happy for our designers, but there is one problem with it: the “brains” in it are not ours (element base with chips), so imagine in battle the enemy just sends an impulse and there are no “brains”, the locator is turned off and some other amazing things, so we will be happy to sell it to everyone who will take it, this is how it is and this will be the case with all even some elements of the nuclear deterrence system, until we have our own elemental base we will take a lot of risks, however, we are already taking risks, for those who are distrustful, so for the correct understanding, when they show us a report on TV from the center of the air defense control center or the Strategic Missile Forces, pay attention that everything is computerized, modern, information panels and much more, but in the Russian Federation they don’t produce anything of their own, so honestly, there’s nothing special to be happy about from the point of view of the country’s defense capability.

[baboon]

bursts me with pride

[gabatikuk]

BEAUTY !!! Thanks to the creators and low bow!

[Prosto vovochka]

Quote: klimpopov

2: 25 is fantastic !!!

I think it's photoshop. We were pretty well taught about aerodynamics at my home flying school. I know classical aerodynamics. Yes, the bulges in the front part of the fuselage may increase some of the maneuverability of this fighter, but not to such an extreme. Moreover, the shooting is not “tied” to anything stationary, and in this case you can move the camera as you please. I am more than sure that he will not show this at MAX. And I will be there this year.

[stranik72]

As for the flight dynamics, you are only partly right; without elements of the automatic control system on the mechanic, he will not do many things, so the automation helps him in some modes to “keep the horizon”. At MAX it may not show this only under one condition, the weather will not be appropriate, well, since you graduated from “flying school”, you understand what we’re talking about.

[Consmo]

There is already a video of flights at the exhibition on YouTube.

[Prosto vovochka]

Okay, we don't have to wait long.

[Hug]

That's it, now we're fine - with this technology we won't be lost. And most importantly, it seems that there are “brains” in the country.

[Thunderbolt]

From Paris with love

[sashka]

Putting an aircraft into production was a “headache” even in Soviet times. Slipways, equipment, tools... Maybe we just want to “undermine” the Chinese economy in this way? Everything is too complicated and not simple. In our workshop there was a (worth?) machine made in 27. And they made the Il-76 and Ruslan.. And Uncle Seryozha made transition hatches for the Buran, by eye. Accurate to the hundredth. Yes, and I made “cokes” for “Antey” in approximately the same way.. Note MANUALLY. Each Machine made an imprint on my ribs..)

[volkodav]

good afternoon! You can see this machine live in Akhtubinsk (whoever served there knows) he also plays tricks that he hasn’t seen here on video. I saw more interesting figures above Akhtubinsk (contract service will broaden your horizons

[volkodav]

But regarding the number of troops, you need to approach it rationally, if you want to fight on the offensive, then yes you need to buy in thousands (but there are cheaper MIG vehicles for this) and as part of an air defense system, such quantities are enough. After all, we also have ground-based systems There is air defense. and our industry won’t be able to handle it, it’s not like riveting thousands of IL2s, composites, electronics, system control units, etc.

[zennon]

Well, now let’s merge his rank...

[Commander]

Quote: klimpopov

2: 25 is fantastic !!!

This is more than fantastic!!!

[Russ69]

According to Shaigu, they plan to purchase Su-35s until 2020, so 1 contract for 48 units is just the beginning. I hope they will order a hundred more, and by 2015 production will be in place.

[sashka]

Quote: Russ69

I hope they will order a hundred more, and by 2015 production will be in place.

Funny . Ha-Ha..Why not two or five? It will be even funnier..Already announced at the highest level .48 (forty-eight) cars until some year. You’ll want to laugh..

[master_rem]

Quote: Nitup

Perhaps these frames were meant:

Valeria Korableva is not bad either!
I think it’s more like a controlled flat corkscrew, the camera filming on the Su, which is also in dynamics

[basil200]

As for the Chinese, they will copy the equipment, make an exact copy. But the material will be different, not the same, and let’s say the same fighter will fly and shoot. But when you try to do the same trick, you fall apart in the air. The same with XINGTAI Xingtai tractors. Copies of Japanese tractors Mitsubishi, Yanmar, Shibaura, Honda, Hinomoto, Suzue, Iseki, Kubota. It looks like the same tractors, an exact copy but slightly different, so they haven’t worked for more than 200 hours. It breaks down, this is where the crap starts, the raw metal bends, the threads break off without effort, the tie rod ends bend when turning. In general, this is a plasticine tractor. I also think that their military equipment is not of the best quality. I wouldn’t be surprised if their armor-piercing projectile hits the T-72’s armor and sticks and doesn’t damage it. I have the same opinion about cars, I’d rather drive a VAZ than their car. Don’t judge strictly, but I personally worked with Chinese tractor equipment with my own hands. I have never seen a higher quality sample.

[PB1995]

"The thrust vector was tested for the first time on the Su-35." - to put it mildly, a lie. There was such an aircraft, the Su-27M, created 25 years before the Su-35. So they installed engines with deflectable thrust vector on it. “This is the only car in the world that can make a “pancake” - a 360-degree turn in a horizontal plane without losing speed.” - Rossiya-1 journalists are again talking nonsense for the sake of a catchphrase. But the MiG-29OVT and Su-30MKI can’t do that?

[Evgeniy667b]

The plane is not bad, but our boasting is, as always, at the highest level. Only in Le Bourget he had nothing to do until his Russian Air Force received sufficient numbers. Already promised to many. Probably the PAK FA had a similar fate. Some people are already itching for potential deals. Traders are unhappy.

[ksan]

Quote: klimpopov

2: 25 is fantastic !!!

I agree THIS IS SUPER! Only plans until 2016, only 48 of these beauties for yourself But they probably promised everyone for the “hillock”. But let their pilots fight with the “old ones”, right? It's sad though

[ksan]

Quote: Evgeniy667b

The plane is not bad, but our boasting is, as always, at the highest level. Only in Le Bourget he had nothing to do until his Russian Air Force received sufficient numbers. Already promised to many. Probably the PAK FA had a similar fate. Some people are already itching for potential deals. Traders are unhappy.

I agree. Before selling left and right, you should have SUFFICIENT quantities for YOURSELF, and you can arm your “potential friends” with “modernized” “old” stocks Maybe this is “racing” http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20130519/938137092.html, it seems that we are trying to sell the best to the whole world, without having it ourselves.

[pvv113]

Quote: Nick

we need to really saturate our Air Force with these machines, and not just demonstrate their capabilities at air shows...

THE MACHINE IS AMAZING, YOU CAN ONLY WAIT FOR SUCH EQUIPMENT TO BE ENTERED INTO THE TROOPS NOT SINGULARLY, BUT MASSIVELY. AND STILL WE ARE THE BEST IN AVIATION!!!

[Osnaz]

My friend worked at Sukhoi’s company until very recently, but recently left. He told me that at one of the last air shows, the pilot performing a demonstration flight on a Su fighter was the ONLY one whom the audience applauded as he headed to the hangar after landing. The comrade said that at that moment he felt a real sense of pride for our people.

[Power]

Is everything for sale? And our Air Force will continue to receive ten aircraft a year, God willing, we will rearm by 2030. What if these airplanes (in the Chinese version) come for our souls? The smart guys who signed contracts hope to sit out on the Cote d'Azur with money in their pockets? Should I visit them at night on the Black Funnel? What do you think?

[colonel manuch]

By 2015, we need not 48 such vehicles, but ten times more + the same number of MiGs, and then we can think about selling them abroad.