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"Dumb" law? Norway puts women at arms

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Recently, in our country, there has been a rather active discussion of the question of how expedient or inappropriate the call-up of those who want (emphasis: willing) young women for military service can be. Quite a few copies were broken on this topic, and the main disputes are around what tasks the recruits can perform in the Russian army, and whether the commanders (men) have experience with managing women's units (well, not taking into account the experience of servicing female "battalions" Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov). And while such disputes are going on in our country, in Norway they decided to go their own way: first the law, and all disputes later.


"Dumb" law? Norway puts women at arms
Norwegian Minister of Defense Anne-Grete Strøm-Eriksen


In this case, we are talking about the fact that the Norwegian Storting (parliament) by a majority vote adopted a law on the obligation of conscription for women. Once again: mandatory! This raises Norway to the absolute first position among all European states, in which henceforth the obligations of both sexes to fulfill their military duty to the fatherland (sorry, which in this case is capitalized) are equalized. The law states that all Norwegian girls who are eligible for military service and who are in draft age will be required to serve exactly 12 months in the ranks of the Norwegian army starting with 2015.

For the final adoption of this legislative provision, the Norwegian parliament will have to hold another vote, but today in this Scandinavian country, few doubt that Norwegian women will go to the army. The parliamentarians have no doubt in the final adoption of this decision, after the Norwegian Minister of Defense Ström-Eriksen stated that the adoption of the law is carried out in historical for norway day. You ask, what does it mean? And that also means that the Minister of Defense of Norway is a woman. In addition, a woman who, as they say, with two legs stands on the fact that the Norwegian draftees replenish the army of the kingdom in the coming years.

Representatives of the majority of Norwegian political parties are in favor of adopting the law. The party of Christian Narodniks (HNPI) became the only political force that came out with a categorical condemnation of the almost already adopted law.

But if in the Norgovian country such an almost unanimity on this issue is demonstrated, then what is the reason? Perhaps the reason for this is that Norway today is a country that is forced to fend off numerous external attacks, and the army, consisting exclusively of male military personnel, has already ceased to be sufficient for this? But this is hardly the case. After all, today Norway, in contrast to, say, Israel, is clearly not conducting frequent military operations against those who encroach on its territorial integrity. Moreover, Norway is in the NATO military bloc, which, by definition, must come to Oslo to help, if they suddenly find themselves in a difficult position connected with external aggression against Norway. And if you add the words of the official representatives of the Norwegian Defense Ministry that the Norwegian army today has no shortage of draftees (only about 8,5 thousand military recruits plus about 6 thousand military men of other status), then the logic is to start the call of Norwegian The army, it would seem, is lost altogether. But…

The answer to the question about logic or its absence is given by all the same Mrs. Ström-Eriksen. She states that with the adoption of the new law, Norway will finally turn into a country in which the principle of sexual equality will be implemented. It seems that the only thing that somehow distinguished a young man from a girl in Scandinavia was conscription for men and the lack of it for women. Now the flag of the Norwegian Gender Equality will begin to proudly fly over this component ...

Sorry generously, but how then to be with famous human rights in “progressive Europe”? After all, there is a violation of the main democratic conquest of the Old World - women, it turns out, no one asked. How would they all be a priori “for” ... So, is it time to put the question squarely at the UN Security Council about the presence of anti-people power in Norway? Enter a no-fly zone? Bombing the residences of Harold V? Had it not been Norway, the “progressive” world would have already found a cause for displeasure ... Your deeds are wonderful, European democracy!

But throwing aside the slag about the democratic perturbations of northern Europe, it is worth considering the situation more soberly. If there are enough men in the army, it seems to be enough, and if nobody (except Breivik) has attacked 70 for years, then really the cause of the female draft is exclusively in equality. Well, just do not have to tell fairy tales! Then it would first have passed a law that obliges to give birth to male Norwegian individuals ... That would be in Norwegian. Tolerant and equal. And then, apparently, the salt is something else ... What is it?

Most likely in the fact that Strøm-Eriksen, and all the others who supported the new law with both hands, understand: Norway is quite a successful cash cow for the whole of Europe from an economic point of view. For the time being, this money is for good money, but everything flows, everything changes ... If something suddenly happens to the price of energy resources, then the EU will be the easiest way to knock them out from Norway under the pretext of a large democratic fraternity. Russia, Iran, Venezuela are troublesome countries in this regard for Europe, and the price of European friendship is well known to the Norwegians, and therefore aware that 8700 recruits today, in fact, are just “ugh” if the country has to face real claims on resources. In this regard, it seems that the decision to enlist women in military service is only the first step. Step by step two is an increase in the number of the entire Norwegian army - as they say, just in case, and cases, as you know, are really all sorts ...

Only here the Norwegian parliamentarians, who are adopting the bill under discussion (five minutes to the law), somewhat forget that today every 13-th subject of the kingdom is a Norwegian naturalized. Moreover, the majority of this number are “Norwegian” from various Muslim countries. And the tendency in addition is that every 13 is today, and with the influx of migrants and the relative ease of receiving citizenship just for Muslim “guests”, by the 2015 year, every 10 is already ... Are these ladies ready to take on weapon in order to defend the interests of their new homeland? If someone is ready, then these women can be called, rather, the exception. Well, obviously not for this purpose tens of thousands of foreigners come to Norway every year (especially women) in order to be in the army of this country and begin to fulfill the military obligations imposed by the law. Protecting Norwegian oil with a weapon in hand for an immigrant from Tunisia who received Norwegian citizenship sounds impressive ...

Or will they call only fair-haired and blue-eyed? .. This is a no less powerful option, which the current and already motley Norwegian society can finally split.

Or will the Norwegian krone help them? But only here, upholding state interests exclusively for banknotes usually does not lead to anything good. There will always be someone who is ready to give more ...

Apparently, it is not for nothing that the Norwegian military expert Frank Brundtland expresses concerns:

The gender issue of military service has no quick fix. This can be called a paradigm shift. We still do not know where this will lead.


Frank is right, right ... The outcome of the "dumb" law is impossible to predict for Norway.
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  1. fenix57
    fenix57 17 June 2013 07: 57 New
    +4
    "... We do not yet know what this will lead to ..."-that's it in our opinion!, everything is right, suddenly something happens, well, at least something. hi
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 17 June 2013 21: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: fenix57
      ..We do not yet know what this will lead to ...

      Just some animals, not soldiers!
  2. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 17 June 2013 08: 11 New
    +9
    But by a strange coincidence, women in Norway (unlike the Norwegian men) do not have a penis. At the legislative level, this shortcoming is also easy to solve by sewing artificial penises to newborn girls. And the Norwegians will be HAPPY!
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 17 June 2013 08: 21 New
      +7
      Norwegian men must be legally obligated to give birth
      1. romanru4
        romanru4 17 June 2013 08: 52 New
        12
        And experience can be very, very instructive for us, but on the other hand. Experiencing the demographic crisis of the titular nation, we cannot legislate to force our women to give birth (we can’t even talk about men). This experience can come in handy here. On the sidelines of the State Duma there is already an idea to call for urgent service of women who have not given birth before 21 years of age. Moreover, it is necessary to call not for staff positions, but in companies and preferably engineer. Gender equality in our country is enshrined in the Constitution, let feminists, child-frushnitsy and other childless women fulfill its fourth article in full!
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 17 June 2013 09: 12 New
          +6
          It is truth too. An interesting social experiment, the result of which is worth paying attention to.

          I like this Norwegian idea more and more.
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 17 June 2013 10: 45 New
            +7
            Quote: Spade
            I like this Norwegian idea more and more.

            "Come on girls! Come on, beauties! A country is already singing about us ..." laughing
            Maybe the Minister so wants to get rid of homosexuals in the army?
            1. Arberes
              Arberes 17 June 2013 14: 15 New
              +7
              Quote: Egoza
              "Come on girls! Come on, beauties! A country is already singing about us ..."

              There is no silver lining. If you have to fight, then we will take prisoner with great pleasure!
              YES MAN?
        2. lesnik340
          lesnik340 17 June 2013 09: 43 New
          +5
          And commanders to put Khakamada and Novodvorskaya.
          1. soaring
            soaring 17 June 2013 11: 04 New
            +7
            Quote: lesnik340
            And commanders to put Khakamada and Novodvorskaya.

            OOOOO ..... Novodvorskaya .... So she is not a woman !!! This is something formless, constantly saying something, it’s jelly in a terrible shell! Introduced her in the commander's breeches .... She neighed God! laughing
        3. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 17 June 2013 10: 38 New
          +4
          only you forget that women may not give birth to children under 21 for various reasons ...
          1. matross
            matross 17 June 2013 13: 56 New
            +5
            Quote: DanaF1
            you forget that women may not give birth to children under 21 for various reasons ...

            Well, in the service, everyone who can will definitely give birth ... You look and the demography will improve. smile Also not the last pros!
        4. Larus
          Larus 17 June 2013 18: 52 New
          +1
          That's just these so-called feminists will not serve, their job is to shout about equality, and when it’s disadvantageous, then include a woman!
          In general, this is an absolutely unnecessary measure for us and there is no need to massively accept women into the army, although there is where you can serve them, but it is voluntary and try to make a purely female team with separate accommodation, although our women will remain in the army as well.
      2. soaring
        soaring 17 June 2013 10: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: Spade
        Norwegian men must be legally obligated to give birth

        So almost all of Europe is gay and lesbian! There are probably men who like to portray women and enjoy when they are used? So let them give birth to C.Z. anus, they are used to getting pleasure, let them know the birth pains !!! lol
    2. soaring
      soaring 17 June 2013 10: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Yoon Clob
      But by a strange coincidence, women in Norway (unlike the Norwegian men) do not have a penis. At the legislative level, this shortcoming is also easy to solve by sewing artificial penises to newborn girls. And the Norwegians will be HAPPY!

      Sorry-PENIS HAPPINESS! It sounds so cool! wink
    3. matross
      matross 17 June 2013 13: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: Yoon Clob
      easy to decide on sewing newborn artificial penises

      And preferably on the forehead! laughing Absurdity so to the end, in Norwegian!
  3. Avenger711
    Avenger711 17 June 2013 08: 22 New
    +3
    If men cannot protect their women, then the whole country has to go to landfill history.
    1. Gato
      Gato 17 June 2013 10: 56 New
      +1
      And they already seem and women will not be able to protect their men laughing
  4. Lopatov
    Lopatov 17 June 2013 08: 26 New
    +4
    Are these ladies ready to take up arms in order to defend the interests of their new homeland? If someone is ready, then these women can be called, rather, an exception. Well, obviously not for that, tens of thousands of foreigners annually come to Norway (especially women) to be in the army of this country and begin to fulfill military obligations laid down by law.

    Maybe this is the main reason for the adoption of this kind of law? Limiting the influx of immigrants. Norwegians, after all, about the strict implementation of the laws hit. There, "mow" does not work
    1. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 17 June 2013 10: 38 New
      +3
      It also seems to me that the point is not oil at all ...
    2. sak1969
      sak1969 17 June 2013 23: 06 New
      0
      Totally agree with you . If you did so, then there is a reason. "The Norwegians, after all, about the rigorous enforcement of the laws struck. There" fail "will not work" . And for black there will be a screen. Apparently a different screen
      you can’t put black for Europe.
      Well, then everything is fair. A fully equal society. Let's see what happens.
  5. lesnik340
    lesnik340 17 June 2013 08: 31 New
    +2
    As I understand it, Norway is in danger, around enemies? Or is she preparing for aggression? Otherwise, why bother with a garden. If it is a matter of equality, then for such a country and a woman, the Minister of Defense is enough. And here's why
    do men give birth to them? It is necessary to correct the adoption of the law, this will be democratic, tolerant.
  6. vlad tankov
    vlad tankov 17 June 2013 08: 41 New
    +3
    We will win with PLEASURE !!!!
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 17 June 2013 09: 09 New
      +3
      Captured only alive! laughing
      1. omsbon
        omsbon 17 June 2013 09: 42 New
        +4
        Quote: vlad tankov
        We will win with PLEASURE !!!!

        Quote: Boris55
        Captured only alive!

        I have a question for you: "Friends, did you see them, these naturalized Norwegians? As you will see, we'll be draping together."
        1. matross
          matross 17 June 2013 14: 04 New
          +1
          Quote: omsbon
          Have you seen them, these naturalized Norwegians? As you will see, we will drape together. "

          What if you open the burqa, and there is a beauty, straight "Playboy" nervously smokes? There is still need to figure it out! love laughing
      2. sak1969
        sak1969 17 June 2013 23: 26 New
        0
        Boris55 The group has Mongol Shuudan instructive song Infect called.
        Prostitute! Her name was Sarah! Hide your money, all for nothing.
        All covered with ticks - scabies! And even vodka will not wash it off.
        Tear your teeth, push the swear word
        You can’t hit, even if you threaten.
        Your mission, Sarah, Sarah Smirnova, do not shoot - infect!
        laughing
  7. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 17 June 2013 08: 48 New
    +9
    For some time now the word Norway makes me sick .....
  8. dark_65
    dark_65 17 June 2013 08: 50 New
    +4
    Krandets Viking, ... passionarity is over.
    1. vlad1
      vlad1 17 June 2013 15: 25 New
      +2
      long and forever
    2. Barabas
      Barabas 17 June 2013 19: 03 New
      +1
      Don’t be afraid for the Vikings. They have one of the highest living standards!
  9. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 17 June 2013 08: 55 New
    +3
    Norway was frightened that the Swedes would not stand against Russia for more than a week and decided to hold out with the help of women for at least two weeks!
    1. lesnik340
      lesnik340 17 June 2013 09: 37 New
      +2
      Do they not know that we are not at war with women?
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 17 June 2013 10: 47 New
      +4
      Quote: Kovrovsky
      decided to hold out for at least two weeks with the help of women!

      Can you handle it in two weeks? repeat
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 17 June 2013 12: 22 New
        +3
        Well ... if with Viagra, then it’s possible for three ...
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 17 June 2013 14: 27 New
          +2
          Neatly. One cute aunt has already accused Gaddafi of the combat use of Viagra.
          1. Colonel
            Colonel 17 June 2013 16: 46 New
            +3
            What is the meaning of the charge? Ammunition insufficient?
  10. cartridge
    cartridge 17 June 2013 09: 19 New
    +7
    by a majority of votes passed the law on compulsory military service for women


    If tomorrow is war, then please call me from the reserve and send me to the Arctic! I want to be where it's hard! laughing
  11. pensioner
    pensioner 17 June 2013 09: 21 New
    +4
    Quote: Kovrovsky
    decided to hold out for at least two weeks with the help of women!


    Thus, they are more likely to receive paratroopers and marines on an ongoing basis.
    1. lesnik340
      lesnik340 17 June 2013 09: 40 New
      +5
      They have their men transferred, they so want to lure strangers.
  12. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 17 June 2013 10: 06 New
    +2
    First, a film about the Russian invasion, now it is because a woman cannot directly tell a peasant so as not to be known as a “girl of easy virtue” ... by me. And since the entire male population of Norway lives in same-sex marriage, the hint is most likely this: if the film is about they need Russian men in the Russian invasion, the Norwegian army will come out against them, probably 99,99% manned by female soldiers, but since everyone knows that Russians do not fight women and children, what else can they do? Understand, Norwegian women cannot they express their desires directly to the entire geyropu, so we have to hint and hint at them. Russian planes invade Sweden and Finland, but Norway doesn’t fall in any way. I’m afraid that our military plane will fall into Norwegian airspace, then all the Norwegian air forces will be sent to catch it with further landing. Well, then it’s clear.
    1. itkul
      itkul 17 June 2013 11: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Standard Oil
      And since the entire male population of Norway lives in same-sex marriage,


      Have you been to Norway, what do you write?

      http://countrymeters.info/ru/Russian_Federation/

      population of Russia

      142 184 157 Current population

      724 Born this year

      1 051 057 Died this year

      174 Net migration this year

      -152 population growth this year

      now look around Norway

      4 956 795 Current population

      24 Born this year

      20 Died This Year

      3 Net migration this year

      7 Population growth this year
      1. zardoz
        zardoz 20 June 2013 05: 41 New
        0
        Firstly - and what?
        Secondly - why can you trust this site?
      2. EdwardTich68
        EdwardTich68 22 July 2013 19: 47 New
        0
        Mostly migrants give birth in Norway; I have been there for work about 50 (fifty) times
  13. Barabas
    Barabas 17 June 2013 10: 16 New
    +3
    laughing in vain! women in the fray, animals still those! especially now they don’t run into the bayonet, everything is automated and computerized, press a button with your finger and somewhere far away, bobo boys!
  14. deman73
    deman73 17 June 2013 10: 47 New
    +2
    Idiocy - that’s how it can be called, and yet another step towards the collapse of the geyropa
  15. Gato
    Gato 17 June 2013 11: 05 New
    +2
    Feminist insanity.
    Oh, they still forgot about the middle floor! It’s not good, they left such a loophole for the Norwegian deviators.
  16. Tao
    Tao 17 June 2013 11: 05 New
    +1
    Did the women want equality? - well, let them get it. (Since equal rights are not only nishtyaki, but also obligations). :)
  17. Valery-SPB
    Valery-SPB 17 June 2013 11: 17 New
    +1
    Quote: DanaF1
    only you forget that women may not give birth to children under 21 for various reasons ...

    I also could not create a child, because I was in military service, I couldn’t run into AWOL and I couldn’t go home on short leave to conceive, however ..., however, as soon as I “demobilized” in 69 and got a job, I was immediately charged a childless tax.
    Stupid laws were and they will be.
    If the reason for not giving birth is physical, then there is nothing to do in the army.
    If you entered to study, then let him study.
    If you are aiming for contract service in the army - go urgent.
    I did not manage to get married before the age of 21 - go to the urgent army.
  18. The gentleman
    The gentleman 17 June 2013 11: 43 New
    +1
    stupidity of course. despite the fact that even if they adopt this law, there will be a huge number of appeals to the ECHR. and let the ECHR not accept from the statements))) in any case, I believe that the draft of this agreement is doomed to failure
  19. fenix57
    fenix57 17 June 2013 13: 06 New
    +8
    Quote: soaring
    Introduced her in the commander's breeches .... She neighed God!

    Well, in riding breeches or without, these things are not known, but ... here it is wassat
    1. Nevsky
      Nevsky 17 June 2013 13: 59 New
      +4
      Quote: fenix57
      Quote: soaring
      Introduced her in the commander's breeches .... She neighed God!

      Well, in riding breeches or without, these things are not known, but ... here it is wassat

      laughing laughing wassat

      I almost poured coffee on the keyboard ....)))) with a laugh !!! laughing
    2. sergey72
      sergey72 17 June 2013 14: 26 New
      +5
      It is necessary to warn! I almost choked!
    3. vlad1
      vlad1 17 June 2013 15: 28 New
      +3
      Good beer set aside
  20. Tourist Breakfast
    Tourist Breakfast 17 June 2013 14: 34 New
    +3
    The army, as you know, is a large melting pot. Since they now have enough migrants there, conscription is the tool that will help “non-titular” youth break out of national ghettos and integrate more quickly into society. Something like this.
  21. fenix57
    fenix57 17 June 2013 14: 48 New
    +6
    Than not "glorious commander." WARNING! fellow wassat
  22. vlad1
    vlad1 17 June 2013 15: 29 New
    +4
    How dare this monster dress the order of the state that it hates on end
  23. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 17 June 2013 16: 10 New
    +1
    In Norway, the Ministry of Defense grandmother? Hmm, see their powerful army.
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 17 June 2013 17: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: Ilya Mikhalych
      In Norway, the Ministry of Defense grandmother?


      This is a Norwegian grandfather of a gay orientation. He put on makeup and entered the image.
    2. Barabas
      Barabas 17 June 2013 19: 01 New
      +4
      but no, they have soldiers, but they don’t swell with hunger, and recruits don’t get sick because of drunken officers!
  24. Bakunin
    Bakunin 17 June 2013 17: 56 New
    +1
    Is there any hazing in the Norwegian army? what and will not Babovism appear now? lol
  25. Mr. Truth
    Mr. Truth 17 June 2013 20: 41 New
    +1
    In Europe, buggers and pedophiles can be protected only by their women. I call them "battle vaginas."
  26. Narrator.tales
    Narrator.tales 17 June 2013 22: 31 New
    0
    “if a man did not find work before 21, then let him pay a big tax” - such a law would be more democratic for girls who had not given birth to 21 in the army. and even better logic would all of you, yes measures.
  27. Pimply
    Pimply 18 June 2013 01: 26 New
    -1
    It's funny No one thought that there is still an alternative service, for example. Here we are just talking about the return by all citizens of the country of civil debt to the state. And, in my opinion - this is more than the right decision.
  28. mithridate
    mithridate 20 June 2013 19: 51 New
    0
    equality should be in everything
  29. Alf
    Alf 22 June 2013 15: 35 New
    0
    Or will they call only fair-haired and blue-eyed? ..
    Do not dare! This is discrimination on the color of hair and eyes! An urgent need to pass a law on the mandatory presence of Norwegian citizens with blue eyes and blond hair. And for those who have a different color, urgently and forcibly change these colors!
  30. Motorist
    Motorist 23 June 2013 15: 05 New
    0
    One thing is good - the blacks and Arabs will learn how to smash the Norwegians even if they start to solicit them.